I love this from an RP perspective. King has had enough so he hires a steward to fix his mess before he loses the empire that took dozens of generations to build up.
Trick against peasant revolts with multiple armies: - click on the peasant leader - it´s going to focus on his position/army - get rid of that army and imprison the leader - gg
My favorite thing to do when up against religious peasant factions is to plop my one rally point down right next to them (bonus points if it's in a barony that they're locked in moving into) and call a Holy Order. A massive army appears out of nowhere, letting me annihilate the peasants without risking my own troops at all.
If you're taking over a lot of hostile land and know you will face multiple revolts of the same religion, you can let a small enough stack that will be outnumbered by the local garrison survive. As long as a revolt is happening, no revolt of the same religion can trigger, since they are already revolting. The tiny stack will forever just sit there, allowing you to convert your new lands without fearing a new revolt.
I remember playing as rome with most of my characters focusing on intrigue, needless to say most faction leaders were met with untimely deaths by accidents.
Besides marrying off your kids, you can always rise all your troops before the war starts near the capitol of the strongest vassal that's willing to fight you. Worked for me several times!
This is a good one and works if you have money. I have the feeling that it is going to be patched tho as in CK2 the revolt would not launch as long as you have army raised
@@francescomangini185 Probably marrying someone with an inheritable claim so that your children, one of which is your heir, also gets a claim on that title
@@francescomangini185 All your children inherit pressed claims as now unpressed claims. But in a male preference society the females can't press a claim on Adult males, only child rulers or other females.
One little trick when splitting off the new army: send the men at arms into the new army first, then immediately put them back into the first army, shoots the levies up to the top of the list so you don't run into that "Wii Menu Music" annoyance again and it's mindless quick clicking.
I think the better option is to choose the man at arms and switch them to the "new army" and leaving the unwanted rest in the old army. Then simply click the Select button on the bottom left. That way you divide them into 2 armys without repeating the whole choosing process twice.
@@christophv.3274 The problem with that is that it leaves behind the knights which are also very useful in increasing troop effectiveness. For some reason, knights are all bunched up at the bottom usually.
@@TF2PNub Yep I think it's better to move levies out of the army. You can usually find one levy group below your men at arms so can just click in same spot as many times as needed. This keeps your men at arms and knights in the same army. Paradox def need to update military interface
At that stage in the game, you should always be searching for secrets in your court with your spymaster, so you can get imprisonment reasons and/or strong hooks on rebellious vassals. On another note, while you don't get maluses across the board for holding too many kingdoms, I believe you do get opinion maluses with vassals who desire them.
As an empire It's always best to only hold the Kingdom that is dejure to your realm capital. Either destroy the other Kingdom Titles or give them to family members or vassals. The more kingdoms you hold the more your vassals will desire them.
actually they can usurp it anyway if they hold the lands required for the de jure lands. happens very often with single county duchies that they usurp it right away when they got the money. no notification or sign of this. so if you want to hold the kingdoms, and they got de jure lands, they will have a small malus for the kingdom, the main thing preventing to usurp it is a ton of money they don't have. one trick is to give duchies from different kingdoms so they first need to fight for the others which rarely happens, or go independent first with 3 random ones. actually I want to try breaking up huge kingdoms to form smaller ones, so I got to try how I can do that. and for lands that can't form a proper duchy, like you are holding a mine, best bet is giving a city to an unlanded guy then the county holding it then he is a lord mayor with no complaints and usually they never fight.
@@laszlobandi6456 I think you're confusing creating titles with usurping titles. It's called creating when the title doesn't exist, and usurping when someone else already has it but you take it because you hold more land in the title. You can't usurp titles from your liege.
I don't think vassals get opinion modifiers for holding de jure kingdom titles above them. I think at that tier they only get modifiers for holding duchies and counties that belong to *their* kingdom titles. On my recent 1066 Karling playthrough, I held every kingdom title I could, and would finally grant them decades later as I started running into vassal limit problems. Never saw a single negative opinion modifier for this, again, except for when I was still holding duchies that de jure belonged to them.
I end up making 3-4 megakings who I put on my council and guarantee like me. Prevents almost all but the worst of rebellions from even forming. The only thing you have to be careful of Is the ai losing land to succession.
Something I noticed that the culture and even the religion of some of the vassals are all over the place. If you are a different culture/religion your vassals tend to join independent factions so it is better to give titles to members of your own culture/religion One of my biggest disaster in CK was when my heir of the Empire of Outremer became Catholic French like his mother without me noticing while all of my vassals and my character were Orthodox Greek...
that won't help, they convert to local first time they are confronted, especially if they are craven. you need to convert culture on those de jure kingdom capitals and duchy capitals, then their council does the rest. also you can land your heir a bit earlier to make some relations with the locals, if you just give a kingdom, the first thing they do is revoke a county, then they got a tyranny war and they lose it. while a bit of experience and fame worth a few lands, rather keep a county in each kingdom for each kid you got, then it's easier to make them stabilize. for religions is not that important, and quite hard to convert higher fervor ones, it will be converted by natural process slowly, but you can also get a few cynical counts from a 3rd faith of low fervor, and they convert their county with them. you can keep a single county of different faith for easy prestige and rebel leaders. they are house members and good martial usually. I tried to breed with them but their kids are usually bad. but being part of a house is making them valuable.
@@laszlobandi6456 They don't convert if they are the more powerful in the region. My tactic work better in religious work or when you make your different religion/culture vassals rebel on purpose in a controlled rebellion so you can unsurp their lands afterwards because they were traitors. Though the biggest thing is that in this save he is a catholic ruler and his vassals are Greek orthodox in Germany... I can not imagine him not being at fault for that. He clearly did a mistake or two to get in that weird situation.
Outremer means overseas in French. The "Outremer" is just the first crusades which were 99% French crusades, and like the first crusade proclaimed by a french pope in the south of France. So it makes sense that the Empire of France's outremer converts to catholicism and become of French culture. History even teaches us on how to play CK3 XD.
They went through the trouble of having a custom empire but didn't seem to have much de jure land outside of Francia. Possibly even less. A big part of why everyone wants to be independent is they aren't your de jure vassals
CK3 loves to let you know you can only hold 2 Duchies as a King or Emperor, but I decided to look into what happens if you hold more. It's a -15 blanket modifier to Vassal opinion per duchy after 2, which is really not that bad at all. Lately I tend to hold 3 or even 4 sometimes. If you want to check the blanket modifiers for ALL of your vassals, it's in the vassals tab down the bottom near the vassal limit, just hover over the score to see the list of every modifier, including how much tyranny you're on currently.
yeah, going one over domain limit and/or one over dutchy limit is pretty much fine. Sometimes this is even optimal, witch is why "limit" is a bad word for it, cause combined with the notification it makes it sounds like something really bad when it isn't.
