Pull-ups vs Chin-ups: The Big Difference

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  • Опубликовано: 19 май 2023
  • Pull-ups and chin-ups are functional upper-body exercises that build strength in your arms, shoulders, core and back through one pulling movement. But the way chin-ups and pull-ups differ is down to grip, which means how they target your muscles varies, too. In this video, we will cover the key differences between pull-ups and chin-ups, which muscles they target and the benefits of both.
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  • @sayncevizoglu1057
    @sayncevizoglu1057 9 месяцев назад +511

    according to Mike Mentzer, close grip chin up is by far the best biceps exercise. Its much better than ANY of the curl movements because biceps is a 2 joint muscle and curls only activates lower part of biceps whereas chin ups activate both lower part and shoulder connection of biceps.
    old but gold.

    • @jackcarpenters3759
      @jackcarpenters3759 8 месяцев назад +13

      yes narrow grip chin up was best in overal emg in a study. It also works your pecs!

    • @reconstructionwouldhavesav9472
      @reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 8 месяцев назад +13

      It sucks for actual bicep mass

    • @jackcarpenters3759
      @jackcarpenters3759 8 месяцев назад +11

      @@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472No, but there are 2 ways to even increase more according to studies: Do a biceps exercise afterwards, especially concentration curl. Or do instead of the narrow grip chinup the pull where your head goes alternating left/right of the bar, where your grip is like playing a trumpet. It had biggest biceps emg.

    • @miquebts
      @miquebts 8 месяцев назад

      He was lying, chin ups are for lats

    • @doninbaras
      @doninbaras 8 месяцев назад +4

      Mentzer also recommended chin ups and chin-grip pulldowns for the lats

  • @cas2985
    @cas2985 6 месяцев назад +74

    Pull ups are more functional. You wouldn’t climb up onto a ledge using an underhand grip.

    • @bxnxjmin
      @bxnxjmin Месяц назад +25

      how often are you climbing ledges that this is a consideration? lol

    • @revinhomerescamposano2654
      @revinhomerescamposano2654 Месяц назад +2

      I think you punch better with pull ups

    • @superbigidiot
      @superbigidiot Месяц назад +2

      I feel like underhand grips are fairly useful when climbing overhangs that require compressions though.

    • @j.m.w.5064
      @j.m.w.5064 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@bxnxjmin how often do you need to peek over a bar? lol
      🙄

    • @jackcylow
      @jackcylow Месяц назад +2

      But chin ups make me perform my shoryuken better.

  • @Rahilda
    @Rahilda Месяц назад +57

    Pull ups not being "as heavy or tiring" is completely false. Your biceps are at a mechanical disadvantage with an overhand grip. Pullups are absolutely harder to do than chin ups. Your video is bad info.

    • @Nev91280
      @Nev91280 Месяц назад +2

      Oh yeah and you're an expert im guessing you have a degree in fitness

    • @Rahilda
      @Rahilda Месяц назад

      @Nev91280 What if I did? Would that change anything? The point is, even the most basic understanding of human physiology and anatomy tells you that chin ups are easier. Don't believe me? Go do some chin ups and then pull ups and tell me which one was easier and which you could do more reps of. It's going to be chin ups, jackass lol

    • @Nicolas-fb6pu
      @Nicolas-fb6pu Месяц назад +13

      ​@@Nev91280common sense, bud!

    • @maiden5427
      @maiden5427 Месяц назад

      ​@@Nev91280Lat pull down machines exist for a reason. Never heard of a chin pull up machine.

    • @SchrodingersMath
      @SchrodingersMath 22 дня назад

      A neutral grip...produces less Torque and stress on the biceps...better if you want to avoid injury

  • @davepazz580
    @davepazz580 Год назад +42

    Pull-ups using gymnastics ring... starting with a pull-up grip at the bottom of the rep, then rotating the hands while ascending until you end up in a chin-up grip at the top of the rep.

  • @PeacePham1991
    @PeacePham1991 5 месяцев назад +12

    Chin-ups do work on your abs as well. When I was in high school, I got 6 packs from doing chin ups

  • @user-gd7fx4jf5c
    @user-gd7fx4jf5c 8 месяцев назад +77

    You cannot go wrong alternating between both pull ups and chin ups, throw some Dips and push-ups to the mix and that’s going to be a beautiful thing when you start a push - pull program doing body weight exercises ⚡️

    • @igorkonforovich3497
      @igorkonforovich3497 8 месяцев назад +3

      Dips are terrible both for shoulder and wrist joints, throw them as far away as possible.

    • @thedanyxcz4892
      @thedanyxcz4892 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@igorkonforovich3497tf.. nah

    • @razikazmi6840
      @razikazmi6840 8 месяцев назад

      @@igorkonforovich3497i thought they help shoulders if u get form down? Idk abt wrist tho

    • @v01d_r34l1ty
      @v01d_r34l1ty 8 месяцев назад

      @@igorkonforovich3497how?

    • @francisco77220
      @francisco77220 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@igorkonforovich3497no man, it'all about mobility. Dips are fundamental

  • @Ex0dus111
    @Ex0dus111 8 месяцев назад +64

    Hopefully absolutely no one takes this seriously.
    The Pull Ups are a back building exercise that unlocks the lats, like no other exercise can. This is ESSENTIAL for a full body program to keep your physique balanced.
    Venturing into the harder pull ups, like wide grip and archers, is the best way to ensure a strong a functional back.
    Yes, Chin Ups are a good biceps exercise, but so are lots of other exercises.

