How to Wrestle with God with Lisa Fields

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024
  • Wrestling with God is a normal part of the Christian faith. We can’t grow in our relationship with God without questioning Him. But many of us run from hard questions or feel discouraged and angry when the answers we find are not emotionally satisfying to us. This week’s guest, Lisa Fields, has a conversation with the Perrys about learning how to wrestle well with God instead of leaving the faith.
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Комментарии • 344

  • @Ready4ChangeRU
    @Ready4ChangeRU 3 месяца назад +308

    30 minutes of silence. Allow the Lord to search my heart. Then Bible reading and then prayer. I love that!

  • @kishispiritesthetics
    @kishispiritesthetics 3 месяца назад +501

    I already listened on Spotify but I literally got on here to see her outfit. Lol 😂

  • @tes-xj8uy
    @tes-xj8uy 3 месяца назад +200

    “Purpose is not what you achieve, it’s who you become… becoming more like God”

  • @-myranda-
    @-myranda- 3 месяца назад +239

    “So much of our Sin is just us coping with pain” 💯💯💯💯

  • @brianad.2542
    @brianad.2542 3 месяца назад +88

    Wow she just freed me with a one liner “peace is the assurance of God, not the absence of negative emotions” (paraphrasing). WOW! Needed that. 😭

  • @taebrown384
    @taebrown384 3 месяца назад +101

    “You have to get it out your mouth to get it out of your heart. Giving language to your innermost thoughts/feelings”

  • @alainm6070
    @alainm6070 3 месяца назад +111

    The irony is that I have a PhD in biblical studies and I have studied and researched most related topics to the point when I have a good idea of the limits of what we can know. I am one of those who people come to see to get biblical answers. However, I have long realized that in the grand scheme of things I still know very little and compared to God, I know even less than a newborn before she opens her eyes for the first time (we should keep things in perspective even when we have fancy degrees). This is very comforting when I do not understand what some of the things God did or will do as shown in the Bible (and there is still a lot I know that I will never fully grasp on this side of heaven) or what God is doing in my life. No matter how painful it is, I know that the problem is not with God but with my limited understanding. Approaching things that way and reverently going to God for clarity brings me peace in the storm and keeps me from sinning against God as he works in me and through me. Once we realize that understanding everything is not a prerequisite and will never be a reality, the foundation of our relationship with God and the universe around us becomes our trust in God for who he is instead of our understanding of what is going on which is limited at best and often corrupted by sin and the flesh. The attitude of the heart is important when we approach this question and go to God. With humility and reverence comes understanding and if not peace that he who understands all has it all under control.

    • @Melsmom
      @Melsmom 3 месяца назад +13

      Beautifully written. When I was in the world, not understanding something left me hopeless but in him, I feel comfort, and freedom and hopeful even in my limitations. Hes so good ! Much peace to you 💜

    • @MamaShawnyD
      @MamaShawnyD 3 месяца назад +4

      Amen!

  • @matildegonzales4467
    @matildegonzales4467 3 месяца назад +136

    “The truth isn’t always emotionally satisfying to us” 👏🏽🙌🏽 reminds me of Psalm 13 how David asks the Lord how long? How long will the Lord forget him? But as you read the text you see that the Psalm doesn’t end with an answer to “how long” but magnifies WHO the Lord is. That He’s merciful, the He’s our salvation, that He deals bountifully with us! Praise God that He’s so consistent that Who He IS causes us to rejoice even through those times of suffering!

    • @atimelessgrace
      @atimelessgrace 3 месяца назад +4

      Well written, yeah you're so right ❤

    • @taebrown384
      @taebrown384 3 месяца назад +3

      👏👏👏👏 beautifully written

    • @moet131
      @moet131 3 месяца назад +1

      That's good!!

  • @koalalou68
    @koalalou68 3 месяца назад +94

    "Getting to the root of their question and not the fruit of their question."📝

  • @anablepsis
    @anablepsis 3 месяца назад +124

    Sometimes it seems like we are afraid to be alone with our own thoughts.