I *always* hold 4 as soon as I can snowball the opinion modifiers, one of them preferably being sardinia if possible for the sweet, sweet argentina mine - always piles on piles of money for little hassle 😁
Just a tip for everybody going into wars like this, if you know you don't need way more troops then your opponent, raise your men at arm's seperate and then just raise levies after. Stop raising them when you're getting close to either having way more soldiers than your opponent, or at least stop raising when you're about to go into the red for your income. You don't need 37'000 troops if your enemy has 20'000. Maybe 25000 at most, win a fight, then get rid of excess levies as you win more fights. Also, by recruiting from Holy Orders, they're FREE armies. But I think you can only recruit them if your enemy is an opposing religion. Hope this tip helps
You can recruit them allwqys if they are avviable BUT they only join a battle against other faiths so if you atack the same faith the warriors of the order will simply stay out of the battle you fighting ( army vs army)
ctrl click makes them stop the recruit and move. you can also get used to having a single flag and move it around while fighting. one trick to use holy order, is declaring a war on a different faith, while not raising the armies yet for your other war. you can merge your army with it and then it can be used. unlike allies who are invited in a war so won't help on other wars. but if you want a bit more action, it's always good to have a custom faith and 3 holy sites, revoke the old orders, make new ones, convert vassals, eliminate the ones who refuse and use the new order to fight the rest. since you would already have trouble with other cultures and faiths, make your new religion and a pseudo house vs non house war.
And late in the game, mercenaries are excellent. If you have 200K gold banked, a mercenary army that costs 5K gold is chump change. They cost no upkeep either, just the one up-front cost.
When it comes to personal holdings, I basically always take counties that have special buildings. Having even a couple of those will give you a massive gold or troop advantage, and many if not most also grant renown while you hold it as well. Examples ad Aachen, Cologne, Gottingen, Paris/ Ile de France (once you have windmills), and any other holy site or Christian-usable buildings (nearby ones would be Cordoba, Jerusalem, etc), or mine or university site. Dropping claims on those high value targets is an easy and powerful way to build up your personal holdings to be god tier. From a roleplaying point of view, if makes total sense that the emperor would personally hold the greatest religious and cultural sites in your empire (and/or the world).
Nice "YOU WHAT?!" into with your avatar popping up. Thank you for doing CK3 Disaster saves. It is always interesting to see different problems and solutions to set problems.
20:10 my way of dealing with this is let the rebelion occur, but raising my full troops near the war leader capital before the clock runs out. Once they press demands, I attack their troops while they're raising and then siege the capital. Sometimes you can capture the war leader, maybe some kids, anyway, you may get enough war score to white peace them. After that, they won't form factions for a while, giving you time to imprison them one by one (because they revolted, you have an imprionement reason). After that, revoke the shit out of them and keep/redistribute any way you please
At 9:10, you were saying there is no issue with holding as many King-tier titles as you like without any negative opinions, but as far as I know, that's not true. If you hold more than one King-tier title, every de jure Duke-tier vassal under the specific Kingdom will have a -20 opinion modifier of you stating 'Desires the Kingdom'. For instance, if you are the Emperor of Francia and also hold the titles of King of France and Aquitaine, all Duke-tier vassals under de jure France will have a negative opinion modifier of -20 saying they 'Desire the Kingdom of France'. This will also apply to the Duke-tier vassals of Aquitaine.
I feel like this person you got the save from might have wanted to some trait selection. So have your siblings and spare children marry for alliances, but don't do that for your direct heirs. Keep your direct heirs free for some quick pretty woman with decent stats for you quick handsome heir.
I don't know in CK3, but owning a kingdom, it's always, in CK2, troublesome, because your vasals want them. For example, you have posesions at Catalonia, and you own the Kingdom of aragon (were you have your passesions) and Castille. Well, the vassals from Castille, gonna want the kingdom of Castille, a lot more, when you are Emperor. At the end of the day, it's difficult to say what to do and what no to do. If you are near the vassal limit, maybe it's better to just, leave the Kingdom of Castille to some not so close familiar (like your cousin from your dinasty). You gonna need to deal with that one eventually, but at least it's more easy to manage than 5 angry duques.
Okay so what I learned from this video is "Just play tall dude it's the best strategy just have a very good chunk of land and have manageable vassals that can't fuck you up"
I myself like counting up the most powerful members in a faction and seeing if they are relatively close to each other. From there I preemptively raise all troops in between their holdings and take down the vassal levies from strongest to weakest so they can't make the unstoppable swarm.
I love this video. It’s awesome you were able to help this guys game. One thing he didn’t seem to do either is the main reason they kept wanting independence from him is because he was putting kings of different cultures in power in lands that they aren’t native to. There is a button at the top of the menu when granting land to people that I love. It grants the title to someone of that culture. My empire has like 5-6 kingdoms in it and I never have them trying to win their independence because they’re happy. And when you do that as well you will get the option to “grant vassal to proper liege” so it seems like this persons vassal management wasn’t quite where it needed to be.
@@Zieley I did and it's a pleasure to watch and learn from you 😁 I did my own run with tribal Ireland and it was a mess, but I don't feel that overwhelmed now 😂 thank you for the tips and I hope you continue making more videos! 🤗 Oh and I've subscribed just to let you know😂
A strong move if you have a faction against you and some time left is just killing some prisoners with a different religion. That way you get a ton of dread, but no tyranny and the faction will dissolve pretty fast
13:56 should have been phrased differently. You can in fact hold more duchies. Once you reach the late game this becomes increasingly powerful, as a single duchy building offers a lot of power. Furthermore your domain limit should be higher due to innovations and better traits, so you can even hold the counties in said duchy.
