@@NailujG you're telling me the way players run on PES is more realistic than Fifa? Fifa have captured movement specifically from professional players. I haven't seen anything like that from PES.
I think I’m the only person who would genuinely enjoy my gameplay being this slow and methodical. I just want realism. A relaxing, realistic, football game
That is incredible, so realistic. Movements are so spot on. Makes me wonder if it will ever get this good. I might quit my job and never get off my console
Realism is mad in this but it seems like these are almost rehearsed scenarios. Like after playing for awhile would you see the exact same phases of play happening just with different teams?
The cut scenes like entrances, line ups, pre kickoff discussions, yellow/red card scenes, injuries, GOALKEEPERS and substituions could all look like this. The Fans and the stands are also very important. They look good and their reactions to the game seem genuine.
there's only one thing which makes it realistic it's the players who are off the ball, they don't twist and turn like headless chickens that's all you need
KaySwitch YT as long as micro transactions are in games then there won’t be any progress, as has been demonstrated with fifa over the last 10(!) years.
I think robotic in the sense that FIFA is highly limiting in what you can do with the ball and player movements. They always go on about 360 movement in FIFA but I always feel so limited in what I can do in possession. Don't get me started on how it feels as if I'm scoring the same goal all the time. My friends, who mostly prefer FIFA, always think I'm using the right analogue stick but not telling em how yet all I'm doing is using the left stick to feint movement in one direction or another. PES may look robotic but it's far from it...
Movement of players looks really nice, better than pes and fifa. This kind of organic movement coupled with the glitz of pes of fifa would be really nice
It's impossible to replicate in the game. What I would like to see is to improve A.I off the ball movement. They still move like robots despite them not being controlled by an input. Constant sliding animation, warping, and lots of odd movement still a big issue.
This clip is something some petty youtubers release each year as the next year's PES gameplay video(funny they never release it as a FIFA video). The animations are extremely life-like but this is a pre-rendered footage not including any user inputs or real-time animations You can do this with any current or even previous gen engine
With all due respect, i 100% agree that it would be difficult to do this and make it responsive but i don't think that it's impossible as you implied. Time can make a huge difference and i think like 8 or 10 years from now we never know what is possible or not.
Nonsene that such physics can't work or won't be good. Smooth movement would work perfectly and play well too, and movement can be responsive as well if they change the speed up a bit and yet make it smooth.
Being 39 and seeing how far football games have come on from Emlyn Hughs International Football on C64, to seeing the gradual evolution of PES through the different PlayStation consoles I still have no doubt we’re on our way to seeing a lifelike football simulation. I hope I’m still around to see it, but I’ve always thought it’d be like playing Match of the Day with all competitions, teams, licences the lot! If we can keep improving on the model PES has with the enjoyability and unpredictable way match’s flow realistically each game goes I’m sure it will happen... some day
This is an already rendered automatic intended animations and not a controlled one it will be so difficult to create a game where you can balance between the responsiveness and the controlling of the players because many of these AI movements/animations has to be intended and implemented in the game according to the responsiveness of the players and according to the match situation ( A.I) that's why FIFA and PES failed miserably to simulate a realistic gameplay due to these issues each year we get tricked by Konami and EA by the arleady intended cutscenes and not an actual gameplay from the game itself once we see the trailer we will get blown away by how does it look like and how it is fluid but when we finally play the game we will get stunned by the awfulness of the gameplay and i am afraid that the new upcoming football game that goes by the name UFL ( i don't now what does it means precisely) will be either a copy of one of the two PES or FIfa and it will fail miserably to simulate a realistic gameplay considering the fact that the balance between the responsiveness and the controlling of the AI seems difficult If not impossible to be generated in the game because the in-game animations and movements cannot be generated according to each situation and it will be ending up filling the game with unlimited number of animations to simulate a realistic game which it'd lead in the end to overloading your PC and it might not run the game at all even though the game was in development in five years now it still would not change the fact that AI responsiveness and controll are almost impossible to be generated in a game according to each situation Finally the Hyper motion thing is a joke don't get too hyped. ( Sorry for the long explanation i just have to share my opinion )
Good point, having seen UFL so far I have little expectations for it, but I wonder if we’ll ever reach a video game that’s just like real life, not sure even a engine as good as Unreal Engine 5 can do so.
Sir, with the level of technology we have today (AI, Machine Learning, etc) is it possible to have player models trained/pre-trained with video data from live matches (to learn animation possibilities) and have them know what animation to execute based on the game state?
