Brandon Herrera said something to the effect of "Alll the gear doesn't mean anything if you can be defeated by a flight of stairs or your own arteries." At bare minimum we need to maintain basic fitness. Even if you can't afford or don't have access to good tactical courses, just having healthy lungs, heart, and muscles will give you a leg up if shit hits the fan
@@Gchang54 Yes, you must. Wrap it tight pull into your shoulder. Hell, stars only and muscle memory ass in a wet ditch couldn't even see front post, boom, a bit off to the left, second shot didn't miss. Yea, irons, grew up old school. Learn the skill of wrapping it up tight 👍
Never had a training course on shooting outdoors in natural habitat but, fortunate enough to have hunted for 30+ years. Typical hunting grounds were mountains with elevation changes, trails, valleys, creeks, rivets ect.... Definitely a much different perspective than an outdoor range. Have stalked and taken large game at just under 700 yards before. Challenging and exciting.
Was going to say the same thing. Between big game, as well as game birds, climbing up and down hills, narrow trails, if at all, the challenges are more than comparable.
@bladejames8208 Ever hunt Chukkar? Enjoyable, the first time, the rest are for revenge! Rough, usually steeper terrain, no trails, fast flyers and they use the ridge lines to perfection! Definitely a challenge, but yeah, it is fun, hard work.
My training began in the forests, and deserts... Never used an official gun range until basic training. Never shot at a civilian gun range until I was intomy late 30s... You make an interesting observation that I never gave much thought about, but I suppose you have a point. I don't suppose you've done much hunting, but that's okay. We are all constantly learning something new, at least I hope so.
Sorry but nope from years of being a hunting guide and guiding people who've never shot out in the wild like this but have a lot of "range time" under their belts, I can tell you without a doubt that all the indoor training and even outdoor square bay type training in the world will be of little to no help in the wild like that in this video.
I'd love to see more civilian-focused training programs. So many offerings speak mainly to ex-military and similarly skilled folks over the average person who actually needs training in defensive situations. 🤷♀️
The courses from Sheepdog Response might be right up your alley. Protector 1 course provides some basic self defense fighting and pistol shooting, took it awhile back and loved it.
Depending on willingness to travel, I would suggest Achilles Heel Tactical, or Allegiance Defense Solutions. ADS has courses specifically for EDC and civilian self defense. As does Rogue Methods
I use range time to work on trigger, control manipulation and recoil management. Out in natural cover and terrain, I'm working on posture, natural elements (wind, temp etc). The things I work on the range should be second nature when I'm out in "tough terrain." Good content! Keep it coming.
Yeah but train as you fight really only applies to the military. I’ve been an instructor for over 35 years. IMHO, the best prep for a situation like what happened in Maine is IDPA. As long as you recognize the obvious limitations. My IDPA membership # is well under 500. So I’ve been using the sport as a training tool since it began. I don’t care about upping my scores to advance my standings. Any of my fellow SO’s would tell you that the first words out of my mouth after finishing any course of fire is always whether or not I had any “procedural” errors. Did I do anything that would get me killed in a real situation?
@@ExSoldier762 I am an Army Vet myself but Train as you fight gives you better buck. However, wargaming every scenario or have a plan B should alway be first. In Maine will every situation is different so Wargaming is must and always be at the ready.
Exactly why after upland bird hunting (mostly) for decades, I avoid gun ranges. Trekking thru fields/dry washes/brush/trees, following your prey's patterns, hunting with TRUSTED partners, handling safely and really seeing your shot background is SO much more instructive and real than standing shoulder to shoulder putting little holes in paper. Every once in a while, I get talked into range shooting, afterwards, asking myself why. And if it occurs indoors, I feel dumber for even participating. Maybe just me.
All depends on what you do at the range. You can always practice a few long shots to make sure your rifle is still zeroed and if you want test different manufactures or hand loads. Otherwise try up close double taps or make a shooting game with a buddy.
It's like this with any fighting art. Most people have no idea that a good amount of what they learned in a dojo is completely different in the real world. Try doing a breakfall on uneven terrain or wrestle in the mud, fight on a hill or in the snow/water.
I took Bucks 3 day recce rifle course there in that utah location. Not only was it the best rifle course ive taken but Buck is awesome and the property is absolutely beautiful.
8 years infantry and time in combat gives me a little insight in this matter their is multiple things that will cause you to not be accurate under fire. Fatigue, terrain, gear you have on, sunlight, fear, hard to locate enemy, trying to keep cover with out getting shot and thats just some of the things that can cause you too not being accurate
I enjoy the fact that you put it out there that you don't know everything, we all are learning every day and non of us know everything about shooting. Nice to see you learning as will I from this video .
