'There's validity' in Kobe saying Shaq would be GOAT if he stayed in shape - Skip | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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- Kobe Bryant recently made comments that he would've had 12 championships if Shaq worked out harder, also including saying he would've been the GOAT. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe react to his statement and explain why Kobe is right.
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'There's validity' in Kobe saying Shaq would be GOAT if he stayed in shape - Skip | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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Are Kobe and Shaq the best duo in NBA history?
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED kyrie and goat James
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED Wade & Bron
. Raymond Felton and Dennis Schroeder.
Very possible
Duo? Phew. Magic and Kareem is pressing up against this one. MJ and Pippen as well.
When you being a top 10 basketball player is considered an underachievement, you know you were a monster.
TheDCGuitar13 facts .
TheDCGuitar13 facts
I always say that. Shaq won 4 champions and was dominate. And I still say (and many others) he underachieved. That is how amazing he is
Facts
Even if Shaq would've been the greatest ever... I would STILL not want to be playing like him. It's not beautiful to me. I would still want to play like MJ and Kobe.
"the more Shaq won, the more Shaq ate...which was hard to watch " 😂😂😂
Michael Madrid 😭😭😭😭😭💀
Well, can't say he didn't stay hungry after winning.
@@nelsonbetancourt9306 LMFAO 😂 😂 😂 😂
Nelson Betancourt lol
Nelson Betancourt best sub comment
If Shaq had Kobe’s work ethic, with Steph Curry’s Jumpshot, Vince Carter’s athleticism, Alex Rodriguez’s steroids, Mike Tyson’s lisp, Joe Rogan’s turning sidekick, and Jalen Rose’s hairline, they woulda won at least 37 rings
Tyson's lisp makes anything possible.
Tyler Lufkin lmfaooo
Tyler Lufkin joe Rogans sidekick😂
Pure idiot😂😂😂😂😂
🤣😂😅👍
Shaq could've played in the NFL as an entire Offensive Line
whos better all time kobe or shaq
@@macp2657 lebron
Mac 26 5>4 yuknow the answer 😉
@@macp2657 Shaq
😂
Shaq was like , titles ? give me my damn burger .
still won 4 tho
I read this in his voice
Petar Gulin true. Shaq really shouldn’t be upset with his career because he’s still one of the best. But deep down he probably regrets not being as dedicated as other players. I remember him saying in an interview that he didn’t even put effort into practice and he’d just show up in the game
I'm mad I laughed at this 😂😂😂
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How can you not love Shannon Sharpe man 🤷🏾♂️
True, brother
Easy if you are a racist.
I betcha all 39 of you guys are Lem fanboys
Uncle Shay is more like Uncle Tom
David Martin I like him but his Lebron d riding is annoying, appart from that I like him.
I love, love, love Shannon Sharpe's insights! And I love how he has matured from a novelty/fresh face in TV talk to a mature, respected voice who can fairly debate and present factual arguments. Top notch analyst!!
I hope this is sarcasm...
LAVAR BALL
A groupie using the same tired clown emoji, y’all kids follow everything.
I hope you aren't talking about how he thinks lebron is the goat.
Back when sharpe was in cbs he was horrible tv analyst it is amazing how much better he is now
@@arthurmorgan835 Lebron is the GOAT
If Shaq stays in shape and is disciplined him and Kobe would have had no problem with each other
Yes they would have lol
@Playmakersc12 K you obviously just listen to whatever media tells you
Oh you're dead wrong
Facts! it would have just drove kobe harder to match shaq and they would get better and better
@Dominic dominic Is that why he lead a team to two more titles after Shaq left?
“If you stay ready, you won’t have to get ready” Shannon out here quoting the great Suga Free 👍👍👍👍😂😂😂😂😂
StephanLamar81 just add wata!!!
StephanLamar81 lol 😂
Street Gospel!
Suga Free The Features
"If I had a dollar, for Everytime somebody look at me sideways....
Shaq was a man amongst boys he used to just physically dunk on dudes and they couldn’t do ish about it
Curt Purdy captain obvious
Had a great post game and soft touch too
As opposed to other greats like Hakeem, Kareem, Wilt, and Russel. Those guys would MENTALLY dunk on their opponents, never physically like Shaq
Until he met big ben he made shaq work but also remember Orlando shaq was getting that work from hakeem.
