I’m gonna add this too. I was the biggest Kyler defender till now. My dad would always say that he bad in all but I’d say we have to wait. It’s been 7 years. It’s time to move on unfortunately.
@@kXllerfortI think I’m with u bro. Been a Kyler fan since day 1. Always have him the benefit of doubt but I just don’t think he’s clutch enough for big games
No he’s a leader in the huddle it’s the fucking offense MH being a shit wr1 one of the worst I’ve ever seen for a hyped up wr. Better off with Malik. Murray played a clean game that play when he threw a pick was a punt regardless it was 3rd and long you goof. That pick just means nothing. It means nothing when we allow 36 to Carolina that’s fucking embarrassing. That’s the most Carolina has put all season long. Conner going down hurt us so bad he was cooking them on pace for a 200+ rushing game. Career game right there. Michael carter he’s speedy but he’s not good dude. This game was a fucking joke the refs sucking Bruce young that roughing call was a fucking joke. 7/80 yards in the 1sr quarter seriously?? And then there goes OT holding McBride like a bitch and refs don’t see it. It’s unbelievable.
No that fucking non called holding on defense on McBride the play before is absolutely ridiculous by the refs. So many shit calls against the cardinals.
Allowing Carolina to score 36 points is crazy. We can never win against Carolina even if they’re one of the worst teams in the NFL and we could never win a Christmas game like are we ever even going to make the playoffs and if we are are we making it like 2030 or something.
@zuko2938 last week or week before that I heard him criticize kylers voice fucking cracking... I been in his chat making him look dumb ever since.... I legit think he hates him cuz he's black or something
Stings??? really?? Saw this one coming from a mile away.... every time ...every f'n time we have a "must win" game to determine our fate .....we fall short!!! We screwed the pooch....AGAIN!
can't really disagree here. I had a bad feeling, but gave them the benefit of the doubt and clearly, that was a mistake, cause the Panthers own us still
@@MythicAZ Thanks for responding... this seasons team went into the bye with a full head of steam...motivation/momentum high and then came out flat. WTF happened during that week??? I factored in a couple of things for this loss. Our history against the Panthers, our history of choking at critical games and the overall play of the team since the bye week.
Thanks mythic for keeping this convo focused on the real issue with this loss, the lack of a defensive performance. Their performance in the ot’s last possession was embarrassing, it literally looked like they quit on the team as a unit. Without K1 we aren’t even in the position to try and win this game, and all fans want to do is blame him for the D’s failures. When Bryce young looks like a champ against you, that’s the D’s fault, not our qb’s. Even when K1 had time to throw there was no one open to throw to, and MHJ(Massively overly hyped junior) was an absolute non-factor in this game……again. This dude can’t play ball at the pro level.
@ people don’t want to believe it, that’s the issue. It’s easier to blame K1 because talking heads like Mike the Az sports fraud, Jonny from phnx, and others say K1 is the problem. If they dispute this notion they have to think for themselves, and they don’t want to. This was the most flawed 6-4 team I’ve seen. We won games yes, but not in sustainable manners. When it came to it this roster was closer to my prediction at the start of the season, a 6 win team, rather than the 9+ win team others were projecting. We were never a real playoff contender, or a threat to win the division; we won early via smoke, mirrors, and good fortune. It doesn’t help that our #4 overall pick plays ball like a udfa and is afraid of contact, has no heart, and makes marshmallows look hard.
Totally. Even if Kyler is not "the guy" long-term, allowing 36 to Carolina is inexcusable and not on him. Not only that, I watched him go through ALL of his reads multiple times and being forced to scramble or hit a check down. Our guys simply are not open. Is it talent? Scheme? Coaching? I don't know at this point, but picking up Kirk Cousins in the offseason instead of Kyler won't fix a thing. Kirk would absolutely get decimated behind our O line, especially when guys aren't getting open.
Whether they keep Kyler or let him go they to improve as a team. Teams like Baltimore are good on multiple levels defense, coach, offense, in game strategy is key
Our o line is shit, our wr aint getting separation cuz of petzings playcalling, kyler nonstop has 3 defenders behind our line chasing him, nd our fanbase thinks spamming connor until he gets injured is the answer to everything... best ppart of the game was watching az sports fan seething nd blaming kyler for everything instead of admitting our whole team is shit
Bro Conner was cooking those fools he had 116 when he got injured he was deadass gonna get 200+. If it ain’t broke done fix it keep running they have a horrible run defense. Should’ve given him breathers tho.
