For me, the biggest issue with video game adaptations is that a majority of them are movies and not television series. People play video games for hours upon hours connecting with characters. Attempting to truncate that experience into a 90-120 minute film is a losing battle. Just like the game, you need the audience to live with the characters for a long journey. The Last of Us would have failed miserably as a movie. Uncharted would've succeeded as a series(with different casting of course).
Similar to how Walking Dead was better then Dawn of the Dead (or even Romero's works) because they had far far more time for character development. You care when those characters died where as the people you literally learned about 30 mins ago don't have nearly the same weight.
It can work for shorter games or ones where the story isn't the the important part (like Mario and Sonic). For narrative-focused games though, yeah, a movie is just not long enough to make you care about any of it.
Agreed. You miss all those beautiful moments in the Jeeps and walking around ruins with Sully, Elena, Nate and even Sam with the littlest of dialogue that exposes who they are as characters rushing through a dog shit adaptation that seems to not care about the original game AT ALL.
Also the direction behind the Last of Us show is just masterful. They were able to make both subtle and major changes but still make the story feel complete and properly adapted. Like, the whole Bill episode could've literally been a standalone movie about 2 guys trying to find trust and love in a post apocalyptic world and it would've worked.
That episode blew my mind. I knew the writers could go the route of having Frank kill Bill the moment Bill let his guard down, but I was hoping they'd take a less cynical route and I was not disappointed.
Actually my favourite episode. Since it was standalone and very lengthy, it felt like a film and the pacing was just right. The whole of the season though, not so much. Was quite good at the start, and the individual episodes work quite well, but the pacing throughout felt kinda off. The ending also didn't do it for me. A bit anticlimactic.
I think the hallmark of good writing is the fact that every character feels like they could have their own films, or could at least carry an episode. Yknow? If you write every character well enough you must be doing SOMETHING right
It's also worth mentioning Amy Hennig left Naughty Dog during the development of of the 4th game. She was very influential in the direction the story and the writing went. People like to erase her influence like she didn't matter but she absolutely did. And the movie definitely suffered as a result of this too
@@theleftybros4716 Straley helped co-write the story and made some major changes to things that Neil originally wrote. And for me personally, it definitely showed in TLOU2 that Bruce wasn't involved in the slightest with how terrible it is lmao
It was depressing how uncinematic the film was compared to the games. My favourite parts of the series are when you enter a new area and have these overwhelming landscape vistas revealed. There were no moments in the movie that inspired awe, mostly due to the fact that they only go to two different locations and there’s barely any ancient ruins (except for a small room hidden under a bar and a cave with two massive pirate ships). Also insane that there’s maybe two whole action sequences in the entire 2-hour run time!
I was an extra in the last of us, and you could tell that everyone had a love for the production and the game. Even in watching set dec, they paid attention to every tiny little detail. For example, my back was to the camera most of my scene and you can only see my arm and the back of my head, but the makeup people decided they’d give me a sunburn because there wouldn’t have been sunscreen. Cool eh? Thought I’d share how dedicated everyone was for TLOU
That is such an amazing detail, I love when people creating things care so much that they cover details that very few people ever even would have noticed or thought about, thank you for sharing!
The thing that gets me is Uncharted CAN be adapted! The fan film starring Nathan Fillion is AMAZING. And its because you can tell that everyone involved loves the games and wants to bring them to life. It references things like the transition from cutscene to gameplay in its framing. Nathan Fillion acts like Nate. He LOOKS like Nate, if maybe a bit old for the part. But no one really got paid for that project. They made it because they wanted to. The Uncharted movie was made for money, not love or art.
That fan film captured Nathan Drake as a character, but I think the Uncharted movie captured the silly, B-movie, early 2000s action adventure dumb fun (with it's own set of problems to match). Yeah it was made for money no doubt, that many change in hands between rando hollywood white doods tells us that much, but that doesn't mean the result is inherently purely shit. My point really is both were adapted, none were entirely shot for shot and they just had different goals that they achieved to varying levels. I think TLoU show was done really well and still *incredibly* and dangerously flawed, but I think a lot of the comparisons going on here are not really comparing the same things very fairly.
@@zumabbarHe was just terribly miscast. I think he could work so well in adventure movie if he played a character like Milo Thatch from Atlantis: The Lost Empire.
Dude that moment where you guys talk about fools gold and how u both associate it with the same memory is such a good sibling feeling and im glad u included that
On the topic of the Percy Jackson movies, the author tried and tried to get the studio to stop messing with the film. He sent multiple emails and they just straight up didn’t listen. So he tried but ultimately the studio just didn’t care
I met Mr Riordan once and we spoke about the movie. He said the most frustrating thing was that he wrote the book to be as easy to translate to film as possible hoping it would be adapted one day... And look what he got 😢😂
@@andrewking9454 I really hope this new series will bring back the glory of the Percy Jackson series and do it justice. Pretty sure he’s much more hands on with the Tv series
@@therestingmitchface6241 It already earns points in my book by having the main characters be the same age as the characters in the book. No weird sexual tension between percy and annabeth to get in the way of them interacting like kids, hopefully.
Is there more to say than a huge THANK YOU for the amazing actor playing eddys brother? Like damn he REALLY got into the zone as a close blood relative. Truly incredible impersonation with an original twist.
Mark Wahlberg being cast as Sully was one of the most baffling casting choices I’ve ever borne witness to and I’m so glad there are other people as angry and confused about it as I am
@@blueflare3848 it’s hilarious cuz he fits REALLY well for a younger Nathan or like a teenage Nate, for the sections of Uncharted 3 and 4 when we saw him that way. Other than those few sections, I completely agree. He’s got a babyface compared to older Nate from the games.
Uncharted felt like a Sparknotes recap from someone who played each game once many years ago. Last of Us felt like an extremely close adaptation that actually followed it very closely.
Y’all are so funny but also like- your passion is infectious. I never played the uncharted games and now I’m so upset with how dirty our story was done
You forgot to mention how the adaptation of The Last of Us also went through development hell. They announced they were working on a movie not too long after the first game came out and, at one point, the project even had Sam Raimi attached to it.
