10 REASONS WHY LEARNING CHINESE IS HARD FOR AMERICANS

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    LIST OF WHY ABC'S MIGHT SUCK AT CHINESE
    1. It’s a hard language to learn
    2. There wasn’t a lot of cool ways to learn Chinese growing up
    3. Which Chinese do you learn?
    4. Chinese-Americans don’t really speak Chinglish with each other
    5. If there’s not some REAL pressure then you won’t go and learn it
    6. People were always super critical when you try and always try to correct you
    7. A lot of Chinese parents just want their kids to achieve so bad that they will just teach their kids English to ensure their best chances of conventional success
    8. A lot of the Chinese that came over were not necessarily educated themselves so they don’t teach their kids advanced levels of Chinese
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  • @DJSaM2K10
    @DJSaM2K10 5 лет назад +3421

    Am I Chinese? : *No*
    Am I American? : *No...*
    Am I still going to watch? : *YES*

    • @peterg0
      @peterg0 5 лет назад +41

      Now I know you are an alien from another galaxy...Actually where you came from?Krypton?

    • @DJSaM2K10
      @DJSaM2K10 5 лет назад +67

      @@peterg0 I'm actually British-Pakistani lol, I've been watching Fung bros for yearsssss

    • @polin1710
      @polin1710 5 лет назад +10

      @@DJSaM2K10 I am Somali-American and same.

    • @pieterwillembotha6719
      @pieterwillembotha6719 5 лет назад +7

      South Africa here, same question.

    • @tikashankar1649
      @tikashankar1649 5 лет назад

      yakuza4 I am Nepali American and still watching this and trying to not make that with Nepali American future generations

  • @therice8024
    @therice8024 4 года назад +759

    you can't speak chinese and english at same time*
    -singaporeans have left the chat
    -malaysians have left the chat

    • @pennyfish89
      @pennyfish89 4 года назад +8

      exactly wad i thought...

    • @jengeo2332
      @jengeo2332 4 года назад +3

      exactly!

    • @CounterStriker013009
      @CounterStriker013009 4 года назад +4

      e.g.: Primary Chicken (You guys don't know what is that mean LOL)

    • @gabeolmeda
      @gabeolmeda 4 года назад +8

      Right, but they are talking in the Asian American context.

    • @therice8024
      @therice8024 4 года назад +3

      @@gabeolmeda right but I wasnt

  • @tyree3774
    @tyree3774 4 года назад +1012

    I’m African American and I’ve been learning Chinese for 10 years. 我学了中文十年。 and I can speak read and write it. At first I thought it was hard but literally studied it EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. I used to go to Chinatown everyday and order bubble tea in Chinese and the staff would correct me if I was wrong and it helped so much. I got mixed reactions..some people would be annoyed with me but I remember the positive reactions. One time two Chinese men heard me speaking mandarin so they asked me my name and if I’m learning Chinese...would you believe one of them actually offered to buy me another bubble tea and even helped me find a bathroom. We even both wrote Chinese on paper back and forth to communicate because my accent wasn’t good (Thank god for knowing 汉字)I think that was the culture that made me respect Chinese people and really want to continue learning.

    • @justsomeguywithascarf8809
      @justsomeguywithascarf8809 4 года назад +19

      You got the sentence wrong it's:
      "我学中文十年了”
      You put the 了in the wrong position and that make it completely wrong. (Well not completely it just not right)

    • @tyree3774
      @tyree3774 4 года назад +51

      Not Satan Employee it’s not wrong...了 can go after the verb 我看了电影 or at the end of the sentence我看电影了....you can even say 我学了中文十年了。 meaning I’ve been learning Chinese for 10 years and I’m still learning it.

    • @justsomeguywithascarf8809
      @justsomeguywithascarf8809 4 года назад +14

      Add to much 了 is unnecessary in most sentences we only need one.
      I was mistaken in the last comment I was trying to correct your placement of the word not了。(sorry bout that)
      You say "我学了中文十年” it not completely wrong it just sound off.
      You could either say”我学中文十年了” or ”我学了十年中文”
      Chinese is very difficult if you put the word in the wrong place it not completely wrong people can still understand you it just sound off.
      i learn Chinese since I can speak and now I'm 18 so ....
      你中文还可以只是不太会用词,再多多努力就好了。🤗🤗

    • @derrickh1673
      @derrickh1673 4 года назад +3

      Not Satan Employee I think both way works but I m not really sure. My Chinese is not that good either.

    • @tyree3774
      @tyree3774 4 года назад +25

      Not Satan Employee to be honest I even asked a girl from Taiwan and she said my Version was correct.... I mean they’re all correct. chinese is very flexible unlike English. I’ve even seen someone say 我学了2年的中文。 In fact if you ask someone how long have you learned chinese....it’s 你学习中文多久了? notice how 中文 is in the middle....and then to answer you replace 多久 with the years....I don’t know but it seems like you’re trying to put me down when my initial comment was very positive..please stop

  • @dominicdo2719
    @dominicdo2719 4 года назад +319

    I was today's years old when I learnt that John Cena can speak Mandarin.

    • @loltrol3920
      @loltrol3920 4 года назад +7

      Me too

    • @snifey7694
      @snifey7694 4 года назад +2

      Well it's been awhile now

    • @arrfffff7455
      @arrfffff7455 4 года назад +1

      Me as well

    • @munchocrisps
      @munchocrisps 4 года назад +2

      I learned Jon Bon Jovi can sing in mandarin. 😛

    • @Mongalingalong
      @Mongalingalong 4 года назад +3

      can he though? he sounds so bad i want to cry but at least he tried i guess

  • @John77Doe
    @John77Doe 5 лет назад +843

    My daughter started to learn how to write Chinese characters and then lost interest. I used her calligraphy as artwork displays in my office cubicle, until somebody who was Chinese explained to me that I was displaying: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 written over and over again in Chinese. 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @detroit7543
      @detroit7543 5 лет назад +55

      That is cool and also cute. Hahaha. I hope she gets more motivated after knowing you displayed her effort and take pride on her

    • @Ungaurdable215
      @Ungaurdable215 5 лет назад +46

      I would still proudly have them displayed.
      But, you had me dying when you said it was just numbers. LOL

    • @JG-gp9yh
      @JG-gp9yh 5 лет назад +94

      一二三四五六七八九十 十 一 十二十三十四十五十六十七十八十九二十 😂

    • @malagabee
      @malagabee 5 лет назад +62

      That’s better than a lot of these morons who tattoo some wise Chinese words on their arms that don’t make any sense or is very corny.

    • @cz2143
      @cz2143 5 лет назад +20

      I feel like this shows the sheer beauty of Chinese characters better. They were pictures to begin with. Our ancestors were using those to depict the nature shapewise and they've changed with time to what they look like nowadays. But there're still great amounts of them that have endured thousands of years to this day. Also there's pattern in the strokes and every character is made up with several certain strokes. From my opinion, learning calligraphy is the best way to learn Chinese because you're always taught the essential strokes first.and this is the first step towards writing. If learning English is like learning a song, learning Chinese is more like playing with jigsaw puzzles. The tones are not the hardest.

  • @PowerCookie1
    @PowerCookie1 5 лет назад +1083

    Zuckerberg has no tones because he's a robot. Also seeing john Cena speak mandarin blew my mind

    • @qminh97
      @qminh97 5 лет назад +20

      More like a reptilian 🐊

    • @ericswchen
      @ericswchen 5 лет назад +16

      @@qminh97 more like half robot half reptilian.

    • @qminh97
      @qminh97 5 лет назад +3

      @@ericswchen still sounds better than terminator dark fate

    • @_Wai_Wai_
      @_Wai_Wai_ 5 лет назад +1

      Imma have to google John Cena. Yea Zuckerburgs Mandarin sucks.

    • @loveislove2359
      @loveislove2359 5 лет назад +9

      John Cena's Mandarin pronunciation was 👍🏻

  • @Hillary_Official_1
    @Hillary_Official_1 4 года назад +21

    I am a Chinese girl who is born and raised in Canada and I am CBC being Canadian born Chinese and I am proud of being Chinese 🇨🇳

  • @taimoc
    @taimoc 5 лет назад +188

    I am Mexican American and live in Houston, Texas and learned Mandarin by joining the CSA at my university. My Mandarin teacher was a Taiwanese guy who also Spoke fluent Spanish as he lived in Guatemala for many years. I took a lot of criticism at the time for studying Mandarin as it was the early 1990's, and I really needed to improve my Spanish, but now I feel vindicated. I can converse with people who speak Mandarin, enjoy Music and Dramas in Mandarin.

    • @yoochin6568
      @yoochin6568 4 года назад +2

      Alan Torres 🙏

    • @skychaos87
      @skychaos87 4 года назад +6

      What is there to criticize for learning a second language? I dread to think of the mentality of those person criticizing your choice. Good for you learning mandarin, it will definitely be useful for you since its the second most used language in the world and it gives you access to the rich 5000 years culture. Regardless, its a choice you made and its more important that you enjoy it.

    • @wanyingguo8405
      @wanyingguo8405 4 года назад +1

      wow hey Houston buddy

    • @RobertKaucher
      @RobertKaucher 4 года назад +1

      And you still have plenty of time to perfect your Spanish or any other language you may want to learn.

