@@VS31636 when you re-watch the nitros from that russo era they look so surreal, like if johnny dep was shown watching pro wrestling in fear and loathing in las vegas, russos version of wcw is how pro wrestling would have been depicted in that movie, its like something out of a bad lsd trip, it looks like a bad over the top parody of professional wrestling from some 90s movie were they depict people watching extreme tv shows in the future
Russo also had a storyline for EVERYONE. So it wasn't just main eventers getting storylines. Russo had a ton of ideas. He just needed McMahon to filter through them.
I think not having credits at the end makes the show feel more real. I know people deserve the credit. But I think that small detail could dumb down the show
Obviously McMahon didn't want his writers to be credited when they were scoring high ratings which might have caught Hollywood's attention in the long run. "Vince didn't believe in credits", yeah right Bruce lmao
I don't like the idea of credits either because you're constantly reminded that the WWE is fake after the show ends. Back then especially, it was all about keeping the integrity of the business in tact.
I've heard this from Russo on his podcast and when he tells it, it never seems to change. He wanted a raise due to having to also write SmackDown without a raise. He also stated his work would suffer if he had to spread himself between 2 shows. Bischoff has even stated that as well about Thunder (which he also didn't want to do). I got Russo on this one. I also believe that's why McMahon hired SO many writers instead of 2 so that wouldn't happen again. Think about it🤷🏾♂️
I do agree about that. I just don’t like the fact that McMahon thought it wasn’t a big deal, and Prichard with his “Welp, it is what it is…happened to everyone else before Russo & after him. It’s just the way McMahon does things” attitude about it.
Yes exactly, ego trumps quality of his product. He'd rather the quality of his show takes a dive than ever have to rely on one primary writer again that can just walk out leaving him in the lurch. Not for professional reasons, they may come into it somewhat but more so that nobody gets one over on him. So he has 30 more or less monkeys on typewriters now so that if one leaves it doesn't make any difference. Such a childish person. And Prichard is just such an apologist/ass kisser for him.
Except with WWF there was someone who actually knew what they were doing and could shoot down ideas that just sounded awful...Clearly in WCW there was nobody there to actually shoot down the awful ideas. Kind of a stupid time to go to WCW since it was a cluster from the pending AOL/Time Warner merger and them really not wanting anything to do with wrestling anymore at that point.
Why would he have watched the show in 2001/2002? The show sucked and the ratings tanked lmao. Hilarious that Bruce is talking about Russo not increasing the ratings, notable ratings killer Bruce Prichard
I know right, if they buried all of Russo's ideas after he pitched them in 2002, they couldn't have been worse than what was on tv lol, i bet it was Prichard who pitched Katie Vick lol
Russo also said he'd stop talking about "dumb wrestling" when he was 60... That was like 3 years ago and he talks about it more. Russo lies by lying to himself & then convincing others.
I mean, I've never heard him say the dollar amount but he says that Sportskeeda pays him good money to talk about wrestling and people want his opinions and I enjoy watching Russos opinions on Wrestling bc most are right lol
It's obvious of Russo's contributions to the weekly TV format, and build to PPV's. Before he was head writer / head of creative, Stone Cold, The Rock and them big stars were all there, but they were doing ridiculous gimmicks like Ringmaster, etc. Then after he left, the product seemed to just run off of the momentum he helped create before getting stale - while Rock, Stone Cold and all the big stars were still there. 1997 - 1999 was arguably the best period for WWE.
Russo got a big head from seeing some of his ideas approved and processed by McMahon. In reality, any time this prick's influence physically "showed" on WWF, it would be in the form of most of the matches on the card ending in DQs, run-ins and brawls, or in the form of legacy talent disrespected and buried on live TV for maybe a slight momentary ratings bump. He was the ideas guy, but given how many of his ideas were shit and given how much of a whiner he was and remains, I don't believe for a second McMahon would have spilled out that supposed sniveling apology on the phone.
You idolise a 50+ yo man who walks around in burger sauce stained South Park & Family Guy T shirts that usualy older teenagers have grown out of and thinks pro wrestling is real and can't get your own insulting name to call Russo but have to copy Cornette's facile insulting name.
Lol Russo comparing himself and Kevin Dunn as the Kobe and Shaq to McMahon's Phil Jackson, Rock and Ausin were Kobe and Shaq and Russo is like some assistant coach no knows the name of
@@Rschr101 Vince Russo gives himself all the credit for making the attitude era great and compares himself to Kobe fucking Bryant, but I'm the asshole for saying it was the actual wrestlers that made wrestling so great in the late 90s lol
Wrestling wants to always make you feel like it is real, or at least back then. Putting credits at the end makes it look fake. You're constantly reminded how fake it is at the end.
