This video also does not tell you what that clicking sound is when you rotate the engine over at the 4:15 mark. The right valve spring sounds like it makes a popping noise, this is normal on these engines. It has something to do with the decompression release, its not a hung up valve. Hope this clarifies some of your worries.
6:21 very well said. I did the valve adjustment on my br600, and it was actually pretty cool to see those rocker arms and how they work. The valve adjustment itself is as easy as demonstrated. I like that they split the cover on this one so it makes it easier to access. One thing about these 4-mix engines: they don't suffer from cold weather the way a 2-stroke does. Even without switching to winter mode (it's a function in the air filter housing), it still barely shrugs at -20C days. Can't say that for any 2-stroke I've ever had.
I have one tip for you guys when you buy a new handheld equipment before you use it to do a compression test so that you have a starting base to go by also keep records of repairs
Had to do this on my few year old BR800. Mild residential use only. Seriously? Not impressed Stihl. Pulled out my blower and by the time I finished my fist use of the season, it would no longer idle. No other signs or symptoms. Ran fine wide open for the most part. Figured bad gas from last season. Nope. Eventually found this video, cut my own 0.1 gauge and did the adjustment. Instantly back to functioning like a brand new machine. So, Note to any owner of a BR800, buy the kit after a season of use, your going to need it, which is a bit disappointing for just light residential use, especially since I own a lot of Stihl equipment for my property. I enjoy owning quality equipment, and this is one of the more expensive items in the group. Was very impressed at first, as I am with the quality of most of Stihl line, but having to adjust valves after a couple of seasons? WTH? Is it a design flaw? Do you have a fix? How about a lock nut for on top of the pushrods? Or is the camshaft wearing away with each use? No impressed. This should not be requirement of ownership. I would still recommend the blower, but warn any buyer to buy the valve adjustment kit with it.
The top of my head blew right off when I discovered that this is a four stroke !!!! I always assumed that mix gas was for two stroke motors. It makes sense to me , considering how powerful the Magnum is, now. Thanks for this video. Now I can get back to properly adjust mine.
So much easier than accessing the valves on the 500,550,600,and 700 with that little cover. They made the same improvement with the fs 91,111, and 131 series trimmers. Good thinking stihl engineers.
I hear ya for doing your own work. I've had 2 bad experiences with my local Stihl dealer. I went in to order some blower parts and they said it would be in a week. Two weeks after I didn't here from them I called and they never ordered it and I had to wait another week. The last issue I had with them was I took me trimmer in to get checked out. They charged me $40 to give me a estimate and didn't even state what was wrong on the estimate. I'm not dealing with them anymore.
When ordering parts tell them your willing to pay the shipping. Making 5 dollars on your parts doesnt make sense when shipping is 20 at the minimum from Stihl.
@Mike Studmuffin he did say 0.1mm and then said that is .010 inches but it is not it is .004 as you stated. They should correct for someone that has a feeler gauge that is not marked in mm as the difference between .004 and .010 is material.
Big thanks for this video bud. This was valuable info for the home owner DIY. I don't like paying for something I can do myself. You earned my subscription. Thank you!
Just did the valve lash adjustment on my BR600. That access cover is sweet, and I wish my machine had it. I did it because it has never been done and it was so hard to pull the cord out. I don't know how many hours I have on my machine. It's at least 5 years old and get run alot with the leaves on my wooded lot this time of the year.
What is a telling sign that my blower needs a valve adjustment? I understand regular adjustments once a season is best practice, but are there specific symptoms that might alarm me to adjust the valves more often than normal?
Thomas Farrell it becomes harder to start. More tension on the pull. It will still run but adjusting the valves does wonders. I’m a Stihl, Husqvarna, and Honda Tech along with others. Hope this comment helps noticed you never received a response
I was wondering the same thing. I watched another video about removing the side pull, but it was in spanish (Juan Mendoza?). I speak very little spanish myself, but it was straightforward. Seems just as easy. 3 or 4 bolts and it comes off. Looks just the same from that point on. The pull cord actually looked fairly simple to replace also. Hope that helps
Thanks for this andy!! This is money. I will be getting that br800. Valve adjustment looks way easier. I also like that other model that can be started while the bp is on!! Do you know if BP racks are available for it yet?