That's not really a fair comparison at all. The Last of Us movie and the TV show are completely separate projects. Just because they were both planned adaptations of the same source material doesn't mean it went through development hell to get released. They scrapped the movie a long time ago and then Craig decided he wanted to make the show with Neil. The released product of the TV show didn't go through any development issues.
Eddie looks like the dad that's desperately trying to bond with his son but Tony looks like the cool stepdad who the son admires and bonds with instantly
9:55 I'm SO glad you guys brought this up! That scene with Elena is one of the most memorable scenes from the entire franchise, and as you guys have said, she IS Uncharted, together with Nate and Sully. I can't believe they cut her from the film.
The entire time I first watched the film, I kept expecting her to pop up somehow because it just felt so hollow without her (among other reasons, they really butchered the characterization of pretty much everyone)
I think it's a blessing in disguise that they cut her from the movie. With how badly they butchered pretty much every character, I shudder to think how Elena would've turned out.
@@the_julia_fairno I mostly do agree with what you're saying however I honestly thought that Tom Holland was a convincing version of Nathan Drake. For me he actually really worked, and I did not expect that at all. When I heard he was going to be playing the character I had zero faith in that but it turned out that he was pretty damn good. The real problem was that everybody else in the movie was not a good adaptation of the character they portray. And also Elena wasn't there, like she is number one girl in the entire franchise. They can't do an uncharted movie without her and expect people to appreciate it.
Fun fact, the voice actors in The Last of Us (game) had secondary roles in the TV show, including Troy Baker (Joel/James) Ashley Johnson (Ellie/Anna) Jeffry Pierce (Tommy/Perry) Merle Dandridge (Marlene/Marlene).
I think any adaptation of a game or a book or whatever HAS to be a tv show. Because they're almost always longer than what you can fit in a movie, so it will always lost most of what makes the game/book so great if you try to fit the story into 2 hours. But with a tv show, especially if the studio is able to give you so many resources like HBO with the last of us, then they can make the story exactly as it is.
I think it depends on the type of game. If it’s a heavy narrative game, then I think a tv show works best. If they are adapting the game that’s not so narrative heavy, a movie can work just fine. It’s basically the difference between the Last of Us and Mario/Sonic the Hedgehog
I agree with you somewhat, you CAN make a good movie adaption, but the problem lies in WHAT about it is getting adapted. Like, how to train your dragon is a book adaption, but it looks almost NOTHING like the book; but it WORKS because they kept the core theme of the book of the unconventional hero. The harry potter movies work really well because they're so loyal to the source material when it came to how the sets and characters looked. There ARE decent movie adaptions...it just feels like too many adaptions try to combine the first few books/episodes/games into one story and it all falls apart bc that's too much.
not necessarily but a tv show does afford some advantages. you can tell a very good story in little over 2 hrs, best case i can provide of the top of my head would be Shawshank redemption, 2hr 22 minutes, great story told well and it was based on a book.
I don't think it has anything to do with being a movie or TV show. Just look at The Witcher disaster. You just need writers that won't change things out of ego, the changes must be for the betterment of the pace, structure, or characters.
It really feels like they just casted Mark Walburg and Tom Holland so they could have two big names on the screen. When I watched it I hadn’t played the games but even I knew that there’s no way the games could actually be like this.
obsessed with this video for a million reasons but mostly because I remember watching all the updates about the development of the uncharted movie over the years and impatiently waiting and it’s very satisfying to see it all laid out as the pure disaster that it was. but also honestly y’all hit the nail on the head with why these two adaptations worked out so differently
this format remains absolutely fantastic, your banter is great and your research and passion is very clear, and i think the face cams add so much to the humor and keeping it visually interesting. i think this was a really excellent direction for the channel!
Another bop of a video, but I was absolutely pulling my hair out when you guys didnt bring up the Fan Made film starring Nathan Fillian as Nathan Drake, which was a 10ish minute short film that was genuinely better than the whole official movie, the casting was genuinely S tier
Whoever scored the uncharted games will forever be remembered. Just Eddy playing the music for drakes fortune gave me goosebumps. Ironically, the complete opposite effect the movie had on me in theaters.
With a different cast and a character driven script where the plot was secondary to the motivations of the characters, who knows, it could’ve been super fun. Great video!
So cool to see that you guys decided to adapt those inanimate voices into real people! Have to say though that this casting is a little offbeat, but it's nice to see you guys giving these two fresh actors a gig!
I wrote an essay on this topic for college and the general idea for game adaptions is just to make sure you stick to the games premise and don't make an entirely new unseen story
I think the overall biggest issue is that writers are trying to sum up entire series in a 2 hour hodgepodge story. Filling in lots of visual highlights of the series at the cost of any meaning. The greatest video game adaptations have either been taking much smaller samples of the source material and writing around that (like Last of Us) or creating their own story that captures the essence of the game (like Cyberpunk Edgerunners and the Mario movie). Hollywood has seemed to think that people who love the games just want to see their favorite scenes in live action, but they’re finally starting to learn that characters are the most important thing to get right.
Yeah exactly episode 3 is the biggest deviation from the game and it’s still my favorite episode. I love how it tv can expand the world and still give he same result
I loved the games and have been playing the first game regularly for the past ten years, and I love every episode of the show. The show is great because of the appreciation it has for the games and because of the little changes that add to the story better than the game did. Episode three is phenomenal, they took my favorite part of the game and changed it from teaching Joel how to use a shotgun to being able to play a significant part in the story by showing the audience that in this violent world, the only thing that matters most anymore is the loving relationships we have.
@@cdw2468 yes, that was the Offerman episode. Their story was changed to be "the happiest ending in the world of Last of Us", and it still had me bawling on the couch.
