An Electrifying Day with the Fence Charger

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  • Опубликовано: 16 янв 2025

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  • @DPW55
    @DPW55 Год назад +1

    Hillary is so blessed to have a man like you in her life ,so practical and right,
    Pete your blessed with. God’s quality s

  • @allanjohnson2925
    @allanjohnson2925 Год назад +1

    Lineman pliers. I always enjoy Pete and Hilary doing routine work.

  • @BodyGuardOfLies1
    @BodyGuardOfLies1 Год назад +20

    Farmers writing romance novels-
    "Her body tensed and quivered as she felt wave after wave surge through it.
    I probably should have told her about, the new electric fence."

  • @jml9464
    @jml9464 Год назад +65

    I could hang out with you all day Pete. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos and sharing your life and philosophies and skills with us!

  • @bertadelaudebri7179
    @bertadelaudebri7179 Год назад +31

    Truly enjoy viewing a farmer who's also a RUclipsr as opposed to a RUclipsr who farms!

  • @chadcarlton8525
    @chadcarlton8525 Год назад +81

    Pete was shocking surprised the fence was on lol

  • @isrealhopkins
    @isrealhopkins Год назад +97

    I admire Pete and his family he lives a lifestyle I truly inspire to achieve 15 years until I retire and start a farm ,, thanks Pete for being so dang cool

    • @brandywineblue
      @brandywineblue Год назад +8

      You can start gardens and chickens in your backyard, get some good practice, knowledge and routine established in that time! That's what Joel Salatin told a young man who said it'd take years to save up for a piece of land. Pete mentioned Joel when he was talking about chicken tractors and reclaiming pasture land using the various animals' natural instincts (eg pigs rooting, chickens scratching, goats browsing, etc)

    • @johnsmit5516
      @johnsmit5516 Год назад +2

      Don’t leave it too late so you can still enjoy it

    • @johnmatthews1772
      @johnmatthews1772 Год назад +1

      😅​@@brandywineblue😢😊❤❤

    • @johnmatthews1772
      @johnmatthews1772 Год назад

      ❤​@@brandywineblue❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @MikeOrazzi
      @MikeOrazzi Год назад

      This is true. Start as soon as you can. @@johnsmit5516

  • @Minecraft-gw1jv
    @Minecraft-gw1jv Год назад +9

    When he touched the Fence and you heard it Pop him… I busted out laughing 😂😂… Love ya Pete, from Germany❤️

  • @Farmer_Owen-o13
    @Farmer_Owen-o13 Год назад +9

    We took our 1952 super md to the county fair and I spent hours and hours a day sitting next to the tractor telling people about it

    • @Farmer_Owen-o13
      @Farmer_Owen-o13 Год назад +2

      im 11 and I know more than almost everyone I know

    • @blackdiamond5507
      @blackdiamond5507 Год назад

      @@Farmer_Owen-o13 I believe it !! I'm old and I know they have systematically and demonically succeeded in the dumbing down of America.
      Congratulations, keep on keeping on. 😊😘

  • @frankbever1788
    @frankbever1788 Год назад +35

    Pete, I am impressed with the way your tractors start. After watching for a few years, I shouldn’t be surprised, excellent maintenance and overhauls. Growing up in western Pa. many years ago, we had As, Cs, Hs and Ms. we would call the difficult to start tractors, Hill Tractors, that’s the ones you parked on a hill before shutting them off. That way you could drift start them when you needed to use them again. Thanks for the memories.

    • @JustaFewAcresFarm
      @JustaFewAcresFarm  Год назад +36

      Just a memory of mine...when I was young, we never had "nice" tractors. Brakes didn't work, temperamental, breaking down, hard to start, beat up, tired engines, really "low overhead" pieces of equipment. One of the reasons I started restoring tractors was because I wanted ones that worked like new.

    • @samvalentine3206
      @samvalentine3206 Год назад +10

      @@JustaFewAcresFarm - And you have been kind enough to provide us with hours of entertainment of you doing just that... thank you, Pete!

    • @brandywineblue
      @brandywineblue Год назад +7

      ​@@JustaFewAcresFarmthank you Pete for showing that stuff, like my dad! He kept many Volkswagens running over the years....drift start, ha ha! My brother and I used to push those Beetles with my dad, then he'd jump in and get it started (pop the clutch?). Funny to see a 6 foot 2 inch guy pull that off! God bless you and your family Pete!