    • @calebgao6931
      @calebgao6931 4 года назад +2

      @@skychaos87 No, when some foreigner speaks your native language better than you do you will feel some what pressured, a lot of Chinese people were from south America and majority their Spanish are even better than their Chinese.

  • @8Frostie
    @8Frostie 5 лет назад +551

    I'm a Spanish girl, I've been learning Chinese for 2 years and gosh ahahaha crazy hard, still I love it

    • @keigoyu1975
      @keigoyu1975 5 лет назад +7

      addoil

    • @8Frostie
      @8Frostie 5 лет назад +7

      @@keigoyu1975 哈哈谢谢你啊

    • @imyt5322
      @imyt5322 5 лет назад +6

      Maybe we can be friends haha

    • @skysun07141
      @skysun07141 5 лет назад +9

      @@8Frostie 加油加油(ง •̀_•́)ง

    • @TheGriffithHuyan
      @TheGriffithHuyan 5 лет назад +20

      for Chinese students, English is also a nightmare. For Spanish speaker, you definitely feel less difficulties when learning English.

  • @LAzii1117
    @LAzii1117 5 лет назад +1034

    As an ABC myself, I can approve that all of the reasons in this video are basically true, but I have some stuff to add on.
    My family has been moving between the U.S. and China continuously, and I have lived about the same time length in both countries.
    This comment is going to be super long because I want to talk about my thoughts on China and some of its problems.
    My Background & Experience
    1. I was born in the U.S., but my family moved back and forth the two countries multiple times. Basically, I spent my baby years (age 1 - 5) in China, Kindergardening years and the first-half of elementary in the U.S., second-half of elementary and middle school years in China, and Highschool to College years in the U.S. (currently a sophomore in a university).
    2. I used to think that being Chinese is so ancient and un-cool until the more recent years (2008 - now). China has been developing super fast in the past 20 years, but the media is not catching up, so foreigners are not aware of China's new music industry and media, this is also what China isn't doing right. Many foreigners' thoughts on China stopped at the 1980s and 1990s where Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee, and other older stars shine, they do not know about recent Chinese shows, movies, celebrities, and musicians. While the Japanese and Korean cultures are really shining nowadays, many people still think China is an underdeveloped, second-world country with little entertainment.
    3. I'm one of those ABCs who were encouraged to learn Chinese when young, so I can speak Mandarin fluently now. My family is Fujianese, and the language really is out of the world - it is not really a dialect because it sounds nothing like Mandarin. The language is slowly dying since many kids my age know little to no Fujianese, I can only understand some Fujianese, however, I cannot speak the language itself.
    4. Many ABCs I know have never been to China. In the elders' words, these ABCs are basically "white". I'm usually considered a foreigner in China as well, people always see me as "the kid from America" although I've also been educated in China and I can speak, read, and write Chinese like every other Chinese kid out there (sad, but I love to see people's reactions when I show them my Chinese skills lol). I am too Chinese to be American but also too American to be Chinese (somewhere in the middle).
    5. I have been to South Korea, and I don't see much difference between the cities of SK and China, besides the culture. Seoul and Shanghai look pretty much the same to me (I've only been to both cities once) while Busan reminds me more of my hometown Fuzhou (Capital of the Fujian province, a second-tier city in China).
    6. I SUCK at math. The only reason why Chinese (and Taiwanese) kids seem so good at math is that they were exposed to higher level math during earlier school years. I mean, I was learning stuff equivalent to Algebra 2 and Pre-calc when I was in middle school (I usually can't pass the math tests in China while in middle school, but somehow I can get almost all As on math tests in High School when I came back to the U.S.).
    7. Air pollution is far worse in the North than the South. This is also the con of industrialization, China has been trying too hard to develop in the past 20 years, the government wasn't really concerned about environmental issues until these years when it got really bad. In general, southern Cities in China where I lived really hasn't been influenced by pollution that much, they are just, uh, very humid. I went back to China on vacation last summer and eventually traveled to Beijing. I noticed the air quality difference between Beijing and Fuzhou immediately when I walked out of the airport. Summer is known as the season with the lowest air pollution rates, but it was still bad to me. It's not like I can't breathe or I will die without a facemask in Beijing, but my nose and lungs were just like "I don't like this air at all". I prefer my hometown Fuzhou which is nicknamed "Banyan City" where Banyan trees are everywhere.
    Some Stereotypes & False Beliefs
    1. China is FAR from "BIG BROTHER". China is run by the Communist Party, but they are actually Socialist. There are slight restrictions on what you say and do (you cannot talk/publish shiet about the country or the party online, it's a very sensitive topic), thus you don't see protests a lot, but everyone has far more freedom compared to NK. The government might be watching you, but you are not in total control by them. Besides, come on, it does no harm (And which country's government doesn't?). Cameras are everywhere, but that is true for many other countries (South Korea, England, etc.). Plus, the cameras are used to ensure people's safety, not to spy on you, you really shouldn't be concerned unless you are a criminal who broke out of jail. No one will bother to know what you are doing and they shouldn't and do not care about your personal life. People also generally do not care about politics and just live on in their daily life.
    2. Chinese people don't eat dogs. Only a very slight proportion and a very specific region of Chinese people are known for eating dog meat. At least where I used to live, I have never seen any store or restaurant that sells dog meat nor anyone who had dog meat before. Many people I know, especially the younger generation, loves cute doggies and opposes eating dogs as well.
    3. Don't get me started on Kung-Fu, it's pretty much a joke in China as well.
    I just wanted to point out that people should actually learn about a culture and country before putting labels on it. China deserves more love. Thanks for those of you who will actually read all of this.

    • @user-cj9fs8oh6v
      @user-cj9fs8oh6v 5 лет назад +122

      This is kinda the best English post I read about China. Unbiased and informative.

    • @LAzii1117
      @LAzii1117 5 лет назад +18

      @@user-cj9fs8oh6v Thank you 哈哈哈谢谢

    • @yumchai5205
      @yumchai5205 5 лет назад +36

      So long and so damn right

    • @abhishek.chakraborty
      @abhishek.chakraborty 5 лет назад +40

      I'm an Indian... I dunno why I read your whole comment, but kinda glad to see an ABC perspective 👍

    • @LAzii1117
      @LAzii1117 5 лет назад +16

      @@abhishek.chakraborty It's weird how I got so many replies after 2 months...

  • @DarkHasLight
    @DarkHasLight 4 года назад +221

    chinese culture is very different from western culture. If you dig deep enough, you will find the cool stuff.

    • @chains_of_heaven
      @chains_of_heaven 4 года назад +8

      The first thing I would recommend when people want to watch Chinese shows/dramas is to watch Forbidden Palace (紫禁城) related shows. The plot mainly revolves around the King, a Queen, many wives/concubines and children (depending on the plot). The shows can be very sweet, sad and agonizing all at the same time! A famous show is 延续攻略 (The Story of Yanxi Palace). It is a story about a girl that enters the Forbidden Palace as a servant (奴婢) to get revengue for her sister that died in the palace. You can search it up on Google xD
      It is a super touching story (there's also romance in it) and many people from different countries likes it! Just an FYI. I'm recommending it because I really love these kinds of shows! Some are really bad but most of these shows are really good >^

    • @tx3443
      @tx3443 4 года назад +5

      You think these guys can dig?

    • @tianyangzhang4727
      @tianyangzhang4727 4 года назад +7

      Just don't mix up Chinese traditional cultures and Chinese Communist cultures

    • @tx3443
      @tx3443 4 года назад +2

      @@tianyangzhang4727 why don't you separate everything in China, traditional, communist, rich, poor, east, west, ,old, new, man, woman, dogs, cats...

    • @tianyangzhang4727
      @tianyangzhang4727 4 года назад +2

      @@tx3443 I kinda do, so as everyone. There's part of their local culture that they enjoy and part they do not enjoy, and I think we all have the right to pick what we want as long as it doesn't hurt others.

  • @CoJampee
    @CoJampee 4 года назад +175

    Same reasons why German, Italian, and Scandinavian Americans can’t speak their ancestral languages.

    • @KataneChaan
      @KataneChaan 4 года назад +3

      So you're saying I'm not bilingual? My life is a lie! T_T

    • @hyejoosego5338
      @hyejoosego5338 4 года назад +1

      so true

    • @Mr2tails
      @Mr2tails 4 года назад +2

      There are some who still can speak Pennsylvanian Dutch which is a Germanic language.

    • @christofat2704
      @christofat2704 4 года назад

      Because you are more likely to become an unilingual ,monocultural person if you are native english speakers

    • @ollimonger74
      @ollimonger74 4 года назад +4

      My Grandfather was beaten by my Great Grandfather whenever he spoke German instead of English. As a result he could speak it, but he never taught any of his children. My wifes Father is Puerto Rican. He never taught his kids Spanish, because their Mom didn't speak Spanish. It is kind of sad to see things like that, but also understandable.

  • @CantoMando
    @CantoMando 5 лет назад +342

    You brought up some interesting points in this video - specifically about Cantonese and which Chinese do I learn. I definitely went through that mini struggle of wishing I spoke Mandarin when I was younger. But Cantonese is a dope language with its own unique style and the same goes for other Chinese Dialects. Having so many different branches is what makes the Chinese language so cool - like Higher Brothers rapping in their dialect and stuff.
    I think as we grow up in a Western environment, a lot of just don't think Chinese stuff is cool growing up because it's not as mainstream and accessible. But I think that's slowly changing and hopefully more and more ABCs will start appreciating and discovering this second culture they have. ✌

    • @YukanMan1017
      @YukanMan1017 5 лет назад +5

      Wow it’s Canto Mando!

