Analog APRS Setup and Demo on the Anytone AT-D878UV Ham Radio
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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Hey, Thanks. I had APRS set up on my Anytone 878 years ago, and it was no longer set up for whatever reason. I had forgotten how to set it up so I did not want to scratch my head again to figure it out. Your video pushed me in the right direction. Very clear and to the point. Great job.
Awesome! Glad this helped!
Thanks this exact setup got us going for the AnyTone AT-D578UV. This is working. The only thing we changed was the destination to APJYC SSID 1. This is very important. Also just to confirm we put the preamble and the tx delay to 600ms which worked perfect for our APRS. The packets are flying out! Also in the channel, we utilised the 25khz deviation. Good video!
Thanks I was struggling to get this to work and now it does!
I appreciate all the effort that went into this video! I wish it wasn't this hard to send a simple text message via radio using 30 year old tech though.
Agreed
Excellent APRS setup video for AT-878UV. CPS/Radio. Some questions were answered and some learning was accomplished. Sweet 73’s
So far, the best explained information on RUclips for instructions on setting up APRS on an Anytone. I just received a D-578, and am excited to get this up and running over the Holiday break! Thank you for your time and efforts to this great hobby! 73
Glad you enjoyed this...good luck!
@@SevenFortyOne By the way, I am in Helena, MT. I saw MT plates on you vehicle in another video. 73 de N7JFF
Im in CT.. take a closer look at the plate. I collect them and use them as easter eggs in my videos. 73!
I was having trouble with my D-578 doing APRS. Followed the video now it works. Thanks so much.
Thank you for the video! It was great to see Dana's callsign in your setup, I need to raise him one of these days now that we're back on the east coast. 73!
This video was extremely helpful - thank you. My only suggestion would be to change TOCALL to APAT81 which is for the Anytone AT-D878. 73 NC9J
I was originally told that it was APZ878. This was shortly after I got My 878UV Plus in October of 2019. When did that change? I will will try that though, because I have been having trouble getting it to transmit on APRS since january. KC9SIO
Huzzah! These tips worked first time. I'm not sure which setting made the difference. Good presentation.
Hi Rob, WE1SAX Jim here. Liked your video and timely too as I just won Ham Radio 2.0 Black Friday giveaway and received a new Anytone D578UV and was thinking of giving the Analog APRS / GPS a try. I believe within the past 2 or 3 weeks we had a QSO on W1BRS repeater. Yes, I am a local guy. Thanks again for your primer here. 73
Congrats on winning the package from Jason! Glad to see someone local get it! I have to apologize as I don't recall our conversation on the bears machine. Feel free to give me a shout sometime. I monitor that machine quote a bit and am on during the weekdays between 4 and 4:40 during my commute.
Man this was great. Much appreciated info.
Nice video. There sure are a lot of options on that radio. It looks like you have it working well. 👍
Great video. I followed this and it worked.
Thanks for your great video, I will follow your instruction and setup.
Very well explained. Thanks!
Thanks for the information & explanation. Vy 73 from cold Moscow
Thanks for the video, I've been wanting to explore the APRS capabilities of my AT878, but didn't have a clue where to begin. Looking forward to playing with it. I've enjoyed your other videos as well. Tom KE0JVS
Good luck Tom and thanks for watching!
@@SevenFortyOne Success! Got the AT878 running with the APRS, tracking on the map and all seems good. I may need to go back in and set the TX for a more frequent signal. Right now it transmits every 3 or 4 mins. Any suggestions? Thanks again for your help. KE0JVS
@@tomkeady1750 great! Glad you got yours working! If you are mobile then 1 minute or even 30s might be better depending on how many digis are in your area. If you are on foot, then maybe 5 minutes or so is good. Fixed stations are usually set to 10 or 20 min.
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Very good expression. I did it. Thank you 73's
Thanks for sharing. One question: for automatic reporting to work, are we required to leave the radio tuned to the APRS signal? I have everything working, except for automatic sending. 73, Jason VA7ITJ
Question- I am a new Technician and new to APRS. So I see that you do the manual tx on the channel but that will automatically Tx without doing anything with it?
Yes - you can set it to transmit APRS packets at specified intervals
Thanks for the videro!
