About Serbian women, lets say for the past that Turkish pashas aswell as byzantines, Avar, Bulgarian and Mongol horse riders had fun with them... Thats why servants have large e1b1b (berber and j (anatolian) genes because servian girls enjoyed with everyone...
@@petarn2204 croats are pure dinaric and slav while servants are a mix of avar, mongol, turk, kurd, arab, chechen, berber, somali, roma&sinti etc. croats look all german and russian while every servant look indian and arab
Dalmatia is s historical region of croatia and not a "gift" it was conquered by venice once yes but the population spoked always croatian and italian, also in the croatian kingdom in 925 dalmatia was a part of it and later the union with hungary too in 1848 dalmatia was connected with the croatian slavonian kingdom. And there was a letter in 1821 that was.m counting all ethnic groups in dalmatia snd croatians where the largest ethnic group in that region.
Bro, This video was made by a french dude with limited access to information due to his languace and by the fact French people aren't really interested in other nations but theirs! Even less when its past germany to the east
@@ranskaman-elakoonsuomi Bro I live in France too and I know you cant search stuff in other languages like for example Croatian for your videos. I mean, you've just been corrected by this man and knew that too since I'm eastern European. Its not your fault for being from a place where your people are purposely more interested in your own region. I mean I would have known about some French history facts that you know
Dalmatia has a very diverse history. The name itself comes from the Dalmatae, an Illyrian tribe which was conquered by the Roman Republic, which evolved into the Roman Empire, it was again taken over by Odoacer´s Kingdom of Italy, then conquered by the Ostrogothic Kingdom ruled by Theoderic the Great, the Eastern Roman Empire, Kingdom of Croatia, Kingdom of Hungary, Kingdom of Bosnia (parts of it for a short period), Republic of Venice which Split it with the Ottoman Empire and the Republic of Ragusa / Dubrovnik, then the French Empire´s Illyrian provinces, Empire of Austria, Austria-Hungary, Kingdom of Yugoslavia, Fascist Italy, Socialist Yugoslavia and finally the modern Republic of Croatia. Few regions in the world have changed hands as often as Dalmatia and throughout a history spanning 2500 years.
serbs cleansed 200´000 croats and other non-serbs (czechs, slovaks, hungarians, germans etc.) from croatia serbs cleansed 200´000 bosnians and croats in bosnia and created the "republika srpska" serbs cleansed over 200´000 albanians and other non-serbs from republik of kosovo (who does not belong to serbia btw)
Oui mais envahi de touristes c'est un cauchemar malheureusement, il y a même une circulation alternée piétonne dans certaines rues... Il faut vraiment y aller hors saison...
@@ivicazubcic8718 Skoro uvj'ek ću gledati videozapise o Hrvatskoj, samo ja volim takve informacije o drugim zemljama. Hrvatska posebno. 🤭 You may correct me! :D
About Serbian women: "All the most beautiful and suitable women, young women, and Serbian girls from the village had to come to her, and play and sing while playing the bagpipes and other music in a circle, and thus enjoy the Turkish life. , the Turks chose the best and most beautiful Serbian women whom they liked, and with them they lay, rolled, hugged and publicly shamed themselves in front of their fathers, brothers and husbands, with the unfortunate Serbian women fornicating in the middle in broad daylight - Such a terrible trann Turkey reigned over poor Serbia". Konstantin Nenadović, Kojekude Serbia, Vienna 1883.
A part of Christian Church propaganda in XIX century, trying to gain rage against Ottoman Empire..... similar thing was done by Bulgarians, Greeks, and other Christian people in Ottoman empire. There is not a single trace of those kind of propaganda in previous period, in centuries predating revolutions of XIX century :)
But Croats in Croatia were 200 years under Turks....and Croats in Bosnia were, 550 years under Turks......so, yeah :) Nothing serious, because Croats in global were 900+ years under different foreign occupiers and soldier.... genetic mix of everything :)
@@nekoime8872 bla bla bla there is no conspiracy against serbs...serbs were turkish vazalls, serbs are a product of turkish, arab, kurd, and african gang-bg 500 years and also about mongol, avar, bulgarian and byzantine before that
Dalmatia wasn't a gift, the "Slavs" you mention living there were Croats and they were living there since 7th century. In fact, Dalmatia is where original medieval Croatia was located and it was THE Croatia until Venetians and Ottomans conquered it and what was left of Croatia was only around Zagreb and it elected Habsburgs as kings to save Croatia from Ottoman conquest. Venetians then took the coast from Ottomans, and Dalmatia was merely returned to Croatia after centuries of separation. Italians were only majority in several cities and their population is always overstated because of their historic territorial pretentions, specially under fascists. Entry of Croatia to Schengen will not accelerate emigration because Schengen is irrelevant in that respect. Schengen only allows one to cross the border without showing the ID. I doesn't make emigration easier, it only makes it you don't have to wait in line at the border crossing. Nothing else. How is this so hard to understand to Europeans? It just removes border crossings. Ease of moving, working and living elsewhere in the EU is part of just being in EU. Schengen does not affect it at all. Dubrovnik wasn't part of Venice for centuries by the time they gave Neum to Ottomans. It is not typically Venetian city, it's entire history is based on opposition to Venice. It's wealth came from being the main trade port between Balkans and Mediterranean, so it was very focused on inland trade and had trade colonies even on the Danube in Ilok, easternmost town in Croatia. It just wasn't expansionist. One alternative to the bridge was building a closed motorway behind Neum, but the problem isn't just that Bosnia is an independent state that is in the way, it's the nature of Bosnian politics. A country constantly on the edge of civil war with 3 nations who can't agree on even what is the colour of clear sky at noon. It is near impossible to agree anything with them and political instability makes any investment risky. It was safer to avoid them.
