The UPS and DOWNS electric vehicle are facing right now.
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
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I am sorry folks. I know this is going to be a hard conversation for some of you to have, but I had to day my piece.
That said.... if you are into EVs, more power to you! I want you to have an EV if you want want one.
Just please don't plug it in at my house 😉
I love my Nissan leaf. I love my 4Runner. I have the fortune of living in Phoenix so my leaf runs on sunshine. Owned it for almost two years no major issues so far. I love driving past gas stations not having to spend $60 to fill the tank.
Yes owning a small car works for you in your situation. But the government should not be mandating it.
Keep in mind that Tesla is the Model T of the EV world. The first EV “for the people”… if you look at some people’s response to ICE vehicles back then, it’s very similar to those who worry about EV’s today. I can feed my horse anywhere, fire concerns, range, infrastructure, etc… as you pointed out the difference is that the government never mandated model t’s.
Model T releases productivity from everybody, how much you would increase yours with an EV's negligible acceleration, couple more minutes a day on commute to save what? The world or time for browsing TikTok or RUclips, see where we are, and those who owns the platform makes the money, and sold more cars due to this debate of EV and ICE
I totally agree. greetings from Russia, we have the same!
I agree 100%. I respect anyone’s choice to drive whatever they want but I resent the fact that EV’s are being forced on us. If at all possible I will drive my old XJ for the rest of my life.
Nice job Douglas.👊👍👍
Funny this came up, this is how I found your channel. I have a 4.0 and want to do everything to keep it on the road until we no longer have viable options to fuel it.
A MUST SHARE VIDEO...
Great topic and there shud be more on it to open people’s eyes.
Giday Doug . Happy New year to You and Eric and all your family's. I still have my WJ 4.7 and still love it . I now have also My JKU Wrangler 2.8 Desiel . Desiels are great hear in Australia because we can get the range out of the tank of fuel like we need here in Aus. The ev's may be cool for some who live in the City and have lots of money But useless in reality. You can not beat the sound of the engine you love when you driving or Riding. Its Yoga for the Soul .
I'm 100% with ya. We have an awful infrastructure for these things. California LITERALLY has scheduled brown outs to manage their power yet they are first to say EVs only. How is that supposed to work? Personally, it's been -5 to 5 degrees here in Michigan this week. Without my 4x4 gas Jeep, how am I supposed to get to work? Run my mother water before her pipes froze? Get my kid to school? More efforts need to be pointed at a sustainable artificial gasoline alternative. We have too many vehicles out there on the roads as it is, not to mention all of the careers that are built to service them, to just let them rot because of an EV mandate. I sure as hell can't afford one (and would need two) and I don't want one. Make more hybrids, make an alternative fuel, and make better/safer EVs.
I've been making the same arrangement. I agree with you 💯
There is a Australian engineer/car expert. Who’s been talking about this quite a bit. John Cadogan from what he’s saying these cars burn 2000°. Which is basically the temperature that the water breaks down into hydrogen and oxygen also with these fires you have a lot of heavy metals like cobalt. so if the garage is separate from the house in the car burn in the garage smoke will be so toxic that you probably end up tearing down your house. Also at 2000° in a concrete structure like a parking garage it will destroy the reinforced concrete so it’s some point. The insurance companies are going to get involved and say you can’t be charging these. Last year I made a trip from Tacoma Washington to Scottsdale Arizona to pick up some things from my family. It was a trip. We left here at 3 o’clock on a Friday and got into Scottsdale at 1 o’clock in the morning Sunday and turned around on Monday at 4 AM and drove back to Tacoma, this trip would’ve been impossible in this timeframe with an EV. Keep up the videos. Appreciate your work. 😎👍
the assistant producer must have given you a raise to get a green screen bud
Just bought a 97 Dakota. V8, drinks gas as fast as I drink beer. It's just like me - old, rusty, and thirsty.
The EV batteries burn like they do because they produce their own oxygen as they burn. That's why water can't do it.
My wife is getting a new car soon and was considering an EV. However range anxiety put her off . But the main thing that put her off was that we could drive like 95% of the charge and NEED to recharge but the charging stations might all be full . If those cars take like 2 hours to finish charging THEN we get to charge its still not clear sailing because we might have to share the power on that station with another vehicle! Its like going to the fule pump and having to wait 2 hours for someone to fill their tank then when we get to fill ours someone else takes half our flow! EVs are the vegans of the car world right now. On paper makes sense but no way that we can ALL adopt it atm (Plus how do i charge my V8s? :D )
In addition to all the points make; my concern is the projected replacement cost for the EV batteries!!
Heat saps battery power as well
time to get that 04 WJ 4.0 with select track and the spare power train to sit in the shed till you need it.
I’m not against EV’s, but I will not own one for people who are commuting short distances. I say it’s a perfect thing. There’s no way within the next 5 to 10 years that they’re going to be everywhere. Let alone they talk about pollution for our cars now, but to make an EV as well when they do go up in flames, it puts out more pollution than a regular car whatever put out and I do agree go ahead sell them don’t cram down my throat
Wait til you hear how timid the gasoline supplies lines are…
Nothing said in the video I necessarily disagree with. But it really depends how anyone wants to look at the future car market.