@@n0l3n_774 I'm currently planning on making a game where players look, move, and behave like this. If today, we have Large Language Models like Chat GPT, I believe we can build Large Animation Models that serve as a source for generating Physics Based Animations based on contextual inputs from the user, in response to what is happening with the ball and players around. It may be expensive and time consuming, but I'm sure it can be done.
I was so in love with PES 2014 while the market put it as garbage. Of course it wasn't a perfect game but PES was on the right path to build realistic looking game. If only we gave PES 2014 a chance perhaps today we play PES just like the video above
@@brar12zhinzai I hate for the fact they scrapped everything good about pes 2014 like realistic animation, players physicality and ball physics. Pes 2015 is not a good base for upcoming installments of the franchise. It felt so outdated.
FIFA players already complain about PES 19 being unresponsive. Extra touches to control the ball, realistic turns, etc. Sad to say people nowadays don't like that, all they care about is the 'skill gap'. Most people wouldn't like playing this. EA and KONAMI can do this, it's not about technology, they chose not to
Watching the gameplay makes me get goosebumps. I agree with you on the fact that it will be difficult for pes and FIFA to replicate this but I don't believe it's impossible. It all has to do with a change of game engine. Maybe in ten years we might be playing something close. Thanks for the video.
Nope. The problem is that players in real life can't move and turn as fast as you can move the controller. Unresponsiveness arises. FIFA players complain about PES being unresponsive. EA and KONAMI are just giving what the people want
Personally think konami should get together with the makers of football manager as the idea of being able to play the game and have the managing aspect too would be awsome.
This will be an amazing Football Manager. Probably the best in the history because it will be very nice to see a realistic match as a manager of the team. Please make this happen.
Looks awesome, commentary seems spot on and instant. This game needs to be a direct competitor to Fifa and Pes. It needs a bit more improvement to really compete with those games and shine just like Fifa and Pes and be as known as those two games.
I want the game to resemble football as much as it can. Not exactly for the animations to look good, but to give the game the same factors as real matches. This causes players to really learn football and make the game well-balanced like in real life. No OP things to abuse in game, just real life odds of scoring.
Not fast paced but realist* it look exactly like in the real life it's a game like that we need today with our technology bro! Fifa movements is very robotic and not realistic at all it has to be fluid tbh FC 25 has realistic details and pretty good graphics, but the game lacks fluidity. We need a game with FC graphics and Rush Football movements and Here We Go!
realistic is fun and enjoyable trust me , people who enjoy is how realistic it is , its not slow its not unlimited stamina, run and unlimited press that is not what we want , if you want that, you can just go play efootball legendary mode and u will see how ALL Striker is MAKELLE tackle GOD lmao
@@joshuakimmich9536 I'm hoping to see more news about PES then we will know, surely the gameplay is awesome let's hope master league is going to be better than what we expect.
Imagine.. Rush football player and ball animations/ physics Fifa team licences and player designs (like the details on their faces) Pes quality (game devs, game play and graphics) It would be the perfect football game
I love the physics of the ball itself! I thought it was a real, recorded match on the T.V. The dribbling and skill touches of the players looks hyper realistic!
Great insight about the responsiveness. The best football game I have ever played is FIFA 11, which was so good because it was super fast-paced and responsive. A game like this would only work well if you want to play 90-minute matches, which would be super boring.
Totally agree! 👊 This is what we want! 🙌 to be able to feel the real deal ⚽️ This is what it should look like and its real bad no game has developed any better in this direction over the years...
This varies from mindset to mindset / For me actuually more realistic the game looks and harde it to play more exciting and funnier it would be. I'm actually bored stiff when I play the football game with current robotic ant-like moving players.. In most types of game people are craving for something more realistic and when it comes to football it should stay like a crash of 1983 ? That's the fanboy style of thinking not that of the real game player..
I also looked at the audiences , you see both sitting behind the goal but only the one scored - the people sitting behind you can look at they are only cheering not the others , which is more realistic
I should add, while many people might find it boring, there are people who would find this type of game highly enjoyable. There's people who play strategy games where a single game lasts hours and the pace is not quick. Playing this type of football would be much more tactical and require a lot more thought. Many modern sports gamers don't want to think. They want things to go fast and score a lot. But it's not football. It's hockey with a football skin.
