CDI Stock VS Dynatek Brute Force 650 ATV Test
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- This is a comparison that I did between the stock and Dynatek CDI Module! I am not sponsored by Dynatek and this was purely for my curiosity and I wanted to share my findings!
I was also told by a dealer that I should run premium gas with it and not run the Dynatek box in the winter at minus temps...it apparently makes the engine run really lean and could cause problems! Hope you enjoy!
Note: Dynatek tells me that with the proper jetting, the Dynatek module can be used in cold weather!
That’s pretty incredible. So the Brute Force is factory detuned clearly. That’s okay for me because it’s a beast and at my age, it’s plenty powerful. But to unleash that extra power to wheelie like that is impressive.
Yes, the Brutes are pretty powerful stock but this is only for the carburettor models and really adds the power! I was really surprised at the difference it made! Thanks for watching Craig!
This video got me to buy one for my 04 prairie 700. Man what a difference! Love it!
Awesome, glad the vid helped you out! Happy Trails Man!
@@RobFarrowATV when you popped the wheelies were you in low or high range ...just curious if it's because I have 28s and epi mudder clutch ..I tried full throttling it in in high but it just wanted to spin , when I put it in low it picked the front end up ...didnt know if i just didnt pull up hard enough or what ...my bike is also bored to 665 , kebc deleted , snorkeld, jetted, 2in highlifter lift, and itp steel wheels
@@durtysouthkustomz8862 I believe I was in low gear.
That was a good little demo! Looked like a nice performance boost. Have you noticed any change in fuel consumption, one way or the other? I like the reverse limiter elimination. Is your quad fuel injected? Good video.
+cubbeezx Hey Cubbee, ATV is Carb'd! I don't really watch the fuel consumption on the short rides, I did recently do a 104km ride and was on the throttle pretty good...still had fuel to spare, so I don't think it's dropped that much! Without the Reverse limiter, I tried to do a reverse wheelie but can't seem to get the rear to come up...I think it's because I'm not pulling up on anything on the rear like you would when hanging onto handlebars! Thanks for checking it out and commenting!
Rob Farrow put it in 4 and hold the difflock trigger and lean forward.
Rob Farrow I'm just wondering but does this work on about any four wheeler like a Honda Rancher 350
@@elijahs4wheeling421 hey man I know it’s been 4 years and I seen where no one has gotten back to you but yes there is companies that make them for the Honda rancher 350
I’ve got a 05 and bought the dynatek cdi for mine and what a difference! Great bike love it:)
Awesome, they do make a difference! Happy Trails!
right on nice review thx for sharing
+Metal Gearz Thanks for watching Metal Gearz!
yeah,I thought that you might end up on your butt there for a minute. and you could clearly see a big difference. I'm enjoying my outlander, what a difference it makes in doing my chores. thanks for sharing Rob.
+Veronica Morgan I've come close to flipping it but not yet thankfully! :-) Outlander...nice, gotta get me one of those next spring! Thanks for watching Veronica!
WOW! What a difference! I could even hear it in the throttle response when in neutral.
What would be the reasoning behind a rev limiter in reverse? Seems unsafe to me.
Very interesting BTW. Thanx for sharin'!
+quaddingsous Not 100 percent sure but I'm assuming it is for control, easy to power yourself out of control in reverse! Thanks for commenting and checking the video out Q!
you are correct safety feature , and also some atv's are not geared for the stress that full power can create in reverse gear
So u don’t kill urself in full power reverse
Even though this is a 5 year old comment, the whole point of a reverse rev limiter is so if you get the 4 wheeler stuck, like let’s say you drop into a ditch or a draw and you can’t pull out of it and you reverse it instead, and your in 4wd the 4 wheeler won’t go full power if you slip and hit the throttle wide open, and 180 the 4 wheeler on top of yourself. My prarie has a reverse override for the rev limiter but once the machine gets to a certain angle it completely kills the spark until you come back down.
Basically it’s so grandpa doesn’t snap his neck while out checking the fence
You'll be giving Cubee a run for his money wheelie wise now. It will be nice to see how well it pulls through the sticky stuff. Good comparison video. Thanks
+Pete Pengus I think Cubbee still has a ridiculous horsepower advantage over mine but yeah, I'll give him a run for his money for sure! LOL! Thanks for checking the video out Pete!
Just brought the fun factor up a point or two.
+628DirtRooster Yes, it did! It's a treat to ride now! Thanks for tuning in!
Nice video. I have same machine but 07 with hmf performance exhaust,k&n air filter,dynatek rev box, 2in lift, mud lites. I use just 87 octane gas and I live in Minnesota we get really cold days and still use the cdi. No problems with it.