As a gay transgender man, having a non-stereotypical gay couple have a story that is still tragic, because the setting is tragic, but the tragedy isn't the focus, two people meeting and falling in love and making the best out of their tragic setting that ends with them choosing how their story ends was just so absolutely fantastic. Also, the fact that we never see their bodies, and their friends respect the note (literally burying the "bury your gays" trope by NOT BURYING THEM) and then finishing on that window shot that is reminiscent of the menu screen from the first game, the absolute perfect casting of both characters... it all comes together to make one of the greatest episodes of television ever made. The little giggle Nick Offerman does when he eats the strawberry is also one of the most adorable things I've ever seen in my entire life.
It's acutally kinda sad seeing how they butched it that hard, I'd still love to see a mini series or something like that, just another try to do it right this time with a cast of characters that fit
great video as always! in my opinion, adapting these sorts of linear narrative video games into movies is generally a bad idea because you'll be squeezing dozens of hours of content into one movie. it makes much more sense to adapt them for tv.
Dude they finally acquired an extra vessel for Tony's ethereal consciousness. The kind of things you can do when the subs start picking up, it is crazy.
The best part of the Uncharted movie was the Nolan North cameo. Not only does it pay respect to the original actor, it also suggests that somehow the Nathan Drake from the games actually exists in this universe and Tom Holland is just some other guy who happens to have the same name and a similar life.
As much as I like Tom Holland in the Spider-Man movies, he's kinda trapped with his baby face - It's not only going to be hard to see him as anyone other then Spider-Man, but also as someone older then 20. Mark Wahlberg simply isn't a good choice for movies outside of his normal wheelhouse, let alone in a role that requires gravitas.
I think the biggest reason is that TLOU has a laser focus on what story it want's to tell, the story, tone and characters are all in synch which make sit easy to adapt. uncharted is a big mix, there are serious interpersonal problems in 4 and serious discussion about identity on 3 but also the violence wildly goes from campy and whimsical to being shot in the gut and fending off a kill squad in a very tense scene; add Nate doing hand puppets on a Moroccan prison and you have a blend that is very difficult to translate. Not impossible because we have the OG Indy movies but that is even worse because the inevitable comparison is there...... all that said, yes the biggest screw up is not getting Bruce Campbell to do Sully.
this video also perfectly encapsulates the issues i had with the witcher adaptation. passion is such an important aspect of any project but especially one that has a beloved source material like a book or game
There was an Uncharted fan film with Nathan Fillion (of Firefly fame and Nathan Drake's primary inspiration) and besides more faithfully adapting Uncharted's cast, it also faithfully captured the energy of the games' blockbuster action sequences and shootouts with a low budget. One of the reasons for the fan film's success, in my opinion, is its cinematography--the camera tracks Nate in a single shot during an extended action sequence to make the viewer feel like they're *with* Nate, like a player viewing Nate in the game. The Tom Holland film rarely, if ever, does this, instead doing very bog-standard action shots you'd see in any blockbuster with hard cuts and shaky cam. While filming sequences in one shot is logistically very difficult, doing so would have gone above and beyond to making the Hollywood adaptation of Uncharted a far more enjoyable film (alongside recasting Nate and Sully).
I'm SO glad you commented this! I had no idea about the fan film. I just watched it and you are so right! It's everything a filmed adaptation of Uncharted should be. Just had to come back and thank you for bringing it up
Really enjoying seeing both of the burback boys on screen. Also loving the interesting content you're uploading on this channel. Keep up the great work boys! Edit: the henchman death was fantastic.
I always thought someone should compare and contrast the Uncharted movie and The Last of Us TV show. Really cool to see Eddy Burback (and his clone?) do such a thorough analysis of the two.
Love the new development to the stye! I love how the Burback vids feel like a combination between a classic video essay and a podcast, and addition of seeing you guys really adds to that! Keep up the good work!
although i’ve only watched a let’s play for uncharted 4 (and immediately fell in love with it), i was so excited for the movie, and then early on in the production, i find out one of my most favorite actors is playing a young nathan drake. i swear it was a perfect match. here i was thinking that maybe a quarter of the film was going to be nathan’s past meaning the adult nathan drake is still to be casted… and then years went by… and then that photo of tom clearly dressed as adult nathan drake came out. i’ll admit, i thought it was pretty sick, but i was also worried… and then the movie came out.. although i still had fun watching it, it wasn’t the adaptation i was looking for of the game i fell in love with a few years back. but honestly, i feel like tom holland could’ve pulled off nathan if they actually put love and care into the movie. it’s not even an adaptation at this point, it’s just a completely different movie that so happens to have the same name as a game.
I absolutely loved watching you guys play through KH2. I rewatched the VODS everyday until twitch deleted them. Those VODS got me through one of the darkest times in my life and I really miss watching them. I’d pay to see them again.
Not related to this video, but.. Yesterday, I was watching an old Eddie video (The Dare one) while playing Breath of the Wild. I caught my first horse for the playthrough while watching the video, so I named him Eddie. Eddie died 5 minutes later to a Guardian. Sorry, Eddie. ❤
i watched te uncharted movie w my mom and sister (none of us have every touched an uncharted game) and we were all incredibly bored until the ship chase which was the most anxiety inducing thing ive ever seen. like my sister actually yelled out loud when the shit crashed into the rocks THEY WERE PERFECTLY PRESERVED FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS same with the salt urns it actually made us upset when they broke
I care soooo incredibly much about TLOU. Obviously the show did some things different, but I loved it. nothing will ever compare to the game ofc but as far as video game media goes, TLOU was for sure top tier.
Hey boys! This video feels like what I’ve been waiting for from Burback!!! I’ve LOVED every other video but this feels like y’all have hit your stride! Hilarious and accurate! Love y’all!
That one short fan film with Nathan Fillion was so much better than the entire uncharted movie. When I was younger, I thought Nathan Fillion was Nathan Drake lol. I wish he was in the one new rather than Tom
The marketing of the Uncharted movie was incredibly confusing. Especially the claim the movie was going to be “a prequel.” A prequel to what? They didn’t do a young Drake story. They created a disjointed amalgamation of the games.
The fact that they didn't cast Nolan North as Sully makes me so livid. It would have both been a great nod to his tenure as Nathan but he would have played Sully as the lovable yet tough character Sully is in the games.