@@rwn_o7 additionally if you're a smaller kingdom with a lot of 2x province duchies, you can get a lot of bonuses through the duchy system, making your relative fighting capability much stronger than equal or larger peers. latium, capua, benevento, and salerno can all be taken which only account for 9 holdings, but across 4 duchies. this means 1 vassal will hate you - 30 if you had 8 holding slots, in exchange for 2 more duchy buildings. this provides an extra 90% toughness for melee infantry at max upgraded blacksmith, meaning if you had viking heritage, your huscarls/varangian vets would be relatively strong if racks/blacksmiths were built up, while costing 40% less. I think the total would account to 260% heavy infantry toughness, and 204% damage, making varangians worth 91.8 damage and 78 health with no other modifiers added other than buildings. not that I'd recommend it though, lot of no expansion for very specific boost. prefer wetland spamming regimental/camelries to get 20+ knights, and stacking knight effectiveness+prowess. also, if someone reads this, keep in mind Sjaelland is a 5 slot county, with fields/ports, and in the next patch maritime cultural focus is a thing, letting you get 1 series ahead on ports if you wish. 150% dev bonus? if not more. sure someone's gonna do 100 dev Sjaelland super fast (1000? 1100? 1200?) meta and then it's gonna get nerfed.
another thing you could've done to help suppress the peasant uprising would be to call in your new vassal allies to help you out since you get to call them in for free in defensive wars, and not just the peasant uprisings, once you got an allience with your most powerful vassals you could just let one of the independence factions press their demands, win the war with the power of friendship and then revoke all of their land
This is a great series. I learn more from this than the hour long instructional videos. Being able to point out the mistakes are key. Just got this on Xbox and this helped a lot. Keep up the good work.
What an epic Robertine play, mine crumbled after about the third generation. Great bailout Zieley! Taking the Glory dynasty legacies (perk 4) can be a good way of calming down some of the factions but for independence there is a point in the stewardship lifestyle that can be good against it. Not so good if you start as a 2 year old King/Queen though. For info for pronunciation; Gascogne = Gas Cone / Frisia = Free Sha.
Wish I had seen this video during my first long playthrough of CK3 campaign. My player got accidentally (without my knowledge or trying to achieve the dubious honor) voted into the emperorship of the HRE, and three generations later I was so fed up with independence factions/wars and constant unrest I just said "screw you I'm going home to Italy and I'm taking my empire with me!". So my family went back to Italia as independent empire.
i think late game its very important to go for stewardship first, then i like to pick up few diplomatic perks and switch to either learning or martial (you wont need intrique unless you trying to build dread, whitch is harder in the new update), but most of the time you go with learning first to get that sweet life bonus. also always take the small health boost at the end of your lifetime to keep you alive a bit longer.
When you had a faction of 105% strength, i recently learned you can gain more men at arms troops and this increases your power, so the faction strength in relation sinks. when you are small this is a good way to reduce faction problems, too
I just started watching your videos a few days ago (I'm all caught up now hehe). Great stuff man! Interesting and informative which is so nice since I've been looking for a youtuber who really knows how to play this game optimally. Thanks for the content! P.S. Your presentation style reminds me somewhat of Spirit of the Law's AoE2 videos mixed with Bittersteel's Hoi4 videos. veeery noice
Another great way to pacify your vassals is befriending them through the first diplomacy perk in the "Family Hierarch" tree, or with the final Norse "Adventurer" dynasty perk.
watching this helpful. i am new. started playing ck3 on console but the advices actually been helpful. i decided to play on easy until i can build up to understanding the game, will eventually move on to play on normal and then maybe Ironman. There is so much to learn. However, I think when it comes to battles having a mouse instead of the controller seems much more easier. lol.
Ruling with mercy is a fools errand, I rule with fear and terror by executing everyone, and I mean everyone, and appeasing my Vassals with new lands I liberated
i dont play this game but saw the thumbnail for the video and caught my interest think its real cool to help folks out iron out there fuk up's so that speaking-😁 i know not just the fixing but the extent of all ur Hard Work to also make or work editing these videos its a lot of work ur a Great Man for Helping these Peeps.🤓👍🏼🙏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
13:54 Technically you can hold more than 2 Duchyes but it gives an opinion penality of -15. If you'r still a king, being over expected court grandiour combined with decent artifacts can easily offset the penality for 2 duchyes which is usually worth it imo.
I learned more from this than hours of tutorials. In my current play through as Great Moravia I’ve taken 90% of slavia and only have around 6000 troops because I only hold my empire title and one county. I also haven’t been upgrading my capital so once I start doing that I should be a real threat to the Byzantines to my south.
1:20 "fix the organization of ur realm" killed me. There's is no organization whatsoever lol. Last time i played Robertine i was holding 10-15 duchy titles and i had all the duchy capitals with knight effectiveness so i had over 1000% effectiveness with 40-50 knights. 200+ monthly and all my 100+ vassals (all counts 0 dukes) were at 100 opinion. I was stacking opinion modifiers like musical theory, long reign bonus, poet etc. Actual realistic French kingdom. The king is an asshole but the food and music is real nice and the poems slap so no one rebels.
Also I would have handled the middle portion of the video a bit differently. When trying to handle factions the befriend scheme is your friend (literally). Marrying Children off is a good option as well, but at some point you'll run out of children. Whereas if at the same time you also try to befriend your vassals, that can reduce the pressure on you quite a bit and can later on prevent factions in case one of the two children die. And seeing as the character had quite a lot of the martial tree already, it would have been fine switching to diplomacy for 5 years.
befriending takes time, and a lot of the time that isn't time you have. under these circumstances he could definitely have lined up a befriend on the 3rd or 4th strongest faction member while sending off the kids to marry for alliances on the stronger ones though.
Even easier is seeing that the top members of the factions wanted a seat on the council. So that's +40 opinion right there. And if you're loaded like this emperor just send gift to satisfy them to 80+ opinion, and they'll leave the faction.
A lot of times I grant kingdom titles as a band-aid for factions when I can't make alliances with a bunch of small vassals but one big vassal is a little easier to manage
As far as managing factions goes, dip one level into diplomacy (choose the +3 diplomacy focus), just to get the perk that doubles gift effect, and switch your spouse onto helping with diplomacy. While your diplomacy is boosted by spouse and focus, you can be getting anything from +100 to +200 opinion from every single gift (when it's doubled by the gift giving perk). If a faction forms, just give a +200 opinion gift to the top few instigators, and they will drop out within a month or two.