    • @ruedelta
      @ruedelta 5 лет назад +2

      It's a very common struggle in China, ergo most people do not expect you to have "perfect" Mandarin, not even if you look Chinese. The key is to get to this level of "acceptable" Mandarin and then it's easy to get people to help you out and learn better Mandarin.

    • @kylezhou2572
      @kylezhou2572 5 лет назад

      U def have a point

    • @JimmyZhang
      @JimmyZhang 5 лет назад +11

      shut up sheldon

    • @chankongsun
      @chankongsun 5 лет назад

      I am too an cbc. However. I grow up with hong kong media . an think of myself as chinese hong kong not Canadian. Much like spock or worf. And foreigner visually in canada. Treated as an foreigner in hong kong with an canadian accent . lolz

  • @Mranthony1106
    @Mranthony1106 5 лет назад +385

    I feel like another reason it discourages people to learn Chinese is that Chinese is not just a language but to adapt a new system of thinking. I am a Chinese native myself and I can speak both English and Spanish. I can't generalize all other languages but as far as English and Spanish, they are like chemistry, you strictly follow a set of grammatical rules and you list the element that is required to complete the sentence and boom here it is. On the other hand, Chinese is like philosophy, the literal meaning doesn't necessarily reflect the actual meaning, and the interpretation can differ based on listener's level and understanding of the language. Therefore you need to be able to adapt a very different value and ways of thinking to be able to think in Chinese. On top of that are the characters and pronunciations of Chinese.
    However, I am not telling anyone who is interested in learning a new language not to pick Chinese. Instead, Chinese is a perfect language to learn, it broads your way of thinking and grants you ability to think differently under the same scenario, which is something you will be benefited the whole life. Good luck to all of you.

    • @theowen017
      @theowen017 5 лет назад +5

      和我想的一样、就像之前的一部电影、里面章鱼样的外星人的圆形文字就让他们的思维可以忽略时间看到未来。我突然发现中文也是一样、学会中文的同时就是在慢慢学会中国人思维方式的过程。

    • @holidayharden8032
      @holidayharden8032 4 года назад +1

      羡慕老哥会说西语和英语 能传授点学习西语的经验吗🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

    • @Mranthony1106
      @Mranthony1106 4 года назад +3

      @@holidayharden8032 我觉得学语言都一样的 你要对这门语言本身感兴趣 要有耐心慢慢的一点点地积累 同时学习他们的文化 对我而言我就很对西语感兴趣 希望学习并且交流 慢慢去学校学习 从零开始现在学习了两年多了坚持每周四堂课 我实在愧疚说不上有什么经验传授 如果你对一个东西感兴趣你自然就会找办法 祝你好运

    • @tzu-huisherryyang9251
      @tzu-huisherryyang9251 4 года назад +4

      Very well-said! It’s not just to acquire a speaking skill but a way of thinking and expressing yourself, a whole new culture it is.

    • @holidayharden8032
      @holidayharden8032 4 года назад +1

      Anthony Chen 谢谢老哥 兴趣的确很重要 我现在大三 医学生 要开始准备考研了🥺 现在不得不放下西语 专心攻专业课和英语🙏🏼

  • @karachokarsten6456
    @karachokarsten6456 5 лет назад +473

    我很喜欢学习汉语。我学习在大学也学习在我家。我老师也是台湾人。他是最好的老师。明年我会去中国旅游。
    现在我会去中国超市买一些面条。再见。我是德国人,拜拜👋。

    • @6296boy
      @6296boy 5 лет назад +35

      煮面条的时候放个鸡蛋更好吃

    • @box6277
      @box6277 5 лет назад +17

      不吃pasta吃面条哈哈哈

    • @therensdns31415
      @therensdns31415 5 лет назад +2

      Warum ist dein Lehrer "auch" aus Taiwan? Und die richtige Reihenfolge auf Chinesisch würde lauten: ich sowohl an der Uni als auch bei mir Zuhause lerne

    • @karachokarsten6456
      @karachokarsten6456 5 лет назад +2

      @@therensdns31415 "auch" weil sie im Video sagen, dass ihre Lehrerinnen sehr strenge Taiwanesinnen waren :)
      okay werd ich mir merken. 谢谢

    • @chyngyzsupuev
      @chyngyzsupuev 5 лет назад +19

      我觉得你应该把“学习”和“在”换一下。其实我也不是中国人,所以不太确定。

  • @anitacho833
    @anitacho833 4 года назад +77

    them: abc dont say chinglish everyday
    Me at the dinner table: give me the 肉 (meat in chinese)

    • @chains_of_heaven
      @chains_of_heaven 4 года назад +8

      Simplified version: 肉 *points at it xD

    • @xtong1990
      @xtong1990 4 года назад +1

      哈哈哈哈 you killed it brah

    • @mr.baymax6809
      @mr.baymax6809 4 года назад +3

      I try to type 肉 but i type 肏

    • @pyw_myday_carat
      @pyw_myday_carat 4 года назад +1

      ​@@mr.baymax6809 I don't think their 拼音 are the same though

    • @mr.baymax6809
      @mr.baymax6809 4 года назад +1

      Peng Yu Wu Yes, but sometimes I use hand write and I really need to get used to the difference between those two as one of them is meat and the other? Well...

  • @IamINERT
    @IamINERT 5 лет назад +494

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    *THE END*

  • @sl0523
    @sl0523 5 лет назад +309

    Actually tons of ABCs speak perfect Chinese, either Mandarin or Cantonese or both. They might not be able to write it, but tons of them do speak Chinese perfectly.

    • @M4rteevee
      @M4rteevee 5 лет назад +86

      Shu Cao it’s really sad when children of immigrants can’t speak their parents language. It’s the parents fault. A lot of people say it’s cause some people can’t handle learning more than 1 language, it’s a very American way of thinking. Being bilingual or trilingual is completely normal in other parts of the world. Anyone can be perfectly bilingual if they start young. Assimilation in America isn’t cute

    • @shehimaliyah3816
      @shehimaliyah3816 5 лет назад +7

      Ikr? I go to a Chinese school (in the US) and I don't get what this is about. I'm not Chinese but the ABC's I know speak perfect Chinese.

    • @M4rteevee
      @M4rteevee 5 лет назад +8

      Bangtan Sonyeondan some cities in Canada Like Ottawa and Montreal are really good cause they’re bilingual French and English, and minorities speak their language too. I don’t get parents who choose to speak to their kids in English, it’s assimilation and it’s literally a disadvantage on so many levels.

    • @shehimaliyah3816
      @shehimaliyah3816 5 лет назад +20

      @@M4rteevee From my perspective, the parents don't teach their kids the native language because they want their kid to be seen as American. That's why so many Chinese kids (not just Chinese I know) don't go by their Chinese name but a western name. It's really unfortunate that being different is something to be ashamed of in this society.

    • @chantelleroberts9024
      @chantelleroberts9024 5 лет назад +7

      👍Yes, To many stereotypes, I live in London, I'm fluent in the speaking of English, Arabic, Spanish, Cantonese, I'm also fluent in understanding the written and verbal texts of these languages, with Cantonese I can't write it.

  • @yulingchai1739
    @yulingchai1739 4 года назад +71

    To the people who don't know what "老干妈" is, then damn the flavor that you could've experienced

    • @neckman6147
      @neckman6147 4 года назад

      Lol

    • @noby_huangkonghsiong
      @noby_huangkonghsiong 4 года назад +4

      老干妈 means godmother in Chinese and it is a chili sauce condiment found in Northern and Southern China.

    • @hiitsme1944
      @hiitsme1944 4 года назад +1

      I can’t eat spice tho so like I’m upset- T^T

    • @jessicaxi4000
      @jessicaxi4000 3 года назад +1

      chili soss-

  • @babyphiphi
    @babyphiphi 5 лет назад +11

    3 years into majoring in Mandarin, one year living in China, and oh my god, it's still so hard. Honestly though, when you can finally have a conversation with someone in Chinese, it is one of the most rewarding feelings ever!

  • @BadmintonBecky
    @BadmintonBecky 5 лет назад +189

    I'm a white American blond girl who has been living in china for the past decade. I started learning Mandarin in my late 30's and now I'm fluent (It took me more than 4 years though). I'm TERRIBLE at languages (like most americans), and I still did it in my late 30's so age isn't the barrier that you think it is! I assumed that living in China I would just "pick it up" because of exposure. But that's not true at all. You need to study, preferably with a teacher, for awhile to get the basics. It takes a lot of works to break the initial barrier of Chinese looking like pictures and sounding like garbled noise, to seeing words and hearing tones. Now I have a (Taiwanese) boyfriend, who doesn't speak English, and the majority of my friends are only Chinese speakers too. So don't worry about age. It can be done!

    • @_Wai_Wai_
      @_Wai_Wai_ 5 лет назад +5

      I didn't start learning Mandarin til my late 20s. Now im 40, ive had many interactions with mandarin speakers in the USA, so i can carry conversation in mandarin. But im also a jack of Fujian and Cantonese dialects.

