I love both bands and it's disappointing that these two great artists don't get on well with each other. And yet I've never heard Thom speak about another artist in that horrible way.
He doesn't. His version of abuse is the absence of praise. He'll say something like "you're the only good thing in the charts" as apposed to saying everything is rubbish.
Roger Waters going on public forums like this calling Yorke a prick and a self-obsessed narcissist is the reason that Thom can't and won't take him seriously. Just saying.
@Jcorb Sounds to me like they had emails back and forth and Waters (in what I imagine is the same tone he had used in pissing off the rest of Pink Floyd back in the 80s) was quite upset that Yorke wasn't on the same page as him.
ExileOnDaytonStreet Yep, it's no surprise that he's essentially forced out all of his band members as well as his greatest ever producer for trivial offenses... really just his egomania at play. Nice name btw.
@jcorb What's interesting to me is how Waters has no issues playing Australia or the United States or Europe or the UK, etc. Because those countries have clean human rights records, right? I think the point Yorke has made is a pretty simple one, don't punish the people for what the government does.
@@growingmelancholy8374 Thom said he doesn't support Trump but no one cancelled gigs in the US over him meanwhile Roger capitalized on Trump by playing shows along the southern US border. He also stated that Jonny's wife is Israeli and Roger tried driving a wedge between the band and Nigel to try to manipulate them into cancelling their Tel Aviv gig. Thom being sarcastic and dismissive of Roger is how I think most people would react, too. After all, Roger has quite the history of trying to force people he doesn't like to do things by being a snotty prick. Still waiting on that Animals remix...
yeah and looks like david is the right one, see how roger gains validation off the crowd and then instantly goes on to slander him more when he clearly doesn’t actually know the fella and is too driven by ego
If you had "a long email exchange", at the end of which he decided you were wrong and refused to do what you wanted... then the conversation has been had. You don't want to "just have a conversation", you want him to agree with you at any cost.
@@karlconnolly3994 Shut the fuck up, commenting on every comment with the same copy paste. Someone played a gig and you force morals and motives to him when he was just sharing his art
He did just describe himself, when have you ever heard Thom Yorke bad mouth another artist?? Never cause the guy is class, waters ego is bigger than any WALL!!!!👍
Just respect someone's decision not to talk? If they don't want to get involved they don't have too? Thom yorke is someone that speaks and does indeed act when he wants to. Environment ect. In this case he had his reasons. Respect them and be respectful. Don't abuse him for that! He's not narcissistic or a prick. That's a nasty thing to say to someone you don't know. Don't form a false opinion on someone out of spite because you can't get what you want from them Roger Walters!
@@alisonharte76 thom is a very nice and funny guy, roger is the aggressor, but roger has always been an asshole. even in the Pink Floyd years he was a prick
Forming a false opinion of someone bc you can’t get what you want from them is what narcissists tend to do. It’s called splitting. Seems like Roger is prob the narcissist. Never cared for his music either. TY on the other hand - genius
And of course he said they had a long email discourse, so they did talk! He just didn't like that Thom didn't bow down to his superior intellect. Pretty ridiculous.
There’s no irony here..explain,plz. Are you saying RW has been murdering innocent protesters as well as being a rock star?..that would be the only irony I can see.
@@cjmahoney No. But TY doesn’t support the oppressed Palestinian people in an apartheid state… he sings and entertains inside while the Palestinian people die outside.
The guy who sued his former bandmates after he quit because he wanted to force them to quit, too is calling Thom names because Jonny's wife is Israeli and they didn't do what Roger told them to do, pulling the "do you know who I am" card with them.
@@karlconnolly3994 I’m not talking about his personal views on Israel or Palestine. I’m talking about his perspective on Thom Yorke. Every true Radiohead fan realizes Thom has hated Pink Floyd for decades. If you’re confused there is a documentary where Thom actually discusses the greed of Pink Floyd.
@@MrGloriousg I’m thinking of the Palestinian people who support BDS along with Roger Waters (not Pink Floyd) … T Yorke just wants the money and cares nothing for the Palestinian people who the British oppressed colonised before setting up an apartheid state.
@@spacefertilizer There’s nothing more *real* than living in a state where those in charge are foreign and full of contempt … to the point where they murder your children… so anyone with human decency wouldn’t sing over their graves of the innocent, in a colonial state
@@karlconnolly3994 dude, playing in Israel doesn’t mean supporting its atrocities. I mean, if he shouldn’t play in countries that committed atrocities, then he might as well not play in the UK, US, Germany, Russia, so on and so fourth
The fact that Roger Waters (whom I dearly love and respect) used the words "self-obsessed narcissist" and didn't burst into flames proves that THERE IS NO GOD.
@@flazo9152 definitely not my friend roger is on another level, not denying thoms talent though, one of if not the best of his generation. (Still a dick)
He has no problem touring or receiving royalties from UK and the US . Which supplies arms that kills thousands every year all over the world. He wanted to use Radiohead for politics and they weren’t interested. He should have left it at that.
Also it's not one of the asks in the BDS movement which is the Palestinian-lead movement that conscientious musicians like Roger are following, though more and more think like Chomsky that US should also be a target of boycotts, given their funding of genocide currently and historically.
@@karlconnolly3994 he's not supporting it. U do know there is radiohead fans in Israel and not all people in Israel support what they're government is even doing so no he is not endourcing a far right agenda at all
Spidy151 Yorke defied the wishes of BDS and the Palestinian people... playing in and normalizing apartheid Israel as a normal democracy... when it’s in fact a british/American colony in the ME with nuclear warheads.
@@underated17best singer of all time Tom Yourke????? Lmaooooooooo YOU LITERALLY KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT SINGING!!!!!!! Matt Bellamy and Bruce Dickinson absolutely Crushs Tom Yourke into 1.000 pieces on singing level.
He's effortlessly justifying Thom's actions here, throwing insults at a guy he doesn't know, calling him narcissistic. Pretty rich from the guy who made The Wall.
@@priscillaeyles3301 He may be sometime a bit self indulgent, but without him, Pink Floyd wouldn't have reached the heights and wouldn't have the status it has today. Hell, they would've probably been just an underground band or something.
