How to MANAGE MO2's OVERWRITE DIRECTORY - Mod Organizer 2 Guide
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- #ModOrganizer 's #Overwrite mod folder is a source of frustration for new modders and a great tool for those who know how to use it. This is a #GamerPoets How to Mod guide for MO2 and it's Overwrite folder.
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A number of folks asked for help with Mod Organizer 2's Overwrite mod/folder. I hope this helps😉
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Please be a voice actor. If i had the funds i would hire you to voice act a skyrim mod
Hello gamerpoets, I have recently been enjoying some Wabajak model list, and was wondering if this is something that you would consider posting for your community once your Skyrim modeling my way has been completed. Anyway, I hope you’re doing well. Keep up the great work. I’ve been enjoying your channel since the day I found it.
Hey Poet!!!! I'm so glad to be writing you right now!!! You are awesome! I do have a quick question for you. With the xedit sent to overwrite, is it safe for me to throw the xedit backup into the xedit cache folder? I noticed it didn't do it automatically like it did the cache. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't circumventing all my hard work. Thanks.
Hmmm...
It seems that MO2.5beta and/or Starfield aren't jiving with this.
For example, I tried to install "More Ships" from Nexus, which has a direct MO download button.
"No valid game data" and nothing in overwrite when following these steps?
want to play morrowind whit some mods, a massages say's "the game is in Program Files; this may cause issues because it's a special system folder" i'm using steam. morrowind is on C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Morrowind. Mo2 its on C:\Mod Organizer 2. don't no what to do
This guy is the bob Ross of modding.
Happy little mods...
isth he always makes me smile, this guy is so positive!! His wife and future(?) kids are going to be so happy and proud to have him. All his friends too. Gaming and Modding community is better because we have gems like you, Poet
This channel really is such a gem, thank you for all your hard work!
Thanks for hanging out for it = )
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So that's what "Overwrite" is for.
This is the only Mod Tutorial channel I have seen that explains this. And that's why you are the best at what you do.
Thank you!
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GamerPoets is that one guy who lifts a huge weight off your shoulder when modding a game. Blessings to you and your loved ones brother
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"This is why you don't install 100 mods at once.." I feel called out 🤣❤
I never thought about doing it this way. I've always did the 100 mods at once thing, then just sorta.. bundled up all the loose crap in the Overwrite folder into one big ol' mod and threw it at the bottom of the load order. I never knew MO actually kept track of the stuff!
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better than me i never dropped the overwrite in at all
yeah Im just learning about this after installing 388 mods. oops!
You literally are the GOAT of tutorials. I truly believe you could make anything that needs deep extensive explaining entertaining or at least digestible.
I appreciate it 😉
even though most of the time i already know these tweaks and tricks, i am always excited to see a new video by you. there's just something so soothing about your style, like the Bob Ross of modding. thanks for all your hard work and dedication over the years!
Appreciate you stopping in :)
Bob Ross of modding is perfect lol.
hi do you have a video that can teach me how to do properly mod loading and in what load order i should put my mods? i'm lost
There is a sort button and you can download LOOT
3:38 Um..what if I already did that and am now watching a video for how to undo that lol
Hi Michael! Awesome tutorial as always! However this particular issue here has been a huge cause of frustration for me and the reason I never migrated to MO2 from Vortex. How will I know when to drag and drop the files into an existing mod instead of making a mod out of the overwrite folder? Am I missing something obvious?
I turn my adblock off every time I watch this guy. He has AT LEAST 8 charisma.
Man, something is so comforting about the way you approach these tutorials. Makes me at ease and more confident with what I'm doing.
This was very helpful! Thanks for making these videos!
In a little over 4 minutes you explained something that took me hours to learn on my own. MO2 is brilliant and an excellent example of function over form. It ain't as pretty as other mod managers but none can top it for functionality and nearly everything is right there in front of you rather than buried under numerous tabs and windows
glad it helped = )
was very happy when i moved from Vortex to MO2. Vortex looks better, MO2 is much more useful =)
This man's voice is so rich that it could make stars explode
Dude your voice alone is worth $$$
Thanks for such a great explanation! Are there any overwrite files that will be created once you start a new save or whilst playing at some point? Or can I just open and close Skyrim to check each mod?
They are generated after you launch the game with specific new mods installed. Most mods don't generate them. Unless a mod page specifically says files are generated after launch you won't know until it happens.
How do you know when it is appropriate to drag files into the mod they came from and how do you know when it is appropriate to make a new mod instead?
