On putter price point. For me it’s the most important club alongside the drive, so they are cheap by comparison. I bought mine about 10years ago for £182 and people are buying the same model on eBay for £130 so they definitely hold their value. However, for that price they aren’t custom fit enough as opposed to a £425 Edel. I’ve just gone for a full Edel fitting and it was 2hrs and amazingly detailed. I’d rather pay the extra and be fitted if you want to spend the cash but off the shelf I’d go the other way.
@@neilcampion5265 Hi, Club fitting and the actual club are two separate things for me. I have no problem paying for custom fitting, but i find some the clubs are becoming over priced for the casual golfer since covid.
I bought my first SC in 1997 (Black Newport), received my second as a Staff pro in 2000 (Newport MidSlant). Shot my best round ever in a Sectional tourney. 65 with 21 putts. My wife games it now, she putts so well with it I can't get myself to take it out of her bag. I bought a mint X11 on Ebay, and loved it. However, i miss the blade design. I bought a shop model 2018 Laguna... This one is my dream putter. Perfect weight, my BlastMotion numbers are nearly perfect, and I love taking it out of the bag to practice with it... everyday. As a side note, if i chose to sell any of them i would receive at least the same price that i paid. So they are really not that expensive.
I game a Scotty. It's a Flowback 5.5. If I'm being honest, I don't putt any better or worse than the Wilson putter it replaced, but for some reason I get excited to use the Scotty every time I pull it out of the bag.
Just had a putter fitting done by one of the top 25 fitters... was an incredible experience. After a little tweaking to my stroke and hitting a bunch of different putters and getting info back on all of them. It came down to the Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2+ and the Bettinardi 28 Studio Stock. My numbers and feel were better with the Bettinardi so I went that route. I still will likely in the future pick up one of the Scotty Camerons. But they are both in the same price range. So yes... you get what you pay for in putters. A lot of putter brands are just getting more and more expensive, but the mid tier ones are starting to catch up in price. I paid 400-450 US for the Bettinardi/Scotty Cameron. Most of the other putters are 300-350.
I had a brand new 2022 limited run Special Select Jet Set Newport Plus which retails at over £1000! It’s absolutely beautiful, but it felt more like a collectors piece than a club I wanted in the bag. I’ve stuck with my 2002 white hot 2-ball which I’ve had from new and has always worked well for me. I’d definitely prefer performance over luxury.
I’m replacing my original Odyssey white hot 2ball blade with a new Odyssey White hot OG #7 w/Stroke Lab shaft. I really like the white hot insert so it was an easy decision. Especially at $200 less than a Scotty #7.
I still own my first putter. It came out of a set of clubs from Sears called Knight. Still a well made heel-shafted putter. It has great balance and the weight of it is something I look for in modern putters.
I have played an Odyssey putter for years and it worked well for me, but recently I bought a Odyssey Dual Force Rossie 1 at a yard sale for $10 just for fun. Well the Rossie hasn't left my bag since the first day I played it at the course. I love the balance and the feel of the ball off of the face. I take both to the practice green and the Rossie always wins out.
I have a scotty newport 2.5 . I've had virtually every brand in the past but it just suits me the balance is so good I feel all I have to do is set it in motion and let it swing all I think about is pace . One thing you didn't mention is looks and the Tiger factor it just makes you WANT to practice . So I have to say yes theyre worth it to me .
Love my Scotty! Tested 9 putters before landing on the phantom. Putters are the number one club in the bag to invest in, it’s the only club in the bag your guaranteed to use on every hole
I do have a Scotty Cameron California Monterey. It's been to the custom shop, blue weights, blue dots, blue pistolero grip. It has amazing feel but the plumbers neck just had too much toe flow. I bought a Bettinardi SS28 slot back with a single bend shaft, 1/4 toe hang and it's been $ on the course. So, no matter how shiny something is the specs need to be right for you. The milled face of both have excellent feel. I used a Odyssey Rossy for 25 years and the insert, which I thought was soft, is nothing like a milled face.
I tried a Newport Super Select and was really underwhelmed. I loved the ping PLD and tried the Scotty bc it was actually cheaper than the ping. The ping felt softer off the face and heavier even though they have the same weight specs. The stock lie angles I think fit my swing better on the ping (but that’s just me). Having said all that, I use the original Odyssey 2 ball and my putting is actually pretty good and it’s hard to justify the ping’s price tag just for the feel.
Great discussion. I just bought my son a Scotty Cameron for Christmas. It cost $429 US dollars and I got a 10% members discount, but it was still expensive. I told my son that for that kind of money, if he misses putts, it’s his stroke because the putter can’t make mistakes. I personally wouldn’t spend the money because I am doing all right with my Rife putter with a mid-size Super Stroke grip. I keep stats on every stroke I take and I average about 31-33 putts per round which is about right for my age/handicap level. I also have 2 Odyssey 2-ball putters, a Ping B-61, and an old Acushnet Bulls-eye putter which does remarkably well on short-to-mid-length. But, what I told my son is that putting is a function of feel and confidence. I think you can get feel with any descent putter if you practice often, but confidence comes with performance success. I think confidence with the Scotty Cameron is built in because it is about as important perfectly manufactured as a club can be. Maybe my Rife putter isn’t as perfectly made, but it works for me. I will let you know how it’s working for my son after we next play. Nobody questions whether the SC is a superior putter, only if you want to spend that much for it. Well, if your dad’s paying for it,then it’s worth it.