@@TheTurkishKebabExperience I’m not sure why you’re replying since your response doesn’t even make sense but is rather irrelevant to what the person above you said.
michael clarke So tell me what that has to do with being a good musician? Who fucking cares what their political views are. We’re not talking about that. We’re talking about the music they make, nothing else, end of story. Just because you disagree with people on their politics doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy their art
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@@levibeam100 The video is about TY playing in Israel... there’s no denying anyone’s musical ability, but their judgment... did you agree with bands playing in SA during apartheid?
Don’t they? British irony’ is something employed with intention. It’s a form of humour, something crafted. Roger doesn’t mean to be ironic in this clip. He is completely serious… it is ironic for sure, cos he’s doesn’t see his own arrogance. It’s ironic, even a little comic. But it’s not what we mean by ‘British irony’
It’s about playing in the oppressive,sectarian American colony know as Israel..Roger won’t..Thom will..for the right price..even if the money is blood money.
@@karlconnolly3994 do you have an off button man? playing in a country doesn’t mean endorsing it’s government, and it’s not the peoples fault that they have a very bad government. just shut the fuck up bro, roger is an asshole, and has been since he finished the wall.
All Thom Yorke does is whine. And all his songs SUCK. Roger is right on point- thom yorke is a prick. Radiohead are whiny, boring, pretentious, most over rated tripe.
If Roger really cared about the Palestinians he'd allow these artists to perform for the majority of innocent masses who have been deprived of music because of him...
Roger is supporting the BDS as do the Palestinian people… they have as Radio Head not to play… but the pompous English imperialist pricks ignored them.
Not to deny that TY and RW both exhibit narcissistic traits, but I shudder to think what would happen if artists boycotted all countries associated with atrocities … pretty much leaves us with Bhutan (and they may well have skeletons too). TY and RH have chosen to engage with Israeli fans; JGs wife is Israeli, and Israel was where they first hit big. Boycotting Israel would be pretty hypocritical for this particular band.
Well I must have a say here, I love Roger waters and PF and everything they have done for rock music, and I agree with Roger waters politically on many things especially foreign policy and our (US) toxic battered wife syndrome relationship with Israel. But I also love Radiohead the band, Thom Yorke is himself a genius even if he is a lifestyle liberal with TDS, and Roger is an opinionated overly emotional asshole I think he’d admit it first. I’d really love to hear unbiased story of what was said to whom or how it was delivered. It would be really disappointing to see Thom say something like “Israel’s money is good here” as picky as they are with interviews and chowing to sit down with clowns like Stephen Colbert before showing up to their RockNroll HOF induction is really confusing.
It's a shame, because I'm a huge fan of the work of both Waters and Yorke. I honestly think it comes down to a different conception of what art should be (I think this explains the difference between Roger and David as well). For Roger, art is inherently political-the artist has a voice and as such should use it to make outward and tangible commentary and change. I came away from Roger's show the most politically invigorated I have from any concert I've ever attended. And it does make a difference; there were protesters for and against him outside, people handing out leaflets, the screens onstage held very clear, direct, and evidenced political messages. For Yorke (and Gilmour), art can be something far more inward. It can be beautiful for the sake of beauty, separate from the injustices of the world, escapism (but not always just that). Art can deal with the personal, the emotional, not necessarily the outward and political. I walked away from Yorke's show more profoundly emotionally impacted than I have from any other concert because of the sheer beauty of the music itself.
It's a very interesting debate and of course it's a subjective one, because how can we really definitively say what the purpose of art should be? Obviously it can be perceived both ways, and I definitely see the value in both perspectives.
Interesting, either way though the point is that Yorke and co have made political statements in albums such as Hail To The Thief which is a reference to George Bush,Tony Blair & the Iraq war. Yorke also has a band called 'Atoms for Peace!! So for him to claim that music shouldn't be political is a hit rich & a convenient erasure of their past output & stances, when the topic of 'politics' & their lack of support for Palestine becomes too difficult for them to justifiably defend. Apart from in the naff way of claiming you have 'Palestinian friends' and that Johnny's wife is Israeli so that makes it ok to cross the picket line. Like saying 'I'm not racist, I have black friends and my friend married a black woman'.
I dont agree with the Radiohead chaps about playing in Israel but its hardly going to stop the occupation. Ive never heard Thom talk about another musician like Roger soeaks here. Its unfortunate
waters insults so many artists, only in this one single interview, that are, in my opinion, all better than him. Nick Cave sings, looks, writes and treats himself better than Waters, as well as Thom Yorke does. I mean, c'mon, what is he trying to do? As soon as he startet to talk and sing and write lyrics, all were ironic or full of hate about seemingly anything (society, time, life at all, Thatcher, dogs and pigs and walls and cuts and everything...). The artists he insults instead wrote songs about love and hope and joy. Only because he is old and grumpy and unable to feel or write about love and joy he shouldn't insult other artists. As if the people of a country are to blame for the actions of their government... Even the interviewers are trying not to laugh.
I adore Thom Yorke... he is a bit of a synical twat, and I would appreciate his support of an oppressed Palestine... however , I trust that he (and Radiohead) take into account many considerations in there decisions, they are driven by many factors , and as a result they will naturally clash with others on moral choices.
that is exactly how i viewed it. neither do i support israel not palestine, and i may not have a deeper knowledge as to why thom would perform in israel in 2017 and onwards despite the humanitarian issues that followed through in palestine, but i respect his decision (assuming that they have made careful decisions for what they want to achieve)
I ran into Thom Yorke in a grocery store in Los Angeles once. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw Thom Yorke trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
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I once caught him loosening the railings in a disabled toilet, and when I asked what he was doing he said 'I'm Thom Yorke. I'm in Radiohead. I can do whatever I please.' Then he walked away, whistling 'Creep'.
Let’s see, who was the one who left behind two band members because he cared about his band more than his friends, left the band and tried to actually take the name for himself, and played a concert in Israel floating pigs in the air plastered with the Star of David?