    • @until3am
      @until3am 8 месяцев назад +7

      Exactly

    • @mikaelbentley9870
      @mikaelbentley9870 8 месяцев назад +16

      Pull ups also translate into getting onto an object. Chin ups are cool, but I haven’t figured out how to punch through a wall to obtain a grip to do chin ups onto a roof or fence.

    • @monkemode8128
      @monkemode8128 8 месяцев назад

      @@mikaelbentley9870 strength is strength. From only training chin ups and now weighted chin ups I went from having a pull up 1RM of +10 lbs to now +65 lbs. They're very similar, building strength in one is going to build strength in the other. It's like leg press and squats, someone who squats 500 lbs is going to be a strong leg presser regardless of it they train on the leg press consistently.

    • @jericho-tube
      @jericho-tube 7 месяцев назад

      ​​@@mikaelbentley9870why you want to jump over the fence ? Only monkey does that 😂😂😂. Are you planning to steal or what ? 😂. These youtube kids are insane 😂

    • @jericho-tube
      @jericho-tube 7 месяцев назад +2

      Stong and functional back ? Chin ups will also keep yr back functional, your back won's break while walking on the street 😂

  • @eric669
    @eric669 Год назад +433

    I alternate them in the gym, both adding weight to my belt. I can do 7 or 8 reps in my first set of both variations with a 20Kg plate added to my bodyweight. Not bad for 54!

    • @fit_4ever
      @fit_4ever  Год назад +10

      👏

    • @irishmick6709
      @irishmick6709 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@freespeech4023….I've got one for you! My latest routine ( once or twice a week) is to perform 150 pullups/ chins/ mixed grip in under 20 minutes (18 minutes even just yesterday) just body weight though - 180 pounds 70 years young!

    • @Sezam3k
      @Sezam3k 9 месяцев назад +11

      @@freespeech4023 and I can do 100 push ups with you and your weights on my back 😂

    • @freespeech4023
      @freespeech4023 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Sezam3k 😂

    • @randomscandinavian6094
      @randomscandinavian6094 9 месяцев назад +10

      I’m also 54 and I’m nowhere near being able to do one pull-up. Been training specifically for that now, a few times a week for 3/4 of a year. 😂

  • @jimmyjustright1609
    @jimmyjustright1609 8 месяцев назад +94

    It depends on what your goals are. I do weighted, wide pull ups and have noticed significant growth in my lats. I only do chins when I also want to target my biceps during a back set. Time is important, so I'm always incorporating supersets or more during a workout.

    • @jimmyjustright1609
      @jimmyjustright1609 8 месяцев назад +4

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    • @mjollnirjc
      @mjollnirjc 8 месяцев назад +1

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    • @jimmyjustright1609
      @jimmyjustright1609 8 месяцев назад +3

      @mjollnirjc because we all fall short of God's glory. All men are fallible and unless we accept Christ we cannot have a relationship with our Creator. We're called to surrender to our Lord. My will has and always will fail me. I chose to surrender my will to the Father's daily. It is a choice. Will you continue doing what you've always done and maybe find worldy success or will you surrender your will to your Creators who'll bless you for eternity. All men, No matter how successful you think they are have failed themselves and others and always will. There's only one who is perfect.

    • @1saadx
      @1saadx 8 месяцев назад

      God never had a son - Jesus christ was a man and a prophet - and if he ever decided to have one why do you think He would choose a weak human race instead of creating a mighty being or an angel?@@thetej2227

    • @theironsheik6322
      @theironsheik6322 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@thetej2227 Austin 3:16 said I just whipped your ass!

  • @noosphericaltarzan
    @noosphericaltarzan 8 месяцев назад +37

    When I trained calisthenics, I started with pull ups and finished with chin ups. Really: wide grip pull ups, standard pull ups, chin ups, narrow grip chin ups (by then it’s like three reps per set). They are all great, but if I only did one, it was a chin up.

    • @vidalbalkaran3691
      @vidalbalkaran3691 8 месяцев назад

      especially if done on gymnastic rings

    • @SolidestAutumn
      @SolidestAutumn 8 месяцев назад

      Did your biceps grow a lot with Chin-ups?

    • @noosphericaltarzan
      @noosphericaltarzan 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@SolidestAutumn A bit. Not like what happened from constantly cleaning weights in Olympic weightlifting and kettlebell sport. If I wanted to target biceps for hypertrophy using calisthenics, I would combine false grip chin ups (with isometric) holds and things like high rep pelican curls.

    • @SDPSacramento
      @SDPSacramento Месяц назад

      Hey, I have a question how do you still have the strength to do all that?

    • @noosphericaltarzan
      @noosphericaltarzan Месяц назад

      @@SDPSacramento One or the other.

  • @luv4tig
    @luv4tig 10 месяцев назад +46

    I had only did pull ups in the past. But decided to also add an equal set of chin ups to build the biceps and eliminate curls. I do weighted sets for pull ups and chin ups.

    • @grippler3166
      @grippler3166 9 месяцев назад +1

      Do you notice more gains with the chin ups?