Totally worth it. Been using mine as only putter for years and years. Love the feel, love the results. And should you want to sell ‘em, the resell value is second to none so cost of ownership are not too bad. And they are just pieces of engineering jewelry ❤
I own 4 putters all picked up second hand. I have tried NO 7, 2 Ball Tens, 2 Ball White Hot , Kirkland KS1 . The best preforming is the Odyssey 2 Ball hands down £35-50 with a 5.0 grip £10 ebay . Every round is 18 stroke less than a blade putter. I picked a Kirkland KS1 at £140 weight system £50. It is ok, at homing in puts further than 20ft, simply not as good as 2 ball. For the coolness I really wanted the blade putter it to be the one : (
I found a Newport 2 2018 edition with the cherry red dots on the face for $280 at golf galaxy. It was an absolute steal and it was in great condition. I’ve been making more putts
I have four Scotties; Phatom X, Flowback 5.5, Studio 1.5 and a 20 yr old Studio Design 6 Prototype. I love them all, but my gamer is a EVNROLL ER2vB custom. It has the best face feel than any off my Scotties.
It’s worth it. As a recreational player I have had mine for over 10 years. Just bought a new special select Newport does it make me a better putter or make more putts probably not but I like it and they look amazing and feel even better.
I have tried more that 20 Scotty Cameron putters without finding one I like. Until the Newport 2 Select 2022. I like this putter but there are others I putt just as well with for less money. Putters are based on feel, sound and looks so it’s subjective. So I don’t discount most putters based on price but on its feel, sound and looks.
So I have been a center shafted putter for 15 years , Odyessy was the only game in town. I had a 2 ball , then a CG#7. I putted good but never really could tell a good put from a slightly missed putt. Since center shaft putters are rare my choices where limited. After checking out a few newer brands I noticed that putter where getting more expensive…or the same as a Scotty Cameron. The center shafted TaylorMade was $350 US and a Scotty was $399 …… Same as another Italian brand I thought was a good fit. I went with a Scotty , now I could not find one new and bought one from EBAY for $350 used ….. listen Scotty putters hold there value like a Ferrari and they are the best made, or they have brought the quality of all brands up. I now feel every putt that is pure …. They thing is I make many putts that don’t feel so great too. The big deal is if you have confidence with the putter and the technique of the player. I was an avid rock climber , I will tell you that stainless steel 604 lasts 5-7 years if installed near oceans. Stainless 603 ….. 100 years. Something is fishy with the cheaper more popular 604.
You can get a used Cameron Newport for 150 to 200 dollars on ebay which I did. But I"ve had great luck witth Rife putters, especially the beautiful Island series.
Just recently went to a 23 scotty from a taylormade hydroblast (both blades) and I control the scotty better and honestly have holed some great putts,,only had the scotty just over a week
When I got into golf I started looking at “best putters” and fell in love with the looks of the 2019 Newport 2. I needed it and found a used one online for $150 and I drove to get it. Fell in love and did more research and found an awesome community behind the resellers. At one point I tried going back to ping and I couldn’t do it. I went back 1 month later and now have more than one. I sent my gamer to the custom shop and collect head covers, ball markers, etc. It’s a fun community to be a part of and I don’t see me going back to any other brand. 10/10 recommend. The feel and sound is amazing and when you meet a fellow enthusiast at a course it’s a blast to talk about.
I have passed on a used SC (California Monterey) as well as an Odyssey, that I tried for a few days, in favor of a TM Ardmore 3 TP patina collection in what looked like "never used" condition (for a $100). I definitely feel better with a mallet. But also didn't feel the SC in less good condition than the TM was worth the asking price, near double. Has my putting improved? Yes definitely, but In the end, the improvement came from my will to improve it, i;e: many hours of drills on my living room rug and practice green, not from the putter.
I have a delmar and i love it Its the honey dipped color, does it help me? I dont know, it feels great so its not going anywhere, plus it hold its value soooooo no complains. I also have a 2ball odysey protype that ive used. I tinker with equipment but not putters at all lol
Ive never owned one and always wanted to. I just purchased a newport 2 with the full intention of using it for 10+ years, hopefully 25+ years. Every other club in the bag will be replaced at least 2-3 times in the next 25 years, but not the putter. find what you want and keep it for as long as it suits you.
I’m sure the same amount of rnd goes into all brands but the experience behind the rnd would be outrageously different. Just read about how Mr Cameron started making putters and at what age.
Game a Scotty Cameron. Love it. Does it perform much better than other brands? Probably not. But it looks premium, feels great and I feel confident with it in my hands. Putters are not a club I expect to change often so when compared to other clubs in the bag, I believe price doesn't matter as much.
I do have a Scotty, 33.5 inches in length 5.0 Special Select. It is my gamer. That being said I have at least 20 more putters. Was it worth 400 dollars? Yes, there was a fitting process and good customer service along with the actual product. That being said I don't really like the stock grip and for the price I would have loved a better head cover. The velcro feel like a hang on from the 90's. But I love the putter, it's magic.
Scottys are unbelievable don’t let anybody fool u. Costly yes, but they have feel that no other brand can replicate. The newport 2 plus is on my radar. I will always buy a new putter before driver:)
I love vintage golf clubs. Most of my bag was found in Goodwill stores, H$B Grand Slam Irons, Callaway 3 & 9 woods, and an Odessey White Hot putter. It cost me more to get the irons regripped & lengthened than I paid for everything. Get off the gear manufacturer hamster wheel & spend the money you save on instruction, or just more golf !
Difference is build quality - they may do the r&d for the product but if the build tolerances are too far out then you’re not getting the benefit. Tried a few recently and went for the scotty you could feel the difference in quality balance feel etc
Are Scotty's better made than other putters the perception is they are in reality a lot of other companies make just as good products. Tiger helped so much with his trusty model and so people thought if he has one so will I and putt like him. Again you are correct with the ego of people wanting to show they have one in their bag. I had one used it a few years but got rid of it and went back to the original Odyssey 2 ball a putter that suits me as you both comment getting fitted for a putter is as important if not more so than any other club.