I have an older 878uv. Would you know if firmware 1.25 or higher will let you send Analog APRS messages on 144.39? Currently I can only send analog APRS positioning transmissions. I know my 878uv cannot receive APRS but was wondering if firmware 1.25 or higher allows for transmitting APRS analog messages to any radio with APRS analog receive. Its a bit confusion the way they describe it in the Change log. Thanks,
Sorry, I don't know the answer
@@SevenFortyOne if you have a older 878uv and have firmware 1.25 or higher could you look under APRS let me know if you have Ana APRS SMS ? thanks, Ken
I just put 1.27 firmware on my 878uv. It does work sending Analog APRS messages now. I guess the APRS/BT board is only needed for receiving APRS not transmitting.
I turned on the CTCSS Decode because I didn't want to hear that sound like something I would like to do. I have a 5 db gain antenna on a 60 ft tower. That is much better than any mag mount.
If you set your CTCSS Decode to 100.0Hz then you'll hear other APRS operators in direct range of you whom you can likely talk with on 146.52. It's called "Voice Alert". w4hfh.org/aprs-voice-alert-de-wb4apr
@@BosssyBear Why? I don't want to hear all the noise from this!
Good video. One APRS issue I have is that while my GPS info displays the correct altitude on the 878 screen of where I am, my altitude always appears about 700 ft lower than the altitude of where I am (mountains, flatland, etc.) when looking at my location on aprs.fi. It doesn't matter if I am stationary or mobile. I am on firmware 1.24, though this issue existed on every other firmware load I had. I do see other APRS users in the same area on aprs.fi with the correct altitude, so maybe this issue is not in the digipeater or igate, maybe my radio sends the wrong altitude info even though my radio shows a correct GPS altitude on GPS info. I am not beaconing fixed location coordinates. Any ideas?
Can this radio send/rcv analog APRS msgs? I know it can via DMR, but not sure if in analog mode in event of not being within range of DMR repeater.
My squelch is too low and my radio is always receiving (static), is there a setting I need to change?
i cant get my recieved signals to show up on my radio. what should i do?
is there a way to send APRS analog messaging like Kenwood and Yaesu radios to another radio or to a cell phone.
I don't think there is
Yeah, I hope they can as well. Now I have seconds thoughts. Maybe quite Yeasu FTs are not so bad after all? :)
I did this but the radio only transmits my position when i push the button, I have it set to 300 on the tx timer. any ideas?
I'm not in front of the software now but there is a "tx busy" setting someplace that prevents the radio from transmitting if it is receiving. If you can find that and turn it off it might work.
Can I ask a question??? How do you compare this radio with the FT3DR ?
I don't own and have never used the ft3dr so I really can't answer this. The ft3dr does not have DMR but does have C4fm...vice versa for the anytone. Other than that I don't know what the differences are.
From my research it seems that a side of mentioned DMR vs C4FM a FT radios are quite ie. Often too quite to use in car or noisy env. 878 can be very loud. 878 have great battery life with its 3100 mah.
And it seems that AT 878 can not send APRS messages ie. to email gateway or cellular phones sms gateway when there is no mobile phone coverage in your area for any reason :(
so manual seems to work, and I've matched settings with your automatic setting. but it doesn't seem to be working - any ideas? Other than going to a different digipeater setting are the same, thanks
Update: all seems to be working today, not sure why it wasn't working yesterday. Or what if anything changed. Thanks for the video
I have the latest 578VIIPlus w/Aircraft
I have it receiving APRS text fine while tuned to 144.39 but it will not transmit.
When I switch to another channel it will then start transmitting APRS.
I switch back to the 144.39 channel and it starts receiving text but stops transmitting.
I must be missing something in the setup preventing it from transmitting while
on the same channel as it's receiving APRS. Any clues what could cause this?
Thanks
Ken
There is a setting to prevent transmission if the receiver is active. If that's on it might be the problem. I forget where that setting vis though....might be in the channel entry
@@SevenFortyOne if you can think of it please post. This is driving me crazy. I thought it might be something like that since it works when I am on a different channel.
