This has been a really helpful series of 'bite-size' tutorials Colin, which I'll be referring back to regularly for reminders. I find that using the Nudge Value tool (which I only recently became aware of) is a great way to make very small incremental adjustments to region positions. I notice that in your video you have 'Smart' as your Snap setting, although I believe that the sort of positional fine tuning I'm looking for can also be achieved by setting its value as 'Ticks.'
I don't "roll my eyes" (lol). This is the type of editing that takes up the bulk of time with recording. I agree w/you it's essential to do unless you have robots playing instruments. Another thing I do if I want to get really pinpoint editing (i.e. take out pops, burps, etc.) is to edit in the... editor (E key)! Of course this only works with one track at a time but I find it really useful as pulling up a track in the editor blows it up really big, then using the tools (pointer/marquee/drag/overlap) really can pinpoint stuff mega-precisely.
I was aware of the Marquee tool, I'm getting used to cut/editing (very rarely use flex time, just on vocals, drone lingering chords, harmonic pinchs, etc)... But... Grouping tracks like the way you showed in the beginning of the video was completely new to me! This is gonna be sooooooo useful: I always record a DI and a heavily distorted+compressed guitar. I can't identify transients on the distorted track, it's all too compressed, so I use the DI as the reference for editing. Only problem is that I have to do it twice and it sucks!!!!! Grouping the tracks like this will make that much easier, so thanks a lot!!! 🎉🎉🎉
You are so fast! I hope you have a video similar to this for GarageBand? I have trouble aligning click tracks with other audio that I’ve imported/downloaded and I’m just trying to o correct minor problems. Thanks
I found this reassuring, as I already have been using this technique. Mostly because I couldn't figure out flex-time. Also it reminded me about the two guitars to get that fat sound. Thank you.
Exactely the video I needed now! Thank you. I work on two songs where I sing duet with at girl and this helped a lot to get the singing tight together.
I mostly use amp sims for guitar and bass and find that the DI signal takes to Flex Time really well so long as you’re just tightening up a solid performance. I def wouldn’t use flex on an vocal or amped guitar though. Also, if you’re working with high gain guitars, it’s waay easier to make edits on a DI signal because you can actually see the pick attacks and transients without the distortion compressing the signal into a blob. So you can make really transparent cuts right at the beginning of the pick attack and line it up precisely where you want it. But even if you are micing a guitar amp, you can buy a DI box and that will allow you to record both signals at the same time. Then you can group those two signals together and use the di track as a guide to make edits (the way Colin is doing) but have all the changes applied to the amped signal too. Like how you would edit drums. I make a lot of heavy and rhythmic music and want everything to be super tight and all the transients lining up for maximum “punch you in the gut” effect. So just wanted to say that for anyone in a similar situation. Colin’s method is no doubt the best way to go but with DI you can get away with some flex editing and save some time. Also I’m super glad logic FINALLY got a proper nudge tool in the new update. Makes the manual editing process a lot smoother. Sorry, didn’t mean to write a book! Thanks for the tips as always Colin, glad to see you posting a lot more content lately!
Nice! I kind of stumbled into this technique. It is reassuring to see a pro do it. I agree with "Chuck" below: I would love to see this done with Garage Band. I suck at making the editing seamless because (to my knowledge) GB has no tool for cross-fading.
Thank you for the informative video. I am a long time music editor in Pro Tools and going all the way back to Synclavier. I have to be honest and say I'm not yet a big fan of logic? I am trying to learn it as some clients of mine are asking me to. The way you are demonstrating editing you are moving so quickly in terms of how the tools are interacting that it's hard to track what you're doing? Also, it looks to me like you are manually nudging audio files to align to the phase correlation of the other File? Why would you not use a command where you're nudging by even increments like in ProTools? It seems unnecessary or inaccurate to be nudging by eye and moving things by hand? Some of the difficulties that I have with logic are that really basic editing things like moving object to a specific moment in Time seems to be really complicated? Maybe I'm missing some thing and I need more time with the DAW but so far I'm not seeing a lot of ease of workflow with this particular tool. I do appreciate that you're trying to show how editing can work. Thanks for taking the time to make this. PS call Suu it's really interesting to watch you everything with audio files but I'm curious if this kind of editing style also works when it's purely midi?
Please help. Ive been messing around with settings in logic. Now Evertime i double click it automatically cuts/slice the track. How do i get it back to default? Thank you in advance 🙏
Do you have any videos on how to use a mini keyboard? If not, then, can you make one? I like making beats on the keys and drum pads but when I record they never lineup. Is that what quantizing is for?
Yeah you can quantize your stuff in Post if you’re not lining up right. Because of latency with gear/hardware sometimes it can be hard to ever line things up perfectly(depending on your setup) even if you’re perfectly in tempo
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This has been a really helpful series of 'bite-size' tutorials Colin, which I'll be referring back to regularly for reminders. I find that using the Nudge Value tool (which I only recently became aware of) is a great way to make very small incremental adjustments to region positions. I notice that in your video you have 'Smart' as your Snap setting, although I believe that the sort of positional fine tuning I'm looking for can also be achieved by setting its value as 'Ticks.'
I don't "roll my eyes" (lol). This is the type of editing that takes up the bulk of time with recording. I agree w/you it's essential to do unless you have robots playing instruments.