    • @Farmer_Owen-o13
      @Farmer_Owen-o13 Год назад +5

      Same with us our newest tractor is a farmall 140 and our oldest is a 1949 oliver 77 row crop

    • @greghamann2099
      @greghamann2099 Год назад +2

      @@JustaFewAcresFarm Interesting!

  • @steverichardson2224
    @steverichardson2224 Год назад

    I am 61 and one thing I have learned about you Pete (and respect), is that these videos are made for our entertainment, education, and enjoyment. Do you do everything like I used to, no, but that's OK. We can always appreciate and possibly learn different methods. You are a very smart and talented man Pete, and I am humble enough to admit just because something works for me doesn't mean it has to work for you. Keep up the good work! Murfreesboro TN

  • @codyvought8923
    @codyvought8923 Год назад

    No matter how many times I've seen someone else get shocked by a fence, it's funny 😂

  • @johnodwyer1386
    @johnodwyer1386 Год назад

    Hi Pete, I love your videos which remind me of the time when I lived on a small farm in southern Ireland in my early life. My father used to call the cattle like you do. Every one of them also had a name too. I am amazed how similar your farm in New York was to ours 50 years ago. Although we did not have even electric fences back then my job was to move cattle from field to field and I and my father would feed them with hay bundles from our backs. It was possible because we only had 15 cattle in all. I love seeing Hilary with you on the farm because my mother also played a large part in running the farm.
    I am 68 years old now and even though I did not stay on the farm all those years I have still fond memories of my homeplace

  • @samwiginton339
    @samwiginton339 Год назад +11

    I never thought of tilting the ground rod under the wall , thanks for the tip, those are lineman pliers I have a pair i have used for many many years

    • @benvoncamp
      @benvoncamp Год назад +3

      My dad had a pair he accused me of losing. I found them right where HE left them. Couple of decades later and they’re more often on my hip than not.

  • @TheCajunHomestead
    @TheCajunHomestead Год назад +11

    Pete, I am sorry, I did chuckle a little when you decided not to hold that electric fence but for just a few seconds. My wife gets a laugh every time I touch the hot fence wire too.

    • @tomc.7520
      @tomc.7520 Год назад +2

      LOL. Yip, it's a feeling you don't forget.

  • @johnskelton5683
    @johnskelton5683 Год назад +3

    OMG, 😬 Pete got zapped, 💤 did you see him jump! One hell of an electrician he is! LOL. 😂😂

  • @Papazipper9436
    @Papazipper9436 Год назад +3

    I’ll just be in my little zen world with just a few acres farm ……..ummmmmmmmmmmmm! 😇🙏♥️🇨🇦

  • @stevenstone4994
    @stevenstone4994 Год назад

    You are an excellent videographer. We enjoy getting out of the city by watching you, your family and the livestock. My wife giggles like a child every time you show the piglets. You are a smart man.

  • @iwuvmycolts
    @iwuvmycolts Год назад

    I feel like I learn something very resourceful that I can apply to my own life every time I watch one of Pete's videos. Thanks for the upload, Pete!!

  • @xtender5
    @xtender5 Год назад +6

    No wonder all of Peter's projects turn out so well. He always has a whole herd, with Patty in the lead, giving him instructions and advice.

  • @frankcurley
    @frankcurley Год назад

    Dad was an electrician and up here in Haldimand County Ontario we had good old clay. My brothers and I pounded many of those ground rods growing up helping Dad. Thanks for making me sweat just watching you....

  • @gypsylady3458
    @gypsylady3458 Год назад +8

    😊so glad to watch a couple work together! You sharing your expertise really is encouraging! A former farm wife. Shirley

  • @cathypearson3823
    @cathypearson3823 Год назад +1

    My Dad was an electrician, farmer and general fix- whatever-got-broke kind of guy. Many days he had his favorite linesman pliers in his back pocket. When we were making decisions about his tools after he passed, I was happy to claim them.❤

  • @user-tl9pq7bq5y
    @user-tl9pq7bq5y Год назад +16

    You’re a legend Pete

  • @Crysalis02010
    @Crysalis02010 Год назад

    Hilarie's "booooo" was brutal. I love it.