Ah, quindi i dalmati sarebbero stati croati. Ma allora perché parlavano neolatino e un neolatino diverso dal veneziano? Lo storico nazionalista croato non lo sa spiegare. Anche perché un nazionalista non può essere storico :) Che i croati siano penetrati verso il mare presto è vero, ma lo hanno fatto da invasori. Non ci sono sempre stati. Poi, i magiari e successivamente gli austriaci li hanno utilizzati in funzione anti italiana (visto che i dalmati neolatini preferivano aderire alla cultura veneto-italiana e creavano problemi).
Latinske Dalmatince ranog srednjeg vijeka nisam ni spominjao jer nisu ni spomenuti u videu ni relevantni. Taj narod se asimilirao u Hrvate i Venecijance i nestao kao zaseban identitet prije modernog doba.
Very bad video. Author doesn't have basic knowledge about Croatia. Historical Croatia was not Upper Croatia around Zagreb. That was medieval Slavonia. Historical Croatia till 1500s was today west and central Dalmatia, western Herzegovina and Lika. Very bad job. 👎👎👎
Moja, Naša Htvatska je lijepa, prelijepa. Prirodne ljepote, nacionalni parkovi, veći i manji gradovi, more, otoci, rijeke, jezera, gorski i nizinski krajevi, dvorci... Dobrodošli svi dobri ljudi ! 🇭🇷 u ❤️ !
Bosnia and Herzegovina did everything to prevent the bridge. Croats and Serbs were in favor of construction, and your Muslims were against it. It's true . I note that Croats and Serbs are Christians and constitutive people in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Dubrovnik was a subject of Venice for a very short time, it was much longer under the Byzantium, from 1358 it was de fecto independent after Hungarian king granted them autonomy. It was an independent state till 1808. when marshall Auguste Marmont arrived with the French army (450 years of independence). Make more research when you try to be specific.
When You say Vizantium, You mean Lands of Serbs and Seaside, cause Dubrovnik was in tax paying system of Serbian kingdom, if you don't believe ask fratrs in Santo Nicollo church in Barri Italia, all the gold and silver around church and its finances for long time were provided by serbian Nemanjich dinasty, from the tax Dubrovnik was paying to them FULL STOP!
@@andrijabarbaric3185 Ma važi, što je babi milo to joj se i snilo, mislim da za diskusije ovog tipa treba malo prelistati istoriju, ali ne hrvatsku verziju, koja je toliko tačna da predstavlja Jasenovac kao letnji kamp u kome su ljudi odmarali, ili se edukuj ili se ne blamiraj, i naravno tu su i fratri koji ponosno ističu da je kivot i crkva Svetog Nikole u Bariju okovana u zlatu i srebru koje je bilo porez od Dubrovnika srpskoj državi, dakle da li ti to impliciraš da jedan fratar laže? Ili da možda ne zna ko su bili ktitori njegovog hrama?
To add, Croatia wasn't always this shape. Back in midevil times modern day Bosnia and Herzegovina was mostly Croatian all the way until the Ottomans came. Then Croats emigrated and the demographics changed through wars to todays borders.
No, il was croatia only during the tomislav reign, after the short croatian indépendance croatia felt under domination of hungary. Et the bosnia and Herzégovine was part of zahumlje, raska wich Will take name of serbia later
@@MantraX049 this is what i said, an independence during the Tomislav familly reign, like 155-170 years, including the Kingston who was ban of hungarian krone (925-1100)
The historical croatia was the lanws between Rijeka to Slavonija and from Velebit and from Sisak to prekmurije, the other lands White extensions conquiered on byzantine empire or serbian kingdom or vénitien possessions etc etc...
