Antoni is a perfect example of how a repertoire of simple actions done right can yield outstanding results. His parry-ripostes are among the sharpest, his footwork is linear but among the quickest, his thrusts usually come from the same line but they’re launched with perfect form. I’d say one of his few weaknesses is against lefties. I don’t know if this is completely true (as I’m basing these off of two matches) but he seemed to struggle against Kasper Aase at SF and Jack Gassman at Minsk. Jack’s ochs seemed to trip up his linear style, but he managed to pull through in the end. If you haven’t done so already, you should watch his SF elimination bouts against Kristian Ruokonen and Jimmy Olsson in the quarters and semi (on facebook). He cleaned them 8-0 with capped scores. I’ve NEVER seen someone do that to Ruokonen in so dominant a fashion. His performance at Minsk was also really impressive. He closely beat Martin Fabian and showed excellent thrust defense in his victory in the final against Sergey Kultaev. It’s a shame that, to a casual audience, only long exchanges, fancy disarms, and movie-like techniques are interesting. All of these are of course pleasant to watch, but there’s also something beautiful about a lightning-fast thrust executed properly, or a parry-riposte so quick that the opponent can’t engage in a long exchange.
Always awesome comments from you! I think a lot of people have difficulties against lefties. So much muscle memory applies to attacks from a certain direction it can be difficult to adapt. I wasn't able to locate these but I will take another look and get back to you. I need to start messaging you to help locate fencing videos. You are very knowledgeable!
Turul HEMA yeah, haha, I just watch a lot of footage and try to integrate it into my own fencing. It’s fun, too, and imo HEMA is no less watchable than other popular sport out there.
@@TurulHEMA "Wha? Is this even a word?" Loved the guy with his hands in the "I don't know man, whatever" gesture. XD Don't bother, our language *is* fucked-up a bit. Love the analysis videos. Greetings from Poland.
I love that you’ve covered a lot of the European (and frankly more popular fencers)- but could you please do a breakdown of folks like Aaron Karnuta, Mackenzie Adal-Ewing, and Jeremy Pace? I think you’ve only done 1-2 NA fencers.
Sure man I will give them a look! To be honest nationality wasn't something that had crossed my mind yet. Mostly I was selecting fencers based off of availability of videos and the Dutch Lions Cup has been my main source.
@@TurulHEMA sweet, thanks for considering it! They usually have videos on channels like the Denver Historical Fencing School or Cymbrogi WMA. Definitely give them a look man!
You should do McKenzie first. Probably the most available footage out of those three (maybe Aaron) and his style is extremely fun to watch. And I don’t trust Jeremy Pace’s rating at all- though he’s a fantastic fencer, he’ll look better than he actually is because he’s never competed on the East Coast or in Europe.
I had no idea! I want to try it out. I agree with Stuffmonster. I looks easier than the gayschlen but get the same points. Martially not the same level of damage, but that is actually a good thing in terms of sportsmanship.
@@thestuffmonster9856 They do. Incredibly baffling though when you spend half a year using all those different guards just to see your more experienced partner sit in breve during your first real sparring xD
@@TurulHEMA Yeah it really is not the same level of damage - most of the time it actually ends up being just a scratch not warranting a point in any serious tournament too. Unless, like Olbrychski, you master it perfectly :D
For the double hit part, what I have seen in this several clips is that his opponents do not attempt to parry Antonio’s reposte, but commit to another immediate hit. Form my opinion, that’s totally the opponents’ fault on not trying to parry, which lead to unclean doubles.
I consider determining fault in a double hit to be all but impossible. There are so many unknown variables. I prefer to focus on identifying certain actions which have resulted in a double, then determining if that action is inherently prone to double hits or not. In truth, I have seen this technique result in many doubles when used by other fencers, but I have also seen the opposite. The difference in double hit ratios may be due to how the opponent responds to the technique. Perhaps it is only effective against defense oriented opponents who will move to parry rather than double out. Also possible that the observed double hits are purely a result of unfortunate sampling and Olbrychski has a very low double hit ratio and a high rate of success with this technique. I have no way of knowing for certain one way or the other.
nah, slight taps with a longsword without gear on can break bones. even light practice sparring with lacrosse gloves can rip fingernails. don't underestimate the slight taps is all I'm saying.