I remember a story I read somewher about the last years of LucasArts gaming division, and how they'd spent years prototyping the newest Indiana Jones game in a WHILE, and thought they had something really good, and were really excited to finish and put into people's hands. Then Uncharted burst onto the scene, and they were all just "Oh. Oh, that's so GOOD. Augh, god damn it, that's better than OURS! FUCK! THEY BEAT US! AT OUR OWN GAME!" And so that Indy project never saw the light of day, cause a totally different studio came along and filled the void left by years of no Tomb Raider and no Indy better than either series had before. Or at least more successfully. And GOD. DAMN. I had forgotten how utterly FUCKED the Percy Jackson movies were. I recall reading shortly after they announced the Disney series, that the crew behind the movies sent Riordan the scripts, and he wrote back BEGGING to help punch them up, fix the OBVIOUS problems, they wouldn't even have to PAY HIM. Just don't put HIS material out there IN THIS STATE. And they said no. I went, an eager nostalgic high schooler who read all the books over the course of middle school, to see the Lightning Thief in theaters. I left so disappointed that I didn't even bother watching the trailer for Sea of Monsters.
as someone who barely saw any of the marketing for this movie and have never played any of the uncharted games, i thought mark was gonna be nathan drake and they were gonna have flashbacks where tom was young nathan drake
As someone whose never played uncharted I watched this movie and it became my hyper fixation for a year. Do you know how embarrassing it is to say your favorite movie has mark wahlberg in it? I’m so brave for that.
It's like you guys reached into my head and extracted a script for a video essay from a rant that no one in my life will let me dump on them. Sending you guys so much love for actually delving deeper into the Uncharted lore. Nate and Sully's relationship is just as deep as Joel and Ellie's, thanks for shining a light on them. Love you guys, keep up the great work, y'all are amazing!
Jesus there’s two of them
Really?
they’re undergoing mitosis
@@Kirbo24 It needs to stop before getting out of hand.
@@HakuYuki001 its already too late
Crazy
holy shit tony is real
AI's getting waaay too realistic
I thought he was always just eddys inner demon
This feels like it should be read in a Brooklyn accent
psyop
I though you just put on a different voice! Crazy!
For me, the biggest issue with video game adaptations is that a majority of them are movies and not television series. People play video games for hours upon hours connecting with characters. Attempting to truncate that experience into a 90-120 minute film is a losing battle. Just like the game, you need the audience to live with the characters for a long journey. The Last of Us would have failed miserably as a movie. Uncharted would've succeeded as a series(with different casting of course).
Similar to how Walking Dead was better then Dawn of the Dead (or even Romero's works) because they had far far more time for character development. You care when those characters died where as the people you literally learned about 30 mins ago don't have nearly the same weight.
It can work for shorter games or ones where the story isn't the the important part (like Mario and Sonic). For narrative-focused games though, yeah, a movie is just not long enough to make you care about any of it.
The Last of Us as a movie is just Children of Men. And that movie is amazing
@@XxDeadpool99xXIt makes me wonder if the video game took inspiration from that movie. Their plots are very similar.
Agreed. You miss all those beautiful moments in the Jeeps and walking around ruins with Sully, Elena, Nate and even Sam with the littlest of dialogue that exposes who they are as characters rushing through a dog shit adaptation that seems to not care about the original game AT ALL.
Also the direction behind the Last of Us show is just masterful. They were able to make both subtle and major changes but still make the story feel complete and properly adapted. Like, the whole Bill episode could've literally been a standalone movie about 2 guys trying to find trust and love in a post apocalyptic world and it would've worked.
That episode blew my mind. I knew the writers could go the route of having Frank kill Bill the moment Bill let his guard down, but I was hoping they'd take a less cynical route and I was not disappointed.
The whole middle part of the episode could’ve been skipped and you wouldn’t miss a thing
Actually my favourite episode. Since it was standalone and very lengthy, it felt like a film and the pacing was just right.
The whole of the season though, not so much. Was quite good at the start, and the individual episodes work quite well, but the pacing throughout felt kinda off. The ending also didn't do it for me. A bit anticlimactic.
I think the hallmark of good writing is the fact that every character feels like they could have their own films, or could at least carry an episode. Yknow? If you write every character well enough you must be doing SOMETHING right
@@decayedtooth2564no
Dude they made Eddy and Tony into a real thing
A live-action adaptation done right
when are big corporations going to stop with the live action stuff, honestly this was a fluke and it’s probably never going to happen again
they don't look that good, they look fake tbh :/
Eddy was in it.
I say deep fake
It's also worth mentioning Amy Hennig left Naughty Dog during the development of of the 4th game. She was very influential in the direction the story and the writing went. People like to erase her influence like she didn't matter but she absolutely did. And the movie definitely suffered as a result of this too
And Bruce Staley. Druckmann co wrote the last of us
@@LTV746I thought Staley only handled the gameplay and Druckmann handled the story
@@theleftybros4716 Straley helped co-write the story and made some major changes to things that Neil originally wrote. And for me personally, it definitely showed in TLOU2 that Bruce wasn't involved in the slightest with how terrible it is lmao
@@tjhartstlou2 isnt bad. Its heavy, and it makes some wild choices, but hust because the story is tough, doesnt mean its bad
@@aussieseal9979good Game bad sequel
Tony I'm so glad you got your brother Eddy to appear on camera, it's been too long coming. Glad to see Eddy finally getting out of his shell
Peaches Peaches Peaches Peaches Peaches Peaches Peaches!!!
@@vlogily8043 I'm confused
@@tracewaldram Mario Movie reference I think
@@dubblebubbletoilandtrouble6646 well yes
@@tracewaldram I don't know why they commented it here exactly, if that's what you were asking lol
Sully not having his iconic polo shirt mustache combo is a sin
Eddy and Tony took me to chicago and made me lick the bean 😕
Balls reveal when?
I know that you misspelled Tony's name at first when you wrote this
But did it taste like beans
shit dude you got beaned
Jakey must be avenged
It was depressing how uncinematic the film was compared to the games. My favourite parts of the series are when you enter a new area and have these overwhelming landscape vistas revealed. There were no moments in the movie that inspired awe, mostly due to the fact that they only go to two different locations and there’s barely any ancient ruins (except for a small room hidden under a bar and a cave with two massive pirate ships). Also insane that there’s maybe two whole action sequences in the entire 2-hour run time!
