Great job. Is there plans out there for your style of Tatara furnace? We a Tatara melt last summer and are for a better furnace style then what we used.
just shows you how primitive these traditional steels really are for those who just don't understand and insist on ascribing nonsensical mythological properties to a material that is exceeded in most ways by something you can get in a dollar store these days. thank you, science and technology.
Thank you. The ignorance out there runs deep. Japanese iron has always been scarce and of poor quality - these techniques, including the folding and refolding of sword blanks don't impart some mythical prowess to the steel or the soul of the blade maker or whatever horseshit people come up with - it's simply to improve the steel and turn what is essentially pig iron into something usable for a blade. It's also annoying when people criticize the use of power hammers etc as not "traditional" or not "befitting the ethos" of Japanese blade making. The fact of the matter is that blacksmiths of old would have used any labour-saving device available if it had been invented at the time.
@@LilMissMurder3409 Very much so. Power hammers have been around for a few thousand years, they were just powered by water. And smiths who weren't fortunate enough to live near water power had manual power hammers... aka strikers/apprentices. Our ancestors were very good at doing their jobs, and just as creative as we are today, just different mediums.
Such an amazing process that I have never even considered how it was made. I have SO many questions lol. I was shocked at how HARD the material was when it was still up to forging temperature by how difficult it was to cut, even with the power hammer! I would love to purchase a piece of the slag (impurities) known it was made during this process and by this beautiful craftsman. If that is possible, please let me know :)
Lots of respect for Japan and Japanese people and their cultural values love them . But I found it a bit hard to watch the lady doing all the heavy lifting and hard work while he was 2:28 just wandering around. And I know he's the master Smith but still. Again not a complaint I respect the master Smith but he should realise that when they are done with the Smithing work she probably has to cook dinner to lol😅
I thought tamahagane was made in that square shaped furnace called a tatara? This looks more like a regular bloomery furnace. Yes it uses iron sand, but in the end, that's just a source of magnetite isn't it?
@@benwinkel yeaah! i agree! but a tradicional made things always incrase the price like a famous phrase "hand made" inscription, also make thinks one by one, become in a "special item" for the customers and increase a perception of have a "unique" item [sorry about my english] but yeah in resume you have the reason specially from the point of view of the industry or massive production cost, and eficience
Most gold will be left behind, but there's always some that gets caught between grains. That's why it's best to pan any black sands a couple of times before magnetically separating it. Depending on the grade, the magnetite sand will permanently magnetize if a strong magnet gets near it.
@@benwinkel lol, they aren't holding onto it to try to be competetive with modern steel manufacturing. They make steel for traditional swordsmiths and other tradition japanese cutlery makers/smiths. And it is economically worth it, check out the prices for a traditionally made nihonto from tamahagane. They're making their money.
It surprises me that despite the respect and responsibility that the japanese have in their jobs, none of these workers had safety shoes or thick leather gloves that are BASIC in forging and foundry work, nor did they have dust masks or goggles or they didn't have facial deflectors either, nor did they have helmets on, I mean, were they never instructed about the importance of using PERSONAL SAFETY EQUIPMENT? very interesting job, even more so that a lady is taking charge of a job like this, but WHAT ABOUT THE MANDATORY PERSONAL SAFETY ELEMENTS THAT EVERY WORKER MUST HAVE AND USE? That's why I told that it seemed strange to me.
@@YOPISO-g2n does anyone still produce using the old ways ? And is there a video demonstrating the process ? You say easy but this looked difficult. I can only imagine how hard the other way is.
Тамахаганэ (яп. 玉鋼, «алмазная сталь») - разновидность японской стали, известная с древности и используемая для изготовления клинков мечей и ножей. Производится из железа, добываемого в префектуре Симане на западе Хонсю. Оно добывается в форме чёрного песка, точнее чёрного пескообразного магнетита (Fe3O4) - сатэцу (яп.