@jonathanayala2420 your last sentence is kinda my whole point... we spam tf outta him nd we do it every week until he has to come out the game.... with better playcalling he'd be doing the same numbers in a safer manner for him
@ he’s never came out of the game for 2 whole quarters as of recent dude he came out of the game because yea he got injured. Before he’d come out cs he was gassed. He literally got injured this time. It was unfortunate. But he was pounding the rock getting 10-15 a carry how are we not gonna spam him goofy.
@@jonathanayala2420 when did I say he came out for 2 whole quarters? And when did I specify what he came out the game for... you listing the why's just further proves my point... did you even read my comment or are you just trying to reply? Your acting like I'm knocking Connors gameplay when in all reality if you had any form of reading comprehension you'd understand that I'm saying a better oc would have him doing putting up Derrick Henry numbers nd would do it in a fashion he's not having to come out the game(for whatever tf reasons you listed)
I think we all know the Cardinals are not a playoff caliber team. Decent team when heathy but not a playoff team. With that said it would’ve been huge for the Franchise . My biggest problem is I lost faith in Kyler. I think he needs to go .
I still have that faith, but we over achieved and other teams under achieved, making the playoffs a very realistic thing, so when the Cardials folded, people act like we're a lost franchise. we had chances, but the lack of talent reared its ugly head, which I can't believe happened tbh lol. we shouldn't have lost this game and should still be in playoff contention, but here we are
In 7 years I don’t think I’ve ever seen Kyler smile on the sidelines or even coaching up the offense with leadership. I always see him with his head down even when winning
IF KURT WARNER WAS BEHIND OUR LINE HED BE SACKED 5+ TIMES A GAME, IF HE HAD OUR WRS HED AVERAGE 40 PASSING YARDS A GAME CUZ HED BE SACKED 5 TIMES BEFORE THEY MADE ANY SEPARATION
If we trade Kyler I’m gonna loose it he’s a good QB and isn’t the problem. We need a new OC and more talent. If we loose Kyler and get a rookie he isn’t gonna win games with this roster. Kyler is our future but nobody wants to believe it.
You are a MORON! Kyler Murray IS THE PROBLEM! He had two more TURNOVERS today which resulted in 14 points for Carolina! Just like his turnovers the previous 3 weeks! In overtime, he couldn’t move the Team past his own 25 yard line! GET RID OF HIM NOW! HE SUCKS!!!
@@__________5737 those interceptions come from being pressured and not having any separation by the wrs. Those picks are definitely on him but if we can get an upgraded line it should limit Murray’s picks and he will play a lot better
We did not take advantage of the Panthers’ horrible run defense, Petzing needs to go. I’m debating if Kyler should stay or go. The refs were ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE in the first half. Cardinals are frauds, and I can’t with it anymore. I’m glad we’re doing much better than 2022 and 2023, but the defense needs to be improved.
Dawg i was so mad i got james conner and trey mcbride like the first half wass terrible i felt like so many plays got called back like that 4th down james eaisley gets it but gets called back and james conner getting hurt was just cooked he brought yall back into that game
😂😂😂here we go with the Kyler sucks stuff. On TD no setting the edge delay of game penalty 8 penalties first half Marvin does not attack the ball but kylers fault So done with cardinal media and fans. Fan since St. Louis days
I've never been a Kyler fan, but I have been trying to like him more since his leadership has been getting better. But we never win the important games with him and I do not see us winning a SB with him. This loss does lie on the defense though. Honestly, being such a bad team for so many years isn't just on the players, this issue lies within ownership. We are the oldest and most losing franchise in the NFL. This is just crazy. But I do not see Bidwill"s selling soon so I feel like we will be stuck in mediocrity for a long time.
As a founding member of the "Kyler Murray is HIM" crew I am just disappointed We invested a top 5 pick in MHJ..Do we move on from K1 to see if a veteran QB can help him develop.
@@NinoVerse22 THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THAT PART BRO!!!! They thought MJH as a rookie was the end all be all for our rebuild nd would automatically put us in super bowl contention lmaooo they got the cardinals spirit but not the football knowledge
@@kimyona9746 I still think main concern is o line tho.... I don't think there's a qb besides Allen, Mahomet, nd lamar that would be successful behind our line or with our wrs nd kyler gotta deal with both lol
Nah you're blinded by your dislike of Kyler. Sure he is terrible, but the o line is awful too. If we get a positive play, it's called back for holding. You need to learn how to be fair@@scottpollack1007
the refs were so ass in that game, and they got so many scores out of it, we would've won if it wasn't for it. Also, horrid defence today. We will get third in the division, and if we draft an edge rusher and get a good wr, we will be a playoff team. If we don't get either of those, we will not make a run next year. I guess playing spoiler against the Rams could be fun. Kicker played well
I don’t understand how so many ppl think Kyler isn’t the problem. So many play calls look the same as kliffs due to the fact they gotta call plays to suit the qb. Kyler can’t deliver.. under throws, over throws, check downs, throwing in the middle of the field as a “throw away” leading to int’s.. I hope we draft a qb or bring in a veteran so Kyler sees that his job is in jeopardy. COD suits him best anyway
Bro stop your haitting. You lost and the better team won. I'm a panthers fan and I don't hate on bad teams or good teams that beat us. You lost and got eliminated!! GO PANTHERS, KEEP POUNDING!!!
