I'm a trucker and last winter I laid down on the ground in just a t-shirt (no jacket) and had to adjust a mount under my truck. It took about 10 minutes and my one side got super cold and numb. My skin went red and harder. A week later the color was back to normal and my love handle on that side was much smaller and tighter. Lmao!! Free ice sculpting. 👍
Make your own ice packs using the large size zip lock zipper bags 4 cups of water and 1 cup of 91% rubbing alcohol. This combination keeps the ice from completely freezing making it flexible, that way you can form it to fit certain body parts. Worked very well for me.
This explains why my left knee has noticeably less fat around it than my right!! I ice my left knee several times a week due to a bad knee! So yes it works!!
Do you have knee problems due to inflammatory processes? If that is the case I highly recommend curcumin extract with piperin. I used to play handball for a long time when I was younger which really wore down my knees hence I was suffering from inflammation and pain in my knees especially my left knee. I started taking curcumin for a while and it got significantly better. To be more precisely it got so much better that not only the inflammation snd the pain in my knees is gone, I furthermore had outstandingly good values regarding inflammation markers when my doc took a blood sample recently. It takes a while until the effects kick in but then they are really profound. You should really look it up!
2 1/2 weeks ago, started at 46" , now down to 43". Starting to feel more energetic, been doing it for at least 1 hour a day.Almost came close to paying for Coolsculpting, I bought the weight belt for $5 at Wal Mart & 5 ice packs for $3 a piece at Big Lots. Glad did my research before spending big bucks.
Roy, Actually, during the time I used the method, my diet was pretty good where I ate mostly vegetables. I also engaged in intermittant fasting almost every day. When I fast, I can lose quite a bit of fat, it's just that I lose fat in other areas I won't want to lose it from. I'm actually a pretty thin guy. I was just hoping to target the fat loss in some areas. I heard someone suggest that people who don't have a lot of body fat might not benefit from the method, as they don't have enough fat in the fat cells to freeze and ultimately destroy the respective cell. They suggested it might be more effective for the person to actually gain weight and then use the method.
Hi Jonny, I'm not sure if you're comment is directed at me. If it was, it doesn't appear as though you read everything I wrote. Here is part of what I wrote in one of my comments: "Actually, during the time I used the method, my diet was pretty good where I ate mostly vegetables. I also engaged in intermittant fasting almost every day. When I fast, I can lose quite a bit of fat, it's just that I lose fat in other areas I won't want to lose it from. I'm actually a pretty thin guy. I was just hoping to target the fat loss in some areas…" In addition, I also work out around 5-6 days a week. As I'm sure you're aware, cutting back on calories and exercising a lot may help a person lose fat, but it will not target fat loss. For example, if a man just wants to lose some fat around his gut and not his legs, eating less and doing cardio is not really going to give him the results he wants as the fat will tend to come off both his legs and gut. You seem to dismiss the method of using icepacks but it seems people have actually had results using bags of ice to help with losing fat. Please see this link if you're looking for evidence: fellrnr.com/wiki/CoolSculpting Note the section: "15.5 Results of DIY CoolSculpting" and see some evidence of this man's DIY experiment.
I had CoolSculpting plus I’m a nurse. You need to massage the area for a few minutes, it forms crystals in the cell, the cell wall is damaged by twisting motions. I use my hands to twist and contort the skin for maximum effect. It’s all about this not only the freezing, imagine if you did it right!!
But, bro, I swear, I am being as diligent as possible for like 2 weeks straight, then that was about 2 weeks ago now, and, I don't drink or eat "Crap", per say. I do eat actually a lot of pasta and eggs, because I don't eat meat right now. I'm super thin, like 130 lbs probably. And the under the chin fat will NOT go down doing this Like, I drink coffee and tea also, except for exactly one week of the month |I do not have coffee because my body has indicated by reaction to me not to, therefore not worth it. So my point is I do take breaks from coffee and or am able to be disaplined when necessary, for something I want I take lots of vitamin B, Omega oil capsules, (when I remember), multi vitamins on and off, but I mean, I rotate things, so as not to bother wasting them because supposedly you will just pee them out anyway if your body already has enough of that. Why waste the product if that is the case So, while I have been a little bit busy, and I haven't gotten it written down, to do it PERFECTLY, I STIll think with at least the effort I am putting it, which is WAY more than some people, obviously no where near as some others, probably, but I'm just saying i feel like I should at least something for the mini ice pack I strapped to my underside /turkey neck poof should be showing some kind of response, but I swear to God, it looks like absolutely no different, everyone is saying it only takes three weeks, so I feel discouraged because I am (quick:) ) but, not an overweight, or seriously out of shape person Sweet tooth and all, even though I have not been as diligent about working out consistently as I have in the past lately Why do you think the ice under the chin does not seem to be doing anything for me? Any advice is welcome, while I'm waiting for my tax return so I can get radio frequency treatment (#legitsick of it).
In the 1960’s I believe it was doctors and scientists discovered the “cryo freezing technique” through the studies of people pulled from avalanches. They reportedly lost extreme amounts of weight after rescue. Eventually volunteers (mostly new mothers wanting to loose the baby weight) let doctors and scientist practice the cryosculpting on them. I just wish it would have been shared with the US decades ago! Great video. The cool sculpting at home WORKS!!! Take his advice!!! He’s on to something great here.
Great video! I got the ice vest which has the packs that come with it. Once you put the packs in the vest compartments, you just throw the whole vest in the freezer and take it out and put in on when your ready! So easy! I love it! It works!! Using it an hour or 2 a day has made a huge difference in my body fat!!
me too--definitely easy to do with velcro closure belt and gel packs--I'm sure it is easier with paid cool sculpting but this is not hard and works fairly well.
+getfitover40 yes . well after you take your hot shower as I mentioned in my comment above you can turn it to cold water and do your final RINSE hehehe
do you know that even a simple McDonald big mac meal will increase your fat content in your blood up to 60%. Have u ever seen what fatty soup(ie. bone soup) does when u fridge it? yea, it gets jelly up. Imagine your blood in your arteries get jelly up wherever u put that ice on your body part.
I’ve been doing it for a week and it definitely works I lost inches off my waist my chest I lost Fatty cells a little more confident no working out start it with 30 minutes of to an hour right now I’m working on my chin
It actually works, I've done it before and now doing it again as I type this up. And yes please use a cloth or something to protect your skin from burns.