@@vladdracula5962 If you don't have anything smart to write, than better write nothing. In that way, I would at least wonder, if you by any chance have some knowledge.
You used word "gift" for Dalmatia (3.35)? Ethnically, the most homogenous Croatian region (at least in last six or seven centuries) and place where was born both Croatian Kingdom in X. century and Croatian secular litterature in XV. century. Pretty colonial narrativ for someone so well informed. Please, find what your genial compatriot Fernand Braudel wrote about Dalmatia and Dalmatian cities in his masterpiece about Mediterranean and the Mediterranean world..
Dalmatia was definitely never homogeneous area, having in mind a large population of Orthodox Serbs (before genocide in ww2), Catholic Serbs, and Roman population.
Nice video, just a few notes :) - Neum was given by Republic of Ragusa to Ottomans to prevent having a land border with Venice after Ottomans were defeated in 1699, since Dubrovnik was an Ottoman ally and profited from trade with Islamic world and felt less threatened by Ottomans than by Venice which wanted to be the sole power in this area, so basically they wanted to be landlocked at that point in history, but it obviously created new problems in a new political landscape after both maritime republics were gone - Dalmatia doesn't border Istria, there is a region called Croatian Littoral between, it's roughly the coast of Primorje-Gorski kotar and Lika-Senj counties, and it can also be considered a part of central Croatia, it historically remained a part of Croatian Kingdom througout the centuries of Habsburg rule
Ragusea didnt create new problems since ragusea left the tip of the peninsula in neum in its posession so that ottomans nor bosnia cant expand diplomatically into sea
@@petarn2204 Who said anything about that? The point was the shape of modern borders, they are what they are at the moment because of what at that moment sovereign Republic of Ragusa conceded to the Ottoman Empire fearing the possibility of invasion from the territory of Venetian Dalmatia (which also wasn't part of Croatia at that moment)
Thank you for your video. You understood correctly that the shape of today's Croatia is odd. There are three points, I would like to highlight: 1. The share of tourism in the Croatian GDP, even by very generous measurements of the Croatian Ministry of Tourism - which encompasses all indirect effects too - exceeded at no time 19.6% of the GDP. 2. Croatia did not get a "gift" with Dalmatia being a part of it. Dalmatia is the cradle of Croatia's statehood. That's the territory were Croatian kings were crowned and where historically was the seat of the "Primas Croatiae". I think, historical sources are very rich about this and there is no need to elaborate further. 3. The historical reasons for the shape of today's Croatia: Basically, the borders to Slovenia and Hungary as well as Serbia run along the ethnic line of divisions. The borders with Slovenia and Hungary, with some minor exceptions at times, are roughly thousand years old and go along to a good part with natural obstacles such as the rivers Mur, Drava and Danube (with today's Serbia) in the north or Sutla and Kupa in the west. However, the borders with Bosnia and Herzegovina are a legacy of the centuries long Ottoman conquests. During the Turco-Croatian wars, the Kingdom of Croatia (at that time Croatian kings belonged first to the Anjou and from the 16th century to the Habsburg dynasties) lost territories to the Ottomans. The peace treaties in the early 18th century between the Catholic powers of the Habsburg Empire and the Republic of Venice on one side and the Sublime Porte on the other, have cemented Croatia's borders there until the end of the Great War. Why was Croatia under the Habsburg king not able to reclaim lost Croatian lands after the withdrawal of Ottoman forces from the provinces of Herzegovina, Bosnia and the Sanjak of Novi Pazar? After all, as a consequence of the Russo-Turkish War of 1877/78 the situation looked favourable for the Habsburgs to kick out the Ottomans from the historical lands of the Kingdom of Croatia, whose rightful rulers they have been continuously since 1527. At the Congress of Berlin in 1878 the Habsburgs obtained the right to administer the provinces of Bosnia and Herzegovina and to man a garrison in the Sanjak of Novi Pazar, while those provinces remained formally Ottoman. This, and the Hungarian ambitions to have the main say in the new provinces, were the main reason why a territorial reorganisation was not envisaged. Croatian demands to unite those provinces with Croatia in spite of a strengthened Russian influence in the Balkan peninsula seemed not advisable at the time, although the historical Croatian claim was considered to be valid. Instead, the Habsburgs decided to disestablish the Croatian and the Slavonian Military Frontier and to reunite those lands with the Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia. During the Ottoman rule the ethnic structure of Bosnia and Herzegovina underwent considerable changes. Croats sought refuge in the non-occupied parts of Croatia, and survived the Ottoman expansion in greater numbers only in Central Bosnia and Western Herzegovina. The Serbs, who formerly mainly existed in the eastern and southern parts of the two provinces migrated to western and northern