Another thing I do if I want to get really pinpoint editing (i.e. take out pops, burps, etc.) is to edit in the... editor (E key)! Of course this only works with one track at a time but I find it really useful as pulling up a track in the editor blows it up really big, then using the tools (pointer/marquee/drag/overlap) really can pinpoint stuff mega-precisely.
Just subscribed. Very informative
I was aware of the Marquee tool, I'm getting used to cut/editing (very rarely use flex time, just on vocals, drone lingering chords, harmonic pinchs, etc)...
But...
Grouping tracks like the way you showed in the beginning of the video was completely new to me! This is gonna be sooooooo useful: I always record a DI and a heavily distorted+compressed guitar. I can't identify transients on the distorted track, it's all too compressed, so I use the DI as the reference for editing. Only problem is that I have to do it twice and it sucks!!!!!
Grouping the tracks like this will make that much easier, so thanks a lot!!! 🎉🎉🎉
You are so fast! I hope you have a video similar to this for GarageBand? I have trouble aligning click tracks with other audio that I’ve imported/downloaded and I’m just trying to o correct minor problems.
Thanks
I found this reassuring, as I already have been using this technique. Mostly because I couldn't figure out flex-time. Also it reminded me about the two guitars to get that fat sound. Thank you.
Exactely the video I needed now! Thank you. I work on two songs where I sing duet with at girl and this helped a lot to get the singing tight together.
Good video, mate.
This is really good. Can you compare to just using a groove track sync'd to the drum?
I think this video teaches to go to the next level toward a more perfect or professional record.
I mostly use amp sims for guitar and bass and find that the DI signal takes to Flex Time really well so long as you’re just tightening up a solid performance. I def wouldn’t use flex on an vocal or amped guitar though.
Also, if you’re working with high gain guitars, it’s waay easier to make edits on a DI signal because you can actually see the pick attacks and transients without the distortion compressing the signal into a blob. So you can make really transparent cuts right at the beginning of the pick attack and line it up precisely where you want it.
But even if you are micing a guitar amp, you can buy a DI box and that will allow you to record both signals at the same time. Then you can group those two signals together and use the di track as a guide to make edits (the way Colin is doing) but have all the changes applied to the amped signal too. Like how you would edit drums.
I make a lot of heavy and rhythmic music and want everything to be super tight and all the transients lining up for maximum “punch you in the gut” effect. So just wanted to say that for anyone in a similar situation. Colin’s method is no doubt the best way to go but with DI you can get away with some flex editing and save some time. Also I’m super glad logic FINALLY got a proper nudge tool in the new update. Makes the manual editing process a lot smoother.
Sorry, didn’t mean to write a book! Thanks for the tips as always Colin, glad to see you posting a lot more content lately!
Great comment. Really appreciate it!
Nice! I kind of stumbled into this technique. It is reassuring to see a pro do it. I agree with "Chuck" below: I would love to see this done with Garage Band. I suck at making the editing seamless because (to my knowledge) GB has no tool for cross-fading.
Thank you, your videos are really helpful! 🙏🤘🎸I learned some cool details here!!
Colin this is another proof the most valuable information on RUclips has little views.
Thank you. This is just what I needed to see . . . Logic is good for audio editing. ;-)
Excellent Tips thanks
Great video, some of us guitarist don't mind you fixing our timing :P
Great video! I try to keep guitars and bass not so much “locked on the grid” it can also make the recording feel natural with slight variation.
Dig it! I take that approach on a lot of songs too. Just depends what the song calls for
Thank you for the informative video. I am a long time music editor in Pro Tools and going all the way back to Synclavier. I have to be honest and say I'm not yet a big fan of logic? I am trying to learn it as some clients of mine are asking me to. The way you are demonstrating editing you are moving so quickly in terms of how the tools are interacting that it's hard to track what you're doing? Also, it looks to me like you are manually nudging audio files to align to the phase correlation of the other File? Why would you not use a command where you're nudging by even increments like in ProTools? It seems unnecessary or inaccurate to be nudging by eye and moving things by hand? Some of the difficulties that I have with logic are that really basic editing things like moving object to a specific moment in Time seems to be really complicated? Maybe I'm missing some thing and I need more time with the DAW but so far I'm not seeing a lot of ease of workflow with this particular tool. I do appreciate that you're trying to show how editing can work. Thanks for taking the time to make this. PS call Suu it's really interesting to watch you everything with audio files but I'm curious if this kind of editing style also works when it's purely midi?
Please help. Ive been messing around with settings in logic. Now Evertime i double click it automatically cuts/slice the track. How do i get it back to default? Thank you in advance 🙏
Do you have any videos on how to use a mini keyboard? If not, then, can you make one?
I like making beats on the keys and drum pads but when I record they never lineup. Is that what quantizing is for?
Yeah you can quantize your stuff in Post if you’re not lining up right. Because of latency with gear/hardware sometimes it can be hard to ever line things up perfectly(depending on your setup) even if you’re perfectly in tempo
Sounds like Arctic Monkeys or something. 👍🏻
🙌🏼 HUGE inspiration for this song
@@TheBandGuide Sounds great ... I tried the riff after listening to it. Nice groove.