If a Scotty, (or whatever other brand is the putter that works for you), the price isn't that bad in the grand scheme of things. Sure it can be daunting to have the cash to layout all at once, but if you get the right one and play it for years the cost per year is minimal. I've always been on a budget for golf stuff, but playing twice a week, I skipped a meal with the couple of drinks after the round for a couple months and it was paid for. served me well for 7 + seasons now.
Had a GOLO 3 that I bought used. Played it for one season, didn't see any marked improvement in my scores. I see Scotties used online and laugh because sellers want the retail price for a 2-3 year old club. Same with retailers. Putter has been on the shelf since 2020, and they refuse to drop the price. Then they wait for it to become 4-5 years old and then call it a 'classic' design. Yes the putters are nice. Yes they use quality materials. Yes everyone wants one for snob appeal. I refuse to pay $600 for a putter though. To be honest, over the last several years I have only seen a couple guys who were impressive putters and were bagging a Scotty. Many 'good' putters were using Odyssey putters or Cleveland putters. Right now I use a L.A.B. Directed Force putter. It gets me much closer on lag putts than other brands. I still make the same number of 3-6 footers, but do seem to make more 8-12 foot putts than with other brands. Now I would only find a Scotty in my bag if I won a raffle or a prize at a tournament.
I have a Flowback 5 (2020 model I believe) I actually quite enjoy the look and the feel of it. Is it leaps and bounds above other putters I own? Well…. At my playing level… I don’t know. If it’s an incrementally better putter than the rest… well, I seem to have paid quite the premium for what… 1% better than the rest? But it does give me a sense of confidence when I play… so that’s something I suppose about it’s quality
Have to admit, I have never had an interest in them. Refuse to pay the price to even try one. Its a putter. Any putter that is weighted right for it to feel good to the individual is enough. I've been using an odyssey white hot #7 with an insert coming loose at the toe. Feels too good to change. That was even too expensive and I got it used
No other golf club holds value like a Cameron. I recently switched to the new super select and sold an old oil can for way more than I bought it for. Any other clubs doing that on the regular? Nope
I’ve never had a Scotty , been a ping man for over 30 years but recently bought a Cleveland and love it . I have to say they are overpriced, and it doesn’t matter what you use , u can either putt or you can’t , some people are pretty good putters with anything .
Anyone who has owned a Scotty knows why they bought it. The feel is sublime. So many variables are available, weights, shape, face weight, counter balance, toe hang etc. My Select M1, with would never part with it. Aircraft aluminium and stainless steel wrap around. It just works. £429 but money well spent. Remember Bettinardi are more expensive and the other American made one who's name I have forgotten for now, begins with a P. Tiger uses one. For those who say good players don't need a Scotty, you are talking out of your starfish chaps
Own one and love it. Also the cost is relative. I mean you might buy it for 400 but after 5 years you can still sell it for 350 so it doens't cost that much only 50.
I have 3 Scotties: Futura, DelMar and a fastback, Absolutely love all 3. Switch off as my stroke dictates. Tried Odessey NO! Tried a Spider NO! The new Pings are interesting, nut never tried.
With a driver you can max out performance of the club, the driver will eventually become the limiting factor no matter if it's Jim from Accrington or Byson using it. A putters only limiting factor is the skill of the player.
Still using the original old white hot 2 ball putter, so unlikely to change as has been great for 20 plus years, saying that a friend changed to a Scotty camaron, Newport 2003 and it took 8 shots off his round, went from a 20hcp to a 12. So money well spent for him.
I call these putters 'Golf Jewellery', Its a fashion thing about having the correct brand .In general, people think the most expensive is the best . If they were so much better then all tour pro's would use them .The materials a putter is made from is not that important . I think the putter grip is more important than the head in many cases.
I purchased a Hogan Sure-in-One putter in the 90's for $125. That was Scottie price back then too. I loved the feel and the way it played for a very long time. A few years back, I upgraded to a Ping Sigma2 Wolverine H. I didn't really like the look, but it felt amazing. I dropped from an average 35-40putts per round to an average of 33 putts per round. ..,now how that relates to Scottie Cameron putters..I have always tried them, primarily because of the name... In around the year 2000, I found a Scottie that felt absolutely amazing. I just couldn't pull the trigger on a $250 putter. Since then I have always tried Scottie's on stores. I didn't find that feel. I have found the each one feels different. Last year I found a Scottie Phantom X that felt even better than the one I tried years ago. It was $450.,.ouch. But I purchased it. It is BY FAR the best feeling putter I have ever tried. I have now dropped a few more putts per round...even doing an incredible 28 ppr a couple of times. I don't think the name on the putter makes a difference or improves your playing. I believe the FEEL is the most important factor. That feel of the ball coming off so incredibly soft and controlled. It gives you confidence
Just sold a compounding sliding miter saw and splurged with the money and bought a SC GOLO 6. It was between the Mizuno OMOI M Craft 3 or the SC. The Scotty just felt better. Will i putt better??? Hell no, but I'll look impressive on the green😂
I have owned two Camerons. I still have the Del Mar among other brands but the Cameron is the one I go to. It isn’t a magic wand but it works better than most in my hands. That is why I have kept it in my bag all these years. I must admit that I am thinking of trying the Costco Kirkland putter. It is a good looking putter that seems well made. At about a third of the price of a SC putter, I might be worth buying. I would be interested in your impression.
Too much for me, appreciate that putter you use most so should be the club you spend cash on. However it is feel that matters I have a Ben Ross blade style putter, £70, in the shop I sank 8 out ten putts. It’s just as good on the course, I often think it’s the ape swinging the club that makes the biggest difference
I think they probably are for the amount of times they get used, I personally wouldn't buy one though as i love my odyssey stroke lab putter at less than £200.
