Will it start? FORGOTTEN “death row” massey 1800 sitting 20 years with a locked motor
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2024
- I saved another masterpiece from the crusher! Now, can I get this Massey running with a seized motor after 20 years?
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JT I'm 72 years old and I still get that smile on my face when the sound of that first start happens. Doesn't matter tractor or truck,. newly rebuilt or old locked up.. I have an imported Massy with the Perkins engine in it that I bought new in 1987. Because of my job it sat for 12 years and was locked up. It was my first project when I retired. Was a sweet sound when she popped off. Lessen learned "Don't Give up "
Right on! Persistence pays!
@@jtsbarnngrill6873 to prime the fuel system get a assistant to hold a air line in the fuel fill opening on the tank with a shop rag to seal it & pump air into the fuel tank to push the fuel through the filter / system while you crank the engine over until it starts .
You can also put a airline adapter and short hose on the fuel tank to pump a little bit of air just enough to pressurize the tank to move the fuel through the system if you don't have a assistant available , if you do that leave the filler cap on to keep fuel from blowing out .
Never gets old!!
@@craigalston2208yes put air in the fuel tank
The Perkins V type configuration was nothing to brag about from DAY ONE at all !
I love how the nest flew out the exhaust
Well done JT!! 👋👋 You brought this old 1800 back to life.... What emotion when I heard the CAT roar!! Thank you again for giving us all this
Glad you enjoyed it!
I remember my Uncles having one late 70s early 80s that had a cat they put a hole in the block and the neighbor stitched the block back together in the field with a generac welder and a torch they finished using it and was replaced think it was an 1804 than they got a 4840 and a 4900 but them had Cummins 903 and Detroit 60 the Cats didn't appreciate the fuel pump being turned up
The 4000 series had the 903 V-8 Cummins. The series after the 1800 was 1805.
@@halwilliams1682 they had 4840 and a 4880 one I thought was a Detroit I think the other was a Cummins but the 1800 was definitely a cat that blew a hole in the block
@@halwilliams1682 Hall you where correct it was an 1805 they didn't like that one but every one the had always had the fuel pump turned up they originally wanted a Steiger but the what was to long so the went Massey they where great tractors could have about 100 foot of implements behind them and they'd just go same with chisel plowing
Love seeing these old machines being brought back to life rather than being dragged into the scrap yard, well done sir.
Thank you!
Me too
@@jtsbarnngrill6873 _Mean Machine!_ Looks and sounds fantastic - be perfect if it was top notch mechanically but still looking exactly as it does now.
Thank's for saving the old iron, the world should thank you!
You my friend are either the luckiest bastard I've ever seen or just that damn good. Now on to the fun part fixing everything
Maybe a little of both 😉😆
“You mess with the bull…” lol! 😂 Loved the mass ejection upon starting! 👍🏻
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That had a lot of stuff in that big rotted muffler lol
@@jtsbarnngrill6873looked like a birds nest. They will have to find another home! Looked like another one inside the air cleaner. Fluffy might check on that for you!
Mass ejaculation from the bulls nuts 😂
Starting to look like a Massey only farm. Next thing will be an 860 combine. Looks like a decent old tractor that needs a little TLC. Another Great Video. Thanks for taking us along on the adventure. Have a good weekend.
Thanks! You as well!
My goodness JT , job well done . Made your day and everyone else that watched it happen .
I hope so!
Back in 1983 my father and I went to an auction where the farmer was selling out due his health issues. He bought all his tractors new. I got a Massey 1100 diesel for 1600 dollars. He had a couple more super slick ones that sold really cheap. One was a MF1805 with really low hours and duals that sold for 4000 dollars, and a equally nice 1105 low hours for 4000 dollars. You have remember it was during the farm crisis. There wasn’t much money moving around. I remember my father regretting that he didn’t buy the 1105. I was getting 4-4.50 per bushel for soybeans back then, so no one was really getting rich. If I knew then what I know today 40 years later, I wouldn’t have never wasted my money on grain farming. Live and learn!
What would you have farmed instead? Out of curiosity
@@BriggsStratton11 we had registered Santa Gertrudis cattle and hay and soybeans back then, but I thought I could make it work on the grain side when my dad had a stroke and I had to take over his operation at 14 until I graduated high school, when he totally recovered. I left a lot of sweat and effort in the eighties trying to make it work. I took over the farming totally and purchased a 120 hp Tractor and a combine and was strapped with the bean prices being so low and trying to pay for the equipment at that age. The drought of 88 pretty much killed my operation for a few years until I got a new foot hold in 96. I was a career field mechanic, and I farmed and ran cattle on the side. I have failed more times than I have succeeded, and have adjusted my operation quite a few times due to market conditions. It’s been something else. And now 40 years later I’m almost out of business again after two years of extreme drought and the lack of forage, and the heat making my herd abort and stringing out my calving windows and making them skip entirely. I’m not sure if I would do any of it again. A lot of cash, sweat and dreams dashed.