I am a 66yo triathlete and use regular ice packs. Not only for weight loss but there are many other benefits like circulation. I use packs daily and it makes a big difference for performance.
Thank you. It is obvious that you truly care about others. Thanks for taking the risk to share what you believe will help others. I also believe this information is helpful.
Thanks for the information! Brown fat is brown because it has more blood vessels connected to it. white fat cells have fewer blood vessels and are less accessible. Yes, drinking cold water helps. Also more water will produce more brown fat and less white fat. It works because without enough water, the body has a mechanism to shut down blood vessels when water is low. This is to keep blood pressure stable. With fewer blood vessels, brown fat cells (which need more blood supply) disappear. Drink more water to increase brown fat and decrease white fat.
Interesting video. Also take a look at the sauna culture in Northern Europe. Sorry to see the sceptimism. For the guys saying cold showers are so bad.... Take a look at the sauna culture in Northern Europe. Hot sauna, then cool off and ice cold shower or ice bath... Repeat many times in one session. Works good there
I started this back in the winter and actually lost 3 inches in my waist before my business got busy and I forgot to keep it up. I just started doing it again.
I've been icing my sides every night for over a month now for 60min with 2 extra Large soft ice packs and strapping them with a sweat belt around my waste and under my chin too while I watch TV lasting on the coach. FYI- my ice packs have a protective fabric. I'm excited to start seeing results can't wait! Thanks for the in depth info! Hard to find this info confirming what I've learned and putting 2 and 2 together. I learned first about cool sculpting them I thought why can't I do this at home myself and researched it. And I already knew shivering and drinking ice water and ice burns calories. Cold Burns fat!
Before watching this video, I took a large ice pack and put it on my stomach for about 15 minutes because I was feeling extremely bloated and it is humid out, and I am starting a new job today! I was honestly shocked that after doing that my bloating and “feeling fat” went away! I am going to start doing this every day now! 🙏🥳😀
Yes that will for sure work but I read about a fellow that did both methods, ice baths 4 days per week and then he compared putting ice packs on the upper traps 4 days per week and he was able to get around 60% of the same results as he did from Ice baths. Still significant and a lot easier to do on a regular basis.
Dude, the whole process takes 2 months to complete... fat cells die and then the body slowly removes it. It’s not possible to see results so drastic in just two weeks.
I did this at home...with ice packs and saran wrap. I swear to you it works. You need to do a LOT of research and you need to be careful but it CAN WORK. You also need to map well. If not you have uneven areas. Skin needs to be protected... But it TRULY WORKS.
I used Ice & a thin cloth. I held It to the area. 5 min. It works! After use a fascia- blaster or a hand massager to move the fat around . Do this at lest 3 times a week. You flush out fat faster way faster !
Interesting presentation. As an engineer, I see a problem with what you are doing. Ice and water together are a constant temperature process at 32 deg F. You should try a mixture of ice and water maybe 1/3 water and 2/3 ice. This will give you a 32 degree constant temperature with very little risk of freezing or frost bite. Worth considering.
Additionally, you can kill fat with ultrasound. It literally bursts the fat cell and is flush out through your lymph nodes. There are places that do this too.
yes, it's very interesting! also different frequencies are good for different things. i believe ultrasonic cavitation only empties the fat cells, but i've heard both. it probably does do a bit of both.
It works for sure, I got a slushee from the gas station and It was resting up against my hip and I could feel it was cold and the next day my hip felt tighter and less fatty compared to the other one
I had an eating disorder as a teen , from trying to get rid of the inner thigh, handful of fat that is hereditary. No matter how fit I get, I can still grab a softball size. I HATE IT. So fast forward to me at 56 , still fit but I'm gonna freeze my thighs while I work. Your video is the only one I could find that had good info and great comments to support the concept . Thank you all!!! Wish me luck and I'll follow up in october .
I don't like the icepacks that get warm really fast, I use them on my stomach but you have to use something between your skin and the icepack, I leave them over an hour I normally diet and exercise since a long time ago but I have places in my body that accumulates a little bit of fat since I started I lost one inch on my waist and keep it off for over a month my skin is smoother and the fat looks firm and not cellulite like, I kind of feel when I'm getting fat and yes you get fat on new places the fat has to go somewhere else but it seems to be working so far slowly.
I have only done this a few times and would say I feel it has reduce some of my under chin fat, I plan use this method some more to see if I can get even better results when the weather warms up a bit where I live. Still snowing outside today :(
Hey Loveless - ok, I thought the packs only had to stay on for like 30mins. Because believe me, by then, they are officially warm (therefore, " useless") at that point. Si I will try to google it, but if you also can recommend where to get a cost effective ice pack, or brand of, that will last for that long of a time (an hour) Cause, clearly, i have to pour it on harder to see a change, under my chin, so it cannot be a huge one, so. Thank you for letting me know if you can when you can. :)
Towel Warmers work great about 60$ US. A microwave with a humid towel (not wet, previously rung out placed inside a bowl, also tends to work, but there's a lot of running around, not with a towel warmer. A Crock Pot, is much cheaper about 10$ to 20$..get a large one, pack a good 5 to 10 towels larger size about 11 by 24 inches...place them in there with a steam tray so they dont' touch water. Like steaming vegetables. Shake them out first, then apply.
I jus so happed to stumble across this video looking for cold sculpting results. I'm definitely gonna give this a try on my off day tomorrow. I'll post my results. My target areas for now are under my chin and my mommy belly. Imma due an update in about 14 days jus to share my results. Thank u for sharing this information. This was definitely helpful. ( today is Wed Sept 15th 2021).
For anyone who's interested, I swam in a very cold swimming pool one day recently (because the pool heating wasn't working and I HAD to have the swim), and, knowing nothing about any of this at the time, lost a pound and felt a definite difference in my middle the next day. And that was just one day, one half hour. A friend's trainer swims the English Channel every couple of years and gets ready by wearing no coat in winter and taking only cold showers. And he sheds fat.
I bought some gel packs and an ab belt to try this. Since you say it takes a few months, I figured winter time would be a perfect time to try it out! I'm also joining a gym so double whammy. Thanks for video!