It is only in line with the trend… the biggest cie in the world is a fashion hight luxury company… and this company has the biggest margins! People likes to have “what they consider” as beautiful and exclusive things… paying 200$ more for a putter… it is not so bad to exhibit a kind of jewel ;)
If you are already good at putting, then yes, they are 100% worth the money. You also will never replace a Scotty whereas your driver will likely be replaced every 2-3 years on average. I game a Scotty Golo 6.5, 35 1/2”, weakened loft by 1°, 15g weights. It’s butter smooth and I will likely never buy another unless I hand it down to my son.
You're paying 50% extra for a name trusted on tour. Odyssey are just as good and they could probably sell them for a lot more considering the amount of pros that use them. Anyone buying their first "real" putter should try an Odyssey.
@back9films had a blade style putter went to more moi style putter with a better alignment for more confidence and lowered my avg puts per round by 3 strokes
Putters I don't see any difference in them in quality based on price or name To me your technical ability at putting and green evaluation skills is what sees the ball going in the hole Each putter obviously has a physiological response as you hold it but I don't think a brand new putter which I love the look n feel of is going to turn me into a gun putter when my technical skills and green reading skills are the same level
“It’s not the arrow, … it’s the Indian” There are many QUALITY products on the market. … Or, as a friend of mine says, “I can miss a putt with ANY flat stick” 😂 I’m in the corner of “NOT worth it”. p.s. I had a set of golf clubs stolen, so … 🤷🏼♂️
Circle T putters are stupid money, period. In general SC are priced at what fools will pay. If you’re not good they won’t help. I have a tm x spider which was stupid enough, but works for me.
I always repeat test putters and dial it down to those that feel good, perform well and do the job day in day out. Always test them all but have never found a Scotty come anywhere near a selection and frequently a much cheaper option has won. Really do not see what all the hype is, maybe paying for the name and snobbery value.
Well here's the question that all should have asked how good of a putter are you? You still got a lot of work to do in that department than No Scotty Cameron is not right for you. How often can you repeatedly hit the center of the clubface in The Sweet Spot like tiger who's literally worn out The center of his face? If You don't have the skills to do find The Sweet Spot 8 out of 10 then a Newport 2 is probably not for you. For consistent Putters, Scotty Cameron is priceless as you see with many scratch handicap amateur golfers and over 50% of wins on tour last year used a Cameron putter.
100% worth it if you own one, does everybody need one? Absolutely not. No one sneezes at buying a Driver for nearly 600 pound but the same folk will also say a Scotty Cameron is overpriced when it’s the most used club in the bag per round…
I've used a putt putt putter with good success so why would I buy a SC. Every putter I've used works. What's the fuss? If you can't putt no classy putter makes up for it.
I think Putters are becoming too expensive. There’s no way I’d Pay over £300 for a SC when my Ping Anser works perfectly well and I’ve had it for 30 years. The Putting element of Golf takes time to understand, and getting to a level where you hole out consistently, doesn’t happen because you have £300 to spend.
Expensive for the sake of marketing position and profit. Sure they look nice and all, but no putter is going to magically make me a +5 golfer. I putt the same with a $12 used putter as I do with the Cleveland I bought this year(I'm a 1-2 hdcp). Every brand offers the same iterations of popular designs that are tried and true. If I was gifted one I'd try it. But I wouldn't pay for one full price. I'm confident I'd still be making 28-34 putts a round either way. Practice and playing on smoother greens makes way more difference. Our greens are beat up. 400-500 rounds a day. I make more putts when I can play nicer greens.
You can get a ping anser for 40 pounds now 2nd hand, Scotty is a copy of the ping, Odyssey as a copy of Scotty the designer of the Scotty worked for ping so get a ping and you have a Scotty. I have two collector Scottys, A laguna and a Newport. Never used! I use the Ping.
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Not me, I play with an Odyssey for over 10 years. In, general price of golf equipment is over price for the technology your getting.
I have a Scotty I’ve never putted better.
On putter price point. For me it’s the most important club alongside the drive, so they are cheap by comparison. I bought mine about 10years ago for £182 and people are buying the same model on eBay for £130 so they definitely hold their value.
However, for that price they aren’t custom fit enough as opposed to a £425 Edel. I’ve just gone for a full Edel fitting and it was 2hrs and amazingly detailed. I’d rather pay the extra and be fitted if you want to spend the cash but off the shelf I’d go the other way.
@@neilcampion5265 Hi, Club fitting and the actual club are two separate things for me. I have no problem paying for custom fitting, but i find some the clubs are becoming over priced for the casual golfer since covid.
I bought my first SC in 1997 (Black Newport), received my second as a Staff pro in 2000 (Newport MidSlant). Shot my best round ever in a Sectional tourney. 65 with 21 putts. My wife games it now, she putts so well with it I can't get myself to take it out of her bag. I bought a mint X11 on Ebay, and loved it. However, i miss the blade design. I bought a shop model 2018 Laguna... This one is my dream putter. Perfect weight, my BlastMotion numbers are nearly perfect, and I love taking it out of the bag to practice with it... everyday.
As a side note, if i chose to sell any of them i would receive at least the same price that i paid. So they are really not that expensive.
I game a Scotty. It's a Flowback 5.5. If I'm being honest, I don't putt any better or worse than the Wilson putter it replaced, but for some reason I get excited to use the Scotty every time I pull it out of the bag.