  • @janiquembradley
    @janiquembradley 3 месяца назад +86

    “You look like you got several accounts at Chase.” is hilarious 😂

    • @afriqueus1
      @afriqueus1 2 месяца назад +3

      “Like you got CDs, not the music kind”🤣

  • @ladyt5766
    @ladyt5766 3 месяца назад +34

    My only problem with this episode was I wanted more! She was an excellent guest!!! Loved this episode! Saved it to listen again. ❤

  • @jeremiahogbadu
    @jeremiahogbadu 3 месяца назад +38

    15:21 TALK ABOUT IT YELLOW!! Jackie stop 😂😂😂😂

  • @MamaShawnyD
    @MamaShawnyD 3 месяца назад +29

    "You gotta get it out of your mouth to get it out of your heart." That part!

  • @favourogbah1729
    @favourogbah1729 3 месяца назад +31

    Purpose is not what you achieve, it's who you become. That was a hit.
    Blessed.🔥

  • @brianad.2542
    @brianad.2542 3 месяца назад +23

    “So much of our sin is just us coping with pain.”
    Lordy.

  • @warriorsbleed
    @warriorsbleed 2 месяца назад +4

    i never comment, but i’m watching this at a time where i can’t even articulate why i’m wrestling with God - thank you for helping young adults like me have language to communicate with God so that we may remain on this narrow way. truly.

  • @ShanellMalai
    @ShanellMalai 3 месяца назад +32

    This podcast is really helping me innerstand how to build a relationship with Christ .
    I did the sage and crystal thing .
    But I truly feel free building a relationship with Christ

    • @taebrown384
      @taebrown384 3 месяца назад +4

      Beautiful sis, be encouraged, stay in the word and prayer. Have you got a church you attend??

    • @tessantexas9186
      @tessantexas9186 3 месяца назад

      😂😂😂

  • @duwandalynruffin328
    @duwandalynruffin328 2 месяца назад +6

    “So much our sin is us coping with pain “ this is it !!! And how one copes is indicative of how we sin . Ohhhh this is freedom

  • @comeclowe
    @comeclowe 3 месяца назад +30

    😂😂😂😂 yall did not have to fire her up like that 🔥 love how yall always lead with laughter ❤

  • @InThisSeasonOfFaith
    @InThisSeasonOfFaith 3 месяца назад +15

    Once people understand that God, is still going to love you, walk with you through the sin (sanctification).... you'll stop being frustrated. No you can't continue to do what you want..... but for the ones that are struggling and we know we want to stop and change....God got you and he will use us even in it.

  • @kimberlyrose0671
    @kimberlyrose0671 3 месяца назад +7

    I have said those exact words, written those words, screamed those words to the heavens..."God, You don't care about me, You're just using me"! Boy that hit home and I am so blessed to say that I'm on the other side of that feeling. Such a hard truth that emotionally satisfying answers are not always truth. Truth was He was using me to minister to others but He was also using others to minister to me. He was holding me up while I was trying to pull others up. I love Him for that. I pray this book reaches all who need to hear it.❤

  • @angiebae8125
    @angiebae8125 Месяц назад +1

    downloaded the audiobook after listening to this EP. and really looking forward to it

  • @deana4642
    @deana4642 3 месяца назад +15

    "Look beyond the aggression and see the pain." Such a wonderful insight. Thank you all for sharing.

  • @tbjones1577
    @tbjones1577 2 месяца назад +1

    Oh my gracious!! 30 minutes of silence with the LORD, before moving to scripture, prayer, requests.. I know that I know, the Holy Spirit is speaking to me. Thank you!

  • @Brianna_Elan
    @Brianna_Elan 2 месяца назад +2

    “The Truth Will Set You Free”

  • @TiraMcCants
    @TiraMcCants 3 месяца назад +9

    The truth isn’t always satisfying, but it will set you free. Thank you, for this podcast.