How else do you dunk on people but physically?
Shannon: Robin never got a spin off
*Nightwing has left the chat
grateful to see a fellow comic guy on the sports side of the internet lol
Does Teen Titans not count??
"The more shaq won, the more he ate which was hard to watch" 😂😂😂
Kobe and Shaq were both alphas. they would have split eventually.
7-8 rings together at most. And if Shaq had the work ethic like kobe said.. Shaq would have all FMVPs too
Adam Leon I think Kobe would’ve won at least 2 or 3 final mvps
Adam Leon naaa cause by that logic dwade is better than Kobe cause he won one over shaq. Kobe would have gotten at least two
@@dwightnewton9399 never with shaq
shaq is the best player in the world if he is with kobe
Shaq would of gotten older and eventually, Kobe would of gotten a few FMVPs, whether Shaq stayed in shape or not. But I'll say this, Shaq would have been the GOAT no question if he stayed focus and in shape.
Stephen a smith said the shag would eat a big Mack before practice and Kobe walk in the training room like bruh 😂😂😂😂😂😅
😂😂😂
This undisputed though
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@@Judevrgt lmaoo bruh just go on first take on espn😭
One of the things that's always omitted from this is that Phil Jackson asked Shaq to get bigger when he arrived in 1999, to be able to sustain the pounding he got.
Both them didn't know what they was doing haha
Yeah get bigger, not fatter
The pounding... Yeah
Bigger muscles, yeah, not a bigger stomach
Pause
Just imagine if he actually made his free throws😱
His hands were too big. Players with big hands always have free throw issues. But if he did make free throws. Yeah. 38ppg. Lol.
I agree.I remember during 01-02 especially in the playoffs he was averaging a triple double of 34,14 and 10 so if he'd have been making free throws that would've been flat out cheating lmao!
Kkbsrt86 have you seen kawhi leonard? Dude has some ginormous hands and he does good at shooting and FT’s
@@kkbsrt8687 nah that's a bs excuse. Bottom line, he didnt practice.
@@kkbsrt8687 Kawhi got giant hands and averages almost 90% from the free throw line.
Also Kobe did regularly drop 40 with shaq there and 50 at times I see the 81 point game was coming regardless especially a game shaq was hurt or fouled at early Kobe was just that good
Kobe would be just another pippen if shaq was working harder
@@aajr2366 disrespectful Kobe was great it would've been a 1A 1B later down the line with Kobe eventually taking over if they stayed together. Unlike Jordan and pippen kobe and shaq could both put very similar outputs on offense.
Undefeated pacifist yeah but it’s a lot easier to dunk or hit a layup than a jumpshot Shaq could score with less effort than Kobe making him more efficient he was the most unstoppable player ever at his peak.
Even in shape by 04 Kobe was better and he was always better on defense he carried them in playmaking and defense he was complete Shaq was just physically dominant was the rules changed he wouldn't be as dominant and get away with the elbows and traveling but the fact that people think Kobe wasn't gonna be Kobe is hilarious because that fact he was him was due to the allegations in combination with him being competitive he was going hard at MJ in his 96 season when the Bulls were 72-10 he would always have become the Mamba he's a killer
Alen Ajradinović lol no. Pippen was a clear number 2 option. Kobe was 1B to Shaq 1A. It was real close but Shaq was in his prime. Couldn’t stop him
Shaq is underrated because of his size. His potential was really seen in Orlando when he was running the fast break by his damn self
That’s what I’m talking about, the Orlando Magic’s version is Shaq was a monster. Nobody could stop him.
I agree
@@kozmeetorez Hakeem
@@33Chapter yeah held him to 29 & 13. And that's not anywhere near prime Shaq. Go sit in the corner
@@DNikos So all I know is that Hakeem ended the sweep with a 3 pointer of Shaq's head top so leave this chatroom. This is for ballers only
Miss Kobe wish ppl showed him that love while he was alive truly the LA goat of basketball
This was a brilliant segment. Shannon's sharp analysis and Skip's enthusiastic agreement.
Shaq was the master of Bully Ball!!! The only other Center to even hang with him was Hakeem!!!
You forgot the 1994 finals were Hakeem obliterated Shaq with finesse.
@jdubthemenace True on center's but Rodman used to give him the business.