My g u may not have watched the panthers lately but we’re not a bad team lost a lot of games by one score and I think we’re gonna be a lot more in sync next year
You keep saying "against the Carolina Panthers" as if we don't kick y'all ass every time we play. It doesn't matter if we're 3-11 or 15-1. We own property in Arizona.
@@MythicAZ damn must suck to have to take this crazy L from us, and go into another offseason with no hope of getting better. Just another long boring ass season for the league’s most boring team. We might be 4-11, but we’ve been competitive, and made sure y’all can plan a decent fishing trip in a few weeks. Show some gratitude to your landlords.
Stop talking about the referees lol you never know what game they’re gonna affect and it is what it is it happened to the Rams last year in the wildcard against Detroit every team in NFL history has benefited from referees and not benefited from referees
@@40EastTrill not really lame, because I said the defense played like buns and let Hubbard run all over us, but the officiating was horrendous, if you wanna take bias out of this
Where was all that Bryce Young ref love when he got smacked in the face? Or what was up with all of those pi calls on Jaycee Horn? The refs is what helped y'all go to overtime. Don't blame them. Y'all just suck as much as we do. And you know Carolina has owned y'all since 2015 😂
I have to add, if you thought K1 played well, then if AZ shopped him, some team would toss us a #1, but they wont, we would be lucky to get a third rounder.
Bryce young is on the come up, panthers are on the late turn around. It was a losing season to begi with.... What was every ones W/L projection? Seems to be pretty on point woth everyones expectations
Kyler did play decent, problem is you don't pay 50mil for decent. And yeah defense did suck, but the game was reset when it was sent to OT, and the defense held them, but the offense couldn't do a damn thing. Not all on Kyler though, Marvin needs to catch those balls.
If I hear one more person say, it’s the end of the kyler Murray era.. THAT IS IDIOTIC we were supposed to have 5 wins. We have 7 and the season isn’t even over, we are going above EXPECTATIONS, idiotic people.
I don't have anything else left to see or say. Deleted what I was saying. Be nice or say nothing at all. MAYBE next year? What I've been saying since we were the PHX Cardinals aka Cardiac Cardinals. Heads up Red Sea, Arch Manning 2026! If the Mannings will allow him here.
Kyler has a high floor and low ceiling he's better then the bottom 1/3 of the QBS in the league but he's not better then the other top half he's a borderline top 10qb he's at worst the 14th and best 8 also AZ sports fan was crapping on Kyler but this team is just young and undisciplined love Kyler idk that he's a franchise QB that can carry a team but his presence is definitely felt and we're a WAY WAY worse team without him also injuries haven't helped
Bro kyler is not the core problem. But hes simply not good enough. Thats coming from a guy who fought tooth and nail from when he started until the week we lost to Seattle. #ItSucksWeSuck With how bad our dept chart is we need like a josh allen or something
Groan!! This team isn't ready..... Can't beat a bad team.... Almost beats good teams... They are all over the place. 🤬🤬🤬. Wait till next year again! Guess I'll pull for the hometown Lions. F_ck!!! See you next year dude.
ngl.. you said the secondary you think is fine.. we have got to have the worst corners in the league.. I WAS AT THE GAME.. THEY CANNOT GUARD ANYBODY... SMB is the worst corner on the team.. but he is "supposed to be cb1".. there is no way he will be on this team or any nfl team next season.. the only time our corners get an interception is when the ball is tipped right to them.. we have been drafting corners for the past 3 seasons and the ONLY decent one is garret williams. and i mean he is decent.. no one knows him outside of cardinal fans.. we need a lockdown corner badly.. we will NEVER win a playoff game with this cornerback room.. max melton hasnt done anything, now he's a rookie whatever.. but hes been playing A LOTTT, and i havent seen any big plays made from him.. our corner room is soooo bad.. they sag off of WRs and just let them catch it. they never play the ball the right way, that back shoulder fade in the endzone to the panthers WR which resulted in a touchdown.. it was on 3rd and long, we get a stop there and maybe the game is over.. Adam theilen wide open in the endzone in the first half.. ALL THIS TEAM NEEDS for next season is.. 1 elite pass rusher (free agent signing) and 1 lockdown corner.. and kyler to play his best football next season.. and marvin to actually wake up and take notes from mcbride.. bro just nonchalant runs out there and thinks this is college.. like bro no.. attack the ball, show some gut, show some emotion.. bro is just like casually running and putting his hands out
Dude parsons and Garrett want to win so why in the qorld qould they sign with the cardinals and piss their careers away yall arent close you have a bottom 5 roster better luck next season
Mythic. I respect you but no. Please e don't tell me Kyler was good. Please don't try to say he's not the problem. Please don't blame anything on the refs. Have some respect man. Kyler was mediocre AT BEST. He was sub par when we needed him most. He's not going to lead us to anything great. Season is over. We need to move on smh.