The transmitting problem was fixed in at least the latest firmware 2.04
Hat's off to you for a GREAT video. Very concise and thorough. I wish all HAM RUclipsr's got us in and out of topic this quickly and effectively. I'll be implementing this shortly. I am confused about the SSID and would be great to see a video that describes what they are, how to select them and why. Thanks! 73 de K6TjO
The ssids are somewhat arbitrary. There is a website that explains it in better detail than I can...search for aprs ssids and you should find it
Excellent content! Straight to the point and extremely useful. Is there some standard lookup or resource page that differentiates the -5 vs -9 to add for the SSID as a recommendation? As a complete noob to APRS it would be nice to have a general guide for things like that. Thanks for the work.
I don't think there is a definitive rule for the ssid. you can do a Google search for it and find a few different suggestions
@@SevenFortyOne thanks for the reply sir.
since APRS is a Packet system we should be able to add both GPS data and text info. Since there is no TNC in the radio have you figured out how to add a variable text message to the packet along with the GPS data??
That destination SSID also tripped me up. I was not able to get any records shown on aprs.fi until I filled it in. Question: does your experience show that it will use other digi-peaters once the one I entered is out of range??
I've watched many videos, setup my radios but they just don't work well at all. Last update was 28 days ago.
APRS is one of those protocols which, if you have no need or desire to experiment, you aren't going to bother with until you need it! I have been working on setup to aid in an upcoming volunteering effort and I really need it working now, so this has been very helpful! Thank you! Regarding igate- does the radio simply choose the path of least resistance or do you ever get involved in choosing which igate to access? Thanks again!
I have not experimented with trying to pick an igate. I've just let whichever igate can hear me report me.
great video, thank you. i am still having a problem. My gps icon on the AT-878 never turned red? Is there something I'm missing.
john k
kb4sga
Dunno if this is the cause, but the first time you turn on the GPS it takes longer to get a lock. I think it needs to download an almanac or something like that. Try giving it 5 or more minutes in a location with decent sky view.
The Anytone AT D878UV Plus has Bluetooth. Can I use it as a base unit to receive APRS packets from an APRS tracker mounted on a mobile unit and with the Bluetooth, relay this information to APRS Droid on a tablet or cellphone ?
Sorry, I'm not sure.
Hello - Thx for the video. What version of FW were you running on the 878 when you programmed and tested APRS in this video. I'm using your settings with 878 v1.16FW and all I can send is packets that do not decode. Thanks!
I'm still running 1.15
@@SevenFortyOne Thanks. If you would please, it seems the "Destination Callsign" and "Destination SSID" fields are critical for me to get Analog APRS to generate packets that APRS receivers like digi's and IGates's will recognize. Putting a digi/IGate call sign in does not seem to work. Instead I have to enter a set of characters that I see in actual APRS AX.25 packet for the Destination ID field, like "APU25N". You did not seem to have this problem. Thoughts? Thanks!
Can you use a program like APRSdroid with a cable connected to the mic/ear port to send/receive messages on APRS?
I'm not sure ... I haven't tried anything like that myself
@@SevenFortyOne I was thinking if it did maybe you could send/RX APRS messages similar to the new 878uv2?
BTECH APRS-K2 is the cable I was thinking of using if it was compatible with the 878
Thanks for the video. I suspect , in order to do "messaging" through Analog APRS you'd need to have a way to connect a cable (in the kenwoods the programming cable works fine for that) and some sort of program like APRS DROID working on a tablet. Also, people do not think it will decode, is that right ?
The 6x2pro is said to be able to send APRS messages. Supposedly they're also working on being able to receive text messages as well.
Since this unit cannot receive APRS packets, does that mean you cannot use this radio with an app (APRS Droid) to track other people using APRS on a map real-time?
Just get an APRS cable.
Can you use aprs if you don't have a computer to program with ?
You need a computer to program this radio
Thanks for this video! I will buy one of this radios, Just a quickly question, have you used this radio to make Satellite DX before?
Not yet, but a friend of mine used one of these to hit the ISS repeater
@@SevenFortyOne Nice! I'm trying to get a walkie talkie radio that can cover DMR and analog radio at the same time for AMSAT Sats. thamks and 73s! TI2GBB
It doesn't work for me. I have been playing around with the settings for a long time to no avail. I have latest 1.18 firmware and CPS. I live in San Diego. Anybody around Southern California who can help me out with the settings?
