I like Mike's view of things (e.g. how he prefers old school Ganon to the humanoid post-OOT Ganondorf). I think In fantasy stories there is an art of mystique. That is, how an author/creator references historical events within the fantasy world without showing them. The imagination of the reader is much more powerful than anything the author could actually show. So, for example, the *idea* of how Anakin Skywalker fell to the Dark Side and became Darth Vader is much more interesting than any movie could have actually portrayed it. This mystique is always at its peak in the early stages of a fantasy story, that's why its so noticeable in the early Zelda games. Now everything in Zelda (like most things in Star Wars) has been "standardized." They aren't myths and legends anymore. Now there is official canon, an official everything. Even an official way characters *look* (e.g. Zelda always has that kind of Elvish aesthetic post OOT). That has its advantages too, since an established way of doing things makes expanding the world more easy, but the fantasy world necessarily loses its mystique, and that's a lot.
I've never played Zelda 2 before, but now thanks to you mike I sorta feel like I have. Thanks for consistently talking and keeping it entertaining. I hate when streamers just sit there and don't say anything. Why watch someone play a game if they're not gonna say funny stuff?
I miss the pieces of paper you had to get in order to buy video games at Toys R Us. They never should have stopped that. Or remodeled the stores for that matter.
Trivia: When asked about it in an interview, Shigeru Miyamoto stated, that of all the games he had been involved with, Zelda II was the one he was least pleased with, because the development process went too smoothly. - Usually, there are moments during the process where you question your work or come up with new ideas or just bump into problems, but none of that really happened during the production of Zelda II.
Something I feel could have improved on Zelda II was getting maps and compasses for the palaces. They could have sorta looked like the map in Super Metroid to adjust for this being a platforming kind of game. Need to ask Mike this during a stream next time.
Best way to level is to go to level 4 and hit the knight statue to spawn a red knight. Kill it get 200 points and go back and go it again. some times you will get a red potion to.
51:20 didn't see anything on the stream, but unless the input capacitor blows up, it should keep running as the 7805 voltage regulator is fairly stable even without input filtering.
This is pedantic, but imo ‘farming’ is when you kill lots and lots of enemies in search of a specific item or items. If experience points are the only goal, then I’d call it ‘grinding’.
+George Mcqueen Your critisism is welcome but not exactly constructive. Care to explain why you think my analysis is "shit"? I was refering to the term farming and its possible origins.
I've looked around and I can't find specs for equipment you use to stream nes and snes to the pc. The gear you are using is flawless and I would love to know what you use. Thanks for doing the videos! Keep it up man!
Death Mountain only came too early because you played through it before beating the second palace. The game designers intended for you to beat the second palace, thus leveling a bit, THEN go through Death Mountain.
I'm sure everyone else around not into gaming refers to "Farming" as "Wasting your time". -Oh god, I remember my Toys R Us did the same thing... I remember seeing Mega Man 7 once... Why I didn't get it? I may never know...
This game is so hard, I have everything(magic spells, full magic metters, full life metter) but Im stuck on the valley of death, the game is good but really hard, btw I like your streams mike (:
Mike have you played The Addams Family on NES? It's a pretty cool game and since it's Halloween time it would be nice if you would do a live stream or play it with James or Ryan on J&M Mondays. Btw I really enjoy watching those live streams. Keep it up!
+George Mcqueen Actually I think there is 3 SNES Addams games, but I guess you're talking about the side-scrolling one, where you control Gomez. It came out in 1992 (on SNES) and then a year later they did a NES version, but they totally redesigned everything (the graphics, the layout but also the gameplay which is less linear). Although it has some similarities it's a quite different game.
Attempting Temple #4 with one life was stupid? I don't know Mike, the time spent on getting the extra life is probably in comparison of traveling back to the temple after getting three lives as you game over.
i wish my nes zelda 2 still saved damn battery died on mine can still play but to really play this game with out saving is hell so i got my zelda 3ds with every zelda game currently on 3ds eshop in it and can play again but its not the same :/
i love zelda 2 because its the only one in this style so if they where to make a new Zelda game like this i would love it on 3ds not WiiU console's should be reserved for the third person Zelda's. portable systems should only have top down / side scrolling Zelda's i am ok with N64 remake's but don't you dare put twilight princess on 3ds. it's my opinion so if you agree that's ok if you don't fine by me just posting a statement.