Blaming the refs is wild. We just suck
two things are able to be true
@@MythicAZI was at the game, you’re not wrong Mythic, even Panthers fans were beefing with some of the calls. These refs suck… and so do the Cardinals
@@jakemoore1137i was there too, shit was sad, the first roughing the passer call one of the stadium staff members said it was a crazy call lmao
@@Fr_Yaxzo I was surprised to see the amount of red in the stands, but we still sold 😭
@ yeah, there was alot more then i thought aswell, i did expect less panthers fans tho since they’re playing for nothin lol
We are in a damn loop with this franchise for forever
Kyler Murray is not a leader. That’s all that needs to be said. (Also petzing is horrible too)
I’m gonna add this too. I was the biggest Kyler defender till now. My dad would always say that he bad in all but I’d say we have to wait. It’s been 7 years. It’s time to move on unfortunately.
@@kXllerfortI think I’m with u bro. Been a Kyler fan since day 1. Always have him the benefit of doubt but I just don’t think he’s clutch enough for big games
agreed on everything u said
No he’s a leader in the huddle it’s the fucking offense MH being a shit wr1 one of the worst I’ve ever seen for a hyped up wr. Better off with Malik. Murray played a clean game that play when he threw a pick was a punt regardless it was 3rd and long you goof. That pick just means nothing. It means nothing when we allow 36 to Carolina that’s fucking embarrassing. That’s the most Carolina has put all season long. Conner going down hurt us so bad he was cooking them on pace for a 200+ rushing game. Career game right there. Michael carter he’s speedy but he’s not good dude. This game was a fucking joke the refs sucking Bruce young that roughing call was a fucking joke. 7/80 yards in the 1sr quarter seriously?? And then there goes OT holding McBride like a bitch and refs don’t see it. It’s unbelievable.
@@kXllerfortyou act like he had 7 years of a competent front office backing him😂 bunch of casuals yall gotta be teenagers
That delay of game on 3rd and 5 with the game on the line is absolutely indefensible.
Kyler Murray’s fault too
No that fucking non called holding on defense on McBride the play before is absolutely ridiculous by the refs. So many shit calls against the cardinals.
Allowing Carolina to score 36 points is crazy. We can never win against Carolina even if they’re one of the worst teams in the NFL and we could never win a Christmas game like are we ever even going to make the playoffs and if we are are we making it like 2030 or something.
they always have our number. so crazy...
I want them to lose out now and get a higher draft pick. Petzing has got to go!!!!!!
I am so done, defense, offensive play calling, Kyler. I am upset. Also Marvin Harrison needs to catch some of these balls
Today is groundhog year for the Cardinals and us fans.
I can’t do this anymore
True Mythic. How many "must win game" opportunities does a team get and then BLOW ALL of them. But we had to go and lose to a 3-11 team
Saying Kyler played solid is crazy
I DONT TALK DEFENSE CUZ I DONT UNDERSTAND IT ENOUGH TO SPEAK CONFIDENTLY BUT I DO KNOW FOR SURE OUR RUN D IS AS EXISTENT AS OUR O LINE
BRO SAID EXACTLY WHAT GOT PUT ME IN TIMEOUT IN AZ SPORTS FANS CHAT "KYLER AINT THE PROBLEM" YEAH IM OFFICIALLY SUBBED
That dude you can tell doesn’t know sports like that I’ve heard him say some atrocious takes
@zuko2938 last week or week before that I heard him criticize kylers voice fucking cracking... I been in his chat making him look dumb ever since.... I legit think he hates him cuz he's black or something
@@wizaaard3028 Your a 🤡 six years and Kyler always chokes go hold his jock strap already you Kyler lover
Stings??? really?? Saw this one coming from a mile away.... every time ...every f'n time we have a "must win" game to determine our fate .....we fall short!!! We screwed the pooch....AGAIN!
can't really disagree here. I had a bad feeling, but gave them the benefit of the doubt and clearly, that was a mistake, cause the Panthers own us still
@@MythicAZ Thanks for responding... this seasons team went into the bye with a full head of steam...motivation/momentum high and then came out flat. WTF happened during that week??? I factored in a couple of things for this loss. Our history against the Panthers, our history of choking at critical games and the overall play of the team since the bye week.