I was an extra in the last of us, and you could tell that everyone had a love for the production and the game. Even in watching set dec, they paid attention to every tiny little detail. For example, my back was to the camera most of my scene and you can only see my arm and the back of my head, but the makeup people decided they’d give me a sunburn because there wouldn’t have been sunscreen. Cool eh? Thought I’d share how dedicated everyone was for TLOU
What episode were you in?
@@Shane_111 5! I’m high fiving the guys in the truck in the first scene towards the right of the screen
I love realistic details like that!
That is such an amazing detail, I love when people creating things care so much that they cover details that very few people ever even would have noticed or thought about, thank you for sharing!
They forgot Sarah was white
Pedro Pascal did such an incredible job - honestly, he shines in just about everything he's in, even something like WW84
The thing that gets me is Uncharted CAN be adapted! The fan film starring Nathan Fillion is AMAZING. And its because you can tell that everyone involved loves the games and wants to bring them to life. It references things like the transition from cutscene to gameplay in its framing. Nathan Fillion acts like Nate. He LOOKS like Nate, if maybe a bit old for the part. But no one really got paid for that project. They made it because they wanted to. The Uncharted movie was made for money, not love or art.
im so glad someone mentioned this!! his characterisation captured it very very well
That fan film is so well made that I will forever have a smidgen of hope we can get a legit uncharted film with a real passion stemming from the games
That fan film captured Nathan Drake as a character, but I think the Uncharted movie captured the silly, B-movie, early 2000s action adventure dumb fun (with it's own set of problems to match). Yeah it was made for money no doubt, that many change in hands between rando hollywood white doods tells us that much, but that doesn't mean the result is inherently purely shit.
My point really is both were adapted, none were entirely shot for shot and they just had different goals that they achieved to varying levels. I think TLoU show was done really well and still *incredibly* and dangerously flawed, but I think a lot of the comparisons going on here are not really comparing the same things very fairly.
@@jojbouk i think tom holland still had Nate's character good enough, he just lacked Nate's charming confidence, but the problem's lacking BY A LOT.
@@zumabbarHe was just terribly miscast. I think he could work so well in adventure movie if he played a character like Milo Thatch from Atlantis: The Lost Empire.
Dude that moment where you guys talk about fools gold and how u both associate it with the same memory is such a good sibling feeling and im glad u included that
On the topic of the Percy Jackson movies, the author tried and tried to get the studio to stop messing with the film. He sent multiple emails and they just straight up didn’t listen. So he tried but ultimately the studio just didn’t care
i know there’s a tv series being made where rick is directly involved
I met Mr Riordan once and we spoke about the movie. He said the most frustrating thing was that he wrote the book to be as easy to translate to film as possible hoping it would be adapted one day... And look what he got 😢😂
@@cdw2468 yeah I think it comes out next year
@@andrewking9454 I really hope this new series will bring back the glory of the Percy Jackson series and do it justice. Pretty sure he’s much more hands on with the Tv series
@@therestingmitchface6241 It already earns points in my book by having the main characters be the same age as the characters in the book. No weird sexual tension between percy and annabeth to get in the way of them interacting like kids, hopefully.
Is there more to say than a huge THANK YOU for the amazing actor playing eddys brother? Like damn he REALLY got into the zone as a close blood relative. Truly incredible impersonation with an original twist.
Really great editing to make Eddie look like 2 different people
But you can still clearly tell that it's the same person
Lmao
Almost a year later and it's still hilarious 😂
Mark Wahlberg being cast as Sully was one of the most baffling casting choices I’ve ever borne witness to and I’m so glad there are other people as angry and confused about it as I am
that's probably the easiest cast is the story of casting: Bruce Campbell.
It's the worst casting since Seth Rogen as The Green Hornet and Will Ferrell as Sherlock Holmes. Tom Holland was a mistake as well.
Can’t believe they did this to Uncharted man.
The casting for Nate was strange too. Tom Holland is a talented actor, but he doesn’t fit Nathan Drake at all.
@@blueflare3848 it’s hilarious cuz he fits REALLY well for a younger Nathan or like a teenage Nate, for the sections of Uncharted 3 and 4 when we saw him that way. Other than those few sections, I completely agree. He’s got a babyface compared to older Nate from the games.
Uncharted felt like a Sparknotes recap from someone who played each game once many years ago. Last of Us felt like an extremely close adaptation that actually followed it very closely.
I didn't even realize the uncharted movie was supposed to be an adaptation. It felt like it forgot characters were supposed to have motivations.
"Last of Us felt like an extremely close adaptation that actually followed it very closely." ....... because it is
@@zumabbar what a weird reply.
Actually it felt nothing like the game.
@@zumabbar yeah that’s the point of the comment
Y’all are so funny but also like- your passion is infectious. I never played the uncharted games and now I’m so upset with how dirty our story was done
Petition to adapt this channel into a video game
In a "Town With No Name'' game style. 😄
You would get sued by Nintendo. The protagonists would look too derivative of the Mario Brothers.
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Pedro Pascal can easily portrayed as Mario 😆
You forgot to mention how the adaptation of The Last of Us also went through development hell. They announced they were working on a movie not too long after the first game came out and, at one point, the project even had Sam Raimi attached to it.
That's not really a fair comparison at all. The Last of Us movie and the TV show are completely separate projects. Just because they were both planned adaptations of the same source material doesn't mean it went through development hell to get released. They scrapped the movie a long time ago and then Craig decided he wanted to make the show with Neil. The released product of the TV show didn't go through any development issues.