Being a fan of Pink Floyd (most recently) and Radiohead, I do not wish to see any of this drama ever again. The israeli-palestinian conflict is farrrr worse than i expected, and cases of extremism can be seen in my country (which was rare). Art is of course, subjective/multifaceted. (Not proving a point, just providing my view)
Thom Yorke doesn't agree with cultural boycotts. So the fact that he played in Israel doesn't entail that he agrees with Israeli policy. Does anyone really think that had radiohead refused to play for the Israeli fans, that somehow the Israeli government would loose its support from the U.S. to continue annexing territory and commit crimes against Palestinians? Waters was frustrated because he didn't agree with his tactic. It's ridiculous to call Yorke a "narcissistic prick" after hearing how self-absorbed The Wall is.
It’s ignoble the way roger waters clings to this conflict seemingly more to gather attention to himself. You risk doing more harm than good if you don’t have integrity. Just noise, a clanging gong
Roger Waters is a nut. Him saying that about sounds like what I butthurt whiner would say about someone when they don't get their way. WAY too much projection going on here for such a short comment. Watch the recent Rogers Waters/Pierce Morgan interview and you will see why Thom has good reasons not to talk to someone as unhinged as that.
" that's it......I'm giving up the music business !......you've finally convinced me!....." . yes the situation is awful but Tel Aviv is very liberal for Israel and many people there don't want a wall...... Does it work ? yes. Is it a solution? no.
Roger is a way way way way better musician than Thom. And that's coming from an Israeli that loves Radiohead. But Roger and Pink Floyd are just in a different league than everyone else.
While Radiohead are good and my era I have to concede Pink Floyd musically and artistically are miles better, it wouldn't surprise me that Thom's ego is over inflated
Well, I don't know if this is sarcasm but if the main issue was he wanted to have a conversation with Thom but he says he refused, he can't then also say they had a long email exchange. That means they did have a conversation, and at the end of it Thom disagreed with him, which is of course his right. I disagree with Thom on this issue but if we had a civil discourse on the matter I would respect his point of view. I think what Waters really wanted was not just discourse. He wanted Thom to agree with him. When he didn't, he calls him a prick in a public forum. I think regardless of the issue they are discussing, this is the real sign of egotistical behavior: that a person you argued with didn't concede and agree with you. And rather than accepting that he didn't just dismiss you, but that he engaged in good-faith and tried to be civil, you simply trash him for not accepting that you are "objectively" right. That's an incredibly lame position to take and makes his bashing of Thom really hypocritical.
Waters has discovered the clout-chasing a bit late. But it's cute, I sure can't wait for this man, who could've been (just) part of history in a great way, to also being a geriatric snobby version of a prank vlogger.
The problems in Israel/Palestina is the main issue. But on a sidenote i think Roger Waters is the prick for insulting a fellow artist like that. Is that the way you think we should communicate to bring peace to the world Roger Waters?
I love both bands and it's disappointing that these two great artists don't get on well with each other. And yet I've never heard Thom speak about another artist in that horrible way.
Me too
He said the truth😹😹😹
Go look what he said about The Doors especially Jim Morrison 😂 love thom nonetheless
@@rygdoomed442 I wanna be wanna be wanna be Jim Morrison lol
He doesn't. His version of abuse is the absence of praise.
He'll say something like "you're the only good thing in the charts" as apposed to saying everything is rubbish.
Roger Waters going on public forums like this calling Yorke a prick and a self-obsessed narcissist is the reason that Thom can't and won't take him seriously. Just saying.
@Jcorb Sounds to me like they had emails back and forth and Waters (in what I imagine is the same tone he had used in pissing off the rest of Pink Floyd back in the 80s) was quite upset that Yorke wasn't on the same page as him.
lol because thom knew its waters who said it.. the one who taught him how to makin great album like kid a :p
ExileOnDaytonStreet Yep, it's no surprise that he's essentially forced out all of his band members as well as his greatest ever producer for trivial offenses... really just his egomania at play.
Nice name btw.
@jcorb What's interesting to me is how Waters has no issues playing Australia or the United States or Europe or the UK, etc. Because those countries have clean human rights records, right? I think the point Yorke has made is a pretty simple one, don't punish the people for what the government does.
@@growingmelancholy8374 Thom said he doesn't support Trump but no one cancelled gigs in the US over him meanwhile Roger capitalized on Trump by playing shows along the southern US border. He also stated that Jonny's wife is Israeli and Roger tried driving a wedge between the band and Nigel to try to manipulate them into cancelling their Tel Aviv gig. Thom being sarcastic and dismissive of Roger is how I think most people would react, too. After all, Roger has quite the history of trying to force people he doesn't like to do things by being a snotty prick. Still waiting on that Animals remix...
Exactly what David Gilmore has to say about Roger.
Hahaha
Free palestine a$$h0le
#freepalestine
@@rawbobi Funny that, isn't it.
yeah and looks like david is the right one, see how roger gains validation off the crowd and then instantly goes on to slander him more when he clearly doesn’t actually know the fella and is too driven by ego
If you had "a long email exchange", at the end of which he decided you were wrong and refused to do what you wanted... then the conversation has been had. You don't want to "just have a conversation", you want him to agree with you at any cost.
Good point. People in glass houses, Roger.
The cost is to stop supporting a murderous,oppressive,sectarian and illegal state.
@@karlconnolly3994 Shut the fuck up, commenting on every comment with the same copy paste. Someone played a gig and you force morals and motives to him when he was just sharing his art
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Blah blah blah...
@@karlconnolly3994 so should he swear off doing shows in America?
He did just describe himself, when have you ever heard Thom Yorke bad mouth another artist?? Never cause the guy is class, waters ego is bigger than any WALL!!!!👍
Zip it up when you’re done
Muse, sadly
Stop murdering children you sick weirdos!!! You don't have land given by God to you! Fool.
Just respect someone's decision not to talk? If they don't want to get involved they don't have too? Thom yorke is someone that speaks and does indeed act when he wants to. Environment ect. In this case he had his reasons. Respect them and be respectful. Don't abuse him for that! He's not narcissistic or a prick. That's a nasty thing to say to someone you don't know. Don't form a false opinion on someone out of spite because you can't get what you want from them Roger Walters!
P.s I've met thom yorke twice and both times he was opposite to a prick. A nice bloke.