Just had a putter fitting done by one of the top 25 fitters... was an incredible experience. After a little tweaking to my stroke and hitting a bunch of different putters and getting info back on all of them. It came down to the Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2+ and the Bettinardi 28 Studio Stock. My numbers and feel were better with the Bettinardi so I went that route. I still will likely in the future pick up one of the Scotty Camerons. But they are both in the same price range. So yes... you get what you pay for in putters. A lot of putter brands are just getting more and more expensive, but the mid tier ones are starting to catch up in price. I paid 400-450 US for the Bettinardi/Scotty Cameron. Most of the other putters are 300-350.
I had a brand new 2022 limited run Special Select Jet Set Newport Plus which retails at over £1000! It’s absolutely beautiful, but it felt more like a collectors piece than a club I wanted in the bag. I’ve stuck with my 2002 white hot 2-ball which I’ve had from new and has always worked well for me. I’d definitely prefer performance over luxury.
I’m replacing my original Odyssey white hot 2ball blade with a new Odyssey White hot OG #7 w/Stroke Lab shaft. I really like the white hot insert so it was an easy decision. Especially at $200 less than a Scotty #7.
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@@back9films in my old age I’ve found the 2ball alignment assist distracting on backswing.
I still own my first putter. It came out of a set of clubs from Sears called Knight. Still a well made heel-shafted putter. It has great balance and the weight of it is something I look for in modern putters.
I have played an Odyssey putter for years and it worked well for me, but recently I bought a Odyssey Dual Force Rossie 1 at a yard sale for $10 just for fun. Well the Rossie hasn't left my bag since the first day I played it at the course. I love the balance and the feel of the ball off of the face. I take both to the practice green and the Rossie always wins out.
I have a scotty newport 2.5 . I've had virtually every brand in the past but it just suits me the balance is so good I feel all I have to do is set it in motion and let it swing all I think about is pace .
One thing you didn't mention is looks and the Tiger factor it just makes you WANT to practice .
So I have to say yes theyre worth it to me .
Love my Scotty! Tested 9 putters before landing on the phantom. Putters are the number one club in the bag to invest in, it’s the only club in the bag your guaranteed to use on every hole
When I think of putters I think Ping 1st. I have a Ping Anser 2d. And I love it and it was expensive enough for me and I just started
Game a T22 Newport 2 in the summer and a GSS Tour Rat in the winter (swap to change feel on slower greens) both worth every penny
I have just got a Odyssey 11 Tour Lined putter and it’s fantastic.
I do have a Scotty Cameron California Monterey. It's been to the custom shop, blue weights, blue dots, blue pistolero grip. It has amazing feel but the plumbers neck just had too much toe flow. I bought a Bettinardi SS28 slot back with a single bend shaft, 1/4 toe hang and it's been $ on the course. So, no matter how shiny something is the specs need to be right for you. The milled face of both have excellent feel. I used a Odyssey Rossy for 25 years and the insert, which I thought was soft, is nothing like a milled face.
I tried a Newport Super Select and was really underwhelmed. I loved the ping PLD and tried the Scotty bc it was actually cheaper than the ping. The ping felt softer off the face and heavier even though they have the same weight specs. The stock lie angles I think fit my swing better on the ping (but that’s just me). Having said all that, I use the original Odyssey 2 ball and my putting is actually pretty good and it’s hard to justify the ping’s price tag just for the feel.
Great discussion. I just bought my son a Scotty Cameron for Christmas. It cost $429 US dollars and I got a 10% members discount, but it was still expensive. I told my son that for that kind of money, if he misses putts, it’s his stroke because the putter can’t make mistakes. I personally wouldn’t spend the money because I am doing all right with my Rife putter with a mid-size Super Stroke grip. I keep stats on every stroke I take and I average about 31-33 putts per round which is about right for my age/handicap level. I also have 2 Odyssey 2-ball putters, a Ping B-61, and an old Acushnet Bulls-eye putter which does remarkably well on short-to-mid-length. But, what I told my son is that putting is a function of feel and confidence. I think you can get feel with any descent putter if you practice often, but confidence comes with performance success. I think confidence with the Scotty Cameron is built in because it is about as important perfectly manufactured as a club can be. Maybe my Rife putter isn’t as perfectly made, but it works for me. I will let you know how it’s working for my son after we next play. Nobody questions whether the SC is a superior putter, only if you want to spend that much for it. Well, if your dad’s paying for it,then it’s worth it.
Im getting a custom Bettinardi this year and I cant wait for it
Totally worth it. Been using mine as only putter for years and years. Love the feel, love the results. And should you want to sell ‘em, the resell value is second to none so cost of ownership are not too bad. And they are just pieces of engineering jewelry ❤
I own 4 putters all picked up second hand. I have tried NO 7, 2 Ball Tens, 2 Ball White Hot , Kirkland KS1 .
The best preforming is the Odyssey 2 Ball hands down £35-50 with a 5.0 grip £10 ebay . Every round is 18 stroke less than a blade putter.
I picked a Kirkland KS1 at £140 weight system £50. It is ok, at homing in puts further than 20ft, simply not as good as 2 ball. For the coolness I really wanted the blade putter it to be the one : (
I found a Newport 2 2018 edition with the cherry red dots on the face for $280 at golf galaxy. It was an absolute steal and it was in great condition. I’ve been making more putts
Looked at a Scotty Cameron Newport 2. Decided on the new Ping Anser. No regrets here.
I am very happy with my Scotty Cameron Newport 2.
Just bought the squareback version, absolutely love it and feels so much better than my cobra one I had
The best!!!! No question.
I have four Scotties; Phatom X, Flowback 5.5, Studio 1.5 and a 20 yr old Studio Design 6 Prototype. I love them all, but my gamer is a EVNROLL ER2vB custom. It has the best face feel than any off my Scotties.
It’s worth it. As a recreational player I have had mine for over 10 years. Just bought a new special select Newport does it make me a better putter or make more putts probably not but I like it and they look amazing and feel even better.
