It always comforts me to remember God will not leave me abandoned without a defense if I am courageous enough to share the gospel: “for I will give you [skillful] words and wisdom which none of your opponents will be able to resist or refute.” Luke 21:15
If you pray for God to send you opportunities to share the gospel, He delivers. Always remember, the Father is the only one who can draw people to Him by the Spirit and Christ is the only one who can deliver them-were just here to plant and water seeds. “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him [giving him the desire to come to Me]; and I will raise him up [from the dead] on the last day.” John 6:44
I can't change even if I wanted to or even if I tried to this is how I'm going to be😉 because I judge you no man nor do I judge myself he who judges me is the Lord; for in that while I was a sinner in my mind and without Strength In Due Time; God reconciled me through the death and resurrection of his son Jesus Christ by Grace I am a partaker of the divine nature of Christ Jesus to this end having escaped the corruption that is in this world through lust having been received the love of the truth past tense confessing through my mouth in abundance of justification of Grace through righteousness in Holiness life eternal buy one Jesus Christ....." for as the body is one and have many members and all of its members of that body being many are one body in Christ Jesus; for if Christ Jesus be in me the body is dead because of sin; nevertheless I live yet not I but Christ liveth in me and the life that I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God who died and gave his life for me; If any man be in Christ he is a new creation old things have passed away; blessed is the man who has part in the First death but in the second death such has no power but they shall be Kings and Priests hand of life and of the kingdom of God such be as in the first
Starting to expound how heathens hold the truth in unrighteousness, Saint Paul as if confronted an objection: in order to convince someone that he holds the truth in unrighteousness, one must prove that he has known it, but how could heathens have known the truth if they did not have revelation? For this reason Paul emphasizes the statement that heathens knew what they needed to know about God and His will. God revealed it to them by His own way. What can be known about God, what is accessible in Him to the human mind and comprehension, that is “manifest in them”, revealed among them, in their circles, or - in themselves - within them, within their hearts. “...manifest” is like whatever is before one’s eyes. When something is before one’s eyes it is irrefutably visible as long as the eye is open. In such a way God is beheld by the soul. The fleshly eye can be closed, but the spiritual one cannot: it watches ceaselessly. Such is the soul’s knowledge that there is God, that He created everything and contains everything and that one must do His will as it is pronounced by conscience. “The knowledge of Himself God placed in men from the beginning” (Saint John Chrysostom). It therefore means: “for God has showed it unto them”. -- Theophan the Recluse.
1. How does Jeff know that God hasn't fooled him into thinking he's certain about things that are false? 2. How does Jeff receive and trust Biblical revelation without first presupposing his own existence as well as the reliability of his cognitive faculties?
Chad Ellis by inviting people to google hangouts ▪you are presupposing your faculties exist and are cogent in and of themselves, but how can you know?!--you know because you presuppose that your presuspose some force be it by design had to codify vis a design element. --how do you then know with a seemed certainty that jeff could believe falsely
The word in Romans 1:18 is not "suppress" but "hold". It is κατέχω Do not use those corrupt translations, only KJV is true word of God for English speaking people.
A MAN named Paul said that everyone knows that Yahweh is real, that he exists, suppress the truth. Really...so a MAN named Paul wrote something, and whatever he said must be true? When Paul was practicing Judaism, he was bat shit crazy. So he becomes a Christian. Do you really think his mental health was any better?
Dill Doe You say MAN as if its not credible. That arguement always kills me. As if you would believe scripture if God signed the bottom of it "God". And yes Paul is one of the most respected writers on both sides of the isle. His literature in and of itself is brillant regardless if you're an athiest or christian. Read it sometime.
You can believe that material man came from fish and that spiritual man was added/combined later and it will be completely consistent with Christianity. Both material man and spiritual man were created by God. If God made creation in 6 days he can certainly figure out how to make spiritual man from fish.
The act of murder is rampant in the Bible. In much of the Bible, especially the Old Testament, there are laws that command that people be killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay, cursing your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. In addition to these crazy and immoral laws, there are plenty of examples of God’s irrationality by his direct killing of many people for reasons that defy any rational explanation such as killing children who make fun of bald people, and the killing of a man who tried to keep the ark of God from falling during transport. There are also countless examples of mass murders commanded by God, including the murder of women, infants, and children.