    • @MarcoAshford
      @MarcoAshford 9 месяцев назад

      @@grippler3166I noticed my bicep blows up in size. Just doing 4 sets of 5 slow and controlled rep

    • @noweare1
      @noweare1 8 месяцев назад +11

      I use my fat belly for the weights.

    • @johand3004
      @johand3004 6 месяцев назад +2

      Eliminating curls is stupid. Don’t reinvent the wheel

    • @jonmoris9354
      @jonmoris9354 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@johand3004why not curls are not needed

  • @baronmeduse
    @baronmeduse 9 месяцев назад +33

    Better for what? Since it is primarily considered a back exercise and clearly hits the back more, pull ups are the best exercise for that. In chins your arms can exhaust far more quickly than your back will so that the exercise peters out before the back is ever anywhere near failure. Making it more like an overblown exercise for biceps and a moderate exercise for the back/core. Doing pull ups and then taking biceps immediately to failure with a curl gets you the entire thing. Pull-ups are better.

  • @Jaye-dd8dg
    @Jaye-dd8dg 9 месяцев назад +42

    both pull ups and chin ups should be in your routine as well as the neutral grip variation... you can build a well developed back/shoulders/chest/arms/core using these 3 exercises alone; master them and you'll build a strength that will translate positively to every lift in the gym - neglect them and you'll likely never even bench 2 plates.

    • @okdac2559
      @okdac2559 8 месяцев назад +2

      How pull ups and chin ups improve chest?

    • @dantemustson
      @dantemustson 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@okdac2559 benching is not only a Chest/tricep excerise. It engages lats, core to stabilize. Strong posterior chain allows you to arch better and more stable. Also strong quads will give you a leg drive

    • @topman6727
      @topman6727 8 месяцев назад +2

      I can go weeks and months without doing chins or pulls and bench 100kg 😮

    • @Ahrone1586
      @Ahrone1586 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@topman6727thats not the point xd

    • @shinigami9859
      @shinigami9859 8 месяцев назад +1

      I know plently of people who bench for more than 225 who don't train them lmao.... tf u on

  • @Fitness4London
    @Fitness4London 7 месяцев назад +6

    Both are great to incorporate into your workouts.

  • @7msjster
    @7msjster Месяц назад +3

    I'm female, almost 69 and fit! listen to your body...i began my pullup journey doing narrow grip, palms facing. It was easy on my shoulder. As I got stronger, I started changing the width and the angle... I'm now doing Lhangs with pullups, over and underhand grip! I hang or pull myself on anything I find and just do a few. I even go to a couple of playgrounds where I am the grandma doing the monkey bars! Just do it!

  • @maulekuul
    @maulekuul 8 месяцев назад +33

    I've actually been doing mixed grip sets with one palm forward, one palm backward, and alternating sides each set. It feels like a nice balance and a very natural motion, like climbing a tree. You wouldn't pull your body weight up to a branch in a pull-up or chin-up style. You'd wrap your hands around the branch with a mixed grip.

    • @iangraham-white5717
      @iangraham-white5717 8 месяцев назад +3

      I would because I can do multiple sets of 8-12 weighted pull-ups

    • @maulekuul
      @maulekuul 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@iangraham-white5717 I guess you are extra special

    • @austintorrence5400
      @austintorrence5400 6 месяцев назад +3

      Crazy thing is a guy that works out at the job was just telling me thats how he do his pull ups.
      I said I have to try it.

  • @charlieparkeris
    @charlieparkeris 7 месяцев назад +8

    I do pull-ups as my first exercise every workout. I might start alternating with chins.
    Honestly, I started doing pull-ups after I saw a guy doing them in the gym, and it looked really impressive, so I wanted to get good at them, so I could look impressive too. 😆
    I do think pull-ups look more impressive.

  • @asprinklingofclouds
    @asprinklingofclouds 8 месяцев назад +14

    Pull ups are better for posture, they reinforce the shoulders back cue and involve the traps /rear delts more . Chin ups sacrifice that with more chest (and of course bicep) activity. Too many people, including some fitness influencers, have a hunched over posture and pull ups are one weapon in your armoury to help correct that.

    • @fit_4ever
      @fit_4ever  8 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, are right. pull ups are better for posture

  • @SCALES1992
    @SCALES1992 8 месяцев назад +4

    Great core activation as well especially if you maintain a straight posture while performing the movements.

    • @ramon3077
      @ramon3077 7 месяцев назад

      Used to be fat, got incredibly solid abs from doing hollowbody chins over the years. Highly recommended for this.

  • @drmitofit2673
    @drmitofit2673 9 месяцев назад +16

    I use the padded grip perpendicular extensions on my doorway pull up bar for a midway "neutral" grip. I feel that it distributes the effort between the biceps, lats, pecs, and back. I am into high rep pull ups and can do 100 in two sets, such as 51+49 or 52+48 with 4 minutes rest in between. This requires intense cardio training on a bicycle, deep breathing to the point of hyperventilation, and pre-workout super beet chews. It's all about blood flow at high reps. For completeness, I also do feet on bench push ups , plank ring rows, and ab roller crunches.