Drag them when you know what mad they came from. You make a new one and keep it near the bottom when you don't know what the files are
Looking good, my dude. And thanks for going back in time and finishing that thumbnail so that I could watch what you were still completing!
Good to see ya man 😉
I did this with sseedit but the created mod itself was in overwrite ? How do I solve this
So you are supposed to launch to menu every time you install a mod and back out to see if it creates anything in overwrite folder? I usually do about 5-10 mods (reading the mod page of course) then pop in for a test, but it seems if I continue with this method, I may end up unsure of which mod is outputting to overwrite. Since overwrite is at the bottom of the list, wouldn't any files in there just win any arguments with mods if left alone? Is this purely for organizational purposes, or could it actually mess things up if left untouched?
At least for fallout 4 I'd say no, which is similar to Skyrim. I had around 400 mods and I'm starting fresh again, but when I did Overwrite was more of a troll in the way of some mods outputting files to the Overwrite directory. So initially I had no clue that some mods were going there. In my case though, they were mods like F4SE, some mod config file, and a tools file for some extension. None of them had conflicts with other mods and were loaded in last, so there was no issue. Like you said, I think making folders for the output in the overwrite files is just for organization. Or in the rare chance it conflicts with a mod.
I still don't understand when to drag&drop and when to make a mod. Is it only .ini files that you drag&drop, and everything else is made in to a mod?
If you look closely the apps he launched from mo2 need to have seperate mods since they are not mods themselves however actual mods with a .esp or .esm or maybe a .esl can just be drag and droped atleast that I what I think
This whole overwrite thing maybe the problem of why my game is unstable even though i (thought) installed everything correctly.
I mean, it can't be helping, but honestly you never know. I just randomly started having the game freeze on me and determined it was the Bashed Patch. I have no idea why, or how, or why it just all of a sudden started freezing after more than a year of running just fine.
can you do one for stalker anomaly non G.A.M.M.A im confused, if i have 100 mods does the mcm need to be at 100 or 0 for priority
is your method universal between the two games.
also do all patches belong at "0" or "100"? like below the game or above.
Wait I need to ask how many mods can I download at once? And why didn't any of the guides I follow mention this extremely important detail about not downloading a hundred mods in a row consecutively? This would've been useful info from the start!
The more mods you add the more likely you will run into (potentially game breaking) conflicts. Generally, all you have to do to resolve these issues is delete a single mod. You won't know what mod is causing issues with your load order if you aren't testing after installing each mod (or a handful of mods).
@@gamerpoets Thank you Poet!
Wow thank you for taking the time to explain this for folks!
Also the new assets look great, you look so nice! What a fun breath of fresh air for your videos. Great work as always! 💕
Thank YOU foxmouse 😉
i just lost all my data and each time i start modding again i make it better and easier, thank you
Thank you for this awesome video, I’m so confused with modding since it’s my first time.
Should I uninstall all my mods and install them one time at a time?
Have you already installed all of your mods in your list, have them active and can now see the overwrite folder with overwhelmingly many files? I believe all you need to do is
1. Delete the files from the overwrite folder
2. Deactivate all of your mods
3. Go through them one by one and launch the game
4. After each launch, check your overwrite folder if it has any new files
5. Do what GamePoets does!
Hope I was able to help and that my answer actually works, heh.
@@youth_kid84 thank you for the help 👍🏼
I uninstalled everything and did exactly what gamerpoets did >.< I was overwhelmed but I feel like I did everything right.
Thanks for the video! Im a bit confused when it comes to some files in my overwrite folder. For ex. I have a folder labeled "scripts" and another labeled "mcm". These two seam rather broad and could apply to a few mods in my load order. I dont want to risk putting them in the wrong slot, any idea?
You could make a Misc Mod to put the files that you aren't sure about in. Open the individual files in those folders. See if there is any hint as to what mod they belong to. It's a,little guess work if you dont keep up with things as you go. It's unlikely to cause you any issues. Just keep that Misc folder towards the bottom.
@@gamerpoets Really appreciate the quick response! I ended up trying to just isolate one mod at a time and created output mods for each of them. (MCM/Nemesis/SKSE) For ex. the MCM file was literally me changing a single keybind. Idk if that was correct but the game seems to be running fine.
i appreciate the work u do BUT this does not explain the "missing masters" error i get in MO2 i litterally put that in the search que and this video came up honestly no content creators cover this error ......the more i use MO2 the more issue arise truly frustrating mod organizer!!!
missing masters has nothing to do with Overwrite. If you're missing masters, you are missing masters. Mod B requires Mod A to work. You have Mod B but not Mod A. Or if you do have it... the load order is incorrect so the game doesn't think its there.