  • @johnskelton5683
    @johnskelton5683 Год назад +9

    Oh, 😮 Pete's a radical now! he rejects his architectural training by not aligning the control panels symmetricly. Ah, life on a farm, you can do as you please until works calls at 4:30am everyday!

  • @jeffreynew4355
    @jeffreynew4355 Год назад +25

    Pete, did you know 90% of bald people still own a comb? They just can't part with it.

  • @HeavyDemir
    @HeavyDemir Год назад +1

    Hi Pete and Hillary.
    Hillary is such a saint, she never told Pete that she pulled up (by hand) and put back the rods while he was off changing the implement, I've heard that when Chuck Norris needs a hand he calls Hillary.

  • @MiriamMNewby
    @MiriamMNewby Год назад

    Pete, Hillary, and the kids. You are so lucky to live on a farm. I enjoy real people doing real-life jobs. I am sharing as often as I can.

  • @Hotbulldozer
    @Hotbulldozer Год назад +2

    It was very entertaining when he was zapped! 😁

    • @JustaFewAcresFarm
      @JustaFewAcresFarm  Год назад +4

      It was. For some reason, getting zapped always improves my mood.

  • @JL-xn3zy
    @JL-xn3zy Год назад +1

    Just A Few Acres Farms rocks!!!😎👍👍👍

  • @malcolmthomas9953
    @malcolmthomas9953 Год назад

    Pays to make shore the fence is off hey Pete , l laughed so much had to watch it 4 times , l had tears in my eyes l laughed so much well done Pete 👏 ✔️

  • @johnthomas6745
    @johnthomas6745 Год назад +2

    You have a dear wife in Hillary and it's nice to see her more. Appreciate and look forward to each visit with you both.

  • @hollyjobitner3285
    @hollyjobitner3285 Год назад

    My husband, an electrician, would call that tool a side cutter! 💙

  • @Mr1winther
    @Mr1winther Год назад

    So nice to see you take grounding serious.. so few know the importance.. also with fencing...😀👍

  • @JohnWood-tk1ge
    @JohnWood-tk1ge Год назад +6

    Got blown out of a trench by 440 that know one knew was there,ever since my sympathy is with the animals when it comes to electric fence!

    • @stephaniewilson3955
      @stephaniewilson3955 Год назад +3

      The fence pulses so they get a quick zap to tell them to go away without major harm.

    • @brandywineblue
      @brandywineblue Год назад

      😂 don't feel too badly. The horses on the farm I worked on were so big, they used to deliberately LEAN into the wire to get a free massage!!!!

    • @JohnWood-tk1ge
      @JohnWood-tk1ge Год назад

      @@stephaniewilson3955 a shock is a shock to me. I have had farm animals my whole life and since the 440 I don’t care for any amount!

  • @ethanswearingin2924
    @ethanswearingin2924 Год назад +10

    Love watching your videos Pete your editing style and your humor always make for an enjoyable video! Anyways thanks for the video I look forward to the future

  • @donkndave7811
    @donkndave7811 Год назад +8

    Pete, another great video. Here is a thought... why not cut the heavy cattle fence you put up in your last video at the wooden post so you can make a wide gate that would go from the wooden post to the next post. Looks like it would be simpler and allow you to have a wider gate for " just in case" situations.
    Enjoy your videos. You have inspired me to have chickens. I have ten.
    Dave

    • @tinashields9599
      @tinashields9599 Год назад

      I suppose he figured he might need that space for feeding- otherwise a good idea.

  • @msw00
    @msw00 Год назад

    One more job mostly complete, looking good, as is the farm in general. You and Hillary have a great day.

  • @miguelavelasquez8056
    @miguelavelasquez8056 Год назад +10

    Looks like you are on your way to finishing your barn project always nice to see you and your wife working together you guys are my favorite team thanks for sharing pete blessings

  • @f.joebechtel7488
    @f.joebechtel7488 Год назад

    I love Hillary being on the show she is great

  • @ayankinthephilippines9927
    @ayankinthephilippines9927 Год назад +2

    Now that you have put out a new video I could go to sleep here in the Philippines

  • @MrPhillgrimes
    @MrPhillgrimes Год назад

    Pete, you had my wife rolling and laughing. 😂 I use a bugle headed drywall screw with a washer on almost everything. My philosophy is it's only temporary unless it works.