Russo just plain sucked. Hes the one who put Owen on that cat walk and he went and put WCW out of business. He tried to push Jeff Jarrett so hard in WCW. I've personally met Jeff and he was really cool to me but he wasn't in the league of the top guys. WcW really sucked after Russo took over. He had no idea what he was doing.
Funny how many feelings get hurt in wrestling lol. Vince is their employer not daddy. I remember Bart hart in an interview said when he was first negotiating staying with the wf that it wasn’t about the money he just want to feel wanted by Vince 😂. Like dude stfu it’s all about the money in fact till this man you still mad about the money you lost after retiring. Vince is all business and does what needs to be done period.
15:33 Yes. YES. Exactly. But the beauty of it is that he can beg for a job all he wants, but by now everyone's seen through his bullshit, that he's just a hack who got lucky.
I thought Vince (Mcmahon) loved people not knowing anything about his product when he had then work for him.... A few different people including Todd Petengale or however u spell his name said when Mcmahon offered him the job he said "but I don't know a thing about wrestling" and Vince's response was "excellent!". Sean Mooney also said he hadn't watched the product and Vince thought that was an advantage rather than disadvantage. Yet Vince's ass wiper here says he was mad because Russo didn't know if Jericho and Triple H had worked together b4.... What happend to the excellent! attitude to that? Mcmahon has a moment of logic for a change but only when it comes to certain individuals but others it doesn't matter if they're ignorant to his product. Bizarre
A couple of things. Vince was looking for announcers with REAL radio and TV exposure, and presence. Pettingil, and Mooney had that. They just had to read their lines professionally. Maybe improvise here and there. Russo was a freaking writer. A writer that makes direction for the cast he writes for. You kind of need to know what the hell is going on. You can't start writing the third part of someone's novel, then come in and say..."So, what's going on?" It's very easy to comprehend. Vince always wanted his TV announcers to come from somewhere other than wrestling. He was unsuccessful in that endeavor. But he always tried.
Russo nor anyone deserves all the credit for the ratings but anyone watching the weekly product saw a marked decline in story writing when he left and never to return
Is that why his last story ideas in WCW was a tournament, his ideas in TNA were a tournament and, then when almost going back to WWE his first idea is a tournament. Im sorry but his writing wasn't all that amazing. He's really highly overrated. Kinda hilarious that nobody ever seems to mention that he left WWF, went to WCW and WCW went down the crapper, with his tournaments and, making himself a character and the most important nobody there cared so nobody filtered out his garbage ideas or took the turds and shined them up. He may have had good ideas working in WWF, but you still had Vince and other competent people there to stop really bad ideas.
Russo wanted to leave for the freedom and then everybody found out that he was absolutely worthless. He's not remembered for anything good... He's remembered for being the drizzling shits when Vince McMahon wasn't there to reel his ass in. He sucked when it wasn't Steve Austin, Vince McMahon, The Rock, HHH, or HBK turning his chicken shit into chicken salad. For the life of me I don't understand why anyone would listen to him unless they just need to listen to something that will move your bowels.
There's no way Russo had these elaborate conversations with McMahon. There were no instances of "bro" on Vinny Ru's side. In all seriousness though, you can hate Russo all you want, but he's a great storyteller. Even if most of it is fiction.