The closest we ever got to this was PES 2014, but it was the slow response of MASS that turned people off. As a result, like TTB said in the video, it'd be impossible to program the game this way without having to sacrifice something else.
Wow... not gunna lie I Would By this ina heartbeat, if it was a playable game like PES n Fifa.., TBH I think they would B Running Scared... Gr8 upload brudda 🙏🏿
I definitely agree with your point of view on responsiveness! I guess we will never have our cake and eat it?? I do think PES does a really great job with contextual animations at the moment, who knows what kind of new system PES 21 will have!! Great video again, and thank you for your pov on presentation as well. I do think it's time Konami upgrade the Presentation, especially with all the new Stadiums and Players scans.
Really? The game that has over 350 million games sold needs a lot of work....and the one that sells 1.6 million does not? You guys seem to be very delusional. This is just sad.
@@bobbycooke6159 What's sad, although I somewhat find hilarious, is that y'all bash FIFA year-in-year-out, gave the latest installment (FIFA19) a 1.7 on Metacritic, constantly complain that the game is getting worse yet y'all run out in millions to buy something y'all know is broken. PES may sell less but it's a testament to how few people have any common sense...
@@matnat21 No need to curse at me....and yes I buy the game every year. Just like the 350 million other fans. Fifa does not need a lot of improvements . We can accomplish all the basics quite easily and smoothly. The improvement I would like to see is them increasing the chances on packing a 84+ player. I spend on average $100 bucks each fortnight and get only garbage players. Outside of that I am good ..many of us are.
@@justlloyd7881 I hate when PES fans bring up the "critics" stuff. Critics do not play games. As for the complaints...we have over 350 million people with copies of the game. Some will complain ...its ok.
@@tom0900060 2016 was a improved version of the 2014 pes. Very well gameplay but some others options like stadiums creation edit menu master league stuffs were fucked up
joaquín cordovia I remember playing a ML with Arsenal and in the winter transfer period I bought Ronaldo by accident. 14 Million. Just stopped playing the after that
Maybe rage is the future. As the games get more and more realistic, fluid, and irresponsive, the players get angry and more rage videos gonna be produced, it would be awesome the rage videos with this.
I think these are actual parts of real football matches captured and rendered with 3d models. Every movement is unique, by the way I think that in these last years pes is focusing more on the game and tactics instead of improving animations. But in the upcoming games I'm pretty sure we will get closer and closer to this realism!
kidding efootball close to this are u a joke? worst control animations on the world pes and efootball sewries worst! gameplay animations worst. wish tobe best but after they couldnt make they closed the pes and konami than evrything over efootball ıs a mobıle phone game so dont say close..
After seeing my player stand in front of the ball in an open goal situation and let the defender take it away in FM22. I would be so happy if this gameplay was in FM, it would suit the game so well.
An opinion from someone who played and enjoyed 16 bit consoles 30 years ago... After a couple of weeks the look doesn't really matter a great deal. It's always the gameplay and fluidity of the title which KEEPS you coming back for more. Graphics and animation should be a secondary goal for developers, unless they've already perfected the base product. PES and fifa still need their core improved as a matter of priority.
I’m already addicted to football manager but imagine this gameplay on future releases !?! It would be amazing and these days fifa and pes aren’t any close to real football games after seeing this
You always said my mind anytime i watch your video.but i think in this video konami can do that because this game look similar to pes14 and the player movement are also a little bite to compare with pes14 players movement. so for me i think it's possible for konami to develope a game like this.
Wtf!! 😳 How is this so realistic. I was searching for some alternative to 2 big games, and here it is, its too good for a second i thought its a video and legit it looks like its been mo capped very perfectly something we hopefully will see maybe in a decade from now implemented i think in pes
Score Match (app mobile) uses this responsive level and is great. You just have to learn how to play like the game is made for and you''ll have a great and realistic experience.
The gameplay visuals are great in PES, it's the menus, Commentary, stadium upgrades, more leagues within a country. I.E 4-5 in England, 3 in Spain, 4 in Germany etc. This is what Konami and FIFA need to work on more, and are a lot easier to do. Or let the Modding community have free reign (including Console) Like Skyrim, Fallout etc
Frankly that's why I got into PES instead of FIFA, for a slower game. An even slower game (with graphics like this) would seem to be perfect. Am I the only one?