Me fighting every single fucking factions while crushed under huge amount of debt with my ridiculously small army and no allies: *I can do this all day*
@8:45 Kingdoms must be granted out in this game or else you will never get traditions unlocked. Thus the mistake wasn't granting those Kingdoms it was to WHO they got granted to. Independent of King & higher members of your dynasty is gravy pure gold. The renown buffs let you fill out and unlock the OP traditions bonuses.
it's old version so that wasn't an issue before. I'm quite inexperienced with the royal court too, probably will change my habbits. usually I dint granted many kingdoms, it just happened to go to my sons so they become uncles or nephews and cousins and eventually they attack you for your empire. it's just way more income having a lot of counties. but lately I was experimenting on single dukes too, the issue there is that they split on succession. but until then is a single layer or taxation for both a duke holding all counties or a count holding a single one. the only time having a king was useful probably when I had a bohemian steward and the extortion event hit him every time, higher fame for you, and higher cash for him means you can take more of it, which really makes it better than more vassals. but usually my diplomat is who is hit by those extortions. I don't like too many spymasters as vassals, and martial based guys are better off with single counties on dangerous borders that aren't consolidated yet. If you would form kingdoms, better off doing a proper 4 man council and a chosen dynasty member as a liege, convert his capital then release him as an independent ruler.
I've found just spamming archers + archer buildings works the best for Men at Arms. They're incredibly cheap and if you get enough buildings or the life style perk they absolutely demolish everything in their way. Plus, Because they're so cheap, you can field so many of them that you don't have to deal with many rebellions.
You mentioned it briefly, but for people who are hoping to learn, then if you've managed to build up a central power base like Zieley did just now, then it's best to let the faction rise up. Use marriages like Zieley did to make the faction size as close to 100% as you can, but leave your most powerful vassals in the faction. This is because, like Zieley said, the marriages are just a temporary solution to a deeply structural issue. When Zieley was weighing up whether to imprison or whether to allow them to rise up, he mentioned then revoking titles. I'd say this is the better thing to do. Because the faction will rise up in different places, you should be able to put them down. Not quite with ease, but certainly without too much difficulty. After that, you have all your most powerful vassals in your prison and with the criminal trait. This means you have one action against them that you can achieve without gaining tyranny. Take away their kingdom titles. Now they'll still have the powerful duchies after that, so then modify their contracts to enforce partition. This is more effective because instead, when the next generation of the empire comes around, rather than your children being without alliances, it will be their children being without land. Then after that, if you've already got all the land you want and are just trying to hold it together, you'll want to go down the stewardship tree on the right hand side, all about discouraging vassals from joining factions and decreasing tyranny gain. Plus take either intrigue or diplomacy trees that increase your dread. Then, it depending on whether you have a personality that gives you a lot of stress, killing a few minor prisoners for that dread to keep vassals in line should be enough to stop anymore uprisings. But yeah, marriages and even that stewardship tree are temporary solutions that will end as soon as your very mortal character dies. What you want is a colossal civil war that will allow you to reforge your empire into something over which you can rule with an iron fist. And sure, I like granting out kingdom vassals as well. It means there's a lot less vassals to manage. Even when Zieley was king of England, Kent and Mercia were still totalling together around 20,000. So give your Kingdoms to your children or your dynasty. They won't have to rise up, because they're in line for the empire anyway.
I love this from an RP perspective. King has had enough so he hires a steward to fix his mess before he loses the empire that took dozens of generations to build up.
If only they had RUclips back then 😂
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@@RooZvonBooZ “L + No maidens + Gout + Vassal Revolt + Succession crisis + Hunting Accident + Bubonic Plague outbreak + Aztec invasion + Seethe + Cope + Mald”
And this steward is particularly good at his job.
Trick against peasant revolts with multiple armies:
- click on the peasant leader
- it´s going to focus on his position/army
- get rid of that army and imprison the leader
- gg
That's a good one!
My favorite thing to do when up against religious peasant factions is to plop my one rally point down right next to them (bonus points if it's in a barony that they're locked in moving into) and call a Holy Order. A massive army appears out of nowhere, letting me annihilate the peasants without risking my own troops at all.
If you're taking over a lot of hostile land and know you will face multiple revolts of the same religion, you can let a small enough stack that will be outnumbered by the local garrison survive. As long as a revolt is happening, no revolt of the same religion can trigger, since they are already revolting. The tiny stack will forever just sit there, allowing you to convert your new lands without fearing a new revolt.
its not guaranteed tho but peasants are super weak anyways
Usually the leader teleports to the other army though
I remember playing as rome with most of my characters focusing on intrigue, needless to say most faction leaders were met with untimely deaths by accidents.
Unfortunate accidents hapens from time to time. Its tragic but thats life on the top :)
Oh no, they must've fell face first on this dagger!
Oh, the romanity!
I've started as brittany and murdered every leader that has tried to take over france, it's been glorious.
You played roleplay Romans xD
Besides marrying off your kids, you can always rise all your troops before the war starts near the capitol of the strongest vassal that's willing to fight you. Worked for me several times!
That's dirty 😂 but a great tip
This is a good one and works if you have money. I have the feeling that it is going to be patched tho as in CK2 the revolt would not launch as long as you have army raised
You can even spread tiny troop stack on every single province of a vassal, completely preventing them from raising their troops.
thats cheap ;)
@@Vendraz this would be even better! Leave a small troop raised forever and you are rebelion free
Thanks for the save! Really interesting to watch. You have my permission to continue after the byzantines if you want 🤣
Thanks for sending the file in! It was a lot of fun to fix
How did you get that claim though, that's insane
@@francescomangini185 Probably marrying someone with an inheritable claim so that your children, one of which is your heir, also gets a claim on that title
@@dab_u7185 oh thx, didn't know that claims were inheritable
@@francescomangini185 All your children inherit pressed claims as now unpressed claims.
But in a male preference society the females can't press a claim on Adult males, only child rulers or other females.
One little trick when splitting off the new army: send the men at arms into the new army first, then immediately put them back into the first army, shoots the levies up to the top of the list so you don't run into that "Wii Menu Music" annoyance again and it's mindless quick clicking.
That's a good tip, thanks!
I think the better option is to choose the man at arms and switch them to the "new army" and leaving the unwanted rest in the old army. Then simply click the Select button on the bottom left. That way you divide them into 2 armys without repeating the whole choosing process twice.
@@christophv.3274 The problem with that is that it leaves behind the knights which are also very useful in increasing troop effectiveness. For some reason, knights are all bunched up at the bottom usually.
