Filtering Beer - Clear Beer FAST - 10 inch Filter - 1 Micron
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Can I ask a question as a newbie to all of this and still using an open set up of boilers and barrels and buckets. i dont understand the new idea of oxygen free, everyone seems to be doing oxygen free, i dont understand why and i dont understand the need for it. when you have to ferment the co2 fills the air space so it becomes naturally O2 free, i then gravity ssyhpon into the keg i use, does such a small air space which gets filled with co2 as well, why bother doing this. i can understand from a commercial point of view the brewery has a sealed policy but thats more for anti tamper or anti dirt or to run a hygene sealed system
Sure! Its not a new idea, what is new is the affordability for home brewers without having to buy many thousands of dollars worth of stainless steel pressurised equipment. Oxygen is the number one enemy of beer. Mainly well usually firstly seen in the difference from bottled beer to keg beer. Night and Day, unless you are extremely careful or use counter pressure fillers etc. Its all about freshness, making your hop aromas and flavours last.
Dont get me wrong you can still get very nice beer in the way you do it, I did it for years.
the amount of oxygen that can spoil beer is extremely small, its like a grain of sand on a beach, a very large beach. Whether you've noticed it or not just filling the keg with the top open is enough to damage a beer, some beers much more susceptible than others, well easier to notice the damage. Since kegs are usually stored cold that slows some damage too.
Someone in a group last week did some oxygen tests at his work, filled and purged keg had around 40 ppb of oxygen left n the keg while one with the top open had 1013 ppb, its quite a difference.
Sure if you're just brewing ales to drink and relatively quickly the normal methods will be fine, big booze and dark malts cover a multitude of sins as well.
I dont brew big beers and I like my hoppy ales, IPAs and Pilsner/Lagers and these beers really benefit from some extra care, especially since im usually the only one drinking them so some can sit in a keg for a couple of months, where they used to drop of after a few weeks, I'm finding they stay much fresher longer, which is a win for me.
Also even looking at it from another angle I need variety of things for my channel! but this is more than that, its those hop aromas and flavours that last longer and fresher is what does it for me! Cheers Pete!
@@HomeBrewNetwork cheers. Its all very technical and costly compared to my older way. And its hard to decide if its worth investing so much money in the newer equipment and routines
It dosen't matter until the "After the first few days of Fermentation" Stage. Initially the yeast needs oxygen to multiply and start growing. Then it starts using the sugars and tuning them into alcohol with CO2 as a byproduct.
I just syphon my beer into a Plastic Cask but I take care not to splash as I do that and purge the filled Cask with CO2 from and S30 cylinder prior to sealing. That stops the beer from oxidising in the cask so it tastes better and lasts longer.
The procedure shown is better because of the complete elimination but less than perfect is also OK.
@@hedgerowpete
Try diverting the CO2 from Fermentation to purge your Barrels.
Low cost and see if there's any improvement.
If you are doing bottle conditioned beer, that uses up a lot of ingressed O2 or even keg conditioned would work as well. The fermenting yeast in the packages will use thespare O2.
love your videos Gash, new to home brewing and your videos have helped me alot! cheers and happy new years
Cheers and thanks mate!
You do such a great job mate, you truly deserve a huge following, keep at it mate we all love it.
Thanks, will do! Cheers mate!
Exactly the information I was looking for, you're a legend!
Happy New year Gash. Look forward to your videos this year. I watch every one of them :)
Thanks very much mate! Cheers!
Happy new year mate. Great vid as always. Cheers!
Cheers!
Happy New Year Gash,
Awesome vid once again.🍻
Thanks friend! :)
I have been planing to do this for a long time so nice to see someone do it before i do :D
Finally someone who actually show the result of filtration. Thank you! :-)
No worries, cheers mate!
Great video, I wouldnt mind having a go at doing that. And the filter cleaned up really well and very nice looking beer. Cheers and happy new year.
Cheers brother, thanks for watching again!