That's why hunting is a great field environment to test your firearms skills. It will teach you how to move through terrain while armed and carrying a pack with your basic daily needs, sometimes in harsh conditions. It was the first time I experienced hiking with a day pack in below freezing conditions then setting up to wait in ambush. I was poorly equipped and miserable the first time. It took a bunch of research and experimenting to figure out what works for me. It shows you how to use concealment and shoot in a field environment. What can you use to support your body or rifle while shooting? What trade-offs do certain terrain features offer between concealment and visibility? How do you move through woods without being heard? Just recently on a spring hunt, I learned how amazing rain is at making your movement through the woods inaudible. Finally, it shows you what kind of terminal ballistics to expect from your preferred ammo. This is the most unique benefit. You don't want to find out that your ammo of choice has awful terminal ballistics when you're calling on it to defend you or your loved-ones' lives. Taking my .300 Blackout (16" bbl launching 110 gr Barnes Tac-Tx or Hornady VMax bullets at 2400 fps) into the deer woods gave me full confidence that those bullets have excellent terminal ballistics driven to that speed at a deer within 100 yards.
That's the beautiful thing about living in Utah, it's easier for us to just head out out in the desert and set up our own shooting scenarios. Everything from close in pistol and carbine to long range rifle. Weather, wind topography are always a variable we have to contend with but I would argue it definitely makes you a better shooter. Also, many of us are also hunters so we're constantly out practicing, scouting and most of all learning.
I hunt elk and deer in Wyoming. 8,000-10,000’ elevation. Everything from desert to high mountain terrain. Between archery and rifle hunting I think I’m covered
Colion, if you like these challenges, here in Texas we have the opportunity to do Run-N-Gun events. These are styled after olympic biathlons. Closed course, typically 10k in distance, 7 to 10 stations, pistol and/or rifle. Expect a high heart rate before starting, very dynamic and unusual, but practical shooting positions and it’s all under a timer. Start with the Waco Tactical Fitness (WTF).
i train 2-4 times a week inside my own home, dry fire drills, speed loads, tac loads all sorts of dry fire drills. the only thing i’m not doing is shooting bullets.
How often, or have I missed any videos showing urban/city environments? I fully realize you can't actually use real bullets, but showing scenarios people may encounter while driving, shopping etc. Situations like the incident that just happened in L.A. where thugs robbed a guy by intentionally causing an accident then robbing him. I'm going to guess more people than not live in urban/suburban areas. Perhaps ways to defend your home, ID weak vulnerable areas & how to secure & defend might be good info to share. Jus' throwin' that out there. Love your info/content, very informative. Thank you for the work you do.
A hell of a lot of people aren't going to be getting into 100 yard "tactical" rifle fights, much less going where such things can happen. Robbery in a parking lot. Carjacking at a traffic light. Jugged coming home from the bank. Moron family members leaving the door unlocked. Pistol time, short range, in an instant. Situational awareness, having your head on a swivel. Trust no strangers, and very few acquaintances.
Yes, shooting outdoors in open terrain is a humiliating experience, especially if you add physical exertion, target acquisition, wind, elevation changes, and sub-optimal lighting conditions into the mix. If it hadn't been for my friends who own large ranches, I probably wouldn't have experienced it first hand.
I heard that so many times stationed at JBLM. The only thing more fun than shooting prone in a mud puddle in the rain...is doing land nav through endless blackberry bushes...in the rain. Haha.
My only advise to people who live in the city and can even just get to the suburbs is there are alot of state parks. Alot of state parks will let you hunt. Even if you are not really in to hunting for the sport of it, it gives you opportunity to not only learn how to shoot outside a range. But also can give you an idea of what gear you have that is actually practical for field use or not. If you have a shitty holster you will find out in the fist couple miles haha.
One thing I enjoy about our local range, they have a pistol range that has a different configuration every week. Upped our moving, targeting and shooting skills.
I've been trained by NBPD in Wisconsin. Then, by Colonel Jeff Cooper at Gunsite. When he was alive many years ago. Shot competition for several years at Rio Salado here in Phoenix. Stopped when the young guys moved faster than this old guy. Now, it's just the range. All that to say this was a good informative video.
Always entertained by guys in tactical gear wearing the baseball cap in travel lock plugging away. I remember the first round that went past my head. Traveled left to right. Hit the berm to my right.
A lot of well-built youtubers practice arm flexing in front of the mirror, just like well-built folks do at home or in the gym. They're well aware of what they're doing.
@ColionNoir another fun outdoor test, look into Run and Guns. Primarily a midwest thing. Imagine a 5k biathlon (pistol/rifle) on trails. And you carry everything with you.
its just like the video Gar'rand thumb put out a couple days agp about evasion unless you actually do it you won't learn it I really wish there were ranges up in the hills where I live, sadly 99.9% of them are set up for people to sit down and are inside.
That's exactly what I want to do. Great training. It was very informative. Next time we could have a watcher to zoom a few targets we would be able to spot how it hits it by the time the bullet reach the object
Hunting teaches these skills too, but some competitive shooting like 3 gun will often have jungle runs where targets are hidden throughout a trail in the woods. Also many of those same clubs offer night shoots on occasion.
I have run a number of similar events at our club complex in So Cal, day and night. We also set up similar COF’s out on BLM areas. A lot of these events are modeled on Gunsite activities. Use of natural features that require the shooter to get into “field” positions is paramount, however we usually allow only two shots per target before moving on. Nearly all have a time limit for each shoot station. This teaches the participants to make shots from difficult positions under time pressure. A lot of the shoot stations require that you find the target first, then engage.
