As someone who is half Chinese half white, I get asked my ethnicity very often. I used to say, "Chinese" but then people would poke me even more like, "Full? You don't look full." And then I'd have to explain myself. I just grew up with my white mom and don't know any Chinese, so I feel like a fraud saying I'm Chinese. But at the end of the day, I don't look white at all and will be treated as a minority regardless. Therefore I identify more with my Chinese side. But these days I just say I'm mixed and then change the subject. I think it's very important to talk about race, but I do think it's up to the individual on how they identify. My friend is half Chinese half white, but grew up in Japan. He considers himself Japanese, and I think that's totally valid.
My kids are halfers...(that is not offensive or insulting here.) They are 1/2 CBC(Canadian born Chinese) & 1/2 Canadian Scot. They are mixed but, don't speak Chinese. They know a few words...but, were aware of Chinese traditions & the culture. There is a large Chinese community here & my Mom was always heavily involved in the Chinese community.
As a Chinese American, I have thought about this issue, pretty much my entire life. And as I get older, I do feel that I tend to lose more and more of what "makes me Chinese." I think the question, "Am I Chinese?" are really two different questions. First, the the genetic question, do your genes/roots go back to China? But I think the real question on most Chinese Americans' minds is the cultural question, do you feel that you are culturally Chinese? This is a trickier question to answer. Yes, being able to speak/read/write Mandarin (or a local dialect) makes a person more convincingly "Chinese." And I also think that knowing cultural traditions, customs, history of China also help the argument of whether or not a person is Chinese. And on another level, being in touch with current day Chinese politics, current events, and pop culture would also make you more "Chinese."
Identity has always been difficult for me as someone who was adopted from China and grew up in a white American household. I think you can hold multiple identities, the whole idea of intersectionality is real y'all. I feel like as long as you have some genetic basis for being Chinese or any nationality and make some effort to learn about the language, history, culture, food, etc than you can feel proud to have some of that with you
no coming from a place there is Russian Chinese and White Chinese, you clearly do not understand what it means by saying 'being Chinese', it is a cultural thing rather than a genetic thing. Chinese identify by culture, not by blood :)
Mind you there is a difference between Chinese from mainland China and Chinese who were born and raised in other parts of the world. Nevertheless, overseas Chinese and Chinese from mainland do share the same language and similar cultural experiences (but this may varies from country to country). For instance HK Chinese, Singapore Chinese, Malaysian Chinese, Taiwanese, ABG, CBC, Indonesian Chinese, Thai and Filipino Chinese are all difference Chinese people. Each of this country has their own unique Chinese cultural experiences. And if you grew up in East Asia, chances that you might grew up with Asian cultural values and chances that you might be able to speak Chinese (good or fluently) is much higher than say Chinese who were born and raised in Western countries.
There is a large difference between Northern Mainland Chinese and Southern Mainland Chinese. Fujian Chinese are more similar with Taiwanese than with Northern Chinese. Fujian Chinese are more similar with Southeast Asian Chinese than with other Mainlanders. Northwestern Chinese are different from Eastern Chinese. Manchurian Chinese are different from Southwestern Chinese.
Fung bros always have good content! As Daivd said at 18:55, "You have the control of your tent. It depends on you if you want to grow into a village or a town." That says a lot. Preferences among each other are different depending on how you grew up, where you grew up, who you grew up with, and what you grew up to know the facts. In America, social media made all yellow people identities to be one chinese or from China. All yellow people get picked on. Just because Chinese may be the majority of the Asian background in America, they seem to be targeted more, but not true. We all get picked on at point or the other either in school, streets, or at work. We learned to step up and play the game and fought back and spoke up about it. At the end of the day, we are one. Unity makes peace. Unfortunately, we can not change our identity, heritage, and culture, but you must know who you are deep inside. Perhaps I am Hmong. Due to long conflict years of conflicts in China for thousands of years, it did stained and ruined a lot of our elders histories just like the Nanjing Massacre, but 10 times more since Hmong resides in China for 5000 years. True Hmong blood will never be assimilated to be Han like other smaller ethnicities even after being slaughtered, raped, and eliminated, but there are still those last seeds that will still rebell to the end. Finally, at last, it's the first time in our Hmong history in China that we have not fought against anyone for over 80 years straight ever since the sleeping elephant was awakened, thanks to the Western colonizations. Without that, there would've been 56 countries in China or more. Unity is peace. Unity is prosperity. Unity makes love. There is a Hmong saying, "Hmong must love Hmong, because no one else will love Hmong. Fight to the end." Hmong were the indigenous people of China, and they are Chinese and 1 of the 56 ethnic groups who made the middle kingdom today, Zhongguo! Now it's up to you if you want to transform your tent into a village or a town, then a city and a country, or do you want to be just a lonely tent. Up to you. Sooner or later, we all will speak Mandarin. Even the indochina Hmong still has so much in common and uses the same phrases and words in Mandarin.
This is very insightful and hard hitting. I agree with all your recommendations. If we want a sustainable community, we have no choice but to do these things. I like to talk about Chinese culture and history with others, but there are other things I need to work on.
As a Hmong-American with Chinese friends from different countries like China, Malaysia, and the US. The answer greatly depends on who you ask and where they're from. A Chinese-American will never see me as Chinese even if they're friends with or in a relationship with a Hmong person. Chinese-Malaysians don't even know we exist until meeting us and therefore wouldn't see me as Chinese. A Chinese mainlander will straight up tell me I'm Chinese even if it would offend me.