@Jason Avery Shaq averaged 29 and 11 that season, shooting 58% from the field and was 2nd team All-NBA. He was experienced enough, Hakeem was just killing him with those finesse moves he couldn't handle him.
yao ming gave him fits tho lmaooo
Don't forget about rookie Yao Ming. If not for injuries Yao was next in line. Plus, yao dominated their matchups.
Shaq and Kobe would have had 8 rings for sure if Shaq stayed in shape. That 2000-2002 Lakers was the most dominant shyt ever... No crazy plays or schemes, just pure physical dominance from Shaq & Kobe...💯🏆💜💛
nba was weak at that time too they had 2 superstars while other great teams only had 1, if they played the 73 win warriors they wouldve lost and they would've got swept by the warriors with kd
FoshoGotFlow
The Pistons won the Finals pretty easily against the Lakers
@UCYzALNKZcgoetvEnMbD34MA did you just say Robinson was in his prime
@@knickstape2559 Youre high. Go home 🏠
adfadsfas a finals in which Malone got hurt Shaq was out of Shape kobe was dealing with off the court case while feuding with Shaq it was a perfect storm for Detroit
A dude who didn’t have the work ethic is a top 10 player of all time...let that sink in...if that doesn’t show u the greatness shaq exuded than I don’t know what will sheesh😐
Shaq had a tremendous work ethic, it just wasn't 100% focused on basketball. Just look at some of the things he did during his NBA career that didn't involve basketball. He released multiple albums, one of which went platinum, acted is a large number of movies, went through the LA Police Academy and became an LA reserve police officer, then became a reserve officer in Miami after being traded, actively invested and developed real estate projects, received an MBA, received a doctorate in education. To me that is a way more impressive resume then if he had a few more NBA titles.
@@mezzaninex that's exactly what we're talking about when we say shaq dicked around too much
its not just the weight. imagine if he worked harder in practice and improved his free throws (he shot 50% for career in playoffs). one of the big things other top 10 centers like kareem and hakeem had over shaq is they shot like 70 something % from the line. if shaq couldve done that i bet he would be recognized by a lot more people as being better than them. only other top 10 center who was as bad at the line was wilt and a lot of the same criticisms apply to wilt too.
They need to stop with the kobe hate
Kobe is an all time great period
Shaq was so dominant that he was lazy AF & he still was dropping 30-10-5 on dudes heads. ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Easy to do....when ur bigger than everyone else. He'd be trash at 6'8". Couldn't dunk then.
^^^ folks like this need to come up with new excuses, there were plenty of 7-footers that came through the league, and not many measured up to half of what Shaq did.
Naw Shaq for his height he was very athletic don't let his size/weight fool you. Look at highlights when he was with the Magic dude was solid
Shaq just went Hollywood movies and music than working on his first craft
Imagine if Shaq would have taken his health more seriously
Kobe never said "if he worked harder" he said if he had the mindset of KOBE BRYANT.
He specifically said if he worked harder, multiple times. What you said is irrefutably false and invalid.
“One glass of hen a day, instead of three” 😂😂
Why is everyone focusing on the 12 rings? That was a obvious exaggeration
Bernard Puller Shaq could of been the Modern Day Bill Russell . If Shaq was the Orlando Shaq who Ran the Floor and a Block Monster . Because he was just Bigger than everybody. Bill Russell Dominated at 6’9-6’10 not the biggest our Strongest but has the will to win over everything
ANTONIO chambers Wilt. Shaq was the modern day version of him.
slickeddy2000 the average height of the league was much shorter when bill was playing plus his team was stacked
It's worth the discussion smh
Nah actually Kobe would've had a real chance at chasing Bill Russell he had 3 rings by age 23
Shaq was the man in LA during his run. Ppl need to remember he wasn't just the best player on his team but he dominated the entire league!
I would say it’s shaq team bc he had more dominant games rather then Kobe only having one and shaq got all the finals mvp some ppl have 5th all time and Kobe 6th all time but I have Kobe 5th all time that was shaq team if me and Kobe played together in our prime 06-07 Kobe and 2012-2013 lebron 💀💀 we’d ruin the league
Shaq was on the bench in late 4 quarters due to his foul shooting missed 3 thousand shots worth of free throws his centers he faced were on the tail end of thier careers kobe had to face the best wingman in the leagues
@@concord252able: Shaq was easily the 2nd best center behind Olajuwon before entering his prime! He was better than Ewing, Mutumbo, Mourning, Robinson, Divac etc etc so that argument goes straight out the window. Plus he single handedly took out Duncan n Robinson in the playoffs n toyed with defensive player of the year Mutumbo in the Finals to get his 2nd straight Finals MVP...