  • @alainm6070
    @alainm6070 3 месяца назад +18

    It is important to distinguish between what is normal and what is right/biblical. Normal just means common to human experience (for example sin and unbelief are normal). In that framework, resentment and anger toward God are normal but they are not necessarily right. If someone ever had “grounds” for resentment and anger toward God, it was Job. After losing his wealth, his children, and his health. The Bible states “In all this Job did not sin or charge God with wrong” (Job 1:22 and again 2:9b). We cross the line when, amid our pain, we accuse God of doing what is wrong thus placing ourselves as God’s judge.
    This is not to say that we should not be open with and share with him our feelings, and expectations versus reality, and the fact that we absolutely do not like and enjoy what is going on but… like Job, in all of that, we should not forget our place and who we are talking to. Pain does not give us a pass to disrespect the Most High and sin with our lips.
    Like Job humility and surrender lead to healing and restoration.

  • @Ready4ChangeRU
    @Ready4ChangeRU 3 месяца назад +21

    As soon as Jackie said her outfit remind her of a song. I knew the song before she said it 😂😂😂 and I don’t know all the lyrics either. I mumble the exact same part LOL

  • @indira2484
    @indira2484 3 месяца назад +30

    Omg! I LOVE Lisa Fields. Y’all can support her by following the Jude 3 Project on RUclips ❤

  • @deirdrelmclaughlin9598
    @deirdrelmclaughlin9598 3 месяца назад +8

    What a way to frame truth versus a lie...emotionally satisfying answers keep us bound.

  • @stephanieparker3463
    @stephanieparker3463 3 месяца назад +5

    I took this Professor's New Testament class at UNC-Chapel Hill (who wrote her textbook) and as a PK, this did indeed kind of rock my world. He gave us an option at the end of the semester to either do an assignment or attend a class to only hear his story to becoming (at that time) Agnostic. It was essentially deduced to world hunger and his inability to reconcile its existence.

  • @debbierhynd5352
    @debbierhynd5352 2 месяца назад +2

    This is such an amazing discussion.

  • @thegoodinfluencer15
    @thegoodinfluencer15 3 месяца назад +8

    This lady was great! Very transparent and broke everything down so simple! We need this, Love it! I thank God for her 🙏🏾💯

  • @diathinks
    @diathinks 2 месяца назад +1

    OMG!! I legitimately had a moment this morning where I just broke down with so many questions for God… questions I would have been so afraid to ask growing up out of fear of being struck by lightning. I am 40 years old and just getting to a place where I feel comfortable “questioning” God. I grew up in church and have been churched my whole life and have definitely found myself wanting to leave the faith multiple times for many reasons, I have felt a breech in trust with God and because some things just have not made sense. He’s guided me to this for a reason. I still have so many questions but so glad to know I’m not alone. One thing I will say is God literally used my 5yr old to save my soul and, no matter the lingering questions, I’m being pulled towards Him rather than away… and for now I’m going rest and move forward in that fact. Thank you, Lisa, for your openness about this topic.❤

  • @monickporter262
    @monickporter262 Месяц назад

    This entire message needs to be manifested in my life ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

  • @angied7206
    @angied7206 3 месяца назад +5

    Thank you to The Perrys for having thought-provoking and Holy Spirit led conersationists on the show!! Keep up the great work!! Love ya'll and praying for your continued success.

  • @jaidaturner521
    @jaidaturner521 2 месяца назад +2

    Jackie, you look beautiful! Skin is GLOWING.

  • @thewisevirgins8030
    @thewisevirgins8030 3 месяца назад +8

    Jude 3 helped me grow Big time

  • @veronicah6321
    @veronicah6321 2 месяца назад +4

    I am so glad to hear that other people are going through this. I thought maybe I wasn't saved. I totally understand people leaving the faith as they wrestle with God. If you don't know it's normal and common your natural feeling is to leave the faith. God is so amazing to know our hearts and still love us and restore us.

  • @jonatpembroke
    @jonatpembroke Месяц назад +1

    My favorite part was when yal talked about the cereals. Just kiddin this was awesome, thank yal. I appreciate Lisa's honesty about her struggle with the hard question

  • @JameliaSampson
    @JameliaSampson Месяц назад +1

    Love this epiosde. As real as it gets!

  • @loveafrica97
    @loveafrica97 3 месяца назад +9

    I started listening to Lisa’s audiobook because of this podcast.. sold!