@@TF2PNub Yep I think it's better to move levies out of the army. You can usually find one levy group below your men at arms so can just click in same spot as many times as needed. This keeps your men at arms and knights in the same army. Paradox def need to update military interface
At that stage in the game, you should always be searching for secrets in your court with your spymaster, so you can get imprisonment reasons and/or strong hooks on rebellious vassals.
On another note, while you don't get maluses across the board for holding too many kingdoms, I believe you do get opinion maluses with vassals who desire them.
As an empire It's always best to only hold the Kingdom that is dejure to your realm capital. Either destroy the other Kingdom Titles or give them to family members or vassals. The more kingdoms you hold the more your vassals will desire them.
actually they can usurp it anyway if they hold the lands required for the de jure lands. happens very often with single county duchies that they usurp it right away when they got the money. no notification or sign of this. so if you want to hold the kingdoms, and they got de jure lands, they will have a small malus for the kingdom, the main thing preventing to usurp it is a ton of money they don't have. one trick is to give duchies from different kingdoms so they first need to fight for the others which rarely happens, or go independent first with 3 random ones. actually I want to try breaking up huge kingdoms to form smaller ones, so I got to try how I can do that. and for lands that can't form a proper duchy, like you are holding a mine, best bet is giving a city to an unlanded guy then the county holding it then he is a lord mayor with no complaints and usually they never fight.
@@laszlobandi6456 I think you're confusing creating titles with usurping titles. It's called creating when the title doesn't exist, and usurping when someone else already has it but you take it because you hold more land in the title. You can't usurp titles from your liege.
I don't think vassals get opinion modifiers for holding de jure kingdom titles above them. I think at that tier they only get modifiers for holding duchies and counties that belong to *their* kingdom titles. On my recent 1066 Karling playthrough, I held every kingdom title I could, and would finally grant them decades later as I started running into vassal limit problems. Never saw a single negative opinion modifier for this, again, except for when I was still holding duchies that de jure belonged to them.
I end up making 3-4 megakings who I put on my council and guarantee like me. Prevents almost all but the worst of rebellions from even forming. The only thing you have to be careful of Is the ai losing land to succession.
Something I noticed that the culture and even the religion of some of the vassals are all over the place. If you are a different culture/religion your vassals tend to join independent factions so it is better to give titles to members of your own culture/religion
One of my biggest disaster in CK was when my heir of the Empire of Outremer became Catholic French like his mother without me noticing while all of my vassals and my character were Orthodox Greek...
that won't help, they convert to local first time they are confronted, especially if they are craven. you need to convert culture on those de jure kingdom capitals and duchy capitals, then their council does the rest. also you can land your heir a bit earlier to make some relations with the locals, if you just give a kingdom, the first thing they do is revoke a county, then they got a tyranny war and they lose it. while a bit of experience and fame worth a few lands, rather keep a county in each kingdom for each kid you got, then it's easier to make them stabilize. for religions is not that important, and quite hard to convert higher fervor ones, it will be converted by natural process slowly, but you can also get a few cynical counts from a 3rd faith of low fervor, and they convert their county with them. you can keep a single county of different faith for easy prestige and rebel leaders. they are house members and good martial usually. I tried to breed with them but their kids are usually bad. but being part of a house is making them valuable.
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They don't convert if they are the more powerful in the region. My tactic work better in religious work or when you make your different religion/culture vassals rebel on purpose in a controlled rebellion so you can unsurp their lands afterwards because they were traitors.
Though the biggest thing is that in this save he is a catholic ruler and his vassals are Greek orthodox in Germany... I can not imagine him not being at fault for that. He clearly did a mistake or two to get in that weird situation.
Oh boy...
Outremer means overseas in French. The "Outremer" is just the first crusades which were 99% French crusades, and like the first crusade proclaimed by a french pope in the south of France.
So it makes sense that the Empire of France's outremer converts to catholicism and become of French culture.
History even teaches us on how to play CK3 XD.
They went through the trouble of having a custom empire but didn't seem to have much de jure land outside of Francia. Possibly even less. A big part of why everyone wants to be independent is they aren't your de jure vassals
but why not just grand them independent? those lands are kind of useless anyway. and get som lands and build them up!
@@donkarnage6986 looks cool on the map
@@rayzas4885 Also imperialism. More land=good
@@rayzas4885 i disagree too much bordergore lol
Hey Zieley, love this series! Keep up the good work.
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CK3 loves to let you know you can only hold 2 Duchies as a King or Emperor, but I decided to look into what happens if you hold more. It's a -15 blanket modifier to Vassal opinion per duchy after 2, which is really not that bad at all. Lately I tend to hold 3 or even 4 sometimes. If you want to check the blanket modifiers for ALL of your vassals, it's in the vassals tab down the bottom near the vassal limit, just hover over the score to see the list of every modifier, including how much tyranny you're on currently.
yeah, going one over domain limit and/or one over dutchy limit is pretty much fine. Sometimes this is even optimal, witch is why "limit" is a bad word for it, cause combined with the notification it makes it sounds like something really bad when it isn't.
I *always* hold 4 as soon as I can snowball the opinion modifiers, one of them preferably being sardinia if possible for the sweet, sweet argentina mine - always piles on piles of money for little hassle 😁
Just a tip for everybody going into wars like this, if you know you don't need way more troops then your opponent, raise your men at arm's seperate and then just raise levies after. Stop raising them when you're getting close to either having way more soldiers than your opponent, or at least stop raising when you're about to go into the red for your income. You don't need 37'000 troops if your enemy has 20'000. Maybe 25000 at most, win a fight, then get rid of excess levies as you win more fights.
Also, by recruiting from Holy Orders, they're FREE armies. But I think you can only recruit them if your enemy is an opposing religion. Hope this tip helps
You can recruit them allwqys if they are avviable
BUT they only join a battle against other faiths
so if you atack the same faith the warriors of the order will simply stay out of the battle you fighting ( army vs army)
ctrl click makes them stop the recruit and move. you can also get used to having a single flag and move it around while fighting. one trick to use holy order, is declaring a war on a different faith, while not raising the armies yet for your other war. you can merge your army with it and then it can be used. unlike allies who are invited in a war so won't help on other wars. but if you want a bit more action, it's always good to have a custom faith and 3 holy sites, revoke the old orders, make new ones, convert vassals, eliminate the ones who refuse and use the new order to fight the rest. since you would already have trouble with other cultures and faiths, make your new religion and a pseudo house vs non house war.