@@LukeLong-oi4uc Let's hope the next 40 years are much better and easier! Have a good day
@@LukeLong-oi4uc thats a crazy story man
Tye easiest way to make a small fortune in farming is to start out with a big one.
Incredible! Another "Old Soul" saved from the Brink of Death 💀. Hopefully we'll see it working this spring. It would be cool if you could get one of your friends and have the 1800 and the 1805 working side by side for one video. What a Sight that would be! Just a thought, get every fuel and oil additive you trust and pour in that tractor. Then start it and let it run for 30 minutes or so once a week while you make it ready to go back to work. That way, it's first time back to work won't be a "Shock" and put to much stress on anything. Young Man, you make me look forward to Spring 🌱. Stay Safe and God Bless 🙏👍🇺🇲🚜
I like that idea! I’d love to see them both running together!
You know. A lot of that metal is still in really good shape. So excited! Nice job!
Thanks!
"Massey Kardashian" Lol !!!🤣 She runs sweet for a tractor that hasn't run for a long time! Well, done JT! That tractor is pretty straight & definitely worth saving!
Right on! Thanks!
When it comes to getting these old tractors running that others have given up on your the man!
Thanks! Appreciate that!
That’s quite the massive Ferguson. Good job breathing new life into it. Will be a fun project, I’m sure!
Indeed! Now to start rounding up parts lol
You’re going to need a bigger shed. lol Love the old Massey coming back to life.
Well done! Back in the day I had nothing but good luck with the Cat "throw away V8s", both the 3160 and 3208 in the old Steigers and White 4-180. Congratulations on your diagnostic skills and "stic
ktoitiveness".
I think the trick with those old Cats is to not overload them. They run fast and the rod bearings don't seem to hold up if pushed too hard. I never pull mine over about 2500 rpm and keep the load reasonable. It's only a couple hundred HP.
Thanks!
These motors have been good to me, but I don’t work the pi$$ out of them either lol
@@jtsbarnngrill6873 yep....you got it JT. The Cat only has 3 gallon of oil in it vs 5 gallons on my Case that is half as much HP. The Case runs almost 1000 rpm slower. Oil cools the engine.
JT When I was in high school I worked on a farm with A 1800 on it. I put a lot of hours in it and when you change the fuel filter all you did was take the bleeder cap off and crank the engine over until fuel came squirting out. It was good to hear that engine run.
That tractor wrecker is getting some business!
Right! It’s good to have friends like that!
@@jtsbarnngrill6873. I’ve never seen anything like this before. Quite unique.
Lovely sound. Engine sounds remarkably sweet 👍👍
Absolutely brilliant. Made me smile when she fired up. That's gonna be a very good strong tractor once all the exhaust rot changed for good metal,
Thanks!
Massey Ferguson 1800 Production
Manufacturer: Massey Ferguson
Factory: Matsuyama, Japan
Years Built: 1971 - 1974
Massey Ferguson 1800 Engine
Caterpillar 3160, diesel, 8-cylinder, liquid-cooled, 636 ci [10.4 L]
Power: 59 hp [44.0 kW]
Drawbar: 171.37 hp [127.8 kW]
Bore: 4.50×5.00 inches [114 x 127 mm]
Air Cleaner: dry
Compression: 16.5:1
Rated RPM: 2800
Starter volts: 12
Just wanted to say thanks for saving another great tractor I grew up with these and so many good memories of my childhood hot days in the cabs long hours but I wouldn't change anything just wish I was near by would be a treat to drive one again well done keep up the good work 😀
Thanks! I appreciate that!
Another good score JT. It's nice to see Fluffy back on the job.
You got that right!
We had a cat just like that on the farm in the sixties, her name coincidentally was Fluffy. You are doing a good job fixing that big Fergie, I’ll bet that could pull a few furrows. All it needs is a new drivers seat and it will be ready to get back to work. all the best from England .ps call the tractor “ Big Fluffy.” It’s a darling.
We were row crop farmers and had a cat that loved to ride on the tractor as we picked
Way to go JT ! You got it running !
I like this. Massey Ferguson is a valuable brand. It's nice to see different tractors.
Thank you J T . Love your videos. M F old tractors the best ever . Thanks bud
Glad you like them!
Back to life ! Love it !!
Excellent work!