My time to respond. Yeah basically. Very few ABC know that Hmong people belong to the 5 largest ethnic group in China. Mainlanders on the other hand will at the very least acknowledge your history even if they don’t consider you a modern day Chinese.
@SouRi1Two3 A lot of mainlanders just became like Americans. They have the same mindset as then now days. Not all, but the majority. It is the society and era. No one wants to learn the history and its past conflicts. But then, to some of us, we must learn from the past to avoid it to repeat again.
you are not Miao ethnic in China, so you're not Chinese, but Miao people in China consider themselves as Chinese, much like in my region, white Chinese and Russian Chinese still consider ourselves as Chinese. But we wouldn't go out and say all Russians are Chinese. so long as you know the difference then claim whatever you are, as the ones in China, we only consider ourselves as Chinese. and we don't care how the overseas folks think, it's not of your business nor our business to tell the other otherwise :)
1. Chinese heritage. Got it. 2. Chinese language proficiency. Got it. 3. Chinese crowds. Got it. 4. Chinese foods. Got it. 5. Use of chopsticks. Got it. 6. Monkey king and chinese new year. Got it. 7. Order items on the Chinese menu in Chinese. Got it too. Even though I am semi-literate. LOL. 8. My parents. They can fit into the non-self-hating friends cuz they were born and raised in China and make contact with their relatives often, even giving gifts and money to them on return trips. 9. Nah. I just get treated as Asian. LOL 10. Chinese name, and able to write it in Chinese characters with the proper brushstroke order. Yep, got it. If I am not Chinese, what else can I be? American? Well, I am American by nationality only. But as I was born in China, I did have a Chinese passport to prove that I was a Chinese (PRC) citizen. Of course, it's void at this point because of my US citizenship/nationality. So for me, it's easy for me to say that I am Chinese.
My 1st encounter with people from Asia: "Are you Chinese?" Chinese from Asia asked me in the 1990s, in a tech company where I was the only female engineer, and only 2 white males in the whole engineering dept. I said "we are call Chinese Americans". They had never stop attacking me since; followed by South Asians, and people from Indo China as the Silicon Valley hired more and more people from Asia. I think a Chinese female programmer from Taiwan tried to warn me before she left the company. They asked me "where are you from?" I said I grew up in NYC. They called me a liar😮💨 b/c they didn't know Chinese/Taishanese such as my ancestors have been in America since the 1800s. They said "you said you go back to NYC every Xmas, so how long it takes to flight from SFO to NYC. I said " ~5 hrs and ~6 hrs". They said why 2 different times and called me a liar. I 🙄😮💨. These are engineers, shouldn't they know about the earth rotation and route difference? They also went around saying "she doesn't know anything" 😮💨 They asked me if I have a driver's license. I said I got mine in High School, like most American kids. They didn't believe high school kids could get a driver's license b/c in their homeland, high school kids couldn't, and called me a liar 😮💨. On a company trip to Reno, they asked if I know how to ski. I said yes. They called me a liar 😮💨until they saw me skiing down the hill. They surf porns during office hours and in groups openly. Most Americans knew this was illegal and shouldn't do so during office hours. It is as if watching one's parents in the act of conceived oneself and respectful toward one's mother who gave birth. Speaking of porn, Reddit used to have a site called Revenge Porn where most were photoshopped meant to ruin women's lives; particularly accomplished women. When Ellen Pao became CEO, she shut the site down and paid the price of being ousted. In s Startup, an Indo-China Verification Director who took a week to debug a 4-line stimulation script, and his protégé, who didn't speak OR write English, nor write computer codes, followed me to the bathroom every time for months and came inside while I was doing my business. I was fired for complaining. Anyone complains is consider a trouble maker in the Silicon Valley/Tech. Suing such as done by Ellen Pao brought in retaliations by nearly the whole Silicon Valley and Tech. In her case, also millions of South Asian males. Am a former Scientist/EE adjunct Prof and was the only person could complete one of the most complex chip development project - emulation. Basically, the whole Silicon Valley/Tech industry are full of scums, pedophiles and invaders like these. I was fired for talking too much by Toshiba's South Asian male management. Dispute unprecedented accomplishments in theUSPTO, I was fired in a haste of 2 days when most took months to years. On my last day, their offsprings, one East American female and one Indo-China American male elbowed my chest/breast. They were both on a chopping block for years, and saved by a black Union Rep, who months before, elbowed my chest/breast. Someone, a middle age white male who also helped them from being terminated, saw that and may had complained for me. I was a probationary employee at the time, didn't want to be labeled as a trouble maker by complaining and fired. I learned people from Asia and Chinese Americans just don't mix well😮💨. Guess why the Silicon Valley decided to hire H1Bs from Asia beginning in the 1990s, who either don't or barely speak legible English and foreign looking; instead of Europeans, East Europeans, Russians or South Americans? White Silicon Valley males think all Asians are from Asia, and Asian American women engineers such as I with such outstanding performance is indicative of people in Asia, and that male engineers from Asia got to out performed Chinese American women engineers b/c they are males. 🤡💩🧠 Asian invaders reached critical mass in 2001 in SF Bay Area/Silicon Valley. As such, I was under physical harm and ra pe threats everywhere I went, and had to abscond from the Silicon Valley. Also under constant verbal harassments in Mandarin in NYC's Chinatown.