![[TTB] What Happens When a PES Fan Plays FIFA 20?! - A Comparison to PES 2020](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8pn-OEK8rIE/mqdefault.jpg)
Looking at this I'm thinking it would be more suited to football management games like FM.
Absolutely
Was thinking exactly that,then looked in comments to see who else thought the same haha
This i agree 👍
All these comments represent me😂😂
Fm probably gonna beat fifa and pes easily🤣
I don't like the graphics but the movement of the players looks real asf. I hope pes reaches this level
Well I mean Pes is the worst for robotic movements out of the two, so surely Fifa is more likely to achieve this sort of movement.
@@jackbrewster8942 nope bro
@@jackbrewster8942 Been playing fifa since fifa 08, how can you say pes is more robotic. I gotta admit pes 2020 looks amazing in player movement
@@jackbrewster8942 lmao fifa is more robotic
@@NailujG you're telling me the way players run on PES is more realistic than Fifa? Fifa have captured movement specifically from professional players. I haven't seen anything like that from PES.
Imagine FM with this engine..TAKE MY MONEY
Yes, me too.
This looks more realistic ruclips.net/video/d4Dat9mIAtM/видео.html
AND MY DIGNITY
@@alessandrodelpierojuventus8156 looks like shit to me
@@alessandrodelpierojuventus8156 No it doesn't, have you ever seen a real football game in your life 😂😂
I think I’m the only person who would genuinely enjoy my gameplay being this slow and methodical. I just want realism. A relaxing, realistic, football game
Yes it will for PES 2050. Fifa 50 will be the same as last year.
Aged well
Lol yes ruclips.net/video/qDu0ctfDJZg/видео.html
@@SSoaib-in2ni pes 2021 is still better than fifa 22.
Pes 2021>fifa 2025 at least
I think this would work so much better as a visual sim for a football manager game
That is incredible, so realistic. Movements are so spot on. Makes me wonder if it will ever get this good. I might quit my job and never get off my console
Yeh...I'd be playing this all the time man, I'd never show up for work.
ruclips.net/video/qDu0ctfDJZg/видео.html
Realism is mad in this but it seems like these are almost rehearsed scenarios. Like after playing for awhile would you see the exact same phases of play happening just with different teams?
Mr Mr that’s what you do when you okay fifa every year ?!
It is scripted
The cut scenes like entrances, line ups, pre kickoff discussions, yellow/red card scenes, injuries, GOALKEEPERS and substituions could all look like this. The Fans and the stands are also very important. They look good and their reactions to the game seem genuine.
there's only one thing which makes it realistic
it's the players who are off the ball, they don't twist and turn like headless chickens
that's all you need
True. The rest is almost like PES 19 itself
@@mysteryman3054 as long as the movement is realistic, the graphics could even be minecraft-ish, i don't care
@@mysteryman3054 But saying that it would impossible to control players under them realistic movements as they are not made for input selections.
In the next century we'll have a problem distinguishing between real life and games
I showed parts of this clip to my father without sound, he thought I'm just showing him random football clips - I had to tell him this is digital.
Haha sure
KaySwitch YT as long as micro transactions are in games then there won’t be any progress, as has been demonstrated with fifa over the last 10(!) years.
yup thats for sure........dude ;)
lol
This looks more similar to PES than FIFA
But EA has brainwashed fanboys with cinematic trailers that FIFA is not robotic lmao
Neeraj vibez amen
What does being robotic mean?
@@Blank9458 being robotic means being robotic
I think robotic in the sense that FIFA is highly limiting in what you can do with the ball and player movements. They always go on about 360 movement in FIFA but I always feel so limited in what I can do in possession. Don't get me started on how it feels as if I'm scoring the same goal all the time. My friends, who mostly prefer FIFA, always think I'm using the right analogue stick but not telling em how yet all I'm doing is using the left stick to feint movement in one direction or another. PES may look robotic but it's far from it...
@@justlloyd7881
By robotic, it actually refers to the animations. FIFA and PES are quite robotic in the animations, FIFA even more robotic than PES
I would sacrifice the responsiveness for the animations to look this real. I would have no problem with that
Consoles would be flying by the hour everywhere though 😂
@@pashkodreshaj2558 Okey? Use a PC then
@@marcusblom3442 Same problem
Movement of players looks really nice, better than pes and fifa. This kind of organic movement coupled with the glitz of pes of fifa would be really nice
if anything , i’d love this on football manager .