I think simunitions was the best training I had. It really said a lot about oneself and is easily the best to prepare you for force on force. next to that hunting is a great preparation with all the distraction.
My "shooting out in nature" has always been hunting seasons. This past season I was hunting antelope in N.Central Nevada was shooting prone withy daypack as a rest. Jut GETTING to the antelope was the hardest part. Some e-mountain bike riding and mostly hiking to 9,000 feet in steep terrain. BUT... competing in Steel Challenge shoots with my RUGER 9 mm PC chassis carbine DOES prepare me much better for real life situations if only because it makes me VERY familiar with my carbine and sight but also it trains me in fast target acquisition and barricade use.
I must say, you are a pretty damn good shot. To hit those targets, especially at the last one, through the brush on your first shot, is very impressive. I live in the dictatorship of New Jersey, and there is nowhere around here that has a shooting experience quite like that. I belong to Cherry Ridge Range, in Vernon and it's great being outdoors. It's a pretty good setup, but the most you get is about 300 yds.
probably illegal up there, powerline right of ways, even ng lines, helluba walk though you can reach out over half a mile to your target. It's how you can do irons at 1Ky. Maybe now bad thoughts on how to in your brain... blame me
I'm in massachusetts, there's nowhere in the entire state to do this, or anything even remotely close. (Part of why im moving down south next year) You can't actually carry a rifle. Unless you're trying to find the quickest route to prison. (Even if you're licensed)
I wanna take one of bucks courses bad man! I'm active duty and this is right up my ally. Hoping to get some free time soon to jump in a course. Thanks for the video Noir, always appreciate the content. Keep doing what you do bro. Full support bro.
My church is putting together a security team. This is the first thing I told them. The church ground is large enough for air pistols and rifles, witch would be better than no training.
My efforts at the range were to experience and practice in 100° heat and 30° cold plus all the wind that came with those. If the eqpt was finicky or cranky in those conditions then what was to be expected when the real tasks of hunting were at hand? Colion, this video is 'the real life application' every hunter needs to encounter to verify they have the eqpt AND skills for that one big hunt.
I liked this a lot. I learned a lot of this hunting.. but to the folks that have never hunted or did any time in the military, I'm not sure they would think this way.. great video!
it helps for knowing what your carry, but yea you gotta practice in what you wanna be decent at. this includes doing planning around your home in case of intruders
So this is why airsoft can be very useful as well, while the shooting is a little bit different, being shot at is different than shooting targets and in self defense you are likely to need tactical skills to be successful in combat and airsoft or paintball definitely gives you that!
Shooting on a range at paper targets is NOT the same as shooting in real life. However it’s difficult to train like real life. The closest you’re going to get is using sim rounds against real people that shoot back. I got sim training Twice before deploying. It’s still not enough, but definitely better than shooting at a paper target from prescribed distances. Another realistic part of sim rounds training is the adrenaline rush and panic of being shot back at. A “great shooter” can become useless if they can’t deal with the pressure but I’ve also seen an “average shooter” Use the adrenaline and become a great asset for a team.
I’ve hunted in Maine for 38 years and I’m now 50. I was in the Army for 6 years and did better at a pop up range than paper targets. I do go to a range to just hang with friends and associates. Also just to dump some rounds for fun.
Awesome. us country boys been doing stuff like that since we we're kids. Only we're actually shooting our food. Except I mostly used a bolt action riffle.
The sad thought that there doesn't seem to be any sort of course to take to learn how to deal with the city environment. This is totally different from being out in the wilderness, where everything is wide open for endless miles around. A lot of us won't be able to simply bugout, for various reasons. We'll be stuck in the city or suburbs hunkering down, doing whatever is necessary to survive, and that won't come easily.
Fortunately, I'm a member of an outdoor range that isn't as large as in the video, but enough area to shoot and scoot, some animated (spinners, popup) targets, long-range (400,600,800,1000 yards, an urban paintball "tactics" arena.
Colion. If u just shot a few USPSA matches or even 2 gun matches, you’d realize this video was unneeded. U gotta get out there and compete and compete often.
Thank you ( SIR) for showing & Sharing this wonderful real world 🌎 outdoors Range. This would be fun with the M-1 (30 ot 6) caliber. Longer Range Rifles. 😊 Very neat, WIND messing with your shots.
I live in california, so going to my local gun range is already an insane experience. I Would love to actually do a course. We don’t have many options.
A great addition to this video would be if you were filming in an abandoned urban type environment and discerning between cover and concealment. But I appreciate and respect your perspective. Thanks for sharing! 👍🏾
Somethings better then nothing… GO TO A GUN RANGE don’t feel like you have to perform like John wick to do so. Stay ready and you won’t have to get ready.
Uhhh… I know you’ve never seen my private range. It’s like an obstacle course built by nature. Love it. Didn’t love that sapling in the way of the 308, it it’s not in the way anymore. Same with the vines.
