Très bonne vidéo très bien expliqué c’est rare ça m’a donné envie d’en acheter une je suis Suisse et je l’ai payé 450 Francs mais j’ai pas regretté elle est très bien ❤
Pappenheim is / was a german knightly family. In Thirty Years War one member of this familly was a wellknown cavallry officer. He is still known by older german speaking people, for an unusual reason. German poet and writer Friedrich Schiller wrote two theater/ stage pieces Wallenstein and Wallensteins Lager ( in this case Lager means camp, not the beer we call Pils). In this theater pieces also the noted officer Pappenheim appears and says proudly: Ja, ich kenne meine Pappenheimer- yes , i know ( the bravery of) my soldiers. But in current german this sentence/ phrase is used, when something happened and the boss/ leader/ officer correcty assumes, which of his men/ employees has done it.
Beautiful sword-I owned a cold steel in the past but I didn’t love the nut pommel, as it kept coming loose. I wonder if this one would hold up to extensive use.
@ excellent! I’m currently deciding on treating myself to something after a long year/couple of years! Come and take one of our HEMA classes next time you’re in Worcestershireshuhshoeshine.
Nice Video guys. Seems a nice Rapier. Maybe put your practice material on hanging strings or foam tubing stands? You seem hesitant in your strikes as you are understandably careful not to strike wooden blocks or metal stands. I think it's make a better test and video if you could be more confident. I am far from an expert though so just regard this as 'musings of an amateur'
"the clamshell should be angled more" Not really. I would call this an English style rapier (but the Dutch used this style as well). The shells should be as is, but farther from the crossguard rings by an extra 1cm or so (say half an inch). And the shell should be connected to the crossguard rings at the end (where you see a decoration on the rings) to reinforce the structure. At least that's what I saw on antiques, but there are plenty of variations. Mind you, doing what I saw on antiques would fix the critique about the space for the finger. But there's a caveat. If you want to use this more in a transitional rapier style, you would pinch the quillon block without fingering the crossguard (which is more for Italian or Spanish rapier styles). But this is too heavy in my book for a transitional rapier, and the quillons style doesn't support this either, so I think we're talking more about a design failure that could be fixed easily.
Scabbard & sheath men the same thing but are of different linguistic origins. If the core actually mattered if a sheath had no rigid core we wouldn't say "sheath your sword".
5.4cm thick is not bad for a 36" blade. But I get why you are a skeptic. If you track my blog from my profile (I do for fun; I'm not promoting here), you'll see my thoughts on the Windlass Christus Imperat Rapier, which only has a 4.7cm thick stock. Now that has a flex less than 7kg. So use a bathroom scale and press the blade on it to get a measurement of the flex (the saturation value; larger value, less flex). My side-sword trainers (3 different good makers) have 9-10kg flex and a feder has 13-14kg. This Windlass, a sharp wannabe rapier, has more flex than trainers designed to be safe in the thrust. When I try to lounge at a target, the blade bends in a most disappointing way. Any weight on the tip and the blade deflects tremendously. I stuck the tip in the ground, and it couldn't support its own weight (the blade bent until the hilt touched the ground). But look in the video, when they hit the stand, or when they have the large chunks of gourds in the tip. The blade looks stiff. I was looking for that since I also wondered if a 5mm stock was enough. In the end, it looks enough (or at least compared to the Christus Imperat Rapier). Distal profile and cross-section effect? I don't know, but it looks stiff in use. The problem is that it has only a 36" long blade. That's side-sword territory, or English rapiers that had their blades cut to meet local laws. So it could be stiff just because it's too short. And the guys did mention that it feels like a rapier and not like a sidesword, so that's something. In the end, regardless of what I said above, I am sure you'll feel disappointed by this piece. This is not a good reproduction, and it's kinda annoying that we can't find a good piece at this price. This one is almost there, but not quite.
Thickness isn't the only factor one should consider as blade cross section & heat treatment can effect stiffness of a blade significantly. Think about how thin a small sword blade can be yet because of their tri-edged shape they are very rigid.
I need this
Yes you do!
Très bonne vidéo très bien expliqué c’est rare ça m’a donné envie d’en acheter une je suis Suisse et je l’ai payé 450 Francs mais j’ai pas regretté elle est très bien ❤
Pappenheimer hilts are like tiny umbrellas with holes.
@@polymathart don’t use them to stay dry 😉
Pappenheim is / was a german knightly family. In Thirty Years War one member of this familly was a wellknown cavallry officer. He is still known by older german speaking people, for an unusual reason. German poet and writer Friedrich Schiller wrote two theater/ stage pieces Wallenstein and Wallensteins Lager ( in this case Lager means camp, not the beer we call Pils). In this theater pieces also the noted officer Pappenheim appears and says proudly: Ja, ich kenne meine Pappenheimer- yes , i know ( the bravery of) my soldiers. But in current german this sentence/ phrase is used, when something happened and the boss/ leader/ officer correcty assumes, which of his men/ employees has done it.