This is one of the central points he makes in the video.
And late in the game, mercenaries are excellent. If you have 200K gold banked, a mercenary army that costs 5K gold is chump change. They cost no upkeep either, just the one up-front cost.
"He has a huge amount of debt"
Me with -1k gold making it go even further down because of my levies : it's fine
When it comes to personal holdings, I basically always take counties that have special buildings. Having even a couple of those will give you a massive gold or troop advantage, and many if not most also grant renown while you hold it as well. Examples ad Aachen, Cologne, Gottingen, Paris/ Ile de France (once you have windmills), and any other holy site or Christian-usable buildings (nearby ones would be Cordoba, Jerusalem, etc), or mine or university site. Dropping claims on those high value targets is an easy and powerful way to build up your personal holdings to be god tier. From a roleplaying point of view, if makes total sense that the emperor would personally hold the greatest religious and cultural sites in your empire (and/or the world).
i always go for dread when my empire becomes this big
I truly enjoy this series and have watched all of them. I’ve play CK3 a fudge ton but there’s always something to learn.
Nice "YOU WHAT?!" into with your avatar popping up.
Thank you for doing CK3 Disaster saves. It is always interesting to see different problems and solutions to set problems.
This was such a killer idea Zieley its like a different challenge run every time
I really appreciate both your breakdown and memery. Thanks for the uploads.
20:10 my way of dealing with this is let the rebelion occur, but raising my full troops near the war leader capital before the clock runs out. Once they press demands, I attack their troops while they're raising and then siege the capital. Sometimes you can capture the war leader, maybe some kids, anyway, you may get enough war score to white peace them. After that, they won't form factions for a while, giving you time to imprison them one by one (because they revolted, you have an imprionement reason). After that, revoke the shit out of them and keep/redistribute any way you please
At 9:10, you were saying there is no issue with holding as many King-tier titles as you like without any negative opinions, but as far as I know, that's not true. If you hold more than one King-tier title, every de jure Duke-tier vassal under the specific Kingdom will have a -20 opinion modifier of you stating 'Desires the Kingdom'.
For instance, if you are the Emperor of Francia and also hold the titles of King of France and Aquitaine, all Duke-tier vassals under de jure France will have a negative opinion modifier of -20 saying they 'Desire the Kingdom of France'. This will also apply to the Duke-tier vassals of Aquitaine.
This video taught me so many things I simply did not know / fully understand... Will be looking through all your content for more gems for sure!!
I feel like this person you got the save from might have wanted to some trait selection. So have your siblings and spare children marry for alliances, but don't do that for your direct heirs. Keep your direct heirs free for some quick pretty woman with decent stats for you quick handsome heir.
Holding on to kingdom titles initially is a good idea, but eventually you'll run into the vassal limit.
I don't know in CK3, but owning a kingdom, it's always, in CK2, troublesome, because your vasals want them. For example, you have posesions at Catalonia, and you own the Kingdom of aragon (were you have your passesions) and Castille. Well, the vassals from Castille, gonna want the kingdom of Castille, a lot more, when you are Emperor.
At the end of the day, it's difficult to say what to do and what no to do. If you are near the vassal limit, maybe it's better to just, leave the Kingdom of Castille to some not so close familiar (like your cousin from your dinasty). You gonna need to deal with that one eventually, but at least it's more easy to manage than 5 angry duques.
4:23
"And now you can see we have this 18k stack here of mostly men at arms."
Shows a stack with 15.38k levies.
I love the “game save” breakdowns. So well done, and helps so much with strategy and how to think about scenarios when they come up.
Okay so what I learned from this video is "Just play tall dude it's the best strategy just have a very good chunk of land and have manageable vassals that can't fuck you up"
I myself like counting up the most powerful members in a faction and seeing if they are relatively close to each other. From there I preemptively raise all troops in between their holdings and take down the vassal levies from strongest to weakest so they can't make the unstoppable swarm.
I love this video. It’s awesome you were able to help this guys game. One thing he didn’t seem to do either is the main reason they kept wanting independence from him is because he was putting kings of different cultures in power in lands that they aren’t native to.
There is a button at the top of the menu when granting land to people that I love. It grants the title to someone of that culture. My empire has like 5-6 kingdoms in it and I never have them trying to win their independence because they’re happy. And when you do that as well you will get the option to “grant vassal to proper liege” so it seems like this persons vassal management wasn’t quite where it needed to be.
This is my first video in the saving the viewers' games series and I love it! I'm going to binge watch the others now! XD
Enjoy!
@@Zieley I did and it's a pleasure to watch and learn from you 😁 I did my own run with tribal Ireland and it was a mess, but I don't feel that overwhelmed now 😂 thank you for the tips and I hope you continue making more videos! 🤗 Oh and I've subscribed just to let you know😂
A strong move if you have a faction against you and some time left is just killing some prisoners with a different religion. That way you get a ton of dread, but no tyranny and the faction will dissolve pretty fast
Just bought this game yesterday and I have no clue how to play, despite a lot of experience in CK2. This has helped a lot, thanks man!
13:56 should have been phrased differently. You can in fact hold more duchies. Once you reach the late game this becomes increasingly powerful, as a single duchy building offers a lot of power. Furthermore your domain limit should be higher due to innovations and better traits, so you can even hold the counties in said duchy.
You can hold more than two w/o a negative opinion modifier?
bruh thats wrong, 2 duchies max unless mods are used however if your vassals are happy enough you can carry 3
@@rwn_o7 you can hold as many as you like however each one above 2 gives a 15 opinion penalty. So late game you can easily hold 4 duchies in total
@@lukassonnet reasonable.
@@rwn_o7 additionally if you're a smaller kingdom with a lot of 2x province duchies, you can get a lot of bonuses through the duchy system, making your relative fighting capability much stronger than equal or larger peers.
latium, capua, benevento, and salerno can all be taken which only account for 9 holdings, but across 4 duchies. this means 1 vassal will hate you - 30 if you had 8 holding slots, in exchange for 2 more duchy buildings. this provides an extra 90% toughness for melee infantry at max upgraded blacksmith, meaning if you had viking heritage, your huscarls/varangian vets would be relatively strong if racks/blacksmiths were built up, while costing 40% less.