That's it Gavo... Good to see you guys are ok, I was bit worry about those Bushfires down there! I'm 100% sure you definitely did filter video before. Using it too for lagers but I let them in a keg for couple of weeks and then send'em through the filter. Never failed actually... always good beer come out and "lagery" clear :). Cheers mate and Happy New Year!!!
Cheers mate and thanks very much!
a well timed topic ,i have been reading about this topic and this size filter systems
G'day Gash good to see you and all the best for the new decade. Hope you and yours are safe mate.
Thanks mate, we are good here, my cousin lost his house, but he can rebuild! Cheers!
Hey thanks for actually showing the beer in a glass at the end! I feel like most of the vids I've watched showing how this filter works, they never show the beer after filtration and it drives me nuts. Your video convinced me to get one of these set-ups. Thans!
How was the result of your beer after you filtered it?
Legend! Just the video I was lookin for as I just purchased one ! What I normally do is leave the the pvr valve on the keg open then purge co2 into the keg a few times to rid of any oxygen when it's filled 😀
Great vid Gav.
I cant believe how clear that was from the bottom of the fermentor.
Awesome :-)
Cheers Shayne!
been a while, good to see u back mate!
Cheers Brendan! Thanks
Wow, it really came out clear!
Timely thanks. I was just about to try this for the first time.
Thanks for watching!
Awesomely explanation to achieve startling results... new to this... learning heaps.. gratis👍😍😎
Nice work. Excellent explanation of the process. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful! Cheers mate!
That beer has a great clarity. Nice job 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Parabéns pelo trabalho, sou brasileiro e estou acompanhando seu canal 🇧🇷
Thank you for watching! Cheers!
Thanks for sharing Gav, I think I'll go back to filtering as well. cheers
Cheers Keith!
As always, great video!
Cheers Power Ranger! :)
Hope ye had a great Christmas and wish you and yours a Happy New Year m8. Cheers.
Thanks mate and same to you!
Great upload. People that take their time consuming their home brews should definitely give this a crack. Filtering coupled with closed transfer into a purged corny keg is a great way to get some extra shelf life and keep it tasting fresh. Thanks for bringing the filter back! Cheers
Thanks very much for watching mate!
@@HomeBrewNetwork No worries mate. Have finally decided to get on RUclips after years of watching guys like yourself. Cheers for all the awesome content you've put up over the journey!
Cheers Gash! Looks awesome!
Happy New Year mate!
Mate, I follow the exact same procedure: It has never disappointed. Clear, great flavour and alcohol content is still perfect. With you on this one - Why wait and take up space when you can enjoy...
Are you the Cricketer?
Very good info, thanks mate.
Purchased, brilliant idea
Hey great vid, I have a filter system but I haven't use for years. However there is a easier option. If you buy a carbonation lid from selected suppliers. Disregard the centre tube ( replace with a silicone tube with float ) Disregard the top centre valve and replace with a multivalve. The brew will always draw from the top, all my kegs have this system.Chin Chin
Hi. Loving the videos. Incredibly helpful. I've got a similar set up and it's just perfect, everything I'm about to do youve already done.
I've got a question though if your still responding to this video.
I've just bought one of these filters and am wondering if sodium metabisulphate would work as a substitute to potassium metabisulphate and have the same effect?
Cheers
Thanks, well put together and informative.
Cheers Barry , Thanks for watching!
Cheers, thanks for the demo and explanation, I was thinking a pump was required, good to see the example with CO2 to move
Thankyou for that Vid was great info for me..... i bought a filter 12 months ago, used it a couple of times and didn't like it
- oxidized my beer for shore
"The home Brew Network" method will now be applied and thanks again
CHEERS for more Quality Beers
Thanks Steve and cheers! Good luck!
I’ve watched this video a few times now. I really like your transfer method. In my case however I am going to have to come up with some kind of modification because my fermenters aren’t capable of being pressurized.
Great job mate very helpful thanks
Thanks for watching :)
FANTASTICO BUEN VIDEO, GRACIAS
Gash, yet another great educational vid. Ta
Cheers Dazza!