    • @chrisw5742
      @chrisw5742 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@thetej2227 Hail Odin

    • @ZyroSugar
      @ZyroSugar 6 месяцев назад

      51 pull ups in one set? No way you’re locking out and chin above the bar using no momentum

    • @drmitofit2673
      @drmitofit2673 6 месяцев назад

      @@ZyroSugar The world record is 651 pull ups, so why would my relatively puny numbers be out of the realm of possibility? My workout wouldn't even be that dude's warm up routine. I have since given up on two sets because it didn't really get me out of my fitness plateau and the only advantage was the bragging point of 100 pull ups in two sets. I have since moved on to single set pull ups with a 20 lbs weighted vest (as well as all of my other single set calisthenics with the same weighted vest). I feel like there are fewer garbage reps and with fewer reps and single sets, it's much easier to find time to work out. Started at 40 pull ups with weighted vest and gradually worked my way up to 50 pull ups with 20 lbs weighted vest, personal best. Then for the next work out I attempted a body weight pull up personal best. Without the added weight, it's like I am flying up with minimal effort. In fact for the first 20-25 pull ups the hand grip pressure drops to zero as my chin goes over the bar. This allows a split second of blood flow and micro rest to the muscles at the top of the pull. Some pull up competitors rest by hanging at the bottom but this is too uncomfortable to me, personally. I like to get the set over, ASAP. In my experience it is people stuck at low rep pull ups that cheat the range of motion, not high rep competitors. I am not doing the body flex or kipping method, so no momentum there. One trick it to look up the whole time so that your chin is already high and you are not cranking your neck into extension with each pull. Also, my neutral grip allows more pectoralis activation so I can pull my chest up to the bar (beyond the mere chin up). Another trick is to go to full arm extension at the bottom and use the reflex muscle tension stretch/bounce to come out of the bottom. I use full range of motion this way, but lingering at the bottom does you no good at all. So with the weighted vest single set up ups< I was able to bust through my previous fitness plateau and I was finally able to achieve my fitness goal of 60 body weight pull ups to match my age. Now I just have to get to 61 within a year.

    • @chrisw5742
      @chrisw5742 6 месяцев назад

      @@drmitofit2673 hmmm I have a pacemaker with a bad heart and had my whole neck fused front and back. Had some of the back muscles cut. I do workout though but I would be lucky to do 10 pullups. :-P

    • @ZyroSugar
      @ZyroSugar 6 месяцев назад

      @@drmitofit2673 well that’s incredibly impressive, the most I’ve seen someone to pull ups on a row is like 40. how did you train to get there? Also how do you breath correctly doing so many reps? What’s your Push ups dips record as well if u don’t mind me asking.

  • @sylvesterhurt447
    @sylvesterhurt447 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great vid💪🏿

  • @mishkosimonovski23
    @mishkosimonovski23 8 месяцев назад +12

    Pull Ups and Chin Ups are best exercises, it blows my back, biceps, chest and abs like no other. And i dont injure unlike from Dead-L or Barb-Row. Sadly i was never able to do more than 6.

    • @WhoFlungDung
      @WhoFlungDung 8 месяцев назад +2

      I've noticed my abs are the most sore after doing pullups/chinups over any isolated ab exercise. It's great for the core.

    • @shahbazkhan-ek7hp
      @shahbazkhan-ek7hp 8 месяцев назад +1

      Try L Sit chinups and you will feel it in the quads and lower abs as well.

  • @johns7530
    @johns7530 8 месяцев назад +10

    For many people who are not that strong, doing assisted chin ups or pull ups on either an assisted machine, or doing them on a pulley type machine is much better, b/c you can reduce the weight. If you can only do a couple chin or pull ups, it's gonna be real hard to progress. If you do something where you can do 8-10 reps and steadily increase how much weight you do (or decrease the amount of assistance), you are much more likely to maintain and use better form than if you are straining using maximal effort all the time. Sometimes less is more, esp if somebody is not already strong enough to do several unassisted pull or chin ups.

    • @olkaneyupoglu3395
      @olkaneyupoglu3395 7 месяцев назад +1

      I started doing 2 chin ups weighing 240 pounds. I started doing it everyday. After 1 month can do now 10 strict pull ups and chin ups. Train hard and be patient. Nothing is hard if i believe in it. Your mind is stronger than you think 💪

    • @johns7530
      @johns7530 7 месяцев назад

      @@olkaneyupoglu3395 Solid achievement, very glad that approach worked for you! Depends on your age though. I'm in my early 50's, and a friend of mine who is close to my age tore his rotator cuff a couple years or so ago attempting to do pull ups. Sometimes less is more, and the hardest exercises not the best place to start. It's not that different from starting out with maximum weight on a bench press, most people are better off starting to work with a weight they can do 10 times or something rather than just once or twice. I used to be able to bench press twice my body weight about 25 years ago, and have had all kinds of neck, back, and shoulder issues, with tons of chronic tension in those areas. Heavy and intense training is not always the best for people's bodies in the long run, and sometimes the negative effects are not visible until the wear and tear on the body becomes evident years later. Based on my own experience in the gym 5 days/week for more than 20 years, I think lighter weights and less resistance (and greater variety) are better places for most people to start. Just be careful and notice how your body feels, but that's not to take anything away from your progress, great for you man! 💪

    • @JustanamebroDK
      @JustanamebroDK 3 месяца назад +1

      Just do pull up negatives, inverted rows and band/pulley assisted pullups and you will have pull ups in no time no machines needed. There's always a natural progression without machine, I prefer pure calisthenics myself but both will work.