@@terranceburrs5832 omg! Go watch wow when he was in charge. It was just soooo frickin stupid it’s a joke. Making Judy bagwell heavyweight champ. He says he was most proud of making booker t heavyweight champ and then I see interviews where he says championship is meaningless prop. Its was an absolute jumbled mess. When he was with wwf Vince McMahon had final say and kept him in line. When he was in charge it was the worst show ever! I can give u example after example. But I’ll be texting forever. I can’t believe he has any defenders. Vince McMahon rehired him and he asks if Jericho and triple h ever worked together. They had just headlined the last pay per view! He s a clown
@@terranceburrs5832 Shall we look at them? Alright, let me give you a history lesson, so you don't remain a clueless mark. In the first 13 weeks (until he was fired in 2000) of his WCW run, the Nitro rating declined from a 3.24 average (the previous 13 weeks) to 3.21. Thunder didn't really move (2.24 to 2.25 that's pretty much a margin of error even) and the 3 PPV's had a slighty (0.41 to 0.43) higher buyrate thanks to a strong Havoc, but Starrcade 1999 got the lowest WCW PPV Buyrate (0.35) since Battlebowl 1993 When he returned, the Nitro rating did slightly increase (2.9 to 2.79) but that was solely due to the hype surrounding the "reboot" epside, after that inital good Nitro rating (3.1) the ratings immediately fell (the next episode only did a 2.5). Thunder saw an increase from 2.21 to 2.63, but PPV's sharply declined to a 0.21 average. Post BatB 2000, Nitro declined to a 2.84 average and this average is only so high because 2 Nitros aired unopposed from Raw drawing a 3.8 and 4.1, otherwise the average would be below 2.5. Thunder declined to a 2.36 average. PPV's dropped even furhter, now only averaging 0.17 So, there you have it, as a fact: Russo killed ratings. By the Way, the only reason why Russo claims he brought the ratings up instantly, was because the first Nitro he did a 3.3, which indeed was a increase from the previous weeks 2.6. What Russo conveniently "forgets", is that this Nitro ran on a national holiday and due to it being a long weekend, most people went on holiday or had better things to do than watch Nitro. What Russo also conveniently ignores, is the fact that in September Nitro (Sept. 6) was pulling in 4.1 ratings, a number Russo NEVER EVER reached. Here's another fun fact: The last (with Raw on the air) Nitro rating above 3.5 wasn't achieved by Russo, it was achieved by Kevin Sullivan as head booker on February 14, 2000. Let's hope you learned something and stop being a clueless mark :)
@@ShadowAngel18606 one I'm not a mark, and two I gave you the breskdown from when Russo wasn't there compared to win he was, and three what killed WCW is AOL Time Warner wanting nothing to do with wrestling, not Vince Russo. And they sold the company to WWE as a result. Also, a "mark" is someone who believes wrestling is real and doesn't understand that it is scripted. I'm tired of people overusing wrestling terms and taking them out of context. A good example of that would be those who hate Vince Russo or a Sasha Banks because they believe they are the characters they played on television. I don't take this stuff serious like a lot of you guys do to the point where you have a hatred for people based on a scripted television show.
No, that dubious distinction goes to none other than…wait for it…P.T. Barnum, who was smart enough to know that people will pay money to watch *anything* including Greco Roman wrestling 🤼
"It started with Marella and Phoenix out. Marella talked about the three perverts he might face at Cyber Sunday, two crossdressers, Rodney the Piper and Goldendust, and a third pervert in Honky Tonk Man. He called "Johnny Knockville" to the ring. He was out there plugging his website about 50 times, so it was no subtlety as to why he was there. He made a remark about Phoenix's tallywacker and implying she was a guy in drag (I mean, she doesn't exactly look like Nicole Bass or even Chyna to make that joke work), so she bodyslammed him. This was just about the worst bodyslam in history, all his fault. She gave him an extra boot out of frustration and I'm sure she was glad her time in this skit was up. Hornswoggle ran in for a tadpole splash. Then Chris Pontius, who was with him, came to the ring. Christopher DeJosephs (a WWE "writer") as Big Dick Johnson then showed up, peeled off his clothes, and started dancing. Pontius then peeled off his clothes, so you had two guys running around in jock straps dancing. I'd hate to think who this was trying to appeal to at this point. But we weren't done. Out came the Boogeyman.. DeJosephs ran away, but Boogeyman gave Pontius a lousy-looking clothesline and spit worms all over his face. Almost none went in Pontius' mouth, but one or two may have and they were selling it like a ton did. But we STILL weren't done. Knoxville got up and said he'd been blown up before, and finally, since this was all building to it, out came Khali. They started laughing and Khali gave Knoxville the head squeeze, picked him up and dropped him with a slam from the head squeeze. There have been mercy killings less painful than this segment. Houston Mitchell of the Los Angeles Times, there live, said "I've never seen a segment die live quite as bad as that Jackass segment did. And it seemed to go on forever." There were people internally quietly saying the segment was awful, and Brian Gewirtz (WWE "writer") was very defensive of it, saying those people just don't understand good comedy." Apparently, that stupid son of a bitch Gewirtz doesn't understand good WRESTLING, either." - Jim Cornette Wrestling News Observer, 2009
@@AWrestlingHistorian ok,unlike Corny Gerwitz is a Legit writer, and also you seem to ignore the fact t that Corny worked for a guy who essentially HATED the Stigma of "Professional Rasslin '" Don't shit on Gerwitz,shit on His BOSS, cause be real up in here ,Gerwitz was just Following orders to to a 70+ year old boss ,who loves FART JOKES
Difference between Russo in WWF and wcw was that it went through the Vince filter, in wcw those ideas were never finessed or stopped before it got silly it seems
Yeah, he only brought the WWF out of the 80's and into the late 90's, turned around a damaged and shit brand and played a pivotal role in one of Wrestling's biggest boom periods, but okay.