Gash, great video, idea for saving your finger, use one the plastic carb caps! I bought the pack of 10 so they are cheap as chips. Use em everywhere now!
yes great idea, but I usually fumble around it squirts every where hahaha at least if I drop this hose it stops the flow.. One day I'll catch of of my monumental stuff ups on camera so everyone can have a laugh lol Cheers Mike!
Hey! Great video. I've just bought one of these to filter some Pet Nat wine I'm bottling next week. The way you're using it here, is it just gravity fed because that's essentially what I have. Two primary ferment buckets, this in the middle and then straight into the bottle. Am I going to have enough pressure from just gravity to push the wine through the filter?
Too top the process!
You’re a legend! ‘Next time I’m up your way I’d love to say gday
Dont know about legend lol but I'm usually not far from home. Cheers!
I’ve a daughter in murwillumbah who I try and visit reg’ next time I’m up that way I’ll drop you a line. Ps I’m a fan of ‘genus brewing’ (up in North America) ‘the only other guys I’ve watched who get into it @ the kind of molecular level that you seem to be. Have you seen their channel? Pretty intense shiit!
That's very interesting i love it
Thanks for watching!
Happy New Year Gash, I'm not really a fan on the idea of filtering my beer but that filtered beer straight from the fermenter certainly makes it worth a look, cheers Gash thanks for sharing 🍻🍻, Mike.
Its not for everyone, in fact, some how I've pissed a lot of people off hahaha people can be so touchy about things.. I dont use it much myself, but it does have its advantages beer stability etc Just an option. Happy New Year!
@@HomeBrewNetwork you pissed people off? Mate you are only sharing your skills nothing wrong with that 😎 keep up the good work! Cheers 🍻🍻
Yeah its very weird lol Strange but true...
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Good one Gash. Good old sod. metabisulphite is making a comeback with it's versatility. All that procedure pays off for good beer, getting away from that "homebrew" reputation is the result. It's just a pity we only make 19L because for not much more work we could make 1900L. Cheers.
Very true mate! I always have some Meta on hand, very handy stuff! Cheers John!
Great info. I am using coopers kits and just getting ready to start kegging. I a have the same filter using for my RV. I plan on using a table to bottler so I can have beer for camping. As I won't be able to filter coming out of coopers fermenter can I filter from the keg as I bottle. Thanks for any help you can give. Rob
Thinking of using this for my moonshine. (the flavor recipe, not alcohol)
THANKS
No worries!
Don't worry bro- it's not just the Crohn's, I get gut rumbles and gassiness from (most) homebrew too. Doesn't mean I'm gonna quit though!
"not out the top end anyway", yes some non fltered ales i've produced, I've farted like a cart horse, the nexty day with all sorts of pains overnight. So this is a great vid for me.
#1) It is great that you mentioned purging the filter by filling it with something and pushing it out with CO2.
#2) You make a great point about Starsan having a bunch of O2 in it that will eventually make its way into the beer. I like that you are using Potassium Metabisulphate. Good call.
What is the brand name of Potassium Metabisulphate and where did you get it ? I've never seen a bottle of it before.
Good video.
I'm guessing you already found your answer, but for anyone else, it looks like he is holding "Brigalow Home Brew Sodium Metabisulphite". I'm guessing any homebrew online store would have something similar.
great video. I have one that I have been using for over a year now. Unfortunately the o-ring gasket split, I cannot find one that fits it anywhere. Any idea who might sell them?
Hey Gash, instead of using the Metabisulphite could you purge the filter cartridge with CO2 gas instead?
Great vid Gash, I've been using the kegland filter setup for a while now and it's been getting great results on clarity in my lagers it has also been terribly bad for oxidizing my beers no matter how much I flush both kegs and the filter housing with cO2 in around 14-21 days in the keg the filtered beer is that oxidized it's almost undrinkable.
Unless I'm brewing a keg of lager for a party where I know it's going to be consumed very quickly I'm going back to gelatin for clarifying my lagers.
Thats very strange! Wonder where it getting it from? Star San maybe? Cheers!