I respect others who have family to think about and not just themselves. I respect no one vehicle size is perfect for all. I myself am not eager to own an EV with car manufacturers not great with warranty service.
However being single,I would be willing to consider leasing an EV. I probably won't anytime soon. But with the technology still in flux and unknown how bad they'll do in Artic cold,I'd be willing to test and evaluate an EV.
Between my wife and I we have 20 years of Electric car driving. We have never been broke down or stuck anywhere We have taken many long distance trips with no problems. We pick motels with free charging, so car charges over night while we sleep. Also, I have two chargers in my home driveway so both cars can charge at same time over night. Every house or garage outlet is a potential charging station. Home charging is about like paying $1.00 per gallon of gasoline, then you go like 30 miles for ever $1.00 of electric cost. I do not want the government telling people what to buy. The cars will sell themselves without gov. Mandates. Tesla has become the top selling car in the US and in the World. The amazing thing about it is that they never had an advertising program. So all media and tv hates Tesla because they do not pay them advertising fees. Also regular car dealers hate them because Tesla sells the cars direct to customers and do not use traditional car dealers.
I also love my traditional v8 F 150 Pickup and have owned and run a backhoe . I bought my fist electric car because I loved that it ran on coal generated electricity, which is mined and burned locally. I know coal miners who drive electric vehicles for this same reason. The cars are fueled by nuclear , and natural gas generated electric also. These cars have solved the energy shortage problem. Plus the new horizontal oil and gas drilling technologies. No more reason for Middle East oil wars now. The vast majority of people who buy these cars love them because they are a new experience.
Couple items
1. Tesla is best sold with EV credit, and tax incentives fined through ICE manufacturers and ICE buyers' tax, Tesla doesn't have dealership is not an EV benefit, e.g. If I startup a carbon neutral tech ICE brand, it would also bypass the franchise law, and probably earning Credit through fine, and got increasing sells with customers cheap enough to take tax credit advantage.
2. The ICE has huge margin of profit which EV doesn't have and easily gives away the precious mineral's pricing bound to the destiny of foreign country. No governmental gains from gas dependency to battery dependency so neither do consumers.
3. The cost of EV is so high that once government stop subsidy they would have no shining numbers to show to Wall St, like Tesla, they have to sell more and with the new money to cover up their pain of increasing cost e.g. Mobile mechanic cost and warranty cost and tech/OTA cost, the complexity of which increased along with increasing amount of models. Tesla is desperately seeking for a way out with AI/energy bs as soon the retirement of the batteries is going to crash them financially or customers financially.
4. If a business can only be maintained at enrolling new customers, it's a pyramid or ponzi scheme no matter which jacket they put on.
Imagine California want battery powered railroad locomotives. That's one big fire.
The electric answer is an integrated electric/ICE mass transit (bus and rail) system - not everyone owning an electric car.
Only thing keeping me up, is in less than a decade, I won't have any other option other then EV's. And the closer to that year we get, the more ICE cars are going to get. I don't have the space or the funds to stash a couple of cars away for future use. I'm also waiting for the government to ban the sale of gasoline in the future to force us into compliance.
Vote for the other party which will do away with the mandates.😊
These things are pushed as being "green" and from the start of production, they are more environmentally damaging than conventional vehicles...
Podcast. There not for everyone. But if you listen to one or any. I'd suggest "Everybody in the Pool". Molly Wood in my opinion does a decent job of trying to explain why things environmentally are on a sliding scale downward if we don't change are habits.
When they start installing Mr. Fusion on DeLorean's and ZJ's, I'll stick with ICE.
20 % of electric is produced from nuclear power plants. So therefore 1 out of every five electric cars are nuclear powered. The rest of the electric cars are fueled by coal, natural gas generated electric then next is hydropower like from like Hover Dam and Niagara Falls. The electric cars have solved the energy problem. I come from a coal mining and natural gas producing state and I love both of these fuels. Most people buy the electric cars not because they are environmentalist but because they like the technology and the different driving experience. I know I talk to much. But these same people still love the gasoline cars also. I drive both electric car and V8 F 150 Pickup. I know another guy who drives big diesel truck plus he has electric car also.
They also claim it cleaner. It’s very dirty to make batteries and then there’s disposal of the bad batteries
It's been pointed out Lithium batteries can be recycled. Zack of Jerryrigeverthing showed a tour of a facility on his channel. They recycle everything from drill batteries. To whole lithium car cell unit from Evs and Hybrids.
@@davidpick1076 is that why Tesla has a huge warehouse of bad batteries?
In a couple short years, new car prices will finally be higher than EVs, so then the EVs will finally look appealing, even though it's just a grocery getter and that's about it.
Control the vehicles so you can't travel, all about big gov control
Im not with evs but the f150 lighting gets a 100 miles fully loaded
Ford dropped the ball on the Lightning with faulty batteries that has definitely lowered people's opinion of the reliability of the model and Ford EVs.