@@mr-bradstar3786 Tell us you're a Cornete mark who has zero clue what you're talking about without telling us. Austin has discussed several times on his podcast working with Russo and giving him credit. Bret Hart, Jeff Jarrett, New Age Outlaws, Mick Foley, Kane and others have given Russo credit for coming up with ideas for them and working with them. Bret and the New Age Outlaws have confirmed Russo came up with DX and came up with the idea to reboot DX removing Michaels. The entire Attitude Era concept was all Russo and his ideas and browsing Vic Venom articles in the WWF Magazine from 1994-1996 easily confirms that as he was writing Attitude Era style articles and ideas in the magazine for several years before Vince promoted him to Head of Creative(which has been confirmed by multiple talents and even Pritchard here) and told him to fix the steaming pile of drizzling shits Cornette, Pritchard, JR and McMahon created through 1994-1997. Try again, mark.
I'm surprised there wasn't an 8 minute advertisement in the middle of this clip . I wanted to hear about Blue Chew
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Just don't get one stuck in your throat, you'll get a stiff neck
CONrad surprised me with 1-clip to not have one finally in a small clip.
“I won’t allow it, bro!“
- Vince Russo
I only listen for the ads!
The thing that gets me is McMahon saying that Russo quitting is the most devastating call he’s ever gotten. No way that shits true.
I always thought that was Randy Savage
@@jamesbyersmusic I'll say Andre the Giant dying.
I imagine the calls he’s having with his lawyers are pretty devastating.
Bruce does the most hilarious jim Cornette impression 🤗😁👍
Fucking hilarious when he does it I fall out every time
Nailed it! 😂😂
Where's the crooked reverse mortgage ad?
Vince Russo turned Mike Awesome into that 70s guy, I just can’t get over it
And "Fat Chick Thrilla..."
Honestly, I thought the Lava Lamp Lounge was hilarious. He was always so bummed when the lamp broke
@@VS31636 when you re-watch the nitros from that russo era they look so surreal, like if johnny dep was shown watching pro wrestling in fear and loathing in las vegas, russos version of wcw is how pro wrestling would have been depicted in that movie, its like something out of a bad lsd trip, it looks like a bad over the top parody of professional wrestling from some 90s movie were they depict people watching extreme tv shows in the future
I liked the gimmick. And he kicked the shit out of ICP
@@jaylong4705 on top of the partrige family bus lol
Russo had about 5 or 6 awesome, game changing ideas. The problem was the 10,000 other ideas he had were absolute shit.
And Mr Bobby gray was in the creative meetings to tell us all about it!
and how would you know, mark?
Russo also had a storyline for EVERYONE. So it wasn't just main eventers getting storylines. Russo had a ton of ideas. He just needed McMahon to filter through them.
That you Cornette? Don't forget your blood pressure medicine.
I liked the fact that he gave everyone something to do. Dude was good the time he was there. No Attitude Era without him, Ed, and McMahon.
Conrad telling a story in which both guys are named Vince. "Vince said..." "Vince responded..." "Vince thought..."" DUDE!!! What are you even saying!?
You gotta weed through all the "bro"s and "pal"s.
Yeah he should have used last names instead
I had no issues following it honestly
Hahaha drunk af listening to this I hear u
Proper nouns, pal.
10:29 “We’re gonna have toynamants, bro!” 🤣🤣
I think he booked two tournaments in the WWF, one that’s considered one of the best PPVs ever but alright.
@@anthonyp6823 which one?
@@creoleDJsurvivor series 98
@@anthonyp6823 any others besides that one?
I think not having credits at the end makes the show feel more real. I know people deserve the credit. But I think that small detail could dumb down the show
This episode is like 5 years old.
Back when the show was good
that jim cornette was funny LOL
7:00 lol, nailed the impression as usual
Awesome to hear Mr. Prichard recollections of these stories!!
9:46 - I'm sorry, what? Russo's ratings were the best ever. How else would he be offered a head writer role? (even if only 3 weeks)...
Obviously McMahon didn't want his writers to be credited when they were scoring high ratings which might have caught Hollywood's attention in the long run. "Vince didn't believe in credits", yeah right Bruce lmao
I don't like the idea of credits either because you're constantly reminded that the WWE is fake after the show ends. Back then especially, it was all about keeping the integrity of the business in tact.