    • @BWater-yq3jx
      @BWater-yq3jx 2 месяца назад +1

      Lat pull-downs, visualising pullup technique, are better.
      There's something about assisted pullup machines that just feels disconnected and 'off'.

  • @Bullshittalk08
    @Bullshittalk08 9 месяцев назад +5

    both are great but i injured my wrist for 4 month by doing chin up on bar and push up combination, thats why pull up is better on bar, but chin up is saver on rings

  • @jerryappleton6855
    @jerryappleton6855 8 месяцев назад +4

    Dear bodybuilders: If you can't get your upper chest in line with the bar...it's not a pull up. Get on that assisted pull up machine. Be humble. You're just not strong enough yet.

  • @kristiannoel4866
    @kristiannoel4866 8 месяцев назад +1

    Very good video with much to learn from. I'll be watching this again. I also do a mix of both in my training.

    • @fit_4ever
      @fit_4ever  8 месяцев назад +1

      I'm Glad it was helpful 🙂

    • @kristiannoel4866
      @kristiannoel4866 8 месяцев назад

      @@fit_4ever I learned a lot from it.

  • @jeevagopi9539
    @jeevagopi9539 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you very much for this video ❤

    • @fit_4ever
      @fit_4ever  9 месяцев назад +1

      You're welcome 😊

  • @gorillalilla216
    @gorillalilla216 8 месяцев назад +1

    Very clear and interesting video!

    • @fit_4ever
      @fit_4ever  8 месяцев назад

      Glad you think so!

  • @timetravel6913
    @timetravel6913 7 месяцев назад +3

    I feel my upper back more in chin ups and I think is because it is easier and can do full range of motion. In pull ups I am not going as high their for less range of motion. But I think chin ups will make me better at pull ups eventually since they basically work same muscles but a bit differently.

  • @jakemccoy
    @jakemccoy 6 месяцев назад +2

    Advanced calisthenics athletes practice all grips, at least 50 more grips than what this video shows… Various holds on rope, climbing boards, balls, towels, polls, ledges, FatGripz, slippery bars, etc… Advanced calisthenics athletes don’t ask “which hold is best?” They just do them all.

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav 6 месяцев назад

      That's ridiculous, 50 grips? You don't need all that nonsense to become strong.
      Also climber = / = calisthenic practicioner

    • @jakemccoy
      @jakemccoy 6 месяцев назад

      @@tappajaav It sounds like you already know everything. So, you're all set.

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav 6 месяцев назад

      @@jakemccoy Cheers! Planning to be CEO of universe by tomorrow

  • @georgiosdoumas2446
    @georgiosdoumas2446 7 месяцев назад +2

    I always do the same amount of sets for chinups and pullups, and my maximum is 15 reps for both exercises. I am completely symmetrical! And I can do 45 good form pushups as maximum, so my pushups are 3 times more than my pullups/chinups. Is everyone on the same ration of 1/3 ?

  • @Dtp2296
    @Dtp2296 8 месяцев назад +4

    Do both and in many grip variations, i concentrate more on pullups though and to my bellybutton, aiming for hips. I workout to form failure

  • @PowerslaveWarrior
    @PowerslaveWarrior 4 месяца назад +2

    I just find them so awkward but I LOVE neutral grip pull-ups. It's the only grip I've been using for a long time and probably for the rest of my journey.

  • @JaykleMusic
    @JaykleMusic Год назад +1

    nice video my friend, good information I mainly do pull ups might start doing more chin ups now, great share 💪 👌 👏

  • @luismarin2655
    @luismarin2655 6 месяцев назад +1

    I advice doing both of them and the neutral grip pull up. I regular do two sets of each one to reach 6 sets. it feels good. 😉

  • @jpdoc5722
    @jpdoc5722 8 месяцев назад +1

    “when in doubt..”,
    thus , I do both 😊

  • @veselinvasilev9362
    @veselinvasilev9362 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @zachhendo8379
    @zachhendo8379 8 месяцев назад +1

    You should be doing both, and neutral grip pull ups, and closed grip pull ups and archer pull ups, and dead hangs.

  • @ncshuriken
    @ncshuriken 6 месяцев назад +1

    To me its the other way round. The version you say is easier or less demanding is much harder for me, while the standard/popular version (palms back, lot of unwanted bicep involvement) is much easier for me. I can do nearly twice as many. Its annoying because I'm trying to focus on my torso/back/core WITHOUT majorly ripping my biceps too (which that version does). You end up with biceps & triceps looking disproportionately large compared to shoulders, which looks totally wrong (small shoulders + thick arms = no). So you have to find a back ripping exercise that just works the back, but I haven't found one yet.

  • @gregmartin2455
    @gregmartin2455 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great Video. Finally someone who makes exercise videos and actually knows about it. The grips are not mutually exclusive. I do both with four different combinations of grips. I do at least a hundred a day and sometimes more. Chin ups / pull ups are the best exercise you can do for over all fitness. People at the gym can't believe I'm 69. The abs get an excellent workout too and this helps a lot at my running.

  • @michaelboom7704
    @michaelboom7704 Год назад +2

    Took the grandson to the playground so I decided to see how poor of shape I am doing pull ups on a bar. Guess I better get going as the number was pretty low!

