How Trading Craig Rivet In 2007 Led To An Embarrassment of Riches For The Canadiens | Trade Trees
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Steve Dangle breaks down how a midseason deal in 2007 has evolved into an embarrassment of riches for the Montreal Canadiens that is still evolving today!
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Finally! Here it is, alright?!?
Slacker.
hi
It's amazing! Keep it up, man! Hey Steve... I'm still weepin' from our loss in the Stanly Cup Final. >.>
We expect yearly updates given the tree is very much alive.
Much longer than I thought. I remember the trade and , it kind of didnt make sense for Montreal at the time.. but oh man, ..
But.. how can you end trade trees without even talking about Mike Sillinger, the most traded NHLer ever in history?
Seems like a travesty really. Can you at least consider it because it affected a LOT of peoples careers.
The Pacioretty trade gets even worse when you find out that Bergevin was targetting Cody Glass but McPhee insisted it be Suzuki in the trade
That's HUGE
Spot on! I 100% remember that as well!
He had 8X$7.675/year burning up a hole in his pocket for Nick…great highlight reel goals (Minnesota fan)
Took the painful words right out of my mouth...
thats only rumors. never been confirmed by anyone
I’ve never seen this trade tree before as a Montreal fan and oh my God
Same here, I'm flabbergasted!
Crazy how the Rivet trade landed us our potential first line center lol
The Rivet-Patch-Suzuki/Tatar line is well known. Was not aware of the Shaw and Allen trades as being part of that tree however.
@@itsjayv8807 not very potential anymore
I am so glad we bullied you into this tree, it was well worth it, very entertaining seeing it in detail. Thanks for featuring me as the first comment in your pile too!
Bullying works!
I'm the last comment of his pile hahaha
I can literally hear Urinatingtrees voice when talking about the 1st round pick... "that 1st round pick you gave up for Rivet became Max Pacioretty... wait up I'm not finished the pick you gave up for Guerin became David Perron"
A man of culture I see
First thing I thought
I don't follow football at all but I watch all Tree videos on football for sheer Yinzer outrage.
same lmfao
I'M CALLING BOTH GAMES!!
The trade tree that I wanted for so long. Thank you Steve
I had no idea DeBrincat was part of this tree. Makes it even crazier
I remember seeing Rivet in the penalty box in front of me in Sept. 1995 when I attended a Montreal preseason game in Chicago while visiting family. I think he got 3 penalties that night. Little did I know I was watching the forever future of my Habs.
Do a trade tree that starts with Trevor Linden being sent to the Islanders! Ended up bringing the Canucks so much value it’s insane
This
Yessssss 1000%
Then Mtl. Picked up Linden .
Name a trade with the islanders from that time that didn't end up being a gift to the other team !! the list is nearly endless = thanks Mad Mike
That 7th round pick that the Habs got in the Allen trade was shuffled around a few times before being reacquired by Montreal. First they sent it to Philidelphia in exchange for Erik Gustafsson, then the Flyers sent it to Arizona as part of the Shayne Gostisbehere trade, then Arizona sent it back to Montreal at the draft in exchange for Montreal's 2021 7th round pick.
Miguel Tourigny.
The best part about the end of this trade tree is that it means Dang-Its and "Steve's Paddle Save Emporium" are OPEN FOR BUSINESS as of tomorrow night!!!
Let's go boi!
GOALIES TEND THE GOAL
So Rohrer (picked at 75) and Tourigny (picked at 216) are the players selected with those 2022 draft picks, both retained by Montreal, and so their part of this tree is over (until they trade one of the SIX assets they now own from this tree - Jacob Leguerrier signed with Rockford in the AHL last season, though he only spent 4 games there before going to the ECHL - but Suzuki, Allen, Myšák and Norlinder are all still under Habs control, plus the two players selected this summer). And yet it spreads laterally, now that Debrincat is a Senator!
I loved Rivet when he was on the Sharks, and was upset when they traded him to the Sabres. I also loved watching him to play when I had Sharks season tix.
Bergervin messed a couple things up but his ability to produce trades like this are unmatched. Trades where he takes an aging player(s) and creates solid future for the team.