Haha true dat. FM doesn't require real-time inputs so this is a possibility
7:01 Lol! That defender was really high on weed.
I think that was mustafi
It's impossible to replicate in the game. What I would like to see is to improve A.I off the ball movement. They still move like robots despite them not being controlled by an input. Constant sliding animation, warping, and lots of odd movement still a big issue.
N I G H T T I D E YEPPppp !!! Still robots nightmare !!
Its seems nice but eventually u will skip it to start playing
Gagan Singh Skip what? You can notice the players you're not controlling have janky movement while playing the game
Yes its look realistic.. but very difficult to control player movement like that..
Sure..it will not called a game anymore 😂
Maybe the player movement in game should remain same but the highlight can apply this kind of movement
Just like Pes 2014. Looks very realistic but less responsive. Also kinda reminds me of fifa 08.
This clip is something some petty youtubers release each year as the next year's PES gameplay video(funny they never release it as a FIFA video).
The animations are extremely life-like but this is a pre-rendered footage not including any user inputs or real-time animations
You can do this with any current or even previous gen engine
@@RdamWest Not first this time huh? 😉
Buddy
I was about to say the same thing.
rush football 2 very very nice, i hope to play rush football 2
Different team, but same pattern, same gesture.. between 7:38-7:50 and 8:34-8:46
So it's all fake. Fuck this shit
Titoe Dhoni Valent I think they Used the same bot in two Games
it's not a serious project in terms of gameplay, they probably only have 3 to 4 variations for a single situation
It's obviously scripted, why everyone so excited about? There's is no way to do this in real time using controller or any other input.
With all due respect, i 100% agree that it would be difficult to do this and make it responsive but i don't think that it's impossible as you implied. Time can make a huge difference and i think like 8 or 10 years from now we never know what is possible or not.
It's possible. True. User input would not necessarily sacrifice the smoothness
Nonsene that such physics can't work or won't be good.
Smooth movement would work perfectly and play well too, and movement can be responsive as well if they change the speed up a bit and yet make it smooth.
Being 39 and seeing how far football games have come on from Emlyn Hughs International Football on C64, to seeing the gradual evolution of PES through the different PlayStation consoles I still have no doubt we’re on our way to seeing a lifelike football simulation. I hope I’m still around to see it, but I’ve always thought it’d be like playing Match of the Day with all competitions, teams, licences the lot!
If we can keep improving on the model PES has with the enjoyability and unpredictable way match’s flow realistically each game goes I’m sure it will happen... some day
This is an already rendered automatic intended animations and not a controlled one it will be so difficult to create a game where you can balance between the responsiveness and the controlling of the players because many of these AI movements/animations has to be intended and implemented in the game according to the responsiveness of the players and according to the match situation ( A.I) that's why FIFA and PES failed miserably to simulate a realistic gameplay due to these issues each year we get tricked by Konami and EA by the arleady intended cutscenes and not an actual gameplay from the game itself once we see the trailer we will get blown away by how does it look like and how it is fluid but when we finally play the game we will get stunned by the awfulness of the gameplay and i am afraid that the new upcoming football game that goes by the name UFL ( i don't now what does it means precisely) will be either a copy of one of the two PES or FIfa and it will fail miserably to simulate a realistic gameplay considering the fact that the balance between the responsiveness and the controlling of the AI seems difficult If not impossible to be generated in the game because the in-game animations and movements cannot be generated according to each situation and it will be ending up filling the game with unlimited number of animations to simulate a realistic game which it'd lead in the end to overloading your PC and it might not run the game at all even though the game was in development in five years now it still would not change the fact that AI responsiveness and controll are almost impossible to be generated in a game according to each situation
Finally the Hyper motion thing is a joke don't get too hyped. ( Sorry for the long explanation i just have to share my opinion )
Good point, having seen UFL so far I have little expectations for it, but I wonder if we’ll ever reach a video game that’s just like real life, not sure even a engine as good as Unreal Engine 5 can do so.
Sir, with the level of technology we have today (AI, Machine Learning, etc) is it possible to have player models trained/pre-trained with video data from live matches (to learn animation possibilities) and have them know what animation to execute based on the game state?
@@loveadeolaexactly (: i think we have the technology to make a game like that bruh
@@loveadeolathey just won't
@@n0l3n_774 I'm currently planning on making a game where players look, move, and behave like this. If today, we have Large Language Models like Chat GPT, I believe we can build Large Animation Models that serve as a source for generating Physics Based Animations based on contextual inputs from the user, in response to what is happening with the ball and players around.
