Can I Save This Viewer's Game? | CK3 Fixing your Disaster Files
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Today I save another one of your guy's disaster game files! This submission comes from Moz, who has created a pretty large empire over the span of 200 years. Only to have it be at threat to fall apart from massive debt and independence factions rising up against him. How will I save this disasterous game? You'll have to watch to find out
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I love this from an RP perspective. King has had enough so he hires a steward to fix his mess before he loses the empire that took dozens of generations to build up.
If only they had RUclips back then 😂
Ghey
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@@RooZvonBooZ “L + No maidens + Gout + Vassal Revolt + Succession crisis + Hunting Accident + Bubonic Plague outbreak + Aztec invasion + Seethe + Cope + Mald”
And this steward is particularly good at his job.
Trick against peasant revolts with multiple armies:
- click on the peasant leader
- it´s going to focus on his position/army
- get rid of that army and imprison the leader
- gg
That's a good one!
My favorite thing to do when up against religious peasant factions is to plop my one rally point down right next to them (bonus points if it's in a barony that they're locked in moving into) and call a Holy Order. A massive army appears out of nowhere, letting me annihilate the peasants without risking my own troops at all.
If you're taking over a lot of hostile land and know you will face multiple revolts of the same religion, you can let a small enough stack that will be outnumbered by the local garrison survive. As long as a revolt is happening, no revolt of the same religion can trigger, since they are already revolting. The tiny stack will forever just sit there, allowing you to convert your new lands without fearing a new revolt.
its not guaranteed tho but peasants are super weak anyways
Usually the leader teleports to the other army though
I remember playing as rome with most of my characters focusing on intrigue, needless to say most faction leaders were met with untimely deaths by accidents.
Unfortunate accidents hapens from time to time. Its tragic but thats life on the top :)
Oh no, they must've fell face first on this dagger!
Oh, the romanity!
I've started as brittany and murdered every leader that has tried to take over france, it's been glorious.
You played roleplay Romans xD
Thanks for the save! Really interesting to watch. You have my permission to continue after the byzantines if you want 🤣
Thanks for sending the file in! It was a lot of fun to fix
How did you get that claim though, that's insane
@@francescomangini185 Probably marrying someone with an inheritable claim so that your children, one of which is your heir, also gets a claim on that title
@@dab_u7185 oh thx, didn't know that claims were inheritable
@@francescomangini185 All your children inherit pressed claims as now unpressed claims.
But in a male preference society the females can't press a claim on Adult males, only child rulers or other females.
Besides marrying off your kids, you can always rise all your troops before the war starts near the capitol of the strongest vassal that's willing to fight you. Worked for me several times!
That's dirty 😂 but a great tip
This is a good one and works if you have money. I have the feeling that it is going to be patched tho as in CK2 the revolt would not launch as long as you have army raised
You can even spread tiny troop stack on every single province of a vassal, completely preventing them from raising their troops.
thats cheap ;)
@@Vendraz this would be even better! Leave a small troop raised forever and you are rebelion free
One little trick when splitting off the new army: send the men at arms into the new army first, then immediately put them back into the first army, shoots the levies up to the top of the list so you don't run into that "Wii Menu Music" annoyance again and it's mindless quick clicking.
That's a good tip, thanks!
I think the better option is to choose the man at arms and switch them to the "new army" and leaving the unwanted rest in the old army. Then simply click the Select button on the bottom left. That way you divide them into 2 armys without repeating the whole choosing process twice.
@@christophv.3274 The problem with that is that it leaves behind the knights which are also very useful in increasing troop effectiveness. For some reason, knights are all bunched up at the bottom usually.
@@TF2PNub Yep I think it's better to move levies out of the army. You can usually find one levy group below your men at arms so can just click in same spot as many times as needed. This keeps your men at arms and knights in the same army. Paradox def need to update military interface
At that stage in the game, you should always be searching for secrets in your court with your spymaster, so you can get imprisonment reasons and/or strong hooks on rebellious vassals.