  • @vaughntalley37
    @vaughntalley37 3 месяца назад +4

    WOW!!! Where have you alll been hiding this sister. She is Soo. I don’t even have the words. But what a Powerful Benefit for The Body of Christ!!❤

  • @melieymell
    @melieymell 2 месяца назад +2

    Brilliant guest. Thank you “Yellow” 💛

  • @eveshalom3534
    @eveshalom3534 2 месяца назад +1

    This was the meat of the word! 🙏🏾💪🏾 thank you!

  • @faustine1572
    @faustine1572 Месяц назад +2

    “Purpose is not what you achieve, it’s who you become.” 38:50

  • @jolisasiteto6330
    @jolisasiteto6330 2 месяца назад +4

    This is one of the best episodes I’ve ever seen from you guys. The amount of though provoking lines I got from this will require a few rewatches from me, for sure! Thank you!❤❤

  • @AsiaAndrews
    @AsiaAndrews 3 месяца назад +8

    This has beyond blessed me!! And I don’t ever comment on videos or anything, but I truly felt led to just say this is one of my favorites ❤🙏🏾🙏🏾😭

  • @courtneyyoung5071
    @courtneyyoung5071 2 месяца назад +3

    This is such a good conversation! I’ve been looking for more supplemental reading to recommend for couples and families in my work. Knowing that some of our issues with God, the church, or any other relationship stem from our desire to only have emotionally satisfying answers. Peace and patience are two examples of fruit that God frequently sent me on an assignment to gain. He didn’t just give it to me.

  • @judymendezmartinez176
    @judymendezmartinez176 2 месяца назад +2

    I listen to your podcasts, love them. I especially loved the one with Priscilla Shrier. But this one here, I go through this very thing.

  • @Shalonta.Edwards
    @Shalonta.Edwards 17 дней назад

    THIS is one of my FAVORITE episodes!!!

  • @elementagape2284
    @elementagape2284 3 месяца назад +2

    I've experienced so much pain in my life that I've got to do something grand to make it make sense. MY GOD!!

  • @karenhicks247
    @karenhicks247 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank You God for this message.

  • @savannahharmon708
    @savannahharmon708 Месяц назад

    Thank you for making this applicable. Ms.Lisa gave some tangible takeaways. I needed this!

  • @lalex08
    @lalex08 2 месяца назад +1

    This thing she said about the truth being unemotional.
    🤯
    When we are looking for Gods answers and they are quiet but undeniably true.
    My goodness!
    This was a good episode, “yellow” (Ms.fields) got some heat

  • @beechannel27
    @beechannel27 2 месяца назад +1

    This was such a great and informative episode. Thanks for this conversation!

  • @streamsofsound-25
    @streamsofsound-25 3 месяца назад +4

    I have been feeling the same way. What a timely word

  • @reanadepass3382
    @reanadepass3382 2 месяца назад +2

    This conversation was SOOO GOOD!! 😮‍💨🔥👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @bEAuTiful_Selah13
    @bEAuTiful_Selah13 2 месяца назад +1

    I need a part 2! I feel like they were just getting started.

  • @akekestory493
    @akekestory493 2 месяца назад +1

    I was blessed by this and I love that she dresses professionally. I also will say I've struggled with the goodness of God when it comes to the life of Judas I'm still wrestling tbh and so I'm glad that I'm not the only one who found the emotional more wearisome than the logical

  • @theeaglewings11
    @theeaglewings11 3 месяца назад +10

    Why is this exactly the season God is bringing me through. Telling me to be quiet. Come on God!!

  • @keziahb5523
    @keziahb5523 3 месяца назад +4

    Wow 17:02 !!! Needed to hear this conversation 😭😭

  • @RaRe_Mentality_0789
    @RaRe_Mentality_0789 Месяц назад +1

    Wow I just read Day 3 of your devotional Jackie and guess what it talks about questioning God!!! 😮this is wild.