Does anyone out there know what the ring end gap should be for the BR600, thinking about replacing the old rings with new ones, haven't found anyone yet that knows this spec HELP!!!
Have this guy do a video on replacing the side start assist spring.... had mine less then a year and that assist spring isn’t as strong as it used to be. And takes 5-10 pills to get going! Dealer wants 105 an hour plus the 10 bucks for the spring.
So I’m watching this and I can’t help but wonder.....this is truly a question So the Stihl needs a valve adjustment periodically the Echo doesn’t. The Stihl has a shutter behind the air filter to flip when the temp gets colder the Echo doesn’t. The Stihl is less powerful than the Echo and more money in the C version What am I missing? Why doesn’t everyone run Echo? I have both Stihl and Echo equipment and to me it seams cut and dry. The Stihl seams to require more maintenance, cost more and has less power. Yes the side start is sweet but..... Looking for thoughts not hate....thanks
One area the Stihl outshines the 2 stroke Echo is, it's a lot better in fuel efficiency, as a lawn service you can save on the average of about $240 a year over a Echo
Echo is heavier, less fuel efficient, and is typically perceived to be MUCH louder. The Stihl 4mix has a different sound than a 2 stroke and most find it far less annoying. Also you have personal subjective factors like back plate comfort.
Kyle Parks that’s like a number one rule for me, remove battery for cars and sparks if working on the ignition system and sparks on any power tool when doing anything not involving fuel or throttle
Nice try, but .1mm is .0039” so hopefully no one listens to this guy saying .1mm is rough .010-.012” be pretty shitty if they thought the were doing it right and opened their clearance up to 3x what it should be.
Great Video Mon Ami...... Now that you showed this most Pro Landscapers won't have to have a field tech come out..... Wow a hundred bux an hour..... I only charge 65 per hour, BUT I always have return and great word of mouth for my BIZ....... I got you subbed ............... Plus Tard Mon Ami ~!~!
@Kenny Eaton I have the 131R, all my stick equipment and my handheld blower is stihl and I love stihl. When it comes to backpack blowers the 8010 is the most powerful, went to it from a redmax 8500 and *nothing* else currently on the market compares to the *power* of the 8010, *period*. Not even the new redmax 8550, nothing. I repair and maintain my own equipment myself and the thing I could see going bad on the 8010 after a while is the carb. If that's the case I'll just order the whole carb kit cheap online and have it back like new in minutes. Not saying echo or stihl is a better company but when it comes to backpack blowers echo *currently* has stihl beat. In my personal expereience owning and using both stihl does seem to be a bit more reliable for people who don't know how to repair their own equipment.
@Kenny Eaton I hear ya on that and honestly I do believe stihl is more reliable than echo and I love stihl. I had a redmax 8500 and the crank bearings went, thing started clunking like a diesel when you pull the rope to start it and when it was running it clunked real bad so I removed the pull starter and I could move the piece the pull starter connects too up, down, and side to side so I replaced the crank bearings, piston and rings and it was like new again. Sold that blower for $300 and bought the echo 8010 and I love it. Only echo I have is the new backpack blower and my hedge trimmers, my weedeater, stick edger and handheld blower are all stihl. I only use my equipment to maintain my own lawn and with the exception of the 8010 I bought all my equipment used and cheap and restore it to new myself. The echo 8010 really shows it's true colors when you have to blow alot of leaves or some heavy stuff, due to the high CFMs it puts out. Normal grass blowing is great too but not too impressive compared to other blowers with equal or more MPH.
Most thorough vid yet on Stihl leaf blowers. Thanks man. Awesome the dealer and you got this relationship and trust.
This video also does not tell you what that clicking sound is when you rotate the engine over at the 4:15 mark. The right valve spring sounds like it makes a popping noise, this is normal on these engines. It has something to do with the decompression release, its not a hung up valve. Hope this clarifies some of your worries.
6:21 very well said.
I did the valve adjustment on my br600, and it was actually pretty cool to see those rocker arms and how they work. The valve adjustment itself is as easy as demonstrated. I like that they split the cover on this one so it makes it easier to access.