I’m Hmong. My mentor from Guangdong says that we are Chinese. Every Chinese person I’ve met online who learns what Hmong is says oh you’re Chinese. I don’t feel Chinese. My ancestors were from China. Our history is Chinese. A Hmong girl from Yunnan told me I might not be Chinese but I should fight anyone who denies my history as being of China. She was very passionate about it😂. I still don’t feel it. My parents feel Laotian. I don’t know how I feel like. American? Still feel like a perpetual foreigner though. iono… 🤷♂️
I'm also a Hmong, and my friend from Wuhan straight up said to me, "You're Chinese. I don't care if I offend you". I've had other Chinese mainlanders tell stories of when they came to the US and met Hmong-Americans, and they also told them they're Chinese. Unlike you I do see myself as Chinese. I think part of the reason is, how can I call myself Hmong if I deny my 5000 years of history in China and only associate with maybe 150 years of history in Laos. There are Chinese-American families who have lived in the US longer than my family has lived in Laos lol I guess this is why I don't really feel like a perpetual foreigner, because I know who I am and my identity.
@@jackvue722 oh I’m with you on the Laotian thing. My parents feel lao and when we were young their generation pushed that identity on us. We’ve only been there since the late 1800s. I don’t have any connection to what is basically a pit stop in history for my family. You’re also right about many generational ABC. There are families here who have been in america since before our ancestors left China. But I’m glade that you have a sense of who you are.
you are chinese if you hold a prc passport. Hainan can be different to people in sichuan but they all prc passport holders. Hawaii is different from Vermont all americans.
I’m Filipino with some Chinese ancestry, but that was so long ago in my family that I feel like an outsider amongst my Chinese friends. When my grandfather passed away, he briefly mentioned that we originally had a Chinese surname. So aside from that, Filipino culture influenced by Chinese culture & my personal research into Chinese history, I don’t have a strong connection. Still, it’s something I acknowledge.
Well I eat a lot using my chopsticks and my nickname at school was Chinese. I speak Chinese mandarin and a little of Cantonese, but once a Chinese girl on Instagram thought I was Chinese after I wrote in Chinese that I am Portuguese. I felt happy when happened, like I love Chinese culture since my childhood.
If writing in Chinese mandarin with my Taiwanese friends, eating with chopsticks Portuguese food, watching Chinese dramas without English subtitles, makes me considered Chinese, then I am happy with that. My Chinese name,I chose was in a list of auspicious Chinese names for the year of the horse and I wrote my Chinese name in traditional characters.
The answer to your question is that to be Chinese, one must hold Chinese legal personality. I am not Canadian; I possess Canadian legal personality. I am a human being residing on Earth, born in a territory controlled by the modern Roman Empire, which has granted me Canadian legal personality. This concept applies worldwide.
I have been wondering if since I have Aztec indigenous blood in me from my Hispanic side, would I be counted as partly Chinese since native peoples from America came from Yunnan, China? (Referencing the scientific discoveries made by Chinese scientists about The Red Deer people). I am mixed with Hispanic origin included Aztec, French, Spanish, and Portuguese on my mom’s side and Irish, Austrian, and Czech on my dad’s side. I have always grown up more with a combo of Chinese and Korean culture since very young (my parents even raised me basically Asian) and I naturally practice and uphold my Asian culture so I am wondering if I can still be considered Asian descent and enough Asian to be connected to my ancient Chinese ancestry. Is this possible for me to be considered Chinese or Chinese descendant from Yunnan long ago? And I don’t want to offend anyone, I’ve just been also trying to understand myself and my cultural upbringing more. I also get confused a lot for my look since it’s so ambiguous and most people can’t quite place my ethnicity or think I am Asian. My mannerisms and ways of thinking are also very Asian and I was around Asians a lot growing up and welcomed a lot into Korean and Chinese circles. My mom would also be confused for Asian or Pacific Islander as well. And her Chinese and Vietnamese friends would tell her I looked like a ‘big eyed Asian’. I’m short and my skin is a mix of yellow and pinkish hue and I have dark brown hair and eyes. My eyes angle upwards but I have a double eyelid. I feel like perhaps other people have noticed my features and just assumed I’m Asian but mixed somehow. I’ve also been diving more into learning Mandarin so I can speak with my cousin’s wife’s family since they are from China.
COMES to INDIA anyone can be CHINESE... literally, if you have small eyes you are considered CHINESE in INDIA... We Honestly face racism in our own country... I am from NORTH EAST parts of INDIA...
identity is part future, part present, part past. The past is history, the present if lifestyle, the future is the potential possibility. As a elderly ABC 4Gen ... most of my life now is in the past - it's history ... what survived in the present, and what little remains is my future.
I think if you or your parents or grandparents all the way up still have chinese names, and you know most of your ancestors are Chinese, then you are Chinese ethnic. But some people like to think their ethnicity to the extreme. Like recently, someone who doesn’t live in china after watching a video of China's equipment said how proud she was to be a person with yellow blood 😅. And she doesn’t even speak chinese. But she lives in Indonesia that pretty much uni race. So she only sees the world as yellow, black & white. Obviously she thinks people with yellow/brown skin are more superior than other race. And she is an old nay2 that lived in 3rd world countries.