This team is the Cowboys of the Nfc west
You have to win a bunch of super bowls and then be horrible for 30 years to get that title.
Thanks mythic for keeping this convo focused on the real issue with this loss, the lack of a defensive performance. Their performance in the ot’s last possession was embarrassing, it literally looked like they quit on the team as a unit.
Without K1 we aren’t even in the position to try and win this game, and all fans want to do is blame him for the D’s failures. When Bryce young looks like a champ against you, that’s the D’s fault, not our qb’s. Even when K1 had time to throw there was no one open to throw to, and MHJ(Massively overly hyped junior) was an absolute non-factor in this game……again. This dude can’t play ball at the pro level.
I can't belive people are blaming K1 lol! glad you see that too, our defense is buns rn
we get no sepereation and can't keep a clean pocket for him either. Kyler literally isn't the issue, but people don't get it
@ people don’t want to believe it, that’s the issue. It’s easier to blame K1 because talking heads like Mike the Az sports fraud, Jonny from phnx, and others say K1 is the problem. If they dispute this notion they have to think for themselves, and they don’t want to. This was the most flawed 6-4 team I’ve seen. We won games yes, but not in sustainable manners. When it came to it this roster was closer to my prediction at the start of the season, a 6 win team, rather than the 9+ win team others were projecting. We were never a real playoff contender, or a threat to win the division; we won early via smoke, mirrors, and good fortune. It doesn’t help that our #4 overall pick plays ball like a udfa and is afraid of contact, has no heart, and makes marshmallows look hard.
Totally. Even if Kyler is not "the guy" long-term, allowing 36 to Carolina is inexcusable and not on him.
Not only that, I watched him go through ALL of his reads multiple times and being forced to scramble or hit a check down. Our guys simply are not open. Is it talent? Scheme? Coaching? I don't know at this point, but picking up Kirk Cousins in the offseason instead of Kyler won't fix a thing. Kirk would absolutely get decimated behind our O line, especially when guys aren't getting open.
@ exactly
Nah we just have your number. I think we are 7-1 against you in the last 8 games.
y'all kill us every time, for whatever reason
Them refs sucked the first half. We still couldn’t do anything the second half. Weak qb play. Time for a new qb.
I completely missed the game. I’m glad I didn’t have to see that horsesh*t again😭😭😭
Whether they keep Kyler or let him go they to improve as a team. Teams like Baltimore are good on multiple levels defense, coach, offense, in game strategy is key
fs!!
It hurts.
Our o line is shit, our wr aint getting separation cuz of petzings playcalling, kyler nonstop has 3 defenders behind our line chasing him, nd our fanbase thinks spamming connor until he gets injured is the answer to everything... best ppart of the game was watching az sports fan seething nd blaming kyler for everything instead of admitting our whole team is shit
Bro Conner was cooking those fools he had 116 when he got injured he was deadass gonna get 200+. If it ain’t broke done fix it keep running they have a horrible run defense. Should’ve given him breathers tho.
@jonathanayala2420 your last sentence is kinda my whole point... we spam tf outta him nd we do it every week until he has to come out the game.... with better playcalling he'd be doing the same numbers in a safer manner for him
@ he’s never came out of the game for 2 whole quarters as of recent dude he came out of the game because yea he got injured. Before he’d come out cs he was gassed. He literally got injured this time. It was unfortunate. But he was pounding the rock getting 10-15 a carry how are we not gonna spam him goofy.
@@jonathanayala2420 when did I say he came out for 2 whole quarters? And when did I specify what he came out the game for... you listing the why's just further proves my point... did you even read my comment or are you just trying to reply? Your acting like I'm knocking Connors gameplay when in all reality if you had any form of reading comprehension you'd understand that I'm saying a better oc would have him doing putting up Derrick Henry numbers nd would do it in a fashion he's not having to come out the game(for whatever tf reasons you listed)
@@jonathanayala2420 goofy
Wow i get yall are mad and maybe kyler deserves some flack but geez man calm down yall😂 it was never our year
I think we all know the Cardinals are not a playoff caliber team. Decent team when heathy but not a playoff team. With that said it would’ve been huge for the Franchise . My biggest problem is I lost faith in Kyler. I think he needs to go .
I still have that faith, but we over achieved and other teams under achieved, making the playoffs a very realistic thing, so when the Cardials folded, people act like we're a lost franchise. we had chances, but the lack of talent reared its ugly head, which I can't believe happened tbh lol. we shouldn't have lost this game and should still be in playoff contention, but here we are
In 7 years I don’t think I’ve ever seen Kyler smile on the sidelines or even coaching up the offense with leadership.