Great info ColIon, I was wondering about the sound, as in the Maine bowling alley. Lot of people never heard a live round inside a building unless you have indoor range time. What to do ? do you yell gun ~ drop cover or run ? But first we need sound to ID 5W's and course of action. Those around guns don't duck, but drop,look, then ? draw if EDC is on them. Bowling alleys most, have a XX gun rule. May want to do a vid on weapon sounds,, AK, short gun , glock etc.. just like this outdoor per round sound.. phew phew.. Thx bud
Agreed; punching paper indoors without any impediment makes for good practice and learning, but the REAL DEAL is in the twists and turns nature throws at the shooter, and that is much easier if there is NOBODY with the intentions of shooting back at you with lethality in his/her power. Combat shooting makes for formidable tasks to be performed, so when your life is at stake, the conditions really become challenging exponentially. Thank you for a fine video. Stay well.
Some of us arent like you, we don't have thousands upon thousands of dollars and infinite corporate deals that allow you do "train as you fight". Hell, I can barely afford ammo now let alone a spot at the range which isn't saying much. Must be nice man, must be real nice.
You sound like you're too busy hating and crying to look for solutions. If you live somewhere that has Bureau of Land Management federal lands, you can shoot outdoors for free. You can hunt on public land (wildlife management areas) for a small fee. You can afford ammo if prioritize making regular, small purchases. Over time, you will have a nice little stockpile; but if you don't train, stockpiling ammo is kind of silly. There are numerous videos on RUclips about drills you can perform with just 50 rounds. Where there's a will, there's a way. Being jealous or envious of someone else and making excuses won't help anything.
I wonder how much range training there will be when the gas costs $20 a gallon and there are no bullets for sale to the public? 3 months and counting down…
Go down the sling rabbit hole and look at lunar concepts slings. Being a bit wider and sslightly padded where u need it, and they make a metric ton of difference when your working your ars up down and your walking running with it. Nice quick toggle and all that. Im telling ya youll be pissed you didnt
This where i think hunters have distinct advantage over most other shooters, we have to take what we get for shots based on where the animal is and where we are, there are really no easy shot in thw wild.
For a homebody (for the most part), this was an excellent video for me. Lot's of things to consider for sure. Would love to know what ammo you used and what you zeroed in at. You were going after some long range targets!
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Unfortunately, I live in a city and have to train at a gun range as folks hate it when I go out in the street and shoot at stuff.
I was considering moving to the south side of Chicago… you know for training purposes….
Move to Chicago
Don't underestimate airsoft for a training aid when you can't shoot real steel
My gut reaction was, "move to Chicago", and then I saw the replies...
Gentlemen, we meet again
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Brandon Herrera said something to the effect of "Alll the gear doesn't mean anything if you can be defeated by a flight of stairs or your own arteries." At bare minimum we need to maintain basic fitness. Even if you can't afford or don't have access to good tactical courses, just having healthy lungs, heart, and muscles will give you a leg up if shit hits the fan
Amen brother! Ever since the birth of my son. I’ve been working on staying healthy and basic at home training. A lil goes the long way.
That is right good physical condition is a must
Garand Thumb said: "If you are not fit, you're gonna die. Get out there and train.", which is very true for any shtf situations.
Great point. When I did basic training at Ft. Jackson, SC, the slogan was "Fit to fight". Physical fitness is very important.
@@ddw76yoh you were at relaxin Jackson ? Lmfaooooo
This is why *using a sling as support* is such an invaluable skill for a Rifleman. It's not just for carrying your rifle around...
Agreed! Bc of that, training with the sling is super important.
I must learn this skill
@@Gchang54 Yes, you must. Wrap it tight pull into your shoulder. Hell, stars only and muscle memory ass in a wet ditch couldn't even see front post, boom, a bit off to the left, second shot didn't miss. Yea, irons, grew up old school. Learn the skill of wrapping it up tight 👍
YES Rap that sling, auto thinking point on set up for shots.😊😊😊
Off hand shots at deer during gun season can’t say I haven’t used it when a deer pops out while your entering exiting your hunting spot…….
Never had a training course on shooting outdoors in natural habitat but, fortunate enough to have hunted for 30+ years. Typical hunting grounds were mountains with elevation changes, trails, valleys, creeks, rivets ect.... Definitely a much different perspective than an outdoor range. Have stalked and taken large game at just under 700 yards before. Challenging and exciting.
Was going to say the same thing. Between big game, as well as game birds, climbing up and down hills, narrow trails, if at all, the challenges are more than comparable.
@pwd1679 same, exactly what I meant. You as a hunter also understand. The greater the challenge, the more enjoyable it seems to be.
@bladejames8208 Ever hunt Chukkar? Enjoyable, the first time, the rest are for revenge! Rough, usually steeper terrain, no trails, fast flyers and they use the ridge lines to perfection! Definitely a challenge, but yeah, it is fun, hard work.
@pwd1679 no I have not. I will have to look it up and look into it. Sounds like a challenge and good fun.
@bladejames8208 very challenging and demanding hike. And tasty bird.