Eddie looks like the dad that's desperately trying to bond with his son but Tony looks like the cool stepdad who the son admires and bonds with instantly
That should be reverse since Tony looks stern and strict while Eddie looks chill and gives the kids candy when the mom is out getting her hair done
@@moxiemaxie3543or in Eddy's case, 12 identical beer-battered deep-fried cod sandwiches
It's crazy seeing clips of Uncharted 4 compared to the other games. It STILL looks freaking gorgeous
9:55 I'm SO glad you guys brought this up! That scene with Elena is one of the most memorable scenes from the entire franchise, and as you guys have said, she IS Uncharted, together with Nate and Sully. I can't believe they cut her from the film.
The entire time I first watched the film, I kept expecting her to pop up somehow because it just felt so hollow without her (among other reasons, they really butchered the characterization of pretty much everyone)
I think she was actually a small cameo at the beginning
I think it's a blessing in disguise that they cut her from the movie. With how badly they butchered pretty much every character, I shudder to think how Elena would've turned out.
@@nathanaldana6589 come on, they wouldn’t have a butcher every character I mean she’s a little cameo. It’s even worse if she’s not in the movie.
@@the_julia_fairno I mostly do agree with what you're saying however I honestly thought that Tom Holland was a convincing version of Nathan Drake. For me he actually really worked, and I did not expect that at all. When I heard he was going to be playing the character I had zero faith in that but it turned out that he was pretty damn good. The real problem was that everybody else in the movie was not a good adaptation of the character they portray. And also Elena wasn't there, like she is number one girl in the entire franchise. They can't do an uncharted movie without her and expect people to appreciate it.
Fun fact, the voice actors in The Last of Us (game) had secondary roles in the TV show, including
Troy Baker (Joel/James)
Ashley Johnson (Ellie/Anna)
Jeffry Pierce (Tommy/Perry)
Merle Dandridge (Marlene/Marlene).
Fun fact
the spanish voice actors from TLOU were rehired to do the spanish dub for the show
@@this_is_beanstalk That fact is indeed fun! Thanks!
I think any adaptation of a game or a book or whatever HAS to be a tv show. Because they're almost always longer than what you can fit in a movie, so it will always lost most of what makes the game/book so great if you try to fit the story into 2 hours. But with a tv show, especially if the studio is able to give you so many resources like HBO with the last of us, then they can make the story exactly as it is.
I think it depends on the type of game. If it’s a heavy narrative game, then I think a tv show works best. If they are adapting the game that’s not so narrative heavy, a movie can work just fine. It’s basically the difference between the Last of Us and Mario/Sonic the Hedgehog
I agree with you somewhat, you CAN make a good movie adaption, but the problem lies in WHAT about it is getting adapted. Like, how to train your dragon is a book adaption, but it looks almost NOTHING like the book; but it WORKS because they kept the core theme of the book of the unconventional hero. The harry potter movies work really well because they're so loyal to the source material when it came to how the sets and characters looked. There ARE decent movie adaptions...it just feels like too many adaptions try to combine the first few books/episodes/games into one story and it all falls apart bc that's too much.
not necessarily but a tv show does afford some advantages. you can tell a very good story in little over 2 hrs, best case i can provide of the top of my head would be Shawshank redemption, 2hr 22 minutes, great story told well and it was based on a book.
I don't think it has anything to do with being a movie or TV show. Just look at The Witcher disaster. You just need writers that won't change things out of ego, the changes must be for the betterment of the pace, structure, or characters.
Almost all the best movies are based off books. I don't think you have enough of an understanding of the mediums to be talking.
It really feels like they just casted Mark Walburg and Tom Holland so they could have two big names on the screen. When I watched it I hadn’t played the games but even I knew that there’s no way the games could actually be like this.
The only reason I watched the movie was because it had Tom Holland in it and he's my celebrity crush.
tony is such a good editor I could barely tell that he just used an ai to make a second eddy
obsessed with this video for a million reasons but mostly because I remember watching all the updates about the development of the uncharted movie over the years and impatiently waiting and it’s very satisfying to see it all laid out as the pure disaster that it was. but also honestly y’all hit the nail on the head with why these two adaptations worked out so differently
this format remains absolutely fantastic, your banter is great and your research and passion is very clear, and i think the face cams add so much to the humor and keeping it visually interesting. i think this was a really excellent direction for the channel!
Another bop of a video, but I was absolutely pulling my hair out when you guys didnt bring up the Fan Made film starring Nathan Fillian as Nathan Drake, which was a 10ish minute short film that was genuinely better than the whole official movie, the casting was genuinely S tier
My wife showed me that short after finishing Uncharted 4 five years ago, and we both agreed he is a perfect Drake in both looks, and acting.
Nathan fillion’s personality of drake is exactly like him than Tom holland
Cuz its not part of the video. Bad writers don't know when to cut out fluff
Dbags say "bop"
Whoever scored the uncharted games will forever be remembered.
Just Eddy playing the music for drakes fortune gave me goosebumps.
Ironically, the complete opposite effect the movie had on me in theaters.
Imagine if they had given the Nathan Fillion fan film a huge budget to make a whole movie
With a different cast and a character driven script where the plot was secondary to the motivations of the characters, who knows, it could’ve been super fun. Great video!
So cool to see that you guys decided to adapt those inanimate voices into real people! Have to say though that this casting is a little offbeat, but it's nice to see you guys giving these two fresh actors a gig!
More whitewashing
I wrote an essay on this topic for college and the general idea for game adaptions is just to make sure you stick to the games premise and don't make an entirely new unseen story
I think the overall biggest issue is that writers are trying to sum up entire series in a 2 hour hodgepodge story. Filling in lots of visual highlights of the series at the cost of any meaning.
The greatest video game adaptations have either been taking much smaller samples of the source material and writing around that (like Last of Us) or creating their own story that captures the essence of the game (like Cyberpunk Edgerunners and the Mario movie).
Hollywood has seemed to think that people who love the games just want to see their favorite scenes in live action, but they’re finally starting to learn that characters are the most important thing to get right.
I love the dynamic of these videos! It's almost like you are two people instead of one. I don't know how you do that Tony, but props to you!
Having not played The Last of Us, I loved the show. Not a bad episode in the bunch, I cried hardcore at episode 3 (no shame in saying so).