I have tried more that 20 Scotty Cameron putters without finding one I like. Until the Newport 2 Select 2022. I like this putter but there are others I putt just as well with for less money. Putters are based on feel, sound and looks so it’s subjective. So I don’t discount most putters based on price but on its feel, sound and looks.
So I have been a center shafted putter for 15 years , Odyessy was the only game in town. I had a 2 ball , then a CG#7. I putted good but never really could tell a good put from a slightly missed putt. Since center shaft putters are rare my choices where limited. After checking out a few newer brands I noticed that putter where getting more expensive…or the same as a Scotty Cameron. The center shafted TaylorMade was $350 US and a Scotty was $399 …… Same as another Italian brand I thought was a good fit. I went with a Scotty , now I could not find one new and bought one from EBAY for $350 used ….. listen Scotty putters hold there value like a Ferrari and they are the best made, or they have brought the quality of all brands up. I now feel every putt that is pure …. They thing is I make many putts that don’t feel so great too. The big deal is if you have confidence with the putter and the technique of the player. I was an avid rock climber , I will tell you that stainless steel 604 lasts 5-7 years if installed near oceans. Stainless 603 ….. 100 years. Something is fishy with the cheaper more popular 604.
You can get a used Cameron Newport for 150 to 200 dollars on ebay which I did. But I"ve had great luck witth Rife putters, especially the beautiful Island series.
Great that you have one that works for you!!!
Just recently went to a 23 scotty from a taylormade hydroblast (both blades) and I control the scotty better and honestly have holed some great putts,,only had the scotty just over a week
They hold their value unlike any other golf club
When I got into golf I started looking at “best putters” and fell in love with the looks of the 2019 Newport 2. I needed it and found a used one online for $150 and I drove to get it.
Fell in love and did more research and found an awesome community behind the resellers. At one point I tried going back to ping and I couldn’t do it. I went back 1 month later and now have more than one. I sent my gamer to the custom shop and collect head covers, ball markers, etc. It’s a fun community to be a part of and I don’t see me going back to any other brand.
10/10 recommend. The feel and sound is amazing and when you meet a fellow enthusiast at a course it’s a blast to talk about.
I've got a PXG Bat Attack best putter I've ever used, still £299 though!
I have passed on a used SC (California Monterey) as well as an Odyssey, that I tried for a few days, in favor of a TM Ardmore 3 TP patina collection in what looked like "never used" condition (for a $100). I definitely feel better with a mallet. But also didn't feel the SC in less good condition than the TM was worth the asking price, near double. Has my putting improved? Yes definitely, but In the end, the improvement came from my will to improve it, i;e: many hours of drills on my living room rug and practice green, not from the putter.
I have a delmar and i love it Its the honey dipped color, does it help me? I dont know, it feels great so its not going anywhere, plus it hold its value soooooo no complains. I also have a 2ball odysey protype that ive used. I tinker with equipment but not putters at all lol
Ive never owned one and always wanted to. I just purchased a newport 2 with the full intention of using it for 10+ years, hopefully 25+ years. Every other club in the bag will be replaced at least 2-3 times in the next 25 years, but not the putter. find what you want and keep it for as long as it suits you.
I’m sure the same amount of rnd goes into all brands but the experience behind the rnd would be outrageously different. Just read about how Mr Cameron started making putters and at what age.
Yes I have 8 off them and I love them
Game a Scotty Cameron. Love it. Does it perform much better than other brands? Probably not. But it looks premium, feels great and I feel confident with it in my hands. Putters are not a club I expect to change often so when compared to other clubs in the bag, I believe price doesn't matter as much.
I agree I love the premium look and feel for sure!!!
I do have a Scotty, 33.5 inches in length 5.0 Special Select. It is my gamer. That being said I have at least 20 more putters. Was it worth 400 dollars? Yes, there was a fitting process and good customer service along with the actual product. That being said I don't really like the stock grip and for the price I would have loved a better head cover. The velcro feel like a hang on from the 90's. But I love the putter, it's magic.
Do you like the Scottie??
Scottys are unbelievable don’t let anybody fool u. Costly yes, but they have feel that no other brand can replicate. The newport 2 plus is on my radar. I will always buy a new putter before driver:)
I love vintage golf clubs.
Most of my bag was found in Goodwill stores, H$B Grand Slam Irons, Callaway 3 & 9 woods, and an Odessey White Hot putter.
It cost me more to get the irons regripped & lengthened than I paid for everything.
Get off the gear manufacturer hamster wheel & spend the money you save on instruction, or just more golf !
what about the cost of lab putters?
Difference is build quality - they may do the r&d for the product but if the build tolerances are too far out then you’re not getting the benefit. Tried a few recently and went for the scotty you could feel the difference in quality balance feel etc
Are Scotty's better made than other putters the perception is they are in reality a lot of other companies make just as good products. Tiger helped so much with his trusty model and so people thought if he has one so will I and putt like him. Again you are correct with the ego of people wanting to show they have one in their bag. I had one used it a few years but got rid of it and went back to the original Odyssey 2 ball a putter that suits me as you both comment getting fitted for a putter is as important if not more so than any other club.
If a Scotty, (or whatever other brand is the putter that works for you), the price isn't that bad in the grand scheme of things. Sure it can be daunting to have the cash to layout all at once, but if you get the right one and play it for years the cost per year is minimal. I've always been on a budget for golf stuff, but playing twice a week, I skipped a meal with the couple of drinks after the round for a couple months and it was paid for. served me well for 7 + seasons now.