Примерно по такой же технологии производили железо славянские племена. Из глины делалась круглая печь, в которую загружать железную руду собранную на болотах. Руда перемешивалась с древесным углем. В печи зажигался огонь, и мехами продувался воздух. Когда печь оставалась её разбивали, и извлекали крицу, и так же проковывали, чтобы уплотнить металл, и выгнать из него растворённый воздух.
This video show us the very definition of a 'long, hot, grueling day of work'. Good job, young lady. It was a pleasure watching the process. このビデオは、まさに「長く、暑く、過酷な一日の仕事」の定義を示しています。 頑張ったよ、お嬢さん。 その過程を見るのは楽しかったです。
The Japanese get on my nerves a little, they make everything a science, even when splitting charcoal they pay attention to precision, as if that would have any impact on the end product. You can also exaggerate everything.
Well in this case it does have an effect on the end product. The charcoal needs to be properly sized for sufficient airflow, slag drain, and iron contact. Too big and the iron sand falls to the bottom, too small and you have crap airflow, slag doesn't fall properly and the iron doesn't get enough heat to melt and take on carbon to become steel.
Geloof niet dat een vakman zijn geheim prijsgeeft😂. Zou tegen alle regels van het gilde ingaan. Hoe de echte meester werkt krijgt een amateur NOOIT te zien.
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20分があっという間でした。
魂込めた職人さんの作業行程は凄い‼️
はるか昔から、この作業が行われていたと考えると感慨深いものですね！
動画の公開に感謝します❤
Such a slow and precise beginning is why the steel is so good. Quality can not be hurried.
I remember this family...
Old video whit babe in workplace...
I like traditional technics.
Thank you
I love the charcoal they use.. very good quality!!!!😊
Parabéns pelo trabalho!!! Muito talento e dedicação à arte!!!
Japanese go full on work ethic with everything they do, especially trades ❤ extremely dedicated culture 😊
素敵な共有ビデオ...とても便利で役に立ちます 素晴らしい ..インドネシアの伝統的な金探鉱者からのご挨拶 🇮🇩🌼👍👍
Que coisa maravilhosa essa menina seguindo a tradição da Família no fabrico do aço ancestral! DEUS Abençoe essa menina e sua família!🙏🙏🙏👍👍
奥様が窯にマッチで火を入れる瞬間の映像は、本当に印象的で絵になりますね！
Extra style points for lighting the charcoal!
Great job. Is there plans out there for your style of Tatara furnace? We a Tatara melt last summer and are for a better furnace style then what we used.
just shows you how primitive these traditional steels really are for those who just don't understand and insist on ascribing nonsensical mythological properties to a material that is exceeded in most ways by something you can get in a dollar store these days. thank you, science and technology.
Thank you. The ignorance out there runs deep. Japanese iron has always been scarce and of poor quality - these techniques, including the folding and refolding of sword blanks don't impart some mythical prowess to the steel or the soul of the blade maker or whatever horseshit people come up with - it's simply to improve the steel and turn what is essentially pig iron into something usable for a blade. It's also annoying when people criticize the use of power hammers etc as not "traditional" or not "befitting the ethos" of Japanese blade making. The fact of the matter is that blacksmiths of old would have used any labour-saving device available if it had been invented at the time.
@@LilMissMurder3409 Very much so. Power hammers have been around for a few thousand years, they were just powered by water. And smiths who weren't fortunate enough to live near water power had manual power hammers... aka strikers/apprentices. Our ancestors were very good at doing their jobs, and just as creative as we are today, just different mediums.
Interesting process. Thank you for sharing this.
Knife making with tamahagane please, love the japanese way of making knife and katana.
Me at my desk pushing papers and slowly dying in front of my computer
I want to make swords, the steel is calling me…
We share the same problem...
Buen trabajo .. gracias por compartir 💪🇨🇱👍
Thank you for that video. So interesting.
These people are extra ordinary. Working next to furnace for 8 hours is hell. Its melting me while I watch this video.
The charcoal is used for the carbon to add to the iron sand. Coal was the original way carbon was added to steel.
Masterful skill, incredible beauty.
Amazing.
Its a really big job to produce this...