Bergevin didn't do the Craig Rivet trade. It was his predecessor Gainey (or Gauthier)
@@pixelj4877 well all the other trades were him (and were the important parts)
@@pixelj4877 but bergevin after he manage to keep alive the trade tree of Craig rivet!!
Where is ur logic???
these trade trees could benefit from a final summary list/diagram of "Total given" and Total received"
Still ongoing for MTL 👊
we should drafted lik mysak instead of jan mysak
Update: Norlinder is out this summer however the 3rd Round pick in 2022 is Adam Engstrom which is now a top prospect in the team
Jan Mysak got traded for Jacob Perreault former 1st round pick by the Ducks (AHL guy at best)
Jake Allen got traded for a conditional 3rd rounder in 2025
This tree will go on for a while
I had completely forgotten that the Habs left Price exposed in the expansion draft; Price going into Player Assitance could go a lot deeper than poeple think.
Iirc, Price asked to be put on the exposed list. In my opinion, it has more with price blaming himself for the playoff loss to Tampa (his interview was evident of that). I’d rather him take the time to get ready mentally now in contrast to Montreal possibly running another Roy esk goalie out of the city.
Price did it so Mtl. Could protect Allen
LeGuerrier left the Rocket and is with the IceHogs now. Habs relinquished his rights.
As a Sharks fan, I've been dreading this one since I first saw it suggested
I didn't even watch yet but I liked to say THANK YOU for finally doing it
Man what a crazy tree! Riv is so awesome, he was on the radio here in buffalo for a quite a few years. Need to see him do a podcast next
Hopefully there will be some more of these in the future
Wow, I wasn't expecting such a deep tree. Kinda crazy, especially when you're a Habs fan :)
I've been waiting years for this one.
I love to see mark messier from oilers to NY Rangers trade tree if not done needs to be done.
This one is great keep them coming
I'd love to see a tree for the Petr Sykora trade from the Devils to the Ducks in 2001
Suzuki just became Captain too. Damn.
Please show how acquiring Dan Boyle from Florida led to all 3 Tampa Cups.
Craig should come make those picks in Montreal
As a Sharks fan, I still like this trade at the time, Rivet was what we needed and was a great player, I just wished he could have stuck around!
You should do the Hossa,Heatley trade
Steve, please do the Chris Pronger-Brendan Shanahan 1 for 1 trade tree in 1995.
This trade tree should be updated now lol
Ive been waiting forever to see this trade tree on your channel. Thank you so much!
So I suppose that 2022 7th round pick was Miguel Tourigny and the 2022 3rd pick ended up being Vinzenz Rohrer? Not bad at all!
FINALLY. I was looking forward to this trade tree! Thanks guys
The 2010 2nd round pick to select Mark Alt was used by the Canes, not by San Jose. So the trade was that 2nd round pick for Wallin and a 5th. Doesn't change the tree in any way, but for accuracy, this was the trade, the Sharks didn't select Alt. I would have recognized him as a Sharks prospect at one point if he was. Funnily enough, he's now on the Barracuda, the Sharks' AHL team.
HUH This is very interesting I didn't realize this included the Jake Allen trade. Hated to see him go, but the Blues needed to build a young goalie talent. With Binner and Husso in net we have 2 goalies who will be around for a long time.
Binnington is already a stud but I see him being a top 5 or at least top 10 goalie in the league for a while. Loving Allen in Montreal though. It’s been a while since we had a good backup
one of the best trades ever made - I've asked for this as well - tks Steve
another banger
love the cheeky JJ reference
also, algorithm
thanks so much for these trade trees!
My Brain: "Dang-Its are coming back, I wonder what we'll see in the first episode of it"
The first goal of the season: "Here ya go."
The Bruins Barry Pederson trade tree is my favorite as a Bruins fan. Not only did Boston win the trade straight up getting Neely AND the 3rd overall pick which turned into Glen Wesley, but the trade tree is STILL growing today. When Wesley left, Boston got 3 draft picks, Kyle McLaren, Jonathan Aitken, and Sergei Samsonov. McLaren was traded for Jeff Jilson and Hacket, and Jilson was traded for Brad Boyes, who was swapped for Denis Wideman, who was traded for Nathan Horton and Gregory Campbell who helped Boston with the 2011 Stanley Cup. Samsonov went to Edmonton for Marty Reasoner, Yan Stastny, a 2nd rounder that turned into Milan Lucic. Lucic. Boston got Martin Jones, Colin Miller, Sean Kuraly, and a 1st, and then traded Jones for another 1st round pick. Boston drafted Jacub Zboril and Trent Frederick with the picks.