My training began in the forests, and deserts... Never used an official gun range until basic training. Never shot at a civilian gun range until I was intomy late 30s... You make an interesting observation that I never gave much thought about, but I suppose you have a point. I don't suppose you've done much hunting, but that's okay. We are all constantly learning something new, at least I hope so.
I think someone who shoots at a typical indoor range would excel on an outdoor one like this, versus a shooter who doesn’t practice period.
Spot on. Little is better than nothing!
Sorry but nope from years of being a hunting guide and guiding people who've never shot out in the wild like this but have a lot of "range time" under their belts, I can tell you without a doubt that all the indoor training and even outdoor square bay type training in the world will be of little to no help in the wild like that in this video.
Preach brother. Train in the situations you are most likely to need to defend yourself.
and how do you suggest people do that?
go out in the street shooting at targets??
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@@ronaldwoofer5024 Nope, enlist in the military as an infantryman. It's better than LARPing, and genuinely...(wait for it)..."TACTICAL"
@@dashcammer4322I understand what you’re saying. But that’s hard for a 9-5 guy in his 30s with a family at home.
@@oldmanjenkins771 or a 55 yr old man
@cchgn
It's even worse for a 75 year old guy. Heck, at my age I'm barely functional, let alone tactical.
I'd love to see more civilian-focused training programs. So many offerings speak mainly to ex-military and similarly skilled folks over the average person who actually needs training in defensive situations. 🤷♀️
The courses from Sheepdog Response might be right up your alley. Protector 1 course provides some basic self defense fighting and pistol shooting, took it awhile back and loved it.
Depending on willingness to travel, I would suggest Achilles Heel Tactical, or Allegiance Defense Solutions. ADS has courses specifically for EDC and civilian self defense. As does Rogue Methods
@@CavemanActual11 thanks, I’ll def a take look at those
No civilians are cowards who aren’t man enough to make a difference
I use range time to work on trigger, control manipulation and recoil management. Out in natural cover and terrain, I'm working on posture, natural elements (wind, temp etc). The things I work on the range should be second nature when I'm out in "tough terrain." Good content! Keep it coming.
The range gives you perspective of range, target acquisition, and confidence in your platform.
12:02 right😊 12:02
I always say train as you fight and with terrain and elements. This will give you realistic scenario.
Yeah but train as you fight really only applies to the military.
I’ve been an instructor for over 35 years. IMHO, the best prep for a situation like what happened in Maine is IDPA. As long as you recognize the obvious limitations. My IDPA membership # is well under 500. So I’ve been using the sport as a training tool since it began. I don’t care about upping my scores to advance my standings. Any of my fellow SO’s would tell you that the first words out of my mouth after finishing any course of fire is always whether or not I had any “procedural” errors. Did I do anything that would get me killed in a real situation?
@@ExSoldier762 I am an Army Vet myself but Train as you fight gives you better buck. However, wargaming every scenario or have a plan B should alway be first. In Maine will every situation is different so Wargaming is must and always be at the ready.
Exactly why after upland bird hunting (mostly) for decades, I avoid gun ranges. Trekking thru fields/dry washes/brush/trees, following your prey's patterns, hunting with TRUSTED partners, handling safely and really seeing your shot background is SO much more instructive and real than standing shoulder to shoulder putting little holes in paper. Every once in a while, I get talked into range shooting, afterwards, asking myself why. And if it occurs indoors, I feel dumber for even participating. Maybe just me.
All depends on what you do at the range. You can always practice a few long shots to make sure your rifle is still zeroed and if you want test different manufactures or hand loads. Otherwise try up close double taps or make a shooting game with a buddy.
100% correct!! I try to think of unique shooting situations. Huge balloons spread out 90 degrees or moving target hanging from drone.
This video reminds me of how out of shape I am and I need to workout MORE and practice more. Reality over range is the perfect example!
It's like this with any fighting art. Most people have no idea that a good amount of what they learned in a dojo is completely different in the real world. Try doing a breakfall on uneven terrain or wrestle in the mud, fight on a hill or in the snow/water.
I took Bucks 3 day recce rifle course there in that utah location. Not only was it the best rifle course ive taken but Buck is awesome and the property is absolutely beautiful.
8 years infantry and time in combat gives me a little insight in this matter their is multiple things that will cause you to not be accurate under fire. Fatigue, terrain, gear you have on, sunlight, fear, hard to locate enemy, trying to keep cover with out getting shot and thats just some of the things that can cause you too not being accurate
I enjoy the fact that you put it out there that you don't know everything, we all are learning every day and non of us know everything about shooting. Nice to see you learning as will I from this video .
most youtubers push me to buy an accessory or product, not you ! always inspiring me to train and take classes, love the content as always !
That's why hunting is a great field environment to test your firearms skills. It will teach you how to move through terrain while armed and carrying a pack with your basic daily needs, sometimes in harsh conditions. It was the first time I experienced hiking with a day pack in below freezing conditions then setting up to wait in ambush. I was poorly equipped and miserable the first time. It took a bunch of research and experimenting to figure out what works for me.