Yeah exactly episode 3 is the biggest deviation from the game and it’s still my favorite episode. I love how it tv can expand the world and still give he same result
was that the nick offerman episode? i didn’t know that didn’t happen in the game since i’ve also never played it, was one of my favorites
I loved the games and have been playing the first game regularly for the past ten years, and I love every episode of the show. The show is great because of the appreciation it has for the games and because of the little changes that add to the story better than the game did. Episode three is phenomenal, they took my favorite part of the game and changed it from teaching Joel how to use a shotgun to being able to play a significant part in the story by showing the audience that in this violent world, the only thing that matters most anymore is the loving relationships we have.
@@cdw2468 yes, that was the Offerman episode. Their story was changed to be "the happiest ending in the world of Last of Us", and it still had me bawling on the couch.
As a gay transgender man, having a non-stereotypical gay couple have a story that is still tragic, because the setting is tragic, but the tragedy isn't the focus, two people meeting and falling in love and making the best out of their tragic setting that ends with them choosing how their story ends was just so absolutely fantastic. Also, the fact that we never see their bodies, and their friends respect the note (literally burying the "bury your gays" trope by NOT BURYING THEM) and then finishing on that window shot that is reminiscent of the menu screen from the first game, the absolute perfect casting of both characters... it all comes together to make one of the greatest episodes of television ever made.
The little giggle Nick Offerman does when he eats the strawberry is also one of the most adorable things I've ever seen in my entire life.
It's acutally kinda sad seeing how they butched it that hard, I'd still love to see a mini series or something like that, just another try to do it right this time with a cast of characters that fit
great video as always! in my opinion, adapting these sorts of linear narrative video games into movies is generally a bad idea because you'll be squeezing dozens of hours of content into one movie. it makes much more sense to adapt them for tv.
The uncharted series still hold up as one of the best video game series of all time
Dude they finally acquired an extra vessel for Tony's ethereal consciousness. The kind of things you can do when the subs start picking up, it is crazy.
Eddy and Tony are like if parents had two kids at the same time
I always love the bits of history you guys dive into for these, like holy shit I never knew the development for the Uncharted movie was so insane
Uncharted would be such a good story for a long standing tv show.
No, I prefer a movie series that is 100% faithful to the games
Can’t believe there’s finally a live action adaptation of Tony
13:29 I don't think they over corrected bc I didn't even notice the lack of infected until you just brought it up. The story is that good.
The best part of the Uncharted movie was the Nolan North cameo. Not only does it pay respect to the original actor, it also suggests that somehow the Nathan Drake from the games actually exists in this universe and Tom Holland is just some other guy who happens to have the same name and a similar life.
Having the guys in the same room makes it so much better… here’s to many more, Burboys!
The fan made Uncharted with Nathan Fillion as Nathan Drake is the only live action adaptation i need
Little confused, did everyone forget about Tomb Raider? That was the first cinematic RPG I ever played and is still killer today.
As much as I like Tom Holland in the Spider-Man movies, he's kinda trapped with his baby face - It's not only going to be hard to see him as anyone other then Spider-Man, but also as someone older then 20. Mark Wahlberg simply isn't a good choice for movies outside of his normal wheelhouse, let alone in a role that requires gravitas.
I think the biggest reason is that TLOU has a laser focus on what story it want's to tell, the story, tone and characters are all in synch which make sit easy to adapt. uncharted is a big mix, there are serious interpersonal problems in 4 and serious discussion about identity on 3 but also the violence wildly goes from campy and whimsical to being shot in the gut and fending off a kill squad in a very tense scene; add Nate doing hand puppets on a Moroccan prison and you have a blend that is very difficult to translate. Not impossible because we have the OG Indy movies but that is even worse because the inevitable comparison is there...... all that said, yes the biggest screw up is not getting Bruce Campbell to do Sully.
this video also perfectly encapsulates the issues i had with the witcher adaptation. passion is such an important aspect of any project but especially one that has a beloved source material like a book or game
There was an Uncharted fan film with Nathan Fillion (of Firefly fame and Nathan Drake's primary inspiration) and besides more faithfully adapting Uncharted's cast, it also faithfully captured the energy of the games' blockbuster action sequences and shootouts with a low budget.
One of the reasons for the fan film's success, in my opinion, is its cinematography--the camera tracks Nate in a single shot during an extended action sequence to make the viewer feel like they're *with* Nate, like a player viewing Nate in the game. The Tom Holland film rarely, if ever, does this, instead doing very bog-standard action shots you'd see in any blockbuster with hard cuts and shaky cam.
While filming sequences in one shot is logistically very difficult, doing so would have gone above and beyond to making the Hollywood adaptation of Uncharted a far more enjoyable film (alongside recasting Nate and Sully).
I'm SO glad you commented this! I had no idea about the fan film. I just watched it and you are so right! It's everything a filmed adaptation of Uncharted should be. Just had to come back and thank you for bringing it up
Really enjoying seeing both of the burback boys on screen. Also loving the interesting content you're uploading on this channel. Keep up the great work boys!
Edit: the henchman death was fantastic.
I always thought someone should compare and contrast the Uncharted movie and The Last of Us TV show. Really cool to see Eddy Burback (and his clone?) do such a thorough analysis of the two.
Wow I'm so glad they made a live action Burback movie, this is exactly how I imagined it would be!
That henchman death reminds me of something you would see in a lego video game
Love the new development to the stye! I love how the Burback vids feel like a combination between a classic video essay and a podcast, and addition of seeing you guys really adds to that! Keep up the good work!
although i’ve only watched a let’s play for uncharted 4 (and immediately fell in love with it), i was so excited for the movie, and then early on in the production, i find out one of my most favorite actors is playing a young nathan drake. i swear it was a perfect match. here i was thinking that maybe a quarter of the film was going to be nathan’s past meaning the adult nathan drake is still to be casted… and then years went by… and then that photo of tom clearly dressed as adult nathan drake came out. i’ll admit, i thought it was pretty sick, but i was also worried… and then the movie came out.. although i still had fun watching it, it wasn’t the adaptation i was looking for of the game i fell in love with a few years back. but honestly, i feel like tom holland could’ve pulled off nathan if they actually put love and care into the movie. it’s not even an adaptation at this point, it’s just a completely different movie that so happens to have the same name as a game.