On another note, while you don't get maluses across the board for holding too many kingdoms, I believe you do get opinion maluses with vassals who desire them.
As an empire It's always best to only hold the Kingdom that is dejure to your realm capital. Either destroy the other Kingdom Titles or give them to family members or vassals. The more kingdoms you hold the more your vassals will desire them.
actually they can usurp it anyway if they hold the lands required for the de jure lands. happens very often with single county duchies that they usurp it right away when they got the money. no notification or sign of this. so if you want to hold the kingdoms, and they got de jure lands, they will have a small malus for the kingdom, the main thing preventing to usurp it is a ton of money they don't have. one trick is to give duchies from different kingdoms so they first need to fight for the others which rarely happens, or go independent first with 3 random ones. actually I want to try breaking up huge kingdoms to form smaller ones, so I got to try how I can do that. and for lands that can't form a proper duchy, like you are holding a mine, best bet is giving a city to an unlanded guy then the county holding it then he is a lord mayor with no complaints and usually they never fight.
@@laszlobandi6456 I think you're confusing creating titles with usurping titles. It's called creating when the title doesn't exist, and usurping when someone else already has it but you take it because you hold more land in the title. You can't usurp titles from your liege.
I don't think vassals get opinion modifiers for holding de jure kingdom titles above them. I think at that tier they only get modifiers for holding duchies and counties that belong to *their* kingdom titles. On my recent 1066 Karling playthrough, I held every kingdom title I could, and would finally grant them decades later as I started running into vassal limit problems. Never saw a single negative opinion modifier for this, again, except for when I was still holding duchies that de jure belonged to them.
I end up making 3-4 megakings who I put on my council and guarantee like me. Prevents almost all but the worst of rebellions from even forming. The only thing you have to be careful of Is the ai losing land to succession.
Something I noticed that the culture and even the religion of some of the vassals are all over the place. If you are a different culture/religion your vassals tend to join independent factions so it is better to give titles to members of your own culture/religion
One of my biggest disaster in CK was when my heir of the Empire of Outremer became Catholic French like his mother without me noticing while all of my vassals and my character were Orthodox Greek...
that won't help, they convert to local first time they are confronted, especially if they are craven. you need to convert culture on those de jure kingdom capitals and duchy capitals, then their council does the rest. also you can land your heir a bit earlier to make some relations with the locals, if you just give a kingdom, the first thing they do is revoke a county, then they got a tyranny war and they lose it. while a bit of experience and fame worth a few lands, rather keep a county in each kingdom for each kid you got, then it's easier to make them stabilize. for religions is not that important, and quite hard to convert higher fervor ones, it will be converted by natural process slowly, but you can also get a few cynical counts from a 3rd faith of low fervor, and they convert their county with them. you can keep a single county of different faith for easy prestige and rebel leaders. they are house members and good martial usually. I tried to breed with them but their kids are usually bad. but being part of a house is making them valuable.
@@laszlobandi6456
They don't convert if they are the more powerful in the region. My tactic work better in religious work or when you make your different religion/culture vassals rebel on purpose in a controlled rebellion so you can unsurp their lands afterwards because they were traitors.
Though the biggest thing is that in this save he is a catholic ruler and his vassals are Greek orthodox in Germany... I can not imagine him not being at fault for that. He clearly did a mistake or two to get in that weird situation.
Oh boy...
Outremer means overseas in French. The "Outremer" is just the first crusades which were 99% French crusades, and like the first crusade proclaimed by a french pope in the south of France.
So it makes sense that the Empire of France's outremer converts to catholicism and become of French culture.
History even teaches us on how to play CK3 XD.
They went through the trouble of having a custom empire but didn't seem to have much de jure land outside of Francia. Possibly even less. A big part of why everyone wants to be independent is they aren't your de jure vassals
but why not just grand them independent? those lands are kind of useless anyway. and get som lands and build them up!