It shows you how to use concealment and shoot in a field environment. What can you use to support your body or rifle while shooting? What trade-offs do certain terrain features offer between concealment and visibility? How do you move through woods without being heard? Just recently on a spring hunt, I learned how amazing rain is at making your movement through the woods inaudible.
Finally, it shows you what kind of terminal ballistics to expect from your preferred ammo. This is the most unique benefit. You don't want to find out that your ammo of choice has awful terminal ballistics when you're calling on it to defend you or your loved-ones' lives. Taking my .300 Blackout (16" bbl launching 110 gr Barnes Tac-Tx or Hornady VMax bullets at 2400 fps) into the deer woods gave me full confidence that those bullets have excellent terminal ballistics driven to that speed at a deer within 100 yards.
Training in the Southside of Chicago on a weekend at night will give you all the real training you will need. 👍
That's the beautiful thing about living in Utah, it's easier for us to just head out out in the desert and set up our own shooting scenarios. Everything from close in pistol and carbine to long range rifle. Weather, wind topography are always a variable we have to contend with but I would argue it definitely makes you a better shooter. Also, many of us are also hunters so we're constantly out practicing, scouting and most of all learning.
Gotta love Utah
I hunt elk and deer in Wyoming. 8,000-10,000’ elevation. Everything from desert to high mountain terrain. Between archery and rifle hunting I think I’m covered
Colion, if you like these challenges, here in Texas we have the opportunity to do Run-N-Gun events. These are styled after olympic biathlons. Closed course, typically 10k in distance, 7 to 10 stations, pistol and/or rifle. Expect a high heart rate before starting, very dynamic and unusual, but practical shooting positions and it’s all under a timer. Start with the Waco Tactical Fitness (WTF).
Old Eighteen Defense, in Central Texas, has some damn good matches as well.
Years ago my grandpa taught me this same kind of concept in the woods with a .22 ruger.
i train 2-4 times a week inside my own home, dry fire drills, speed loads, tac loads all sorts of dry fire drills. the only thing i’m not doing is shooting bullets.
How often, or have I missed any videos showing urban/city environments? I fully realize you can't actually use real bullets, but showing scenarios people may encounter while driving, shopping etc. Situations like the incident that just happened in L.A. where thugs robbed a guy by intentionally causing an accident then robbing him. I'm going to guess more people than not live in urban/suburban areas. Perhaps ways to defend your home, ID weak vulnerable areas & how to secure & defend might be good info to share. Jus' throwin' that out there. Love your info/content, very informative. Thank you for the work you do.
A hell of a lot of people aren't going to be getting into 100 yard "tactical" rifle fights, much less going where such things can happen. Robbery in a parking lot. Carjacking at a traffic light. Jugged coming home from the bank. Moron family members leaving the door unlocked. Pistol time, short range, in an instant. Situational awareness, having your head on a swivel. Trust no strangers, and very few acquaintances.
Mad respect for that last target hitting with a single round. Not so easy. Great video and info too. Thank you!
Whole different game in the elements. Add in elements in hunting like minimal time and elevated heart rates, another level of difficulty.
Yes, shooting outdoors in open terrain is a humiliating experience, especially if you add physical exertion, target acquisition, wind, elevation changes, and sub-optimal lighting conditions into the mix. If it hadn't been for my friends who own large ranches, I probably wouldn't have experienced it first hand.
Wow! Best game of golf ever!
If it ain't raining, we ain't training. -Uncle Sam
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I heard that so many times stationed at JBLM. The only thing more fun than shooting prone in a mud puddle in the rain...is doing land nav through endless blackberry bushes...in the rain. Haha.
My only advise to people who live in the city and can even just get to the suburbs is there are alot of state parks. Alot of state parks will let you hunt. Even if you are not really in to hunting for the sport of it, it gives you opportunity to not only learn how to shoot outside a range. But also can give you an idea of what gear you have that is actually practical for field use or not. If you have a shitty holster you will find out in the fist couple miles haha.
One thing I enjoy about our local range, they have a pistol range that has a different configuration every week. Upped our moving, targeting and shooting skills.
Good point
rockin the trx💪 i live in rural California and train in the wild. just setting up targets is difficult
Glad you took this class! Sheds light on how much, we all need to continue to learn.
I've been trained by NBPD in Wisconsin. Then, by Colonel Jeff Cooper at Gunsite. When he was alive many years ago. Shot competition for several years at Rio Salado here in Phoenix. Stopped when the young guys moved faster than this old guy. Now, it's just the range. All that to say this was a good informative video.
Always entertained by guys in tactical gear wearing the baseball cap in travel lock plugging away. I remember the first round that went past my head. Traveled left to right. Hit the berm to my right.
6:53 How is that dude flexing his left arm in a relaxed position? Dude is jacked!
A lot of well-built youtubers practice arm flexing in front of the mirror, just like well-built folks do at home or in the gym. They're well aware of what they're doing.
8:53 he’s pretty close to the top of that rock with his barrel. Looks clear through the optic, but beware the barrel
I live in a small rural town. So when it's squirrel, deer, and rabbit season we deal with this kind of shooting all the time.