Excellent video JT :) also would get for Massey Ferguson 1800 new oil filter, Air Filter, Fuel filters, some GM Automatic Transmission fluid 200 ml in fuel tank run thru so lube in injection pump, also injectors to and whole ! Plus get grey bottle of STP Total Treatment fuel injection and carb cleaner in fuel tank to ! Plus nickname it After Life because come back life when fixing up and do more fix too ! Plus take starter out get cleaned up and rebuild too totally new it save from sticking and run flywheel too! Electrical fix also gauges you be all set running in feilds! Yes tire lots beef on them ! Hopefully see dig more to soon and repairs too in future videos too! You did super well on this so far and not giving up!
Thanks! Got a long way to go but she’ll be good in the end!
@@jtsbarnngrill6873 welcome JT :)
You are the man. Great hearing it running.
Congrats to you sir! Glad to see it fired up.
Man you really can't kill a Massey. Such an awesome machine.
Fantastic! Had my doubts but you prevailed! I like seeing old iron going again.
I almost threw in the towel on that one lol
Great project!
Sweet! Can't wait to watch you transform it
Your persistence was rewarded! It roared to life!!!!
Persistence paid off!
YEEHAW!!! that was super Well done JT looking forward to the rest of the project! r
Well done sir.
Nice job!!
That thing looks like a beast. Great job as always.
Thanks 👍
Late 80's we bought a well used one for tillage. The grunt and pull of that tractor was amazing! Thanks for bringing back memories.
Glad I could 😊
Well done you did it AGAIN 👍👍👍
Very nice JT. Be a great set of resto videos. I look forward to the 1800. Thank you for saving that tractor. I do not care much for the newer stuff.
Right on
Waking up to a JT's video and then going to work nothing better then that to brighten your day great video thank you for sharing
Right on! Thanks!
I really enjoyed that JT. When I was young, I worked on a farm that had mostly Massey Ferguson tractors. They had 4 1105s with duals and 8 1800s and 6 or 8 1805s. I plowed a lot of acres with an 1800 or 1805. IIR, the 1805s had a Cummins, or at least some of them had replacement engines that were Cummins engines. The 1800s had CAT engines. The 1800s ran very wide singles, probably half-again as wide as the tires on your 1800. The 1805s came with duals, but they took off the duals and ran them as narrow singles. It was quite an operation: around 14,000 acres under cultivation divided between rice and soybeans. It was enjoyable working there and your video brought back some good old memories, thanks.
That was quite the fleet of Masseys! Did they swap the 1085s with 8.3 Cummins engines?
That was quite a fleet of Masseys. The farm was owned by a large corporation, and IDK if they had a corporate relationship with Massey Ferguson or there was a local preference. In the area at that time, most large row-crop farms were running IH or Deere. There were a handful of other tractors on the farm at that time to include 3 or 4 propane powered case tractors, 3 or 4 larger Case diesels with duals, maybe 1070s, a big articulated case 4X4 without a ROPS that was frightening to drive because the steering seemed to have a mind of its own and you might find yourself in a flume ditch or an unplanned excursion out through the field. There were also a couple of huge articulated Ford 4 X 4 tractors and after my time, they had 4 or more big Cameco tractors with duals. As far as the Cameco tractors, I never learned the particulars of those, but I think they were monster horsepower CAT powered units, made in Thibodeaux, LA. With recard to the power untis on the 1805s, It has been a minute, but I remember that the tractors originally had engines with the MF insignia on the valve covers, or the side of the engine because it was prominent when you walked by; you might glance over and you would see the MF, but as those engines were replaced, the Cummins engines went in. It may have been a situation with the purchasing agent or chief mechanic had better experience with service or longevity with the Cummins, but I don't recall any of us tractor drivers noting a difference in the performance of the machine with one power plant over the other. @@jtsbarnngrill6873 I appreciate your showing the old Masseys, really brings back memories.
Awesome buddy thanks for sharing
You bet!
Great job getting it started! Now for all the fun stuff! Can't wait to see what is next
Prepare to be amazed. 😉😆😆
You are amazing individual with knowledge and patience. Love your videos.
I appreciate that!
Good job 👏 JT
Update about 2 months later: this is now definitely my favourite RUclips channel. Keep it up JT!
Wow, thanks! I appreciate that!
Great video!!
Love watching your videos! I love the comical comments, and it seems like you always persevere
Thanks! I give it my best!
Well done JT !
I suppose you could call this one "Thurd Feguson" ? 🤣
I could! 😆
REALLY enjoy watching your channel, looking forward to tillage and planting season.
Awesome, thank you!
I'm glad you didn't give up I love it when people rescue old equipment and get them going again the older equipment is so much better than most things they make today and one particular engines that I absolutely love are Detroit diesel engines nothing sounds better than a Detroit and the older Detroit diesel engines are my favorite engines to hear running I look forward to more of your videos I'm just starting to follow you. Keep up the rescue of these classic equipment
Thanks! That’s my plan, glad to have you along!