@@donkarnage6986 looks cool on the map
@@rayzas4885 Also imperialism. More land=good
@@rayzas4885 i disagree too much bordergore lol
Wow... I've got over 250 hours in the game and it never came up that I could ally with the strongest faction member.. I feel dumb but I did learn something. Thanks! Great vid, great memes
nah fr. some other things that I later learned is the whole use your unmarried courtiers to get great councilors and knights or the imprison the unlanded heir of someone and make them join your court then you can marry him to anyone you want and they won't say no
That’s always my first step when a huge faction starts, try creating alliances and when all else fails throw gold at them and hope they back out
Anders Frandsen that’s what I do. Send gifts, send wards, apply to be a guardian & then as soon as their positive view of me is high enough without the faction breaking...imprison, revoke title, torture, ransom...in that order...they tend not to form again for some years after seeing that but just in case I keep track of everyone involved to take care of them... And they’re too afraid to run to another empire to press a claim...
@@andersfrandsen7077 there's also a diplomacy perk that lets you use a befriend scheme on people. Vassal who are your friends can't join factions against you. Another perk, I believe also diplomacy, lets you negotiate some alliances without marriage, which is handy.
Hey Zieley, love this series! Keep up the good work.
Cheers Corrin
When it comes to personal holdings, I basically always take counties that have special buildings. Having even a couple of those will give you a massive gold or troop advantage, and many if not most also grant renown while you hold it as well. Examples ad Aachen, Cologne, Gottingen, Paris/ Ile de France (once you have windmills), and any other holy site or Christian-usable buildings (nearby ones would be Cordoba, Jerusalem, etc), or mine or university site. Dropping claims on those high value targets is an easy and powerful way to build up your personal holdings to be god tier. From a roleplaying point of view, if makes total sense that the emperor would personally hold the greatest religious and cultural sites in your empire (and/or the world).
CK3 loves to let you know you can only hold 2 Duchies as a King or Emperor, but I decided to look into what happens if you hold more. It's a -15 blanket modifier to Vassal opinion per duchy after 2, which is really not that bad at all. Lately I tend to hold 3 or even 4 sometimes. If you want to check the blanket modifiers for ALL of your vassals, it's in the vassals tab down the bottom near the vassal limit, just hover over the score to see the list of every modifier, including how much tyranny you're on currently.
yeah, going one over domain limit and/or one over dutchy limit is pretty much fine. Sometimes this is even optimal, witch is why "limit" is a bad word for it, cause combined with the notification it makes it sounds like something really bad when it isn't.
I *always* hold 4 as soon as I can snowball the opinion modifiers, one of them preferably being sardinia if possible for the sweet, sweet argentina mine - always piles on piles of money for little hassle 😁
Just a tip for everybody going into wars like this, if you know you don't need way more troops then your opponent, raise your men at arm's seperate and then just raise levies after. Stop raising them when you're getting close to either having way more soldiers than your opponent, or at least stop raising when you're about to go into the red for your income. You don't need 37'000 troops if your enemy has 20'000. Maybe 25000 at most, win a fight, then get rid of excess levies as you win more fights.
Also, by recruiting from Holy Orders, they're FREE armies. But I think you can only recruit them if your enemy is an opposing religion. Hope this tip helps
You can recruit them allwqys if they are avviable
BUT they only join a battle against other faiths
so if you atack the same faith the warriors of the order will simply stay out of the battle you fighting ( army vs army)
ctrl click makes them stop the recruit and move. you can also get used to having a single flag and move it around while fighting. one trick to use holy order, is declaring a war on a different faith, while not raising the armies yet for your other war. you can merge your army with it and then it can be used. unlike allies who are invited in a war so won't help on other wars. but if you want a bit more action, it's always good to have a custom faith and 3 holy sites, revoke the old orders, make new ones, convert vassals, eliminate the ones who refuse and use the new order to fight the rest. since you would already have trouble with other cultures and faiths, make your new religion and a pseudo house vs non house war.
This is one of the central points he makes in the video.