Hannibal Lecter it's always amazing how religious people waste there whole life's by putting so much of themselves in to it. This guy clearly believes but I don't think he realises how arrogant he sounds claiming that his religion is the only real religion. Using the word objective and evidence. Reading something and believing doesn't make any of it real. A loving caring God would not say whoever is not with me is against me. Jesus is not Lord over my life and I for one am glad.
Jason Kehoe the point I'm making is that religion has a habit of saying how beautiful and good the work of there God is, it is not for me to say what I believe what a loving God would do, that would imply that I believe in a God I however come from a place of having no reason to believe in something based on faith, faith is not a tangible thing that leads to any kind of proof. to claim you have evidence based on faith and a book with some outlandish stories in it not proof of anything. the world is full of wonder beauty and terrible things and no God is required. the beauty of atheism is that I could be wrong and there maybe a God but until I have a reason to believe then why would I. because I have to or I'll burn in hell for not beleaving. this is just not good enough. the God you praise is all and everything and he requires our love so badly that if we don't give it to him he crys and stamps his feet. sounds to me like God needs to grow up.
@solidskirk That moment when a lump of clay starts whining at it's Maker to "grow up". The Potter said, "My ways are not your ways....", yet you feel the need to judge your Creator by human standards (yours lol), and anthropomorphize His eternal justice into 'crying and stamping feet'. I understand the attraction of your own nutty ~belief system~ ("the world is full of wonder beauty and terrible things and no God is required"); good, solid observation, followed by non-sequitur 'conclusion'. God ~is~ required, as creation's complexity and the inter-relationships and symbiosi between it's components defy Evolutionism's 'aeons of happy accidents' by many, many decimal places. Your 'god-less' Alternate Explanation for our world cannot even account for the premise you claim: if everything has just 'come about of it's own accord', then such concepts as 'wonder, beauty, and terrible things' have no meaning (you can't even explain why your food tastes good, let alone explain aesthetic Beauty, or make moral attributions such as 'wonderful', or 'terrible'). God, and the moral compunction that derives from the theistic 'Good/Evil Paradigm' are necessary for there to even be such things as wonder, beauty, good.....and evil. If there's NO purpose to human life, and no accounting for your existence, thoughts, and deeds, then there's no such thing as 'beauty', good, evil, 'terrible things', et al, and NO repercussions for ANYTHING we do to ourselves, or one another. That lack of any reckoning for one's miserably self-absorbed life is, actually, the Big Attraction of the Atheist/Materialist world-view (and is codified as, ' "Do what thou wilt" shall be the whole of the Law')....however, it denies it's adherents the ability to explain or engage such non-accidental, non 'evolutionary'concepts as beauty, generosity, 'good' or 'evil', the persuasive language of music, etc etc. I start laughing at the unintended irony when Atheists bring up concepts such as these, since their own dogmatic world-view DOESN'T ALLOW THEM. If you believe these concepts DO hold any meaning, then Atheism may not be for you, after all.......
hippiekarl7 now that's some bullshit right there, here's 10 reasons not to believe, enjoy. 10- You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of your god. 9- You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from lesser life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt 8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Trinity god 7- Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" -- including women, children, and trees! 6- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky. 5- You are willing to spend your life looking for little loop-holes in the scientifically established age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by pre-historic tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations old. 4- You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -- will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet you consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving". 3- While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to prove Christianity. 2- You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God. 1- You actually know a lot less than many Atheists and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history -- but still call yourself a Christian
@@PunkEvangelist Durbin explains in this video that God, Jesus and the supernatural are factually and objectively true. He think he’s 100% right. So actually, he’s way more fundamentalist than a militant atheist.
@@123rockfan Laws of logic, math, non-contradiction, induction and morality are by definition supernatural. Since they don't happen naturally, meaning that they exist whether we do or not, You cannot go out and find logic in nature. from a materialistic big bang worldview you could not have any of these things existing
@@PunkEvangelist it’s funny how religious people conflate atheism with the Big Bang. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand. What we’re discussing is whether there’s evidence for a supernatural all knowing deity that created the universe. And there’s simply no evidence, besides apologetic nonsense that bastardizes real science. Big bang is also a theory with a lot of strong compelling evidence. But it’s impossible to actually say if the theory is 100% factual.