@@alisonharte76 thom is a very nice and funny guy, roger is the aggressor, but roger has always been an asshole. even in the Pink Floyd years he was a prick
Forming a false opinion of someone bc you can’t get what you want from them is what narcissists tend to do. It’s called splitting. Seems like Roger is prob the narcissist. Never cared for his music either. TY on the other hand - genius
And of course he said they had a long email discourse, so they did talk! He just didn't like that Thom didn't bow down to his superior intellect. Pretty ridiculous.
So...he's a phony Zionist pig? He's a gutless coward.
aaaaand.... Roger Waters wins the "most ironic statement of all time" award.
There’s no irony here..explain,plz. Are you saying RW has been murdering innocent protesters as well as being a rock star?..that would be the only irony I can see.
@@karlconnolly3994 are you saying Thom Yorke has been murdering innocent protestors?
Thom Yorke & Roger waters I love both of them
Roger Waters is the Narcissist here.
@@cjmahoney
No. But TY doesn’t support the oppressed Palestinian people in an apartheid state… he sings and entertains inside while the Palestinian people die outside.
Rogers Waters describing someone else, and himself at the same fucking time.
The guy who sued his former bandmates after he quit because he wanted to force them to quit, too is calling Thom names because Jonny's wife is Israeli and they didn't do what Roger told them to do, pulling the "do you know who I am" card with them.
The same guy who now an apologist for Putin's war and sends letters to Zelensky's wife advising them to surrender immediately
@@theremnants6655 Yeeeeup. Roger is a real piece of work. Good lyricist, but a real piece of work.
Have you changed your mind or still support starving, burning, slaughtering women and children???
@theremnants6655 how's that proxi war working out for you?? Also, stop committing genocide!!!
It almost seems like he’s describing himself!
No..he’s not supporting murder,oppression,theft and supremacy...for American blood money.
michael clarke I mean his insults didn't even mention Israeli-Palestinian dynamic. He just got his feelings hurt.
Mr. Waters defines himself and his generation in this clip.
@@karlconnolly3994 I’m not talking about his personal views on Israel or Palestine. I’m talking about his perspective on Thom Yorke. Every true Radiohead fan realizes Thom has hated Pink Floyd for decades. If you’re confused there is a documentary where Thom actually discusses the greed of Pink Floyd.
@@MrGloriousg
I’m thinking of the Palestinian people who support BDS along with Roger Waters (not Pink Floyd) … T Yorke just wants the money and cares nothing for the Palestinian people who the British oppressed colonised before setting up an apartheid state.
You know the old saying that goes : "it takes one to know one".
Then you’ll know one.
As someone who is a massive Radiohead (and Thom Yorke) fan, I believe him 😂
Some of the biggest projection I've ever seen considering Waters is notorious for being wildly narcissistic and egomaniacal.
hahah you read my mind, I was thinking exactly the same thing!
According to who David Gilmour? Not a great unbiased source if so.
@@priscillaeyles3301 - According to EVERYONE who has ever worked with him.
Was Narcissus admiring himself in a Moon Shaped Pool when he made these remarks?
Was Tom Yorke entertaining inside for big money while the Palestinian people where being murdered outside.
Your post is a nonsense.
@@karlconnolly3994 perspective please
@@spacefertilizer
There’s nothing more *real* than living in a state where those in charge are foreign and full of contempt … to the point where they murder your children… so anyone with human decency wouldn’t sing over their graves of the innocent, in a colonial state
@@karlconnolly3994 dude, playing in Israel doesn’t mean supporting its atrocities. I mean, if he shouldn’t play in countries that committed atrocities, then he might as well not play in the UK, US, Germany, Russia, so on and so fourth
The fact that Roger Waters (whom I dearly love and respect) used the words "self-obsessed narcissist" and didn't burst into flames proves that THERE IS NO GOD.
No, it just shows you have a very specific idea of how you think your version of 'god' should act/respond.
Kinda weird that Pink Floyd and Radiohead are two of my favorite bands of all time. And people often see me in the comments section. lol
A tad intimidated? Roger and Thom are two of the best musicians on this planet for sure!
Roger Waters >>> Thom Yorke
Thom wouldn't even touch Rogers boot
@@yes-wo7qn I support roger here but Thom is definitely a better musican
@@flazo9152 definitely not my friend roger is on another level, not denying thoms talent though, one of if not the best of his generation. (Still a dick)
Roger is not even the better musician of Pink Floyd, he for sure not better than Thom
He has no problem touring or receiving royalties from UK and the US . Which supplies arms that kills thousands every year all over the world. He wanted to use Radiohead for politics and they weren’t interested. He should have left it at that.
THANK YOUUUUU!!! Fake altruism at it's best.
False equivalence.
Are the UK and the US apartheid states?
He receives royalties from his music sales, not the UK and the US.
The UK isn't governed by talmudic law. Read more.
Also it's not one of the asks in the BDS movement which is the Palestinian-lead movement that conscientious musicians like Roger are following, though more and more think like Chomsky that US should also be a target of boycotts, given their funding of genocide currently and historically.
Roger Waters calling Thom Yorke a narcissist is a meta-narcissist calling the pot black.
love pink floyd and radiohead but tbh i can imagine both of these guys are probably pricks in ways lol
aren't we all?
TY wins for his support of a heinous far right thieving,murderous,oppressive,sectarian sate that is Israel..that is occupied Palestine.
liquidpebbles Not really, certainly not to the level of conceit that rock superstardom often brings.
@@karlconnolly3994 he's not supporting it. U do know there is radiohead fans in Israel and not all people in Israel support what they're government is even doing so no he is not endourcing a far right agenda at all
Spidy151
Yorke defied the wishes of BDS and the Palestinian people... playing in and normalizing apartheid Israel as a normal democracy... when it’s in fact a british/American colony in the ME with nuclear warheads.
"He's just a self-obsessed, narcissistic prick."
Well, it takes one to know one, I guess.
I am obsessed with Thom Yorke. I think he is the number one singer of all time and artist. Nothing can top Thom Yorke and Radiohead.
@@underated17 I love Radiohead too, but that doesn't change the fact that he is exactly what Roger said he is.
@@sombra1111 I wonder if he actually is like that or if it’s just an act.
Modengreen Dear by your Logic we can guess you're one as well Lmao🎉🎉😂😂😂😂
@@underated17best singer of all time Tom Yourke????? Lmaooooooooo YOU LITERALLY KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT SINGING!!!!!!! Matt Bellamy and Bruce Dickinson absolutely Crushs Tom Yourke into 1.000 pieces on singing level.