@ColionNoir another fun outdoor test, look into Run and Guns. Primarily a midwest thing. Imagine a 5k biathlon (pistol/rifle) on trails. And you carry everything with you.
its just like the video Gar'rand thumb put out a couple days agp about evasion unless you actually do it you won't learn it I really wish there were ranges up in the hills where I live, sadly 99.9% of them are set up for people to sit down and are inside.
That's exactly what I want to do. Great training. It was very informative. Next time we could have a watcher to zoom a few targets we would be able to spot how it hits it by the time the bullet reach the object
Got to love the mountains. Nevada here 🙋🏾♂️
Hunting teaches these skills too, but some competitive shooting like 3 gun will often have jungle runs where targets are hidden throughout a trail in the woods. Also many of those same clubs offer night shoots on occasion.
I have run a number of similar events at our club complex in So Cal, day and night. We also set up similar COF’s out on BLM areas. A lot of these events are modeled on Gunsite activities. Use of natural features that require the shooter to get into “field” positions is paramount, however we usually allow only two shots per target before moving on. Nearly all have a time limit for each shoot station. This teaches the participants to make shots from difficult positions under time pressure. A lot of the shoot stations require that you find the target first, then engage.
Interesting. I do see the advantages of being a hunter.
I think simunitions was the best training I had. It really said a lot about oneself and is easily the best to prepare you for force on force. next to that hunting is a great preparation with all the distraction.
My "shooting out in nature" has always been hunting seasons. This past season I was hunting antelope in N.Central Nevada was shooting prone withy daypack as a rest. Jut GETTING to the antelope was the hardest part. Some e-mountain bike riding and mostly hiking to 9,000 feet in steep terrain.
BUT... competing in Steel Challenge shoots with my RUGER 9 mm PC chassis carbine DOES prepare me much better for real life situations if only because it makes me VERY familiar with my carbine and sight but also it trains me in fast target acquisition and barricade use.
That instructor has the awesomest name ever created! He's a boss! That name is awesome!
I must say, you are a pretty damn good shot. To hit those targets, especially at the last one, through the brush on your first shot, is very impressive. I live in the dictatorship of New Jersey, and there is nowhere around here that has a shooting experience quite like that. I belong to Cherry Ridge Range, in Vernon and it's great being outdoors. It's a pretty good setup, but the most you get is about 300 yds.
probably illegal up there, powerline right of ways, even ng lines, helluba walk though you can reach out over half a mile to your target. It's how you can do irons at 1Ky. Maybe now bad thoughts on how to in your brain... blame me
Buck Doyle is the man. You’re pretty cool too Colion.
I'm in massachusetts, there's nowhere in the entire state to do this, or anything even remotely close. (Part of why im moving down south next year)
You can't actually carry a rifle. Unless you're trying to find the quickest route to prison. (Even if you're licensed)
What's it say on your plates, "The Spirit of America"?
@@dashcammer4322 this state only wants to help drug addicts. It really sucks 🤣
I wanna take one of bucks courses bad man! I'm active duty and this is right up my ally. Hoping to get some free time soon to jump in a course. Thanks for the video Noir, always appreciate the content. Keep doing what you do bro. Full support bro.
My church is putting together a security team. This is the first thing I told them. The church ground is large enough for air pistols and rifles, witch would be better than no training.
My efforts at the range were to experience and practice in 100° heat and 30° cold plus all the wind that came with those. If the eqpt was finicky or cranky in those conditions then what was to be expected when the real tasks of hunting were at hand?
Colion, this video is 'the real life application' every hunter needs to encounter to verify they have the eqpt AND skills for that one big hunt.
I liked this a lot. I learned a lot of this hunting.. but to the folks that have never hunted or did any time in the military, I'm not sure they would think this way.. great video!
it helps for knowing what your carry, but yea you gotta practice in what you wanna be decent at. this includes doing planning around your home in case of intruders
Hunting out in nature is the ultimate challenge of marksmanship. Range shooting is just bowling with a bang.
Nice job Colion i Watcth all your videos . im a single dad can't afford a gun club to get out to shoot. only hope my natural skill can save my family
You hit the target threw the branches on the first try? Thats fricken awesome! Great job!
So this is why airsoft can be very useful as well, while the shooting is a little bit different, being shot at is different than shooting targets and in self defense you are likely to need tactical skills to be successful in combat and airsoft or paintball definitely gives you that!
I love airsoft
Such a dope ass location to learn some skills
Shooting on a range at paper targets is NOT the same as shooting in real life. However it’s difficult to train like real life. The closest you’re going to get is using sim rounds against real people that shoot back. I got sim training Twice before deploying. It’s still not enough, but definitely better than shooting at a paper target from prescribed distances. Another realistic part of sim rounds training is the adrenaline rush and panic of being shot back at. A “great shooter” can become useless if they can’t deal with the pressure but I’ve also seen an “average shooter” Use the adrenaline and become a great asset for a team.
I’ve hunted in Maine for 38 years and I’m now 50. I was in the Army for 6 years and did better at a pop up range than paper targets. I do go to a range to just hang with friends and associates. Also just to dump some rounds for fun.