  • @jesperb.nielsen4111
    @jesperb.nielsen4111 Год назад

    The fence is on....... 😅😅😅😅... ... Petes, wakeup call😊😊. Nice job. Regards from Jesper, Denmark

  • @kriscroan3540
    @kriscroan3540 Год назад

    Educational and interesting. Thanks Pete! My husband always did everything electrical on our farm, so now I understand what made our fences so electrifying.😵‍💫

  • @Dan-qy1rg
    @Dan-qy1rg Год назад +12

    I like what you did with the electric fence. I admire the patience you have when you work on projects like the fence, I wish I could be as calm. Anyways, I enjoyed your video, thanks and have a nice day!

  • @johnwesner3935
    @johnwesner3935 Год назад

    Pete, I am so sorry for laughing when you got shocked!😢 No, I'm not. Been there! We live in the glaciated region of Wisconsin. I could never drive a ground rod that easily. When I dig a hole to plant a bush I end up with the truck bed full of rocks and have to bring in soil to fill the hole! During a recent street improvement project it took a special contractor over three weeks to drill ten "H" piles for a retaining wall. Drill, grout, core, repeat!😢 It is cool though to see some of the strange geology. Thanks!

  • @paulinelarson465
    @paulinelarson465 Год назад

    My Minnesota farmer uncles had strict rules about safety procedures for us children. Most important, ALL the pitchforks were to be accounted for, in their storage area, before we could play in the hayloft. Before we touched any wire fence, we were to test it with a long grass stem. I'm 74 now and I think they were still a bit leary of the electrification. They also ran the electric through the existing barbed wire, instead of the modern smooth wires. My sister was zapped a few times because she would forget to test - then she would blame me for purposely zapping her ! !

  • @simontheyers801
    @simontheyers801 Год назад

    The tractor sounds great... just purring ❤❤❤

  • @lefty0741
    @lefty0741 Год назад

    Pete, I have to say that you have a wonderful wife as Hil works right along with you. You guys make a nice complimentary couple.

  • @callanicol3657
    @callanicol3657 Год назад +2

    I couldn't stop laughing when you forgot the fence was on.... Amazing, something we have done ourselves more than a few times. Thank you for your videos.

  • @derekwhitehead5346
    @derekwhitehead5346 Год назад

    a remark about daylight saving time, as a young man in the merchant navy the ships clocks were put forward or back about half an hour every day depending on sailing east or west. a pain in the bum. then i joined a company that mainly sailed north south...the difference...we never changed "ship time" no matter where we were or time ashore. ignore daylight saving time you will love it.

  • @vickiemeisinger9632
    @vickiemeisinger9632 Год назад

    Thanks Pete for explaining all of that to us and you and Hillary both caring about the beautiful land you have created with your constant upkeep mowing in slowly updating one thing after another… I’ve taken a number of screen pictures of your beautiful area… Too bad more farmers don’t try to Make your land as beautiful as you guys have or just keep the trash picked up and the weeds cut down!!
    I really don’t have any knowledge about electricity except it can hurt you lol. I also know that we need electricity for just about everything anymore so thank you for this excellent video (and your jokes)!!!!!😊😊♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @Marionpm1
    @Marionpm1 Год назад +2

    I love that you are organizing your farm and cleaning it up. Less bugs too. Your pile is covered. Yay. You and Hillary Make a great couple and team!!❤❤ blessings 🙌

  • @MikeOrazzi
    @MikeOrazzi Год назад

    So, I'm not the only one who gets shocked by his own fence. Nice.

  • @perrys3801
    @perrys3801 Год назад +2

    Your pliers are called lineman side cutters

  • @robmichalowski8428
    @robmichalowski8428 Год назад +7

    My next door neighbor has a solar powered fencer to keep deer and rabbits out of his gardens works fantastic on them

  • @billsrq1788
    @billsrq1788 Год назад +2

    Hello all from Siesta Key Florida
    Just needed a few more ponies to pull ground rod's

  • @overwatch2671
    @overwatch2671 Год назад +1

    Another great video Pete and Hillary

  • @markschumacher7408
    @markschumacher7408 Год назад

    Seeing you come out with a bigger tractor reminded me of a guy trying to loosen something by beating it with a hammer. When it still wouldn’t come loose, someone commented “don’t force it, just use a bigger hammer’.