I think the total would account to 260% heavy infantry toughness, and 204% damage, making varangians worth 91.8 damage and 78 health with no other modifiers added other than buildings.
not that I'd recommend it though, lot of no expansion for very specific boost. prefer wetland spamming regimental/camelries to get 20+ knights, and stacking knight effectiveness+prowess.
also, if someone reads this, keep in mind Sjaelland is a 5 slot county, with fields/ports, and in the next patch maritime cultural focus is a thing, letting you get 1 series ahead on ports if you wish. 150% dev bonus? if not more. sure someone's gonna do 100 dev Sjaelland super fast (1000? 1100? 1200?) meta and then it's gonna get nerfed.
another thing you could've done to help suppress the peasant uprising would be to call in your new vassal allies to help you out since you get to call them in for free in defensive wars, and not just the peasant uprisings, once you got an allience with your most powerful vassals you could just let one of the independence factions press their demands, win the war with the power of friendship and then revoke all of their land
Love your videos man keep up the great work!
Thanks YoungTidestick, I love your pfp
This is my first time seeing your content and I think it's a brilliant idea to take ruined games and try to make something of the chaos
Amazing work dude. You make the best CK videos on RUclips hands down
You're too kind! 😳😳
This is a great series. I learn more from this than the hour long instructional videos. Being able to point out the mistakes are key. Just got this on Xbox and this helped a lot. Keep up the good work.
I love this channel. The sounds effects are absolutely hilarious and I’ve learned so much from watching you. Please keep up the good work!
Super entertaining as always Ziely. You're my favorite CK3 youtuber and I can't wait to see more from you! 😁
This was one of the best informative but FUN videos to watch. I learned so much, thanks!
What an epic Robertine play, mine crumbled after about the third generation. Great bailout Zieley! Taking the Glory dynasty legacies (perk 4) can be a good way of calming down some of the factions but for independence there is a point in the stewardship lifestyle that can be good against it. Not so good if you start as a 2 year old King/Queen though. For info for pronunciation; Gascogne = Gas Cone / Frisia = Free Sha.
Your channel is a lovely find. Your relaxing to watch and fun. Keep up the good work
Thanks man! happy you enjoyed it
Dude your editing is so much fun. Great work
I absolutely love your disaster files video. They're a treat to watch.
I love the star wars edits!! Keep it up we stan the effort
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I have been waiting so long for a saving your disaster campaign series for this game
Omg just that intro the knight popping over the castle wall and in s very calm voice saying "hello gamers" that shit got me off guard 🤣
Never played CK3 or any other title, never will, but watching regardless because the idea of this is just so cool.
Great video once again. Thankyou for the hard work! ♡
I don't even play this game but I am really enjoying your videos saving viewers games :) Subscribed man!
Wish I had seen this video during my first long playthrough of CK3 campaign. My player got accidentally (without my knowledge or trying to achieve the dubious honor) voted into the emperorship of the HRE, and three generations later I was so fed up with independence factions/wars and constant unrest I just said "screw you I'm going home to Italy and I'm taking my empire with me!". So my family went back to Italia as independent empire.
i think late game its very important to go for stewardship first, then i like to pick up few diplomatic perks and switch to either learning or martial (you wont need intrique unless you trying to build dread, whitch is harder in the new update), but most of the time you go with learning first to get that sweet life bonus. also always take the small health boost at the end of your lifetime to keep you alive a bit longer.
the allocation of titles in this empire caused me pain
When you had a faction of 105% strength, i recently learned you can gain more men at arms troops and this increases your power, so the faction strength in relation sinks. when you are small this is a good way to reduce faction problems, too
Great series mate. Always good to see these videos
Love your editing skills, man. :)
I just started watching your videos a few days ago (I'm all caught up now hehe). Great stuff man! Interesting and informative which is so nice since I've been looking for a youtuber who really knows how to play this game optimally. Thanks for the content!
P.S. Your presentation style reminds me somewhat of Spirit of the Law's AoE2 videos mixed with Bittersteel's Hoi4 videos. veeery noice
I love this editing. I giggled a couple of times 🤣 and it's also fun to watch this. I can learn a lot from this. I'm subscribing 🥰
I feel like i learned so much from this video. Just amazing :D.
Another great way to pacify your vassals is befriending them through the first diplomacy perk in the "Family Hierarch" tree, or with the final Norse "Adventurer" dynasty perk.
True! I love using the befriend perk paired with Friendly Counsel. You can actually make some pretty OP characters that way
This video is awesome. Only way to make people better at Paradox games is to show exactly what you do to handle situations imo
Love it. This way you learn much more from the mechanics.
Just found the channel, learned a lot of things I've been wanting to know about ck3 in just this video. Thanks dude! Insta subbed.
watching this helpful. i am new. started playing ck3 on console but the advices actually been helpful. i decided to play on easy until i can build up to understanding the game, will eventually move on to play on normal and then maybe Ironman. There is so much to learn. However, I think when it comes to battles having a mouse instead of the controller seems much more easier. lol.
Love how he dissolved a major thorn in his side with the independence faction by an arranged marriage... Gotta love crusader kings 3 XD
Cool vid man. Nice explanations and stuff
The sheep sounds made me chuckle 😆
Good stuff man.
Ruling with mercy is a fools errand, I rule with fear and terror by executing everyone, and I mean everyone, and appeasing my Vassals with new lands I liberated
Dread is too fucking strong 🤣
I've never even played CK, and I don't understand like 85% of what's happening, but I'm still watching this series start to finish super invested
i dont play this game but saw the thumbnail for the video and caught my interest think its real cool to help folks out iron out there fuk up's so that speaking-😁 i know not just the fixing but the extent of all ur Hard Work to also make or work editing these videos its a lot of work ur a Great Man for Helping these Peeps.🤓👍🏼🙏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
13:54 Technically you can hold more than 2 Duchyes but it gives an opinion penality of -15. If you'r still a king, being over expected court grandiour combined with decent artifacts can easily offset the penality for 2 duchyes which is usually worth it imo.
I love this format in any pdx game ;)
Keep it up 👍
Anyone else here watching these videos, despite not even owning this game?
The editing is chefs kiss
I feel bad I didn’t realize I wasn’t subbed until today! My bad meant to! Love your videos!
Thanks for the vids man, dont have anything else to watch
I learned more from this than hours of tutorials. In my current play through as Great Moravia I’ve taken 90% of slavia and only have around 6000 troops because I only hold my empire title and one county. I also haven’t been upgrading my capital so once I start doing that I should be a real threat to the Byzantines to my south.
how did you managed?