Bosnia. However, a third distinctive group came into being. During the Turkish occupation a considerable part of Croats and Serbs converted to Islam and became this, what at the end of the 20th century would evolve into a Bosniak ethnicity. The Bosnian Serb assassination of Franz Ferdinand, the heir presumptive to the throne of Austria-Hungary ignited the Great War and meant the end of the Habsburgs as a great European dynasty. In the interwar period the provinces of Bosnia and Herzegovina were first reorganised in the new South Slavic state without an attempt to satisfy the national aspirations. But in the face of the threat of Hitler's new European world order, an attempt to solve the Croatian question was contemplated, resulting in a new territorial organisation which meant that the lands with a Croatian majority were largely integrated into the autonomous province of Banovina of Croatia. In Hitler's new European order, all of former Bosnia and Herzegovina was allotted to the war-time creation of the Independent State of Croatia. After 1945, the Yugoslav communists decided simply to re-enact the Habsburg protectorate of Bosnia and Herzegovina as an administrative unit in the same way like the other socialist republics. The national identities were thought to be of subordinate importance for the politically conscious in a social-class based system. When Yugoslavia collapsed, Bosnia and Herzegovina became the battle ground of three national aspirations, each of them fighting - at times - against each other. The war ended inconclusive, with no nation satisfied with its outcome. The Dayton/Paris peace treaty established a de facto international protectorate, in nature even more complicated and experimental than the Habsburg administration, solving nothing, just freezing a conflict and leaving it to brew into the next war. But if you are interested to know where the majority of Croats (or Serbs or Bosniaks) live in Bosnia and Herzegovina today, just find a map from the end of 1995 with the areas of control between Croatian, Serbian and Muslim forces after the signing of the Dayton/Paris Accords.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge of Croatian history. I have learnt a lot. You seem to be quite pessimistic as to the future. I have the impression that you fear that war will break out again sooner or later. With Croatia already in the E.U. and with the prospect of Serbia and Bosnia joining them in the years to come, economic and cultural exchanges may eventually increase and, with goodwill on the 3 sides, peace may last. What does any of the three countries have to gain from war? Obviously, the wounds of war take a long time to heal and I understand that hatred is still brewing, with ultra-nationalists, particularly in Serbia, adding fuel to the fire. But as EU member states have lived in peace so far, I hope and I believe that common sense will prevail.
@@paulsec8852 there will be no war in Balkan anymore. To talk about the possibility of war, you have to understand the circumstances the war took place first. Croatia is now part of NATO, have its's own military, it is internationally recognized which wasn't a case in 1991. Serbia (just as BiH) is also internationally recognized which means that other countries can also define its teritory just as what is not serbian teritory. Even if you look the criminal rate in these countries, you would find that it is pretty low. Only country with possibility of devoping some nationalistic tensions is BiH because it is multinacional but I strongly belive and know that there is not possible for war to be developed. Any war, of any kind, would destabilize economic situation and dispersed investments in all region, in which demographic and economic situation already ain't so pretty. And politicians with hands in power understand that. Most of young people in our countries dgaf about nationalism anymore, only patriotism (like when our footbal represetation plays) and are proud to be what they are (or not haha). Also, many people living abroad calls anyone which language thay can understand "our" or "Balkan". In short - NO, there won't be wars in Balkan anymore.
You explained well our circumstances through history and how we were treated unfairly. We have a right to our lost lands and we must never forget that. When an opportunity comes we need to take it and fulfill our one thousand year dream of full autonomy over all our lands.
@ידע הוא כוח i would not put my money on that, they say that the balkans is a barrel of gunpowder that explodes every 50 years or so, and so far theat has proven to be more or less right
C'est assez erroné, il aurait fallu faire plus de recherches pour cette vidéo : La Dalmatie n'est pas simplement un cadeau offert à la Croatie. Cette région fait partie du monde croate depuis des siècles et était peuplée aussi bien de croates/dalmates que d'italiens. Elle a changé de mains plusieurs fois au cours de l'Histoire et la République de Venise était une puissance parmi d'autres. La vraie raison de la forme étrange du pays est la conquête par l'empire Ottoman d'une partie de la Croatie. C'est à ça qu'on doit la frontière avec la Bosnie d'aujourd'hui. D'ailleurs, on trouve encore maintenant des zones majoritairement peuplées de croates en Bosnie, même si après la conquête ottomane une majorité de croates a émigré vers la Croatie actuelle.