No, those are called feder, real historical practice sword. People back in those days made a steel practice sword that's more flexible than a real sword so it would be safer for practice thrusting, mass closer to the handle so the cuts will be less painful but you can still feel the "steel vs steel" experience compare to wooden swords
I don’t like the fact that more and more HEMA fencers are jumping back and forth in competitions. It’s actually a bad habit for martial artists, and can be very fatal on slippery grounds. You might not expect to always have a firm ground with fencing shoes in historical scenarios, and you are pretty much dead if you move and suddenly lose your balance.
Usually fencers fight that way because they came from Olympic fencing, a habit that imprinted deeply into their movements and it translated well into HEMA sporty enviroment. It wouldn't fly in a real fighting terrain of medieval time but you will always lose something when you sportify a martial art
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Antoni is a perfect example of how a repertoire of simple actions done right can yield outstanding results. His parry-ripostes are among the sharpest, his footwork is linear but among the quickest, his thrusts usually come from the same line but they’re launched with perfect form.
I’d say one of his few weaknesses is against lefties. I don’t know if this is completely true (as I’m basing these off of two matches) but he seemed to struggle against Kasper Aase at SF and Jack Gassman at Minsk. Jack’s ochs seemed to trip up his linear style, but he managed to pull through in the end.
If you haven’t done so already, you should watch his SF elimination bouts against Kristian Ruokonen and Jimmy Olsson in the quarters and semi (on facebook). He cleaned them 8-0 with capped scores. I’ve NEVER seen someone do that to Ruokonen in so dominant a fashion. His performance at Minsk was also really impressive. He closely beat Martin Fabian and showed excellent thrust defense in his victory in the final against Sergey Kultaev.
It’s a shame that, to a casual audience, only long exchanges, fancy disarms, and movie-like techniques are interesting. All of these are of course pleasant to watch, but there’s also something beautiful about a lightning-fast thrust executed properly, or a parry-riposte so quick that the opponent can’t engage in a long exchange.
Always awesome comments from you! I think a lot of people have difficulties against lefties. So much muscle memory applies to attacks from a certain direction it can be difficult to adapt. I wasn't able to locate these but I will take another look and get back to you. I need to start messaging you to help locate fencing videos. You are very knowledgeable!
Turul HEMA yeah, haha, I just watch a lot of footage and try to integrate it into my own fencing. It’s fun, too, and imo HEMA is no less watchable than other popular sport out there.
Great comment
This is your best vid yet - that Eurotrip reference is priceless!
Thanks! It's the little jokes that are the main motivation for me to make a video.
I love these, haven't seen one in a while
I am glad you like them! Yeah last one was around 7 months ago. Life gets crazy sometimes =/
"Szermierzy" ("fencers" in Polish) is pronounced kinda like sher-me-shy (but with short 'y' more resembling something between 'i' and 'e').
Thank you! I looked up the google pronunciation but was confident I would mess it up (not unusual for this channel).
@@TurulHEMA "Wha? Is this even a word?" Loved the guy with his hands in the "I don't know man, whatever" gesture. XD
Don't bother, our language *is* fucked-up a bit. Love the analysis videos.
Greetings from Poland.
I love that you’ve covered a lot of the European (and frankly more popular fencers)- but could you please do a breakdown of folks like Aaron Karnuta, Mackenzie Adal-Ewing, and Jeremy Pace? I think you’ve only done 1-2 NA fencers.
Sure man I will give them a look! To be honest nationality wasn't something that had crossed my mind yet. Mostly I was selecting fencers based off of availability of videos and the Dutch Lions Cup has been my main source.