And late in the game, mercenaries are excellent. If you have 200K gold banked, a mercenary army that costs 5K gold is chump change. They cost no upkeep either, just the one up-front cost.
i always go for dread when my empire becomes this big
I truly enjoy this series and have watched all of them. I’ve play CK3 a fudge ton but there’s always something to learn.
I really appreciate both your breakdown and memery. Thanks for the uploads.
I love the “game save” breakdowns. So well done, and helps so much with strategy and how to think about scenarios when they come up.
I love this channel. The sounds effects are absolutely hilarious and I’ve learned so much from watching you. Please keep up the good work!
Super entertaining as always Ziely. You're my favorite CK3 youtuber and I can't wait to see more from you! 😁
This was one of the best informative but FUN videos to watch. I learned so much, thanks!
This video taught me so many things I simply did not know / fully understand... Will be looking through all your content for more gems for sure!!
Nice "YOU WHAT?!" into with your avatar popping up.
Thank you for doing CK3 Disaster saves. It is always interesting to see different problems and solutions to set problems.
Dude your editing is so much fun. Great work
This is a great series. I learn more from this than the hour long instructional videos. Being able to point out the mistakes are key. Just got this on Xbox and this helped a lot. Keep up the good work.
I love this editing. I giggled a couple of times 🤣 and it's also fun to watch this. I can learn a lot from this. I'm subscribing 🥰
I absolutely love your disaster files video. They're a treat to watch.
Great series mate. Always good to see these videos
Just found this channel, both hilarious and insightful. Bravo! 👏🏻
Great video once again. Thankyou for the hard work! ♡
This was such a killer idea Zieley its like a different challenge run every time
I have been waiting so long for a saving your disaster campaign series for this game
Just found the channel, learned a lot of things I've been wanting to know about ck3 in just this video. Thanks dude! Insta subbed.
Holding on to kingdom titles initially is a good idea, but eventually you'll run into the vassal limit.
I don't know in CK3, but owning a kingdom, it's always, in CK2, troublesome, because your vasals want them. For example, you have posesions at Catalonia, and you own the Kingdom of aragon (were you have your passesions) and Castille. Well, the vassals from Castille, gonna want the kingdom of Castille, a lot more, when you are Emperor.
At the end of the day, it's difficult to say what to do and what no to do. If you are near the vassal limit, maybe it's better to just, leave the Kingdom of Castille to some not so close familiar (like your cousin from your dinasty). You gonna need to deal with that one eventually, but at least it's more easy to manage than 5 angry duques.
Your channel is a lovely find. Your relaxing to watch and fun. Keep up the good work
Thanks man! happy you enjoyed it
I just started watching your videos a few days ago (I'm all caught up now hehe). Great stuff man! Interesting and informative which is so nice since I've been looking for a youtuber who really knows how to play this game optimally. Thanks for the content!
P.S. Your presentation style reminds me somewhat of Spirit of the Law's AoE2 videos mixed with Bittersteel's Hoi4 videos. veeery noice
Amazing work dude. You make the best CK videos on RUclips hands down
You're too kind! 😳😳
Love your videos man keep up the great work!
Thanks YoungTidestick, I love your pfp
Love your editing skills, man. :)
The sheep sounds made me chuckle 😆
Good stuff man.
I love this video. It’s awesome you were able to help this guys game. One thing he didn’t seem to do either is the main reason they kept wanting independence from him is because he was putting kings of different cultures in power in lands that they aren’t native to.
There is a button at the top of the menu when granting land to people that I love. It grants the title to someone of that culture. My empire has like 5-6 kingdoms in it and I never have them trying to win their independence because they’re happy. And when you do that as well you will get the option to “grant vassal to proper liege” so it seems like this persons vassal management wasn’t quite where it needed to be.
Just bought this game yesterday and I have no clue how to play, despite a lot of experience in CK2. This has helped a lot, thanks man!
Love it. This way you learn much more from the mechanics.
Loved watching this video!!!