One thing about these 4-mix engines: they don't suffer from cold weather the way a 2-stroke does. Even without switching to winter mode (it's a function in the air filter housing), it still barely shrugs at -20C days. Can't say that for any 2-stroke I've ever had.
I have one tip for you guys when you buy a new handheld equipment before you use it to do a compression test so that you have a starting base to go by also keep records of repairs
Does the br320 blower have valves
@@michaelhoyle6433 as far as I know all the Stihl blowers are four stroke
@@michaelhoyle6433no.from.the br 550 and up they do
Had to do this on my few year old BR800. Mild residential use only. Seriously? Not impressed Stihl. Pulled out my blower and by the time I finished my fist use of the season, it would no longer idle. No other signs or symptoms. Ran fine wide open for the most part. Figured bad gas from last season. Nope. Eventually found this video, cut my own 0.1 gauge and did the adjustment. Instantly back to functioning like a brand new machine. So, Note to any owner of a BR800, buy the kit after a season of use, your going to need it, which is a bit disappointing for just light residential use, especially since I own a lot of Stihl equipment for my property. I enjoy owning quality equipment, and this is one of the more expensive items in the group. Was very impressed at first, as I am with the quality of most of Stihl line, but having to adjust valves after a couple of seasons? WTH? Is it a design flaw? Do you have a fix? How about a lock nut for on top of the pushrods? Or is the camshaft wearing away with each use? No impressed. This should not be requirement of ownership. I would still recommend the blower, but warn any buyer to buy the valve adjustment kit with it.
The top of my head blew right off when I discovered that this is a four stroke !!!! I always assumed that mix gas was for two stroke motors. It makes sense to me , considering how powerful the Magnum is, now. Thanks for this video. Now I can get back to properly adjust mine.
BR800 C-E Petrol Backpack Leaf Blower 79.9cc 4-Mix
This is why I only run 2 stoke handheld equipment. Only plug and filters NO other maintenance is needed.
So much easier than accessing the valves on the 500,550,600,and 700 with that little cover. They made the same improvement with the fs 91,111, and 131 series trimmers. Good thinking stihl engineers.
I hear ya for doing your own work. I've had 2 bad experiences with my local Stihl dealer. I went in to order some blower parts and they said it would be in a week. Two weeks after I didn't here from them I called and they never ordered it and I had to wait another week. The last issue I had with them was I took me trimmer in to get checked out. They charged me $40 to give me a estimate and didn't even state what was wrong on the estimate. I'm not dealing with them anymore.
In Little Rock, Arkansas we have a dealer named Cleve Addie they are the best , no jerking you around .
When ordering parts tell them your willing to pay the shipping. Making 5 dollars on your parts doesnt make sense when shipping is 20 at the minimum from Stihl.
Wrong information from the Stihl technician, proper valve lash is .004 “ of an inch not .010-.012 “ ...book calls for 139 hours service interval ...
But,,,is it different process on the br800c?????? That was the br800x he demonstrated on....thank you.
@Mike Studmuffin he did say 0.1mm and then said that is .010 inches but it is not it is .004 as you stated. They should correct for someone that has a feeler gauge that is not marked in mm as the difference between .004 and .010 is material.
Big thanks for this video bud. This was valuable info for the home owner DIY. I don't like paying for something I can do myself. You earned my subscription. Thank you!
So same on the 800 c with the side pull start? Back plate is different from the 800 x
I asked the same question...have u heard if its the same on the br800c????????????...Thank you.
That is fantastic! A great change made by STIHL!
You have the kit number the crush washer gasket & gauge. Great video thank you
Just did the valve lash adjustment on my BR600. That access cover is sweet, and I wish my machine had it. I did it because it has never been done and it was so hard to pull the cord out.
I don't know how many hours I have on my machine. It's at least 5 years old and get run alot with the leaves on my wooded lot this time of the year.
My 700 won't start. Could this cause the blower not to start if the valves haven't been adjusted? I've had it for 2 years and never adjusted it.
What is a telling sign that my blower needs a valve adjustment? I understand regular adjustments once a season is best practice, but are there specific symptoms that might alarm me to adjust the valves more often than normal?