@@gamerpoets thanks for your response im assuming if its the load order then LOOT would solve the issue??? but for some reason MO2 refuses to open loot when i confiigure the exe to open
LOOT can help. Its not a gauruntee though. LOOT is more of a starting place than a final solution. Not every mod can be sorted properly by it (or at least its not always optimal placement). Not sure why it won't open LOOT. You can use the built in Sort button with MO2 (which is LOOT itself, it just doesn't have full features that the app has, such as custom load order rules) to see if helps. Doesn't mean it will be the solution though.
What do i do for CC mods?
As always, a great explanation AND a great new look for you and your videos. I ran into this video as I am finally going to take my 1000 plus mod list to the latest AE version and MO2 from 1.5.97 and Vortex.
I do get how Overwrite helps with your 3 examples, but now I'm starting to deal with the MCM Menu and it's not always obvious which mod has generated the files or where they go:
1) I added the ability of MO2 to handle the (Skyrim Game's) "Root Folder" and I'm unsure where to "place" files from Overwrite that start in the "Root" sub-folder. (can I make a blank mod for this? doesn't seem like that would work...)
2) Sometimes, when I haven't added a mod and am just playing or MCM-ing, a file may appear. Usually, they are in what looks like a folder with a Mod's name. Sometimes though they are in a folder named something like "Interface" and it's not so easy to tell where they should go.
Thanks for any advice.
I would love to see how you organize your left panel
Totally lost with what just happened.
Another great video, you absolute legend! Now, I need a GamePoets widget that pops up and reminds me to clean p my Overwrite folder every time.
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Hey just wanted to say YOU ARE THE BEST - THANK YOU SO MUCH - so simple and straight to the point! ty ty ty!!! just subbed!!!
You’re like that really awesome uncle that knows a bit of everything
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i MAY or MAY NOT have.... installed.... lots of mods before i properly understood MO2.....
I have been avidly watching and following your tutorials.
They are truly amazing!
Thank you for this video as well, I truly appreciate all your hard work.
I was wondering if you might consider creating tutorials on making StarField mods?🙏
Your ability to explain things so well is impressive and I would love to learn from you.
Regardless you have a lifetime subscriber!
Patiently waiting for your next lesson.🧘♀
Thanks again!✌
Hey! Just made the transition from Vortex to MO2, your videos help greatly! Just wanted to ask though, what do I do with F4SE Overwrite files that I can't just drag and drop to Fallout? (MO2 recognizes I have F4SE, but I installed it manually, as a precaution because of Vortex messing up where the files go, should I remove the F4SE files and re-install via MO2? That way I can just do the drag and drop?)
When I update/launch Nemesis three folders are created in the Overwrite folder; "meshes", "Nemesis_Engine" and "scripts".
When I run the game one folder is created in the Overwrite folder; "SKSE".
What should I do with those?
I watched this great tutorial BUT I'm left confused, when I right click a folder, eg: SKSE there is only "New Folder" "Rename" and "delete", no create mod,. I'm not sure if this is because the version of MO@ that Wabberjack list use it different or functions differently
Stupid question, I'm trying to fix overwrites in my game. But also, overwrite isn't showing up at the bottom of my screen, how do I get that to show up. I followed your other video for installing MO2 step-by-step.
Switched from NMM to MO2, and now there are a BUNCH of unmanaged mods. What do I do?
Perchance, good sir can you do a video explaining how to properly mod it so that the main menu is changed with the right sidebar doesn't take up a fourth of the page? I'm not able to find a good tutorial that helps me fix mine :(
you are so underrated. please don't stop doing these videos. your videos are the best and really easy to follow. thank you
Happy that you like them = )
While I am still a little confused since it is my first time modding I thank you for your crisp and clear format.
Your videos has made things so much easier with modding and I greatly appreciate you. However I do have a question, I'm getting into modding for Starfield and I'm having some trouble figuring out how to set up a similar cache folder for overwrite auto dumping since FNIS and SSEedit, to my immediate knowledge, are not available options to add for Starfield. Mainly, so far I'm finding log files that come from my Script Extender. Would I simply create a cache for the script extender similarly to how you created one for SSEedit and it would work the same?
no matter how many times i reinstall the game, i UBE, racemenu, CBBE and other mods always end up overwriting eachother and i dont know what to do..i would appreciate any help :(
Great video! But, umm, thanks to the SSEEdit cache folder, can't we just install our 150 mods at once after we have said cache folder up and active? 😅 I hope so, with my puny mod list, I'd still like anything that saves time.