  • @johnodwyer1386
    @johnodwyer1386 Год назад

    (Cont) I remember the animals, the beautiful river valley where I worked and lived and how important nature is to us humans always and these memories helped me always through my life. Thanks PETE and Hilary always. I love your RUclips videos. Regards, John

  • @johnskelton5683
    @johnskelton5683 Год назад +14

    Dam, did you see Pete do all the work in just 18:14min. He's going to be a general some day, I swear he will. 😂

  • @awesometaylor5881
    @awesometaylor5881 Год назад

    ❤🎉Blessings and Blessings to you and Hillary. Loved the video.
    Thank you so very much again.

  • @Tinytraveler
    @Tinytraveler Год назад +2

    Always fantastic to get up and find you in my recommended. Grabbing a cold drink and enjoying now!

  • @auntiesam8489
    @auntiesam8489 Год назад +2

    I've never had the opportunity to receive the shock from an electric fence. I hope to never touch a "hot" wire. Someday I will add one of these systems to keep the zombies out, I know I'm at risk of forgetting the wire is "hot" so I could not laugh at Pete getting a ZAP. Hillarie, keep both eyes 👁️👁️ on Pete. Enjoy your day.

  • @samuelrodriguez5430
    @samuelrodriguez5430 Год назад

    O my goodness!!
    I laughed sooo hard when you said you reject your architect training, and was purposely putting your electric box to the right. Not centered!! That was such a great comment.
    Love the channel

  • @angelzhomestead
    @angelzhomestead Год назад +3

    Thank you for the morning laugh. I love the insulated wire and grommer idea.

  • @maureensurdez7841
    @maureensurdez7841 Год назад

    I realized after this episode...ya gotta be smart, methodical, and have a great sense of humble humor! I know now I am nor smart enough to be a farmer.

  • @doubletapgaming1189
    @doubletapgaming1189 Год назад

    I'm so glad you didn't mount the charger crooked.... Thanks... Lol.

  • @tomc.7520
    @tomc.7520 Год назад

    Sorry Pete, I chuckled when you touched that hot fence, only because I have done the same thing as a boy working on a dairy farm. I'm 70 years old and I still remember that feeling. Also, I don't care what Hilarie says, we love your corny jokes. Hoping you, Hilarie , and the kids have a great day.

  • @oktawianciez6481
    @oktawianciez6481 Год назад +1

    I'm handicapped so I coudn't so 4% the work you do. You just gotta be grateful for what you got

  • @sunriseeyes0
    @sunriseeyes0 Год назад +1

    I love watching you and Hillary interact with each other. You both are adorable. This is has to be one of my top three favorite channels. Thank you for sharing all the hard work you do 🙏🏽💗

  • @danschneider7369
    @danschneider7369 Год назад +1

    Pete, of all the channels that I subscribe to and try to watch regularly, your channel is one that I NEVER miss. My wife and I watch as soon as a video comes out. It’s a before bedtime ritual for us. Your channel and Vice Grip Garage with Derek are our consistent top 2. Thanks SO MUCH for sharing your farm life with us.

  • @jewelcitizen2567
    @jewelcitizen2567 Год назад +1

    The brightest spark on RUclips

  • @kevinkoepke8311
    @kevinkoepke8311 Год назад

    You must be grateful you didn't hit a rock. While in Home Depot one day, I watched a guy loading a cart full of 1/2" ground rods, taking all that were there. Had to tell him the copper is just a plating. He walked away just leaving it, probably to go and steal someone's A/C.
    Thanks, Pete and Hillary!

  • @joannemurnaghan8921
    @joannemurnaghan8921 Год назад

    Hi Pete and Hilary I love you guy’s working together I’m always happy when I see your channel love you guys ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @StanTheBrand
    @StanTheBrand Год назад

    The ha ha yep! Celebration ! Satisfaction of winning.

  • @maureensurdez7841
    @maureensurdez7841 Год назад +2

    The new big barn is BEAUTIFUL!