@@bane3991good point
Russo didn’t invent worked shoots in the WWF, Diesel did them in 1995 😂
I've heard this from Russo on his podcast and when he tells it, it never seems to change. He wanted a raise due to having to also write SmackDown without a raise. He also stated his work would suffer if he had to spread himself between 2 shows. Bischoff has even stated that as well about Thunder (which he also didn't want to do). I got Russo on this one. I also believe that's why McMahon hired SO many writers instead of 2 so that wouldn't happen again. Think about it🤷🏾♂️
I do agree about that. I just don’t like the fact that McMahon thought it wasn’t a big deal, and Prichard with his “Welp, it is what it is…happened to everyone else before Russo & after him. It’s just the way McMahon does things” attitude about it.
@@creoleDJHe's probably just desensitized to it since he's one of the only people who's still around from the HulkaMania era.
Yes exactly, ego trumps quality of his product. He'd rather the quality of his show takes a dive than ever have to rely on one primary writer again that can just walk out leaving him in the lurch. Not for professional reasons, they may come into it somewhat but more so that nobody gets one over on him. So he has 30 more or less monkeys on typewriters now so that if one leaves it doesn't make any difference. Such a childish person. And Prichard is just such an apologist/ass kisser for him.
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10:27 did TK study Russo before picking up booking duties?
I wish all of you guys get together and create some magic again y'all done it before with the attitude era‼️
I literally can't get enough of BP's impersonation of corny
I will always love every single “Cornette” quote
Agreed.😂😂👍👍
Lmafo damm
[In my best Cornette voice] "Of course you will, MOTHERF**KER!!!" 😂😂😂
Gawddamn right you will - Jim Cornette 😂🤘
Yikes
VinceRussBro
Russo was heavily influenced by the Howard Stern show & was the Jackie Martling of pro wrestling.
thats a huge insult to jackie martling, russo wished he was jackie martling
And Jerry Springer also. He once said
that he & Ed Ferrara would write Raw episodes that were Springer inspired.
@@creoleDJI miss those days
Except with WWF there was someone who actually knew what they were doing and could shoot down ideas that just sounded awful...Clearly in WCW there was nobody there to actually shoot down the awful ideas. Kind of a stupid time to go to WCW since it was a cluster from the pending AOL/Time Warner merger and them really not wanting anything to do with wrestling anymore at that point.
Great response @@kerpal321
He forgot to put in there even though he was talking to McMahon, McMahon probably got annoyed with the use of bro in every other word😂
I turn 40 in 15 months. Crazy I’m the EXACT age he describes being in this story
Did you ask for $1m from your boss? If not, you are NOT the same.
@@AceCrickey same age not same kind of guy haha And I’m his age in 1999 not today 2024
Why is it crazy?
@@TL2354 was just funny that he described himself as exact age I was as the time to the month
Why would he have watched the show in 2001/2002? The show sucked and the ratings tanked lmao.
Hilarious that Bruce is talking about Russo not increasing the ratings, notable ratings killer Bruce Prichard
I know right, if they buried all of Russo's ideas after he pitched them in 2002, they couldn't have been worse than what was on tv lol, i bet it was Prichard who pitched Katie Vick lol
Still better than Russo’s dying WCW asshole!
Russo also said he'd stop talking about "dumb wrestling" when he was 60... That was like 3 years ago and he talks about it more. Russo lies by lying to himself & then convincing others.
He also said he’d stop doing shoot interviews years ago, lol
I mean, I've never heard him say the dollar amount but he says that Sportskeeda pays him good money to talk about wrestling and people want his opinions and I enjoy watching Russos opinions on Wrestling bc most are right lol
@@Whatnot627It's still too much!
You must be a big fan
It's obvious of Russo's contributions to the weekly TV format, and build to PPV's. Before he was head writer / head of creative, Stone Cold, The Rock and them big stars were all there, but they were doing ridiculous gimmicks like Ringmaster, etc. Then after he left, the product seemed to just run off of the momentum he helped create before getting stale - while Rock, Stone Cold and all the big stars were still there. 1997 - 1999 was arguably the best period for WWE.
How many times has this exact same segments going to be uploaded I swear I have heard this exact same segment on at least three different posts
Only Pritchard can make Russo more likable
My impression of Russo is that he is a pathological liar.
Russo got a big head from seeing some of his ideas approved and processed by McMahon. In reality, any time this prick's influence physically "showed" on WWF, it would be in the form of most of the matches on the card ending in DQs, run-ins and brawls, or in the form of legacy talent disrespected and buried on live TV for maybe a slight momentary ratings bump. He was the ideas guy, but given how many of his ideas were shit and given how much of a whiner he was and remains, I don't believe for a second McMahon would have spilled out that supposed sniveling apology on the phone.
His impressions are hilarious
Problem with Russo asking for that is he doesn’t risk injury
I love Bruce's impersonations, esp of Shit-stain's "tounoments" line, lol.
When is your boy Cornette gonna face Russo in a debate?