One extra thing, we (humans) have brown fat mainly concentrated on our upper body, neck, back, and back part of arms so is a good idea to apply ice packs there and/or take cold showers and focusing on those areas. The brown fat is the one it helps us burn more fat, so it has been observed from studies that lean people have a higher concentration of brown fat. I tried it before and I can say that it has good results in a short period of time! I started to use packs again, I stopped because is a time-consuming process and didn't have time before, but in combination with a healthy lifestyle it can offer you good results!
This is awesome. I just ordered a device on Amazon. Cool Sculpting at the dr's office is pricey especially doing multiple treatments so when you can buy a device and do it yourself, makes it great for me. :) You look awesome, great tips!
Just a note he missed. When you do the Cold Water in the Morning. Start out Slow. You will get Brain Freeze if you don't. Most of us drink Coffee or eat Warm stuff in the morning. Stop with the Hot stuff. Start with Just below Room temp for a few day & work your way up to Slushes. I love Slushes, as a Kid I loved them and when I got smarter I learned in the Summer when it is HOT ( I live in Texas) I could Drink Shushes & by the time I finished on I was actually feeling Cold. Slushes will quickly lower the Bodies Temperature & kick start your Bodies burning processes. Like a Power Drink in the Morning? Turn it into a Power Slushy. :-) Blinders are your Friend. Stop buying the Little Bullet mixers Get a Full size add Ice & you get the Same Drink with Cold Effects to boot.
I live in Canada...I don't need cold showers and ice packs to get cold. I just go out without a sweater. I'm actually not joking...I'm in ketosis and intermittent fasting, so when it's, say, 11 degrees celcius (51.8 F), I'll wear a t-shirt. I adjust to it quickly now and feel my body warm me up from the inside so I don't need a cover. I think the white fat just turned into beige...but I use bentonite clay and activated charcoal to rid myself of any toxins. (I'm careful TO hydrate, but no, not too much which would wash out all the electrolytes from my body...1.5 L...yikes!)
im starting to do this, eating lofat and or sugar fat foods, exercising, drinking lots of water, not eating any snacks or meat, not eating till after 6:30, dieting, and being really active! i hope to reach my goals and wish everyone else who wants to reach there goals good luck! ill have the update in about a month or 2! wish me luck!
It works, but please please please always have something as a barrier between the ice and your skin, whether it's a shirt or some cloth, and check to make sure you're not getting frostbite regularly. I say this because I messed up initially and got a frost blister, so now I always have a shirt on under the pack, and check every 5~ mins by pinching the skin.... I noticed if pinch and the skin has color and springs back normally, I'm good, if I pinch and it stays creased and pale ... it was frost burn. Best of luck!
love the video. Gave thumbs up! new subscriber. and I wash my body in cold water sometimes. even after I was in the warm water. sometimes I pour ice cold water on my face every day or night once a day. it's great and keep you looking young and refresh. I make sure it's cold AF. lol. and It gives more energy believe it or not. Thanks for the Tip!
so has anyone come back with thdir results? I had a back injuury and was laying on ice DAILY few times a day. I used to have a FLAT lower back no gap when layingon floor....eventually noticed a curve happening (from fat going away in that area) but I just NOW put that reality together. I'm gonna start using ice pacos AGAIN on my back fat area that hangs over my bra
I have only done this a few times and would say I feel it has reduce some of my under chin fat, I still have some but plan use this method some more to see if I can get even better results.
I tried this for the first time and the pack around my waist was so freezing cold I literally could not bear it for more than 5 mins. It was a struggle to last that long. So I stopped and plan to do 5 min increments until I reach 30 mins/day.
Jeremy Feit one guy suggested doing an ice bath after a workout followed up with a warm shower and alternating the ice bath with a warm shower for 30 minutes.
Hi guys! I HATE being cold but I bit the bullet anyway. I guess I’m tougher than I thought because I left the ice packs on until they became just cool. ‼️I think you can do it! I held the packs in place with my neoprene waist trimmer belt. I felt uncomfortable, but having a muffin top does too! 😄
you should try smaller sections at a time. also, put oil on your skin where you do it, and the ice should be in plastic, with a layer or cloth between your skin and the ice pack.
Cool sculpting is the same thing even though they’ll tell you it’s not the same after a few years of research and self testing I’ve done “professional” cool sculpting and at home. Same results. It is important to know how to do it properly. It’s important to drink lots of water throughout the day
@@theanonymoushelpline7248 drink plenty of water and use a towel and place in the area you want for no longer than 20mins at a time or if you start to feel uncomfortable. And it’ll be good to monitor your temperature in that area
Does anyone have any opinions or knowledge about the effectiveness of ice baths to yield the same results? I didn't realize that fat had a higher freezing point until i watched this video, which makes a lot of sense as to why this would work
Kjell Crooke fat has lower freezing point. The idea of having your fat freeze below your skin before your actual skin freezes I think would be difficult whole body. I'd be worried about extremities getting frostbite, especially you know where. However it's good for recovery.
Kjell Crooke I just watched a video where someone was alternating an ice bath with a hot tub for 30 minutes he said he went through both about three times in that 30 minute period
Hi guys I've been using two ice blocks straight now on my face and under my chin for 3 weeks and great results my fat is gone and my face is slim 3-5 times a week try it.
Your explanation of this coolsculpting just tied up my understanding of this.... I had the idea that ice-packs could be substituted for the clinic process and the question, 'What happens to the fat cells?' was answered. Serving in the US Marine Corps was very physically demanding, no regrets, but since leaving physical work-outs are difficult to comeby due to the civilian paced life; where work-outs and such was the job & lifestyle. Great tips!! Definitely will give it a go!!
Also drink cold water a lot, takes more body energy to process it. Similar to eating celery. It requires more energy to digest it than it has in calories.
You should just go for the "lifestyle lift", gives the chin area a good lift in an out- patient procedure that you can do during a lunch hour break...seen some nice results in people who've had this done...
I do this I do put a ziplock bag full of ice on my stomach for a hour and then I massage it. I only use fresh ice never put the bag in the freezer it's working.. NEVER use a ice pack because it sticks to my skin and i got a skin burn, UNLESS YOU PUT SOMETHING OVER YOUR SKIN FIRST
I'm going to start as I have a skinny fat pot belly. Let me know if u want me to keep posting my results. I have 3 ice packs I bought and a waist trainer belt to hold it all close to my stomach
it's way cheaper to get Lipo if you're really fat because you'd have to pay for mlre then 5 -10 sessions. So imo from having done it I was put to sleep, wore a girdle for 2 months solid accept whwn I showered and have now lost over 50 lbs.