It does take some of the challenge out of the combat, but you can always choose not to use it. The jumping bird Knights (fokkas) however, require such cheapness if you want to stay sane...
+Angry Gen X'er It bites him in the ass on the blue ones, though. If you learn to fight the Orange and Red ones the right way, then the Blue ones aren't any more difficult, as long as you can back them up to a wall.
my take on this game - was at the time there was two zelda games.... 1 and 2... people didnt like this becaseu it was not as good (so it was the "worse" zelda game) that being said - this game is fucking awesome, just not the better of the two nes zeldas.
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Farming is when you're collecting things like crafting materials, grinding is killing enemies just to level up.
You could think of it as farming XP.
I like Mike's view of things (e.g. how he prefers old school Ganon to the humanoid post-OOT Ganondorf). I think In fantasy stories there is an art of mystique. That is, how an author/creator references historical events within the fantasy world without showing them. The imagination of the reader is much more powerful than anything the author could actually show. So, for example, the *idea* of how Anakin Skywalker fell to the Dark Side and became Darth Vader is much more interesting than any movie could have actually portrayed it. This mystique is always at its peak in the early stages of a fantasy story, that's why its so noticeable in the early Zelda games. Now everything in Zelda (like most things in Star Wars) has been "standardized." They aren't myths and legends anymore. Now there is official canon, an official everything. Even an official way characters *look* (e.g. Zelda always has that kind of Elvish aesthetic post OOT). That has its advantages too, since an established way of doing things makes expanding the world more easy, but the fantasy world necessarily loses its mystique, and that's a lot.
I remember being a bit disappointed that the Ocarina of Time gold cartridge didn't glint like the Zelda II cartridge
The mace-wielding boss of Temple #5 is called Gooma. Also, that was a great fight!
I will finally try to beat this game after watching your play through, Mike. Thanks!
I just LOVE the Zelda live streams. Damn good games and good playthrough rambling by Mike.
I remember going to Toys R Us and getting Double Dragon for the 7800, the store had the same set up
I've never played Zelda 2 before, but now thanks to you mike I sorta feel like I have. Thanks for consistently talking and keeping it entertaining. I hate when streamers just sit there and don't say anything. Why watch someone play a game if they're not gonna say funny stuff?
It's awesome that you're playing this. I got so frustrated with the game as a kid, I never picked it back up as an adult. Maybe some day I will :)
When did you get the fireball? It feels like we missed something.
I want to konw to, cant read the answers
It’s been badly cut for RUclips had to jig saw it together from other vids
I miss the pieces of paper you had to get in order to buy video games at Toys R Us. They never should have stopped that. Or remodeled the stores for that matter.
Trivia: When asked about it in an interview, Shigeru Miyamoto stated, that of all the games he had been involved with, Zelda II was the one he was least pleased with, because the development process went too smoothly.
- Usually, there are moments during the process where you question your work or come up with new ideas or just bump into problems, but none of that really happened during the production of Zelda II.
Fun fact: In the Japanese version, the only way to pick up items was to hit them with your sword. So when you go and rescue the child..
The white ghost things are Wizzrobes, while the orange witch firethrowers are just called Sorcerers... yeah.
Something I feel could have improved on Zelda II was getting maps and compasses for the palaces. They could have sorta looked like the map in Super Metroid to adjust for this being a platforming kind of game. Need to ask Mike this during a stream next time.
good video
Agggghh I always miss the live streams! now I have a tooma :\
+Ace Mcool IT'S NOT A TOOMA!! IT'S NOT A TOOMA!
chuckobscure enough philosophy
Why such a huge gap between the two parts?
1:22:53 loved always doing that part after u knock the devil out with the flute.
Best way to level is to go to level 4 and hit the knight statue to spawn a red knight. Kill it get 200 points and go back and go it again. some times you will get a red potion to.