If Yahweh, the deity of the Bible, is real, the only thing He has made apparent to everyone is that there must be some explanation for the origin of our universe and some of our behaviors should be avoided because they have negative consequences. I'm sorry, but this knowledge is not sufficient to know that Yahweh is the explanation for the origin of our universe.
It sounds like you missed a portion of this video. Here's the thing though. You will never ever be able to prove God's existence with empirical data. The natural world we live demands a scientific reason for everything, and there is, except when science turns to God, and says "I rule over you". The problem with the scientific method is that it uses current data to explain a scenario. Man cannot prove a metaphysical existence with physical means, it doesn't make sense. How can man prove something that man cannot understand? The word "eternity" is the fathomable definition of what eternity is like, and yet, no man has experienced eternity while living, no man can understand eternity. The point I'm attempting to make is that you and I could argue about certain things regarding this subject all day, but at the end of the conversation, I, nor Jeff Durbin, nor Van Til, nor Greg Bahnsen can do anything to change your heart. That requires the Holy Spirit. In fact the only reason why I decided to comment is just plead you to read Psalms 14.1.
There are numerous verses a couple of them are: Matthew 28.19, John 10.30, 2 Corinthians 13.14. The fact you use "Yahweh" is interesting. That makes me think you're either very politically correct, or some other form of Christianity? I'm a Free Reformed Christian, so I use these terms for correctness sake. The doctrine of the Trinity is a very very tricky one though, not one I am qualified to answer.
taejun kim Aside from the things I think Yahweh made apparent to us, what else do you think "God" made apparent to us that clearly points to Yahweh as the deity which created everything?
How I wish I had encountered this when I lived in Phoenix. Praise God He has raised up a branch of His body in this area! God bless this work.
It always comforts me to remember God will not leave me abandoned without a defense if I am courageous enough to share the gospel:
“for I will give you [skillful] words and wisdom which none of your opponents will be able to resist or refute.”
Luke 21:15
If you pray for God to send you opportunities to share the gospel, He delivers. Always remember, the Father is the only one who can draw people to Him by the Spirit and Christ is the only one who can deliver them-were just here to plant and water seeds.
“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him [giving him the desire to come to Me]; and I will raise him up [from the dead] on the last day.”
John 6:44
Good job Jeff. I love your videos. It seems we have the same views on pretty much everything.
wow so awesome
I have a question for Brother Jeff if possible
I can't change even if I wanted to or even if I tried to this is how I'm going to be😉
because I judge you no man nor do I judge myself he who judges me is the Lord; for in that while I was a sinner in my mind and without Strength In Due Time; God reconciled me through the death and resurrection of his son Jesus Christ by Grace I am a partaker of the divine nature of Christ Jesus to this end having escaped the corruption that is in this world through lust having been received the love of the truth past tense confessing through my mouth in abundance of justification of Grace through righteousness in Holiness life eternal buy one Jesus Christ....." for as the body is one and have many members and all of its members of that body being many are one body in Christ Jesus; for if Christ Jesus be in me the body is dead because of sin; nevertheless I live yet not I but Christ liveth in me and the life that I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God who died and gave his life for me; If any man be in Christ he is a new creation old things have passed away; blessed is the man who has part in the First death but in the second death such has no power but they shall be Kings and Priests hand of life and of the kingdom of God such be as in the first
Search the scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life.
Starting to expound how heathens hold the truth in unrighteousness, Saint Paul as if confronted an objection: in order to convince someone that he holds the truth in unrighteousness, one must prove that he has known it, but how could heathens have known the truth if they did not have revelation? For this reason Paul emphasizes the statement that heathens knew what they needed to know about God and His will. God revealed it to them by His own way. What can be known about God, what is accessible in Him to the human mind and comprehension, that is “manifest in them”, revealed among them, in their circles, or - in themselves - within them, within their hearts. “...manifest” is like whatever is before one’s eyes. When something is before one’s eyes it is irrefutably visible as long as the eye is open. In such a way God is beheld by the soul. The fleshly eye can be closed, but the spiritual one cannot: it watches ceaselessly. Such is the soul’s knowledge that there is God, that He created everything and contains everything and that one must do His will as it is pronounced by conscience. “The knowledge of Himself God placed in men from the beginning” (Saint John Chrysostom). It therefore means: “for God has showed it unto them”.
-- Theophan the Recluse.
1. How does Jeff know that God hasn't fooled him into thinking he's certain about things that are false?
2. How does Jeff receive and trust Biblical revelation without first presupposing his own existence as well as the reliability of his cognitive faculties?