They are great machines, never had a problem with mine when I had it! I live north of you but I rarely ride in the winter...not a fan of winter anymore! LOL! Thanks for tuning in!
Sweet performance boost for very little effort! At least you got something good outta that last project!
+Dustyn Farrow Yeah, it was nice to have something to show from that project! LOL! Thanks Dustyn!
hey Cool video ! I'm not usually one to go away from stock b/c it usually decreases the reliability, but that thing sure seemed to work ! and if you want some better throttle response, I put a K&N Air filter on my grizzly (only thing I've ever done to it) and I found that to make the response better. thanks for the video !
+Maritimer I'm not big on upgrading from stock either but I got this with the 750 that I was going to rebuild, so I emailed Dynatek to make sure it would fit my machine and then figured I'd give it a shot! Thanks for checking the video out Maritimer!
awesome man, Good upgrade !
yes bie There us go now, I,'ll be investing in one of these for my 2004 v2 cat .
+Jody Doyle Good stuff! Thanks for watching!
Awesome!! I'm pretty sure I'll have one of those for next season.
+Chris McMullen Get ready for some more power! Thanks for watching Chris!
Have you had any problems relating the the cdi all these years later?
Still happy performance wise?
I just picked up an 06 and want to give it a bit more get up and go, but don't want to do any undue damage.
Thanks for the review, you're about the only one out there.
I sold the Brute a couple years ago. The Dynatek was used when I got it so its at least 5 years old and no issues.
I have the exact same bike, I'm sold Rob! >>> Off to E-Bay Dynatek!!!!!
Cool! Makes a big difference, enjoy the extra power! Thanks for watching!
Rob, I have an 2012 650 brute - did you end up having to jet yours? Also, did the bike in this video have a stock air cleaner?
Hi Micah! It's just a plug and play, no jetting...my Brute was stock everything. Happy Trails!
Wow that was a good improvement!
+cooey84 It sure was! Having a blast with the new found power! :-) Thanks for checking the video out!
+Rob Farrow you needed to keep up with cubbee and his wheeliessssss eh
+jwsrules123 LOL! Yeah, it might give me a fighting chance now! :-) Thanks for watching!
+Rob Farrow or just get a 750 brute they wheelie easy if have good tires.
+jwsrules123 I wish Kawasaki had kept up with the times and built a bigger version like the others have! I think I'll be looking at the Can-Am XMR850 for my next ATV!
Thanks.
You're welcome!
nice comparison video , wish they made them for suzuki .
+birdinwithblue Too bad they don't make them for your machine, they are a definite power boost! Thanks for checking the video out!
I saw a previous comment that you said you put the stock back in when it got colder outside. Is this necessary?
Ya, apparently when it gets below zero it can cause the engine to run lean and possibly cause damage...so easy to just switch it out for the stock one.
Is a brute force a bike that needs a lot of tinkering? What is the maximum kilometers/mileage would you say to buy one? I'm just wondering if they are a good budget bike or if they fleece your pockets.
No, very good stock! Loved my Brute, very reliable and with the Dynatek had lots of power! I think mine had 4500kms in 8 years when I sold it and it could go a lot more I'm sure! They are a great trail bike, I just decided I wanted to do more mud, that's why I bought the Can Am XMR 850! Thanks for tuning in!
Mine has 2500 miles and I don’t think I’ve changed the oil since I had it . I had it since 300 miles lol still does not burn oil and has plenty of power. I highly recommend a brute force. Mine is a 2008 650
Did you re- jet after you put in the dynatek cid box
No, didn't do anything but plug her in. I did hear that it leans the machine out and could do damage in really cold weather but we don't ride much in the winter.
did u had some problem since you change because im not sure if i change or not?
Nope, no problems at all! Still running great! Thanks for watching!
Where can i get the rear seat box thing. I have a 07 650. And that awesome see through bag over thr air breather box. Looks like this cdi works awesome
It's a Kimpex box www.kimpex.com/en-ca/products/atv/trunks-and-boxes I can't remember where I got the bag though.
That's bad ass, plug & play. #Awesome #Wheelie
+BikeLife Savage It's pretty amazing the difference it made for something that easy to change! Thanks for watching!
Rob Farrow you're absolutely right, you already know what I'm getting for spring. ;)
No problem, I enjoy watching everybody's videos.
Rob - Can I use the Dynatek CDI for my 2002 Prairie 650? How much more top speed (if any) did it add? Sorry, I know this was years ago, but just saw your video. Thanks!
If it's a carbureted engine, you should be able to get one for it. Get in contact with Dynatek to make sure that you can though. I can't remember if there was any top speed gain...I imagine there was a little anyway. Happy Trails!
@@RobFarrowATV Ok will do! Thanks for replying!