@@concord252able The best wingmen during the 3 peat years played in the East. Kobe barely saw them.
I’m going to look back later in life and remember how consistently entertaining and real these two (max and Stephen A too) were and how awesome it was tuning in every day. FOH I’m nostalgic already when I see clips from 2 years ago on my feed.
Kobe with Shaq winning 6 or 7 ships would have made him the S Pippen of the Lakers.
Jorge Melendez exactly!
Nahh...remember Kobe wasn't even in his prime yet, when Shaq left. 06-2010 Kobe was a Monster! The drama between them gives Kobe all the blame. If shaq would have stayed, people probably wouldn't hate Kobe the way that they do! People really believe Kobe's rings belonged to Shaq & Pau 😭
@Tyler Hingleton Not according to age & maturity. #24 is an example of him mastering his game. #8 he was still a student learning from his predecessors. He had yet to go through his own transgressions, #8 was just pure talent & heart to will...#24 is when he finally became the player he always envisioned himself being. Kobe's best numbers came from when he had better teammates, but his most extraordinary task was beating The 1st Super Team Celtics in 2010. I love #8 Kobe because if they would have got it right with him, understood his youth & immaturity, instead of blaming him for his failures & the divorce between him and Shaq, #24 might have never happened.
@Tyler Hingleton I never said he wasn't based off numbers, I said maturity & etc. We all know prime Kobe was 05-up! He was young Kobe with Shaq. There wasn't any 50 point & 60 point games from him before 05. & I'm not saying u need 50pts & 60pt games determines if your in your prime or not. He had a lot more in him, & a level we didnt get to see until after 05.
@Tyler Hingleton Your missing the point.
If they stayed together and Shaq was more disciplined I still believe that the reigns would’ve been passed to Kobe eventually. If they won 6 together Kobe would’ve had at least two Final MVPs. He probably wouldn’t have won a regular season MVP tho
Shaq wasn’t the one that needed discipline, even Phil Jackson said this.
Nate Was Phil speaking in regards to his diet/conditioning?
Right. I think say they could've won 6 (maybe more), the second half (3) would be Kobe FMVPs. Kobe was killing early on but what's not talked about and crazy to say is that wasn't even his peak prime yet even though he put up those kinds of numbers at that young age.
Yeah, because no matter how much in shape you are, father time is undefeated. Kobe was entering his prime, while Shaq was getting older, and his decline showed a bit in Miami, due to age. Crazy part of all this, Kobe won those titles when he was 25, 26, and 27, so while Shaq was aging Kobe waa still in his best prime years and still with prime years left.
@Huncho Hendrix Lebron had 2 super teams and still lost to Kawhi Leonard and Steph Curry. Foh
I think Joel Embid will have the same issue, if he doesn't keep up the new diet
not really tje same. Shaq purposely got out of shape by his own account.
I also see Embid purposefully eating cheeseburgers before games haha haha
Lynette Farmer well he has to eat a lot of calories. Joel is basically shaqs size with the magic. He should eat healthier but a burger now n then ain’t gonna hurt
@@TheIcemanthomas wow I didn't know that did he say why?
@@willamcotton9419 his wanted to dominate more and he felt like he needed to get bigger to do so. So he purposely ate more and more to gain weight. Remember at one point he came into a season in LA at over 350 lbs and was crazy out of shape. He just thought he could get by just being as big as possible and stopped working on his game cause being big was enough. That's all his words.
“I was playing for free. They ain’t know it though.” 🤣🤣
Kobe went 3 straight finals 2008-2010
Without Shaq back in those times Kobe was scoring 25,30 and 32 !!