I always see him with his head down even when winning
Pathetic. I hope michael bidwill sells the team.
IF KURT WARNER WAS BEHIND OUR LINE HED BE SACKED 5+ TIMES A GAME, IF HE HAD OUR WRS HED AVERAGE 40 PASSING YARDS A GAME CUZ HED BE SACKED 5 TIMES BEFORE THEY MADE ANY SEPARATION
There was some big plays we missed on bad play calling with some bad defense letting Hubbard run all over us. Unbelievable!
People blaming Kyler when he played a good game. He had 2-4 mistakes at most, not his fault his team is incompetent!
Is it salty?
Get Petzing outta here.
Blaming the refs is lame
I agree, but they played a HUGE factor in that first half
@@MythicAZNo they didn't. Fumbling the ball was a huge factor in the first half.
If we trade Kyler I’m gonna loose it he’s a good QB and isn’t the problem. We need a new OC and more talent. If we loose Kyler and get a rookie he isn’t gonna win games with this roster. Kyler is our future but nobody wants to believe it.
You are a MORON! Kyler Murray IS THE PROBLEM! He had two more TURNOVERS today which resulted in 14 points for Carolina! Just like his turnovers the previous 3 weeks! In overtime, he couldn’t move the Team past his own 25 yard line! GET RID OF HIM NOW! HE SUCKS!!!
People are dumb but tbh if we trade Kyler we better not get a rookie qb I wanted Russel Wilson and look at him now
Kyler’s horrible interceptions were instrumental in our post bye failure. He ain’t alone but no one would trade for him.
@@__________5737 those interceptions come from being pressured and not having any separation by the wrs. Those picks are definitely on him but if we can get an upgraded line it should limit Murray’s picks and he will play a lot better
@ you cannot throw those balls as a franchise QB regardless
We did not take advantage of the Panthers’ horrible run defense, Petzing needs to go. I’m debating if Kyler should stay or go. The refs were ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE in the first half. Cardinals are frauds, and I can’t with it anymore. I’m glad we’re doing much better than 2022 and 2023, but the defense needs to be improved.
fax!
Put tune in for the remainder of the season
Dawg i was so mad i got james conner and trey mcbride like the first half wass terrible i felt like so many plays got called back like that 4th down james eaisley gets it but gets called back and james conner getting hurt was just cooked he brought yall back into that game
😂😂😂here we go with the Kyler sucks stuff. On TD no setting the edge delay of game penalty 8 penalties first half Marvin does not attack the ball but kylers fault
So done with cardinal media and fans. Fan since St. Louis days
Too many injuries
still should be able to overcome those, but injuries hurt us fs
Other than Conner, Chad balled out. Nailed a hard kick to keep the season alive. He's a keeper
I've never been a Kyler fan, but I have been trying to like him more since his leadership has been getting better. But we never win the important games with him and I do not see us winning a SB with him. This loss does lie on the defense though. Honestly, being such a bad team for so many years isn't just on the players, this issue lies within ownership. We are the oldest and most losing franchise in the NFL. This is just crazy. But I do not see Bidwill"s selling soon so I feel like we will be stuck in mediocrity for a long time.
We might be sorry but yall will be joining us in Cancun 😂😂
yes we will 🤝🏼🔥
believed in k1, but he has issues
Great job Panthers!!
As a founding member of the "Kyler Murray is HIM" crew
I am just disappointed
We invested a top 5 pick in MHJ..Do we move on from K1 to see if a veteran QB can help him develop.
You know its a issue when James conner is the star player on our team. Not saying hes bad but hes not top 5 rbs
Hey everyone it’s ok, watch Kyler gonna have his breakout season in year 7😂😂
For all the so called cards fans, womp womp. We are in the 2nd year of a rebuild. If we double our win total, how can we be mad really?
@@NinoVerse22 THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THAT PART BRO!!!! They thought MJH as a rookie was the end all be all for our rebuild nd would automatically put us in super bowl contention lmaooo they got the cardinals spirit but not the football knowledge
always has been a 3 year rebuild!
@@wizaaard3028 high key Monti has to get aggressive tho. Get an absolute BALLER on the edge.
@@kimyona9746 I believe in Monti more then any other gm we've had in my life time
@@kimyona9746 I still think main concern is o line tho.... I don't think there's a qb besides Allen, Mahomet, nd lamar that would be successful behind our line or with our wrs nd kyler gotta deal with both lol
bye bye to kyler and petzing...kyler could be a good qb if we had a lights out defense
Kyler isn't goin anywhere
We can't forget about Paris Johnson Jr that guy to protect Kyler murray to so o-line let's us down 😭 man i hate refs
The Offensive line DID NOT LET US DOWN! Kyler Murray did AS USUAL! HE SUCKS! GET RID OF HIM NOW!