昔の人が機械無しで名刀作ってたのとか、凄すぎて意味分からん。
本当ですよね。こんなに優れた日本人の子孫は「意味わからん」と言って思考停止するほどに退化してしまったのが残念でなりませんね。
@@DJYAMAMEいや、コメ主の言う事もわかる。実際先祖が持っていた技術をどういうものか解明しようとして、科学者も歴史のプロも「意味わからん(´；ω；｀)」っていうくらい。
@@DJYAMAME
コメ主も本当に意味がわかってないわけじゃないと思うよ😅
言葉のあやってやつ
汲んでやれよ
性善説で物を考えられる日本に作り上げて下さった先人達に感謝、です。
Such an amazing process that I have never even considered how it was made. I have SO many questions lol. I was shocked at how HARD the material was when it was still up to forging temperature by how difficult it was to cut, even with the power hammer! I would love to purchase a piece of the slag (impurities) known it was made during this process and by this beautiful craftsman. If that is possible, please let me know :)
It's a thing of beauty!!
SUPER!!!!!
Harte Arbeit💪💪💪💪👍👍👍👍
awesome loved that thanks for sharing
Merci pour le partage de la vidéo
Thats extremely labour intensive work, how do they make that pay?
By pricing their knives and swords accordingly.
🇫🇷🙏🙏🙏👏👏🇯🇵
Très honoré de partager votre savoir-faire ancestral et de pouvoir le transmettre aux générations futures
de france, un très difficile travail venu du fond des ages, ls Japonais sont très méticuleu et un grand savoir-faire !
Lots of respect for Japan and Japanese people and their cultural values love them . But I found it a bit hard to watch the lady doing all the heavy lifting and hard work while he was
2:28 just wandering around. And I know he's the master Smith but still. Again not a complaint I respect the master Smith but he should realise that when they are done with the Smithing work she probably has to cook dinner to lol😅
I somehow get the impression this isn’t her”regular job”.
She wants to make steel. Why should he treat her any different than any other apprentice?
Merci pour cette vidéo et ce morceau de vie avec vous…
I thought tamahagane was made in that square shaped furnace called a tatara? This looks more like a regular bloomery furnace. Yes it uses iron sand, but in the end, that's just a source of magnetite isn't it?
Very cool, thanks for sharing with us!!😊
Any differences of quality tamahagane made by modern furnace compare to traditional furnace?
just the personal touch the tradition
That was a giant thing of beauty ❤❤
女性の村下ってかっこよすぎる・・！
How many swords can be made from that run of the furnace?
When they separate the ironsands with the magnet, does the 'waste' product contain precious metals like gold?
yes it could be, and de depuration liquid too
@@antoniosbarHolding on to traditions is very inefficient.
@@benwinkel yeaah! i agree! but a tradicional made things always incrase the price like a famous phrase "hand made" inscription, also make thinks one by one, become in a "special item" for the customers and increase a perception of have a "unique" item [sorry about my english] but yeah in resume you have the reason specially from the point of view of the industry or massive production cost, and eficience
Most gold will be left behind, but there's always some that gets caught between grains. That's why it's best to pan any black sands a couple of times before magnetically separating it. Depending on the grade, the magnetite sand will permanently magnetize if a strong magnet gets near it.
@@benwinkel lol, they aren't holding onto it to try to be competetive with modern steel manufacturing. They make steel for traditional swordsmiths and other tradition japanese cutlery makers/smiths. And it is economically worth it, check out the prices for a traditionally made nihonto from tamahagane. They're making their money.
以前タタラ見たけど、より身近でハガネの工程見れた
😊
Right now I have 300 lbs of magnetite sand that's been magnetically cleaned out 4 times. Would love to have a sword made!
Awesome video and I wish I had a 13th century katana. But I am no Samuri nor rich man. How much does a knife made with your steel cost ?
can be done by anyone if you have the time and recourses
This is exactly the same as how primitive technologies does it too, minus the skimming of impurities.