I wish mo2 would tell you were the generated files come from somehow. I don't always know that files were generated and by the time I check there are a bunch of mystery folders mixed together. It wouldn't be that big of a deal if you could select which files to create a new mod with but as far as I can tell you have to cram the whole overwrite folder into the new mod at once. I gave up and just leave everything in there now. Still seems to work 🤷♂
You completely lost me at around 2:05
'Run the app from within MO2, create your patch...'
Which app? What's a 'patch' and how do I create it?
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There isnt a video anywhere to help with "Cannot start skse64_loader.exe Add an exclusion for Mod Organizer's Installation folder in your antivirus and try again" Which i do have it as so, and when i looked up similar issues, i find issues related to ppl getting the error cause they place the Mod Organizer 2 in their /C while i have mine in a different drive. I dont know what else to do other then redoing everything from scratch and no even being sure if that would fix it. SOS!!
Ok somehow, with thinking hard and using a fos ro dah shout and simply reseting my PC, my game now works, i have no idea why, but i think it still be a good video to understand how to avoid the antivirus from think your game is a virus and how to fix it in more then one way then just adding it to exclusion. (what i think i did that may have worked, is i deleted the current exclusion then rewrote it as a Process and not a file or folder, then reset my PC. but im not 100% that was the reason it works now)
Also, i love your videos, sooooo easy to mod and understand what im doing, your EXETREMELY helpful and kind and chill. Plz continue.
Can you do a video on getting FO4 creation kit to run through mod organiser 2? I know the theory, but I get the application load error 65432 - using an overwrite code for the executable has one of two problematic effects:
1) Simply doesn't work
2) It makes CK work, but its now not instanced correctly through mod organiser, i.e. if you save a mod, no files appear in your overwrite and instead appear in the vanilla FO4 folder.
Its driving me crazy, tons of people have this problem, and there is no clear answer on a fix.
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I love your channel, I made sure to subscribe! I have been trying to replace meshes/sounds for Dogmeat using MO2 and for the life of me can't get it to work. I have no problem getting Plugins to work, and I see that the files are there in the Data Tab, but on launching the game, nothing for Dogmeat changes. Is there something different that must be done for meshes/new sounds to load?
do you have a video that explains “no game data found”? it becomes italics with a red x. i’m downloading fully manual. i’m not downloading nexus straight to mo2 because it won’t work for some reason
Your videos saved me massive headaches doing a heavily modded skyrim build last year.
Recently going back to Vortex for a FO4 collection mod run, made me realize how much better MO2 really is!
Though, I do have to say I was surprised how easy the collection was to setup and get playing.
Less headaches are good :)
I saw someone was working on a mod that converts Vortex collections to MO2 but haven't gotten around to trying it yet
You are such huge help for a new-ish player(started about a year ago and still haven't beatn Alduin). Also you have a very calming voice.
Could you make a video explaining how to get parallax textures to work? There’s few videos and they have conflicting information. Following each one step by step I’ve been unable to get the textures to work or look correctly.
What an incredibly clear, concise explainer. Thank you so much. Fantastic video!
i saw you archived the SSEDIT functionality for skyrim , i started a new playtrough with 1500+mods and atleast 500 are patches , i think i have to use SSEDIT but dunno how,please can you redo the video on my cases? thanks
Im still so confused lol. Started using MO2 yesterday, I used Vortex before but my game kept on crashing to desktop.
So... Ive managed to figure out how to install MO2, created an instance blablabla, linked nexus and know how to add mods via Nexus.
Now I'd like to add two things: firstly I want to several mods that are only downloadable via the bethesda mod ingame menu, how do I do that?
Secondly I'd like to know does this tutorial counts for F4SE for Fallout 4? I am literally at loss right now hahah, both frustrated and fascinated at the same time, I have a lot to learn... Modding isnt just downloading mods through a link like I used to do it via Vortex. MO2 is a whole different ballgame.
I know this video is a bit old and don't know if I'll get a reply, but I got a problem. I've been used to creating a new mod for overwrite files for awhile but lately certain mods I customize through MCM generate a new .ini file in the overwrite folder. If I create a new mod for them they don't retain the customized options. I also don't know if they should do into the MCM helper mod or the mod that they originate from. Been causing some confusion for me. Thanks for all the awesome vids and for anyone helping with a reply if you see this!