I kept waiting for kingdoms near me to split into weaker groups of single duchy’s and counties. It took me around 400 years to get that far.
Just found this channel, both hilarious and insightful. Bravo! 👏🏻
The fact my favourite joestar came out of nowhere to say OH MYYY GOOOOD is the only reason I need to press subscribe.
I’m watching this as a tutorial to get out of debt 😂😂
1:20 "fix the organization of ur realm" killed me. There's is no organization whatsoever lol. Last time i played Robertine i was holding 10-15 duchy titles and i had all the duchy capitals with knight effectiveness so i had over 1000% effectiveness with 40-50 knights. 200+ monthly and all my 100+ vassals (all counts 0 dukes) were at 100 opinion. I was stacking opinion modifiers like musical theory, long reign bonus, poet etc. Actual realistic French kingdom. The king is an asshole but the food and music is real nice and the poems slap so no one rebels.
Also I would have handled the middle portion of the video a bit differently. When trying to handle factions the befriend scheme is your friend (literally). Marrying Children off is a good option as well, but at some point you'll run out of children. Whereas if at the same time you also try to befriend your vassals, that can reduce the pressure on you quite a bit and can later on prevent factions in case one of the two children die. And seeing as the character had quite a lot of the martial tree already, it would have been fine switching to diplomacy for 5 years.
Most schemes take months though and those independence factions were happening every 7 months or so
befriending takes time, and a lot of the time that isn't time you have. under these circumstances he could definitely have lined up a befriend on the 3rd or 4th strongest faction member while sending off the kids to marry for alliances on the stronger ones though.
Even easier is seeing that the top members of the factions wanted a seat on the council. So that's +40 opinion right there. And if you're loaded like this emperor just send gift to satisfy them to 80+ opinion, and they'll leave the faction.
A lot of times I grant kingdom titles as a band-aid for factions when I can't make alliances with a bunch of small vassals but one big vassal is a little easier to manage
As far as managing factions goes, dip one level into diplomacy (choose the +3 diplomacy focus), just to get the perk that doubles gift effect, and switch your spouse onto helping with diplomacy. While your diplomacy is boosted by spouse and focus, you can be getting anything from +100 to +200 opinion from every single gift (when it's doubled by the gift giving perk). If a faction forms, just give a +200 opinion gift to the top few instigators, and they will drop out within a month or two.
This series reminds me of Biffa's fix my traffic videos. Hopefully more people send in failed runs.
This is teaching me how to play properly and explaining it better then a guide video
Me fighting every single fucking factions while crushed under huge amount of debt with my ridiculously small army and no allies: *I can do this all day*
Thank you learned a lot about management with this
@8:45 Kingdoms must be granted out in this game or else you will never get traditions unlocked. Thus the mistake wasn't granting those Kingdoms it was to WHO they got granted to. Independent of King & higher members of your dynasty is gravy pure gold. The renown buffs let you fill out and unlock the OP traditions bonuses.
it's old version so that wasn't an issue before. I'm quite inexperienced with the royal court too, probably will change my habbits. usually I dint granted many kingdoms, it just happened to go to my sons so they become uncles or nephews and cousins and eventually they attack you for your empire. it's just way more income having a lot of counties. but lately I was experimenting on single dukes too, the issue there is that they split on succession. but until then is a single layer or taxation for both a duke holding all counties or a count holding a single one. the only time having a king was useful probably when I had a bohemian steward and the extortion event hit him every time, higher fame for you, and higher cash for him means you can take more of it, which really makes it better than more vassals. but usually my diplomat is who is hit by those extortions. I don't like too many spymasters as vassals, and martial based guys are better off with single counties on dangerous borders that aren't consolidated yet. If you would form kingdoms, better off doing a proper 4 man council and a chosen dynasty member as a liege, convert his capital then release him as an independent ruler.
I tend to give kingdoms to my family because of that
Never thought I would enjoy ASMR CK3 that much in my life.
Loved watching this video!!!
Love these videos keep them coming
Thx to this video I know why I have so much rebellion, I give up counties and try to hold duchies and kingdoms for myself.
I think this series should be called, "how a pragmatic sociopath saved the kingdom."
I never even thought about ck3 disaster saves and honestly who are you? Never seen you before but I'm interested because I saw ck3 in my recommended
I've found just spamming archers + archer buildings works the best for Men at Arms. They're incredibly cheap and if you get enough buildings or the life style perk they absolutely demolish everything in their way. Plus, Because they're so cheap, you can field so many of them that you don't have to deal with many rebellions.
wasn't expecting the twomad reference, caught me off guard
Just fight the faction leader, capture him and then u win immediately with minimal troops
You mentioned it briefly, but for people who are hoping to learn, then if you've managed to build up a central power base like Zieley did just now, then it's best to let the faction rise up. Use marriages like Zieley did to make the faction size as close to 100% as you can, but leave your most powerful vassals in the faction. This is because, like Zieley said, the marriages are just a temporary solution to a deeply structural issue. When Zieley was weighing up whether to imprison or whether to allow them to rise up, he mentioned then revoking titles. I'd say this is the better thing to do. Because the faction will rise up in different places, you should be able to put them down. Not quite with ease, but certainly without too much difficulty. After that, you have all your most powerful vassals in your prison and with the criminal trait. This means you have one action against them that you can achieve without gaining tyranny. Take away their kingdom titles. Now they'll still have the powerful duchies after that, so then modify their contracts to enforce partition. This is more effective because instead, when the next generation of the empire comes around, rather than your children being without alliances, it will be their children being without land.
Then after that, if you've already got all the land you want and are just trying to hold it together, you'll want to go down the stewardship tree on the right hand side, all about discouraging vassals from joining factions and decreasing tyranny gain. Plus take either intrigue or diplomacy trees that increase your dread. Then, it depending on whether you have a personality that gives you a lot of stress, killing a few minor prisoners for that dread to keep vassals in line should be enough to stop anymore uprisings.
But yeah, marriages and even that stewardship tree are temporary solutions that will end as soon as your very mortal character dies. What you want is a colossal civil war that will allow you to reforge your empire into something over which you can rule with an iron fist.
And sure, I like granting out kingdom vassals as well. It means there's a lot less vassals to manage. Even when Zieley was king of England, Kent and Mercia were still totalling together around 20,000. So give your Kingdoms to your children or your dynasty. They won't have to rise up, because they're in line for the empire anyway.