I say I am componets from China and Hong Kong. then assembled in Canada like an import panda bear. I identify as Chinese. then Canadian. as visually i am Han looking Chinese. and sound like Canadian born citizen. hahaha
Why can't we just rely on the one drop rule? If you have a traceable descendent who is Chinese, you are by definition, Chinese. Obviously there's certain caveats to this, like if you're one of those Elizabeth Warren types that tries to claim being Native American while having
If you clearly need something, have more then enough money to pay full price but will still wait for a deal/sale for the item then you have some Chinese in you to me lol
Would an Uzbek in China consider themself as Chinese? These two presenters are All Americans familiar with Chinese culture, if you ask me to describe them. Ask another American with big hands inclination, I would think these two fine men would be described as Pesci-like guests in America.
'Chinese" is the common identity for all of us in China nowadays, we really dont think that a person should be identified as Chinese as long as he/she is Han ethnicity, cause if you think deeply, that equals white supremacy in the US
Yes, a Uzbek in China would be Chinese. Chinese mainlanders see Chinese differently from Chinese-Americans. I'm an American who comes from the Miao ethnicity, and mainlanders see me as Chinese but not Americans.
@@jackvue722 I would beg to differ, they would acknowledge they are a Chinese citizen but of the Uzbek culture. I have a nice inuit friend who educated me about not using the word Eskimo. To me he is an American, his inuit family in Anchorage is American. He sure looks like a Far East Asian though. His sister wow, could have gone for AKB48 tryout back in the day. 😄 Chinamen would view the diaspora as those who left. Chinese is defined as time sensitive. Mine grew up in the Manchurian dynasty and left post war. Not quite Chinese to the modern day Chinamen. Walk like a duck, quack like a duck but survival modifications to source code makes us no longer a peaking duck. 😆 Thats why I did not apply for Green card and hit the road. Hasta la vista baby.
Our heritage is important because China invented the world and we're one of the few superpowers in the world throughout history. Unlike backwater shitholes like the Ukkk, Amerikkka.
Based on the most recent trend in China, Most PRC Chinese especially younger generation (who are born in the good/prime era of PRC) do not even want association with overseas Chinese.if you're familiar with the local youngster culture well enough, you would always see people on the internet advise and argue that "please do not call yourself Chinese, You're American/German ( wherever you're immigrated to), we identify by culture, not by genetics."
the whole argument is too han-centrism maybe start using a more accurate term 'Han" to define your ethnicity then everything will be much ....easier 😮💨
@@joekashikihansel4009 again, Just "Han" dont need to emphasize the term "Chinese", cause its an umbrella term for all ppl in China. U right, the Han is the result of assimilation since the Confucius. the most "classic" examples in history were the Xianbei and Sogdian: The northern nomadic Xianbei ppl who established the Northern Wei dynasty, its 7th Xiaowen Emperor Tuoba Hong （Later adopted a Han surame as Yuan Hong）implemented his policy of sinicization in 495 AD. Sogdian people originated in today's Samarkand, set foot in China since the Han dynasty served as merchants alongside the Silk Road , they are best known as the “Nine Surnames of Zhaowu" (Zhaowu: a region located in today's Gansu province) , the Nine Han surnames they adopted : 康Kang, 安An, 曹Cao, 石Shi, 米Mi, 何He, 火寻Huoxun, 戊地Mudi,史Shi and the most (in)famous Sogdian in chinese history -- (The) An Lushan (Rebellion)
@@tzenzhongguo I think he was referring those Tungus racial groups in China such as Ewenki, Oroqen, Hezhen ( as Nanai in Russia) , somehow the origin of Manchu people is debatable
People are so ignorant about China and Chinese, they think being Han Chinese is the only way of being Chinese. I come from a place there is Russian Chinese and White Chinese, people clearly do not understand what it means by saying 'being Chinese', it is a cultural thing rather than a genetic thing. Chinese identify by culture, not by blood :) Caucasian race in China who consider them as Chinese feel much closer culturally to any fellow Chinese person than with other non-Chinese foreign Caucasians. China is the size of the ENTIRE Europe Combined, you'd be surprised by how diverse its races are!!!!!!!! not everyone is from Guangdong and Fujian. Up in the North, there is many Caucasian Chinese too!!!!!!!!!
As someone who is half Chinese half white, I get asked my ethnicity very often. I used to say, "Chinese" but then people would poke me even more like, "Full? You don't look full." And then I'd have to explain myself. I just grew up with my white mom and don't know any Chinese, so I feel like a fraud saying I'm Chinese. But at the end of the day, I don't look white at all and will be treated as a minority regardless. Therefore I identify more with my Chinese side. But these days I just say I'm mixed and then change the subject. I think it's very important to talk about race, but I do think it's up to the individual on how they identify. My friend is half Chinese half white, but grew up in Japan. He considers himself Japanese, and I think that's totally valid.
Really? Dang. That is a superpower.@@heavenknowsimmiserablenow14
My kids are halfers...(that is not offensive or insulting here.) They are 1/2 CBC(Canadian born Chinese) & 1/2 Canadian Scot. They are mixed but, don't speak Chinese. They know a few words...but, were aware of Chinese traditions & the culture. There is a large Chinese community here & my Mom was always heavily involved in the Chinese community.
I'm half chinese or half taiwanese I don't know I speak mandarin I can't read it.
As a Chinese American, I have thought about this issue, pretty much my entire life. And as I get older, I do feel that I tend to lose more and more of what "makes me Chinese." I think the question, "Am I Chinese?" are really two different questions. First, the the genetic question, do your genes/roots go back to China?
But I think the real question on most Chinese Americans' minds is the cultural question, do you feel that you are culturally Chinese? This is a trickier question to answer. Yes, being able to speak/read/write Mandarin (or a local dialect) makes a person more convincingly "Chinese." And I also think that knowing cultural traditions, customs, history of China also help the argument of whether or not a person is Chinese. And on another level, being in touch with current day Chinese politics, current events, and pop culture would also make you more "Chinese."