  • @ElGitarico
    @ElGitarico 8 месяцев назад +1

    I make a superset of both allways starting with pullups until failure, then chinups until failure.

  • @ducoh2093
    @ducoh2093 2 месяца назад

    When I do Chinups, I place my hands like you with a Hammer Curl, palms pointing towards each other. Are those good too? I figured it would just be like a chin up with more emphasis on the brachialis

  • @PINKALIMBA
    @PINKALIMBA Месяц назад

    Train both. Alternate between days of chin ups and pull ups. Also mix some days with weights for low rep and some days with resistance band for high reps.

  • @chaosdragon6588
    @chaosdragon6588 4 месяца назад +1

    I focus more on weighted pull-ups, mainly for my training to muscle-up, now i can do weighted muscle-up with 20kg for 1 rep max

  • @Josh-py9rq
    @Josh-py9rq 6 месяцев назад +1

    ahhh good to know so basically do both at the same time I loveeeeee pull ups soo fun lol just gonna do 3 sets if not more each!

  • @kb01663
    @kb01663 5 месяцев назад +2

    If you wanna grow a bigger and stronger back, you should do every variation possible

  • @basutiputhreebrothers2245
    @basutiputhreebrothers2245 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is good information love from India 😊❤

  • @aborigine777
    @aborigine777 4 месяца назад +1

    I do both along with neutral grip pull-up.

  • @peterscottodonnell7290
    @peterscottodonnell7290 8 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you ❤

  • @thesittingpigeon138
    @thesittingpigeon138 8 месяцев назад +2

    It depends on what you want to do. I want to get better at bouldering, so I do pullups more because of the hand position.

    • @ramon3077
      @ramon3077 7 месяцев назад

      From what I've read, some bouldering/rock climber folk barely even train pullups. The hardcore enthusiasts probably favor finger boards over bars.

  • @ivandimov9712
    @ivandimov9712 Месяц назад

    I used to mainly pull ups. But now due to injury in my elbow I replaced them with Chin ups and my lats remain as strong.
    The angle of the chin ups remains when you are tired. While the body angle while doing the pull ups is usually decreased when you’re getting tired.

  • @bagley232
    @bagley232 9 месяцев назад +8

    I do both daily, 10 sets 10 reps. once a week with a 35lb plate, once a week iso holds with a 45 lb plate

  • @aleksandarkostovski1
    @aleksandarkostovski1 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you! Very helpful

    • @fit_4ever
      @fit_4ever  10 месяцев назад

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @grantbradley5084
    @grantbradley5084 7 месяцев назад +1

    I’m in the process of installing my Rogue pull up bar in my yard so I can work on muscle ups. I’m 66.

  • @owenwright4927
    @owenwright4927 2 дня назад

    Starting off with chin-ups is a good start for me I can’t do pull-ups so chin-ups are a good movement to start on working your biceps but your still working your whole back

  • @jaleesa00
    @jaleesa00 2 месяца назад

    Very very interesting

  • @baikamdajel
    @baikamdajel 5 месяцев назад +2

    guys trust me 3 sets of 12 reps chin ups, 3 sets of 7 sets pull ups will make your upper body aesthetic af

  • @hgffgghhj
    @hgffgghhj 9 месяцев назад +15

    it always suprises me why most people choose pull ups over chinups but when it comes to squats they choose normal squats over front squats although they elicit more quads activation but we choose normal squats because we're stronger at them so it means theyre better for hypertrophy the same should go for chinups.
    If you choose weighted chinups you can lift more and your hypertrohhy will get better the
    biceps doesnt take over the lats like most people say the truth is you will be just stronger using that grip thats why
    I choose chinups and i never do pull ups

    • @blacklyfe5543
      @blacklyfe5543 9 месяцев назад

      Chinups are more harder for me because I have to use more of my biceps and the way how I grip the bar

    • @blacklyfe5543
      @blacklyfe5543 9 месяцев назад +2

      You should use both

    • @JJbouncetrio
      @JJbouncetrio 9 месяцев назад +4

      Na Front squats are much better for hypertrophy for me . More weight on the bar doesn't always mean better , Less weight means the desired muscle u want to work is doing all of the work.

    • @androidaccount7743
      @androidaccount7743 8 месяцев назад

      You're an idi*ot if you refuse to do pull ups.

    • @boolaofmt8815
      @boolaofmt8815 7 месяцев назад +1

      front squats are goated for me. I have naturally bigger glutes and they steal most of the gains with squats, but front squat just demolish my quads and upper back. Used to hate it back then tho.

  • @keeslubberding471
    @keeslubberding471 7 месяцев назад +1

    Both have also different benefits. Do both ex and feel also the different muscle working!💪

  • @usermk99
    @usermk99 8 месяцев назад +2

    Pull ups build solid back. Pull ups also hit your biceps with different angle. So you probably should do both Or alternatively. Can't say anyone of this is better than other. Both are good in their own way.

  • @tugsatbaris
    @tugsatbaris Месяц назад

    I think, the best combination is weighted muscle-ups (lower reps, mostly strengh-focused) + weighted chin-ups (higher reps, mostly hypertrophy-focused). This is what I consistently do.

  • @bendover2308
    @bendover2308 5 месяцев назад +1

    Pullups are good, but what bothers me is that your body keeps swinging back and fourth. You have to pause a bit every few reps.