No one tells people after coolsculpting your nerves hurt like hell for several months .I had it done on my arms and my upper back . the pain while freezing was none but the pain following omg horrible pain for several months
I started using my cold therapy machine that the hospital gave me after surgery. Just add ice and water and The attachment is like cryo instead of an ice pack. It gets SUPER cold and you only need to do it 2-3 x's a day for 20 mins.
I think heat works faster, cause I have IBS, and I always put a heating pad on my abdomen when I have attacks. These attacks last sometimes up to two weeks or longer. I noticed that when I was applying the heat 3 or 4 times a day for about 20 minutes, that my belly fat would disappear. If you can't stand ice on your belly, you might want to try the heat.
I'm a trucker and last winter I laid down on the ground in just a t-shirt (no jacket) and had to adjust a mount under my truck. It took about 10 minutes and my one side got super cold and numb. My skin went red and harder. A week later the color was back to normal and my love handle on that side was much smaller and tighter. Lmao!! Free ice sculpting. 👍
Lol. That's funny.
That's what great about real men. They just handle it ... you dont need a comfort zone or therapy dog
haha, omg. well, great!
Lol 😆awesome!
Did it stay smaller?
Make your own ice packs using the large size zip lock zipper bags 4 cups of water and 1 cup of 91% rubbing alcohol. This combination keeps the ice from completely freezing making it flexible, that way you can form it to fit certain body parts. Worked very well for me.
Thank you!
But how can it stay freezing cold for 60 minutes?
@@GuidetteExpert you make a lot of them and when one starts to heat up you swap it out.
How long did you keep the ice pack on?
Excellent idea!
This explains why my left knee has noticeably less fat around it than my right!! I ice my left knee several times a week due to a bad knee! So yes it works!!
Lisa Lynn very interesting
Do you have knee problems due to inflammatory processes? If that is the case I highly recommend curcumin extract with piperin. I used to play handball for a long time when I was younger which really wore down my knees hence I was suffering from inflammation and pain in my knees especially my left knee. I started taking curcumin for a while and it got significantly better. To be more precisely it got so much better that not only the inflammation snd the pain in my knees is gone, I furthermore had outstandingly good values regarding inflammation markers when my doc took a blood sample recently. It takes a while until the effects kick in but then they are really profound. You should really look it up!
That is, oddly enough, part of how they discovered the effect (similar, it was kids sucking on popsicles got dimples. Really!)
Mumba Mumba I recommend eliminating carbs for inflammation. Night and day.
I have fat knees and lower legs! I'm going to ice the hell out of them!
2 1/2 weeks ago, started at 46" , now down to 43". Starting to feel more energetic, been doing it for at least 1 hour a day.Almost came close to paying for Coolsculpting, I bought the weight belt for $5 at Wal Mart & 5 ice packs for $3 a piece at Big Lots.
Glad did my research before spending big bucks.
Glad you are getting sucek great results!
Notice it's going down slowly, been more energetic.
JaguerRhye I'm guessing either the method doesn't work or perhaps it's a diet issue?
Roy,
Actually, during the time I used the method, my diet was pretty good where I ate mostly vegetables. I also engaged in intermittant fasting almost every day. When I fast, I can lose quite a bit of fat, it's just that I lose fat in other areas I won't want to lose it from. I'm actually a pretty thin guy. I was just hoping to target the fat loss in some areas. I heard someone suggest that people who don't have a lot of body fat might not benefit from the method, as they don't have enough fat in the fat cells to freeze and ultimately destroy the respective cell. They suggested it might be more effective for the person to actually gain weight and then use the method.
Hi Jonny, I'm not sure if you're comment is directed at me. If it was, it doesn't appear as though you read everything I wrote. Here is part of what I wrote in one of my comments:
"Actually, during the time I used the method, my diet was pretty good where I ate mostly vegetables. I also engaged in intermittant fasting almost every day. When I fast, I can lose quite a bit of fat, it's just that I lose fat in other areas I won't want to lose it from. I'm actually a pretty thin guy. I was just hoping to target the fat loss in some areas…"
In addition, I also work out around 5-6 days a week.
As I'm sure you're aware, cutting back on calories and exercising a lot may help a person lose fat, but it will not target fat loss. For example, if a man just wants to lose some fat around his gut and not his legs, eating less and doing cardio is not really going to give him the results he wants as the fat will tend to come off both his legs and gut.
You seem to dismiss the method of using icepacks but it seems people have actually had results using bags of ice to help with losing fat. Please see this link if you're looking for evidence: fellrnr.com/wiki/CoolSculpting
Note the section: "15.5 Results of DIY CoolSculpting" and see some evidence of this man's DIY experiment.
I had CoolSculpting plus I’m a nurse. You need to massage the area for a few minutes, it forms crystals in the cell, the cell wall is damaged by twisting motions. I use my hands to twist and contort the skin for maximum effect. It’s all about this not only the freezing, imagine if you did it right!!
Thanks for the great tips!
massage before or after cooling?
@@orgnl After
@@chen8465 ummm i think we understand what she meant. Too bad you didn’t
@@chazchillings3019 No need for the dig is there.
I started at 50 years old, now I'm 18, THANKS!
If you try this don't forget to drink at least 2,5 Liters a day, so that your body can get rid of that death fatcells🙂
Always good to drink lots to flush the body :)
Thanks Lili Angelina- I forgot - good point:)
But, bro, I swear, I am being as diligent as possible for like 2 weeks straight, then that was about 2 weeks ago now, and, I don't drink or eat "Crap", per say.
I do eat actually a lot of pasta and eggs, because I don't eat meat right now. I'm super thin, like 130 lbs probably. And the under the chin fat will NOT go down doing this
Like, I drink coffee and tea also, except for exactly one week of the month |I do not have coffee because my body has indicated by reaction to me not to, therefore not worth it. So my point is I do take breaks from coffee and or am able to be disaplined when necessary, for something I want
I take lots of vitamin B, Omega oil capsules, (when I remember), multi vitamins on and off, but I mean, I rotate things, so as not to bother wasting them because supposedly you will just pee them out anyway if your body already has enough of that. Why waste the product if that is the case
So, while I have been a little bit busy, and I haven't gotten it written down, to do it PERFECTLY, I STIll think with at least the effort I am putting it, which is WAY more than some people, obviously no where near as some others, probably, but I'm just saying
i feel like I should at least something for the mini ice pack I strapped to my underside /turkey neck poof should be showing some kind of response, but I swear to God, it looks like absolutely no different,
everyone is saying it only takes three weeks, so I feel discouraged because I am (quick:) ) but, not an overweight, or seriously out of shape person Sweet tooth and all, even though I have not been as diligent about working out consistently as I have in the past lately
Why do you think the ice under the chin does not seem to be doing anything for me?