No problem
I too have a 2002 prarie 650 and want to do this, kris knight did you end up finding one?
@@nickparlee I did and now it pops up a wheelie. Do you ever hit a Rev limiter at top speed on yours btw?
What's that CDI worth? I just got an 06 brute 750
Not sure of the exact cost, got this one with a used ATV I bought...probably around $300cdn. Thanks for watching and have fun with the Brute, they are great machines!
Was this brute carbureted? I’m asking because on the website it says “carb approved - no”
Ya it was carb'd. Depends on the year, this one was meant for the carb'd model.
@@RobFarrowATV thanks man
Hey rob i was wondering were you bought the dynatek cdi module?? i cant find it on their website. Im trying to get one for a 2008 Kawasaki brute force 750
Is yours fuel injected? Don't think they make one for a fuel injected model but they should have one for your machine if it's carb'd! Maybe drop them a line and ask! I got mine when I bought an old beat up '05 Brute 750! Thanks for watching!
yea mines fuel injected, well that sucks. okay thanks!
SpectumHD M checkout hmf they have a box called the optimizer and its strictly for fuel injection. they have a multi selection for power levels
Good review! I wish it wasnt so expensive tho...
Thanks Eugene! They are a bit pricey but worth the money if you can afford it! Thanks for watching Man!
@@RobFarrowATV could I use this with a big gun tuner? I have 2010 750 brute, just rebuilt with the wiseco higher compression pistons. When let off the throttle it goes dead alot.
@@westmonroejoe6097 isn't the 2010 fuel injected? The unit is for carburated machines. Thanks for watching!
@@RobFarrowATV oh ok yes sir it is. I need something to help it out tho. Got any ideas?
Sold me
It definitely made a big difference on the '08 Brute! Thanks for tuning in!
Will this work on my 03 prairie 650? I notice they all have 3 plugs on the box but mine has only 2? Any help would be appreciated lol
Not sure...should, but your best bet is to contact Dynatek online and see if they carry it. Here's the '03 650 Kawi diagram www.kawasaki.com/Parts/PartsDiagram/21926/2003/KVF650-A2 and here's the Dynatek website dynaonline.com/default.aspx Good luck!
Mudding... if you need to reverse... you need more wheels spin than stock
How do you like riding 2up with this?I'm about to buy the same machine and I intend to put a seat on for my gf who's 120 lbs.
Would rather ride solo on it but it is capable of 2 up, maybe not legally up here anyway. Good luck on your purchase!
Where can I get one just like that one because I have a 4 wheeler just like yours and I want a dynatek too
Straight from Dynatek I believe... www.dynaonline.com/products/multi-application/dynatek-fusion.aspx
Please tell me where you got the cri box. I cant find where to buy it
Got the cdi at Dynatek www.dynaonline.com/atv/
Did you do a speed test on this? If not could you please if you still have the atv.
I seem to remember that it still had the same top end speed...I don't have the ATV anymore, sorry! It was a nice improvement that's for sure! Thanks for watching Joseph!
Just picked up a 07 brute and looking for a little bit more Power, do you know what website I can find this off of? thanks
Not sure of the size of your atv but this link is for the 650, if it's for a 750 it's in there also. Congrats! www.dynaonline.com/parts/kawasaki/kvf650-brute-force-4x4i/2007/
I got a jetkit and new plugs and getting a cdi box
Nice! Think I'll be getting the CDI Dynatek sometime this summer for my Brute 750.
@@RobFarrowATV nice
So this is a 5 year old video. How have the chips held up?
I sold it a couple of years after I put that in but up till then it was awesome.
Did you have to do a belt reset after changing the cdi?
Nope, was told by the company that it's just plug and play...didn't change anything! Thanks for watching!
+Rob Farrow brain just kicked in. If it does away with limp wouldn't have to lol
Hey man is this a carbed or fuel injected bike I'm debating on buying one but I read that it doesn't do the same for carbed bikes as it does for the fuel injected....looking for faster take off and higher top speed
This was on a Carb'd 2008 Brute Force 650. Happy Trails!
So with this on there would it still go into limp mode due to engine brake failure
@@durtysouthkustomz8862 I'm assuming it would still have that function but not 100% sure...You might want to email them to find out.
Thinking about getting this do you need to rejet or anything when u put it in
Nope, didn't have to do anything...plug and play they are but I believe they are only for carburated models just in case you have Fuel Injected. Good Luck and Happy Trails with the new found power!
@@RobFarrowATV I have a 650 carburated thank you for your input
Nice, I think you'll like it!
How did the cold start go please?
I never started it any colder than 5c. When it got colder than that I put the stock on back in. I think it leans the machine out too much when running really cold.
what kind of rims are those and what is the offset on them?