  • @maze400
    @maze400 8 месяцев назад +3

    Chin-ups are great there is no doubt but the back is the foundation for the upper body. Never neglect your back!

  • @ChicagoJ351
    @ChicagoJ351 Месяц назад

    The biggest issue with chin ups is if you use a doorway pull up bar, there isn’t usually a good grip to use.
    The way the bars are constructed, there are usually bars in the way of a good grip. You need a gym, solid bar, rings or some other way to do them. I love chin ups, but it’s hard to find equipment to do them.

  • @donniethedealer2623
    @donniethedealer2623 8 месяцев назад +1

    Chin ups for biceps and pull ups for back. Both have a value and both should be included in your program

    • @ramon3077
      @ramon3077 7 месяцев назад

      Sternum chinup is incredible for back.

  • @hhkk6155
    @hhkk6155 4 месяца назад

    Doing both is absolutely best

  • @robertbogomolec8763
    @robertbogomolec8763 8 месяцев назад +3

    If you're into building strength and not muscle, then pull ups are the way to go. When I was doing gymnastics, we call chin ups "girl pull ups" and we weren't allowed to do them instead of pull ups.

    • @ramon3077
      @ramon3077 7 месяцев назад +1

      Some oldschool bodybuilders built their large physiques doing chinups. It sounds like your gym class was behind on the knowledge.

    • @robertbogomolec8763
      @robertbogomolec8763 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ramon3077 Gymnasts don't build mass, they build strength. No one cares about your biceps size if you're able to do your routine perfectly. And vice versa. Sure, they might be good for a pump, but if strength is your goal then pull ups and weighted pull up are the way to go.

    • @ramon3077
      @ramon3077 7 месяцев назад

      @@robertbogomolec8763 Considering the workout routines of Mathew Zlat / Vince Gironda, disregarding chinups is really just missing out on potential strength/mass, overall gains.

  • @iodineclip
    @iodineclip 8 месяцев назад +1

    i do both at the same time ! Mixed grip !

  • @spoonman4938
    @spoonman4938 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'll take both 🎉

  • @baikamdajel
    @baikamdajel 5 месяцев назад +2

    Chin ups = More biceps, Pull ups = More Back

  • @luis.vuitton
    @luis.vuitton Год назад +2

    Chin ups & last rep I switch to pull ups if I don’t have access to rings

  • @EvanZamir
    @EvanZamir 2 месяца назад +1

    If you want to target mostly your lats, do pull-ups. If you want to do more of a biceps "isolation" then do chin-ups.

  • @rimozione_cittadinanza_a_l4847
    @rimozione_cittadinanza_a_l4847 4 месяца назад +1

    I usually use neutral large and neutral grips

  • @sudheeraggarwal570
    @sudheeraggarwal570 8 месяцев назад

    I think mid back muscles also play a significant role

  • @johnnyman1392
    @johnnyman1392 4 месяца назад +1

    Excellent compound exercises. But one is for back day...the other is for bicep day.

  • @TLTLTLTLTLTLTLTLTL
    @TLTLTLTLTLTLTLTLTL 10 месяцев назад +1

    Do do both pull ups and chip ups so id say i like both

  • @shortycareface9678
    @shortycareface9678 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm chin up biased (just enjoy them more), but I do pull ups when I feel some need for variation.

  • @vaughnalexander32
    @vaughnalexander32 8 месяцев назад +2

    i do them all, i used to hate doing p.t... now if i miss a day, my body craves activity.. i cant sit still

  • @Ratatosk80
    @Ratatosk80 8 месяцев назад +2

    If you can do pull ups you don't need to do chin ups anymore. Yes there is benefit to doing chin ups as well but pull ups are a much better exercise to focus on. Yes better bicep activation from chin ups and if you do close grip chin ups the emphasis on the biceps is even bigger. Here is the deal though, do you really need to focus on your biceps? Biceps are used a lot in many exercises.
    Today for example I did weighted pull ups, lat pulldowns, singe arm rows, dumbbell shoulder press, dumbbell chest press and cable lateral raises. The pull ups, lat pulldowns and rows already hit my biceps plenty. Sure every now and then you could throw in some bicep specific work but it's not needed to get a great looking physique.

    • @lewisyaworski8962
      @lewisyaworski8962 8 месяцев назад

      I agree with that different exercises will recruit the biceps/brachialis without performing a curl or chin-ups, it always depends on your goal. For me, I am working on building my deadlift strength and grip is the major link to make it work. I am using a double-overhand grip, so I can keep my shoulders in rotational symmetry. I use chin-ups because I need another movement that does not require pulling from the floor and there is the added benefit of improving my relative strength at the same time.

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav 6 месяцев назад

      Forgive the hyperbole but that's like saying that you don't need to squat once you can do a bodyweight squat.
      You can always add more difficulty to chin-ups by doing them slower, adding weight, or slowly transfering to one arm chin-ups.
      They are also incredibly time-efficient exercise, so if I were limited with my gym time doing them would be very beneficial

  • @iamfortunate1
    @iamfortunate1 27 дней назад

    I train both variations but pull up are favorite

  • @joy2406
    @joy2406 7 месяцев назад +2

    I find it much more difficult to do chin-ups, but pull- ups are easier than chin-ups for me. When I can do 15 pull-ups in a row , I can hardly do 9 chinups. However, It may be different for men, and depends on fingers and body type.