@scottpollack1007 You sure that on Kyler not the referee or drew petzing
Nah you're blinded by your dislike of Kyler. Sure he is terrible, but the o line is awful too. If we get a positive play, it's called back for holding. You need to learn how to be fair@@scottpollack1007
the refs were so ass in that game, and they got so many scores out of it, we would've won if it wasn't for it. Also, horrid defence today.
We will get third in the division, and if we draft an edge rusher and get a good wr, we will be a playoff team. If we don't get either of those, we will not make a run next year. I guess playing spoiler against the Rams could be fun. Kicker played well
Waaaa you guys always get owned by the panthers and always choke away important games but yeah go ahead and blame the refs 😆
Stop with the bs! The refs is what got y'all to overtime. Such a lame thing to do when it's really something else.
K1 is not good. He's not trash but you're blind if you think he is the answer for the franchise. Ben saying it for years already.
Did you see what trey mcbride said after the game?
The penalties were ridiculous, they didn't even show replays of them! Plus Conner getting injured in 2nd half helped Panthers a lot.
WORST PART IS OUR TEAM HAS THE POTENTIAL BUT THE NOT THE OC OR THE LINE TO BE SUCCESSFUL
true!
I don’t understand how so many ppl think Kyler isn’t the problem. So many play calls look the same as kliffs due to the fact they gotta call plays to suit the qb. Kyler can’t deliver.. under throws, over throws, check downs, throwing in the middle of the field as a “throw away” leading to int’s.. I hope we draft a qb or bring in a veteran so Kyler sees that his job is in jeopardy. COD suits him best anyway
I will always hate the panthers with a passion since 2014
Bro stop your haitting. You lost and the better team won. I'm a panthers fan and I don't hate on bad teams or good teams that beat us. You lost and got eliminated!! GO PANTHERS, KEEP POUNDING!!!
My g u may not have watched the panthers lately but we’re not a bad team lost a lot of games by one score and I think we’re gonna be a lot more in sync next year
You keep saying "against the Carolina Panthers" as if we don't kick y'all ass every time we play. It doesn't matter if we're 3-11 or 15-1. We own property in Arizona.
doesn't matter, bc y'all are still 4-11. we shouldn't have lost
two things can be true...
@@MythicAZ damn must suck to have to take this crazy L from us, and go into another offseason with no hope of getting better. Just another long boring ass season for the league’s most boring team. We might be 4-11, but we’ve been competitive, and made sure y’all can plan a decent fishing trip in a few weeks. Show some gratitude to your landlords.
@@MythicAZIf you shouldn't have lost then you wouldn't have lost. In that case we should've beat the Chiefs, Eagles and Bucs.
Stop talking about the referees lol you never know what game they’re gonna affect and it is what it is it happened to the Rams last year in the wildcard against Detroit every team in NFL history has benefited from referees and not benefited from referees
brother, that was the WORST officiated game I've seen in a while. I hate blaming refs, but holy... they played a huge factor
@@MythicAZLame. Blame your team
@@40EastTrill not really lame, because I said the defense played like buns and let Hubbard run all over us, but the officiating was horrendous, if you wanna take bias out of this
Where was all that Bryce Young ref love when he got smacked in the face? Or what was up with all of those pi calls on Jaycee Horn? The refs is what helped y'all go to overtime. Don't blame them. Y'all just suck as much as we do. And you know Carolina has owned y'all since 2015 😂
Panthers fan here I notice from Kyler’s body language he was either hurt or he not wanted to be there and wanted to get it over it
probably frustrated and rightfully so. he's not the only one who's upset either
GG's to you guys tho! Much love
blaming the refs for a 4-11 team is INSANE lmaooo
We had so many chances to win the division and we lost every time. It'll be the same until Kyler retirement.
That throw from Murray still frustrates me. You had Mcbride wide open!!!
I have to add, if you thought K1 played well, then if AZ shopped him, some team would toss us a #1, but they wont, we would be lucky to get a third rounder.
Bryce young is on the come up, panthers are on the late turn around. It was a losing season to begi with.... What was every ones W/L projection? Seems to be pretty on point woth everyones expectations
Kyler did play decent, problem is you don't pay 50mil for decent. And yeah defense did suck, but the game was reset when it was sent to OT, and the defense held them, but the offense couldn't do a damn thing.