Any advice is welcome, while I'm waiting for my tax return so I can get radio frequency treatment (#legitsick of it).
Keep in mind the effects of using the ice packs can take up to two months so two week sis not really enough time to know if it is working for you.
Okay /fellow Canuck!! :]. Right, I did forget -
thank you for reminding me!!!
In the 1960’s I believe it was doctors and scientists discovered the “cryo freezing technique” through the studies of people pulled from avalanches. They reportedly lost extreme amounts of weight after rescue. Eventually volunteers (mostly new mothers wanting to loose the baby weight) let doctors and scientist practice the cryosculpting on them. I just wish it would have been shared with the US decades ago! Great video. The cool sculpting at home WORKS!!! Take his advice!!! He’s on to something great here.
If it's shared they would not make money 🤑. Thanks for free info like this
How many times a week can it be done please respond
giving birth is a much better way of loosing the baby weight
Buff Tom Hanks says it works. So im in.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah but did it work?
Lol
Omgosh! He does look like him!
Great video! I got the ice vest which has the packs that come with it. Once you put the packs in the vest compartments, you just throw the whole vest in the freezer and take it out and put in on when your ready! So easy! I love it! It works!! Using it an hour or 2 a day has made a huge difference in my body fat!!
Thanks for sharing your experience with us!
Wendy Johnson thank u I will look for this
Wendy, where did you get the vest from? website please?
Wendy, that's really great. Thanks for sharing and good luck!
me too--definitely easy to do with velcro closure belt and gel packs--I'm sure it is easier with paid cool sculpting but this is not hard and works fairly well.
I used frozen peas on my upper arms. Lost 3 cm . It is working.
•Drink cold water in the am
•Drink at least 2.5 liters of water
•Do cool sculpting with frozen packs around 4 times a week
Great video, Mike! I've had only ice-cold showers daily for 6+ years now and I can assure you, fat reduction is just one of their many benefits!
Yes, I suppose an ice cold shower would do the trick, problem is I enjoy hot showers so much and I am not a big fan of cold water.
+getfitover40 yes . well after you take your hot shower as I mentioned in my comment above you can turn it to cold water and do your final RINSE hehehe
even in the winter?
keniarosemary Especially in the winter
do you know that even a simple McDonald big mac meal will increase your fat content in your blood up to 60%. Have u ever seen what fatty soup(ie. bone soup) does when u fridge it? yea, it gets jelly up. Imagine your blood in your arteries get jelly up wherever u put that ice on your body part.
I’ve been doing it for a week and it definitely works I lost inches off my waist my chest I lost Fatty cells a little more confident no working out start it with 30 minutes of to an hour right now I’m working on my chin
Great...please keep us updated.
What did you use exactly?
What were your final results?
What were your results?
I found this out by accident I was sore from doing excercises. I put a frozen bottle on my stomach to help and I was shocked.
A bottle cana work too?
I fill my (hot water bottle) with cold water or call it warmer and freeze it
It actually works, I've done it before and now doing it again as I type this up. And yes please use a cloth or something to protect your skin from burns.
Do we have any restriction like before eating or after eating?
I am a 66yo triathlete and use regular ice packs. Not only for weight loss but there are many other benefits like circulation. I use packs daily and it makes a big difference for performance.
Thank you. It is obvious that you truly care about others. Thanks for taking the risk to share what you believe will help others. I also believe this information is helpful.
I was told by an old person that if you freeze Dawn liquid soap it turns into a great ice pack.
Who knew
Freezer packs around middle every 2 months for 1 hour. 2 years later 30 pounds less. Now going after the last of the fat for a few more sessions.
Awesome Results 👍👏👏!!?
Thanks for posting your experience with this.
Did u do a diet and exercise along with it?
Thanks for the information! Brown fat is brown because it has more blood vessels connected to it. white fat cells have fewer blood vessels and are less accessible. Yes, drinking cold water helps. Also more water will produce more brown fat and less white fat. It works because without enough water, the body has a mechanism to shut down blood vessels when water is low. This is to keep blood pressure stable. With fewer blood vessels, brown fat cells (which need more blood supply) disappear. Drink more water to increase brown fat and decrease white fat.
Brown fat is brown due to the density of mitochondria, where as white fat has less. That’s why brown fat is more readily used.
they sell ice packs and pretty good ones at dollar tree believe it or not.
Albert Rent I've never seen them. Thanks. I will look for them next time
Albert Rent yes they do I have one
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Close the fridge mom, I'm coolscupting in here!
Maniak5100 lol
Maniak5100 this deserves all the likes 🤣😂🤣
yessss meee
I literally LOL
Hahahaha defitnetly. I had that in mind. 😂
Interesting video. Also take a look at the sauna culture in Northern Europe. Sorry to see the sceptimism. For the guys saying cold showers are so bad.... Take a look at the sauna culture in Northern Europe. Hot sauna, then cool off and ice cold shower or ice bath... Repeat many times in one session. Works good there
I started this back in the winter and actually lost 3 inches in my waist before my business got busy and I forgot to keep it up. I just started doing it again.
3 inches that's impressive!
@@getfitover40 can you tell me which ice
Finally someone who gives great wisdom. Thanks bro I'm 41 and it's all bout biology on our bodies. 👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed the video! I'm always interested in learning about how our bodies work and react to different things :)
very informative, thank u very much:]
i'm all excited, learning about the fat cells converting, lol!
I've been icing my sides every night for over a month now for 60min with 2 extra Large soft ice packs and strapping them with a sweat belt around my waste and under my chin too while I watch TV lasting on the coach. FYI- my ice packs have a protective fabric. I'm excited to start seeing results can't wait! Thanks for the in depth info! Hard to find this info confirming what I've learned and putting 2 and 2 together. I learned first about cool sculpting them I thought why can't I do this at home myself and researched it. And I already knew shivering and drinking ice water and ice burns calories. Cold Burns fat!