Thomas Farrell it becomes harder to start. More tension on the pull. It will still run but adjusting the valves does wonders. I’m a Stihl, Husqvarna, and Honda Tech along with others. Hope this comment helps noticed you never received a response
Awesome, thanks for that tip.
Once it gets hard to pull. My FS90R is at least 3 years old and ive never needed to adjust the valves.
Check the ms461 and the ms661 saws in the back.
I adjusted mine and it still sounds like it runs a little rough, would that mean it too tight or too loose.
Could be either
Could be neither.🤷
Wat about the side start is that easy to take off
I was wondering the same thing. I watched another video about removing the side pull, but it was in spanish (Juan Mendoza?). I speak very little spanish myself, but it was straightforward. Seems just as easy. 3 or 4 bolts and it comes off. Looks just the same from that point on. The pull cord actually looked fairly simple to replace also. Hope that helps
@@denttech2515 I'm doing it now there's just one extra screw on the left side besides that the same
What size bit do those screws require?
Great video! Thanks for sharing that tip! Definitely good to know they have made it easier to adjust the valves! 👍
Would have been better if they just built the engine better with needle bearing and you know METAL parts
Hey andy when you have to adjust the valves is there certain amount of hours before they need adjusting
I don’t know for sure it may be In the manual
Cut and Clean TV thank you andy i appreciate it
139 hours for first valve adjustment book says
Close your eyes and listen to this mechanic...sounds just like Nailor from Lawncare Rookie!!
Lol, yea he does!
Thanks for this andy!! This is money. I will be getting that br800. Valve adjustment looks way easier. I also like that other model that can be started while the bp is on!! Do you know if BP racks are available for it yet?
Great Video. Super well done. Thank you!!!
Does anyone out there know what the ring end gap should be for the BR600, thinking about replacing the old rings with new ones, haven't found anyone yet that knows this spec HELP!!!
Nice video...I take out plug...makes it easier to find top dead center..
Just saying
Amen bro...
When will the BR800 be available?
The day after I buy something else, guaranteed. I can't find the br 800 or the echo 8010 anywhere.
Do you do maintenance on your own equipment? Have you been to the 2018 GIE Expo?
I do a lot of maintenance on my own equipment and the 2018 gie hasn’t happened yet but I’ll be there
@@CutandCleanTV I wish I could go, it's too far away from where I live, it's almost on the other side of the country
When will the blower available
October I believe
@@CutandCleanTV AWESOME, guess I've got to find a new home for my BR700!
Ok thanks
my dealer told me they might get some in this year but more avaliable next year
who’s the girl in the background ?
This video just helps all the way around. Awesome tutorial!
my calculator shows 0.1 mm = 0.004 in or 4 thousandths, is the feeler gauge 10 thou or what??? (it looked like it was marked with 10 in the video)
The 0.004 is equal 10000 of inch
you don't have to do this with a 2 cycle blower
When does this machine hit lawn mower shops?
Start of 2019 mowing season. Some dealers are saying January.
Stihl feeler gauge is different from a regular feeler gauge , if the new Stihl rocker arm got side shirts
Where can u buy the Stihl feeler gage
you can buy feeler gages anywhere I bought mine at harbor freight. looks like a pocket knife with a bunch of different sizes in it.
Have this guy do a video on replacing the side start assist spring.... had mine less then a year and that assist spring isn’t as strong as it used to be. And takes 5-10 pills to get going! Dealer wants 105 an hour plus the 10 bucks for the spring.
Did u find out how to do the spring or did the dealer do it???? Thank you.
Thanks for the video! Just what I needed to know!
Muchas gracias por su video yo soy un aficionado en esto y resolví mi problema gracias a tu explicación.
What are the specs on the BR800?
I did see online 239mph, 912cfm,41newton
41 fig newtons
Great video Andy
I stay with the Best, Chicanik!
Thank you. Great advice..👍❤️
Thanks for sharing this video
So I’m watching this and I can’t help but wonder.....this is truly a question
So the Stihl needs a valve adjustment periodically the Echo doesn’t.