He's effortlessly justifying Thom's actions here, throwing insults at a guy he doesn't know, calling him narcissistic. Pretty rich from the guy who made The Wall.
How does that follow? Don't see the logic, because he made a masterpiece of an album he must also be narcissistic?!
@@priscillaeyles3301 He may be sometime a bit self indulgent, but without him, Pink Floyd wouldn't have reached the heights and wouldn't have the status it has today. Hell, they would've probably been just an underground band or something.
@@TheTurkishKebabExperience I’m not sure why you’re replying since your response doesn’t even make sense but is rather irrelevant to what the person above you said.
@@Bassman.9 don't mind my ramblings
They both are wonderful musicians.
One doesn’t support a state that murders protesters and steals their land.
michael clarke So tell me what that has to do with being a good musician? Who fucking cares what their political views are. We’re not talking about that. We’re talking about the music they make, nothing else, end of story. Just because you disagree with people on their politics doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy their art
@@karlconnolly3994 Apart from these.
10 January PF The Ballroom, University of Nottingham, Beeston, Nottingham, England
17 January PF Lawns Centre, Cottingham, Hull, England
18 January PF Fairfield Hall, Croydon, England
19 January PF The Dome, Brighton, England
23 January
PF
Civic Hall, Wolverhampton, England (cancelled)
23 January PF Theatre des Champs-Elysées, Elysée, Paris, France (broadcast on Europe 1 Radio)
24 January PF Theatre des Champs-Elysées, Elysée, Paris, France
2 February PF Palais des Sports, Lyon, France
5 February PF Cardiff Arts Centre Project Benefit Concert, Sophia Gardens Pavilion, Cardiff, Wales
7 February PF Royal Albert Hall, Kensington, London, England
8 February PF Opera House, Manchester, England
11 February PF Town Hall, Birmingham, England
14 February PF King's Hall, Town Hall, Stoke-On-Trent, England
15 February PF Empire Theatre, Liverpool, England
17 February PF City Hall, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England
22 February PF The Electric Garden, Glasgow, Scotland
24 February SB/DG BBC Maida Vale Studios, Maida Vale, London, England (Top Gear, BBC Radio 1, broadcast 14 March)
28 February PF Endsville '70, Refectory Hall, University Union, Leeds University, Leeds, England
5 March PF
Studio B, BBC TV Centre, White City, London, England (Line Up, BBC1 TV, broadcast 13 March)
6 March PF Great Hall, College Block, Imperial College, London, England
7 March PF University of Bristol Arts Festival - Timespace, Colston Hall, Bristol, England
8 March PF Mothers, Erdington, Birmingham, England
9 March PF City (Oval) Hall, Sheffield, England
11 March PF Stadthalle, Offenbach, West Germany
12 March PF Kleiner Saal, Auditorium Maximum, Hamburg University, Hamburg, West Germany
13 March PF Konzert Saal, Technische Universität, West Berlin, West Germany (two shows)
14 March PF Grosser Saal, Meistersinger Halle, Nuremberg, West Germany
15 March PF Niedersachsenhalle, Hannover, West Germany
18 March PF
Gothenberg, Sweden (cancelled)
19 March PF Stora Salen, Stockholm Konserthus, Stockholm, Sweden
20 March PF Akademiska Foreningens Stora Sal, Lund, Sweden
21 March PF Tivolis Koncertsal, Copenhagen, Denmark
30 March PF Le Festival Musique Evolution, Le Bourget, Aeroport de Paris, Siene St Denis, France
9 April PF Fillmore East, Manhattan, New York City, NY, USA
10 April PF Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, IL, USA
11 April PF The Gymnasium, State University of New York, Stony Brook, Long Island, NY, USA
12 April PF
Boston Tea Party, Boston, MA, USA
16 April PF Fillmore East, Manhattan, New York City, NY, USA
17 April PF Electric Factory, Philadelphia, PA, USA (two shows)
18 April PF Electric Factory, Philadelphia, PA, USA (two shows)
22 April PF Capitol Theater, Port Chester, NY, USA
24 April PF Eastown Theater, Detroit, MI, USA
25 April PF Eastown Theater, Detroit, MI, USA
28 April PF
Fillmore, San Francisco, CA, USA (PBS Network TV, live recording, no audience, broadcast 26 January 1971)
28 April
PF
Pritchard Auditorium, San Francisco, CA, USA
29 April PF Fillmore West, San Francisco, CA, USA
1 May PF Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, CA, USA
? May PF University of California Los Angeles, West Hollywood, Los Angeles, CA, USA
9 May PF San Diego, CA, USA (cancelled)
9 May PF Terrace Ballroom, Salt Lake City, UT, USA
12 May PF Municipal Auditorium, Atlanta, GA, USA
15 May PF The Warehouse, New Orleans, LA, USA
16 May PF The Warehouse, New Orleans, LA, USA
22 May PF Houston Music Theatre, Houston, TX, USA (cancelled)
23 May PF State Fair Music Hall, Dallas, TX, USA (cancelled)
24 May PF Kansas City, MO, USA (cancelled)
29 May PF Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, IL, USA (rescheduled to 10 April)
30 May PF Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, IL, USA (rescheduled to 10 April)
5 June PF Ludlow Garage, Cincinnati, OH, USA (cancelled)
6 June PF
Ludlow Garage, Cincinnati, OH, USA (cancelled)
6 June SB/DG Extravaganza '70 Music & Fashion Festival, Olympia Exhibition Hall, Kensington, London, England
27 June PF Bath Festival of Blues & Progressive Music '70, Bath & West Showground, Shepton Mallet, England (with orchestra and choir)
28 June PF Holland Pop Festival, Kralingse Bos, Rotterdam, The Netherlands (Stamping Ground, film)
12 July PF 1st Open Air Pop Festival, Reiterstadion Soers, Aachen, West Germany
16 July PF BBC Paris Cinema, Lower Regent Street, London, England (Peel Sunday Concert, BBC Radio 1, broadcast 19 July) (with orchestra and choir)
18 July PF Blackhill's Garden Party - Hyde Park Free Concert, Hyde Park, London, England (with orchestra and choir)
26 July PF XI Festival International de Jazz, Pinède Gould, Antibes Juan-les-Pins, France
30 July SB VPRO Pik Nik Festival, Gemeendecentrum, Drijbergen, The Netherlands (cancelled)
1 August PF Festival d’Aix-en-Provence, Parc de Saint Pons, Aix-en-Provence, France (cancelled)