But I thought Tyler Hoovie of Hoovies Garage and eventually Hoovies Farm pointed out what a Lightning is. It's not a viable work or towing truck. It's basically a race truck like a GMC Cyclone and other impractical pick ups of the past.
Maybe GM is going to mess up harder the Ford with their EV Silverado and Sierra. I hope not. And I hope they sell for around the 60K advertised price. If they average the Hummer 120K price,I really don't have optimism for Domestic vehicle sales and the car industry in general.
Maybe there won't be a recession in 6 months. But I find it will be impossible in less than 5 years.
Has anybody looked at the lithium mine in chili? Whoa, that doesn't look environmentally sound to me. They found another lithium field in Utah now... ❤ucks sake. Good thing the Petro lobbyists have more money than the EV lobbyists lol
You ever seen an oil spill? Or shale oil mine? Or a tanker catch fire? I'll stick to my horse thank you 😂
Simple common sense is out the window these day's.
You live in area with actual winters. EV's don't work up there.
Personally, I have avoided turbos, hybrids and EV's. Not buying any "new" vehicles for long time.
Check out electric cars in Norway, it is cold there and half of the car sells in the recent years are electric. Just saying.
Can’t tell about the US, but in Europe it seems Laws and decisions today are based on woke ideology instead on grown ups and fact based decisions😢
Agree Live in northern Canada ev disappear when hits the minus
And plus time. Let's say you are running out of gas you pull in a gas station and 5 minutes later your back on the road full tank plus a coffee. Now electric you probably need 5-8 hours to charge. No thanks I will keep my gas truck.
I completely agree. I’m an old school 1900’s car guy. But apparently my in-laws say some of the fast chargers can charge their bmw in less than 30 min. But yea, maybe 12 hours on slow change
My friend bought a Tesla and there was something wrong with the battery which costs around 14 k to replace.
1967 ford mustang gas tank $100
New engine is 20k.
These vechiles are not eco friendly... to produce 1 ev it makes 10 to 40 million tons of carbon...the energy that it takes to produce 1 ev can power my v8 wj for the next 25 years... electric is not the way
Basically. There is no 1 way to solve the climate problem. It's clear we can't keep doing what we've been doing without consequences. And we can't just transition to EVs in 10 years without standardization and stabilized used and new vehicle prices.
Maybe Toyota is right in Hybrids are the way. Maybe Solid State batteries can solve the problems Lithium batteries present with EVs.
Change is inevitable. It doesn't have to be scary.
Most people who buy the electric cars do not give a crap about the environment. They buy them because they are fast and fun to drive, plus they like the new technologies built into the cars.
I went on cross country trip in electric car and none of the people I met at the charging stations ever said a word about saving the environment. The only one talking about environment is talking heads on tv and gov people. The tv and media hates Tesla because they do not pay them to run advertisements. Yet Tesla has become a top selling car around the whole world just from word of mouth .
EV is one way they force you to buy a newer one periodically (5-10 years) and you got no options as Doug pointed out already.
However, for bus jumping off theory, unfortunately, with a global view, if one time we don't want to be the biggest sheep in the world, the Capital would shift to another country, like China where lots more sheep there so that they can make more profit.
1. China loves EVs, government set aside, consumers there never had cheap gas nor equal taxed V8s, not even any Turbos with 6 cylinders, so acceleration boost is dramatic to the level consumers would fall in love with EV as soon as they drive it once.
2. Grid is much newer and everyone knows how much investment they put on infrastructure which would turn out to be a soft power.
3. Consumers don't have much to say what they want, government easily makes them forced to consume EVs ONLY
@@grandche3966 Maybe this is the ultimate question anyone even thinking of owning an EV should consider. Is the old method of buying a new vehicle and owning it until the wheels fall off years later still true with an EV?
I think the answer is no. Depending on how EVs are built and sold. Long term ownership may not be feasible if their unaffordable to repair years later.
I've never leased a vehicle yet in my life. But I might with an EV if the long-term support for EVs just isn't there down the road depending on the brand. Tesla is proving more and more there not a long term ownership brand.
@@davidpick1076 As the world goes with requiring more expertise in more and more specialized area, the greater population in the U. S. who used to own tools for fixing cars that designed for maintenance and btw save a great amount of "Service" from others are not going to have the same level of freedom today, wait how about those waste produced along with producing EV? They aren't supposed to be there, but like how Mcdonald up sale chips and coke for the price they don't deserve, and GDP doesn't count waste in, while making new cars/EV provide what Economy needs, money circulation, jobs and media coverage, if EVs can promote sales that traditional ICEs can't, they are in, life? Not really a big deal with all the multiple ways (LG..., Drug,) they and the gov try hard to eliminate population growth and save the retirement system (too many people would bankrupt the social security funds).
All people staying at ICE side right now is going strong headwind against these propaganda, leasing one is fine.. Just experience it and we are still byproduct of the society anyway. Do it if you are brave enough and try charge outside of your garage..
Stop klauss. Whats wrong with you. EV. Dont lose any credibility you have left.