I feel like i learned so much from this video. Just amazing :D.
I love this format in any pdx game ;)
Keep it up 👍
I don't even play this game but I am really enjoying your videos saving viewers games :) Subscribed man!
I feel like this person you got the save from might have wanted to some trait selection. So have your siblings and spare children marry for alliances, but don't do that for your direct heirs. Keep your direct heirs free for some quick pretty woman with decent stats for you quick handsome heir.
i dont play this game but saw the thumbnail for the video and caught my interest think its real cool to help folks out iron out there fuk up's so that speaking-😁 i know not just the fixing but the extent of all ur Hard Work to also make or work editing these videos its a lot of work ur a Great Man for Helping these Peeps.🤓👍🏼🙏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thanks for the vids man, dont have anything else to watch
Thank you learned a lot about management with this
I feel bad I didn’t realize I wasn’t subbed until today! My bad meant to! Love your videos!
This is my first time seeing your content and I think it's a brilliant idea to take ruined games and try to make something of the chaos
I love the star wars edits!! Keep it up we stan the effort
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Love these videos keep them coming
Such a good idea for a video man
I myself like counting up the most powerful members in a faction and seeing if they are relatively close to each other. From there I preemptively raise all troops in between their holdings and take down the vassal levies from strongest to weakest so they can't make the unstoppable swarm.
wow I actually learned smt, great vid!
watching this helpful. i am new. started playing ck3 on console but the advices actually been helpful. i decided to play on easy until i can build up to understanding the game, will eventually move on to play on normal and then maybe Ironman. There is so much to learn. However, I think when it comes to battles having a mouse instead of the controller seems much more easier. lol.
The editing is chefs kiss
This is my first video in the saving the viewers' games series and I love it! I'm going to binge watch the others now! XD
Enjoy!
@@Zieley I did and it's a pleasure to watch and learn from you 😁 I did my own run with tribal Ireland and it was a mess, but I don't feel that overwhelmed now 😂 thank you for the tips and I hope you continue making more videos! 🤗 Oh and I've subscribed just to let you know😂
Never played CK3 or any other title, never will, but watching regardless because the idea of this is just so cool.
20:10 my way of dealing with this is let the rebelion occur, but raising my full troops near the war leader capital before the clock runs out. Once they press demands, I attack their troops while they're raising and then siege the capital. Sometimes you can capture the war leader, maybe some kids, anyway, you may get enough war score to white peace them. After that, they won't form factions for a while, giving you time to imprison them one by one (because they revolted, you have an imprionement reason). After that, revoke the shit out of them and keep/redistribute any way you please
What an epic Robertine play, mine crumbled after about the third generation. Great bailout Zieley! Taking the Glory dynasty legacies (perk 4) can be a good way of calming down some of the factions but for independence there is a point in the stewardship lifestyle that can be good against it. Not so good if you start as a 2 year old King/Queen though. For info for pronunciation; Gascogne = Gas Cone / Frisia = Free Sha.
This video is awesome. Only way to make people better at Paradox games is to show exactly what you do to handle situations imo
Omg just that intro the knight popping over the castle wall and in s very calm voice saying "hello gamers" that shit got me off guard 🤣
Excellent video Zeiley. I hope you and Ottawan Welshman do CK Bingo again soon!
Thanks! We should be making another bingo soon
I never even thought about ck3 disaster saves and honestly who are you? Never seen you before but I'm interested because I saw ck3 in my recommended
Okay so what I learned from this video is "Just play tall dude it's the best strategy just have a very good chunk of land and have manageable vassals that can't fuck you up"
This is teaching me how to play properly and explaining it better then a guide video
"He has a huge amount of debt"
Me with -1k gold making it go even further down because of my levies : it's fine
i think late game its very important to go for stewardship first, then i like to pick up few diplomatic perks and switch to either learning or martial (you wont need intrique unless you trying to build dread, whitch is harder in the new update), but most of the time you go with learning first to get that sweet life bonus. also always take the small health boost at the end of your lifetime to keep you alive a bit longer.