  • @savrip
    @savrip Год назад

    Pete, that tool you love is called a lineman's plier. Also a suitable name is an electrician's hammer. 😊

  • @andymacdonald30
    @andymacdonald30 Год назад

    Poor Hilarie ,putting up with those jokes all the time .I am surprised Pete has not been added to the chicken feed ! LOL

  • @Balb23
    @Balb23 Год назад

    Hi Pete!! Great work on a beautiful day. We’re in the middle of finishing our barn. There is no exhausted feel like one that has barn building plus farm chores all day. But it is very satisfying.

  • @leahmollytheblindcatnordee3586

    As usual, really enjoyed your video. That was a lot of hard work getting those ground rods in. Hope you weren't sore afterwards as I certainly would be. I also enjoy looking through the comments. There are so many great people!

  • @dantor111
    @dantor111 Год назад +2

    wow the rod was really in there

  • @john67654
    @john67654 Год назад +1

    A big hello from a small town Thurles in Ireland 🇮🇪

  • @oxycocus
    @oxycocus Год назад

    I thought for sure Hilarie was gonna get zapped. Not that I wanted her to, I just thought she was. Be nice to Hilarie 🙂

  • @sammureno6862
    @sammureno6862 Год назад

    Always a pleasure to see you, it helps keep me sane.

  • @rickkucharski3211
    @rickkucharski3211 Год назад +1

    Got to love those fences. I remember back when I was about 18 or 19 I was visiting at my sister and brother-in-law's who had a few cows. He decided one day to change the location of his fences but I did not know this and in the evening I went to walk out to the barn and I walked right into the fence. Got me right across the thighs. I was stunned to the point where I just froze. It seemed like 3 seconds before I was able to jump back.

  • @beckyrobinson5672
    @beckyrobinson5672 Год назад +3

    That was very interesting pete, theres alot a farmer has to do. Thanks for sharing.God. bless

  • @terrylittle
    @terrylittle Год назад +4

    Spare the rod and spoil the fence I always say! You can never have too many. Enjoyed the video as always. Why was Cinderella so bad at soccer? Because she kept running away from the ball! 😁Take care and be safe till next time.

    • @terrylittle
      @terrylittle Год назад

      @@gbentley8176 I ordered a chicken and an egg online. I'll let you know which comes first.

  • @DPW55
    @DPW55 Год назад

    .wow life’s has its changes , love ya video s , please don’t stop Pete ,

  • @billkenosky3825
    @billkenosky3825 Год назад

    I like that you do what you want to do and don't let the world tell you how it has to be done.

  • @halsnyder296
    @halsnyder296 Год назад +1

    Aloha Pete! I’ve found that driving a rod or post IN a little bit loosens the grip of the earth on it, then it pulls easier. That’s how they pull piles, whack ‘em down a couple inches then rip ‘em out.

  • @fu2or
    @fu2or Год назад

    I just love these videos it reminds me of when I was younger and working on different farms these videos never get old I could watch a new one every day if it was available

  • @patriciabeyer8029
    @patriciabeyer8029 Год назад

    Good morning.
    😂😂😂😂 Watch out for the quiet ones. 😜😜😜

  • @bobwollard9105
    @bobwollard9105 Год назад

    Pete, I've been watching your videos for quite some time now and i seem to learn something new each time. And the bonus is that each of the videos is enjoyable. One of the other viewers talked about how helpful Hillary is to the farm effort. Yep. She is a wonderful helpmate. I dont think you could have done better. Brother, you are truly blessed. Stay safe.

  • @IceManOregon
    @IceManOregon Год назад +1

    I love farming with you two, I miss it and this way I can just relax while watching. Pete you are much better at farming the I was!

  • @highroad3580
    @highroad3580 Год назад +2

    That was a long hard day, Pete! Dinner will taste good. Soon you will have another step in the barn project accomplished.

  • @hayfork100
    @hayfork100 Год назад

    Nice to see Pete wearing his own Farm T-Shirt for a change. I have one in Blue.

  • @scottmarcom9390
    @scottmarcom9390 Год назад

    OW! THE FENCE IS ON! Made me LOL!! Touched a fence once at summer camp and never forgot that feeling! Stay Safe out there!

  • @stanleygallman7800
    @stanleygallman7800 Год назад

    Pulling up the ground rod's didn't take you long Pete before knowing that you needed the correct machine for getting the job done. The Dad jokes I never knew could make for such a good laugh 😜 why they somehow connect often crack me up 🤣. Thanks for another good video Pete and Hillary.