5 August PF Popanalia Festival, Autoroute De L’Esteral, Biot, France (cancelled)
8 August PF Pop Festival Saint Raphael, Stade Municipal, St. Raphaël, France (cancelled)
8 August PF Festival de St. Tropez, Route Des Salins, San Tropez, France (Pop 2, ORTF 2 TV, broadcast 10 & 24 October)
12 August PF Fête de St. Raphaël, L’Amphithéâtre Romain, Fréjus, St. Raphaël, France
15 August PF Yorkshire Folk, Blues & Jazz Festival, Krumlin, Barkisland, Halifax, England (cancelled)
29 August PF Open Air Festival Heidelberg, Thingstätte Amphitheatre, Heidelberg, West Germany (cancelled)
31 August PF
Charlton Park, Bishopsbourne, near Canterbury, England
12 September PF Fete de L'Humanite, Grand Scene, Bois de Vincennes, Paris, France (filmed, not broadcast) (with orchestra and choir)
26 September PF The Electric Factory, Philadelphia, PA, USA
27 September PF Fillmore East, Manhattan, New York City, NY, USA (two shows)
1 October PF Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR, USA
2 October PF
The Gymnasium, Gonzaga University, Spokane, WA, USA (rescheduled to 4 October)
2 October PF Moore Theater, Seattle, WA, USA
3 October PF Moore Theater, Seattle, WA, USA
4 October PF
Open House, Seattle, WA, USA (rescheduled to 2 & 3 October)
4 October PF The Gymnasium, Gonzaga University, Spokane, WA, USA
6 October PF Central Washington University, Ellensburg, WA, USA
7 October PF Gardens Arena, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
8 October PF Jubilee Auditorium, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
9 October PF Sales Pavilion Annex, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
10 October PF
The Gardens, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada (rescheduled to 9 October)
10 October PF Centennial Auditorium, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
11 October PF Centre of the Arts, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
13 October PF Centennial Concert Hall, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
15 October PF Terrace Ballroom, Salt Lake City, UT, USA
16 October PF Pepperland Auditorium, San Rafael, CA, USA
17 October PF Pepperland Auditorium, San Rafael, CA, USA
18 October PF
Intercollegiate Baseball Facility, University of California, San Diego, CA, USA
21 October PF Fillmore West, San Francisco, CA, USA (with orchestra and choir)
23 October PF Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, CA, USA (with orchestra and choir)
25 October PF
Boston Tea Party, Boston, MA, USA
31 October PF
Black Magic & Rock & Roll, Cincinnati Gardens, Cincinnati, OH, USA (cancelled)
6 November PF Concertgebouw, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
7 November PF Grote Zaal, De Doelen, Rotterdam, The Netherlands
11 November PF Konserthuset, Gothenburg, Sweden
12 November PF Falkoner Teater, Copenhagen, Denmark (two shows)
13 November PF Vejlby Risskov Hallen, Arhus, Denmark
14 November PF Ernst-Merck Halle, Hamburg, West Germany
19 November PF
Civic Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, USA (rescheduled to Syria Mosque)
21 November PF Super Pop ’70 VII, Casino de Montreaux, Altes Casino, Montreux, Switzerland
22 November PF Super Pop ’70 VII, Casino de Montreaux, Altes Casino, Montreux, Switzerland
23 November PF Grosser Konzerthaussaal, Wiener Konzerthaus, Vienna, Austria (rescheduled to 29 November)
25 November PF Friedrich Ebert Halle, Ludwigshafen, West Germany
26 November PF Killesberg Halle 14, Stuttgart, West Germany
27 November PF
Neidersachsenhalle, Hannover, West Germany
28 November PF Saarlandhalle, Saarbrucken, West Germany
29 November PF Grosser Konzerthaussaal, Wiener Konzerthaus, Vienna, Austria (cancelled)
29 November PF Circus Krone, Munich, West Germany
5 December PF ORTF TV Studios, Buttes Chaumont, Paris, France (Volumes, ORTF2, broadcast 27 May 1971)
11 December PF Big Apple, Regent Theatre, Brighton, England
12 December PF The Roundhouse Public House, Dagenham, England
18 December PF Town Hall, Birmingham, England (with orchestra and choir)
20 December PF Colston Hall, Bristol, England (with orchestra and choir)
21 December PF Free Trade Hall, Manchester, England (with orchestra and choir)
22 December PF City (Oval) Hall, Sheffield, England (with orchestra and choir)
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@@chrisinfidel
You’re trying too hard, bro.
@@levibeam100
The video is about TY playing in Israel... there’s no denying anyone’s musical ability, but their judgment... did you agree with bands playing in SA during apartheid?
Well said.
My daughter told me to listen to him. Just did. 4 2 hours.
IM a pianist. I know Good music. TOVE you ve got mind. Dad❤
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people in these comments really dont get british irony lol
I don't get it cause I'm not from there. Id like to learn a bit! Now you've made me wanna research about "British Irony".
I don’t think they get English imperialism in the Middle East either.
Don’t they? British irony’ is something employed with intention. It’s a form of humour, something crafted.
Roger doesn’t mean to be ironic in this clip. He is completely serious… it is ironic for sure, cos he’s doesn’t see his own arrogance. It’s ironic, even a little comic. But it’s not what we mean by ‘British irony’
Neither do you, apparently, as this wasn't meant ironically. He really thinks this about Thom Yorke.
I love both bands
@Jcorb Don’t care gay boy
me too! they are my favorites
Everyone in these comments comparing their respective musical projects is completely missing the point.
just the usual. I'm bigger than you because because because
It’s about playing in the oppressive,sectarian American colony know as Israel..Roger won’t..Thom will..for the right price..even if the money is blood money.
@@karlconnolly3994 do you have an off button man? playing in a country doesn’t mean endorsing it’s government, and it’s not the peoples fault that they have a very bad government. just shut the fuck up bro, roger is an asshole, and has been since he finished the wall.