How is it so far?
Krista Zurawski update please!
Update please ????
Update
Is it working?Please update!
Before watching this video, I took a large ice pack and put it on my stomach for about 15 minutes because I was feeling extremely bloated and it is humid out, and I am starting a new job today!
I was honestly shocked that after doing that my bloating and “feeling fat” went away! I am going to start doing this every day now! 🙏🥳😀
Thanks for sharing!
Have you tried a 30 minute ice bath? Works great!
Thermokenetics was used on Daniel Craig to help develop his lean physique for his James Bond roles.
Yes that will for sure work but I read about a fellow that did both methods, ice baths 4 days per week and then he compared putting ice packs on the upper traps 4 days per week and he was able to get around 60% of the same results as he did from Ice baths. Still significant and a lot easier to do on a regular basis.
Thanks! Far more palatable than an ice bath IMHO...
30 minute ice baths sound like a recipe for hypothermia. I don't think I could even get in that water.
I hear you, not for me either :)
getfitover40 cold showers work great 😆
It does work.. I went from 199 to 183 in 2 weeks. The jeans I was wearing was size 36 and they were tight. Now a size 33 is starting to get loose...
Dude, the whole process takes 2 months to complete... fat cells die and then the body slowly removes it. It’s not possible to see results so drastic in just two weeks.
I will be doing this for my waist and chin
I did this at home...with ice packs and saran wrap. I swear to you it works.
You need to do a LOT of research and you need to be careful but it CAN WORK.
You also need to map well. If not you have uneven areas.
Skin needs to be protected...
But it TRULY WORKS.
Do you think I could do it on my fat pads/under eye bags?!
I use water filled Ziploc bags. But I make sure to have on a thin shirt to lay the bags on. Never had a problem.
Except they leak! I've had better luck with mashed potatoes. Weird yes, but they freeze well and don't leak out.
@@laree82 mashed potatoes! ha!! i might try that! the ziplocks work, but yeah, they usually end up leaking.
I used Ice & a thin cloth. I held It to the area. 5 min. It works! After use a fascia- blaster or a hand massager to move the fat around . Do this at lest 3 times a week. You flush out fat faster way faster !
Interesting presentation. As an engineer, I see a problem with what you are doing. Ice and water together are a constant temperature process at 32 deg F. You should try a mixture of ice and water maybe 1/3 water and 2/3 ice. This will give you a 32 degree constant temperature with very little risk of freezing or frost bite. Worth considering.
Thanks for the info, that makes sense!
George Wallot The more it is hard ice the better results..need to make this with a back and ir neck support Good idea.
Thanks George! I got mild frostbite the first time I did this.
K. Tnx
I'm going to try this with ice-cold canned (light?) beer!
Additionally, you can kill fat with ultrasound. It literally bursts the fat cell and is flush out through your lymph nodes. There are places that do this too.
Thanks for sharing the information regarding Ultrasound 😊!
yes, it's very interesting! also different frequencies are good for different things. i believe ultrasonic cavitation only empties the fat cells, but i've heard both. it probably does do a bit of both.
oh also, did you try it? i'm thinking to.
Drinking cold water in the morning causes more harm than good, it is better to keep the issue "freezing yourself" only external.
It works for sure, I got a slushee from the gas station and It was resting up against my hip and I could feel it was cold and the next day my hip felt tighter and less fatty compared to the other one
I had an eating disorder as a teen , from trying to get rid of the inner thigh, handful of fat that is hereditary. No matter how fit I get, I can still grab a softball size. I HATE IT.
So fast forward to me at 56 , still fit but I'm gonna freeze my thighs while I work.
Your video is the only one I could find that had good info and great comments to support the concept . Thank you all!!! Wish me luck and I'll follow up in october .
How did it go??
@@laurenschweitzer6176 she gained 249. Lbs
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Buff, Tom Hanks-Guy: “There’s some dangers involved”
Me: “Let’s do this!!”
Thank you so much for taking time out to make this video! I appreciate it
I don't like the icepacks that get warm really fast, I use them on my stomach but you have to use something between your skin and the icepack, I leave them over an hour I normally diet and exercise since a long time ago but I have places in my body that accumulates a little bit of fat since I started I lost one inch on my waist and keep it off for over a month my skin is smoother and the fat looks firm and not cellulite like, I kind of feel when I'm getting fat and yes you get fat on new places the fat has to go somewhere else but it seems to be working so far slowly.
Thanks for sharing your experiences with us!
getfitover40 hey did you see any results with the ice packs ?
I have only done this a few times and would say I feel it has reduce some of my under chin fat, I plan use this method some more to see if I can get even better results when the weather warms up a bit where I live. Still snowing outside today :(
getfitover40 thanks will try asap
Hey Loveless - ok, I thought the packs only had to stay on for like 30mins. Because believe me, by then, they are officially warm (therefore, " useless") at that point.
Si I will try to google it, but if you also can recommend where to get a cost effective ice pack, or brand of, that will last for that long of a time (an hour)
Cause, clearly, i have to pour it on harder to see a change, under my chin, so it cannot be a huge one, so. Thank you for letting me know if you can when you can. :)
Towel Warmers work great about 60$ US. A microwave with a humid towel (not wet, previously rung out placed inside a bowl, also tends to work, but there's a lot of running around, not with a towel warmer. A Crock Pot, is much cheaper about 10$ to 20$..get a large one, pack a good 5 to 10 towels larger size about 11 by 24 inches...place them in there with a steam tray so they dont' touch water. Like steaming vegetables. Shake them out first, then apply.
I jus so happed to stumble across this video looking for cold sculpting results. I'm definitely gonna give this a try on my off day tomorrow. I'll post my results. My target areas for now are under my chin and my mommy belly. Imma due an update in about 14 days jus to share my results. Thank u for sharing this information. This was definitely helpful. ( today is Wed Sept 15th 2021).
Please share!!
update please
For anyone who's interested, I swam in a very cold swimming pool one day recently (because the pool heating wasn't working and I HAD to have the swim), and, knowing nothing about any of this at the time, lost a pound and felt a definite difference in my middle the next day. And that was just one day, one half hour. A friend's trainer swims the English Channel every couple of years and gets ready by wearing no coat in winter and taking only cold showers. And he sheds fat.
Keeping your body warm in cold temperatures burns calories for sure, no doubt about that fact.