    • @BadmintonBecky
      @BadmintonBecky 5 лет назад +2

      @@_Wai_Wai_ I actually live in Xiamen City in Fujian. But I can't speak any Minnan hua. ;)

    • @aPurpleYAM
      @aPurpleYAM 5 лет назад +2

      You just gave me hope in honing my tones and recognition of characters. I'm in my late 30s, know very little bit of mandarin to get by (self taught.) Slowly realizing that I need the technique of learning a language appropriately. The reason is purely for hobby and to teach my kid to be a polyglot 💞😊

    • @ohhi5237
      @ohhi5237 5 лет назад +1

      even when i can READ IT, it still looks like CRAZY PICTURES, mostly when im drunk

    • @Sandwichplss
      @Sandwichplss 5 лет назад +5

      100% AGREE. I'm 24. I've been studying abroad in Wuhan/Beijing for about 3 yrs and man, Mandarin is just not something you pick up through exposure. Unless your putting in the time to learn its difficult to get through your day to day (aside from using baidu translate).

  • @jaredliu8644
    @jaredliu8644 5 лет назад +461

    What? nobody would stop u speaking Chinese in mainland.
    They would be like:
    White people: ni hao
    Locals: wow you speak good Chinese
    Edit: thx for all the likes! Again most people in mainland would easily get impressed if you speak even a little Chinese they’re just being polite and give you the compliment you deserve since they all know Chinese is very hard especially when it comes to speaking. So next time when you hear people compliment on ur Chinese just take it and remember they are not being sarcastic at all.

    • @stephenhan9680
      @stephenhan9680 5 лет назад +106

      Exactly only if you're white will you get that reaction if you're asian they'll give you that look like "Omg why are you so bad ?"
      It's true for japanese and korean as well.
      I know this from personal experience lol.

    • @jaredliu8644
      @jaredliu8644 5 лет назад +24

      Stephen Han I don’t think people have different standards toward Asians from other countries. If people know that you’re not a native Chinese speaker they would be just like that

    • @peterl8748
      @peterl8748 5 лет назад +61

      @@jaredliu8644 Non Chinese usually get a pass when speaking Mandarin, but ABCs get treated like retards from their slightly off intonation and pronounciation, and this is from my 6 years of experience working with lots of ABCs and foreigners while living in China. I wouldn't consider myself to be an ABC, I speak near perfect Mandarin, know my Chinese history, social etiquette and some, yet the response I got most often from local Chinese during a disagreement was" He's not Chinese, he wouldn't understand". So yeah...double standard is thing in China.

    • @funcats1999
      @funcats1999 5 лет назад +14

      Lol They're so sarcastic . I literally said ni hao with probabyl 75,000 different tones and everytime people were like wowowowow

    • @funcats1999
      @funcats1999 5 лет назад +3

      All you need is 'boba'

  • @enochjoo1019
    @enochjoo1019 4 года назад +8

    I'm Korean american and yet I still learned so much. Keep up the good work!

  • @thetalkaholic
    @thetalkaholic 5 лет назад +194

    I'm sorry but I'd have to disagree about not thinking our chinese culture is cool. As a half caucasian American and half Malaysian-Chinese, I look at American culture and honestly shake my head at times.
    I recognize that both are my cultures but I definitely identify more with my chinese culture and think it's wayyy cooler any day! The respect, the food, the deep roots, I'm sorry but if you don't dive deep enough into the history, the stories, the understanding of your culture at a greater length... is maybe the reason why so many ABC are not happy and proud about their Chinese roots. As a child, I used to reject my Chinese heritage and thought it was "uncool", until i learned and studied more about it, did I learn to love it.
    Dig deeper, and trust me, being Chinese isn't necessarily a bad thing.

    • @francescalee2497
      @francescalee2497 4 года назад +10

      I was exactly the opposite. I grew up thinking Chinese culture was awesome. I learned Chinese and consumed Chinese media. Then I read the history books and realised how backward looking and insular it was, with a social hierarchy that stymied progress rather than promoted it.

    • @juice_2004
      @juice_2004 4 года назад +19

      @@tonymontana5606 I believe that the U.S was first inhabited by the indigeneous people, therefore it's NOT your country unless you are one.

    • @tyree3774
      @tyree3774 4 года назад +4

      I love chinese culture especially because I have fiends from China and I would say they have such respect for me. The type of bond we have is different and they even say “Friends dont say thank you to eachother” they always tell me to go to sleep earlier...I feel like my American friends would let me break night with them lmao

    • @thetalkaholic
      @thetalkaholic 4 года назад +2

      Juicetinluo couldn’t agree more!

    • @stefanosong9314
      @stefanosong9314 4 года назад +1

      for young Childs yes Traditional Chinese culture is not cool, but there is always a but, look at tik tok, dji and bilibili. The thing is that The most motivation of Chinese culture depends on PRC. I am not saying that Chinese people in other areas dunnot contribute. But China is the key to attract Chinese ethnic people to learn and be proud of the culture.

  • @kiwizoey413
    @kiwizoey413 5 лет назад +444

    I'm Taiwanese and I REFUSE to speak English to my ABC boyfriend, because I get so tired using English all day at work so when I come home I stop using my brain. After two years of forced Mandarin conversation and Taiwanese media consumption, he's pretty fluent in Mandarin and Taiwanese curse words now
    Moral of the story: get yourselves a LAZY FOB girlfriend or boyfriend

    • @uscbruin213
      @uscbruin213 5 лет назад +10

      I got a FOB Taiwanese girlfriend and that helped my Chinese a lot 😂

    • @scintientfavabeingz
      @scintientfavabeingz 5 лет назад +4

      but where though?

    • @bigcheesee19
      @bigcheesee19 5 лет назад +2

      scintientfavabeingz I guess somewhere on the west coast I assume

    • @dragonswordmountain2908
      @dragonswordmountain2908 5 лет назад +3

      +kiwizoey413 Another immersion success story, they just keep getting better. But i guess he doesn't know how to read or write yet. Traditional Chinese characters are very hard.

    • @kiwizoey413
      @kiwizoey413 5 лет назад +3

      @@bigcheesee19 ​@scintientfavabeingz We're living in Georgia :) There's hope everywhere

  • @jellofel8138
    @jellofel8138 5 лет назад +101

    I feel like Fung Bros are so underrated. Keep it up, proud of you guys.

  • @billan888
    @billan888 4 года назад

    This is a great video, lots of great information and viewpoints. Really appreciate this video.

  • @UrbnXplr
    @UrbnXplr 5 лет назад +1

    Love these type of conversations. Keep it up guys!

  • @jourdanooi3324
    @jourdanooi3324 5 лет назад +87

    THIS IS THE PODCAST WE NEED!

  • @IcyFlakas
    @IcyFlakas 5 лет назад +98

    A lot of these are 10000% relatable. Growing up as an ABC, I felt pretty disconnected from Chinese culture, and there was never an immediate need to learn it, so I never paid attention in Chinese school. 7 years of it, and the only thing I pretty much got out of it were tones and pinyin. Last year though, I started becoming really interested in Chinese dramas, anime (their anime is getting so good, I'd say it's on par with some of the top tier Japanese animations out there), and novels. I'll admit that entertainment is the only reason why I started learning (Mando) Chinese on my own, but I think this has also helped me figure out my identity. I take more pride in being of Chinese heritage now. I can navigate Chinese social media and explore a whole other world in a different language. I've found that being able to read, write, and communicate in more than one language is so powerful, especially with the internet nowadays. You don't have to wait for English subs or translations, and you can understand social/cultural nuances without needing someone to explain them to you.

    • @nehcooahnait7827
      @nehcooahnait7827 5 лет назад

      it is okay lots of Chinese people love Starbucks too

    • @faizariffin4660
      @faizariffin4660 4 года назад

      You will be bilingual one day. Just keep practicing.

    • @tasty_hotpot
      @tasty_hotpot 4 года назад +3

      I’m a bit late to notice this video and your comment. But what you experienced/your situation is almost identical to mine!

    • @jedychan7259
      @jedychan7259 2 года назад +1

      好好学习,天天向上,看到你作为ABC,能从汉语学习中找到民族认同感,相当于找到自己的根,很是欣慰,希望你有机会来中国,你的祖国看看。

    • @user-ib7fb4gd5c
      @user-ib7fb4gd5c Год назад

      Im just doing it because Im bored and Im abc lol. Plus I want to see chinese nationalist talk smack lol

  • @ebisu.4815
    @ebisu.4815 4 года назад +4

    now this was the first time I watched a full podcast wow so engaging!

  • @trisingapore6796
    @trisingapore6796 4 года назад +47

    Singaporean Chinese
    Allow me to introduce myself

    • @Keean_TTRealm
      @Keean_TTRealm 4 года назад +2

      Haha yes SG Chinese XD
      Note to Fungbros : We're more fluent in Mandarin than dialect overall ! Especially amongst the younger generation, most of us can't speak dialect no more

    • @koi8552
      @koi8552 4 года назад

      ​I'm Singaporean teen that can speak Hokkien and a bit of Cantonese

    • @yubooncheng9309
      @yubooncheng9309 4 года назад +3

      Chinese Singaporean too. Glad to be bilingual cos it really helps when working or vacationing in China or Taiwan, and knowledge is power.