You idolise a 50+ yo man who walks around in burger sauce stained South Park & Family Guy T shirts that usualy older teenagers have grown out of and thinks pro wrestling is real and can't get your own insulting name to call Russo but have to copy Cornette's facile insulting name.
Lol Russo comparing himself and Kevin Dunn as the Kobe and Shaq to McMahon's Phil Jackson, Rock and Ausin were Kobe and Shaq and Russo is like some assistant coach no knows the name of
At least Russo was on the team, what do you do besides watch?
@@Rschr101 Vince Russo gives himself all the credit for making the attitude era great and compares himself to Kobe fucking Bryant, but I'm the asshole for saying it was the actual wrestlers that made wrestling so great in the late 90s lol
Wrestling wants to always make you feel like it is real, or at least back then. Putting credits at the end makes it look fake. You're constantly reminded how fake it is at the end.
Russo just plain sucked. Hes the one who put Owen on that cat walk and he went and put WCW out of business. He tried to push Jeff Jarrett so hard in WCW. I've personally met Jeff and he was really cool to me but he wasn't in the league of the top guys. WcW really sucked after Russo took over. He had no idea what he was doing.
I must say he does a nice Jim Cornette impression.
The imitation of Corny sounds more like Mickey Mouse
Lol, Russo's version sounds so scripted and if you follow his pattern of behavior, i doubt Russo was less than eloquent.
Funny how many feelings get hurt in wrestling lol. Vince is their employer not daddy. I remember Bart hart in an interview said when he was first negotiating staying with the wf that it wasn’t about the money he just want to feel wanted by Vince 😂. Like dude stfu it’s all about the money in fact till this man you still mad about the money you lost after retiring. Vince is all business and does what needs to be done period.
to Vince WWE has always been a business not a family
Worst Podcaster of the year.. Lets go Chubby!!
15:33 Yes. YES. Exactly. But the beauty of it is that he can beg for a job all he wants, but by now everyone's seen through his bullshit, that he's just a hack who got lucky.
Whatever makes you feel better bro
@@Rschr101
Truth hurts.
Russo is so full of BS.
Cornette*
Get rid of Prichard, and bring back Russo. Bro!
I thought Vince (Mcmahon) loved people not knowing anything about his product when he had then work for him.... A few different people including Todd Petengale or however u spell his name said when Mcmahon offered him the job he said "but I don't know a thing about wrestling" and Vince's response was "excellent!". Sean Mooney also said he hadn't watched the product and Vince thought that was an advantage rather than disadvantage. Yet Vince's ass wiper here says he was mad because Russo didn't know if Jericho and Triple H had worked together b4.... What happend to the excellent! attitude to that? Mcmahon has a moment of logic for a change but only when it comes to certain individuals but others it doesn't matter if they're ignorant to his product. Bizarre
A couple of things. Vince was looking for announcers with REAL radio and TV exposure, and presence. Pettingil, and Mooney had that. They just had to read their lines professionally. Maybe improvise here and there. Russo was a freaking writer. A writer that makes direction for the cast he writes for. You kind of need to know what the hell is going on. You can't start writing the third part of someone's novel, then come in and say..."So, what's going on?" It's very easy to comprehend. Vince always wanted his TV announcers to come from somewhere other than wrestling. He was unsuccessful in that endeavor. But he always tried.
Conrad and ric flair use the n word at the dinner table...
Sounds like a sick obsession he had with VKM.
Russo nor anyone deserves all the credit for the ratings but anyone watching the weekly product saw a marked decline in story writing when he left and never to return
Is that why his last story ideas in WCW was a tournament, his ideas in TNA were a tournament and, then when almost going back to WWE his first idea is a tournament.
Im sorry but his writing wasn't all that amazing. He's really highly overrated. Kinda hilarious that nobody ever seems to mention that he left WWF, went to WCW and WCW went down the crapper, with his tournaments and, making himself a character and the most important nobody there cared so nobody filtered out his garbage ideas or took the turds and shined them up. He may have had good ideas working in WWF, but you still had Vince and other competent people there to stop really bad ideas.
Russo wanted to leave for the freedom and then everybody found out that he was absolutely worthless. He's not remembered for anything good... He's remembered for being the drizzling shits when Vince McMahon wasn't there to reel his ass in. He sucked when it wasn't Steve Austin, Vince McMahon, The Rock, HHH, or HBK turning his chicken shit into chicken salad. For the life of me I don't understand why anyone would listen to him unless they just need to listen to something that will move your bowels.
What will you be remembered for?
@@Rschr101
Truth telling, one hopes.