But yet y’all never bring up Kobe’s wins
Shaq won 1 finals and went team to team with no finals or any kind of NBA COMPARISON TO WHAT KOBE HAS DONE
shaq with just penny horrace and nick and scott beat mj pippen phil harper toni kerr jud wennington dickey and longley aka besides rodman the core of the 96-98 best team ever minus the 97 bison dele bulls in the 95 playoffs you idiot on their way to the finals losing to a repeat champion no shame.. ...that bulls team in 95 may not have had rodman and mj wasn't in nba plyayoff shape but it had bj avg. 14 ppg and will purdue at his peak and everyone was a year younger in their primes mostly so still pretty damn good team....I would say if mj played the whole year in shape that 95 team would of been the best team he was ever on cause bj and will were scoring over 20 combined together something rodman couldn't do lightening the load on mj and pippen
Kobe and Shaq fought a lot because he didn’t like that Shaq didn’t take it seriously enough. They would have been fine if Shaq worked hard.
It would've been something else. Kobe wanted too be #1
Eightys Baby87 and kobe should have been #1 as shaq was getting older and kobe was entering his prime but shaq prob would have never ceded the spot to him
Patrick Mate stop. Kobe was never as good as Shaq in la
Anybody has his own style of playing
They would have also been fine if Kobe passed the ball
Can the season just start already
Seriously bruh
Chill bro 2k20 almost here
Skip but if SHAQ trained like Kobe he would hit all his free throws.
Negatory cuz he wasn't good at em in college
@@A_Notes In college he also didn't train like Kobe.
@ it has everything to do with it. Explain how that is stupid
@@A_Notes freethrows and dieting dont equal mental frame aspect of actually shooting...
🤦🏿
Training free throws will make your free throws better 😂 duh
You know it's funny that Shannon uses the Robin analogy when Robin became Nightwing.
Shannon Sharpe speaking real facts 💪
Shannon is wrong about the FMVP part and here's why:
Shaq was in his prime when he got with rookie Kobe. That's why he got the mvps. If they had stayed together, naturally the roles would have switched. Kobe would've been the lead dog. I believe Shaq saw that coming and resented Kobe because of it.
not sure about the resenting part bc shaq said kobe was going to be the goat but i agree with u💯
@@antpain1156 people can say anything. Actions speak louder than words. Like Shannon's grandfather used to say, "boy I see better than I hear". Shaq clearly didn't like the idea of Kobe becoming the lead dog and tried to get the owner to choose between them. Buss chose Kobe
@@Josh-go5lu Uhh what? That wasn't Shaq who forced the owner to choose between them. That was Kobe.
@@MrBacon-ou1kw actually both of them made it clear they didn't want to play together anymore.
@@Josh-go5lu I'm aware of that but Kobe is the one who made that ultimatum and you're making it sound like Shaq was the one who demanded that.
I don’t believe kobe could play in 7-8 finals & not get at least 2-3 FMVP
Yeah, I see where your coming from, had some ballers in 7-8 tho
He played in 7 and got 2 finals mvps...
If Shaq is playing in all of them then Kobe probably ain't getting FMVP. Shaq was too dominant
Nine Dnine If Shaq had the work ethic that Kobe would’ve wanted, he’d have no FMVP. He already lost out on three straight with Shaq at 70-75% capacity.
@@tylergathers7174 You all keep forgetting that Kobe was 19-21 when they won those rings. Kobe became a much better player after 22. How was Lebron at that age? Nobody is good in the NBA at those ages.
If Shaq stayed in shape and increased his ft% by 2%, he would've averaged 40-50 pts for 4-5 years.
Shannon is the king of Analogy 😂
Come back Kobe please
Out of all the videos of Shannon and skip this is one of my favorites of all time. Shannon just weaved a tale so wonderfully told with his analogies and everything he made it so picturesque, mentally.
He ran the segments and Skip was along for the ride.
Had Shaq stayed in shape, he would foul out the starting line up of the opposing team by the end of third quarter every game and not need to play the fourth.
Kobe maximizes his potential for greatness..fact
Shaq was much more serious than he led us to believe but certainly didn’t maximize his potential..opinion
@Leland Joseph Kobe is a legendary talent and player. Hands down. You can argue he isn't top 10, I personally think he is, but the dude was fantastic. Anyone who thinks he isn't a legend and all-time great is foolish to the game.
@Leland Joseph I was say calling him a "media myth" is definitely an attempt to undermine his legacy. None of us said anything about MJ, and 99% of people will tell you MJ is better. MJ is far and away the best ever, but Kobe is a top 10 player all-time.
