I used to work demolition. Sheets of steel are pretty hard (impossible really) to break if you just hit them in them really hard. But if you pry them apart at the weak points that makes it much easier to shear them open. Haha my boss kept getting mad at me when I first started working there, he would tell me to "start" breaking something and come find him. I took "to long." Eventually he told me he was sorry for saying that because I did everything so cleanly and surgically. After a few jobs I got better at spotting weak points in things. I remember one job was an office building, the other guys were smashing up the walls with sledgehammers. I took down all the walls on a whole floor in a couple hours by pushing the walls from behind and popping out the screws. And instead of shoveling up rubble for hours, we just broke down the sheets of drywall with some box cutters, and in the garbage cart, they went. I did something similar to a industrial refrigerator. His mind was blown, lol
World of armor, Armorsmith (Ukrainian buhurt smith, weird name tho lol) has an interesting video on the topic, too. But it's pretty long so I'll just link the juiciest bit (turn on captions for translation): ruclips.net/video/poV9-h7ffuE/видео.htmlsi=pdKuku1ZWQ6YoB7s&t=723
This was great, amazing who difficult it is to defeat armour,add the confusion of battle(imprecise blows,being jostled, slipping)and even light armour increases the chance of survival enourmlesly 😊
You don’t have to kill them to be usefull. If the guy gets so jarred than he kneels over then js makes halfswording a gap or daggering a gap easier. If he drops his weapon , the fight gets a lot easier
Yeah, I think it's similar to medieval tournament fighting where you are making a spectacle of prowess, but trying not to kill people ( but sometimes they died).
also, an knight is surrounded by his footmen(houseguards), so if an knight is too badly injured, his entourage would drag him to safety, so disabling him or using him as hostage is preferable to get more men out of the battle
Do you do full contact sparring in armor ? Something I find compelling about hema fight breakdowns is he puts up footage of hims and other practicing techniques
@@armsarmorinc.4153 I meant do you practice things like throws and takedowns with full resistance? I come from a grappling background . But i rarely see any throws in Bohurt or hema videos despite them being shown in historical manuscripts
@@TheVanguardFighter They are often unsafe for a sport context. Floors and perimeters have to be _very_ carefully constructed and selected for throws to not present a risk of serious injury if throws and grapples are involved, and the dangers of falling on the weapons themselves are unavoidable. A much wider range of venues are viable if grappling is disallowed. While other factors are involved (the general athleticism and martial training outside of the individual weapon tends to be relatively low in the majority of HEMA practitioners), it is fundamentally difficult to make it safe in full-contact sparring.
@@TheVanguardFighter They absolutely are youth sports. They are bigger sports than HEMA, though, and with relatively uniform equipment and safety concerns whereas HEMA varies wildly from one group to the next, nor risk falling on a quillion, side-ring, nagel, etc.
Nice! Now go find the Oakeshott fellow that is late with publications, or the apprentice that was late from the coffee break, and put them in the armour. That's allowed, right? 😇Sorry for the people that are waiting for their orders, productions will de delayed a bit, for science!😅 But seriously, I am so amazed to see the quillons taking the punishment. I know they are supposed to. But knowing something and seeing something is different. And since I can't repair them myself, I am not going to that with my own swords. Man, I wish I would be able to build my own swords! 😑
No,your thinking of pinpoint force(direct violence)as opposed to blunt force(indirect violence)with equal force both will cause damage,simple physics sir😊
I kept expecting Matt Easton to jump out every time you said "context".
He sneezed each time it was said...
This is why Fiore wants you to have a pointed cross guard. It just adds that little bit extra.
I used to work demolition. Sheets of steel are pretty hard (impossible really) to break if you just hit them in them really hard. But if you pry them apart at the weak points that makes it much easier to shear them open. Haha my boss kept getting mad at me when I first started working there, he would tell me to "start" breaking something and come find him.
I took "to long." Eventually he told me he was sorry for saying that because I did everything so cleanly and surgically. After a few jobs I got better at spotting weak points in things. I remember one job was an office building, the other guys were smashing up the walls with sledgehammers. I took down all the walls on a whole floor in a couple hours by pushing the walls from behind and popping out the screws. And instead of shoveling up rubble for hours, we just broke down the sheets of drywall with some box cutters, and in the garbage cart, they went. I did something similar to a industrial refrigerator.