DWM stop running with Jim Cornette's comments. That stuff doesn't make logical sense and it's not factual. Look at the facts and think for yourself.
1997-1999 is the best version of Undertaker.
Another rehashed video from 2018. That's 3 videos from 2018 that were uploaded again this week.
There's no way Russo had these elaborate conversations with McMahon. There were no instances of "bro" on Vinny Ru's side.
In all seriousness though, you can hate Russo all you want, but he's a great storyteller. Even if most of it is fiction.
That's a great point but I think the editor probably did a Find And Replace for "bro" before the final draft went to the presses.
@JamesPoli true
We all would like to forget that triple shit headlined X8
Who is “We”? Lmao
Exactly
7:10 - Corny meets Mickey Mouse on 2x speed if you wanna laugh.
Vince Russo’s wcw was just unwatchable! So bad!
Not according to the facts. Look at the ratings during the periods he was there compared to when he wasn't there.
@@terranceburrs5832 omg! Go watch wow when he was in charge. It was just soooo frickin stupid it’s a joke. Making Judy bagwell heavyweight champ. He says he was most proud of making booker t heavyweight champ and then I see interviews where he says championship is meaningless prop. Its was an absolute jumbled mess. When he was with wwf Vince McMahon had final say and kept him in line. When he was in charge it was the worst show ever! I can give u example after example. But I’ll be texting forever. I can’t believe he has any defenders. Vince McMahon rehired him and he asks if Jericho and triple h ever worked together. They had just headlined the last pay per view! He s a clown
@@terranceburrs5832 Shall we look at them? Alright, let me give you a history lesson, so you don't remain a clueless mark.
In the first 13 weeks (until he was fired in 2000) of his WCW run, the Nitro rating declined from a 3.24 average (the previous 13 weeks) to 3.21. Thunder didn't really move (2.24 to 2.25 that's pretty much a margin of error even) and the 3 PPV's had a slighty (0.41 to 0.43) higher buyrate thanks to a strong Havoc, but Starrcade 1999 got the lowest WCW PPV Buyrate (0.35) since Battlebowl 1993
When he returned, the Nitro rating did slightly increase (2.9 to 2.79) but that was solely due to the hype surrounding the "reboot" epside, after that inital good Nitro rating (3.1) the ratings immediately fell (the next episode only did a 2.5). Thunder saw an increase from 2.21 to 2.63, but PPV's sharply declined to a 0.21 average.
Post BatB 2000, Nitro declined to a 2.84 average and this average is only so high because 2 Nitros aired unopposed from Raw drawing a 3.8 and 4.1, otherwise the average would be below 2.5. Thunder declined to a 2.36 average. PPV's dropped even furhter, now only averaging 0.17
So, there you have it, as a fact: Russo killed ratings.
By the Way, the only reason why Russo claims he brought the ratings up instantly, was because the first Nitro he did a 3.3, which indeed was a increase from the previous weeks 2.6. What Russo conveniently "forgets", is that this Nitro ran on a national holiday and due to it being a long weekend, most people went on holiday or had better things to do than watch Nitro.
What Russo also conveniently ignores, is the fact that in September Nitro (Sept. 6) was pulling in 4.1 ratings, a number Russo NEVER EVER reached.
Here's another fun fact: The last (with Raw on the air) Nitro rating above 3.5 wasn't achieved by Russo, it was achieved by Kevin Sullivan as head booker on February 14, 2000.
Let's hope you learned something and stop being a clueless mark :)
@@ShadowAngel18606 one I'm not a mark, and two I gave you the breskdown from when Russo wasn't there compared to win he was, and three what killed WCW is AOL Time Warner wanting nothing to do with wrestling, not Vince Russo. And they sold the company to WWE as a result. Also, a "mark" is someone who believes wrestling is real and doesn't understand that it is scripted. I'm tired of people overusing wrestling terms and taking them out of context. A good example of that would be those who hate Vince Russo or a Sasha Banks because they believe they are the characters they played on television. I don't take this stuff serious like a lot of you guys do to the point where you have a hatred for people based on a scripted television show.
I'm with Russo on this.
Vince Russo is nuts. lol. Clown
There's no way McMahon said those things or acted that way toward Russo. 😂
Because you were there , right?
The “Oh, why don’t you just get a nanny” is very “on brand” for Vince McMahon, even Bruce Pritchard admitted that.
@@sawtooth808Agreed, I just can't see McMahon telling him that he would have given him the money.
@@sawtooth808 Yes it is. Not the part I'm talking about, however.
Russo invented Wrestling
No, that dubious distinction goes to none other than…wait for it…P.T. Barnum, who was smart enough to know that people will pay money to watch *anything* including Greco Roman wrestling 🤼
@@sawtooth808Catch wrestling is different from Greco Roman wrestling.