OMG I need a cold pool lol
St.Joanna p9
*goes get a pool puts 10 gallons of ice, and sits in the pool for 24 hours
Some people do that.
When I use to fight mma my trainer had me take ice baths
Thank you very much for this information. I’ve been on the thin side all my life. I’m in my upper 60s and no longer thin.
Thank you RUclips for speed settings !
my grandad was a bodybuilder in the 90s he always did this with ice packs my grandad was ripped
I bought some gel packs and an ab belt to try this. Since you say it takes a few months, I figured winter time would be a perfect time to try it out! I'm also joining a gym so double whammy. Thanks for video!
Hi Debbie, you're did it go?
@@todoskeirnan don’t think I stuck with it long enough. Maybe time to try again! No change.
One extra thing, we (humans) have brown fat mainly concentrated on our upper body, neck, back, and back part of arms so is a good idea to apply ice packs there and/or take cold showers and focusing on those areas. The brown fat is the one it helps us burn more fat, so it has been observed from studies that lean people have a higher concentration of brown fat. I tried it before and I can say that it has good results in a short period of time! I started to use packs again, I stopped because is a time-consuming process and didn't have time before, but in combination with a healthy lifestyle it can offer you good results!
επιτελους μια ελληνιδα! χαχα!
Do you have an update for this video?
Yesss, do you?
This is awesome. I just ordered a device on Amazon. Cool Sculpting at the dr's office is pricey especially doing multiple treatments so when you can buy a device and do it yourself, makes it great for me. :) You look awesome, great tips!
Cali Girl what did you order
I searched Amazon.com with the words: Cool Sculpting and several options popped up. I'm researching now.
Did it work for you?
Update?
UPDATE???
Am a fat ass .. bout to jump into the North Pole 😂😂🤔
Chico Sickofshit if you die in pole then fishes will be happy to get some fatty food
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Chico Sickofshit 😂😂
Chico Sickofshit lol
Chico Sickofshit LMAO
I have done cool sculpting so i know what to look out for i will start this today and report back🤙🏻
Just a note he missed. When you do the Cold Water in the Morning. Start out Slow. You will get Brain Freeze if you don't. Most of us drink Coffee or eat Warm stuff in the morning.
Stop with the Hot stuff. Start with Just below Room temp for a few day & work your way up to Slushes. I love Slushes, as a Kid I loved them and when I got smarter I learned in the Summer when it is HOT ( I live in Texas) I could Drink Shushes & by the time I finished on I was actually feeling Cold.
Slushes will quickly lower the Bodies Temperature & kick start your Bodies burning processes.
Like a Power Drink in the Morning? Turn it into a Power Slushy. :-)
Blinders are your Friend. Stop buying the Little Bullet mixers Get a Full size add Ice & you get the Same Drink with Cold Effects to boot.
I live in Canada...I don't need cold showers and ice packs to get cold. I just go out without a sweater. I'm actually not joking...I'm in ketosis and intermittent fasting, so when it's, say, 11 degrees celcius (51.8 F), I'll wear a t-shirt. I adjust to it quickly now and feel my body warm me up from the inside so I don't need a cover. I think the white fat just turned into beige...but I use bentonite clay and activated charcoal to rid myself of any toxins. (I'm careful TO hydrate, but no, not too much which would wash out all the electrolytes from my body...1.5 L...yikes!)
im starting to do this, eating lofat and or sugar fat foods, exercising, drinking lots of water, not eating any snacks or meat, not eating till after 6:30, dieting, and being really active! i hope to reach my goals and wish everyone else who wants to reach there goals good luck! ill have the update in about a month or 2! wish me luck!
GOOD LUCK!!!!CYOU CAN DO IT!!!!!
BlueFire Arts results?
BlueFire Arts - good luck
It works, but please please please always have something as a barrier between the ice and your skin, whether it's a shirt or some cloth, and check to make sure you're not getting frostbite regularly. I say this because I messed up initially and got a frost blister, so now I always have a shirt on under the pack, and check every 5~ mins by pinching the skin.... I noticed if pinch and the skin has color and springs back normally, I'm good, if I pinch and it stays creased and pale ... it was frost burn. Best of luck!
Good diversion video. My wife has been thinking about Cool Sculpting for a while.
love the video. Gave thumbs up! new subscriber. and I wash my body in cold water sometimes. even after I was in the warm water. sometimes I pour ice cold water on my face every day or night once a day. it's great and keep you looking young and refresh. I make sure it's cold AF. lol. and It gives more energy believe it or not. Thanks for the Tip!
Now I know what to do with the ice packs that came with my Godiva chocolate package that was shipped to me...😂
so has anyone come back with thdir results? I had a back injuury and was laying on ice DAILY few times a day. I used to have a FLAT lower back no gap when layingon floor....eventually noticed a curve happening (from fat going away in that area) but I just NOW put that reality together. I'm gonna start using ice pacos AGAIN on my back fat area that hangs over my bra
I have only done this a few times and would say I feel it has reduce some of my under chin fat, I still have some but plan use this method some more to see if I can get even better results.
Mz Lola just curious how well this worked for you. Thanks!
@@getfitover40 What kind of ice packs did you use for your chin?
@@getfitover40 did you ever do a follow up video with your results?
@@elliefunt972 No I did not, it was winter time and I just didn't feel like placing something cold on me at the time ;)
Sorry, I'm poor. So I'm waiting until winter to go sit my fat butt out in the first snow bank that I can form. 😜😂
Jo Ann Priepke girl fill some bags with ice lol! No money needed!
Lol
Jo Ann Priepke omg so funny 😂😂me too
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Lol!😂🤣😂🤣
I tried this for the first time and the pack around my waist was so freezing cold I literally could not bear it for more than 5 mins. It was a struggle to last that long. So I stopped and plan to do 5 min increments until I reach 30 mins/day.
Jeremy Feit one guy suggested doing an ice bath after a workout followed up with a warm shower and alternating the ice bath with a warm shower for 30 minutes.
You're not putting it directly on your skin are you? It works with a t shirt layer between you and the ice pack.
Hi guys! I HATE being cold but I bit the bullet anyway. I guess I’m tougher than I thought because I left the ice packs on until they became just cool. ‼️I think you can do it! I held the packs in place with my neoprene waist trimmer belt. I felt uncomfortable, but having a muffin top does too! 😄
you should try smaller sections at a time. also, put oil on your skin where you do it, and the ice should be in plastic, with a layer or cloth between your skin and the ice pack.