@@TurulHEMA sweet, thanks for considering it! They usually have videos on channels like the Denver Historical Fencing School or Cymbrogi WMA. Definitely give them a look man!
You should do McKenzie first. Probably the most available footage out of those three (maybe Aaron) and his style is extremely fun to watch. And I don’t trust Jeremy Pace’s rating at all- though he’s a fantastic fencer, he’ll look better than he actually is because he’s never competed on the East Coast or in Europe.
TheStuffmonster gotta say Europe isn’t easy to get to lol. But yeah, it’d be cool to see Jeremy at SERFO or one of the LHFL events.
Connor Dillon I’m not blaming Jeremy at all, but I’d love to see him go against some Russian fencers, though 😛
good video! thank you!
It's my pleasure. Thank you for watching!
Regarding sniping - lots of peoplein Poland rely heavily on this 1-handed shin snipe from what I've noticed. National move perhaps? X)
Faster than the gayschlen from vom tag, easier to recover, and most Polish fencers fence out of posta breve anyway.
I had no idea! I want to try it out. I agree with Stuffmonster. I looks easier than the gayschlen but get the same points. Martially not the same level of damage, but that is actually a good thing in terms of sportsmanship.
@@thestuffmonster9856 They do. Incredibly baffling though when you spend half a year using all those different guards just to see your more experienced partner sit in breve during your first real sparring xD
@@TurulHEMA Yeah it really is not the same level of damage - most of the time it actually ends up being just a scratch not warranting a point in any serious tournament too. Unless, like Olbrychski, you master it perfectly :D
For the double hit part, what I have seen in this several clips is that his opponents do not attempt to parry Antonio’s reposte, but commit to another immediate hit. Form my opinion, that’s totally the opponents’ fault on not trying to parry, which lead to unclean doubles.
I consider determining fault in a double hit to be all but impossible. There are so many unknown variables. I prefer to focus on identifying certain actions which have resulted in a double, then determining if that action is inherently prone to double hits or not. In truth, I have seen this technique result in many doubles when used by other fencers, but I have also seen the opposite. The difference in double hit ratios may be due to how the opponent responds to the technique. Perhaps it is only effective against defense oriented opponents who will move to parry rather than double out. Also possible that the observed double hits are purely a result of unfortunate sampling and Olbrychski has a very low double hit ratio and a high rate of success with this technique. I have no way of knowing for certain one way or the other.
these sword fights devolved into something similar to olympic fencing. points should be awarded for the lethality of strikes, no slight taps.
nah, slight taps with a longsword without gear on can break bones. even light practice sparring with lacrosse gloves can rip fingernails. don't underestimate the slight taps is all I'm saying.
Those hand snipes from below can certainly end fights. You literally can cut open the veins under the arm with just that
Are longswords normally that flimsy and fencing foil-like?
No, those are called feder, real historical practice sword. People back in those days made a steel practice sword that's more flexible than a real sword so it would be safer for practice thrusting, mass closer to the handle so the cuts will be less painful but you can still feel the "steel vs steel" experience compare to wooden swords
@@jaketheasianguy3307 Historical feders were point-heavier than current modern ones. Matt Easton has a good video on that if you are interested.
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I love your mad Russian fencer, he is quite a risky lad
I don’t like the fact that more and more HEMA fencers are jumping back and forth in competitions. It’s actually a bad habit for martial artists, and can be very fatal on slippery grounds. You might not expect to always have a firm ground with fencing shoes in historical scenarios, and you are pretty much dead if you move and suddenly lose your balance.
Usually fencers fight that way because they came from Olympic fencing, a habit that imprinted deeply into their movements and it translated well into HEMA sporty enviroment. It wouldn't fly in a real fighting terrain of medieval time but you will always lose something when you sportify a martial art
We should do more tournaments outside
My clubs practice outside.