  • @stayathomehustler7887
    @stayathomehustler7887 2 месяца назад +1

    Ooph! Preach Lisa 👏

  • @mamichulahazeleyes
    @mamichulahazeleyes 2 месяца назад +51

    *I'm glad you made this video,* it reminds me of my transformation from a nobody to good home, $89k biweekly and a good daughter full of love..

    • @GrinvalskyMchone
      @GrinvalskyMchone 2 месяца назад

      Please how ?

    • @GrinvalskyMchone
      @GrinvalskyMchone 2 месяца назад

      Am a born Christian and sometimes I feel so down 😭 of myself because of low finance but I still believe God😞

    • @mamichulahazeleyes
      @mamichulahazeleyes 2 месяца назад

      It's Maria Angelina Alexander doing she's changed my life. A BROKER- like her is what you need.

    • @mamichulahazeleyes
      @mamichulahazeleyes 2 месяца назад

      $356K monthly is something you should feel differently about....

    • @Alvarezdavid-z7e
      @Alvarezdavid-z7e 2 месяца назад

      Lovely! I enjoyed it like I enjoy a $100k monthly around the turn!!!

  • @kaelandchatman4780
    @kaelandchatman4780 2 месяца назад +1

    Been following Jude 3 for a minute. Thank you for bringing Lisa on the show.

  • @Juane72
    @Juane72 2 месяца назад +1

    Beautiful and powerful testimony and lesson!

  • @carmensnyman8460
    @carmensnyman8460 2 месяца назад +2

    Such a good episode. Clear, honest, thought provoking truth!

  • @toluheartofworship23
    @toluheartofworship23 2 месяца назад +1

    Grateful for this episode! Giving words to some of my silent struggles and wrestlings with God! Nice to know I’m not alone in this 🙌🏾

  • @SterlingQDavis
    @SterlingQDavis 3 месяца назад +7

    I just listened to the podcast earlier today. It was fire and a much needed today, more than you know. Thanks y’all!

  • @bridgeegibson2790
    @bridgeegibson2790 2 месяца назад +1

    This is one of the best podcasts you’ve done. It was so deep that I keep rewatching parts. Thankyou

  • @Nadiahope7
    @Nadiahope7 2 месяца назад +2

    Jackie is glowing today☀️

  • @KelahCash
    @KelahCash 3 месяца назад +24

    I absolutely KNEEEWWWWW Jackie was gonna say, the Clarke Sisters' "You Brought the Sunshine"!!!! I already KNEW when I saw that bright yellow 😂😂😂
    Shout out to HU & my fellow HBCU folk! 🤎🥰

    • @ChildOfGod-JesusLives
      @ChildOfGod-JesusLives 3 месяца назад +1

      Likewise!!! She brought the sunshine that is Jesus!!!

    • @KelahCash
      @KelahCash 3 месяца назад

      @@ChildOfGod-JesusLives Yes indeed, yes indeed!!! 🥰🙌🏼💛

  • @jessejess5159
    @jessejess5159 2 месяца назад +1

    I just love you guys and your hearts for the
    Lord✨🤍✨thank you for doing these podcasts and may the Lord continue to bless your work and your home and your guests 🙏🏽

  • @theresiamonzomonyake2956
    @theresiamonzomonyake2956 2 месяца назад +1

    Wow!!!! Impeccable!

  • @MeMyselfLea
    @MeMyselfLea 2 месяца назад +1

    This was so good!!

  • @shamikat.5556
    @shamikat.5556 3 месяца назад +2

    THIS EPISODE IS AMAZING!! 🔥🔥🔥 I’m sure so many people can relate to the realness of this conversation!

  • @jasmineantoine
    @jasmineantoine 2 месяца назад +1

    Loved this!

  • @comeclowe
    @comeclowe 3 месяца назад +3

    19:27 LORD GOD! 30 mins in SILENCE interrogating my heart and show me the thing that are NOT like you! 😮❤🥹

  • @dulciesimataa3976
    @dulciesimataa3976 2 месяца назад +1

    Such a fantastic episode! I truly enjoyed it and picked up some valuable insights along the way. Thank you! ❤❤

  • @smileonlegs1
    @smileonlegs1 3 месяца назад +1

    This was amazing, I needed it to be longer. So good.