Ah yes, when the attitude era ended.
Read Brian Gerwitz's Book....just saying
"It started with Marella and Phoenix out. Marella talked about the three perverts he might face at Cyber Sunday, two crossdressers, Rodney the Piper and Goldendust, and a third pervert in Honky Tonk Man. He called "Johnny Knockville" to the ring. He was out there plugging his website about 50 times, so it was no subtlety as to why he was there. He made a remark about Phoenix's tallywacker and implying she was a guy in drag (I mean, she doesn't exactly look like Nicole Bass or even Chyna to make that joke work), so she bodyslammed him. This was just about the worst bodyslam in history, all his fault. She gave him an extra boot out of frustration and I'm sure she was glad her time in this skit was up. Hornswoggle ran in for a tadpole splash.
Then Chris Pontius, who was with him, came to the ring. Christopher DeJosephs (a WWE "writer") as Big Dick Johnson then showed up, peeled off his clothes, and started dancing. Pontius then peeled off his clothes, so you had two guys running around in jock straps dancing. I'd hate to think who this was trying to appeal to at this point. But we weren't done. Out came the Boogeyman.. DeJosephs ran away, but Boogeyman gave Pontius a lousy-looking clothesline and spit worms all over his face. Almost none went in Pontius' mouth, but one or two may have and they were selling it like a ton did. But we STILL weren't done. Knoxville got up and said he'd been blown up before, and finally, since this was all building to it, out came Khali. They started laughing and Khali gave Knoxville the head squeeze, picked him up and dropped him with a slam from the head squeeze.
There have been mercy killings less painful than this segment. Houston Mitchell of the Los Angeles Times, there live, said "I've never seen a segment die live quite as bad as that Jackass segment did. And it seemed to go on forever." There were people internally quietly saying the segment was awful, and Brian Gewirtz (WWE "writer") was very defensive of it, saying those people just don't understand good comedy."
Apparently, that stupid son of a bitch Gewirtz doesn't understand good WRESTLING, either."
- Jim Cornette
Wrestling News Observer, 2009
Lifes too short
@@AWrestlingHistorian ok,unlike Corny Gerwitz is a Legit writer, and also you seem to ignore the fact t that Corny worked for a guy who essentially HATED the Stigma of "Professional Rasslin '" Don't shit on Gerwitz,shit on His BOSS, cause be real up in here ,Gerwitz was just Following orders to to a 70+ year old boss ,who loves FART JOKES
@@Rschr101 so's following and Worshipping a 62 year old TROLL
Difference between Russo in WWF and wcw was that it went through the Vince filter, in wcw those ideas were never finessed or stopped before it got silly it seems
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Craiggreen you are just repeating Jim Cornette. If you look at the facts, what you're saying makes no logical sense.
First
Be the first to brush your teeth
Gotta floss first
What would you like? A cookie?
Russo invited these 2 on his show to discuss this. Both of them declined. Wonder what theyre afraid of. Same with Cornette.
Probabably the same thing as everyone else, having to interact with Vince Russo.
The lack of space left in the room once Russo’s ego sits down.
And yet it was Russo who needed a restraining order against Cornette because he was afraid for his life. That will always make him the biggest pussy.
Russo gave nothing he added no value to the WWE
Yeah, he only brought the WWF out of the 80's and into the late 90's, turned around a damaged and shit brand and played a pivotal role in one of Wrestling's biggest boom periods, but okay.
@@onewarriornation602 Russo takes credit for Austin an rock an Dx I mean this Russo guy all he did was brawl for all that injured wrestlers
@@mr-bradstar3786 Tell us you're a Cornete mark who has zero clue what you're talking about without telling us.
Austin has discussed several times on his podcast working with Russo and giving him credit. Bret Hart, Jeff Jarrett, New Age Outlaws, Mick Foley, Kane and others have given Russo credit for coming up with ideas for them and working with them. Bret and the New Age Outlaws have confirmed Russo came up with DX and came up with the idea to reboot DX removing Michaels.
The entire Attitude Era concept was all Russo and his ideas and browsing Vic Venom articles in the WWF Magazine from 1994-1996 easily confirms that as he was writing Attitude Era style articles and ideas in the magazine for several years before Vince promoted him to Head of Creative(which has been confirmed by multiple talents and even Pritchard here) and told him to fix the steaming pile of drizzling shits Cornette, Pritchard, JR and McMahon created through 1994-1997.
Try again, mark.
@@onewarriornation602 an you like the u,ti ate warrior so yeh kiss my ass
He stole the whole concept from EC fukin W
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