Very nice review! I had always wanted to see a review of this sword. I have a Cold Steel English Backsword, have you reviewed that blade?
@@mmgross144 no im afraid i haven’t had the pleasure yet
Beautiful sword-I owned a cold steel in the past but I didn’t love the nut pommel, as it kept coming loose. I wonder if this one would hold up to extensive use.
@@FoardenotFord so far everything is still nice and snug but time will tell
Blue loctite is your friend.
@@AleasCrawanGP ill have to get me some then. Thanks!
Nice video guys! Does it feel “well made/put together”?
@@TheEnglishCountryHouse thank you 🙏🏻. Yeah i was very pleased with the construction. After the testing everything still felt solid and tight.
@ excellent! I’m currently deciding on treating myself to something after a long year/couple of years! Come and take one of our HEMA classes next time you’re in Worcestershireshuhshoeshine.
@ id love to!
I have this. It is bad ass.
Nice video! Now get an Arms and Armour rapier and do the same. :)
@@FiliiMartis oof that would be nice indeed
@@KeomegaManAtArms They are only $150. Future you needs to worry about paying for the rest.😄
@@FiliiMartis oh wow that’s cheap
Its 150 for a deposit, thats not the end price.
@@michaelcrawford703 That's the joke behind "future you needs to worry about paying for the rest." 😅
Nice Video guys. Seems a nice Rapier. Maybe put your practice material on hanging strings or foam tubing stands? You seem hesitant in your strikes as you are understandably careful not to strike wooden blocks or metal stands. I think it's make a better test and video if you could be more confident. I am far from an expert though so just regard this as 'musings of an amateur'
@@MrRespectable-gw2xd some suspended targets would work nicely indeed 👍🏻
Looks great except where the clam shell meets the blade should be farther from the hand, in other words, the clamshell should be angled more.
"the clamshell should be angled more"
Not really. I would call this an English style rapier (but the Dutch used this style as well). The shells should be as is, but farther from the crossguard rings by an extra 1cm or so (say half an inch). And the shell should be connected to the crossguard rings at the end (where you see a decoration on the rings) to reinforce the structure. At least that's what I saw on antiques, but there are plenty of variations.
Mind you, doing what I saw on antiques would fix the critique about the space for the finger. But there's a caveat. If you want to use this more in a transitional rapier style, you would pinch the quillon block without fingering the crossguard (which is more for Italian or Spanish rapier styles). But this is too heavy in my book for a transitional rapier, and the quillons style doesn't support this either, so I think we're talking more about a design failure that could be fixed easily.
@@freestylebagua some more space underneath the shell would be nice for sure. But what do you mean by angled more?
Scabbard & sheath men the same thing but are of different linguistic origins. If the core actually mattered if a sheath had no rigid core we wouldn't say "sheath your sword".
German word for sheath of blades is Scheide. A female bodypart has same name ....
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Ha, a rapier with a 36" blade only 5mm thick? Is that a joke?
@@ScottWoodruff-wh3ft do you think it should be thicker?
5.4cm thick is not bad for a 36" blade. But I get why you are a skeptic. If you track my blog from my profile (I do for fun; I'm not promoting here), you'll see my thoughts on the Windlass Christus Imperat Rapier, which only has a 4.7cm thick stock. Now that has a flex less than 7kg. So use a bathroom scale and press the blade on it to get a measurement of the flex (the saturation value; larger value, less flex). My side-sword trainers (3 different good makers) have 9-10kg flex and a feder has 13-14kg. This Windlass, a sharp wannabe rapier, has more flex than trainers designed to be safe in the thrust. When I try to lounge at a target, the blade bends in a most disappointing way. Any weight on the tip and the blade deflects tremendously. I stuck the tip in the ground, and it couldn't support its own weight (the blade bent until the hilt touched the ground).
But look in the video, when they hit the stand, or when they have the large chunks of gourds in the tip. The blade looks stiff. I was looking for that since I also wondered if a 5mm stock was enough. In the end, it looks enough (or at least compared to the Christus Imperat Rapier). Distal profile and cross-section effect? I don't know, but it looks stiff in use.
The problem is that it has only a 36" long blade. That's side-sword territory, or English rapiers that had their blades cut to meet local laws. So it could be stiff just because it's too short. And the guys did mention that it feels like a rapier and not like a sidesword, so that's something.
In the end, regardless of what I said above, I am sure you'll feel disappointed by this piece. This is not a good reproduction, and it's kinda annoying that we can't find a good piece at this price. This one is almost there, but not quite.
Thickness isn't the only factor one should consider as blade cross section & heat treatment can effect stiffness of a blade significantly.
Think about how thin a small sword blade can be yet because of their tri-edged shape they are very rigid.
So does the Cavalier squash the competition, or is squash the only competition? 🥸
@@johnstuartkeller5244 i haven’t tried it out on other opponents yet lol