Wish I had known about this stream. I would’ve helped you out.
@38:56 "that's this version's game of a wizrobe" ummmm... lol.
I thought farming was when you had animals and sowed the soil and shit.
+Sadpants McGee no, thats bump and grinding.
lol me 2 i just call it leveling up or collecting items or something
51:20 didn't see anything on the stream, but unless the input capacitor blows up, it should keep running as the 7805 voltage regulator is fairly stable even without input filtering.
This is pedantic, but imo ‘farming’ is when you kill lots and lots of enemies in search of a specific item or items. If experience points are the only goal, then I’d call it ‘grinding’.
Pee + Ocean = Potion
livestream just ended guys. it's not live.
I think farming is also a term that can be used to substitute grinding. It's a farm, takes a while to grow and takes a while to level up in this case.
what shit analysis
+George Mcqueen Your critisism is welcome but not exactly constructive. Care to explain why you think my analysis is "shit"? I was refering to the term farming and its possible origins.
+Ripper Bou grinding is when you kill enemy's farming is when you collect items STUPID
Hey Mike, they should make a t-shirt "we're farming!" And adding link lol
Mike missed a couple heart containers before level 4. There were at least 3 or 4 he could of picked up before he used the raft.
Damn, I think Mike missed the goodies in the graveyard. Haven't fully watched but I can't see him going back.
love the let's plays though! keep it up.
I always miss these =/
Mike's wave in the beginning ಥ‿ಥ
1:08:23 Oh no, he didn't... shoot his sword beam at you while you were picking up the item?
I've looked around and I can't find specs for equipment you use to stream nes and snes to the pc. The gear you are using is flawless and I would love to know what you use. Thanks for doing the videos! Keep it up man!
so fun to watch
Did you beat the last two levels yet!?
Death Mountain only came too early because you played through it before beating the second palace. The game designers intended for you to beat the second palace, thus leveling a bit, THEN go through Death Mountain.
Still too early. death mountain should be the very last stage.
doctor fienstone But it was already the last stage in the original game.
Ok?
doctor fienstone Ok.
+doctor fienstone nah it's not that hard. It's plenty doable once you know the path and you have leveled up enough after 2nd palace.
Level 5 is the only level that confuses me every time I play it.
This is actually more like a cross between Final Fantasy and Mario World
@ 45:50 onwards. 8 bit windwaker, 8 bit jesus...
I can remember that with toys r us. man the nostslgia
Why didn't you put the questions at the end on this video?
Mike keep the streams comin i fuckin love even games i dont like turn out good
Man your voice is so damn soothing lol, good video btw
it was called "building up your shit".
I liked Zelda 2 alright, but not nearly as much as Zelda 1 and Link to the Past.
Good stream!
I'm not sure if remember correctly but I think you can beat the temple within the rocks without the key I might be wrong though
I'm sure everyone else around not into gaming refers to "Farming" as "Wasting your time".
-Oh god, I remember my Toys R Us did the same thing... I remember seeing Mega Man 7 once... Why I didn't get it? I may never know...
oh how do u find out when it is and where to go? is it live on RUclips or there website
+Cinemassacre Extras cool video did u answer my question
+Cinemassacre Extras what do you do once you go there?
+th3saints I have the RUclips Gaming App on my Phone, when he goes live i get an alert, then i ChromeCast it to my TV. Easy-Peasy.
One day I shall finish this beast of a game lol never got past lvl 2 as a kid. Got to 8 in the original but my cart deleted :( so pissed
It's Miller time.
How do I make a live stream
Good video Mike
Farming is when you collect items. GRINDING is when you level up. How can you screw that up?
what the fuck does it matter?
Kyle Massie It's better to have correct information instead of being wrong, and spreading misinformation. Why are you crying?
Spreading misinformation? Trollolol
This game is so hard, I have everything(magic spells, full magic metters, full life metter) but Im stuck on the valley of death, the game is good but really hard, btw I like your streams mike (:
thanks
You can fly through the locked doors with fairy.
kuunami Your brothers SOUL is MINE
I would like to see a live stream of Alfred and the Fettuc
Mike have you played The Addams Family on NES? It's a pretty cool game and since it's Halloween time it would be nice if you would do a live stream or play it with James or Ryan on J&M Mondays. Btw I really enjoy watching those live streams. Keep it up!
i have it on snes got to the last stage can't do it to hard is it the same on nes but less graphics?