Not all on Kyler though, Marvin needs to catch those balls.
i usually like to keep my cool game wise, but this one struck a nerve in me. #FIREPETZING
Arizona needs to go out and hire BEN JOHSON THE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR FOR THE DETROIT LIONS as head coach
The Panthers are better than 3-11 just saying, Hubbard is a dawg too, he has balled all year. Carolina should have like 6 or 7 wins right now
We are so pathetic blaim on the referee's are you serious! Murray is sucks OVERRATED!!! we are screwed
If I hear one more person say, it’s the end of the kyler Murray era.. THAT IS IDIOTIC we were supposed to have 5 wins. We have 7 and the season isn’t even over, we are going above EXPECTATIONS, idiotic people.
Have you seen Jayden Daniel’s and even Bryce Young smiling even while getting sacked they out there having fun
K1 is the core problem been 6 years come on
I don't have anything else left to see or say. Deleted what I was saying. Be nice or say nothing at all. MAYBE next year? What I've been saying since we were the PHX Cardinals aka Cardiac Cardinals. Heads up Red Sea, Arch Manning 2026! If the Mannings will allow him here.
Kyler’s my guy but let’s just say he’s lucky this qb class isn’t very good…
Kyler has a high floor and low ceiling he's better then the bottom 1/3 of the QBS in the league but he's not better then the other top half he's a borderline top 10qb he's at worst the 14th and best 8 also AZ sports fan was crapping on Kyler but this team is just young and undisciplined love Kyler idk that he's a franchise QB that can carry a team but his presence is definitely felt and we're a WAY WAY worse team without him also injuries haven't helped
How'd Arizona lose😭😭
Kyler sucks…
We need to pick up Justin Fields or Kirk Cousins.
109 tdz, 54 int. Not worth 125millon
When are we getting a new OC? lol
Az needs a run stopping DT bad
You are simply wrong about Kyler. His history shows that when the game has playoff implications, Kyler plays like garbage. It’s time to move on.
Panthers own the cardinals let's be real.
I’m just saying if we make the playoffs and lose you guys we’re going to blame k1 for the loss anyways
cardinals losing to a shitty panthers team? what a surprise....
Bro kyler is not the core problem. But hes simply not good enough. Thats coming from a guy who fought tooth and nail from when he started until the week we lost to Seattle. #ItSucksWeSuck
With how bad our dept chart is we need like a josh allen or something
k 1sucks dude
I disagree...
The Arizona Cardinals need to trade Kyler Murray
Sorry, but K1 has not matured. He cant see open receivers, when he does he throws late, pick 6. K1 is trash.
Groan!! This team isn't ready..... Can't beat a bad team.... Almost beats good teams... They are all over the place. 🤬🤬🤬. Wait till next year again! Guess I'll pull for the hometown Lions. F_ck!!! See you next year dude.
these are the cardinals i know
ngl.. you said the secondary you think is fine.. we have got to have the worst corners in the league.. I WAS AT THE GAME.. THEY CANNOT GUARD ANYBODY... SMB is the worst corner on the team.. but he is "supposed to be cb1".. there is no way he will be on this team or any nfl team next season.. the only time our corners get an interception is when the ball is tipped right to them.. we have been drafting corners for the past 3 seasons and the ONLY decent one is garret williams. and i mean he is decent.. no one knows him outside of cardinal fans.. we need a lockdown corner badly.. we will NEVER win a playoff game with this cornerback room.. max melton hasnt done anything, now he's a rookie whatever.. but hes been playing A LOTTT, and i havent seen any big plays made from him.. our corner room is soooo bad.. they sag off of WRs and just let them catch it. they never play the ball the right way, that back shoulder fade in the endzone to the panthers WR which resulted in a touchdown.. it was on 3rd and long, we get a stop there and maybe the game is over.. Adam theilen wide open in the endzone in the first half.. ALL THIS TEAM NEEDS for next season is.. 1 elite pass rusher (free agent signing) and 1 lockdown corner.. and kyler to play his best football next season.. and marvin to actually wake up and take notes from mcbride.. bro just nonchalant runs out there and thinks this is college.. like bro no.. attack the ball, show some gut, show some emotion.. bro is just like casually running and putting his hands out
Dude parsons and Garrett want to win so why in the qorld qould they sign with the cardinals and piss their careers away yall arent close you have a bottom 5 roster better luck next season
Sounds like you need a Waaambulance.
Mythic. I respect you but no. Please e don't tell me Kyler was good. Please don't try to say he's not the problem. Please don't blame anything on the refs. Have some respect man. Kyler was mediocre AT BEST. He was sub par when we needed him most. He's not going to lead us to anything great. Season is over. We need to move on smh.
Your OC sucks , such a basic offense that doesnt utilze a lot of your players skills.
Stop blaming refs.. Cardinals suck kyler suckz coming from a season ticket holder worst decision of my life money gone to the drain.. 💩