At least Thom Yorke doesn't lip synch his concerts.
Grega he should probably start, he sounds like an asian schoolgirls cat
Grega he is like 70 years old lmao
you think roger waters is lip synching ?
Not every single song, but he uses a lot of playback in concerts.
All Thom Yorke does is whine. And all his songs SUCK. Roger is right on point- thom yorke is a prick. Radiohead are whiny, boring, pretentious, most over rated tripe.
If Roger really cared about the Palestinians he'd allow these artists to perform for the majority of innocent masses who have been deprived of music because of him...
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Roger is supporting the BDS as do the Palestinian people… they have as Radio Head not to play… but the pompous English imperialist pricks ignored them.
Not to deny that TY and RW both exhibit narcissistic traits, but I shudder to think what would happen if artists boycotted all countries associated with atrocities … pretty much leaves us with Bhutan (and they may well have skeletons too).
TY and RH have chosen to engage with Israeli fans; JGs wife is Israeli, and Israel was where they first hit big. Boycotting Israel would be pretty hypocritical for this particular band.
Roger Waters doesn’t seem to understand that Thom Yorke has always hated Pink Floyd.
When did he say that?
The gist I got from Thom Yorke back in 98’ is that Pink Floyd were fucking hypocrites! Money!
@@MrGloriousg it is kind of funny in hindsight that they wrote that song. All they do nowadays is try to sue each other for petty stuff.
More of the reason to love thom yorke
wasn’t Pink Floyd one of key inspirations for Radiohead though? I can kinda hear it on Ok Computer
Roger was right 2024
Well I must have a say here, I love Roger waters and PF and everything they have done for rock music, and I agree with Roger waters politically on many things especially foreign policy and our (US) toxic battered wife syndrome relationship with Israel. But I also love Radiohead the band, Thom Yorke is himself a genius even if he is a lifestyle liberal with TDS, and Roger is an opinionated overly emotional asshole I think he’d admit it first. I’d really love to hear unbiased story of what was said to whom or how it was delivered. It would be really disappointing to see Thom say something like “Israel’s money is good here” as picky as they are with interviews and chowing to sit down with clowns like Stephen Colbert before showing up to their RockNroll HOF induction is really confusing.
Big talk coming from the bloke who wrote The Wall.
What’s wrong with a masterpiece like The Wall?
@@Bassman.9 self indulgent… that being said I still agree a masterpiece
Projection makes the world go round...
It's a shame, because I'm a huge fan of the work of both Waters and Yorke. I honestly think it comes down to a different conception of what art should be (I think this explains the difference between Roger and David as well). For Roger, art is inherently political-the artist has a voice and as such should use it to make outward and tangible commentary and change. I came away from Roger's show the most politically invigorated I have from any concert I've ever attended. And it does make a difference; there were protesters for and against him outside, people handing out leaflets, the screens onstage held very clear, direct, and evidenced political messages. For Yorke (and Gilmour), art can be something far more inward. It can be beautiful for the sake of beauty, separate from the injustices of the world, escapism (but not always just that). Art can deal with the personal, the emotional, not necessarily the outward and political. I walked away from Yorke's show more profoundly emotionally impacted than I have from any other concert because of the sheer beauty of the music itself.
It's a very interesting debate and of course it's a subjective one, because how can we really definitively say what the purpose of art should be? Obviously it can be perceived both ways, and I definitely see the value in both perspectives.
Interesting, either way though the point is that Yorke and co have made political statements in albums such as Hail To The Thief which is a reference to George Bush,Tony Blair & the Iraq war. Yorke also has a band called 'Atoms for Peace!! So for him to claim that music shouldn't be political is a hit rich & a convenient erasure of their past output & stances, when the topic of 'politics' & their lack of support for Palestine becomes too difficult for them to justifiably defend. Apart from in the naff way of claiming you have 'Palestinian friends' and that Johnny's wife is Israeli so that makes it ok to cross the picket line. Like saying 'I'm not racist, I have black friends and my friend married a black woman'.
Nice job at self description rog
I am a huge Thom Yorke fan but he is. So is Roger to some extent but much less because he’s older and wiser.
I dont agree with the Radiohead chaps about playing in Israel but its hardly going to stop the occupation.
Ive never heard Thom talk about another musician like Roger soeaks here. Its unfortunate
*99% of these commenters are now ashamed. Severely ashamed.*
*OP channel responding to and loving comments is now ashamed. Severely ashamed.*
No we weren't throwing mud at him, yea right!
waters insults so many artists, only in this one single interview, that are, in my opinion, all better than him. Nick Cave sings, looks, writes and treats himself better than Waters, as well as Thom Yorke does. I mean, c'mon, what is he trying to do? As soon as he startet to talk and sing and write lyrics, all were ironic or full of hate about seemingly anything (society, time, life at all, Thatcher, dogs and pigs and walls and cuts and everything...). The artists he insults instead wrote songs about love and hope and joy. Only because he is old and grumpy and unable to feel or write about love and joy he shouldn't insult other artists. As if the people of a country are to blame for the actions of their government...
Even the interviewers are trying not to laugh.
Love them both but Waters is a self absorbed prat.
i think it's impossible for york to do so, Johnny greenwood's wife is from Israel that would be weird to go in that politics
yeah....they're literally part of the israel's Jet Set ..lol
I adore Thom Yorke... he is a bit of a synical twat, and I would appreciate his support of an oppressed Palestine... however , I trust that he (and Radiohead) take into account many considerations in there decisions, they are driven by many factors , and as a result they will naturally clash with others on moral choices.
that is exactly how i viewed it. neither do i support israel not palestine, and i may not have a deeper knowledge as to why thom would perform in israel in 2017 and onwards despite the humanitarian issues that followed through in palestine, but i respect his decision (assuming that they have made careful decisions for what they want to achieve)
roger waters does not have any bit of genuine knowledge of the band or even yorke himself, i think he needs to work on his ego a bit more.
Gilmour is a Radioheads fan.
Roger and Thom strike me as eerily similar people.
They’re just not though. Thom isn’t an egotistical, self-absorbed maniac like RW. This vid is just some hardcore projecting
It’s the old Oxford vs Cambridge and Cambridge wins!