Idk how I came across this but I love it👍👍👍
Ruling with mercy is a fools errand, I rule with fear and terror by executing everyone, and I mean everyone, and appeasing my Vassals with new lands I liberated
Dread is too fucking strong 🤣
This series reminds me of Biffa's fix my traffic videos. Hopefully more people send in failed runs.
another thing you could've done to help suppress the peasant uprising would be to call in your new vassal allies to help you out since you get to call them in for free in defensive wars, and not just the peasant uprisings, once you got an allience with your most powerful vassals you could just let one of the independence factions press their demands, win the war with the power of friendship and then revoke all of their land
Another great way to pacify your vassals is befriending them through the first diplomacy perk in the "Family Hierarch" tree, or with the final Norse "Adventurer" dynasty perk.
True! I love using the befriend perk paired with Friendly Counsel. You can actually make some pretty OP characters that way
Never thought I would enjoy ASMR CK3 that much in my life.
A lot of times I grant kingdom titles as a band-aid for factions when I can't make alliances with a bunch of small vassals but one big vassal is a little easier to manage
Great video, will we see a series of your own soon?
That was super ez, i would've imprisoned every large army holder from the start and save time and effort and marriages. I like the editing of the videos.
When you had a faction of 105% strength, i recently learned you can gain more men at arms troops and this increases your power, so the faction strength in relation sinks. when you are small this is a good way to reduce faction problems, too
Commenting for the algorithm, great vid papa
My favourite CK3 youtuber :D
wasn't expecting the twomad reference, caught me off guard
Thx to this video I know why I have so much rebellion, I give up counties and try to hold duchies and kingdoms for myself.
I learned more from this than hours of tutorials. In my current play through as Great Moravia I’ve taken 90% of slavia and only have around 6000 troops because I only hold my empire title and one county. I also haven’t been upgrading my capital so once I start doing that I should be a real threat to the Byzantines to my south.
how did you managed?
I kept waiting for kingdoms near me to split into weaker groups of single duchy’s and counties. It took me around 400 years to get that far.
Just dropping by to show some support and finesse the RUclips algorithm!
A strong move if you have a faction against you and some time left is just killing some prisoners with a different religion. That way you get a ton of dread, but no tyranny and the faction will dissolve pretty fast
I've never even played CK, and I don't understand like 85% of what's happening, but I'm still watching this series start to finish super invested
4:23
"And now you can see we have this 18k stack here of mostly men at arms."
Shows a stack with 15.38k levies.
The revenge of the sith vibes on killing peasants was pretty hilarious 😂
Love how he dissolved a major thorn in his side with the independence faction by an arranged marriage... Gotta love crusader kings 3 XD
Having duke tier vassals with 1 or 2 duchies is great, but in my in the late game I find I run out of vassal slots and I have to create kingdom titles to give away just to stay under 60 vassals.
I end up making independent crap lands, and marry the leader to my family.
I find that having kingdom vassals in the late game is fine as long as your on top of things. I like to do it cause it keeps my vassal limit down.
In the late game you have to grant kingdom vassals. There are simply too many duchies and you'll hit vassal limits. But if you have 150K troops and their giant kingdom only has like 25K troops, you're not going to be in much danger unless you REALLY piss a bunch of them off.
The fact my favourite joestar came out of nowhere to say OH MYYY GOOOOD is the only reason I need to press subscribe.
Yes please more of these!
Having vasals kingdoms have their pros to, you can mantain content or 5 persons with aliance , council positions and things like that and that can be most of your empire controlled. When a empire expands a lot, the number of dukes that you can have is enormous, and they can do so more problems that a few kingdoms, in my opinion at least
Yea i usually do some kingdom not kore than i can maintain to keep them in the council more than 5 and its kinda starting to get hard when u die.
Very impressive seeing how you manage all the internal stuff. How do you remember all these different techniques.
Perhaps a "manage domain" guide is needed
I learned so much from this