Had a GOLO 3 that I bought used. Played it for one season, didn't see any marked improvement in my scores. I see Scotties used online and laugh because sellers want the retail price for a 2-3 year old club. Same with retailers. Putter has been on the shelf since 2020, and they refuse to drop the price. Then they wait for it to become 4-5 years old and then call it a 'classic' design. Yes the putters are nice. Yes they use quality materials. Yes everyone wants one for snob appeal. I refuse to pay $600 for a putter though. To be honest, over the last several years I have only seen a couple guys who were impressive putters and were bagging a Scotty. Many 'good' putters were using Odyssey putters or Cleveland putters. Right now I use a L.A.B. Directed Force putter. It gets me much closer on lag putts than other brands. I still make the same number of 3-6 footers, but do seem to make more 8-12 foot putts than with other brands. Now I would only find a Scotty in my bag if I won a raffle or a prize at a tournament.
I have a Flowback 5 (2020 model I believe)
I actually quite enjoy the look and the feel of it. Is it leaps and bounds above other putters I own? Well…. At my playing level… I don’t know. If it’s an incrementally better putter than the rest… well, I seem to have paid quite the premium for what… 1% better than the rest?
But it does give me a sense of confidence when I play… so that’s something I suppose about it’s quality
Love my scotty simple! A putter you like, feels good and a good fit is all that matters really
i own one and i use different putters now and then but the scotty has better feel . i may be in my head but i will never go back to my oings .
I have 3 of them. I just use and collect them. I don't trade nor sell them.
Love that!! Would be great to get a collection
Have to admit, I have never had an interest in them. Refuse to pay the price to even try one. Its a putter. Any putter that is weighted right for it to feel good to the individual is enough. I've been using an odyssey white hot #7 with an insert coming loose at the toe. Feels too good to change. That was even too expensive and I got it used
I have two Scotty mallets both bought secondhand at half the price love them both would never buy new
No other golf club holds value like a Cameron. I recently switched to the new super select and sold an old oil can for way more than I bought it for. Any other clubs doing that on the regular? Nope
I’ve never had a Scotty , been a ping man for over 30 years but recently bought a Cleveland and love it . I have to say they are overpriced, and it doesn’t matter what you use , u can either putt or you can’t , some people are pretty good putters with anything .
Anyone who has owned a Scotty knows why they bought it. The feel is sublime. So many variables are available, weights, shape, face weight, counter balance, toe hang etc. My Select M1, with would never part with it. Aircraft aluminium and stainless steel wrap around. It just works. £429 but money well spent. Remember Bettinardi are more expensive and the other American made one who's name I have forgotten for now, begins with a P. Tiger uses one. For those who say good players don't need a Scotty, you are talking out of your starfish chaps
Own one and love it. Also the cost is relative. I mean you might buy it for 400 but after 5 years you can still sell it for 350 so it doens't cost that much only 50.
What about the lab mez putters
I have 3 Scotties: Futura, DelMar and a fastback, Absolutely love all 3. Switch off as my stroke dictates. Tried Odessey NO!
Tried a Spider NO! The new Pings are interesting, nut never tried.
Play a Cleveland huntington beach mallet putter. Cheap and does the job and I think forgiving for a hacker like me
i own 3 scotties, but they hold great resale value
That is a great point mark!! They do for sure
With a driver you can max out performance of the club, the driver will eventually become the limiting factor no matter if it's Jim from Accrington or Byson using it. A putters only limiting factor is the skill of the player.
Only problem with a Cameron is hiding it with a false headcover to avoid it wandering off.
Interesting is that what you do??
Still using the original old white hot 2 ball putter, so unlikely to change as has been great for 20 plus years, saying that a friend changed to a Scotty camaron, Newport 2003 and it took 8 shots off his round, went from a 20hcp to a 12. So money well spent for him.
yes they are i own a NP2 .. there are brands that cost more actually.. Tulon cost 450
I call these putters 'Golf Jewellery', Its a fashion thing about having the correct brand .In general, people think the most expensive is the best . If they were so much better then all tour pro's would use them .The materials a putter is made from is not that important . I think the putter grip is more important than the head in many cases.
I purchased a Hogan Sure-in-One putter in the 90's for $125. That was Scottie price back then too. I loved the feel and the way it played for a very long time. A few years back, I upgraded to a Ping Sigma2 Wolverine H. I didn't really like the look, but it felt amazing. I dropped from an average 35-40putts per round to an average of 33 putts per round. ..,now how that relates to Scottie Cameron putters..I have always tried them, primarily because of the name... In around the year 2000, I found a Scottie that felt absolutely amazing. I just couldn't pull the trigger on a $250 putter. Since then I have always tried Scottie's on stores. I didn't find that feel. I have found the each one feels different. Last year I found a Scottie Phantom X that felt even better than the one I tried years ago. It was $450.,.ouch. But I purchased it. It is BY FAR the best feeling putter I have ever tried. I have now dropped a few more putts per round...even doing an incredible 28 ppr a couple of times.
I don't think the name on the putter makes a difference or improves your playing. I believe the FEEL is the most important factor. That feel of the ball coming off so incredibly soft and controlled. It gives you confidence
Until they make a Scotty camera in my price range which would be about $200. I'll stick with my Odyssey.
If you look at a SC Newport, and compare it to the Costco putter, the design is the same so that name is very dear indeed.
Just sold a compounding sliding miter saw and splurged with the money and bought a SC GOLO 6. It was between the Mizuno OMOI M Craft 3 or the SC. The Scotty just felt better. Will i putt better??? Hell no, but I'll look impressive on the green😂
Bought s Ping Anser milled 2012 from the Uk
Mint condition
For 125 euros
Im from canada
And i csn say its better looking thsn a scotty
I have owned two Camerons. I still have the Del Mar among other brands but the Cameron is the one I go to. It isn’t a magic wand but it works better than most in my hands. That is why I have kept it in my bag all these years. I must admit that I am thinking of trying the Costco Kirkland putter. It is a good looking putter that seems well made. At about a third of the price of a SC putter, I might be worth buying. I would be interested in your impression.
