OMG - "Show me, show me."' This is sad. I wouldn't tell this interrogator the right time of day. Just sit there and say nothing. Eventually they send you back to your cell. If they don't get any thing within a certain time the information is useless. You will know when that is because send on to a regular POW camp and not an interrogation center.
I thought the same. They'll shoot him anyway. After all, this is somewhere in south America and the US Militairy would give him to the local military junta they are working with after the interrogation ends.
The U.S. would torture the shlt out of you no matter what information you gave or didn't give them to betray your families and country after they invaded it.
Ok wait... the description says Sept 18th 1947... but the video title screen says 1968. Plus that soldier at 9:04 (and elsewhere in the footage) is holding a Colt AR-15 rifle, model 001... first used in 1962. I think the description is a little off. LOL.
there's a dash and a blank after it, that's NARA speak for "from listed date to present day" so it's not saying this video was released in 1947, it's saying this video is part of the category that runs from 1947 to whenever they archived and released it (probably late 90s to early 00s)
@@comradeharley I actually emailed the archived to request full copy of the film but will cost some cash. so we need to start up a fundraiser on here lol - they told me they are unsure of how much it will be until i fill out the forms and send it into one of the third party vendors they work with
@@jacobdockter3436 In that case, I suppose we'll just have to keep an eagle eye out for a different upload of this film posted to RUclips or elsewhere. If it's somewhere, it usually ends up somewhere else eventually.
My neighbor in 2009-2010 at Fiaher Hill Apartments in Vancouver, Washington was the dude with the glasses in the Abu Ghraib pictures committing f-cked up acts to the prisoners. Small world. I ended up getting props from Stanley McChrystal for some amateur volunteer domestic counterinsurgency hobbyist stuff that I did. Worked with Michael Flynn for a bit before that. I read later on, in a Wired magazine online article, that Stanley McChrystal and Michael Flynn, between the two of them, singlehandedly went in and fixed the problems, which were substantial, of the entire interrogation program in place at the time. That is no small feat. Those guys are awesome. Heroes. Best wishes to both of those gentlemen. #Ihaveahighschooleducation 💀♠️🎯
The 320th MP Batt. was an absolute embarrassment to us all. If anything good came out of that situation it was to shine a light on the systemic effects of a breakdown in command and control. Weak leadership from the top down. Assigning tasks to units that are not properly trained or equipped to handle them. The Army tossed the 320th in that prison and basically forgot about them. There were constantly riots, food, water, and other necessities weren’t making it there in sufficient quantity or with regularity. And make no mistake, soldiers can and WILL degenerate into rabble under such circumstances. With a vacuum of leadership the MPs at Abu Ghirab started taking their cues and eventually direct orders from the military intelligence guys detailed to the prison. That is a major no-no because MI loves to get other people to do their dirty work. I was in the 173rd Airborne in Afghanistan and my leadership was for the most part quite good. The junior officers and NCOs were outstanding. So believe me, we looked at Abu Ghirab with absolute contempt on multiple levels.
During interrogation I would start some small talk so they give me good lunch and coffee, then very politely answer half of their questions with lies. I lie as much as I can ;) The other half, the one that can be cross-examined, tell harmless partial truth or nothing.
@@ticotube2501 I love America and I like most Americans. However, I would not cooperate with anyone who is trying to interrogate me, no matter which country they are from. I also hate cops. :)
@@ticotube2501 Because any interrogation is involuntary act, therefore must be resisted. If it is voluntary, it is called conversation and not interrogation. As for why I hate cops, because they don't give a s*it about the law, they obey illegal orders and do not care about the consequences for other people. I personally am victim of police crimes, so I hate them.