Pot calling the kettle black.
i recently just found out how much i despise roger waters
Thom yorke is an egomaniac. You can’t hide that sort of thing.
I don't get it, why is Roger describing himself?
I ran into Thom Yorke in a grocery store in Los Angeles once. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw Thom Yorke trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
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I once caught him loosening the railings in a disabled toilet, and when I asked what he was doing he said 'I'm Thom Yorke. I'm in Radiohead. I can do whatever I please.' Then he walked away, whistling 'Creep'.
Let’s see, who was the one who left behind two band members because he cared about his band more than his friends, left the band and tried to actually take the name for himself, and played a concert in Israel floating pigs in the air plastered with the Star of David?
Reference please? #CitationsNeeded
Look it up
Being a fan of Pink Floyd (most recently) and Radiohead, I do not wish to see any of this drama ever again. The israeli-palestinian conflict is farrrr worse than i expected, and cases of extremism can be seen in my country (which was rare).
Art is of course, subjective/multifaceted.
(Not proving a point, just providing my view)
Bit like yourself I would say !!!!!!! Wars are never broken with hate ……… the first line
Thom Yorke doesn't agree with cultural boycotts. So the fact that he played in Israel doesn't entail that he agrees with Israeli policy. Does anyone really think that had radiohead refused to play for the Israeli fans, that somehow the Israeli government would loose its support from the U.S. to continue annexing territory and commit crimes against Palestinians? Waters was frustrated because he didn't agree with his tactic. It's ridiculous to call Yorke a "narcissistic prick" after hearing how self-absorbed The Wall is.
History showed us multiple times that cultural boycotts work!!!pricks!!
Waters had seen much better days. A long time ago.
Of course Roger would say something like this to Thom. 🙄
Who the fk is roger without David? I know David, he alone is fine without roger
Really rich coming from him
I never liked Waters.. After this video even less i think..
Pot calling the kettle black much?
It’s ignoble the way roger waters clings to this conflict seemingly more to gather attention to himself. You risk doing more harm than good if you don’t have integrity. Just noise, a clanging gong
Roger Waters is a nut. Him saying that about sounds like what I butthurt whiner would say about someone when they don't get their way. WAY too much projection going on here for such a short comment. Watch the recent Rogers Waters/Pierce Morgan interview and you will see why Thom has good reasons not to talk to someone as unhinged as that.
From the guy whose own former bandmates called a fascist.
Hello pot meet kettle.
#freepalestine ❤❤❤❤
Roger calling someone else egocentric makes me laugh
How dare you disrespect Thom
People clapping and cheering, probably wax lyrical about Radiohead. Waters, for all his greatness, is a prick himself. He thought he was Pink Floyd.
His relationship with his mother reminds me of Eric Cartman
Pot, kettle, etc.
no lies were said here imo
The irony of Roger leaning into the "Radiohead is pretentious" narrative is wild. Look in the
mirror lad! 😅
" that's it......I'm giving up the music business !......you've finally convinced me!....."
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yes the situation is awful but Tel Aviv is very liberal for Israel and many people there don't want a wall......
Does it work ? yes.
Is it a solution? no.
Roger doesn't realize that he described himself
Seems a bit of a bully does Roger.
Roger waters calling others self obsessed narcissistic picks is very rich
Projection
I wonder what Roger Waters thinks about Ye, the artist formally known as Kanye West.
Made no differences hahahaha
Roger lost his mind...too much drugs...and thom thom is much more talented and smart then roger
gili agreed, but Rogers or any band members (not including Syd Barret) of pink Floyd did drugs.
Ever heard of the wall? lol
LOL.....you are clueless.....Roger doesn't do drugs....except cigarettes and alcohol.
You are talking about Syd Barrett.
To be fair, Roger Waters is easily the most talented musician in the history of ‘popular music’. But carry on.
Roger is a way way way way better musician than Thom. And that's coming from an Israeli that loves Radiohead. But Roger and Pink Floyd are just in a different league than everyone else.
While Radiohead are good and my era I have to concede Pink Floyd musically and artistically are miles better, it wouldn't surprise me that Thom's ego is over inflated
Pink Floyd musically and artistically are not better lol Radiohead is way superior
never has a statement been so wrong.
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@@josephk2496 radiohead is dull as dishwater. Dumbed down beep boop music with no guitar solos
@@Mxulinguitar solos! quality guarantee! i don't care about guitar solos!
Maybe look in the mirror RW. Pink Floyd were/are great - but how the others managed to work with you all those years I’ll never know
Roger Waters is objectively correct on this issue
Well, I don't know if this is sarcasm but if the main issue was he wanted to have a conversation with Thom but he says he refused, he can't then also say they had a long email exchange. That means they did have a conversation, and at the end of it Thom disagreed with him, which is of course his right. I disagree with Thom on this issue but if we had a civil discourse on the matter I would respect his point of view. I think what Waters really wanted was not just discourse. He wanted Thom to agree with him. When he didn't, he calls him a prick in a public forum. I think regardless of the issue they are discussing, this is the real sign of egotistical behavior: that a person you argued with didn't concede and agree with you. And rather than accepting that he didn't just dismiss you, but that he engaged in good-faith and tried to be civil, you simply trash him for not accepting that you are "objectively" right. That's an incredibly lame position to take and makes his bashing of Thom really hypocritical.
Roger doing some classical narcissistic projection.
Self obsessed say what??
You know what I like about Roger Waters ? Nothing 😂. David Gilmour is Pink Floyd .
Thom Yorke is better.
Because he stands on Roger shoulders !!!! 🤣😂😂🤣
Great
The title of the video should be "Roger Waters engages in projection for 90 seconds."
I wonder if he likes his music though
Waters has discovered the clout-chasing a bit late. But it's cute, I sure can't wait for this man, who could've been (just) part of history in a great way, to also being a geriatric snobby version of a prank vlogger.
god bless him
Nobody seems more self obsessed then Walters
as much of a narcissist as roger waters also is, he's not in the wrong here.
The problems in Israel/Palestina is the main issue. But on a sidenote i think Roger Waters is the prick for insulting a fellow artist like that. Is that the way you think we should communicate to bring peace to the world Roger Waters?