The Stihl has a shutter behind the air filter to flip when the temp gets colder the Echo doesn’t.
The Stihl is less powerful than the Echo and more money in the C version
What am I missing? Why doesn’t everyone run Echo? I have both Stihl and Echo equipment and to me it seams cut and dry. The Stihl seams to require more maintenance, cost more and has less power. Yes the side start is sweet but.....
Looking for thoughts not hate....thanks
One area the Stihl outshines the 2 stroke Echo is, it's a lot better in fuel efficiency, as a lawn service you can save on the average of about $240 a year over a Echo
Echo is heavier, less fuel efficient, and is typically perceived to be MUCH louder. The Stihl 4mix has a different sound than a 2 stroke and most find it far less annoying. Also you have personal subjective factors like back plate comfort.
I would say next time remove the spark plugs and as a just in case. 😂
Kyle Parks that’s like a number one rule for me, remove battery for cars and sparks if working on the ignition system and sparks on any power tool when doing anything not involving fuel or throttle
Why, no need
0:17
Best way to solve this problem is to get a Echo.
Easiest valve adjustment ever in your life is a sthil 4 mix product. Try doing it on a 4 stroke DOHC dirt bike lol good times
Nice job man
Great video Andy I appreciate it! ✌🏻
Nice try, but .1mm is .0039” so hopefully no one listens to this guy saying .1mm is rough .010-.012” be pretty shitty if they thought the were doing it right and opened their clearance up to 3x what it should be.
I caught that too. They should have corrected in the description below the video or superimposed text in the actual video
I'm glad I caught your comment before starting to do the wrong thing. Thanks for making me stop an think.
@@miketyler2513 no problem. It’s like the guy above you said, the should have super imposed the text into the video now that it has been brought up!
Look who's in the back ground. lol
.1mm = .0039 or ~ 4 thousandths
Awesome! Thanks
Great Video Mon Ami...... Now that you showed this most Pro Landscapers won't have to have a field tech come out.....
Wow a hundred bux an hour..... I only charge 65 per hour, BUT I always have return and great word of mouth for my BIZ.......
I got you subbed ............... Plus Tard Mon Ami ~!~!
Glad my echo 8010 doesn't have any valves to worry about adjusting. Just add mix fuel and run! This thing blows.
@Kenny Eaton Be butt hurt and say what you want. Meanwhile the br800 and surely the br700 don't compare to the power of the echo 8010.
@Kenny Eaton I have the 131R, all my stick equipment and my handheld blower is stihl and I love stihl. When it comes to backpack blowers the 8010 is the most powerful, went to it from a redmax 8500 and *nothing* else currently on the market compares to the *power* of the 8010, *period*. Not even the new redmax 8550, nothing. I repair and maintain my own equipment myself and the thing I could see going bad on the 8010 after a while is the carb. If that's the case I'll just order the whole carb kit cheap online and have it back like new in minutes. Not saying echo or stihl is a better company but when it comes to backpack blowers echo *currently* has stihl beat. In my personal expereience owning and using both stihl does seem to be a bit more reliable for people who don't know how to repair their own equipment.
@Kenny Eaton I hear ya on that and honestly I do believe stihl is more reliable than echo and I love stihl. I had a redmax 8500 and the crank bearings went, thing started clunking like a diesel when you pull the rope to start it and when it was running it clunked real bad so I removed the pull starter and I could move the piece the pull starter connects too up, down, and side to side so I replaced the crank bearings, piston and rings and it was like new again. Sold that blower for $300 and bought the echo 8010 and I love it. Only echo I have is the new backpack blower and my hedge trimmers, my weedeater, stick edger and handheld blower are all stihl. I only use my equipment to maintain my own lawn and with the exception of the 8010 I bought all my equipment used and cheap and restore it to new myself. The echo 8010 really shows it's true colors when you have to blow alot of leaves or some heavy stuff, due to the high CFMs it puts out. Normal grass blowing is great too but not too impressive compared to other blowers with equal or more MPH.
Thanks god bless
10 thousandths is .2mm 12 thousandths is .3mm
Did you know that Stihl copied the 4mix motor patent?
Gravely 💯💯
That so called music SUCKS! The information is great .