Eddy went full-on Armie Hammer in 'The Social Network' in this one. So impressive.
3:45, it was around then u realised these are two different guys i thought it was just ine guy talking to himself on green screen
I absolutely loved watching you guys play through KH2. I rewatched the VODS everyday until twitch deleted them. Those VODS got me through one of the darkest times in my life and I really miss watching them. I’d pay to see them again.
What's kh2
@@Shane_111 Kingdom Hearts 2
An rdr2 movie would be incredible. A broader audience needs access to that game’s message without having to play 60 hours of video games
Not related to this video, but..
Yesterday, I was watching an old Eddie video (The Dare one) while playing Breath of the Wild. I caught my first horse for the playthrough while watching the video, so I named him Eddie.
Eddie died 5 minutes later to a Guardian. Sorry, Eddie. ❤
sounds like a solid script for a movie to me ;)
That was this eddie. He came out of youtube to be in your game :)
i watched te uncharted movie w my mom and sister (none of us have every touched an uncharted game) and we were all incredibly bored until the ship chase which was the most anxiety inducing thing ive ever seen. like my sister actually yelled out loud when the shit crashed into the rocks THEY WERE PERFECTLY PRESERVED FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS
same with the salt urns it actually made us upset when they broke
I care soooo incredibly much about TLOU. Obviously the show did some things different, but I loved it. nothing will ever compare to the game ofc but as far as video game media goes, TLOU was for sure top tier.
honestly they expanded on the games (and even fixed some issues) perfectly all i have are nitpicks.
@@ddjsoyenby expanded? They got rid of all the tiny moments and dialogues which made the game so great, if anything the show felt rushed.
I never saw last of us don’t have HBO probably never will never interest me
I thought my glasses were supposed to stop me from seeing double. Now I see to burbacks
Mark didn't even grow a moustache, of course it was his fault.
What pissed me off most about the Uncharted movie is that most of the locations they were at throughout the whole movie were in fact CHARTED.
TONY ISN'T JUST A DISEMBODIED VOICE ANYMORE HELL YEAH
How did they not cast Tom Hanks as Sully when he literally played as Sully in Sully in 2016, while looking exactly like uncharted Sully?
Finally they made a live action adaptation of eddy and Tony. Been waiting for this.
Hey boys! This video feels like what I’ve been waiting for from Burback!!! I’ve LOVED every other video but this feels like y’all have hit your stride! Hilarious and accurate! Love y’all!
First time watching Burback Bros together and now I'm hooked
Can't believe they made irl adaptations of the Tony Burback and other guy
first line - long awaited TV "Adaption". Gold
That one short fan film with Nathan Fillion was so much better than the entire uncharted movie. When I was younger, I thought Nathan Fillion was Nathan Drake lol. I wish he was in the one new rather than Tom
You know, I would have loved a pre-prelogue with teenage Nate, that'd be sick.
actually really impressive for them to adapt tony into live action
Finally, they made Tony for live action.
I’m so glad you guys are burBack!!
The marketing of the Uncharted movie was incredibly confusing. Especially the claim the movie was going to be “a prequel.” A prequel to what? They didn’t do a young Drake story. They created a disjointed amalgamation of the games.
eddy feeling haunted by the percy jackson movie is so valid
the first one was good
@@mrkaji8913nope
Thank you for including the henchman dying. Totally necessary.
I really love this video's style. I wanna see more of tony and eddy time
The fact that they didn't cast Nolan North as Sully makes me so livid. It would have both been a great nod to his tenure as Nathan but he would have played Sully as the lovable yet tough character Sully is in the games.
nollan north was too busy being in literally everything else, same as jon st jon and the blumster
I remember a story I read somewher about the last years of LucasArts gaming division, and how they'd spent years prototyping the newest Indiana Jones game in a WHILE, and thought they had something really good, and were really excited to finish and put into people's hands.
Then Uncharted burst onto the scene, and they were all just "Oh. Oh, that's so GOOD. Augh, god damn it, that's better than OURS! FUCK! THEY BEAT US! AT OUR OWN GAME!"
And so that Indy project never saw the light of day, cause a totally different studio came along and filled the void left by years of no Tomb Raider and no Indy better than either series had before. Or at least more successfully.
And GOD. DAMN. I had forgotten how utterly FUCKED the Percy Jackson movies were. I recall reading shortly after they announced the Disney series, that the crew behind the movies sent Riordan the scripts, and he wrote back BEGGING to help punch them up, fix the OBVIOUS problems, they wouldn't even have to PAY HIM. Just don't put HIS material out there IN THIS STATE. And they said no.
I went, an eager nostalgic high schooler who read all the books over the course of middle school, to see the Lightning Thief in theaters. I left so disappointed that I didn't even bother watching the trailer for Sea of Monsters.
The fact you completely forgot 2018s Tomb Raider is incredibly funny to me
as someone who barely saw any of the marketing for this movie and have never played any of the uncharted games, i thought mark was gonna be nathan drake and they were gonna have flashbacks where tom was young nathan drake
The short film of uncharted made a few years ago with Nathan Fillian as Nathan Drake was really well done
The blood alcohol math part was hilarious
14:15: "I'm obviously in whatever David wants to do but the idea of it is so off the charts." Haaaaaaaa.
As someone whose never played uncharted I watched this movie and it became my hyper fixation for a year. Do you know how embarrassing it is to say your favorite movie has mark wahlberg in it? I’m so brave for that.
I feel like a movie adaptation of What Remains of Edith Finch would be really fun
I love how eddy finally made an appearance. I love how tony finally gave him the opportunity to shine
It's like you guys reached into my head and extracted a script for a video essay from a rant that no one in my life will let me dump on them. Sending you guys so much love for actually delving deeper into the Uncharted lore. Nate and Sully's relationship is just as deep as Joel and Ellie's, thanks for shining a light on them. Love you guys, keep up the great work, y'all are amazing!
This exactly the way I feel too