Halo kami hader menyimak seluduhnya 🙏👍👍👍❤
It surprises me that despite the respect and responsibility that the japanese have in their jobs, none of these workers had safety shoes or thick leather gloves that are BASIC in forging and foundry work, nor did they have dust masks or goggles or they didn't have facial deflectors either, nor did they have helmets on, I mean, were they never instructed about the importance of using PERSONAL SAFETY EQUIPMENT? very interesting job, even more so that a lady is taking charge of a job like this, but WHAT ABOUT THE MANDATORY PERSONAL SAFETY ELEMENTS THAT EVERY WORKER MUST HAVE AND USE? That's why I told that it seemed strange to me.
Good lord. Pop OSHA's teet out of your mouth.
炭で製鉄するんですね。
前の仕事で電気炉で溶かしていたのでこんなに時間がかかるんですね。
Love it
a job full of patience and calculation....
たたらで出来るのは鉧（けら）と呼ばれる大きな塊です
その中の一部に炭素含有量の少ない良質の玉鋼が含まれてます
したがって、動画テロップで33kgの砂鉄から13kgの玉鋼が」できたというのは
間違った認識です
島根県の吉田村で玉鋼を造った事が有ります。仰るようにこれは玉鋼では有りません。これを見てこんなに簡単に出来ると思われるのが悲しいです。日刀保が怒りますね。正しいコメントをありがとぅございました。
@@YOPISO-g2n does anyone still produce using the old ways ? And is there a video demonstrating the process ? You say easy but this looked difficult. I can only imagine how hard the other way is.
日刀保とこちらの作る規模が違うだけで作り方は同じ事をしてると思います。あとはテロップをつけた方の知識不足で13kの玉鋼としてしまったのが間違いとは言えますが、この後の工程もが省かれてるだけでは?、
@@popoLeon001
何が言いたいのかさっぱりわかりません
規模や工程などには一切言及してはいないはずですがなぜそこに言及されるのかが私には理解出来ません
いわゆるたたらではないですね。
職人してる女性って本当にかっこいいと思う
5:13 esta tomando mate?
nop
"to burn the sun for the fools amusement... Go ask the thunder.,...
My heart is too old for here."
Тамахаганэ (яп. 玉鋼, «алмазная сталь») - разновидность японской стали, известная с древности и используемая для изготовления клинков мечей и ножей. Производится из железа, добываемого в префектуре Симане на западе Хонсю. Оно добывается в форме чёрного песка, точнее чёрного пескообразного магнетита (Fe3O4) - сатэцу (яп.
キュポラとたたら、やってることは同じなのになんでたたらは鋼になってキュポラは鋳鉄なんだろう？ 原料の違いはあるけど鋳鉄ってどうやって最初つくったのか疑問に思った。炭素の含有量を調整できるのかな？
炉の形は似ていますが銑鉄生産は低温でケラを作るのでは無く、より高温で鉄を溶解させてより炭素量を高める事によって銑鉄を作る事を目指します。ケラであるハガネと銑鉄の違いは炭素量が少ないか多いかの違いだけですが、銑鉄は溶解しているのでケラより多くの不純物を含みます。例えば砂鉄に含まれるチタンや銅、硫黄、マンガンなどもケラより多く溶け込みます。最近の研究では銑鉄を下ろして鋼に変えるとこの不純物が介在して相州伝の地金に近いものが出来るというものがあり、銑押し法で日本刀の制作にチャレンジしている刀匠さんもいるそうです。特にチケイ、イナズマ、スナガシ、などの刀身のにある働きはチタン介在物によるものではないかと言われており、地金が柔らかいのにチケイが出るのは固いマルテンサイトによって現れるのでは無く、チタンの介在を伺わせます。
他のチャンネルの宣伝になるけど
刀剣を作ろうで「たたら」の回があるのでそこをご覧になると分かりやすいかも
Примерно по такой же технологии производили железо славянские племена. Из глины делалась круглая печь, в которую загружать железную руду собранную на болотах. Руда перемешивалась с древесным углем. В печи зажигался огонь, и мехами продувался воздух. Когда печь оставалась её разбивали, и извлекали крицу, и так же проковывали, чтобы уплотнить металл, и выгнать из него растворённый воздух.