Awesome. us country boys been doing stuff like that since we we're kids. Only we're actually shooting our food. Except I mostly used a bolt action riffle.
Solid video. Gives me something more to think about and consider.
The sad thought that there doesn't seem to be any sort of course to take to learn how to deal with the city environment. This is totally different from being out in the wilderness, where everything is wide open for endless miles around. A lot of us won't be able to simply bugout, for various reasons. We'll be stuck in the city or suburbs hunkering down, doing whatever is necessary to survive, and that won't come easily.
Fortunately, I'm a member of an outdoor range that isn't as large as in the video, but enough area to shoot and scoot, some animated (spinners, popup) targets, long-range (400,600,800,1000 yards, an urban paintball "tactics" arena.
I live in coastal SC. only elevation changes we have are from the rooftops and overpasses. It’s flat as hell out here.
Fortunately, I live in wild country. I'm grateful for that every day.
I wish i had somewhere to do run and gun type of shit, i still go running in my plate carrier so at least i get that
Amazing how you have to do and actually work for the shots
Colion. If u just shot a few USPSA matches or even 2 gun matches, you’d realize this video was unneeded. U gotta get out there and compete and compete often.
That’s the truth.
I live in suburban area with a lil urban areas. There’s not a lot of nature where I live. I will need to practice on cars and buildings.
Thank you ( SIR) for showing & Sharing this wonderful real world 🌎 outdoors Range. This would be fun with the M-1
(30 ot 6) caliber. Longer Range Rifles. 😊
Very neat, WIND messing with your shots.
Man that’s some great stuff. Thanks for the video!
I live in california, so going to my local gun range is already an insane experience. I Would love to actually do a course. We don’t have many options.
Excellent video. Would love to take some of these courses some day.
A great addition to this video would be if you were filming in an abandoned urban type environment and discerning between cover and concealment. But I appreciate and respect your perspective. Thanks for sharing! 👍🏾
Nice 👍🏼 work. That’s the coolest shooting range I’ve ever seen!🙌🏼
Somethings better then nothing… GO TO A GUN RANGE don’t feel like you have to perform like John wick to do so. Stay ready and you won’t have to get ready.
thanks for making the vid!
Also I forgot to mention. Nature changes your zero. So zeroing at a indoor will get you on paper but add the elements and it changes everything.
That has to be the most beautiful shooting range in the world.
Fantastic looked so fun
Uhhh… I know you’ve never seen my private range. It’s like an obstacle course built by nature. Love it. Didn’t love that sapling in the way of the 308, it it’s not in the way anymore. Same with the vines.
Great info ColIon, I was wondering about the sound, as in the Maine bowling alley. Lot of people never heard a live round inside a building unless you have indoor range time. What to do ? do you yell gun ~ drop cover or run ? But first we need sound to ID 5W's and course of action. Those around guns don't duck, but drop,look, then ? draw if EDC is on them. Bowling alleys most, have a XX gun rule. May want to do a vid on weapon sounds,, AK, short gun , glock etc.. just like this outdoor per round sound.. phew phew.. Thx bud
Good to see you back at buck’s
Howdy , I like the terrain . Reminds me of home
Agreed; punching paper indoors without any impediment makes for good practice and learning, but the REAL DEAL is in the twists and turns nature throws at the shooter, and that is much easier if there is NOBODY with the intentions of shooting back at you with lethality in his/her power. Combat shooting makes for formidable tasks to be performed, so when your life is at stake, the conditions really become challenging exponentially. Thank you for a fine video. Stay well.
Great video. I hope you do more like this.
Some of us arent like you, we don't have thousands upon thousands of dollars and infinite corporate deals that allow you do "train as you fight". Hell, I can barely afford ammo now let alone a spot at the range which isn't saying much. Must be nice man, must be real nice.
You sound like you're too busy hating and crying to look for solutions. If you live somewhere that has Bureau of Land Management federal lands, you can shoot outdoors for free. You can hunt on public land (wildlife management areas) for a small fee. You can afford ammo if prioritize making regular, small purchases. Over time, you will have a nice little stockpile; but if you don't train, stockpiling ammo is kind of silly. There are numerous videos on RUclips about drills you can perform with just 50 rounds. Where there's a will, there's a way. Being jealous or envious of someone else and making excuses won't help anything.
I wonder how much range training there will be when the gas costs $20 a gallon and there are no bullets for sale to the public? 3 months and counting down…
Check out the Competition Dynamics matches for super field based shooting similar to this video.
Go down the sling rabbit hole and look at lunar concepts slings. Being a bit wider and sslightly padded where u need it, and they make a metric ton of difference when your working your ars up down and your walking running with it. Nice quick toggle and all that. Im telling ya youll be pissed you didnt
This where i think hunters have distinct advantage over most other shooters, we have to take what we get for shots based on where the animal is and where we are, there are really no easy shot in thw wild.
For a homebody (for the most part), this was an excellent video for me. Lot's of things to consider for sure. Would love to know what ammo you used and what you zeroed in at. You were going after some long range targets!