Kobe was often stupid on the court with his selfish play and was a horrible leader in the locker room. His one size fits all approach to leading doesn't work. There is a reason D-Wade though an alpha worked well with both Lebron and Shaq. He's was a real leader.
@Leland Joseph i agree kobe is over hyped
@Leland Joseph he won 3 titles with Shaq and 2 with Pau Gasol. That's a winner.
I don't know the other years he was expected to win and didn't. Losing to a 3 HOF Boston team? The Dwight Howard debacle that wouldn't have made the playoffs if he didn't finish the season hurt without Howard or Nash? The stacked pistons team with 4 all stars, DPOY, and Tayshaun Prince as their 5th best player?
You're being unrealistic. If him winning 10 titles is the criteria he has to meet to be in conversation with MJ, forget about it. He was going through the stacked West with Phoenix (Nash, Marion, Stoudamire, Jrich, Barbosa, Bell), prime Spurs (Duncan, Ginobli, Parker), Kings (Webber, Peja, JWill), Mavs (Dirk, Howard, Terry).
I mean, in 01 the the Blazers were the 7th seed with 51 wins. This was arguably the best decade for a conference ever. Then those stacked teams like Boston and Detroit after getting out of the west? Come on.
We did see one ....well maybe I didn't. His name was Wilt Chamberlain.
I don't think people realize truly how athletic Wilt actually was
True but without a doubt Shaq played in a more talented era no doubt wilt was ahead of his time?
@@watucam123 With Wilt's unmatched physique, I'm pretty sure he would've dominated any era he played in.
DonKrieg95 without a doubt he was too fast too strong
Finally
I’m in the gym doing arms and when unc said Robin always gotta be with Batman, I laughed and dropped my weight lol
i love how BURGER KING sponsored the story..and it's about out of shape player..love it
He was nimble too
I knew when Kobe said that it was going to cause a media shitstorm especially in August. 🤦♂️ Kobe even looked like he wanted to take that back after it came out.
Kobe was just being honest whether it slipped out or not.
@@MoetChandonHollywoodlifestyles he was always honest that's why people didnt like him
He was in great shape in Orlando, got swept by the dream.
Kobe cared about winning as much, if not more, than any basketball player who ever lived.
For a couple years there he was the GOAT. In 00 and 01 it was like watching a man play against 6 year olds. He did whatever the f*ck he wanted, and nobody could touch him. I remember times where three different players would tie him up in the paint, and he'd take all three of em up with him to dunk the ball.
In 00 he was one vote shy of being the first unanimous mvp in league history. I believe he's still the only person to win the regular season, allstar, and finals mvps, as well as a scoring title in a single season.
When Shaq was at his best, he was the most dominant player any American professional sport has ever seen. The league was even changing rules to make it easier for guys to play against him.
MJ did it twice, 96 & 98 season, regular season, all stars, finals MVPs and of course the scoring title
@@reginaldarevalo2627 and MJ takes it even further, all NBA defense 1st team both years
Shaq is top 5 of all time that’s for sure
Don't reach Young blood facts
He was for about 2 seasons
4TH GREATEST EVER LETS BE REAL YALL ONLY A SELECT FEW WERE BETTER BARELY MJ BEANS AND LEBRON REAL CHOP
Top 9 for me
I have him 6.
Reminds me of Andre’s line in Princess Bride: “It’s not my fault being the biggest and the strongest. I don’t even exercise”.
Been waiting on this all day
Things happened the way the should have. Kobe did something amazing. People told Kobe he was carried to his championship and he couldn't win after Shaq left. Kobe did the impossible and proved he could do it on his own years later. He went to 3 finals, l less than with Shaq and won 2, 1 less than with Shaq. He truly proved something.
Tell me what did Shaq do after Kobe?
“Sponsored by Burger King” now that’s great brand placement!
The Mail Man is the best example of a big man's work ethics.
Kobe was always Kobe. When he was young. He didn't magically become Kobe cuz Shaq was there. If Kobe had his own team since he was drafted like Lebron, he wouldve had all the scoring records.
Yea but at what cost he would of won how many for this sake of argument he would have 5 scoring titles 3 mvps and no championship knowing Kobe( rest his soul) he Jordan and lebron were driven to win championship the other things the mvps the scoring titles , the Dpoty to those type of players were after thoughts 🤷🏾♂️
@@jspi04 he won two after Shaq left, how do u get to no rings? I think he would have 3 maybe 4 instead of 5 if Shaq was never his teammate.