請教前輩們...經過流放的鐵汁...是去除不必要的雜質嗎? 謝謝
凄く熱いんだろうな
Just kupchak trse 🧲different Luther natural meetings very much 🌋thanks 🥰🥰👍
初めて見ました。
El magma ,acero wotz,Damasco varias culturas utilirazaron esas tolvas con mineral de hierro en polvo i csrbon vegetal
玉鋼って自然界に存在する石だと思ってた
鋼玉との混同もありそう
Wait until Crom finds out they have discovered the Riddle of Steel.
او مرد خوشبختی هست که چنین همسری دارد که پا به پای او تلاش میکند ❤ من از این زن تشکر میکنم،😍🥰👩❤️👨⚒️🛠️❤️💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Gosh! I haven't been so bored for ages. A little editing might not go astray.
How can you have a craftsman who is a woman? She is a craftswoman or an artisan.
Здравствуйте Подскажите что за железный порошок вы используете спасибо за ответ.
Это местные железосодержащие пески. Не японцам можно расслабиться. Штука достаточно уникальная
Процесс природы/постепенность/
Лишь ЭВОЛЮЦИЯ смогла/
Единственная/непременно/
Не подведёт Миг/никогда!//
コメントが日本刀かっけー
程度で溢れてて受ける
Basically, they have to go through these elaborate steps because the ore is low grade crap, right?
She is beautiful.
It looks like Godzilla eczema when finished.
昔はコンプレッサーの代わりに人力フイゴ、水圧ハンマーの代わりに鎚でこの作業をやってたんだよねえ。🤔
制作高碳钢？
女性の方も村下ができるんだな
Nice job. Beautiful girl
近くに刀鍛冶住んでるんだっけ?
Nice work. But the be bore job.
(・_・D フムフム 興味深い！！！
Давно уже проспали все свои плюшки,ширпотреб лепят с умным хлебалом!
Гарна робота
たたら製鉄見てていつも思うんだけど、炉の上部で燃えてるCOガスを送風口に戻せば熱効率上がるし燃料効率も上がるから良いはずなんだけど
送風口にジェットポンプ付けて出口ガスを一部取り込めば構造は複雑にならないし
流量調節すれば酸素量の可変も出来て炉のコントロールも出来る
って意見してきたらどーすか？
最初のマッチで着火するシーン、めちゃくちゃカッコいいけどあれ多分一酸化炭素ですよね。怖すぎる。
大変なお仕事ですね。
( ；´Д｀)熱そう
This video show us the very definition of a 'long, hot, grueling day of work'. Good job, young lady. It was a pleasure watching the process.
このビデオは、まさに「長く、暑く、過酷な一日の仕事」の定義を示しています。 頑張ったよ、お嬢さん。 その過程を見るのは楽しかったです。
are you sister of Itsuki Hirata the MMA fighter?
The Japanese get on my nerves a little, they make everything a science, even when splitting charcoal they pay attention to precision, as if that would have any impact on the end product. You can also exaggerate everything.
Well in this case it does have an effect on the end product. The charcoal needs to be properly sized for sufficient airflow, slag drain, and iron contact. Too big and the iron sand falls to the bottom, too small and you have crap airflow, slag doesn't fall properly and the iron doesn't get enough heat to melt and take on carbon to become steel.
I follow them on Instagram....
No processo tradicional o forno e de barro (tatara)
❤👍👍👍🇩🇪
Geloof niet dat een vakman zijn geheim prijsgeeft😂.
Zou tegen alle regels van het gilde ingaan.
Hoe de echte meester werkt krijgt een amateur NOOIT te zien.
Cutting charcoals…BS dude BS
炭をいじる時はマスクしないと
鼻の穴が真っ黒になるよ😸
この夫婦はヒルナンデスで取り上げられていました。
目線より上の作業、そしてこのような場所への子供の誘導は恐ろしい、
why don't they wear mask?
むらげ!?
Rien ne vaut un Hatori Henzo.....
東京で作ったものも玉鋼っていうのか