@@alic6419 good for you! how did it work out?
Lmao I was just icing my knees as I do warehouse military style bootcamps and just stuck the ice pack on chin
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Cool sculpting is the same thing even though they’ll tell you it’s not the same after a few years of research and self testing I’ve done “professional” cool sculpting and at home. Same results. It is important to know how to do it properly. It’s important to drink lots of water throughout the day
How do I do it properly? I have the gel packs.
@@theanonymoushelpline7248 drink plenty of water and use a towel and place in the area you want for no longer than 20mins at a time or if you start to feel uncomfortable. And it’ll be good to monitor your temperature in that area
Does anyone have any opinions or knowledge about the effectiveness of ice baths to yield the same results? I didn't realize that fat had a higher freezing point until i watched this video, which makes a lot of sense as to why this would work
Kjell Crooke fat has lower freezing point. The idea of having your fat freeze below your skin before your actual skin freezes I think would be difficult whole body. I'd be worried about extremities getting frostbite, especially you know where. However it's good for recovery.
Kjell Crooke I just watched a video where someone was alternating an ice bath with a hot tub for 30 minutes he said he went through both about three times in that 30 minute period
I would look up cold thermogenesis as it relates to brown adipose fat cells prior to doing this
Hi guys I've been using two ice blocks straight now on my face and under my chin for 3 weeks and great results my fat is gone and my face is slim 3-5 times a week try it.
How long did you keep the ice under the chin each time?
yes, it's awesome! and @Dan, you should try it. i do an hour at a time, every other day, until you feel like you're done.
Your explanation of this coolsculpting just tied up my understanding of this....
I had the idea that ice-packs could be substituted for the clinic process and
the question, 'What happens to the fat cells?' was answered.
Serving in the US Marine Corps was very physically demanding, no regrets, but
since leaving physical work-outs are difficult to comeby due to the civilian paced
life; where work-outs and such was the job & lifestyle. Great tips!!
Definitely will give it a go!!
Awesome information I knew not about.👍🏼 Thank You for Your time.🌻 God Bless.
It works for me, but again at your own risk people!
Very informative and straight to the point. I love it!
This is like exercising out in the cold. Your body burns more fat and cals. I'm trying some of these. Thanks.
i have great results using ice gel packs. No problem with my skin. 👊👍
I have been using the ice gel packs, they shape along with your body.
So does using gel ice packs actually help or work
How cold do you have to cool the area down to? Also for how long?
where did you get those from??
Chris71319 plz tell me what did you use and do exactly.
I started doing it today. I hope that works 🙏, I'm also walking 7km every day. My belly really bothers me.
Walking is awesome, so good for you in so many ways! Best of luck!
Thaina Bezerra what is your update on it?
Also drink cold water a lot, takes more body energy to process it. Similar to eating celery. It requires more energy to digest it than it has in calories.
You should just go for the "lifestyle lift", gives the chin area a good lift in an out- patient procedure that you can do during a lunch hour break...seen some nice results in people who've had this done...
I do this I do put a ziplock bag full of ice on my stomach for a hour and then I massage it. I only use fresh ice never put the bag in the freezer it's working.. NEVER use a ice pack because it sticks to my skin and i got a skin burn, UNLESS YOU PUT SOMETHING OVER YOUR SKIN FIRST
How often do you use it? And for how much time per session?
I tried this, it worked for me!
Hey there could you tell me more please
I'm going to start as I have a skinny fat pot belly. Let me know if u want me to keep posting my results. I have 3 ice packs I bought and a waist trainer belt to hold it all close to my stomach
Please do...
@@getfitover40 btw would you say it worked for you and what was your routine? Was daily abit too intense for you?
So where’s the follow up video🤔🤔🤔
Did it work on your chin?
The problem with this method is being consistent, I didn't do it nearly enough to get good results.
it's way cheaper to get Lipo if you're really fat because you'd have to pay for mlre then 5 -10 sessions. So imo from having done it I was put to sleep, wore a girdle for 2 months solid accept whwn I showered and have now lost over 50 lbs.
J Roy how much
Coolsculpting isn't for fat people anyways it's for stubborn fatty areas
No one tells people after coolsculpting your nerves hurt like hell for several months .I had it done on my arms and my upper back . the pain while freezing was none but the pain following omg horrible pain for several months
Thank you, I was just about to pay for cold sculpting sessions.I will try the DIY first. Thanks.
Zender 2016 C Hi, did it work?
Did it work?
Thank you I'll try it. I hope my stubborn belly fat go away.
I started using my cold therapy machine that the hospital gave me after surgery. Just add ice and water and The attachment is like cryo instead of an ice pack. It gets SUPER cold and you only need to do it 2-3 x's a day for 20 mins.
Wim Hoff and ice baths are awesome, too.
I started two days ago .
Put an ice pack on for 30 mins in morning & night. In a bit of pain .
Is the pain normal ?
Are you putting it directly on your skin? Don't. It works wearing a t shirt between you and the ice pack.
I'm not an expert, but I would say so. When I did cool sculpting, I was in pain for at least a week afterward...
I think heat works faster, cause I have IBS, and I always put a heating pad on my abdomen when I have attacks. These attacks last sometimes up to two weeks or longer. I noticed that when I was applying the heat 3 or 4 times a day for about 20 minutes, that my belly fat would disappear. If you can't stand ice on your belly, you might want to try the heat.
It works!!!! I have photo proof but i cant share on here...
I have lost 7 inches around the waist with no exercise.. but you believe whatever you want to that's fine be me.
carbie2barbie yesssss
it literally kills fat cells lololol. sounds premanent unless you gain a lot of weight afterwards. might affect ur metabolism though.
Can you send it to me ? Or did you post a picture any where?
Well?... Did you do it? And did it reduce the fat under your chin?
I’m going to try a bag of frozen peas on my fat chin. More pliable.
this was vert informative, i had not heard about his before, great vid as usual bud
Thanks, glad you liked it and it was kind of new to me too!
Dude, you have no idea what love handles really are! Lol!
A system like "isavera" does better ofr both brown fat and fat freezing. We've had decent results with it and it saved us quite a bit of money.
Did you get results for the chin area?
Wondering if wearing short shorts and walking outside in 9-10 °C with cold waves gonna work...then i might try that this winter 😅