The tree when the Whalers acquired the pick for Pronger is one of the most ground breaking trees ever and definitely needs a video. It defined 5-6 franchises for a decade each, 4 of which acquired/drafted a future captain for multiple years! Please do it Steve 😁😁
Id like to see that
I am hoping to see in the future the trade that started the downfall of the Calgary Flames of the late 80’s/early 90’s. That trade of Doug Gilmour to the Toronto Maple Leafs.
A good trade tree can come out of any of the three major Killer trades
Watching this trade tree when Dangle is praising N. Suzuki and an alert came up about his resigning lol
You might be able to do a continuance on that trade tree!
The 3rd became Vincenz Rohrer,
The 7th got traded for Erik Gustafsson
Jake Allen got traded for a 3rd rounder (possibly 2nd) in 2025
Mysak got traded for Jacob Perreault.
Still ongoing, for your all-in-all pleasure!
The season is over I don't watch hockey that much but your trade tree videos are easily one of my favorite videos on RUclips no idea I would like them so much but their so interesting even tho I don't watch hockey please bring them back
Do the bill guerin trade tree between the bruins and the oilers that got them ales hemsky
So glad this trade tree was made!! I’ve been waiting awhile for it! Great work! Go Habs Go!
Talking about trading for a captain. Suzuki just became their captain.
Aight now do the Max Pacioretty tree!! 🙃 just kidding..! But WAOW that one was worth the wait!! Gotta say that at the time, Josh Gorges was one heckuva underrated defenseman. Often led the league in blocked shots. About that time, Jake Allen was playing in Montreal in the QMJHL, where he was basically a superstar. He was compared a lot to Carey Price, as a matter of fact. Never dreamt of seeing him in a Habs jersey back then! And finally, having Debrincat in Montreal would have been awesome, sure, but given all the rest, I don't know if I mind all that much.
Just an additional pointer, thank you for this awesome trade tree, and of course all of the others. If you need to brush up on some french, I would love to watch a game around a beer if ever you drop by Québec City. Awesome content buddy!!
Josh gorges was a warrior for the habs
@@mattkelly9516 NGL I ws lowkey mad when he got traded away. But hey, in the long run it was (and still is) somewhat worth it :)
8:31 me in my head everytime I see “Tomas Tatar” 😂
Nice work stevie
It's like at one point Buffalo looked at this original trade and said we need them both, and make one captain.
Please do the Sharks-Lightning Dan Boyle trade tree!
The Sharks got Dan Boyle and Erik Karlsson, while the Lightning got Matt Carle, Steve Downie, and the draft pick for Andrei Vasilevskiy.
EK65 and Vasilevskiy are one of their best players currently on each team, so it might be interesting!
The Vasilevskiy pick was Detroit's property
Yeah but i assume someone in there getsthe pick@@xlr0gd205
Awesome Work on this. Nice edit and content. Thumbs up
14:00 DeBrincat got traded 👀
Do the daymond langkow trade from the flyers. It can technically start back with Gratton. It still goes on for the flyers now. And I know you don’t normally do it, but if you branch out to a third team, it does lead to the blue jackets recent success too.
I loved Craig. He was quite of a tough customer. He was a true habs
Let’s go finnaly ! Needed this as a habs fan after all out injury news lol
Thank you Chicago. And thank you also for danault and Romanov in exchange of fleischman and weise…
I’m unsure how it would go, but I’d love Steve to discuss the Kirk Muller to MTL trade. Richer bounced back and forth between the Canadiens, Muller eventually went to Long Island…maybe not the longest trade tree, but lots of moving parts that resulted in Stanley Cups for BOTH teams involved within a few seasons of each other.
I beleive Tom Chorske and Rollie Melanson were also involved in that. Or maybe I'm going crazy because it just jumped in there ;)
Cheers from Montreal
Trade tree continues after the debrincat trade
You beat me to it.