@@anthonyo455 no we were doing the hypothetical and we switch lebron and Kobe I’m saying because the owner never built the team around lebron that could be a issue for Kobe and how long did it take the Cavs to draft someone good after lebron
To be fair to Kobe, kobe never had a problem with shaq dominating. Kobe didn’t have a problem til he saw shaq not working hard any more. That’s when the clash began with him and shaq.
Shaq was the most dominate player ever, so Kobe’s not lying
Wilt was, not Shaq.
@@Minimal444 *THAT'S TOUGH* I'll take Wilt though. More skilled.
Na that's wilt
Wilt
Why does today's generation not know the word is "dominant"? I see this everywhere. "He is so dominate". No, that's wrong. Dominate is a verb. ie. "Shaq would dominate Wilt." The word you're looking for is "dominant".
4:50, Lord did have mercy on the NBA. That's why Shaq kept gaining weight
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Shaq was unstoppable man...no one ever dominated the bottom of the court like he did
Shaq was in love with his Big Mac 🍔🍔🍔
Give me Kobe over Lebron any day of the week, dude had that killer instinct
Facts
Montez Demarrco there’s plenty more boyyyy
Khalid Garbiya what else
@@user-yn7uz9go5q 12 time all defense 🤷♂️🤷♂️
And LeBron has more playoff buzzer beaters🤷🏾♂️
Great point
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Robin never getting his own movie is a pretty good analogy
Anuj Singh Unless you count Knight Wing, but he was no longer Robin...
I know Kobe was exaggerating, but realistically they may have gotten 5, maybe 6 chips. And this was before the NBA was about to change.
The NBA doesn't change if Shaq stayed Shaq.
The Pistons and Celtics WOULD NOT survive against a healthy, in shape Shaq... That's 7 bruh!!!
If they win 5, Shaq wins 5 FMVPS. If they win 11, Shaq wins 11 FMVPS.
I think if prime Shaq had prime D-Wade he would have won more titles than he did with Kobe.
The interview that this is based on is pretty crazy. It’s a recent one that is posted on youtube. Like an hour long, and this one point was so minor in it. Many more impactful comments.
At their most dominant, in '01, Shaq averaged 28, Kobe...28. The playoffs that year Shaq averaged 30, Kobe 29. Stop it already.
Shaq and Kobe duo is more dominant than pippen and mj
Had the potential to be but shaq didn't care about training
Don’t forget Rodman was a monster on the boards and defence in the 2nd run
0:11 no thats wilt chamberlain, shaq just the most dominate center during 1998-2010s
From 1992
@@broughammoore6168 na hakeem in the early 90s
@@Coldskin1 Hakeem was never dominant
@@melvynsngltn27 hakeem won 2 nba finals in the early 90s and even swept shaq in the finals in one of thoes runs around during the bulls championship era. Easily best center during that time. And you say wasb Dominate?
@@Coldskin1 early 1990's you mean mis 90's 1994 was one of the weakest years in NBA history. How come he didn't go to the finals in 1993, 1992, 1991 please
This just reminded me in good burger when they said Shaq just made the game winning shot in the finals n asked him what he’d do next n he said get some food n ordered a good burger
Just look at how in shape he was in Orlando he even had a game where he had 15 blocks
😆Shannon said that statement with great analyzing Kobe Shaq Batman and robin
If you stay ready you wont have to get ready.
-Shannon Sharpe
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Robin did have his own TV show. It's called Teen Titans and it was frickin amazing
The batman and robin point was smooth af
Shaq was Physically gifted, but had a horrible work ethic!
Kobe is Kobe, not because he was gifted, but because of his Work ethic.
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Yea if kobe didn't have his work ethic I font he would have been no where near the top 10 list. Yes he was athletic but so were Vince Carter, Jason Richardson, Steve Francis, T-Mac, Stephon Marbury, Baron Davis, etc. Etc. Injuries also played part in that discussion too but Kobe was lowkey injury prone. He just was stubborn and played through everything.
Kobe was gifted. Look at his speed, size and jumping ability. Not to mention hand size. Now all that can get you into the nba, but Kobe got himself everything else through work.