Identity has always been difficult for me as someone who was adopted from China and grew up in a white American household. I think you can hold multiple identities, the whole idea of intersectionality is real y'all. I feel like as long as you have some genetic basis for being Chinese or any nationality and make some effort to learn about the language, history, culture, food, etc than you can feel proud to have some of that with you
no coming from a place there is Russian Chinese and White Chinese, you clearly do not understand what it means by saying 'being Chinese', it is a cultural thing rather than a genetic thing. Chinese identify by culture, not by blood :)
I’m an ABC and speak fluent Cantonese but can’t really read or write, but I still consider myself Chinese. ❤
Im an ABC who also speaks fluently Cantonese but I can read and write some Chinese characters. I absolutely consider myself Chinese 🇺🇸🇨🇳🇭🇰
As a hapa, the white boy voice works wonders against police officers. Outside of that I don’t act white or hang out with a lot of white people.
Mind you there is a difference between Chinese from mainland China and Chinese who were born and raised in other parts of the world. Nevertheless, overseas Chinese and Chinese from mainland do share the same language and similar cultural experiences (but this may varies from country to country). For instance HK Chinese, Singapore Chinese, Malaysian Chinese, Taiwanese, ABG, CBC, Indonesian Chinese, Thai and Filipino Chinese are all difference Chinese people. Each of this country has their own unique Chinese cultural experiences. And if you grew up in East Asia, chances that you might grew up with Asian cultural values and chances that you might be able to speak Chinese (good or fluently) is much higher than say Chinese who were born and raised in Western countries.
Totally agree.
There is a large difference between Northern Mainland Chinese and Southern Mainland Chinese. Fujian Chinese are more similar with Taiwanese than with Northern Chinese. Fujian Chinese are more similar with Southeast Asian Chinese than with other Mainlanders. Northwestern Chinese are different from Eastern Chinese. Manchurian Chinese are different from Southwestern Chinese.
Fung bros always have good content! As Daivd said at 18:55, "You have the control of your tent. It depends on you if you want to grow into a village or a town." That says a lot. Preferences among each other are different depending on how you grew up, where you grew up, who you grew up with, and what you grew up to know the facts. In America, social media made all yellow people identities to be one chinese or from China. All yellow people get picked on. Just because Chinese may be the majority of the Asian background in America, they seem to be targeted more, but not true. We all get picked on at point or the other either in school, streets, or at work. We learned to step up and play the game and fought back and spoke up about it. At the end of the day, we are one. Unity makes peace. Unfortunately, we can not change our identity, heritage, and culture, but you must know who you are deep inside. Perhaps I am Hmong. Due to long conflict years of conflicts in China for thousands of years, it did stained and ruined a lot of our elders histories just like the Nanjing Massacre, but 10 times more since Hmong resides in China for 5000 years. True Hmong blood will never be assimilated to be Han like other smaller ethnicities even after being slaughtered, raped, and eliminated, but there are still those last seeds that will still rebell to the end. Finally, at last, it's the first time in our Hmong history in China that we have not fought against anyone for over 80 years straight ever since the sleeping elephant was awakened, thanks to the Western colonizations. Without that, there would've been 56 countries in China or more. Unity is peace. Unity is prosperity. Unity makes love. There is a Hmong saying, "Hmong must love Hmong, because no one else will love Hmong. Fight to the end." Hmong were the indigenous people of China, and they are Chinese and 1 of the 56 ethnic groups who made the middle kingdom today, Zhongguo! Now it's up to you if you want to transform your tent into a village or a town, then a city and a country, or do you want to be just a lonely tent. Up to you. Sooner or later, we all will speak Mandarin. Even the indochina Hmong still has so much in common and uses the same phrases and words in Mandarin.
This is very insightful and hard hitting. I agree with all your recommendations. If we want a sustainable community, we have no choice but to do these things. I like to talk about Chinese culture and history with others, but there are other things I need to work on.
I may only be 25% chinese but I’m 100% cheap ass. My ancestors would be proud
😂..😂
Bro being cheap is being indian, chinese are smart buyers. Reasonably cheap, indians are just cheap for the fun of it.
As a Hmong-American with Chinese friends from different countries like China, Malaysia, and the US. The answer greatly depends on who you ask and where they're from. A Chinese-American will never see me as Chinese even if they're friends with or in a relationship with a Hmong person. Chinese-Malaysians don't even know we exist until meeting us and therefore wouldn't see me as Chinese. A Chinese mainlander will straight up tell me I'm Chinese even if it would offend me.
My time to respond. Yeah basically. Very few ABC know that Hmong people belong to the 5 largest ethnic group in China. Mainlanders on the other hand will at the very least acknowledge your history even if they don’t consider you a modern day Chinese.