His mind was blown, lol
Work smarter not harder.
As I am the one who posted the original video onto the group, Thank you for taking the time to produce this response.
Our pleasure!
HEY
Regarding gauntlets: at a BOTN a fellas finger tip got cut off when one of the his finger scales got driven down and severed things at the joint.
Gross and interesting! The best combo 😊
@@armsarmorinc.4153 have you read The Medical Realities Of Historic Wounds as in Spada 2?
World of armor, Armorsmith (Ukrainian buhurt smith, weird name tho lol) has an interesting video on the topic, too. But it's pretty long so I'll just link the juiciest bit (turn on captions for translation):
ruclips.net/video/poV9-h7ffuE/видео.htmlsi=pdKuku1ZWQ6YoB7s&t=723
That was interesting, thanks for sharing!
This was great, amazing who difficult it is to defeat armour,add the confusion of battle(imprecise blows,being jostled, slipping)and even light armour increases the chance of survival enourmlesly 😊
Thanks! Armor def helps you not die
@@armsarmorinc.4153 Not dying is usually good.
Broken connections, interesting... I tended to overlook them in my thinking.
Totally, it was one of the things we learned from breaking nice armor with accurate weapons!
Well said! A really good analysis. I bet you were really fun to have as a teacher/professor ( sorry, not sure ) !
Thank you 😊
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing your time and knowledge.
Glad you enjoyed it!
You don’t have to kill them to be usefull. If the guy gets so jarred than he kneels over then js makes halfswording a gap or daggering a gap easier. If he drops his weapon , the fight gets a lot easier
For sure
Though modern buhurt mentality isn’t useless it doesn't seem to reflect medieval risk assessment at all.
Yeah, I think it's similar to medieval tournament fighting where you are making a spectacle of prowess, but trying not to kill people ( but sometimes they died).
nice sword and interesting video. thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
also, an knight is surrounded by his footmen(houseguards), so if an knight is too badly injured, his entourage would drag him to safety, so disabling him or using him as hostage is preferable to get more men out of the battle
btw, i'm BSing
Yay.
You mean I didn't have to get hit in the head?!
All in the service of science 😊
Do you do full contact sparring in armor ? Something I find compelling about hema fight breakdowns is he puts up footage of hims and other practicing techniques
Not full contact bohurt style, we try to apply the historical techniques for killing people in armor carefully so we don't run out of friends 😊
@@armsarmorinc.4153 I meant do you practice things like throws and takedowns with full resistance? I come from a grappling background . But i rarely see any throws in Bohurt or hema videos despite them being shown in historical manuscripts
@@TheVanguardFighter They are often unsafe for a sport context. Floors and perimeters have to be _very_ carefully constructed and selected for throws to not present a risk of serious injury if throws and grapples are involved, and the dangers of falling on the weapons themselves are unavoidable. A much wider range of venues are viable if grappling is disallowed. While other factors are involved (the general athleticism and martial training outside of the individual weapon tends to be relatively low in the majority of HEMA practitioners), it is fundamentally difficult to make it safe in full-contact sparring.
@@nevisysbryd7450 i find that very ironic given wrestling and other grappling styles is a a youth sport in my area
@@TheVanguardFighter They absolutely are youth sports. They are bigger sports than HEMA, though, and with relatively uniform equipment and safety concerns whereas HEMA varies wildly from one group to the next, nor risk falling on a quillion, side-ring, nagel, etc.
Nice! Now go find the Oakeshott fellow that is late with publications, or the apprentice that was late from the coffee break, and put them in the armour. That's allowed, right? 😇Sorry for the people that are waiting for their orders, productions will de delayed a bit, for science!😅
But seriously, I am so amazed to see the quillons taking the punishment. I know they are supposed to. But knowing something and seeing something is different. And since I can't repair them myself, I am not going to that with my own swords. Man, I wish I would be able to build my own swords! 😑
😊
Could you Mordhau with a Claymore Sword?
Sure!
Obligatory out of context ahistorical comment.
Bump
Uses a sword with the worst guard possible for mordhau strikes: a curved guard....
No,your thinking of pinpoint force(direct violence)as opposed to blunt force(indirect violence)with equal force both will cause damage,simple physics sir😊
@@gorbalsboy a curved guard will direct the force away from the impact.