@@gregorysimpson5032 oh for sure he's definitely gifted but I just don't think he's gifted on the level of Shaq and Lebron or MJ
@@gregorysimpson5032 Kobe said it in a interview he couldn't control the ball like Dr J Jordan and Vince Carter...Kobe💪 was foot speed
I don't agree with Kobe having 12 rings but I do believe Shaq would've been the G.O.A.T. if he had the work ethic of Kobe. Shaq was the most unstoppable force I have ever seen.
They would have dominated the league until Shaq late years, which is around 2010s. That would mean another 4,5 Final Appearance and rings to both of them. So year, 12 rings would be a stretch, but I could possibly see 7,8 rings.
I feel like they never give the goat title to centers.
When Kobe talks, you listen. King of basketball.
I think they forgot Wilt Chamberlain was a person. Benched 600 lbs, could run faster than anyone on the floor, and even led the league in assist one year. Total monster even later in his career he was better than everyone.
If I had one pick ever to start a team...it would be Shaq
I would start my team with shaq over any1
Another thing they did not mention in this video that held Shaq back from being the greatest was injuries. Shaq missed a lot of games due to injuries. I read an article in which Shaq said that he missed 250 about games due to injury. I also think his free throw shooting hurts Shaq when considering him as the greatest. Shaq's career free throw percentage was only 52.7%. Shaq's weight and bad free throw shooting may have exasperated his injury problem, because opposing teams would Hack a Shaq, because of his poor free throw shooting.
Shannon said something profound - I play the game for free, they pay me to put on all that weight and run me into the ground. This man understands health
Hella respect from Kobe
Great point by Shannon. Maybe 5 titles but zero MVPs for Kobe had Shaq done what was suggested.
I think if they wouldve won 6 titles kobe wouldve had 2 of those finals mvps, dudes numbers wasnt doing nothing but going up
@@mannydahitman313 exactly, Shannon and these niqqas dumb Kobe was just entering his prime and Shaq was getting older… Kobe would’ve been winning fmvp
LeBron gets flamed for saying he needs a playmaker, Kobe gets defended for challenging the work ethic of a top 10 player all time. both can be valid, but only one is acceptable because LeBron gets so much hate.
Rusty Shackleford there is a reason, to point out the hypocrisy of Kobe fans who constantly bash LeBron vocally criticizing his teammate.
Kobe was speaking truth, it’s not a diss it’s a compliment.
Shaq had them good burgers on call. "Tastes good , taste real good"
I say 8 rings and every title from 04 on Kobe would have been finals mvp because it wasn't only weight but age lead to his end because he was drafted in 92 which means by 04 he's already 12 years in and big men don't last that long in that era and also due to the way the game was changing Kobe was perfect for his era and he would probably have more mvps because he wouldn't have to carry bad teams or worry about schemes as much as it's mostly to hide not so good players I might say even 10 rings was possible
Not if he took care of his body. With all his money he could have listed as long as Malone did.
You do realize shaq won a title in 06 right?
I agree 8 then probably they’d break up. Way too much desire to be dominant
anthony bryant Malone wasn't 7ft or over 300 pounds and like I said age was gonna catch up regardless
Leland Joseph idk where you looked that up but they were favored in the three peat yes the east was weak and in 04 I guess but due to many factors they weren't ever gonna win that one and in 08 the Celtics were favored than in 09 and 10 Kobe was just better than everyone that's why they were favored take Kobe off any of the Lakers team past 05 your looking at a lottery team but most people didn't really watch basketball during that time because everyone knew whoever came out the west was the most beat up teams as it was the toughest conference for a long time and Kobe dominated it when he actually had decent players around him
But the beef was cuz Kobe wanted Shaq to work harder so how unc?
And cause he snitched
HandleGod Brice yea that too 😂
So Kobe was right, it was about the beef.....and the bun and the lettuce. You think fries were involved?
Michael Harris tacos and burritos too 🤦🏾♂️
FerrariFatBoy it wasn’t just that. It was also because shaq was getting all the credit. Kobe even said in their sit down together that he didn’t want to be remembered as someone that only won because of shaq
I wasn’t a lakers fan when shaq was playing for the lakers but I luv the guy. Even more with the Magic playing with penny.
Beautiful show today. No need to explain.
Kobe: I said it to his face
Media: I’m about to end this whole mans retirement.
Ps: media toxic asf