It may be expensive and time consuming, but I'm sure it can be done.
I remember pes 3 felt like this...it was a game changer...
The only thing pes and fifa took from this is the predetermine goal
I would gladly sacrifice a little bit of control for more realism. Those animations gave me chills.
FIFA players already complain about PES being unresponsive
PES 2014 was the closest to this and everyone panned it at the time.
You have seen that too. The best ever. The only problem was with the graphics. Player resemblance was too bad but for the game play, it was the best
I was so in love with PES 2014 while the market put it as garbage. Of course it wasn't a perfect game but PES was on the right path to build realistic looking game. If only we gave PES 2014 a chance perhaps today we play PES just like the video above
Pes 14 was the best on series
@@brar12zhinzai I hate for the fact they scrapped everything good about pes 2014 like realistic animation, players physicality and ball physics. Pes 2015 is not a good base for upcoming installments of the franchise. It felt so outdated.
FIFA players already complain about PES 19 being unresponsive. Extra touches to control the ball, realistic turns, etc. Sad to say people nowadays don't like that, all they care about is the 'skill gap'. Most people wouldn't like playing this. EA and KONAMI can do this, it's not about technology, they chose not to
Watching the gameplay makes me get goosebumps. I agree with you on the fact that it will be difficult for pes and FIFA to replicate this but I don't believe it's impossible. It all has to do with a change of game engine. Maybe in ten years we might be playing something close. Thanks for the video.
Nope. The problem is that players in real life can't move and turn as fast as you can move the controller. Unresponsiveness arises. FIFA players complain about PES being unresponsive. EA and KONAMI are just giving what the people want
You are on point brother but personally I think pes at times gets too unresponsive and makes gameplay a bit frustrating.
@@aaabbb7347 Yup. And it will be worse if the Gameplay was like in this video
Personally think konami should get together with the makers of football manager as the idea of being able to play the game and have the managing aspect too would be awsome.
This will be an amazing Football Manager. Probably the best in the history because it will be very nice to see a realistic match as a manager of the team. Please make this happen.
Football manager would be a beauty with this
Looks awesome, commentary seems spot on and instant. This game needs to be a direct competitor to Fifa and Pes. It needs a bit more improvement to really compete with those games and shine just like Fifa and Pes and be as known as those two games.
it's a CGI pre-rendered video made for betting machines
I still like pes to fifa movement and the weight feels better. Im happy with where pes is going.
Ok
6:24 meeeeen! That's a real life football dribbling, so smooth
tons of movements mean a lot of movements when you want be fast, maybe this can partly avoid the hard input lag
I want the game to resemble football as much as it can. Not exactly for the animations to look good, but to give the game the same factors as real matches. This causes players to really learn football and make the game well-balanced like in real life. No OP things to abuse in game, just real life odds of scoring.
ngl i wouldnt be bored by a game that isnt fast-paced, like that one
Not fast paced but realist* it look exactly like in the real life it's a game like that we need today with our technology bro! Fifa movements is very robotic and not realistic at all it has to be fluid tbh FC 25 has realistic details and pretty good graphics, but the game lacks fluidity. We need a game with FC graphics and Rush Football movements and Here We Go!
realistic is fun and enjoyable
trust me , people who enjoy is how realistic it is ,
its not slow
its not unlimited stamina, run and unlimited press
that is not what we want , if you want that, you can just go play efootball legendary mode and u will see how ALL Striker is MAKELLE tackle GOD lmao
I wish we could see such a game someday with realism animation someday!
Watching this after playing PES2019 against my brother :P. When PES and Fifa use new engines that's when we will hopefully see more positive changes.
This is possible in the current gen bro
@@joshuakimmich9536 I'm hoping to see more news about PES then we will know, surely the gameplay is awesome let's hope master league is going to be better than what we expect.
@@captainwasel8377 yeah
6:40.....that move is just 🔥
Imagine..
Rush football player and ball animations/ physics
Fifa team licences and player designs (like the details on their faces)
Pes quality (game devs, game play and graphics)
It would be the perfect football game
5:28 I love the crowd reaction to the goal, that’s something that should be more focused on in football game
I love the physics of the ball itself! I thought it was a real, recorded match on the T.V. The dribbling and skill touches of the players looks hyper realistic!