Chad Ellis blind faith.
+Fastsofaracing Yup
Chad Ellis by inviting people to google hangouts
▪you are presupposing your faculties exist and are cogent in and of themselves, but how can you know?!--you know because you presuppose that your presuspose some force be it by design had to codify vis a design element.
--how do you then know with a seemed certainty that jeff could believe falsely
+the watchman I'd be happy to answer your questions in a Google hangout. Do you accept my invitation?
Chad Ellis yeah let me get the app. I'll let you know
the bible is full of apologetic example yet the church has not taken its time to learn about it thus slow church growth is being experienced currently
The word in Romans 1:18 is not "suppress" but "hold". It is κατέχω
Do not use those corrupt translations, only KJV is true word of God for English speaking people.
Then why are you referring back to the Greek word which does indeed mean to hold down
is he catholic or protestant?
Calvinist
Reformed Covenantal is more precise.
Pre-suppositional in Apologetics.
He has said in other videos "Reformed Baptist"
Protestant...
He likes using Iceland in examples.
A MAN named Paul said that everyone knows that Yahweh is real, that he exists, suppress the truth. Really...so a MAN named Paul wrote something, and whatever he said must be true? When Paul was practicing Judaism, he was bat shit crazy. So he becomes a Christian. Do you really think his mental health was any better?
Dill Doe
You say MAN as if its not credible. That arguement always kills me. As if you would believe scripture if God signed the bottom of it "God".
And yes Paul is one of the most respected writers on both sides of the isle. His literature in and of itself is brillant regardless if you're an athiest or christian. Read it sometime.
God was speaking thru Paul.
I missed the verse that said he was “bat shit crazy”
@@seeqr9
Because it's only in your deceived mind...
Mother Goose what?! I think you’ve got a screw loose. Confused.
You can believe that material man came from fish and that spiritual man was added/combined later and it will be completely consistent with Christianity. Both material man and spiritual man were created by God. If God made creation in 6 days he can certainly figure out how to make spiritual man from fish.
The act of murder is rampant in the Bible. In much of the Bible, especially the Old Testament, there are laws that command that people be killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay, cursing your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. In addition to these crazy and immoral laws, there are plenty of examples of God’s irrationality by his direct killing of many people for reasons that defy any rational explanation such as killing children who make fun of bald people, and the killing of a man who tried to keep the ark of God from falling during transport. There are also countless examples of mass murders commanded by God, including the murder of women, infants, and children.
Hannibal Lecter it's always amazing how religious people waste there whole life's by putting so much of themselves in to it. This guy clearly believes but I don't think he realises how arrogant he sounds claiming that his religion is the only real religion. Using the word objective and evidence. Reading something and believing doesn't make any of it real. A loving caring God would not say whoever is not with me is against me. Jesus is not Lord over my life and I for one am glad.
solidskirk well that's you. don't believe, that's your right.
Jason Kehoe the point I'm making is that religion has a habit of saying how beautiful and good the work of there God is, it is not for me to say what I believe what a loving God would do, that would imply that I believe in a God I however come from a place of having no reason to believe in something based on faith, faith is not a tangible thing that leads to any kind of proof. to claim you have evidence based on faith and a book with some outlandish stories in it not proof of anything. the world is full of wonder beauty and terrible things and no God is required. the beauty of atheism is that I could be wrong and there maybe a God but until I have a reason to believe then why would I. because I have to or I'll burn in hell for not beleaving. this is just not good enough. the God you praise is all and everything and he requires our love so badly that if we don't give it to him he crys and stamps his feet. sounds to me like God needs to grow up.
@solidskirk That moment when a lump of clay starts whining at it's Maker to "grow
up". The Potter said, "My ways are not your ways....", yet you feel the
need to judge your Creator by human standards (yours lol), and
anthropomorphize His eternal justice into 'crying and stamping feet'.
I understand the attraction of your own nutty ~belief system~ ("the
world is full of wonder beauty and terrible things and no God is
required"); good, solid observation, followed by non-sequitur
'conclusion'. God ~is~ required, as creation's complexity and the
inter-relationships and symbiosi between it's components defy
Evolutionism's 'aeons of happy accidents' by many, many decimal places.