@SouRi1Two3 A lot of mainlanders just became like Americans. They have the same mindset as then now days. Not all, but the majority. It is the society and era. No one wants to learn the history and its past conflicts. But then, to some of us, we must learn from the past to avoid it to repeat again.
you are not Miao ethnic in China, so you're not Chinese, but Miao people in China consider themselves as Chinese, much like in my region, white Chinese and Russian Chinese still consider ourselves as Chinese. But we wouldn't go out and say all Russians are Chinese. so long as you know the difference then claim whatever you are, as the ones in China, we only consider ourselves as Chinese. and we don't care how the overseas folks think, it's not of your business nor our business to tell the other otherwise :)
1. Chinese heritage. Got it.
2. Chinese language proficiency. Got it.
3. Chinese crowds. Got it.
4. Chinese foods. Got it.
5. Use of chopsticks. Got it.
6. Monkey king and chinese new year. Got it.
7. Order items on the Chinese menu in Chinese. Got it too. Even though I am semi-literate. LOL.
8. My parents. They can fit into the non-self-hating friends cuz they were born and raised in China and make contact with their relatives often, even giving gifts and money to them on return trips.
9. Nah. I just get treated as Asian. LOL
10. Chinese name, and able to write it in Chinese characters with the proper brushstroke order. Yep, got it.
If I am not Chinese, what else can I be? American? Well, I am American by nationality only.
But as I was born in China, I did have a Chinese passport to prove that I was a Chinese (PRC) citizen. Of course, it's void at this point because of my US citizenship/nationality.
So for me, it's easy for me to say that I am Chinese.
You guys should do a video on why do famous people like mma fighter Sean Strickland like to mention the word China in all of his interviews.
When you make up in the morning and think “I have to pee” in your mind, what language are you saying it in? That’s your answer😂
another great episode as also fung bros. love yalls fun commentary. take care
I got 5 on the list! Here in Japan (Chinese community here) and when I was in HK I often say ABC when they talk to me in Cantonese & Mandarin.
if you at the end of your life or when you're like 30 or 40 years old... you killing me Andrew LOL
My 1st encounter with people from Asia: "Are you Chinese?" Chinese from Asia asked me in the 1990s, in a tech company where I was the only female engineer, and only 2 white males in the whole engineering dept. I said "we are call Chinese Americans". They had never stop attacking me since; followed by South Asians, and people from Indo China as the Silicon Valley hired more and more people from Asia. I think a Chinese female programmer from Taiwan tried to warn me before she left the company.
They asked me "where are you from?" I said I grew up in NYC. They called me a liar😮💨 b/c they didn't know Chinese/Taishanese such as my ancestors have been in America since the 1800s.
They said "you said you go back to NYC every Xmas, so how long it takes to flight from SFO to NYC. I said " ~5 hrs and ~6 hrs". They said why 2 different times and called me a liar. I 🙄😮💨. These are engineers, shouldn't they know about the earth rotation and route difference? They also went around saying "she doesn't know anything" 😮💨
They asked me if I have a driver's license. I said I got mine in High School, like most American kids. They didn't believe high school kids could get a driver's license b/c in their homeland, high school kids couldn't, and called me a liar 😮💨.
On a company trip to Reno, they asked if I know how to ski. I said yes. They called me a liar 😮💨until they saw me skiing down the hill.
They surf porns during office hours and in groups openly. Most Americans knew this was illegal and shouldn't do so during office hours. It is as if watching one's parents in the act of conceived oneself and respectful toward one's mother who gave birth. Speaking of porn, Reddit used to have a site called Revenge Porn where most were photoshopped meant to ruin women's lives; particularly accomplished women. When Ellen Pao became CEO, she shut the site down and paid the price of being ousted.
In s Startup, an Indo-China Verification Director who took a week to debug a 4-line stimulation script, and his protégé, who didn't speak OR write English, nor write computer codes, followed me to the bathroom every time for months and came inside while I was doing my business. I was fired for complaining. Anyone complains is consider a trouble maker in the Silicon Valley/Tech. Suing such as done by Ellen Pao brought in retaliations by nearly the whole Silicon Valley and Tech. In her case, also millions of South Asian males. Am a former Scientist/EE adjunct Prof and was the only person could complete one of the most complex chip development project - emulation. Basically, the whole Silicon Valley/Tech industry are full of scums, pedophiles and invaders like these.
I was fired for talking too much by Toshiba's South Asian male management.
Dispute unprecedented accomplishments in theUSPTO, I was fired in a haste of 2 days when most took months to years. On my last day, their offsprings, one East American female and one Indo-China American male elbowed my chest/breast. They were both on a chopping block for years, and saved by a black Union Rep, who months before, elbowed my chest/breast. Someone, a middle age white male who also helped them from being terminated, saw that and may had complained for me. I was a probationary employee at the time, didn't want to be labeled as a trouble maker by complaining and fired.
I learned people from Asia and Chinese Americans just don't mix well😮💨.
Guess why the Silicon Valley decided to hire H1Bs from Asia beginning in the 1990s, who either don't or barely speak legible English and foreign looking; instead of Europeans, East Europeans, Russians or South Americans? White Silicon Valley males think all Asians are from Asia, and Asian American women engineers such as I with such outstanding performance is indicative of people in Asia, and that male engineers from Asia got to out performed Chinese American women engineers b/c they are males. 🤡💩🧠
Asian invaders reached critical mass in 2001 in SF Bay Area/Silicon Valley. As such, I was under physical harm and ra pe threats everywhere I went, and had to abscond from the Silicon Valley. Also under constant verbal harassments in Mandarin in NYC's Chinatown.