    • @Melcor2304
      @Melcor2304 4 года назад

      @@Keean_TTRealm But there's chinese who are bad at normal chinese, they had to take a simplified course of chinese, I think it's called chinese basic.

    • @minmeowmeow2916
      @minmeowmeow2916 4 года назад +2

      @Big Bird OMG Finally a Malaysian here >

  • @CatherineXu727
    @CatherineXu727 5 лет назад +8

    Thanks for sharing this amazing video! I am a Chinese language coach and a mother of 2 ABC boys myself, I can relate to your point of views naturally, and I will make sure they are surrounded with COOL content to stay in touch with the language all the way through.

  • @andreablengini3450
    @andreablengini3450 5 лет назад +16

    The beauty of Hanzi is based in the amazing layers of a single character. I’m in the procesos of learning chinese, started on my own and from English, wich is my second language, and sometimes I can’t translate in Spanish so I let my brain learn it in the way it can. China has such a wide culture, beautiful landscapes, rich history and variety of people that the effort spent in gaining the abbility to comunicate is totally worth it.
    I enjoy your videos a lot. Jia you !

  • @lucycrespo8848
    @lucycrespo8848 4 года назад +10

    I really love this topic, super interesting and I’m not even chinese or from de US... shout out from Cancun,México guys !💕🏝

    • @yuzhezhang2346
      @yuzhezhang2346 4 года назад +2

      gracias! soy un chino pero me gusta Cancun mucho! Mexico es muy bonito!

  • @sallylam1091
    @sallylam1091 4 года назад +1

    Such a great video👍

  • @tinqwei
    @tinqwei 5 лет назад +41

    *I can relate*
    At home I speak a dialect really close to Cantonese call Taishanese and I can also speak Cantonese.
    The problem is, at school a large amount of the Chinese kids would speak Mandarin with each other. I'll be sitting not being able to say anything and nodding my head pretending I can totally understand.
    So when I find someone that speaks Cantonese (and is from Hong Kong, Macau or GuangDong), I feel emotional and start gossiping in Cantonese.

    • @casie8292
      @casie8292 4 года назад +3

      Chloe Zoo oh I also speak a language that is close to Cantonese too, kaipingnese I think

    • @jayjay8329
      @jayjay8329 4 года назад +2

      I speak taishaneese to my mom is taishaneese

  • @Mackulkov
    @Mackulkov 5 лет назад +51

    Nobody can sing in tone because the melody took over the sound pitch instead of tone.
    Jay Chou was actually blame for his pronunciation but tone.

    • @ghrocker99661
      @ghrocker99661 5 лет назад

      就是!

    • @funcats1999
      @funcats1999 5 лет назад +2

      I always wondered about this. Otherwise it would be hard to ryhme anything. If the song has weaker tones, bc of the melody is it harder to understand?

    • @KillerArmyStyle
      @KillerArmyStyle 5 лет назад

      @@funcats1999 Any Chinese person can understand a Chinese song no matter what the melody is.

    • @Mackulkov
      @Mackulkov 5 лет назад

      @@funcats1999 As a Mandarin speaker, sometimes I do miss a few words in songs because there's no tone.
      Maybe its only me.

    • @tarisae
      @tarisae 5 лет назад

      KillerArmyStyle even Jay Chou? lol

  • @feliciab75
    @feliciab75 4 года назад

    Thanks for sharing. So interesting!

  • @joanc6493
    @joanc6493 4 года назад

    Great video. You make a lot of great points.

  • @LBsCuriosity
    @LBsCuriosity 5 лет назад +11

    Thanks for sharing, I'm starting to like you guys. This video helps me understand ABC better. 你们真棒!

  • @dongzhenying3405
    @dongzhenying3405 5 лет назад +452

    I feel so proud for our Chinese culture

    • @AlexanderHunter-wm1zx
      @AlexanderHunter-wm1zx 5 лет назад

      Profound!

    • @hansmueller5596
      @hansmueller5596 5 лет назад +39

      i hope you realize the communist party in mainland china literally destroyed almost 5000 years of Chinese history . oddly enough taiwan has the majority of books artifacts ect ..

    • @Ben-uk5gf
      @Ben-uk5gf 5 лет назад +35

      @@hansmueller5596 Don't worry, we'll revive it! Just like the Europeans did during the renaissance. :)

    • @EvaHappyweirdoinShanghai
      @EvaHappyweirdoinShanghai 5 лет назад +25

      hans mueller why do you think you can stand for Chinese to say so??? 梁静茹给你的勇气吗

    • @hansmueller5596
      @hansmueller5596 5 лет назад +19

      notice how in mainland china simplified chinese is used whereas in taiwan they use traditional chinese . the communist party is destroying china and it's culture. Taiwan needs to remain strong and never give up ...

  • @BeccyLee
    @BeccyLee 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for this - life changing!

  • @HungryCook
    @HungryCook 5 лет назад

    I don’t know why your video were recommended to me but I enjoyed it. Thank you! You kids are honest and fun and I’m going to watch some more! I remembered while growing up in Shanghai and actually the coolest movies and music, even books were mostly from the West. I guess I don’t blame a kid for not interested in learning Chinese because what’s the fun about it....especially if you live in the US. But, until lately when I started to seek for the meaning of life (things old ppl do), I found it’s really rewarding that I can read philosophy books in both languages and it helped a lot for me to see things from different angles. My husband grew up in the US and he picked up Mandarin so well when we get together. It not only helped his career a lot, but also helped him to find who he is. Language is not only just a tool of communication but also a key and bridge to connect a new culture and its ppl. It sometimes even magically opens up a new dimension of way of thinking, beyond countries. Now I want to learn Spanish, because I think it’s a happy language! :)

  • @lisawu1149
    @lisawu1149 5 лет назад +90

    i’m taiwanese and i moved here in the third grade. i feel like having those younger years in taiwan really helped me retain mandarin although learning english was harder for me. i retained a lot of my mandarin because i read webtoons in mandarin and i watch taiwanese youtubers. now i’m basically fluent in chinese and english.

    • @stanleyccc7997
      @stanleyccc7997 4 года назад +1

      Lisa Wu that’s good! I am struggling to learn English now! Kinda hard😂😂

    • @JasonYu35
      @JasonYu35 4 года назад +1

      Hey Lisa, I have a very similar background as you, as I also immigrated to the US in 3rd grade. I was supposed to move in 1st grade, but my grandparents held me back cuz they wanted me to attain a better Chinese education. Looking back, I think that was one of the most important and best decisions my family made for me, cuz those 2 years turned out to be super valuable and crucial towards my bilingual development.

    • @teohchunfoo5878
      @teohchunfoo5878 4 года назад +2

      很好!我是马来西亚华人!basically i can speak both mandarin and english, even though my english is not that fluent

    • @softia9
      @softia9 4 года назад

      My parents are Taiwanese but I was born in the US

    • @tiffyw92
      @tiffyw92 4 года назад

      @@softia9 ABT represent! I remember the days when basically all the Chinese kids I used to know were ABCs with parents from Taiwan, since we attended a local Chinese school program hosted by strict Taiwanese teachers. Nowadays, most Chinese college and university students are from the mainland, and while most are dears, there's no real connection I can make with them. We may look similar, but live in different worlds.

  • @jaykim7383
    @jaykim7383 5 лет назад +38

    I'm Korean and I'm not fluent English speaker, but I can speak Korean, Japanese, and Chinese. And in my opinion, 2,000 Chinese characters are enough for both Japanese and Chinese.
    And it's not that hard to memorize 2,000 letters because if you know basic 1,000 characters, you can easily guess other characters' meaning .
    漢字 has meaning, and each small part has meaning as well, which means you can just assemble them for understanding new character.
    Anyway, don't hesitate, just start to learn it's not that difficult as much as you expect

    • @chenh339
      @chenh339 5 лет назад +1

      It's still difficult. Were Taiwanese but grew up in Brazil. My mom drilled mandarin in all of us both written and spoken and had to speak Taiwanese at home with my parents. I get a little rusty but I'm fluent in both. But golly it's hard to read and write!!!!

    • @_Wai_Wai_
      @_Wai_Wai_ 5 лет назад +1

      Once you get to 2000 characters, the other characters can easily be inferred from the context the words are used. So language is sort of self reinforcing.

    • @chenh339
      @chenh339 5 лет назад +1

      @@_Wai_Wai_ 😂 JUST 2000!!! Oh that's is sooooo simple I cant even start to begin to tell you !!!🤣😂🤣😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @ashishkalam9337
      @ashishkalam9337 5 лет назад +1

      1000 characters? lol ,my language has 53 Character, and i was fluently bilingual when i was 5, learning English was easier than learning my native language, at 26 characters, it's easier said than done to memorize 40 times as many characters.

    • @vhh1992
      @vhh1992 5 лет назад +2

      You being Korean is an advantage to learn Japanese and Chinese because even though Korean language dropped 漢字, there's a lot of shared vocabulary with related pronunciation among these 3 languages that you 'only' need to learn how to write the words. It's a bit easier for you

  • @ruixie3104
    @ruixie3104 4 года назад +1

    Interesting opinions! Very impressed! I shared this video with some of my Chinese friends. And we pretty agree with your point 2. Hope the world can know more about our culture.