    • @frede.simsjr.3780
      @frede.simsjr.3780 5 месяцев назад

      That is very unusual because chin up 3:37 so much easier than pull-ups by far because because it allows you to use more of your arms it's always a second to the rule but I can do pull-ups and channels but I do the pull-ups first because they are the hardest and as I fatigue then I do chin UPS

  • @surrealistidealist
    @surrealistidealist 3 месяца назад

    Any interesting studies on neutral-grip chin-ups?

  • @joebot9309
    @joebot9309 8 месяцев назад +2

    Chin ups can really bake (shred) the bicep tendon overtime. If you want to be lifting at 56 yrs old like me, limit the chin ups to perfect reps.

  • @xxChacaronXX
    @xxChacaronXX 8 месяцев назад +1

    Do them with leg raises! You a machine if you can do that. I can do it a bit… I’m getting there tho.

  • @Swampe84
    @Swampe84 11 месяцев назад +2

    I stick to pull ups as I easliy get inflamed biceps tendons from chin ups

  • @oibender
    @oibender 8 месяцев назад

    The main thing is motivation, or lack of thereof. Once you hit a certain age (your mileage may vary), you start asking yourself the same question time and again: "What for?"

    • @qwerty975
      @qwerty975 8 месяцев назад

      For yourself. It's a great feeling when you can perform pull ups and start looking great

    • @ramon3077
      @ramon3077 7 месяцев назад

      Use it or lose it.

  • @BransZ6776
    @BransZ6776 5 дней назад

    Just doing do cause this Two both exercise have they own benefits

  • @narayanchoudhary8254
    @narayanchoudhary8254 9 месяцев назад +2

    Both are benifit 😁😁

  • @TroysHIITsprints
    @TroysHIITsprints Месяц назад

    Both mate .
    Diff angles , parts etc

  • @Brukner841
    @Brukner841 Месяц назад

    did chin ups three times a week for a year and my biceps were and still are awesome, but the lats never grew, pull ups and they both grow.

  • @Workoutafter43
    @Workoutafter43 18 дней назад

    I do both

  • @mubarakj8765
    @mubarakj8765 9 месяцев назад

    Finally someone said it. 👏

  • @OleSmokey
    @OleSmokey 8 месяцев назад +2

    Chin ups hurt my elbows at 57. Thousands and thousands and thousands yearly of pullups

  • @SurvivalGames1
    @SurvivalGames1 6 месяцев назад +1

    never did curls , just chin ups, first time i strict curled 70kg ...chin ups work good for bicep

  • @strawberryyogurt0
    @strawberryyogurt0 8 месяцев назад +1

    So unlike your thumbnail, pull-ups are in fact better for me, which is exactly what I’ve been doing.

  • @ouroboros6125
    @ouroboros6125 10 месяцев назад +4

    I can do 5 chin-ups, but I can't do a single pull-up. Does this mean my back muscles are uber weak?

    • @farrelltreviano1198
      @farrelltreviano1198 9 месяцев назад +5

      Means you have weak scapula foundation, start by training your scapula 10 reps for 3 sets

    • @ouroboros6125
      @ouroboros6125 9 месяцев назад

      @@farrelltreviano1198 Thank you :) I'll look into that muscle group. Found it strange because for most of my life when fit and working out chin-ups were harder and pull-ups easier. After having lost all my muscle and having been inactive for a few years. Casually testing again & seeing the result left me in "WTF?" mode.

    • @blacklyfe5543
      @blacklyfe5543 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes

    • @UY-SCUTInohomo
      @UY-SCUTInohomo 8 месяцев назад

      bro i need to know your progress update

  • @martinivanov1817
    @martinivanov1817 8 месяцев назад +1

    What if you don't go near failure, but until you just can't do anymore ?
    I'm doing 3x6 pull ups and 3x6 chin ups where at the last set I have to bring my best to complete it and sometimes I can't.

    • @perrygriffin2371
      @perrygriffin2371 8 месяцев назад +2

      Thats failure

    • @president8102
      @president8102 8 месяцев назад

      that's failure. if 6 reps is your max on the first set then most likely you will not be able to do 6 reps on the following sets.

    • @martinivanov1817
      @martinivanov1817 8 месяцев назад

      My one set max isn't 6. The strategy is to be harder and harder until i reach the 6th set where i have to give me best to be able to finish it@@president8102

    • @president8102
      @president8102 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@martinivanov1817 6 sets of the same exercise is a little excessive. you can increase reps biweekly just off of one set alone. you should be going near failure every set. if you can do 6 sets of a certain rep range it's not close enough to failure.

  • @NikDeCesare
    @NikDeCesare 3 месяца назад +1

    Pull ups are better, they allow you to pull higher than the bar, accesing a differnet plane of pull strenth.

  • @ZFlyingVLover
    @ZFlyingVLover 8 месяцев назад +1

    chinups are easier and less strenuous on your elbows so good for older people. idk if chinups are better but they're definitely easier

    • @jumbothompson
      @jumbothompson 8 месяцев назад

      And less strain on the shoulder joint. I got some nice tennis elbow doing pull ups. Neutral grip is best.