I’m Hmong. My mentor from Guangdong says that we are Chinese. Every Chinese person I’ve met online who learns what Hmong is says oh you’re Chinese. I don’t feel Chinese. My ancestors were from China. Our history is Chinese. A Hmong girl from Yunnan told me I might not be Chinese but I should fight anyone who denies my history as being of China. She was very passionate about it😂. I still don’t feel it. My parents feel Laotian. I don’t know how I feel like. American? Still feel like a perpetual foreigner though. iono… 🤷♂️
I'm also a Hmong, and my friend from Wuhan straight up said to me, "You're Chinese. I don't care if I offend you". I've had other Chinese mainlanders tell stories of when they came to the US and met Hmong-Americans, and they also told them they're Chinese. Unlike you I do see myself as Chinese. I think part of the reason is, how can I call myself Hmong if I deny my 5000 years of history in China and only associate with maybe 150 years of history in Laos. There are Chinese-American families who have lived in the US longer than my family has lived in Laos lol I guess this is why I don't really feel like a perpetual foreigner, because I know who I am and my identity.
@@jackvue722 oh I’m with you on the Laotian thing. My parents feel lao and when we were young their generation pushed that identity on us. We’ve only been there since the late 1800s. I don’t have any connection to what is basically a pit stop in history for my family. You’re also right about many generational ABC. There are families here who have been in america since before our ancestors left China. But I’m glade that you have a sense of who you are.
you are chinese if you hold a prc passport. Hainan can be different to people in sichuan but they all prc passport holders. Hawaii is different from Vermont all americans.
Also, taking pride in the advancements of the A4 Revolution could be a new aspect that fosters a sense of Chinese identity.
I’m Filipino with some Chinese ancestry, but that was so long ago in my family that I feel like an outsider amongst my Chinese friends. When my grandfather passed away, he briefly mentioned that we originally had a Chinese surname. So aside from that, Filipino culture influenced by Chinese culture & my personal research into Chinese history, I don’t have a strong connection. Still, it’s something I acknowledge.
Well I eat a lot using my chopsticks and my nickname at school was Chinese. I speak Chinese mandarin and a little of Cantonese, but once a Chinese girl on Instagram thought I was Chinese after I wrote in Chinese that I am Portuguese. I felt happy when happened, like I love Chinese culture since my childhood.
If writing in Chinese mandarin with my Taiwanese friends, eating with chopsticks Portuguese food, watching Chinese dramas without English subtitles, makes me considered Chinese, then I am happy with that. My Chinese name,I chose was in a list of auspicious Chinese names for the year of the horse and I wrote my Chinese name in traditional characters.
The answer to your question is that to be Chinese, one must hold Chinese legal personality. I am not Canadian; I possess Canadian legal personality. I am a human being residing on Earth, born in a territory controlled by the modern Roman Empire, which has granted me Canadian legal personality. This concept applies worldwide.
Can we all agree Keanu reeves is the most attractive half white half Chinese guy,,Kristin kreuk is also a beautiful half Chinese half white mix
Keanu is a quarter...
@@aaronmontgomery2055you're right 👍
I have been wondering if since I have Aztec indigenous blood in me from my Hispanic side, would I be counted as partly Chinese since native peoples from America came from Yunnan, China? (Referencing the scientific discoveries made by Chinese scientists about The Red Deer people). I am mixed with Hispanic origin included Aztec, French, Spanish, and Portuguese on my mom’s side and Irish, Austrian, and Czech on my dad’s side. I have always grown up more with a combo of Chinese and Korean culture since very young (my parents even raised me basically Asian) and I naturally practice and uphold my Asian culture so I am wondering if I can still be considered Asian descent and enough Asian to be connected to my ancient Chinese ancestry. Is this possible for me to be considered Chinese or Chinese descendant from Yunnan long ago? And I don’t want to offend anyone, I’ve just been also trying to understand myself and my cultural upbringing more. I also get confused a lot for my look since it’s so ambiguous and most people can’t quite place my ethnicity or think I am Asian. My mannerisms and ways of thinking are also very Asian and I was around Asians a lot growing up and welcomed a lot into Korean and Chinese circles. My mom would also be confused for Asian or Pacific Islander as well. And her Chinese and Vietnamese friends would tell her I looked like a ‘big eyed Asian’. I’m short and my skin is a mix of yellow and pinkish hue and I have dark brown hair and eyes. My eyes angle upwards but I have a double eyelid. I feel like perhaps other people have noticed my features and just assumed I’m Asian but mixed somehow. I’ve also been diving more into learning Mandarin so I can speak with my cousin’s wife’s family since they are from China.
COMES to INDIA anyone can be CHINESE... literally, if you have small eyes you are considered CHINESE in INDIA... We Honestly face racism in our own country...
I am from NORTH EAST parts of INDIA...
I’m Japanese American and scored a 5 on Andrew’s test.
My great grandmother is half Chinese and half British and the rest is Japanese!
Good list.
1:42 That's actually deep it is a nationality like any other nationality.
identity is part future, part present, part past. The past is history, the present if lifestyle, the future is the potential possibility. As a elderly ABC 4Gen ... most of my life now is in the past - it's history ... what survived in the present, and what little remains is my future.
You have to love condor heroes to be Chinese
Lol
Ayy 9/10 on Andrew's Chinese scale (people think I'm Filipino 😂)
I think if you or your parents or grandparents all the way up still have chinese names, and you know most of your ancestors are Chinese, then you are Chinese ethnic. But some people like to think their ethnicity to the extreme. Like recently, someone who doesn’t live in china after watching a video of China's equipment said how proud she was to be a person with yellow blood 😅. And she doesn’t even speak chinese. But she lives in Indonesia that pretty much uni race. So she only sees the world as yellow, black & white. Obviously she thinks people with yellow/brown skin are more superior than other race. And she is an old nay2 that lived in 3rd world countries.