Scoty are made better then most other putters
Now play a taylormade spider brilliant used to play a odyssey 2 ball much happier with the spider
Too much for me, appreciate that putter you use most so should be the club you spend cash on. However it is feel that matters I have a Ben Ross blade style putter, £70, in the shop I sank 8 out ten putts. It’s just as good on the course, I often think it’s the ape swinging the club that makes the biggest difference
I think they probably are for the amount of times they get used, I personally wouldn't buy one though as i love my odyssey stroke lab putter at less than £200.
Cameron does need to join the real world of magnetic putter covers. Nothing more dumb then having to scratch my premium putter on the stupid Velcro
It is only in line with the trend… the biggest cie in the world is a fashion hight luxury company… and this company has the biggest margins! People likes to have “what they consider” as beautiful and exclusive things… paying 200$ more for a putter… it is not so bad to exhibit a kind of jewel ;)
If you are already good at putting, then yes, they are 100% worth the money. You also will never replace a Scotty whereas your driver will likely be replaced every 2-3 years on average. I game a Scotty Golo 6.5, 35 1/2”, weakened loft by 1°, 15g weights. It’s butter smooth and I will likely never buy another unless I hand it down to my son.
Scotty Cameron are to Golfers like Jordan's are to trainer enthusiasts!.
What putter do you use??
@@back9films just bought the White hot 12 after a fitting at Tour x in Wigan. 👍
@@back9films I have the new Oddysey 12.
You're paying 50% extra for a name trusted on tour. Odyssey are just as good and they could probably sell them for a lot more considering the amount of pros that use them.
Anyone buying their first "real" putter should try an Odyssey.
No, I have never had one that I got along with?
Do I want one? yes
Will I get one? probably not
What putter do You use?
Had a scotty now have odyssey 10 which I putt better with my odyssey just me
How come you changed Dan??
@back9films had a blade style putter went to more moi style putter with a better alignment for more confidence and lowered my avg puts per round by 3 strokes
Putters I don't see any difference in them in quality based on price or name
To me your technical ability at putting and green evaluation skills is what sees the ball going in the hole
Each putter obviously has a physiological response as you hold it but I don't think a brand new putter which I love the look n feel of is going to turn me into a gun putter when my technical skills and green reading skills are the same level
“It’s not the arrow,
… it’s the Indian”
There are many QUALITY products on the market.
… Or, as a friend of mine says, “I can miss a putt with ANY flat stick” 😂
I’m in the corner of “NOT worth it”.
p.s. I had a set of golf clubs stolen, so … 🤷🏼♂️
I would say no matter what you pick, GET FITTED. Like the look of evenroll putters
Yeah for sure!!!!
Poor line up for lefty's.....
Ive owned two and sold both, look good but overrated.
Im a seemore man now...
Guys, there is no craftsmanship going into any of these putters. You set a CNC M/C away and it produces the same thing every time.
Circle T putters are stupid money, period. In general SC are priced at what fools will pay. If you’re not good they won’t help.
I have a tm x spider which was stupid enough, but works for me.
Not gonna lie..if I see a club guy rocking a Scotty I automatically think douche. And I own one.
I always repeat test putters and dial it down to those that feel good, perform well and do the job day in day out. Always test them all but have never found a Scotty come anywhere near a selection and frequently a much cheaper option has won. Really do not see what all the hype is, maybe paying for the name and snobbery value.
Well here's the question that all should have asked how good of a putter are you?
You still got a lot of work to do in that department than No Scotty Cameron is not right for you.
How often can you repeatedly hit the center of the clubface in The Sweet Spot like tiger who's literally worn out The center of his face? If You don't have the skills to do find The Sweet Spot 8 out of 10 then a Newport 2 is probably not for you.
For consistent Putters, Scotty Cameron is priceless as you see with many scratch handicap amateur golfers and over 50% of wins on tour last year used a Cameron putter.
100% worth it if you own one, does everybody need one? Absolutely not. No one sneezes at buying a Driver for nearly 600 pound but the same folk will also say a Scotty Cameron is overpriced when it’s the most used club in the bag per round…
I've used a putt putt putter with good success so why would I buy a SC. Every putter I've used works. What's the fuss? If you can't putt no classy putter makes up for it.
Would you ever consider??
@@back9films if ever I'm given a left handed SC, sure! I very much like blade putters.
I think Putters are becoming too expensive.
There’s no way I’d Pay over £300 for a SC when my Ping Anser works perfectly well and I’ve had it for 30 years.
The Putting element of Golf takes time to understand, and getting to a level where you hole out consistently, doesn’t happen because you have £300 to spend.
Expensive for the sake of marketing position and profit. Sure they look nice and all, but no putter is going to magically make me a +5 golfer. I putt the same with a $12 used putter as I do with the Cleveland I bought this year(I'm a 1-2 hdcp). Every brand offers the same iterations of popular designs that are tried and true. If I was gifted one I'd try it. But I wouldn't pay for one full price. I'm confident I'd still be making 28-34 putts a round either way.
Practice and playing on smoother greens makes way more difference. Our greens are beat up. 400-500 rounds a day. I make more putts when I can play nicer greens.
You use your putter every hole. Love your videos but Scotty is worth every penny
Worth it that ugly spider is 350
putters are the lowest tech club in the bag...it's about the weight of the head and they all work the same.
You can get a ping anser for 40 pounds now 2nd hand, Scotty is a copy of the ping, Odyssey as a copy of Scotty the designer of the Scotty worked for ping so get a ping and you have a Scotty. I have two collector Scottys, A laguna and a Newport. Never used! I use the Ping.
Love that!! Do you ever use the Scottys?