Get on DMR TG 310014. Lots of guys there with that radio who do both digital and analog APRS with it. Digital APRS is the way to go in San Diego, as there are tons of open brandmeister repeaters that the 878 will report position to in the background while you monitor the DMR repeater, without you ever even knowing. It must be configured correctly in the CPS. It can also roam, and automatically connect to different repeaters automatically while you are mobile.
radios are doing more every day. from the big old tube radio to little HT's
Can i do all that from the keypad on the face of the radio? I dont have a PC, only a tablet and phone.
Im not positive but I think you could...I'm sure it would be quite difficult to do and require a serious amount of Patience
SevenFortyOne Welp, I got one and what a stupid radio. It won’t even go into VFO mode out of the box. People who say you can program it from the key pad may be right but you need a PC to get it into “amateur” mode to make it possible from what if found out. Now I’ll have to sell it off at a loss.
Can you find a friend or family member that would let you use a computer to program it?
SevenFortyOne if it was that easy maybe but it never is. Programing software always causes stress etc. I don’t want to download stuff on someone else’s PC. What really bugs me is the adds for this thing in QST show old men and grandmas smiling away as if it’s a total joy. It’s not. The firmware on the radio is 1.18 by the way. The latest stuff. I think it shipped in “professional” mode which ruins it for me right out the gate.
Do you have to choose between using APRS or actually transmitting voice? Or can it be timed to send a signal when you’re not ragchewing on a frequency?
Also can you keep the volume low while the radio sends the tone or do I have to hear that sound lol
No mention of how to setup or use APRS *receive* on this radio. My understanding is that it cannot be done. If that is the case you should have mentioned it. There is more to APRS than transmitting.
Glad you enjoyed the video! 👍
You cannot see any aprs traffic on the display?
No, this is transmit only right now
@@SevenFortyOne fine.....regarding receiving you have one more video?
@@SevenFortyOne OK I got it! 878 does not receive, but I still have an issue with the TX. Even if it tx my Kenwood D700 does not decode. What's wrong? Thanks
Hate to mention this but this show has an audio problem.
Wrong. Latest Windows update messed with my audio again. Sorry, fine on non Win10 computer.
Found the problem. Since a Win10 update about three months ago, I get a feedback from my mic and if I leave the mic too close to speakers, even if I am not recording the feedback occurs and that is what was distorting your audio. Moved mic and problem gone. Argh.
@@hamrad88 No worries Tom - sorry to hear you are having trouble with your setup.
Very blurry at times and really cant see what your doing and also a bit to fast to keep up have to keep stopping starting and reviewing several times to get or Understand what your doing or did.
WOW no wonder the digipeater owners and operators of the APRS system are livid, people really need to download the official protocol information and study it before transmitting on the APRS frequencies. If you want to experiment do it on an alternate frequency becouse an Improperly set up a APRS stations can cause significant QRM and congestion on the APRS network.
I'm not sure if this is the result of the dumbing down of the amateur radio tests or just being a bit over enthusiastic, but at one time amateur radio operators made sure they knew exactly what they were doing before keying up a radio or experimenting in a mode. There's a lot of erroneous information in this video. setting up an APRS station like this is likely to cause congestion on the APRS network especially if you live in an area with high APRS traffic
just for reference, most geographic areas have an amateur radio group who specifically coordinates the ARPS activity in the area and it's probably a good idea to visit their website or contact them for information on how to properly set up your APRS station to work efficiently within their network.
For example different areas might have different rules regarding digipeater paths.
I remember when I first got into APRS, I must have listened for a month or so capturing packets before I even attempted to transmit. I noticed that the group responsible for maintaining the local APRS system was sending out bulletins with the meeting nights and website information. Asking people specifically not to transmit until they fully understood the protocol, I remember even after reading and understanding all the official APRS protocol information I still did not transmit on the official APRS frequency..
I setup on an alternate frequency and transmitted into a dummy load using a second receiver and computer to decode my packets, I wanted to verify what was being transmitted and insure that the FM deviation was set properly...
nowadays hams treat all this stuff like appliances, they just start guessing on what settings to use without any regard for the official protocols or the people who have spent their own money and time setting up and maintaining these systems....
keep in mind when you use the APRS system you are using other peoples equipment and most of the time they are retransmitting your signal which makes them responsible for your signal, this is why the operators of the APRS system can blackball you, If you fail to follow the proper protocol they can and will blacklist your station..