I say I am componets from China and Hong Kong. then assembled in Canada like an import panda bear. I identify as Chinese. then Canadian. as visually i am Han looking Chinese. and sound like Canadian born citizen. hahaha
Why can't we just rely on the one drop rule? If you have a traceable descendent who is Chinese, you are by definition, Chinese. Obviously there's certain caveats to this, like if you're one of those Elizabeth Warren types that tries to claim being Native American while having
As an American Born Chinese 😅
If you clearly need something, have more then enough money to pay full price but will still wait for a deal/sale for the item then you have some Chinese in you to me lol
0:26 Both of those first two cases Should be considered chinese I think
There is only one Han Chinese, as long as you have a Han surname.
18:21 Man what is david talking about?
Most Chinese have very pale skin.
0:11 Does david always have to use that accent l o l ?
9:15 That would carry a lot of weight.
You can call yourself Chinese as long as you identify as Chinese.
I watch dragon ball z therefore I am asian
Would an Uzbek in China consider themself as Chinese?
These two presenters are All Americans familiar with Chinese culture, if you ask me to describe them.
Ask another American with big hands inclination, I would think these two fine men would be described as Pesci-like guests in America.
'Chinese" is the common identity for all of us in China nowadays, we really dont think that a person should be identified as Chinese as long as he/she is Han ethnicity, cause if you think deeply, that equals white supremacy in the US
Yes, a Uzbek in China would be Chinese. Chinese mainlanders see Chinese differently from Chinese-Americans. I'm an American who comes from the Miao ethnicity, and mainlanders see me as Chinese but not Americans.
@@jackvue722 Nahhhhh you are American, we see people by their passports, you are an American citizen then you are American
@@jackvue722 I would beg to differ, they would acknowledge they are a Chinese citizen but of the Uzbek culture. I have a nice inuit friend who educated me about not using the word Eskimo. To me he is an American, his inuit family in Anchorage is American. He sure looks like a Far East Asian though. His sister wow, could have gone for AKB48 tryout back in the day. 😄
Chinamen would view the diaspora as those who left.
Chinese is defined as time sensitive.
Mine grew up in the Manchurian dynasty and left post war. Not quite Chinese to the modern day Chinamen. Walk like a duck, quack like a duck but survival modifications to source code makes us no longer a peaking duck.
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Thats why I did not apply for Green card and hit the road.
Hasta la vista baby.
@@to04buk 😄
The term Chinese is reserve for only mainland nationals. We are overseas Chinese 华人. Not 中国人. Hkers and Taiwanese call themselves hua ren
Chinese food 10/10 for sure， what are they talking about
i think chinese are too focused on heritage. try forging your own path.
Our heritage is important because China invented the world and we're one of the few superpowers in the world throughout history. Unlike backwater shitholes like the Ukkk, Amerikkka.
Based on the most recent trend in China, Most PRC Chinese especially younger generation (who are born in the good/prime era of PRC) do not even want association with overseas Chinese.if you're familiar with the local youngster culture well enough, you would always see people on the internet advise and argue that "please do not call yourself Chinese, You're American/German ( wherever you're immigrated to), we identify by culture, not by genetics."
the whole argument is too han-centrism
maybe start using a more accurate term 'Han" to define your ethnicity then everything will be much ....easier 😮💨
han is fake , xiongnu mongolian/siberian became northern han chinese , bai yue vietnam became southern han chinese
@@joekashikihansel4009 again, Just "Han" dont need to emphasize the term "Chinese", cause its an umbrella term for all ppl in China.
U right, the Han is the result of assimilation since the Confucius.
the most "classic" examples in history were the Xianbei and Sogdian:
The northern nomadic Xianbei ppl who established the Northern Wei dynasty, its 7th Xiaowen Emperor Tuoba Hong （Later adopted a Han surame as Yuan Hong）implemented his policy of sinicization in 495 AD.
Sogdian people originated in today's Samarkand, set foot in China since the Han dynasty served as merchants alongside the Silk Road , they are best known as the “Nine Surnames of Zhaowu" (Zhaowu: a region located in today's Gansu province) , the Nine Han surnames they adopted : 康Kang, 安An, 曹Cao, 石Shi, 米Mi, 何He, 火寻Huoxun, 戊地Mudi,史Shi and the most (in)famous Sogdian in chinese history -- (The) An Lushan (Rebellion)
@@joekashikihansel4009Yakut/Saha (native Siberian) people are northern Chinese too? 😂🤣
@@tzenzhongguo I think he was referring those Tungus racial groups in China such as Ewenki, Oroqen, Hezhen ( as Nanai in Russia) , somehow the origin of Manchu people is debatable
@@tzenzhongguo i said xiongnu , thats mongol tribe inhabited near mongolian manchurian grassland not far north like yakuts
People are so ignorant about China and Chinese, they think being Han Chinese is the only way of being Chinese. I come from a place there is Russian Chinese and White Chinese, people clearly do not understand what it means by saying 'being Chinese', it is a cultural thing rather than a genetic thing. Chinese identify by culture, not by blood :) Caucasian race in China who consider them as Chinese feel much closer culturally to any fellow Chinese person than with other non-Chinese foreign Caucasians. China is the size of the ENTIRE Europe Combined, you'd be surprised by how diverse its races are!!!!!!!! not everyone is from Guangdong and Fujian. Up in the North, there is many Caucasian Chinese too!!!!!!!!!