The main selling point between 330D and 335D is not that it has more power with the second turbo and/or gets more power with a tune. The point is, that those turbos work staggered along the rev band and therefore deliver a very linear powerband compared to the (stock) single turbo ones which top out at around 3,5k rpm. the twin turbo has a smaller turbo for the lower revs and a big one that only really picks up at above 3k. it has a very gasoline/NA type of feel up there as more rev brings more power instead of dropping off the cliff like most single turbo diesels do. the added horsepower is just a bonus. I had both an E90 325D and a E92 335D both models from 2011.
I'm torn between one of these bad boys or a 330d because of the manual option. Why they didn't sell these with a self swapper is just criminal, I know the old "too much torque" line but it's a BMW! How they couldn't just beef up the manual box to fit this is mind blowing as they would of sold many more than they did with the slob-box only. To me it's not the ultimate driving machine without a spot of heel and toe.
I own a stage 1 330d M57 with a manual with 625 Nm and 270 hp. New stock clutch and dual mass flywheel and it's insane. No delay, instant power on the roll. Clutch and flywheel are still fine after 90.000 km's. Very reliable, very very fast i love it. Finest car i ever had.
A few things: these cars are NOT M3s nor should we compare them to them except as competition. An M3 is all about the revs; high rpms for the horsepower. The Ds are not high reving but are torque monsters; torque being the other half of the power equation. A 335d's power band lasts longer and more consistently through ALL gears and doesn't let off until well over 130 mph and even higher for tuned examples. And M3's power band starts to taper off at about 120mph giving a335d and advantage over longer distances. These cars don't have to be M3s, they are M3 killers in a straight away races especially if tuned and deleted. Where an M3 is better is in their cornering. A 335 of any spec is not as agile or grippy, BUT like mine, if you install M3 control arms, performance shocks, and springs and anti-sway bars, it performs in corners the same. Even with all the mods to make them better than M3s all around, it still will be more affordable going this route than getting a used M3 of the same era.
salaam bro great review i have the same car which ive owned for the last 5 years. still amazes me how this car was so fast when launched 15 years ago. mine is stage 1 pushing 360bhp and still smokes stock golf rs s3s like u said its that torque wat makes this engine so fast when that big turbo kicks in the car turns into a rocket.
Great car and looks nice in black. No need to remap these, they perform insanely well without. Mine was remapped (well over 300bhp) when I bought it and I had it converted back to its original 286bhp. It was overboosting and messed up the electronics with the gearbox with the mapping so I'd probably advise against it.
Probably the most sensible thing anyone has said on RUclips. I have the 535d lci and everyone I know in my area with the same car mapped has has small turbo issues, injector and hp' fuel pump problems, timing chain failure's, diff problems, the list goes on lol. The only thing different on mine is the gearbox is reflashed to give an instant change on paddle shift in sport, standard 286bhp 580nm torque and most 300bhp hot hatches can't touch me from 0 to 100mph on private roads lol😛
You have to map it to delete it, it makes it more reliable deleted and tuned, egr scr ,flaps, DPF delete requires a map, to me it sounds like a personal tune issue you had, never in my life have I heard a tune issue messing up the car/ transmission
With a filter delete and remap you get 360hp and 10mpg improvement. To really make it an M3 rival take it to birds bmw near heathrow. B1 handling kit, tyres and Quaffe LSD. If you track it also get brakes upgraded. I didnt get the brakes done. Overall it becomes faster than the V8 M3 with much better tank range and better handling & traction. Mine has 340,000 on the clock in the last 12 years.
@@HighMiler330d after the lci update mid 2008 i think they had the new N57 efficient dynamics engine. 360hp is only with a filter emmision delete and a remap. But the biggest gains are from Birds suspension upgrade and LSD. So much extra traction, grip on bumpy roads, turn in balance. Extra braking stability on bumpy or slipery asphalt.
@@hungrysurfer9471 all e90 335d has the m57. 330d are n57 from mid 2008 on. Both of mine are m57. And yes i know mine is just stage 1 at 360bhp. I want to go for more power in the future.
@@HighMiler330d Well done on reaching 317k 👍. If you service it early with fresh oil every 8000 to 10,000 miles, the N57 has potential to reach 1,000,000 km. Its well worth deleting the swirl flaps and all emmision filters... Cat egr dpf all clogg up the engine with black carbon soot. Premium Shell or BP diesel gradually cleans the engine and fuel system over time. Mine is now on 346,000 with original 14 years old fuel pump and injectors thanks to premium fuel. .