gotta love how they used the quiet, polite interrogator as the tough guy in interview 2, i guess the skinny babyface is a particularly scary character to central american guerrilla types
Drill their kneecaps? At gitmo? No, no, no. My sweet summer child, the US CIA would NEVER torture someone... ...in a way that would leave such obvious marks! Gotta soften them up with sleep deprivation by tying them up so they have to stand for, say, 72 hours to start. Then someone spins the colorful wheel to see which tactic is next. Everyone stands around and cheers for it to stop on their personal favorite. "Electric shocks!" "Rubber pipe beating!" "Waterboarding!" "Mock execution!" Sighs and a groan are heard across the room as it stops, but not on any of those. The cocky jag guy in the back of the room, that nobody likes because he always acts like he's compensating for shortcomings other than just his height, lets out an excited "yes!" under his breath. "Well, DeSantis, looks you're the winner this time. It's 'force-feeding'. We'll start at zero nine thirty."
Even though more than a half-century has passed for me, those are the uniforms and weapons I was well familiar with. I can't identify anything the soldiers of today wear and carry... they may as well be from Mars.
Opening scene looks like one of the filming locations for the TV series "Combat"
20:47 - Isn't that Gian Maria Volante from (bad guy A.K.A. 'Azul') from the spaghetti westerns?
Show the prisoner a plier with the music of the Nutcracker Suite in the background. He will talk.
OMG - "Show me, show me."' This is sad. I wouldn't tell this interrogator the right time of day. Just sit there and say nothing. Eventually they send you back to your cell. If they don't get any thing within a certain time the information is useless. You will know when that is because send on to a regular POW camp and not an interrogation center.
they would probably just execute you
I thought the same. They'll shoot him anyway. After all, this is somewhere in south America and the US Militairy would give him to the local military junta they are working with after the interrogation ends.
The U.S. would torture the shlt out of you no matter what information you gave or didn't give them to betray your families and country after they invaded it.
I had that same style flashlight in the 90s. I guess we were truly cutting edge.
Ahh nothin like a joint, some coffee and good ole interrogation techniques.
Junkie
Druggie
In a couple of years we will watch training videos on waterboarding interrogation technique here on RUclips.
10:50 why do they cover the map with a curtain?
Ok wait... the description says Sept 18th 1947... but the video title screen says 1968. Plus that soldier at 9:04 (and elsewhere in the footage) is holding a Colt AR-15 rifle, model 001... first used in 1962. I think the description is a little off. LOL.
there's a dash and a blank after it, that's NARA speak for "from listed date to present day"
so it's not saying this video was released in 1947, it's saying this video is part of the category that runs from 1947 to whenever they archived and released it (probably late 90s to early 00s)
Any knowledge on the whereabouts of part 2?
i think it could of just been mislabeled, it says 'the end' at the last seconds of it.
last reply to omessage on this sorry lol catalog.archives.gov/id/4523801
@@jacobdockter3436 No need to apologize, I appreciate the reply and the information. Waited nearly a decade, after all.
@@comradeharley I actually emailed the archived to request full copy of the film but will cost some cash. so we need to start up a fundraiser on here lol - they told me they are unsure of how much it will be until i fill out the forms and send it into one of the third party vendors they work with
@@jacobdockter3436 In that case, I suppose we'll just have to keep an eagle eye out for a different upload of this film posted to RUclips or elsewhere. If it's somewhere, it usually ends up somewhere else eventually.
20:41 Oh Hell, this just turned into a Coleman Francis film! 😦
Did anyone else lose it at the flashlight scene?
This doesn't show all the torture the U.S. does. It should just show "name, rank, and serial number".
You got the part 2?
according to the national archives it never has been digitized fully
catalog.archives.gov/id/4523801
So, is the policechief with the guerillas?
What country were we invading in this film?
Excellent
My neighbor in 2009-2010 at Fiaher Hill Apartments in Vancouver, Washington was the dude with the glasses in the Abu Ghraib pictures committing f-cked up acts to the prisoners.
Small world.
I ended up getting props from Stanley McChrystal for some amateur volunteer domestic counterinsurgency hobbyist stuff that I did.