+George Mcqueen Actually I think there is 3 SNES Addams games, but I guess you're talking about the side-scrolling one, where you control Gomez. It came out in 1992 (on SNES) and then a year later they did a NES version, but they totally redesigned everything (the graphics, the layout but also the gameplay which is less linear). Although it has some similarities it's a quite different game.
+Kurosaberu yes the one with gomez its good but not the best i bought it for seven pounds and now its 20 on amazon
I thought it was called "level grinding".
pokemon and Zelda are the only gold I need
So farming now replaces grinding? I'll still probably call it leveling up.
+JohnnyDeppFan1433
you grind xp, you farm items
Mike I know you have Bootsy Beats but you guys should do a modern version of Gamepro TV.
mike whats your next live stream gonna be maybe batman for nes?
is this live? I never did this before.
No it's not when a video is like you will see a recording red dot with test saying LIVE
Attempting Temple #4 with one life was stupid?
I don't know Mike, the time spent on getting the extra life is probably in comparison of traveling back to the temple after getting three lives as you game over.
Why is mike talking like he's a complex character. He's a one dimensional point dexter mike
This game is Epic. I had the toughest time with those dungeon knights; I didn't know you could jump and stab the helmets for guaranteed damage.
it sure brings back 1991
sad the game has been beat already. I love this one so much
+LuciousShowcase What are you talking about, this game is almost 30 years old, everyone's beaten it by now, I dont know what you're trying to say.
+Ghouse666 sad that the live stream is over already silly. he beat it in two sessions. I always forget how quickly you can beat it
+LuciousShowcase He didn't beat it yet ...
somehow I missed this stream entirely he beat the game in a stream a few hours ago
+rickyrico80 Yeah he did. He had a stream earlier today where he finished the game. I guess it will be up on YT later today or maybe tomorrow.
i wish my nes zelda 2 still saved damn battery died on mine can still play but to really play this game with out saving is hell so i got my zelda 3ds with every zelda game currently on 3ds eshop in it and can play again but its not the same :/
just reamember the sages names from ocarina of time
where do I go to chat?
Second time I got Mike to acknowledge me! @45:30 yeah I know who cares.. I do dammit! I've been watching these guys since 2006!
I know the feeling.
If your just going for points I would call that grinding.
i love zelda 2 because its the only one in this style so if they where to make a new Zelda game like this i would love it on 3ds not WiiU console's should be reserved for the third person Zelda's. portable systems should only have top down / side scrolling Zelda's i am ok with N64 remake's but don't you dare put twilight princess on 3ds. it's my opinion so if you agree that's ok if you don't fine by me just posting a statement.
Play ninja gaiden 3 and castlevania on nes
Mike's ironknuckle technique is so cheap.
It does take some of the challenge out of the combat, but you can always choose not to use it. The jumping bird Knights (fokkas) however, require such cheapness if you want to stay sane...
I agree.
+Angry Gen X'er It bites him in the ass on the blue ones, though. If you learn to fight the Orange and Red ones the right way, then the Blue ones aren't any more difficult, as long as you can back them up to a wall.
where's the chat
Links awakening?
Your Timing with some Enemies is Terrible! Lol
I thought from the beginning porn would start
oink
I don't want to be "that guy" but what your doing is grinding, not farming. farming is when you try to accumulated specific items.
chuckobscure ouch! You have me there sir, touchè.
He is Grinding though.
my take on this game - was at the time there was two zelda games.... 1 and 2... people didnt like this becaseu it was not as good (so it was the "worse" zelda game)
that being said - this game is fucking awesome, just not the better of the two nes zeldas.
i would say this is a poor game with great gameplay. its not fair to criticize it because it's only aged bad, it should have had a sequel (zelda 3?)
oh how do u find out when it is and where to go? is it live on RUclips or there website