@@hungrysurfer9471 thanks . Again mine m57 not n57. And yes all are already deleted. 346k is even better than my 317. These engines will last forever if looked after.
This video makes me proud to own a e90 335d 💪🏼
Proud owner of a deleted and tuned M57
@@jarocdidthisbeat deleted
Poor car
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@@hondamanvtec2894 ??????
Shiiiiitttt I just bought one yesterday
For sale ? , I want one
I've got an 06 335D remapped dpf/egr delete, I love it, Shocked a few boy racers 🤣
Great car. I can only imagine the benefits of the remap. It would make the car crazily fast!
The main selling point between 330D and 335D is not that it has more power with the second turbo and/or gets more power with a tune. The point is, that those turbos work staggered along the rev band and therefore deliver a very linear powerband compared to the (stock) single turbo ones which top out at around 3,5k rpm.
the twin turbo has a smaller turbo for the lower revs and a big one that only really picks up at above 3k. it has a very gasoline/NA type of feel up there as more rev brings more power instead of dropping off the cliff like most single turbo diesels do. the added horsepower is just a bonus.
I had both an E90 325D and a E92 335D both models from 2011.
My wife had a 2009 335d and it was so quick.
I agree I will never sell my 335d its my favorite car to drive!!
Brought one 2 months ago e90 335d LCI 37k on the clock £12k well worth it
I'm torn between one of these bad boys or a 330d because of the manual option. Why they didn't sell these with a self swapper is just criminal, I know the old "too much torque" line but it's a BMW! How they couldn't just beef up the manual box to fit this is mind blowing as they would of sold many more than they did with the slob-box only. To me it's not the ultimate driving machine without a spot of heel and toe.
I own a stage 1 330d M57 with a manual with 625 Nm and 270 hp. New stock clutch and dual mass flywheel and it's insane. No delay, instant power on the roll. Clutch and flywheel are still fine after 90.000 km's. Very reliable, very very fast i love it. Finest car i ever had.
A few things: these cars are NOT M3s nor should we compare them to them except as competition. An M3 is all about the revs; high rpms for the horsepower. The Ds are not high reving but are torque monsters; torque being the other half of the power equation. A 335d's power band lasts longer and more consistently through ALL gears and doesn't let off until well over 130 mph and even higher for tuned examples. And M3's power band starts to taper off at about 120mph giving a335d and advantage over longer distances. These cars don't have to be M3s, they are M3 killers in a straight away races especially if tuned and deleted.
Where an M3 is better is in their cornering. A 335 of any spec is not as agile or grippy, BUT like mine, if you install M3 control arms, performance shocks, and springs and anti-sway bars, it performs in corners the same.
Even with all the mods to make them better than M3s all around, it still will be more affordable going this route than getting a used M3 of the same era.
Chill out mat
@@georgekyriacou9331 bruh, I'm super chill. You must've been triggered by words. Please...5ake your own advise.
@@matthewbittenbender9191 I could tell you weren't triggered, that was just a very good objective comment.
salaam bro great review i have the same car which ive owned for the last 5 years. still amazes me how this car was so fast when launched 15 years ago. mine is stage 1 pushing 360bhp and still smokes stock golf rs s3s like u said its that torque wat makes this engine so fast when that big turbo kicks in the car turns into a rocket.
Wsalaam. Thanks for your comment. Great engine with lots of torque. Needs to be well maintained though. Definitely a fast car!
4 pot 320d has a nice bit of torque this 335d must be phenomenal.
Indeed mate
Great car and looks nice in black. No need to remap these, they perform insanely well without. Mine was remapped (well over 300bhp) when I bought it and I had it converted back to its original 286bhp. It was overboosting and messed up the electronics with the gearbox with the mapping so I'd probably advise against it.
Still feels very modern to drive to be honest. Sub £10k - highly recommended
Probably the most sensible thing anyone has said on RUclips. I have the 535d lci and everyone I know in my area with the same car mapped has has small turbo issues, injector and hp' fuel pump problems, timing chain failure's, diff problems, the list goes on lol. The only thing different on mine is the gearbox is reflashed to give an instant change on paddle shift in sport, standard 286bhp 580nm torque and most 300bhp hot hatches can't touch me from 0 to 100mph on private roads lol😛
You have to map it to delete it, it makes it more reliable deleted and tuned, egr scr ,flaps, DPF delete requires a map, to me it sounds like a personal tune issue you had, never in my life have I heard a tune issue messing up the car/ transmission
Always loved this era of 3 series and especially that spec (w then wheels etc). Rlly want one 😍
Buying one today can't wait 286 bhp 580 nm.is acutally insane numbers!!