  • @alvajin4291
    @alvajin4291 4 года назад +4

    It's very good and useful to see this video. I'm a FOB from mainland China, and been in LA 15 years. From what I've seen, I totally agree all the reasons that you guys listed.
    Hopefully my little sons can learn Chinese well (no, they have to, not "hopefully"-- typical strong/tough Asian mom 😅😅). PS, I will try my best to not stop them when they speak bad Chinese. Lol~~

  • @jeremytsngtsng
    @jeremytsngtsng 5 лет назад +206

    As a hongkonger I'm jack of all trade, master of none in terms of Mandarin English and Cantonese 😂

    • @Dadouq
      @Dadouq 5 лет назад +1

      Same plus German

    • @holycow343
      @holycow343 5 лет назад +9

      I always felt there's some sort of stigma against learning/.using mandarin over cantonese from Hong Kongers, and Taiwanese people, because of the feud they have against mainland china.

    • @huangricky8146
      @huangricky8146 5 лет назад

      holycow343 thats true

    • @eelunagi89
      @eelunagi89 5 лет назад +8

      While Hong Kong claims to have the "best English" in all of Asia, this doesn't seem very likely. This is because the default Cantonese language has the naturally lazy tones that Andrew was talking about. They're not used to enunciating the same way it's required for English. That's already a handicap for any Cantonese person trying to learn.
      I'm pretty sure Singapore takes the crown of best English in Asia. IMO the Asian language with the best potential to get good in English would be Korean. It's a harsher but much more pronounced language which would come in use in enunciating English words.

    • @jeremytsngtsng
      @jeremytsngtsng 5 лет назад

      @@eelunagi89 I didn't know Hong Kong claims to have the best English in all of Asia
      At least not after establishing reform policy to teach varies subjects in mother tongue instead of in English

  • @TripTripleTimes
    @TripTripleTimes 5 лет назад +9

    I'm not either Chinese or American, but I like knowing about other cultures and this is a good insight into the culture.

  • @xiliu9309
    @xiliu9309 4 года назад +2

    Very relatable. I am a Fob and a new parent and I’m watching the video to look for things I could do to make my kid want to learn Chinese

  • @HaitianCreoleMsCreole
    @HaitianCreoleMsCreole 5 лет назад

    This was educational and nice to watch at the same time.

  • @kyoko703
    @kyoko703 5 лет назад +67

    In Taiwan, Chinglish is fairly common. In fact, in my house hold, it's quite possible to hear someone jump from Mandarin to Taiwanese to Hakka to English all in the same sentence....
    But if the parents start talking in Hakka then it usually means they don't want other people to understand or someone body is in trouble....

    • @JohannChow
      @JohannChow 5 лет назад +1

      lol thats exactly my family too

    • @kyoko703
      @kyoko703 5 лет назад

      @@JohannChow after a while you just start hearing random things....

    • @900Yugo
      @900Yugo 5 лет назад +2

      In my family in Taiwan Espanol. I even set my voicemail in Taiwan to Spanish on my prepaid SIM. So when my relatives call me, I would hear. "UD tiene X mensajes en su buzon".

    • @kyoko703
      @kyoko703 5 лет назад

      @@JohannChow Are you familiar with 玖壹壹 (911)? Talk about multi-language... :D
      ruclips.net/video/JvkqZrYJUe8/видео.html

    • @kyoko703
      @kyoko703 5 лет назад

      @@900Yugo Word!!! Muy bueno! :D

  • @maxzhao3514
    @maxzhao3514 5 лет назад +162

    As China's impact in the world increases, the newer generation will get better and better at Chinese. Also the current gen of ABCs are mostly from poor families who left China for better life, but the newer gen of ABCs will be from families who came to the U.S. to study and have a decent job after graduation.

    • @shirleyz.4506
      @shirleyz.4506 5 лет назад +46

      Zixiang Zhao exactly, I noticed that ABCs from those poor families are the ones finding Chinese culture uncool. In fact they are very ignorant about Chinese culture, they tend to envision Chinese culture as the Chinatown culture, which is really the low culture or peasant version of Chinese culture, but who can blame them? Their parents don’t know much about Chinese culture themselves, how can their kids have interest in and are able to appreciate Chinese culture?

    • @manathac5396
      @manathac5396 5 лет назад +2

      Zixiang Zhao this is so tru

    • @AznCoolDragon
      @AznCoolDragon 5 лет назад

      Wow 你们在派对里一定很受欢迎 lol

    • @xly89726
      @xly89726 5 лет назад +1

      @@shirleyz.4506 说的太绝对了, 父母是忙着打工赚钱没空搭理孩子的教育吧,

    • @shirleyz.4506
      @shirleyz.4506 5 лет назад +7

      xly89726 如果父母是文化人 懂得并且热爱中国文化 他们对中国文化的理解和爱是可以体现在方方面面 让孩子潜移默化的受到影响的

  • @beparis5343
    @beparis5343 4 года назад +3

    大家好!Thank you for this cool vlog! I didn’t know ABC struggled with Chinese this much. I am Korean, I went Paris when I was 25 ( didn’t know any French words at that time) and lived there for 22 years, so I speak very well French. And I started to study Mandarin at 47 in Paris. My intention was to having some basic knowledge of Mandarin, not academic or job market.
    I choose a taïwanais institution using 繁体字, because knowledge of 韓字 is highly recommended among educated Koreans. After I spent good amount of time, 我的中文進步了!I went to 1h classes every weekend in Paris for 3years. Then I got 50/50 at TOCFL reading exams! I visited Taipei for my summer vacations and took classes at university. I could really feel my progression,yay! Now I can read and write, ( I read Chinese Bible and I have beautiful writing, I’m going to teach calligraphy later) I speak with accents, of course, but I am not Chinese anyway, so I don’t feel too much pressure making mistakes. Listening is the most hard one especially I haven’t found good listening materials... Overall, according to my own experience, learning Mandarin is possible, at all age ( like me!) and all backgrounds. All 8 reasons sound really overwhelming, but don’t give up. Learning Mandarin is not impossible yet very fulfilling experience even for foreigners that you guys could only understand once you learn. It will bring lots of surprises and benefits, too. Hopefully next time, you guys can share 8 or 80 benefits of learning Mandarin. 加油!

  • @Mark28644
    @Mark28644 4 года назад

    Great video guys!!

  • @aaronwang4357
    @aaronwang4357 5 лет назад +12

    I admire your courage for bringing out this sensitive topic :)

  • @dontsleep5863
    @dontsleep5863 5 лет назад +21

    Come to Malaysia! Most Chinese Malaysian here can still speak Chinese/Mandarin. It’s still the first language for most Chinese Malaysian household here followed by english/chinglish and chinese dialects (cantonese, hakka, fujian etc). In conclusion, Chinese Malaysian can easily speak up to 3-4 languages. A proud one here!

    • @daneegee8146
      @daneegee8146 5 лет назад +3

      Yea its pretty insane that Chinese Malaysian can speaks lots of languages

    • @JG-gp9yh
      @JG-gp9yh 5 лет назад +3

      Yeah, one of my co-worker's from 西馬 and she could tell what I was saying over the phone in 潮州話, damn that's amazing

    • @dontsleep5863
      @dontsleep5863 5 лет назад +4

      Yes. Really happy to see that the current generation of Chinese in Malaysia are still preserving and practicing our mother tongue (母语) and Chinese culture even though we are already at least the 3rd/4th generation Chinese in Malaysia since our ancestors immigrated here from China.

    • @kazafs
      @kazafs 5 лет назад

      in malaysia chinese most of the people understand chinese they dont want to speak because it makes them felt downgrading themselves if they do.

    • @lokideangelus
      @lokideangelus 5 лет назад

      yup yup MBC represent !

  • @seantwentyfour471
    @seantwentyfour471 4 года назад +4

    Im a 51 year old male, born and raised on the beaches of Southern California, now living in Alaska for 20 years. 2 years ago I found tiktok videos and fell in love with the background Chinese music. I'm proud to say i can read, write, and speak the words "Ni hao" and "xiexie", and that's only the beginning for me! Great video guys, loved it, sorry i'm so late at watching it.

    • @Josh-bf6ht
      @Josh-bf6ht 3 года назад +1

      I think I know what TikTok you’re referring to 😂

    • @jedychan7259
      @jedychan7259 2 года назад +1

      Are you ABC?

    • @seantwentyfour471
      @seantwentyfour471 2 года назад

      @@jedychan7259 I am not, however, I've always felt I was born the wrong race and at the wrong time. I have embraced Chinese culture since being a child, and in my heart I am just a village peasant in the 1500's living a simple life.

  • @biglance
    @biglance 4 года назад

    Good points, good talk. Peace from Macau.

  • @SoraCyn
    @SoraCyn 5 лет назад +9

    I realized only a few years ago how fortunate (younger me: “subject to torture”) I was in terms of learning Chinese - up through middle school, my parents would send me to China over summer break to live with a Chinese literature teacher to study Chinese ~10 hours a day. Pretty much I would get a years’ worth of Chinese literature (taught at school) crammed into two months.
    One of my teachers introduced me to Chinese novels, which I discovered internet novels (jjwxc.net and qidian.com) and thus have been able to reinforce, retain and grow my Mandarin understanding.
    I went back last summer, and people would comment/ask if I came from Taiwan (me: since when do I have a Taiwan accent?? [am from Fujian]), but after about a month I was solidly seen as a native.
    SO grateful to my parents now (not going to tell them this), and literally just got my first professional job doing market research because I can read Chinese.