Nice work JT.
Thanks!
Seeing this come back made me almost as happy as it did you. Well done. 👍🏻
Glad to hear it!
Good video im glad she came to Life it won't be long and you will have another good tractor.
I hope so!
i just love it when they spark into life , what a machine she is , sounds good too
How nice it runs
I think she sounds really good. Like that rebuilt engine is way better than your other clapped out 1805. Plus when you get the pump fixed a five mile down the road jaunt will make ya'll smile. If you put half as wide tires in the rear and double them up she will pull an astonishing amount. Not that I would take her to a tractor pull as that is a fools errand to me. By the bye, you should have built a campfire under the engine Ruzzian style. After about an hour with a small campfire you would have been pleased when she started.
Good one J T . It is good to see the engine come back to life again . Nothing more rewarding . That CAT 3160 engine , sounds sweet .
You got that right!
Took her a minute to pick up that last cylinder but man she smoothed right out
Love the old ag icons excellent video ❤👍👍👍
Wow that thing runs excellent! You would never guess it had been sitting for 20 years. That taking a while to shut off is normal for 3100 series Caterpillars, its due to where the fuel shut off is located. My 2255 with a 3150 does the same thing
Right on. Good to know, figured it was just sticking
AWESOME!!! Never say never. Job well done!!! 🤜🤛
Thanks!
Very, very, very cool. Well done lads.
Thank you kindly!
I have to say JT i am impressed! 20 years sitting and you made that look pretty simple...congrats
I do my best!
You are definitely an optimist! Would love to see the old Massey restored.
Keep watching 😉
Excellent 👍
Love it! Gotta love the way them caterpillar engines purr. Can't wait to this tractor get fixed and restored. Not to many of these old massey tractors here in southeast MN. But i do believe i konw a guy that has a parts machine if you need anything. Keep up the great work!
I’ll keep it in mind! Got a few pieces missing from this one
Hey JT.Was surprised it did start. Now that it is running your return fuel lines/boots could be leaking. Coming off nozzles under valve cover.They will fill crankcase with fuel. Not hard to change. Cat had a kit rubber tubes and bands to reseal.
Good luck with it.
I’ll check those out
thats what leaking@@jtsbarnngrill6873
That is Awesome to hear it run.Hope you Restore it.
That's the plan!
Unbelievable ! This monster is certainly desirable ! Amazing. This engine sounds marvelous!
Thanks! I think she’ll be a runner for me!
I am excited to see how this one turns out nice work getting it running 👍🏼
Thanks! I am too lol
Absolutely awesome 👌
Thank you! Cheers!
Starting fluid!!!!!
Nice work sounds great. Enjoyed your video ill be watching more. Have a good day.
Thanks!
Cool , greetings from Denmark
great job man didnt think if would run best of luck with her thanks again for the videos. matt ireland.
Thanks 👍
It really does sound good
It's alive. Happy for you
I used to drive one of these in Ireland, hard on the scear tubes.
Wow!! Really good job. Can't wait to see it all fixed up and in the field this Spring. I think the more she runs the better it will be. I'm sure you will have her all fixed in no time at all. I'm more of the other red type of guy, and still hoping to see a 4366, but the old Massey's are pretty cool too.
Right on! Never know what I’ll find!
Awesome job JT
Thanks!
JT you’re a lifesaver! In my humble opinion that 1800 looks fantastic with these tyres. In the UK a 1200 was huge in the 70s but compared with this beast wow its an acre eater 👍
I think the 1505 was the biggest in the uk in the mid 70,s,
Right on!
That is a beautiful new project for you
Thanks!
Yes !!
Thats a nice project.
Great!
Greetings.
Thank you! Cheers!
That's great that you got that started after that long. You're going to need more land soon. Awesome video.
You got that right!
@@jtsbarnngrill6873 so is there a reason alot of that series tractors are missing the right hand side panel by the alternator?
I have that panel in the back of my pickup lol. But I agree, most I’ve seen are missing. My 1805 is missing it too
That’s a great video and work…👍
Thanks 👍
This was great 👍
Nice one j.t. you done it again those tractor gods are still helping you out. You do have some luck. Turd 2 is going to look good. From Andy in uk
I sure hope so! 😉
That's awesome keep up the good work!!
Thanks! Will do!
Pretty awesome!
Thanks!
That is sweet Ole tractor
Could listen to that thing idling all day. Gearhead ASMR.
I think I could do the same!
Its Videos Like This That I Truly Enjoy Watching Two Thumbs Up !!!!!
I appreciate that!
From Denmark,
It's just so interesting what you do.
Super cool you got it running.
Thumbs up
Thank you very much!
She was a fighter. Good job!
Thanks!