Easy to get these 400+
Best review of e90 I ever watched !
Thanks mate!
I’ve got a e92 335d coupe stage 1, when you map these cars they go crazy, very good video , well presented, keep up the good work 👍
Thank you mate. As I said a remapped 335d would be immense!
Hi I think to buy 2012 e92 335d DCT sport plus education.
And remap.
How many BHP do you have now
@@arturforever2060 350bhp and 695nm torque
@@Wezcov I was asking one garage and them set can do for me stage 2 for 380BHP🙆♂️🙆♂️🙆♂️
@@arturforever2060 depends on mileage, a good map will take mileage of the car into consideration; lots of info on e92 forum
I have a 09 330d auto, very curious to feel the difference in performance compared with 335d, beautiful car.
Remap yours to 300bhp and you’ll see lol
Masz n57 awaryjny silnik
Nice car, great video. Makes me miss my e39 530d sport from a few years back. ,
Oh yes.....I remember that one! That was when BMW was in its heyday with its design! Hope you still enjoying your S8!
It is if you convert it to 6 speed manual, then it's the car BMW should have sold.
With a filter delete and remap you get 360hp and 10mpg improvement. To really make it an M3 rival take it to birds bmw near heathrow. B1 handling kit, tyres and Quaffe LSD. If you track it also get brakes upgraded. I didnt get the brakes done. Overall it becomes faster than the V8 M3 with much better tank range and better handling & traction. Mine has 340,000 on the clock in the last 12 years.
M57 for you i have a 330d on 317k and also a 335d on 120 baby miles
@@HighMiler330d after the lci update mid 2008 i think they had the new N57 efficient dynamics engine. 360hp is only with a filter emmision delete and a remap. But the biggest gains are from Birds suspension upgrade and LSD. So much extra traction, grip on bumpy roads, turn in balance. Extra braking stability on bumpy or slipery asphalt.
@@hungrysurfer9471 all e90 335d has the m57.
330d are n57 from mid 2008 on.
Both of mine are m57.
And yes i know mine is just stage 1 at 360bhp. I want to go for more power in the future.
@@HighMiler330d Well done on reaching 317k 👍. If you service it early with fresh oil every 8000 to 10,000 miles, the N57 has potential to reach 1,000,000 km. Its well worth deleting the swirl flaps and all emmision filters... Cat egr dpf all clogg up the engine with black carbon soot. Premium Shell or BP diesel gradually cleans the engine and fuel system over time. Mine is now on 346,000 with original 14 years old fuel pump and injectors thanks to premium fuel.
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@@hungrysurfer9471 thanks . Again mine m57 not n57. And yes all are already deleted.
346k is even better than my 317. These engines will last forever if looked after.
Get in there mate! 💪💪💪
Thanks mate
Loving the content 💪🏼💪🏼
Thanks mate.....let me know what you think of my impressions as you sir own a M3 V8....how we can still remain friends lol
@@DownShiftThrottle With a few part changes and a remap, a good driver can give the M3 a run for its money 🤣💪🏼
I got mine today
The other rare diesel BMW to look at is the Alpina D3 Biturbo
Oooh now that really is a rarity! I actually think the Alpina D3 BiTurbo is cooler than a E90 M3!
@@DownShiftThrottle 100% and so rare. The new B3 BiTurbo also looks immense but list almost as much as an M5!
Ouch.....that's pricey.....no wonder they're rare.....
@@DownShiftThrottle 2 available on auto trader right now .... one for £85k and another for £90K!
If I sell my M4.....and my kidney may be do-able.....what you reckon? Or both kidneys? 😂
I dont know which car is a better buy. An e60 535d or e90 335d.
Both run the same engine and drivetrain. Just depends on what you want....a 5 series or a 3 series
2:03 are the seats on fire 😂
Lol it's a diffuser
2:01 why is smoke coming off the the top of the driver seat?😂
Its the air humidifier
Nice wid.
Fank you!
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