Also, apparently Chicago hates their own players so they trade them for almost free.
Steve, you're great, love all of your content, these vids always bring a smile to my face and remind me of my lve of hockey. However, as a Sharks fan... PLEASE stop making us sad it's hard enough to be a Sharks fan in 2021 this isn't helping!
As a sharks fan just remember, as bad as we are we are not the saber's 🤣
do the Rivet trade again!!!
Trade Tree request- how the Flyers trading Patrick Sharp to Chicago cost them the 2010 Stanley Cup
Any way you can do the Mark Messier trade trade from Edmonton to New York?
Do the Trevor Linden Trade to the Islanders!!! It had huge impacts on both teams!!
I would like to see him do a video on The Rick Martin Trade Tree that one was pretty extensive
I miss this series.
Do the Ilya Sorokin trade tree
can i turn off the backgroun music, litreally driving me insane since i noticed it
When you trade a captain and get a future captain IN THE SAME DEAL....you did pretty good in the trade
A bit of a random comment. But I wanted to say that I appreciate you saying thank you in ASL by the end of every video ❤️
LETS GOOO THIS TRADE TREE STILL CONTINUES 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Craig comes from my hometown north bay Ontario. Classy guy
Ah yes, the Rivet trade, also known as the best trade in nhl history
If you’re bored (hah!) and want a trade tree suggestion, do the tree that sent Paul Coffey to the Penguins from the Oilers. Both teams made some serious hay from that one.
Suzuki resigns a day after this upload.
Thanks MB
The first tree with a former Kelowna Rocket in it !! Love these videos ! Keep planting trees
Here's a proposal for a trade tree video, the 1999 draft lunacy that involved FIVE teams, and the first four picks of the draft.
Steve: “I wasn’t smart! I’m not smart”
Me: “yeah……. Same”
_I love your exhaustive trade trees.🎯_
Those jump cuts are unprofessional.
Do a trade tree starts with the trade of Randy Carlyle Tor-Pit in 1978 . A lot of good players was acquired directly or no directly with this trade( K. Stevens, Kasparaitis, Barasso, Coffey, Tocchet, Robitaille, Nedved, Zubov, Fleury)
I have a trade tree idea!!!! This one is already becoming crazy and only happened 3 years ago. The Adam fox trade tree.
Do the Trevor Linden trade tree. It directly led the Canucks to pick Both Sedins and aquire Luongo. Plus there's the islanders side and Montreal side. I feel like this tree could be massive.
Thought this would be the Linden to NYI trade. Have to wait until next year for it.
Steve, LINDEN TO THE ISLES IN '98! As others have said, it is nuts the star power in the trade.
thanks for this trade tree !! i love those !
And Chicago has already given up Debrincat. Unbelievable lol
Steve! Do the Craig Rivet Trade! Right now! OR ELSE...wait. it's here?! Yes!
I never thought I'd be featured in a Steve Dangle video! WAOW!
Any interest in the Pronger/Shanahan trade tree? That 1995 trade led STL to Binnington and therefore a Cup…
I miss trade trees so much
Me too man
Even more now
And next the Luongo-Jokinen one?
The Marty St Louis trade that contributed to Tampa Bay's most successful era including: a no2 C, (indirectly) an influx of NYR players to the Tampa area and Cap Shenanigans.
Like Callahan, McDonagh, etc?
@@chainsherlock6268 Callahan was a key factor in Stralman and Boyle coming to Tampa with the 2015 cup run. The MacMiller trade came later.
Also Callahan was moved for Gaborik and Nilsson in the Cap Shenanigans of 2021
Cirelli pick was involved.
Stephens too I think.
Beauvillier and Ho Sang get mentions too.
Fondly remembering when Josh Gorges tried to fight Frazer McLaren while getting blown out by the Leafs, got laughed at by McLaren during the fight, and then cried in the dressing room afterward. Good stuff.
Of the 3 players who played more games than rivet 2 of them played for producer Drew’s avs
The Leafs could have had Matthews and Debrincat in the same draft. Pretty sure Dubas wanted to pick him.
I think you should do the Patrick Roy trade tree