    • @irishu8166
      @irishu8166 5 лет назад

      Cynthia C lol many fujianese have ‘taiwan accent’ because both taiwanese and fujianese speak the same dialect

    • @SoraCyn
      @SoraCyn 5 лет назад

      Iris Hu that’s true for some regions, but Fujian is infamous for the amount of dialects... the dialect close to Taiwan is “闽南” Minnan, but in the provincial capital Fuzhou the language is 福州话 or Fuzhounese (i’ve also heard it being called Mindong by linguists)

    • @irishu8166
      @irishu8166 5 лет назад

      Cynthia C yeah hhah but one of my friend who speaks 福州话 has taiwan accent as well

  • @verayao4769
    @verayao4769 5 лет назад +47

    BUT there does have a LOT OF ABC who can speak Mandarin.

    • @tytube3001
      @tytube3001 5 лет назад +1

      They sound like they are speaking Orange

    • @theSleepyLamp
      @theSleepyLamp 5 лет назад

      a lot more resources for mandarin

    • @peachmojito
      @peachmojito 5 лет назад +1

      its usually chinglish though (mix of both languages)

  • @chimakalu41
    @chimakalu41 3 года назад

    Fung bros are back. Missed you guys, man. Props on Nigeria episode,guys

  • @changkunli4248
    @changkunli4248 4 года назад

    love it and hope everybody stay well.

  • @lagseeing8341
    @lagseeing8341 5 лет назад +14

    The thumnail says "I don't know". Duolingo bird must be so proud of me right now

    • @funcats1999
      @funcats1999 5 лет назад

      Ayeeee. Telling that I had to google that. Thank you

  • @heatherfuentes2196
    @heatherfuentes2196 5 лет назад +4

    I love this! I didn't know that was going on. Korean adoptee. Winston-Salem, NC

  • @yuminzeng5119
    @yuminzeng5119 2 года назад

    This is a very good video! I am from main land China, doing my uni in a English speaking country. These 8 reasons are really true based what I have learned so far! And sorry for you guys to go through that “people being critical when you try to practice Chinese ”.And your friends are right, don’t put limits on yourself! You could definitely learn good Chinese as long as you want to! Never too late!

  • @tammyyin8522
    @tammyyin8522 5 лет назад

    Making sense for sure! And BTW you guys pronunciations are good, serious~

  • @seanwu1968
    @seanwu1968 5 лет назад +53

    可能很多新移民父母自己的英文可以聽出來不是母語,所以希望自己的小孩英文要完全聽不出來是外國口音吧?

    • @Kai-bw8xn
      @Kai-bw8xn 5 лет назад +4

      可惜因此让孩子错过了很多未来的机会

    • @seanwu1968
      @seanwu1968 5 лет назад +4

      我以前在加拿大住過幾年,我可以理解那些父母的想法。
      影片也有說,台灣父母尤其是教育程度高一些的,通常會設法讓小孩維持一定的中文程度。我自己認識的朋友也的確會讓小孩在家儘量說中文。

    • @tyli6117
      @tyli6117 5 лет назад +3

      Sean Wu 我觉得abc也有口音 一开口就知道是abc

    • @seanwu1968
      @seanwu1968 5 лет назад +1

      Ty Li 應該是吧,不過我英文不好,光想流利說都不簡單了,聽不出來。 :-)

    • @o_o7368
      @o_o7368 5 лет назад

      Kai 美国不知道,加拿大的话,必须要钱会中文的都是售货员拿最低时薪的内种。医生律师工程师等高薪职业几乎不需要

  • @dolsiemercado3140
    @dolsiemercado3140 5 лет назад +11

    Yes Nelson congratulations on your new military look.

  • @tianaxiao
    @tianaxiao 5 лет назад +6

    I think “coolness” is an interesting concept. Growing up, Chinese pop culture was not as mainstream as it is now, but I still had a lot of interest in it. The Korean government actually invested a ton of money in “soft power,” so K dramas, K pop are all sponsored (at least were) by the government. I think China could start doing the same, and then Chinese dramas or pop music could be considered more “cool.”
    And agree that a lot of immigrant parents do place more emphasis on learning English so their children can succeed in life.

  • @gchungus
    @gchungus 4 года назад

    Man it's been so long since I watched a Fung Bros video!! I'm glad to be back! I love being able to hear Asian American perspectives haha

  • @vickyzeng4834
    @vickyzeng4834 5 лет назад +28

    It's very common and normal, it's very challenging to learn to speak the language when you don't have the language environment.(this is only generally speaking, if your parents sent you to a language school or you've lived in China or other Mandarin speaking countries it might be different for you)

    • @raphaelstuckeye3442
      @raphaelstuckeye3442 5 лет назад +1

      agreed, that language environment is so important...most of students in china has been learning english for 10 more years and still can't speak fluently not even pass a simple english test

    • @irishu8166
      @irishu8166 5 лет назад

      Ronzel S yeah true chinese’s english classes in high schools are only about writing and reading english for exams, it’s more about grammar. ;_; we are barely taught how to speak english properly, however, there are still many Chinese who can speak english very well

    • @samsonder1835
      @samsonder1835 5 лет назад

      I work with a lot of Chinese from China and some can’t speak English at all. Some can speak okay and it’s rare when I find one that can speak it well with an Chinese accent.

    • @raynoldreagan4147
      @raynoldreagan4147 5 лет назад

      people need to utilize the power of the internet!
      i'm fluent in 17 languages now thanks to the power of the internet and being able to talk to people thru the internet.
      tho i've also travelled to over 30 countries.

  • @Urlocalmilktea.
    @Urlocalmilktea. 5 лет назад +48

    Omg am so happy the you said Hmong right
    Teacher: what culture are you
    Me:Hmong and laos and Chinese
    Teacher:mong
    Me:Hmong
    Teacher: mong
    Me:*am done with her*

  • @keezytv7854
    @keezytv7854 4 года назад

    Such a good video

  • @ProfessorElectronic
    @ProfessorElectronic 4 года назад +3

    Hey Fung Bros, I am from Singapore. In Singapore, Singaporean ethnic Chinese knows what is the differences between Chinese official language and other Chinese dialect.
    There are lots of Chinese dialect being spoken in Singapore which include, but not limited to Hokkien, Cantonese, ,Teochew and Hakka. Hokkien is the most popular dialect. Many non-Hokkien borned family who are above the age of 40 would likely know how to speak Hokkien, Chinese and their dialect.
    Dialect is usually spoken between middle age and older ethnic Chinese Singaporean with another middle age and older ethnic Chinese Singaporean. For younger Singaporean ethnic Chinese, communicating with another ethnic Chinese Singaporean regardless if that person is a middle age and older person would usually take place in English or the Official Chinese language.

  • @Woestheboss
    @Woestheboss 5 лет назад +7

    As an European born Chinese, the hole podcast was very relatable. The 8 reasons all fully applied to me. This was the reason I subscribed, we're not the only ones.

    • @DC-bm3ul
      @DC-bm3ul 5 лет назад

      Whois TheMan agree!

  • @thewayneschannel1
    @thewayneschannel1 5 лет назад +3

    Can I please get another fung bros real talk? And thank you. Btw you guys are super cool and I love your vibe on videos its super real. Stay fresh cause you can make it out the situation you where born into. 💯

  • @jlpeng9036
    @jlpeng9036 5 лет назад +46

    coming from湖南 at 18. i was going college in the Midwest for 6 yrs, and have been working in bay area for 3 yrs.
    what i found was bout half of the ABC i know, barely speaks Chinese. tho many of them are still cool to play with.
    But for the rest who speaks good Chinese, they ALL, i literally mean 100%, grown up in good and educated family.

    • @alicege4683
      @alicege4683 4 года назад +3

      I have to agree. I feel quite sad for the kids that never had the opportunity to find out how inherently beautiful Chinese is. 当你可以读懂唐诗宋词的时候灵魂深处会触动。I feel sorry for these guys in this video. I'm going to have an ABC kiddo and I am going to make damn sure they are going to enjoy the language and culture.

  • @lilweightlifterr
    @lilweightlifterr 3 года назад

    straight facts in this convo. this is why i enjoy your chinatown food crawls bc i forgot how to say a lot of the things i grew up eating

  • @jennaobrien2144
    @jennaobrien2144 5 лет назад +10

    I can totally relate to this video 😂 I’m determined to learn mandarin because it’ll definitely help me feel closer to my cultural background. Wish me luck!

  • @TheChamp70
    @TheChamp70 5 лет назад +34

    I'm an ABC, but I speak clear Cantonese.

    • @nickeldime1691
      @nickeldime1691 5 лет назад

      Same here. But working on my Mandarin.

    • @chankongsun
      @chankongsun 5 лет назад +1

      Same here cbc. Canadian born chinese. We are like spock or worf of startrek . an foreigner in both sides

    • @samsonder1835
      @samsonder1835 5 лет назад +1

      ABC, and I can speak Cantonese. Got to say, I’m not the best though. But when I speak to a native, they do say I’m good at it. It’s surprising to them too like they spoke to a dozen ABC before that can’t. So, I must be doing something right. lol

    • @nickeldime1691
      @nickeldime1691 5 лет назад

      @@samsonder1835 you have to be proud of your heritage.