Great insight about the responsiveness. The best football game I have ever played is FIFA 11, which was so good because it was super fast-paced and responsive. A game like this would only work well if you want to play 90-minute matches, which would be super boring.
Boo arcade lover
I completely disagree with this entire video. I think its entirely possible and no it won't be slow and boring it will fun from start to finish
Exactly my point
It will work fine with user input too if they make it work right
Totally agree! 👊 This is what we want! 🙌 to be able to feel the real deal ⚽️ This is what it should look like and its real bad no game has developed any better in this direction over the years...
I mean no . It would be slow and boring . And he is right . Controlling players will only get slower .
It won’t work, we are in 2022 and yet there hasn’t a game as realistic as real life
They haven't take it serious. 2 players don't start the game anymore and there shouldn't be any other player in that circle. Ridiculous
This varies from mindset to mindset / For me actuually more realistic the game looks and harde it to play more exciting and funnier it would be. I'm actually bored stiff when I play the football game with current robotic ant-like moving players.. In most types of game people are craving for something more realistic and when it comes to football it should stay like a crash of 1983 ? That's the fanboy style of thinking not that of the real game player..
I also looked at the audiences , you see both sitting behind the goal but only the one scored - the people sitting behind you can look at they are only cheering not the others , which is more realistic
wow, it looks so real. if PES or EA ever reaches this level of realism I would play the game to death. it would be so adictive
the ball physics is definitely possible to be in PES
Player movement looks amazing
I should add, while many people might find it boring, there are people who would find this type of game highly enjoyable. There's people who play strategy games where a single game lasts hours and the pace is not quick. Playing this type of football would be much more tactical and require a lot more thought. Many modern sports gamers don't want to think. They want things to go fast and score a lot. But it's not football. It's hockey with a football skin.
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The closest we ever got to this was PES 2014, but it was the slow response of MASS that turned people off. As a result, like TTB said in the video, it'd be impossible to program the game this way without having to sacrifice something else.
finally someone who sees the genius of pes 2014
with updated shooting, that game was simply a masterpiece gameplay-wise
Fifa and pes needs this realism at least they won't die after 2 months as usual
Wow... not gunna lie I Would By this ina heartbeat, if it was a playable game like PES n Fifa.., TBH I think they would B Running Scared... Gr8 upload brudda 🙏🏿
I definitely agree with your point of view on responsiveness! I guess we will never have our cake and eat it?? I do think PES does a really great job with contextual animations at the moment, who knows what kind of new system PES 21 will have!! Great video again, and thank you for your pov on presentation as well. I do think it's time Konami upgrade the Presentation, especially with all the new Stadiums and Players scans.
The movements from the players are fantastic definitely need these in and on the new gen consoles
It also depends on the chain of movements you command your players to do. It's all about little frequences really. I love your channel btw
Brooo just give time and you would easily cruise to 1million subs. Tbh.....
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In my opinion PES gameplay is fun and beautiful as it is. Just needs few tweaks. However FIFA needs A LOT of work.
Really? The game that has over 350 million games sold needs a lot of work....and the one that sells 1.6 million does not? You guys seem to be very delusional. This is just sad.
Bobby Cooke you’re one of those people that buy the same shit every year so EA doesn’t give a flying fuck to actually improve the game
@@bobbycooke6159 What's sad, although I somewhat find hilarious, is that y'all bash FIFA year-in-year-out, gave the latest installment (FIFA19) a 1.7 on Metacritic, constantly complain that the game is getting worse yet y'all run out in millions to buy something y'all know is broken. PES may sell less but it's a testament to how few people have any common sense...
@@matnat21 No need to curse at me....and yes I buy the game every year. Just like the 350 million other fans. Fifa does not need a lot of improvements . We can accomplish all the basics quite easily and smoothly. The improvement I would like to see is them increasing the chances on packing a 84+ player. I spend on average $100 bucks each fortnight and get only garbage players. Outside of that I am good ..many of us are.
@@justlloyd7881 I hate when PES fans bring up the "critics" stuff. Critics do not play games. As for the complaints...we have over 350 million people with copies of the game. Some will complain ...its ok.
I think next gen ps5, can maybe play like.this nice fluidity to the play .
Ps5 has a shitty hardware.. Believe me..
The movements are insane! Wow
I thought I was watching a real life football match
I think both ea and Konami sports look realistic enough. Just wish we could edit and make boots, and make uniform
Not possible.