The moral of the story here is not to take advice from random youtube videos but rather do your due diligence by downloading the official APRS guides and studying it.. If you don't understand what you're reading, then you have no business whatsoever transmitting on the ham bands..
If you truly wanted to offer advice you would have phrased your comment something like this: "Hey, I noticed some mistakes in the presentation. Here are the things I think are wrong and some examples of what I think would work better for you. You can find additional resources on APRS in the following locations..." The passive aggressive insinuations aren't relevant to the point you are trying to make. Furthermore, they discourage new hams from looking to experienced hams like you for help in the first place. Did it ever occur to you that this callous and aloof attitude could be responsible for what you might consider bad operating and not the dumbing down of testing requirements or overenthusiasm as you asserted above? In other words, less experienced hams aren't looking for advice from people that are just going to give them grief for every little transgression. They'll figure things out themselves by making mistakes along the way or simply give up and find a hobby with people that support them instead of tearing them down.
@@SevenFortyOne I literally have over two dozen ARRL Elmer awards, do you know what those are? It's what the ARRL gives you to recognize your contribution in educating and assisting new hams, I'd venture a bet that I've helped more hams than you have. I've been honored with over a dozen lifetime memberships to amateur radio clubs throughout the country. And I used to give presentations and seminars at ham radio events.
The problem is absolutely the dumbing down of the FCC tests. This has allowed for the infiltration of the wacky prepper and militia types into ham radio. At one time amateur radio operators were primarily employed in STEM fields, nowadays amateur radio is loaded with wacky right wing nut jobs who think they're gonna use amateur radio in the civil war they are prepping for.
Did you watch the video's of the jan6th insurrection ? I lost count of how many insurrectionists we're dressed in combat ready tactical gear with bofang HT's strapped to the front of them, You can't turn on a ham radio anywhere without the buffoons on it sounding like Rush Limbaugh on steroids.... the only time they leave is during contests and even then you'll find these nits someplace complaining about the contesters..
To complicate matters RUclips is loaded with bad information. Literally thousands upon thousands of amateur radio videos of self professed experts talking about something they have no idea what they're talking about...
I haven't been on APRS in probably five years, I turn on my APRS gear and start monitoring the network and I'm appalled at what I see, I don't know how the people responsible for operating and maintaining the APRS network are tolerating it, I would say at least 40% of the package being transmitted are improperly configured leading to significant congestion on the network.
For example there's an operator not more than a mile from my house who has an APRS beacon set up as a fixed station beaconing the same position all day long every 30 seconds and he's using the wrong path settings so his packet is being repeated by digipeaters 50 miles away... In other words he's using a path that you would normally use for a low power tracker rather than a fixed station and this is leading to significant congestion in the area from just one beacon. He probably got his information on how to set it up off RUclips rather than actually reading the official documentation. So he set it up like a low power mobile tracker.. I can't figure out for the life of me why the digipeater owners haven't black balled him...
The APRS AX25 protocol and the new paradigm is not that difficult to understand.. My point is but if you're gonna make a video teaching people how to do something then you wanna make sure that you're probably teaching them the correct way to do it. And I'd really hate to think that of all the comments in this thread that I'm the only person here that actually understands the APRS protocol..
Anyhow I'm sure you're a nice guy, and i might have been a little too harsh in my first comment. But it just seems to me that new hams aren't really interested in taking the time to actually learn anything, the number of times I see new hams post TLDR on answers to their questions is ridiculous.. Can you imagine a surgeon or pilot saying sorry TLDR when asked if they read the latest procedures on a surgery or new airplane LOL.
That's one of the reasons why my posts are critical and harsh, i've found that being rude and insulting people is the only way to get this new bread of ham radio op to actually read anything longer than two sentences rather than simply posting TLDR
By the way their is a specific paradigm to follow when configuring an APRS stations tocall and path
www.aprs.org/aprs11/tocalls.txt
You have a nice video but can you please stop calling APRS (analog APRS). It seems this part of the world what’s to change the name. The name have been only APRS for years and its always been digital.
I use the term digital/analog to refer to the operating mode the radio needs to be in. The radio is capable of sending APRS data via DMR which is a separate process to use.
SevenFortyOne I agree but it caused confusion. APRS by definition is digital and it can do more than sudo DPRS and DMR-APRS.
Can this do apps through the ISS?
I've never tried it but I think with a decent antenna you could do it