@@HomeBrewNetwork the starsan was my thoughts too because of the water in the starsan causing the oxidation, the only thing I haven't tried is filtering through a dry cartidge that I've flushed with CO2, I'll give that a go in the next few weeks and see if I get the same staling setting in in the usual 14-21 day period
@@b00gn1sh666 did you ever solve the oxidation?
@@bsaurusrex yeah, I have stopped using StarSan in my kegs and I no longer use the kegland filter unless its specifically for a party where the keg is going to be rinsed in one night and i need to speed up the lagering process. Starsan just introduces excess water to the keg and is not necessary, fermented beer is stable and has such a low ph that it won't get infected if its kept cold, as long as your kegs are clean and fully flushed with co2 you'll be good.
@@bsaurusrex also I should point out that I can't use SMB on my beer as I have friends and family that are asthmatics and that stuff makes them crook.
Great video - breaks the old "strips flavor" argument right out. Cheers!
Cheers mate!
You can get out that last bit of residual sanitizer from the filter by inverting it and blowing it off trough the air valve
Great tip! Cheers!
Hey Gav, been watching a few of your videos with interest. Looking at getting a decent homebrew kit setup, hopefully this year's tax return will get me everything I need (looking at a digiboil 35 for a HLT, robobrew 65 and undecided on wether to go fermzilla and keg or just stick to a conical fermenter and bottles). I also noticed you've got st george on your fridge and in some older vids an origin magnet, i work between condabri and spring gully myself. Do you do a 2/2 and if so how do you find brew schedules on a roster?
No mate, I'm just a stay at home Dad looking after my little girls, I used to work all around the country but not since my daughter was born 8 years ago! You'll love kegging.. Maybe start with a cheaper all rounder rather than the fermzilla?? Cheers!
I see you attached non duotight fittings. What did you use and what threading do they use?
Hey @thehomebrewnetwork I'm looking at investing in this exact setup for my homebrewery. Outside of clarification does the 1 micron filter change the mouthfeel at all on the beets? Aka does it crisp up the mouthfeel a bit via stripping proteins?
Was this fermented under pressure? If so wouldn't it be carbonated coming out of the fermzilla?
Cool stuff man. How many times do you use the same filter?
you can use a heap of times if you clean it properly! Cheers!
Hello sir. Thank you for sharing this video. I have a question. I wanna filter my home brewing beer. But I'm worried about that it causes problem for bottling stage and carbonisation. And Eventually filtering produce flat beer. What is your advise? (Sorry I'm so bad in english)
Hi mate, where are brewing courses available in australia? I'm really keen to do one
Thank you for this video! What is the sanitizer you're using after the bicarbonate to clean the filters? Didn't see it in your list in the description.
Usually sodium Metabisulphite Cheers!
I am really curious. Can you bottle condition and carb after filtering?
Hi, what size is the hose line to filter and the disconnect for beer flow....???
Where did you get the "pressure relief valves"? The red ones?
Just found the channel! Gettin into the brew myself just bought some glasses! TY for the info.
Welcome and thanks for watching! Cheers!
Is there really all that much improvement on clarity for the effort? I generally find I have pretty clear beer after cold crashing and let sit for two days. Any sediment that does go over to the keg comes out in the first glass but I havn't really noticed much.
what size connecting fitting to use.. and what size hose to use ???????? Thx !!!
Great video... but you're cleaning one time use filters? Or are there reusable ones that I'm just not finding?
They are cleaned and reused, see end of video. Cheers!
How many times would you expect to reuse a one micron filter for filtering a batch of beer? I personally have disposed of filters after one use and have not bothered to clean them. Which is not necessarily economical by any stretch of the imagination but it is certainly more effective in the long run. What are your thoughts on that?
Either spend hours working a job to buy new or spend hours cleaning
I'm the same with too much yeast consumption and I don't have an issues like you. So I'm guessing it's kind of common.