  • @Nadiahope7
    @Nadiahope7 2 месяца назад +1

    This conversation rrally blessed me

  • @brocanwetalk
    @brocanwetalk 2 месяца назад +1

    Great conversation 💎

  • @felicitasarinaga3642
    @felicitasarinaga3642 3 месяца назад +3

    Jackie l so love your message HOLY, HOLY, HOLY, I listened to this message 4 times in a row, I thank GOD first for that message, and also I thank you for that message, powerful, powerful, mighty, and beautiful.l just couldn't get enough,l cried a lot, what a strong message,l loved it.GOD BLESS you and your family Jackie.

  • @lisanowling5589
    @lisanowling5589 3 месяца назад +1

    I learn so much from y’all bout God’s plan for us. Lisa, you are so on point, THANK YOU!!!

  • @niablackenglish8573
    @niablackenglish8573 Месяц назад

    Grateful for this message, I am able to apply some things!!!

  • @TheSayofHouseID
    @TheSayofHouseID 2 месяца назад +1

    “If your life is giving Jacob” 😂😂😂 Jackie bye!!!!!

  • @shayl7849
    @shayl7849 3 месяца назад +15

    Praying in tongues, singing praise music and the Holyspirit helps to alleviate the angst

    • @PoSHEmediaglobal
      @PoSHEmediaglobal 3 месяца назад

      I can’t even open my mouth cos my mouth is attached to my heart but my heart is in a bad place

    • @adam2000borunda
      @adam2000borunda 3 месяца назад

      @@PoSHEmediaglobal

    • @shayl7849
      @shayl7849 3 месяца назад +1

      @@PoSHEmediaglobal Don't be so hard on yourself, just ask God to help you and don't worry and just start reading the bible , even outloud if you need to for example you can start at psalms 23

    • @PoSHEmediaglobal
      @PoSHEmediaglobal 3 месяца назад

      @@shayl7849 thank u

    • @prettyweapons
      @prettyweapons 3 месяца назад

      Hi ​@@PoSHEmediaglobal. I just wanted to say that God can see you where you are. You don't have to hide how you feel or the things that bother you. If your heart is so heavy, you can just start your prayer from there. Tell Him that your heart is too heavy to pray. He cares enough for you to go through anything and everything with you. He will empathise with you and help you out of that space.

  • @keshacovington3297
    @keshacovington3297 3 месяца назад +4

    I am in that same vein of conversation. This is one I’m looking forward to seeing

  • @moet131
    @moet131 3 месяца назад +1

    The roast in the beginning was hilarious but the jewels dropped in this episode was even better! I'm so thankful to have stumbled across Jude 3 project some years ago. I had "my" Life Groups class go through their apologetics book last year. I learned so much

  • @mymyforever
    @mymyforever 3 месяца назад +2

    not Lisa Fields being a fellow Liberty alum... that just made me so happy as a fellow alum & someone who admires & is inspired/energized by her work! ahhh, kk lemme get back to the rest of this episode, so good 🤭🔥

  • @carladraffen9145
    @carladraffen9145 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for your ministry, Lisa!

  • @MsCoCoLaChe
    @MsCoCoLaChe 3 месяца назад +2

    Excellent episode!

  • @ThatsSoAriel
    @ThatsSoAriel 2 месяца назад +1

    Lisa!!!! Yellow was teaching teaching!!! 🤯😮‍💨 Now let me go sit for 30 minutes

  • @kimms_page
    @kimms_page 2 месяца назад +3

    this video WAS TOO SHORT I NEED MORE

  • @Emmanuelbrooks03
    @Emmanuelbrooks03 2 месяца назад +1

    The way I laughed at “ We can tell “ 😭

  • @TheAccountabilityCorner
    @TheAccountabilityCorner 3 месяца назад +4

    “A lot of times we are chasing ambiguity” - whewww

  • @karlal3529
    @karlal3529 2 месяца назад +1

    This was good , had to watch it again

  • @FavouredLadyT
    @FavouredLadyT 2 месяца назад +1

    This podcast was brought to me by God Himself. I'm wrestling with the Lord