Your 'god-less' Alternate Explanation for our world cannot even account
for the premise you claim: if everything has just 'come about of it's
own accord', then such concepts as 'wonder, beauty, and terrible things'
have no meaning (you can't even explain why your food tastes good, let alone explain aesthetic Beauty, or make moral attributions such as 'wonderful', or 'terrible'). God, and the moral compunction that derives from the theistic 'Good/Evil Paradigm' are necessary for there to even be such things as wonder, beauty, good.....and evil. If there's NO purpose to human life, and no accounting for your existence, thoughts, and deeds, then there's no such thing as 'beauty', good, evil, 'terrible things', et al, and NO repercussions for ANYTHING we do to ourselves, or one another. That lack of any reckoning for one's miserably self-absorbed life is, actually, the Big Attraction of the Atheist/Materialist world-view (and is codified as, ' "Do what thou wilt" shall be the whole of the Law')....however, it denies it's adherents the ability to explain or engage such non-accidental, non 'evolutionary'concepts as beauty, generosity, 'good' or 'evil', the persuasive
language of music, etc etc.
I start laughing at the unintended irony when Atheists bring up concepts such as these, since their own dogmatic world-view DOESN'T ALLOW THEM.
If you believe these concepts DO hold any meaning, then Atheism may not be for you, after all.......
hippiekarl7 now that's some bullshit right there, here's 10 reasons not to believe, enjoy.
10- You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of your god.
9- You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from lesser life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt
8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Trinity god
7- Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" -- including women, children, and trees!
6- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5- You are willing to spend your life looking for little loop-holes in the scientifically established age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by pre-historic tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations old.
4- You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -- will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet you consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving".
3- While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to prove Christianity.
2- You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1- You actually know a lot less than many Atheists and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history -- but still call yourself a Christian
Durbin is just as ridiculous as any militant atheist
How so? Is what regard?
@@PunkEvangelist Durbin explains in this video that God, Jesus and the supernatural are factually and objectively true. He think he’s 100% right. So actually, he’s way more fundamentalist than a militant atheist.
@@123rockfan Laws of logic, math, non-contradiction, induction and morality are by definition supernatural. Since they don't happen naturally, meaning that they exist whether we do or not, You cannot go out and find logic in nature.
from a materialistic big bang worldview you could not have any of these things existing
@@PunkEvangelist it’s funny how religious people conflate atheism with the Big Bang. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand. What we’re discussing is whether there’s evidence for a supernatural all knowing deity that created the universe. And there’s simply no evidence, besides apologetic nonsense that bastardizes real science. Big bang is also a theory with a lot of strong compelling evidence. But it’s impossible to actually say if the theory is 100% factual.
If Yahweh, the deity of the Bible, is real, the only thing He has made apparent to everyone is that there must be some explanation for the origin of our universe and some of our behaviors should be avoided because they have negative consequences. I'm sorry, but this knowledge is not sufficient to know that Yahweh is the explanation for the origin of our universe.
It sounds like you missed a portion of this video. Here's the thing though. You will never ever be able to prove God's existence with empirical data. The natural world we live demands a scientific reason for everything, and there is, except when science turns to God, and says "I rule over you". The problem with the scientific method is that it uses current data to explain a scenario. Man cannot prove a metaphysical existence with physical means, it doesn't make sense. How can man prove something that man cannot understand? The word "eternity" is the fathomable definition of what eternity is like, and yet, no man has experienced eternity while living, no man can understand eternity. The point I'm attempting to make is that you and I could argue about certain things regarding this subject all day, but at the end of the conversation, I, nor Jeff Durbin, nor Van Til, nor Greg Bahnsen can do anything to change your heart. That requires the Holy Spirit. In fact the only reason why I decided to comment is just plead you to read Psalms 14.1.
Alexander Vlietstra When the Holy Spirit communicates with you, how do you know that this Spirit is actually the deity Yahweh, described in the Bible?
There are numerous verses a couple of them are: Matthew 28.19, John 10.30, 2 Corinthians 13.14.
The fact you use "Yahweh" is interesting. That makes me think you're either very politically correct, or some other form of Christianity?
I'm a Free Reformed Christian, so I use these terms for correctness sake. The doctrine of the Trinity is a very very tricky one though, not one I am qualified to answer.
taejun kim Aside from the things I think Yahweh made apparent to us, what else do you think "God" made apparent to us that clearly points to Yahweh as the deity which created everything?
The New Testament is provable.