After thinking i had chill haze in my last two beers and making more hoppy beers.. I decided to try filtration and to use an 12v air vac pump to pull sanitizer from 19l keg through filter into a receiving keg. then vac fresh water. and then starsan. Once everything is clean. i drain out the 19l keg. and the filter. put the filter in line from the fermenter bucket with a syphon tube. Close the inlet valve of filter and pressurize and purge with Co2. then i fit the vac pump to the co2 port of the 19l keg start vacing and open the filter inlet. This pulls the beer from the fermenter bucket through the filter into the keg. Although it looks like air is being pulled in. this is actually Co2 coming out of the beer. I watch the level in the bucket as it gets close to 19l empty i watch the clear vac line and stop when foam starts getting drawn up the vac line. This results in perfectly clear . No noticeable loss in flavour , but flat beer. Which i force carbonate. Brilliant for speeding up clearing time and beer to transport without having to let the sludge settle out again.. Not sure about shelf life as it all gets consumed very quickly. I dismantle the filter wash it under a tap. And then reassemble and do repeated cleans of sanitizer and water and starsan again using the vac pump to pull the cleaners from a small keg through the filter into a receiving. leaving sanitizer in the filter. ready for another pre wash before transferring the next ready brew 1micron filter clears everything. the Air vac pump can't pull liquids through it directly . So the principle is to create lower air or co2 pressure in the receiving vessel. Works really well rather than using pressure to move the liquids. As it's not possible to pressurise a lid type fermenter. bucket .And syphoning through a filter would be very slow or ineffective method due to the filter resistance.
Used the filter 5 times. and now it is blocked. Even trying doing an i line filter keg to keg forced by Co2. Purchased amazon 1 micron filters that look like foam tubes. And they failed to clear the beer at all. . My conclusion is that they are not 1 micron. I have now purchased 1 micron beer filter specific filters. Although far more expensive. And will try to pass the beer back again through these. Filtering is a faff. But if you want a fast brew clear keg beer that can be transported. Filtering is the way.
Used the new filter as per the original 1 micron . And i can confirm that the foam style filters are not 1 micron. So be sure to get the filters that have like a white cloth/paper inner with a honeycomb outer mesh. And not use the cheaper foam version that look like short lengths of swimming float. They are not 1 micron.
please list the meta bisulphate concentration mix !!! measurement !! plz !!!
Other benefits of this method is transportation of kegs as there is no yeast sediment. And so can be drank without the need to sit.
Can i filter my brew without the keg system and the co2 tanks etc ?
Hey Gash. I came across this video when looking for ways to reduce oxygen exposure when kegging IPAs. I'd read that StarSan can cause some oxidation and like you I'm keen to go the extra mile to reduce this. How long does a SMB solution remain potent? I push StatSan from keg to keg over and over again and it lasts yonks. Could I do the same with SMB or is it a one time use only type deal?
I know it’s been quite a wile and you may have found your answer already. Sodium/ potassium metabisulfite stops being effective after about 24 hours. The free sulfur levels drop below a certain threshold and it becomes ineffective at sanitizing.
Did you bother to cold crash before filtering?
I picked up that same filter you use in the video. I've used it once following your steps to filter 5 gallons of light lager. I'm getting ready to filter another batch and wondering how many times (approx) the filter will last. I only purchases one but think it might be good to have two or three on hand as backups. How long has your re-usable filter lasted?
Clean it well and it'll do dozens of batches mate, cheers!
"I've raved on for too long, ill hook up the filter now"
*Continues to rave for 3 more minutes*
xD
Did you take a before and after picture?
I'm thinking of getting one of these, theyre not especially expensive, but i do worry that it will take time cleaning. But since i started fermenting under pressure, i have a lot less cleaning to do anyways. Perhaps it's worth it.
I prefer to use biofine or the like, but this works too, Cheers!
Great idea for filter by this domestic RO wall mounted 10 microns filter. We can have cane tied across PVC pipes and Filter the beer
Cotton fabrics can Filter by wrapping around the PVC pipes with whole across it and outer PVC pipes etc 2imcbes diameter.....say 3 Inches outer PVC pipes and 2inch inner small pieces housings make brilliant and economical Filter. Used in submersible pump tubewell in India.....we can also make blotting paper cotton fabrics filter
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I enclose transfer just under gravity. Will it still work with the fiter or does it need pressure to push the beer through the filter?
gravity, I'm not sure, I think it would work but might take a week. Cheers!