Worked with Michael Flynn for a bit before that.
I read later on, in a Wired magazine online article, that Stanley McChrystal and Michael Flynn, between the two of them, singlehandedly went in and fixed the problems, which were substantial, of the entire interrogation program in place at the time.
That is no small feat.
Those guys are awesome.
Heroes.
Best wishes to both of those gentlemen.
#Ihaveahighschooleducation
💀♠️🎯
The 320th MP Batt. was an absolute embarrassment to us all. If anything good came out of that situation it was to shine a light on the systemic effects of a breakdown in command and control. Weak leadership from the top down. Assigning tasks to units that are not properly trained or equipped to handle them. The Army tossed the 320th in that prison and basically forgot about them. There were constantly riots, food, water, and other necessities weren’t making it there in sufficient quantity or with regularity. And make no mistake, soldiers can and WILL degenerate into rabble under such circumstances. With a vacuum of leadership the MPs at Abu Ghirab started taking their cues and eventually direct orders from the military intelligence guys detailed to the prison. That is a major no-no because MI loves to get other people to do their dirty work. I was in the 173rd Airborne in Afghanistan and my leadership was for the most part quite good. The junior officers and NCOs were outstanding. So believe me, we looked at Abu Ghirab with absolute contempt on multiple levels.
Yep the old flashlight trick.
During interrogation I would start some small talk so they give me good lunch and coffee, then very politely answer half of their questions with lies. I lie as much as I can ;) The other half, the one that can be cross-examined, tell harmless partial truth or nothing.
Why wouldn't you cooperate with the Americans? Did they do something to your people?
@@ticotube2501 I love America and I like most Americans. However, I would not cooperate with anyone who is trying to interrogate me, no matter which country they are from. I also hate cops. :)
@@misterstrongerman Why is that?
@@ticotube2501 Because any interrogation is involuntary act, therefore must be resisted. If it is voluntary, it is called conversation and not interrogation. As for why I hate cops, because they don't give a s*it about the law, they obey illegal orders and do not care about the consequences for other people. I personally am victim of police crimes, so I hate them.
gotta love how they used the quiet, polite interrogator as the tough guy in interview 2, i guess the skinny babyface is a particularly scary character to central american guerrilla types
This is how we got rocked in ‘nam where old young and kids fight wars. Be a fool thinking you’ll fight a man most of the time.
1:02 rip jeep
They missed the part where you wire them up to car batteries and drill their kneecaps...#Guantanamo
Thats why theres a part 2
Except that never happened at Guantanamo.
Drill their kneecaps? At gitmo? No, no, no. My sweet summer child, the US CIA would NEVER torture someone...
...in a way that would leave such obvious marks! Gotta soften them up with sleep deprivation by tying them up so they have to stand for, say, 72 hours to start.
Then someone spins the colorful wheel to see which tactic is next. Everyone stands around and cheers for it to stop on their personal favorite.
"Electric shocks!" "Rubber pipe beating!" "Waterboarding!" "Mock execution!"
Sighs and a groan are heard across the room as it stops, but not on any of those.
The cocky jag guy in the back of the room, that nobody likes because he always acts like he's compensating for shortcomings other than just his height, lets out an excited "yes!" under his breath.
"Well, DeSantis, looks you're the winner this time. It's 'force-feeding'. We'll start at zero nine thirty."
What an embarrassment for all involved.
1968
21:16 what women do to men...they send in their g friends to test the men.
27:33 ?????
_BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!_
Yeah 😳 lemme keep my eyes open.
Even though more than a half-century has passed for me, those are the uniforms and weapons I was well familiar with. I can't identify anything the soldiers of today wear and carry... they may as well be from Mars.
good cop bad cop gitmo the best
This works for western prisoners in the west. Not for africans.
You sound like its from personal experience
the flashlight....the rifle...both...the road or the field or the road and the flashlight....ah aha hhh