Ps5: Hold my SSD!
PES 2014 was like this and everyone says it's shit
Yes pes 14 the most realistic soccer game, but the ai/teammate very stupid not respondsive, sorry for my bad english
PES 2014 was literally the worst PES of all in terms of gameplay.
2014 and 2016 is the worst
@@tom0900060 2016 was a improved version of the 2014 pes. Very well gameplay but some others options like stadiums creation edit menu master league stuffs were fucked up
joaquín cordovia I remember playing a ML with Arsenal and in the winter transfer period I bought Ronaldo by accident. 14 Million. Just stopped playing the after that
Make this the first fm game for consoles and use this engine for gameplay that would be madness
Maybe rage is the future. As the games get more and more realistic, fluid, and irresponsive, the players get angry and more rage videos gonna be produced, it would be awesome the rage videos with this.
I think these are actual parts of real football matches captured and rendered with 3d models. Every movement is unique, by the way I think that in these last years pes is focusing more on the game and tactics instead of improving animations. But in the upcoming games I'm pretty sure we will get closer and closer to this realism!
So real, but look like legend match
Omg that looks so real amazing😍😍
Thank your for your thorough analysis
Efootball/PES closest thing we got yet
kidding efootball close to this are u a joke? worst control animations on the world pes and efootball sewries worst! gameplay animations worst. wish tobe best but after they couldnt make they closed the pes and konami than evrything over efootball ıs a mobıle phone game so dont say close..
@@cenkgonen4485 how many hours have you played the game to give such a review?
After seeing my player stand in front of the ball in an open goal situation and let the defender take it away in FM22. I would be so happy if this gameplay was in FM, it would suit the game so well.
Great video!
Wow the movement of the gameplay is excellent.
An opinion from someone who played and enjoyed 16 bit consoles 30 years ago...
After a couple of weeks the look doesn't really matter a great deal. It's always the gameplay and fluidity of the title which KEEPS you coming back for more.
Graphics and animation should be a secondary goal for developers, unless they've already perfected the base product. PES and fifa still need their core improved as a matter of priority.
I’m already addicted to football manager but imagine this gameplay on future releases !?! It would be amazing and these days fifa and pes aren’t any close to real football games after seeing this
You always said my mind anytime i watch your video.but i think in this video konami can do that because this game look similar to pes14 and the player movement are also a little bite to compare with pes14 players movement. so for me i think it's possible for konami to develope a game like this.
I agree that things like the celebrations and the crowd etc, can easily be used in fifa or pes. It would be great to see it used.
Wtf!! 😳 How is this so realistic. I was searching for some alternative to 2 big games, and here it is, its too good for a second i thought its a video and legit it looks like its been mo capped very perfectly something we hopefully will see maybe in a decade from now implemented i think in pes
They don't really need a new engine or processing power,they just need to invest more time and money in improving their animations.
Lol animations take years for solid movement plus imagine storing all that into that games and making extra copies its gonna take hours.
For anyone wondering. The commentator is someone from ESPN's MLS team. I'll look into to it more.
FM with this engine is absolutely beautiful
This would be a dream come true
imagining that this game’s movement and speed + graphic of Pes or Fifa ....
Finally found a great video for a You-Know-drinking game...😎
Rule:
Drink a shot everytime he says, "you know.."
You can watch interview videos with Camila Cabelo, she says "you know" a lot
Score Match (app mobile) uses this responsive level and is great. You just have to learn how to play like the game is made for and you''ll have a great and realistic experience.
actually this is the best football simulation i ever seen. i mean the gameplay
The gameplay visuals are great in PES, it's the menus, Commentary, stadium upgrades, more leagues within a country. I.E 4-5 in England, 3 in Spain, 4 in Germany etc. This is what Konami and FIFA need to work on more, and are a lot easier to do. Or let the Modding community have free reign (including Console) Like Skyrim, Fallout etc
I'm not a soccer expert, I'm having a hard time understanding why you think this wouldn't work for a game? You say it's too slow...?
Frankly that's why I got into PES instead of FIFA, for a slower game. An even slower game (with graphics like this) would seem to be perfect. Am I the only one?
Perfect 👍
This game is hella good like the animations and stuff
Even if it was just stick men with this movement i would play....quick someone get on it...money maker m8
First time seeing this game ,looks different and in a good way .. looks very good in surprised
Is this game out yet? The animations and physics look amazing.