There is a better way to clean the filter. Hook it up *backwards* to the keg that is filled with the sterilizing solution and push sterilizing solution through it backwards and into the drain. It is called back flushing. Then store the filter element in the freezer so that nothing grows on it until you use it next time.
I dabble in LoDo so I'm used to dosing wort etc. with Sodium Metabisulphate but I've not seen it used like this. Interested in what dosage of SMB you're using in this application? It's very old school as a sanitiser and all the documentation used to tell you to rinse after sanitising with it.
Old school yes, rinse no, not at all, good drain is all. about half or more of listed.. It was always a good thing, it works. What stopped it was the fear of asthmatics etc that try and breathe it in... thats the good thing about it... the oxy scavenging ....
@@HomeBrewNetwork so what rate grams per litre? I'm working with campden tablets.
Cool😎👍
Great video what size filter
10 inch 1 micron Cheers!
I've been told by an experienced brewer that if you're going to filter a beer that you should let condition for a few weeks first. What are your thoughts on this. I'm about to keg an all in brewing kassaki and not sure if I should filter into keg from my all rounder?
I don’t think that’s right, but that could very well be beer dependent, If you’re beers ready, it’s ready. If it isn’t ready than the conditioning maybe be quicker before filtering than after but this also comes down to size of filter, if its small enough to strip the yeast out and your beer isn’t finished I can see issues. Cheers!
Could you give the sanitizer you used again and a source?
Which one? the umm this stuff www.kegland.com.au/ethyl-sanitiser-spray-1000ml.html?cmid=U1VxL0FMYmxTRzA9&afid=NHRQa2ViaTBnT0k9&ats=V2dpVFFYTmszWDA9 Cheers!
Does this filtering change or remove flavour or is that a myth
Why you dont do gelatins which is natural , and yet you are fine with cleaning agent in the beer?
You mentioned that fermzilla needs to be tight to get a good seal. That is a false assumption as the seal mechanism on that is based on the collar of vessel pushing the O-ring to the lid so the o-ring only has to be between there and I never tighten my fermzilla any more than light finger tight for easy opening. In this filter ofcourse the lid pushes the seal whent tightened so in this case it does matter.
I meant more that the thread was the same, agree totally, I saw that in the edit, but was too late to change. Cheers mate!
Hi Gavin, what are the ratios you use of SMB to water?
For this situation I dont muck around, I used about a 12 level teaspoons for the keg, just make sure you flush a bit of beer through before going into the keg. Cheers!
can you please tell us what concentration of sodium metabisulfite you are using to sanitise? surprisingly hard to find directions online, all i can see is 8tsp per 4L which seems kinda.. like way more than i want to use, but i dont know. Thanks mate
I don't measure either it's just a couple of good teaspoons into a bucket. Doing it to packet recommendations seems extreme, depending on labelling of course, some say huge amounts
@@HomeBrewNetwork thanks for the reply! will be filtering a red IPA in a couple of weeks and want to keep it as fresh and oxygen free as i can
You could back flow water through the filter to force out everything and no need to break down the system
You could! Though I just save some CO2 and even after I'd done that, I'd still have to break it down to dry, or store in solution, but I dont use it very much and its really no trouble just to unscrew it. Also keep my cleaning OCD happy hahaha Cheers!
Is that a 1 micron absolute or the much cheaper nominal filter type?
I tried a 1 micron absolute and it took ages to pass the beer through it.
I haven't bothered since.
I probably should dust it off and give it another go.
Absolute link is in the description, Ie never had troubles with them, wonder why you did? Cheers Gerry!
@@HomeBrewNetwork Probably something dumb I did. Thanks, mate I'll give it a shot next time I need a nice clear beer. For me, I don't mind a bit of haze.
Maybe when it's cooler and I'm doing pilsner/lager again.
Cheers!