They are ITP rims I believe, bought them in '09 so don't remember a lot abou them, not sure of the offset on them! Thanks for checking the video out Cole!
so you didn't unhook the battery to swap out the cdi ???
+skulledmonte84 Nope, no problem there! Thanks for watching!
oh okay i cant believe what a difference it made
+skulledmonte84 It was like night and day, surprised me, didn't expect that much difference!
That's impressive. I'll have to get one for my Durango so it will do wheelies too. My atv isn't cdi.
+Paul Seebach I'd like to see the Durango do some wheelies! LOL! Thanks for watching Paul!
Where did you get that bag?
Tank Bag? It was purchased at Canadian Tire store.
where can i get it
www.dynaonline.com/atv/
do they have any cdi upgrades for a 02 Kawasaki prairie 650
www.dynaonline.com/parts/kawasaki/kvf650-prairie-4x4/2002/
Do you still have the Dynatek and want to sell it
No, sold it awhile back, sorry.
Any idea where to get one of those
Straight from the Dynatek web site...
I love my 07 Brute I’m hesitant about adding that mod in the long term longevity of the engine as with many mods on anything sometimes the disadvantages outweigh the advantages especially when you have bad luck with modifications like I do I always seem to screw up what I have by adding power mods.
I don't believe it has any real long term effects on the bike. I just didn't use it in the winter cold days...might be too lean! Adds a pile of HP to the machine though but sometimes you might be better off leaving well enough alone! ;-) Thanks for checking the vid out Man!
Rob Farrow ATV Right On!
Will this fit a 650 brute force non functional 2006
Not sure, best bet is to contact them.
What's the link to get it
www.dynaonline.com/products/atv/default.aspx
Hello my friend this is mark I like it do they make one for a polaris sportman etx I want to get one and how much thank
+Mark Paez Jr Hey Mark! Not sure but you can check online at www.dynaonline.com/ to see if they make one for your year and model. I think they run around $200cdn. Thanks for checking the video out Mark!
Your wealcome
Will this work on my 350 Honda rancher es?
Not sure, you'll have to contact Dynatek...
What’s the link
www.dynaonline.com/dyna-fs-ignition-module-for-2005-2013-kawasaki-brute-force-650-750-carbureted-dfs2-15/
What wheel bolt pattern are these Kawasaki Brute Force sra
I don't remember anymore and don't own the machine anymore so I can't check. Someone on a Kawi forum might be able to tell you. Happy Trails!
Rob Farrow ATV thank you and one more quick question does the cdi give you more top speed? Thank you and keep up the good work on your Channel!
I can't remember if it raised the speed limiters or not...Sorry. Got rid of the Reverse Limiter I remember that.
It is carbed or efi
+dakota nugent Carbed! Thanks for watching!
I had one and with cdi on it run on to 74 mph
Nice! It does make a hell off a difference! Thanks for watching!
Rob Farrow ATV does it install the same on 06 750 brute
Clutch work and cam an it will move even faster
I bought a new ATV now, so the Brute goes to my wife and it's plenty fast enough for her! LOL! Thanks for watching Man!
How do you take off the Stock CDI
It just unplugs from the harness...have to squeeze the plug lock and wiggle it out.
Rob Farrow ATV copy, it’s hard cuz it’s so tight in there. You still have it or use it?
@@dannymartin4x482 mine was right under the seat and it just pulled up and I unplugged it...took like 2 minutes to do the swap...I sold the tax a couple years ago.
Rob Farrow ATV yeah I might need to spray some Oil Grease around the Harnesses plugs cuz it’s so tight in there
Hey, I just got mine. Is it ok to plug in and use it? Or Did you do anything with your carburetor?
I may have to invest in one for my Can-Am 800
Not sure you can get one for that machine...best thing to do is contact Dynatek! Good Luck and thanks for watching Scott!
Link?
www.dynaonline.com/products/multi-application/dynatek-fusion.aspx
Rob Farrow ATV how much was it?
Not sure, the one I had came with a used Brute that I bought.
Rob Farrow ATV you bought a use one?
Yes...
I have a 07 brute force 650 I would like to get this mod where do I find one how can I get it and what's the cost?
I got mine with an old Brute that I bought. I believe you should be able to get them straight from Dynatek...not sure of the price! Good luck and thanks for tuning in David!
eBay seems to have them too www.ebay.com/itm/Dynatek-Dyna-FS-Black-ECU-CDI-Ignition-Box-Kawasaki-Brute-Force-650-650i-All-/380377227527?fits=Model%3ABrute+Force+650
Ah nice now maybe see how fast you can go in reverse lol
Goes fast enough to roll it over backwards! LOL!
@@RobFarrowATV Sweet lmao