How did you consolidate all the official DLCs into one thing? I have 77 official DLCS and would like to consolidate also to clean up MO2
This guy ... this voice ? C'mon .... he should be working in Hollywood ... 😂
Can you create a mod out of a specific file in the overwrite folder? I have 2 folders in mine. SSEEdit Backups and SSEEdit Cache. I was going to create and move the cache like you did in the video but not sure what to do with the backups. I'm assuming that backups generated when I cleaned the dlc's.
You have a chad face, and a chad brain. thank you beautiful person
I can't figure out what's wrong. SkyUI stopped working, I'm trying to get mods "installed" ingame to load, but they won't even if I try to use the overwrite folder. Please help
I have mod organizer v2.4.4. I have an error that says there are files in my overwrites folder. However, I don't have anything in my UI to indicate I have an overwrite folder. Running fallout 4.
dangit man i keep getting distracted by how wholesome this dude is that i cant follow the directions properly!
>this is why you dont install 100 mods at once
>Skyrim AE: lol, lmao
Bro you look so much like Manny from black books. First episode little book of calm!
Hi Michael, Awesome video...short but sweet Could you please make a short video showing how you got rid of the filters in the left pane window? My old man brain can't seem to figure it out!!!
Thank you very much, I was getting that notification with a Fallout New Vegas mod and I couldn't fix it.
How would i be able to import a CSV file that was exported from mod organiser? Since if i add the csv to a new profile no new mods are added and its the same ones i already have installed on the instance
You are such a hero for doing your tutorials! They have been such a big help!
Glad they help :)
I was wondering, do you plan on making a video on how to install Skyrim Together Reborn? That would help alot actually :)
Brother, you should definitely apply for voice over work. Also, thanks for the video. Would love an updated Wrye Bash video
thank you for your video , but when i drag and drop it just copy the overwrite into the mod not realy changing its place
Damn i shouldve known that from the start i recently switched to MO2 because vortex wasnt working right
Man, I really wish I had found this video before I started messing with mods. I've spent the past few days trying to get Skyrim mods set up but now the overwrite folder is full of stuff.
For some reason, I could not drag and drop my files to the appropriate mods. I'm confused.
Okay, new user. I didn’t do this and now I’m stuck do I have to start over??
Can you make a guide to install valhalla combat? There are a million showcase videos but not a single one step-by-step guide
Can you make a video to teach how to use easy NPC? It would be of great help
PS: this channel is gold, it has helped me a lot, so thank you ✌️
ok so I just downloaded mo2 to start using it long term and it seems I have already screwed it. I was putting the files and stuff from the overwrite thing into their mods and stuff however i had to close the folder so I could run Nemesis and then everything disappeared from the overwrite. should I just start over?
i have 300 mods using vortex and it's start to get irritating because i can't customize my load order for northern roads mod, glad i switch to mo2
So it was that easy and I still managed to screw it... I just create a new mod Each time thinking that it was only created by external apps like Nemesis and Name each mod with the date that it was created... well... at least I have them in their own separator...
It won't find my fallout 3 game of the year edition when I have it and have played it im on steam deck
im trying to clean my overwrite folder but it became such a mess. i already cleaned files that are obvious like drag & dropping some ini's and such to their corresponding mods. also switched programs outputs to empty mods like nemesis, xedit ect. but there are still tons of files that i don't even know where they came from. is there a reliable way to learn what to do with each file, or am i too late for this?
Seriously you should make a course and sell it because no one can truly replicate what you do but i truly believe anyone could benefit from learning from you. Id pay.
you explain it so plainly that it makes me wanna teach you how to open philo for greek pitas... i feel that when you will manage that i will manage to mod 😅hopefully.. well the chances are you will make a pita pie first
How do you know when to drag and drop and when to create a mod for the output? Im guessing if its an INI you drag and drop, and otherwise its a mod? Thanks for the tutorials man
I am dreading the day when I move over from Vortex and have to install 1200+ mods one by one.
Thanks for doing these videos, you are the main reason why running so many mods works as well as it does.
Glad to have helped :)
What I’m doing right now 😂
sorry im confused i have vortex i just moved my oblivion how do i know if my paths are moved so the mods will move correctly
Hi i really like ur vids they have helped me alot.
Im hopeing u might be able to help me i have looked for a vid on what to do when Vortex says u have Redundent mods but i cant find any vids on it
Hi,can i use mo2 for skyrim and fallout 4 at the same time? When yes,who? 😅