    • @gabrielgan369
      @gabrielgan369 5 лет назад

      TheChamp39 Wei, lei hou sohai. Jk 😛

  • @violin7373
    @violin7373 4 года назад +7

    So my ABC daughter watched a lot of recent Chinese dramas, especially ancient Xianxia guzhuang dramas, talent shows, and comedies like Xiaopin. She enjoys them very much and she sounds and reads like a Chinese native. But her English is not as advanced as other ABC “smart kids” who can read five grades above but cannot speak Chinese at all. Hehe 😉

  • @GeneChiu
    @GeneChiu 4 года назад +1

    #1 of 4 ===
    I'm actually a CBC (Canadian born Chinese). I live in Metro Vancouver which has a significant Chinese population when I was growing up and even more so now. My first two Chinese dialects are actually Toisan from my mother's side of the family and Xinwui from my father's side (my spelling/naming may be off, but this is what I managed to figure out). I was born in the 70's, so the time has some context to my experience. At the time, Toisan was quite prominent where I live from what I recall. Also, Cantonese was I believe the most common dialect. My parents put me into Chinese school when I was 4 and they taught Cantonese. Movies and TV shows at the time were mostly in Cantonese and some in Mandarin. I am able to speak Xinwui most fluently, then followed by Cantonese and then Toisan (getting quite hard now). I went to Chinese school for several years. I learned reading and writing, but seem to have retained very little as I didn't use it outside of school. I also didn't retain it as I have some criticisms on how they taught it, but I won't go into that. I am fluent in speaking, but when reading, I estimate I can only make out about 20% of the characters I come across. That's 20% of what I see and not 20% of all Chinese characters. It's hard to understand when you only understand 20% of what you read.
    When I was young, I had very little interest in learning Chinese. I went to Chinese school because that's what my parents told me to do and I did so like a typical obedient kid. I actually hated Chinese school as I did not find it very useful outside of school. There were a fair number of Chinese kids, but I only speak English to them. Only in Chinese school for the first few years did I speak Chinese to kids in Chinese school outside of class (recess). When I got older, I just spoke English even to other kids in Chinese school during recess and before and after class. I only spoke Chinese to my parents and their friends and at Chinese restaurants and stores. I felt Chinese was of limited use. My parents do watch a lot of Chinese TV and movies, so I did have exposure there. When not with my parents, I watched a lot of English movies and TV shows. I think it was early high school when I last watched Chinese TV or movies regularly.
    Many years later, I met my wife. She is Chinese as well. She immigrated here when she was a few years old. She spoke fluent Cantonese like her parents. To each other, we only spoke English as our use of English was better than our Chinese. Also, my Cantonese wasn't that good as I don't use it that often. I try to speak Cantonese to her parents as often as possible. Her parents were really fluent in English, so I could speak English and probably is easier for us to communicate in English. I try to speak Cantonese as I do it out of respect to them. They appreciate it and don't really demand I speak Cantonese to them. I still try to do it as I see it as a great opportunity to improve my Cantonese as well. Prior to meeting my wife and her family, I had to really concentrate to speak Cantonese. I spoke mostly Xinwui for well over a decade. In the 20 years since I met my wife, my Cantonese has improved quite a bit.
    to be continued...

  • @travis2659
    @travis2659 5 лет назад +39

    Damn I learned so much from this convo...Great insights. Focusing only on 700 characters lol

    • @VinceTheCreatorr
      @VinceTheCreatorr 5 лет назад +1

      Damn and I was having trouble remembering all the 26 French letters w/ accents.

    • @TheMemane
      @TheMemane 5 лет назад

      @@VinceTheCreatorr wrong approach 😂😂😂

    • @Wolfgang799
      @Wolfgang799 4 года назад +1

      Computer era, people just use Pinyin of letters to input Chinese on phone, computer, barely do handwriting

  • @Ultradude604
    @Ultradude604 5 лет назад +57

    Cantonese and English blending together in rap works well actually. Some Hong Kong groups are doing it.

    • @Sheltur_0311
      @Sheltur_0311 5 лет назад +8

      L.D Baywood damn calm it bro not all of them suck like that, just gotta give some a chance

    • @FirstNation1492
      @FirstNation1492 5 лет назад

      Guy I'm no push over, why would I give them a chance when their first video is degrading a group of people to portray yourself as cool fuck out of here, OG Macco already spoke on this.

  • @stanleyho8009
    @stanleyho8009 4 года назад +4

    I am Chinese born in the Netherlands I was brought up bilingual and I have no accent with both Dutch and Mandarin I also speak Hakka (Chinese) and English fluently and I am 16. I think if you get brought up bilingual you have no difficulty learning other languages fast 🤷‍♂️

  • @huili6002
    @huili6002 3 года назад

    Omg so that’s y! This rlly helped me!

  • @pinklove8303
    @pinklove8303 5 лет назад +40

    Im a chinese American and went back to my parent's hometown in china last summer. And i stayed silent cas it was literally my first time abroad since i was 2 and was kinda nervous and introverted. And i guess my relatives didnt expect me to know chinese cas I started speaking fluently and they looked so shocked. I mean----

    • @peterpista2652
      @peterpista2652 5 лет назад +1

      can imagine it was pretty funny that the astonishing face your relatives had

    • @litinggoh1169
      @litinggoh1169 5 лет назад +2

      Hi, Lesley Chen! So can I ask how's life in America as a chinese? Because I'm a chinese and really looking forward to study abroad to America. So I wanna know how's chinese life in America. Some people say that Americans look down at chinese and I'm kinda worry about this if its true. Can you please share your experience in America? Thanks :)

    • @weizhang2834
      @weizhang2834 5 лет назад +2

      Doraemon Music 我是中国人在美国,大多数ABC对中国有偏见,视频里的兄弟是很特别的。

    • @pinklove8303
      @pinklove8303 5 лет назад

      @@litinggoh1169 i personally love my ancestral roots and embrace chinese culture but there are some other chinese americans that might think differently but all the abcs i know are really friendly since we speak the same language. But other white americans, depending on the people will be nice or some will be racist. But if you want to study in America, its a great opportunity to experience new stuff.

  • @sophiahan9164
    @sophiahan9164 5 лет назад +7

    Love this! Fyi, Jay Chou did NOT eliminate the tones, just unclear. There will be no tones in songs if you sing in Chinese.

  • @yunpengxia8994
    @yunpengxia8994 4 года назад +34

    11, If you don't speak "good" English, racists will make fun of you.

    • @tiffanylin7138
      @tiffanylin7138 4 года назад +4

      I speak both English and Chinese very well but somehow people still make fun of me qwq

    • @travisliu3032
      @travisliu3032 4 года назад

      @@tiffanylin7138 the skin color is different, it can never be ignored. Even if everyone is friendly accept diversity, "diff is diff"(this phrase is so Chinese = =)

    • @tiffanylin7138
      @tiffanylin7138 4 года назад

      Travis Liu Diff is Diff?

    • @aslater5
      @aslater5 3 года назад

      Meanwhile those same racists are hicks who can’t speak or write their own language properly.

  • @jimh4727
    @jimh4727 4 года назад +16

    Well, don't feel too bad. We're all considered immigrants or aliens in the USA hahahaha.

  • @LakersDude626
    @LakersDude626 5 лет назад +3

    I grew up in El Monte, CA and the rest of SGV (1991 - 2014), and I have to say this video is very accurate about childhood learning of Chinese (Cantonese). Now that I'm 27, I'm glad to feel that I'm not the only one with this sense of shame/ embarrassment. Keep up the great vids.

  • @joshuacollins7398
    @joshuacollins7398 5 лет назад +3

    My cousin is half Chinese and Panamanian. He speaks spanish and English. I am Panamanian-American. We were both born in Brooklyn New York.

  • @heatherbwallace6250
    @heatherbwallace6250 4 года назад

    Your channel is cool though, props to ya! Bless up!

  • @Sun-on6yh
    @Sun-on6yh 4 года назад +7

    Not ABC myself but i speak cantonese, mandarin, malay, english and I can understand a lil bit of hakka and hokkien.
    Chinese Malaysian here!

  • @ernestyap12
    @ernestyap12 5 лет назад +18

    bruh I highly disagree with the "Singapore" part.. we learn/speak Mandarin instead of Hokkien (it's considered a dialect). At worst, we mix English and Mandarin together (just like we have Singlish) but we consider Mandarin "chinese".

  • @FanjinMeng
    @FanjinMeng 5 лет назад +4

    Thanks for being frank. Many ABCs I know do not show that they're proud of the Chinese culture. Very keen observation.

  • @doenjangstew4438
    @doenjangstew4438 3 года назад +3

    I am South Korean and I can't speak English but I have been learning English. The strange thing is, why do these pronunciations sound so familiar and well to me? There are no English subtitles, but I do almost understood this video. Wow, I am also surprised by me.

  • @TT-zf1bn
    @TT-zf1bn 3 года назад

    This was so refreshing, I'm not Chinese myself but as a person of colour its interesting to hear you guys perspective. I really wang yo learn Mandarin too.