Sad truth..... Croatia is going through increase of Nazism, according to DeutscheWelle reports. Huge problem for a country which perpetrated such terrible genocide.
servian girls have a lot of fun with turkish, albanian, arab, kurd, chechen and african pashas aswell as with bulganian and mongol horse riders and lets not forget the eastern romans who gave you the name SERB: De administrado imperio: "Serb" in the language of the Byzantines is a word that means "slaves", and in that language the word "serbula" usually means the shoes of slaves, and the word "tzerboulianous" means those who wear cheap, poor shoes. Serbs got that name because they became slaves of the Byzantine emperor. Well, after some time, those same Serbs decided to go to their own houses (return), and the emperor let them go.
Well, as A Croat you can always search your DNA in Istanbul, Budapest, Vienna, Venice... 1000 years under foreign soldier....it is like DNA genes coming from a bowl of spaghetti. 🤫🤫
You hit the jackpot when you made connection betwean former Austrian and turkish boarder, but you failed to mention that it had normal shape prior to that in medieval times when it was independent kingdom with most of Bosnia and Herzegovina inside. And the fact that turks were there is the reason that those are now separate states. Quite a crucial part. And that Croatia got Dalmatia and Ragusa as a gift? Far fetched, it is way mor logicaly explained with what I just wrote up there.
b&h wasn't 'inside' croatia for any significant period of time lmfao. both croatia was a part of the bosnian medieval kingdom and bosnia a part of the croatian/croato-hungarian kingdom for short periods as these kingdoms shrunk and expanded. normal thing that happenned between bordering countries, especially with overlapping noble families that wouldn't care for national identity or borders over power, even if they lived in times where national identity was remotely relevant. such was the case all over europe. arrival of turks had as much of an impact on bosnian borders/national identity only because there was already a distinct situation in bosnia before their arrival, religiously, geographically, politically, making the population more likely to accept islam than other areas that saw long-term occupation without nearly as much conversion.
@@vladimir-qx9sd "making the population more likely to accept islam" I suggest you look up the Ottoman Turkish "Devshirme" policy translated as "child levy" or "blood tax". The Ottoman Turks took small Christian children away from their parents and converted them. This practice went on for centuries in Bosnia.
@@northernstar4811 everyone in the balkans knows about devshirme but it's irrelevant to my point. more people converted to islam in b&h than in other neighboring areas despite devshirme being practiced in all of those areas because of the unique circumstances in b&h that made it a distinct region well before the ottoman conquest
@@vladimir-qx9sd "more people converted to islam in b&h than in other neighboring areas" The muslim population in Greece was 50% in the 19th century. So Greece had a bigger muslim population than Bosnia then. Bosnia was still a majority Christian country into the 18th century. Even Sarajevo had a big Roman Catholic population until Prince Eugene of Savoy (Prinz Eugen) burnt it down in 1697 AD, during his great raid into Bosnia. About 40,000 Catholics left Sarajevo & the surrounding area as they feared Ottoman Turkish revenge and went with Prince Eugene back into Croatia.
@@northernstar4811 'neighboring areas' as in its closest neigbors; comparison with other territories is irrelevant to my point which was that b&h, even before the ottoman arrival, had circumstances/situation/geopolitical factors distinct from those of its immediate neighbors whose ethnonationalists like to assume that it never had characteristics of a distinct entity but is rather a random conglomerate of islamicized serbia and croatia. these characteristics in turn made it relatively open to islam, which does not contradict the fact that the presence of christianity has always been also significant
It might be strange for some people, but Bosnian territory (herceg - bosna, )was always Croatian territory, many of our kings have been crowned there, and Croatian people have lived there before any muslims, or serbs.
OMG, Dalamtia is historical region of Croatia anexed in history and it is defenitly not a gift! But the answer why does Croatia geographically look like this is because modern day Bosnia and Herzegovina used to be a part of Croatian Kingdom,, Ottoman empire is responsible for the modern day shape of Croatia and cultural diffusion of Bosnia and Herzegovina
The coast of lika yes, we can agree on. But the islands and zadar were 100% venetian, they identified as venetians and they spoke only venetian. Furthermore the architecture and cities were built entirely by venetians. When austria annexed the lands they favored croatians because they were scared of italian nationalism and revolts, while croatians were smaller and all inside their empire thus easy to control. That's why the Austrians helped the croatians to slavify the regions changing italian names and surnames to croatian and forcing them to learn croatian.
What Venetia has with Italians? Funny how iredentistic ideas are all around Croatia while we have none, or half assed ones born out of reaction to formers.
@@FrancescoBedini well yeah, but I was explaining it in short and what you said is only small parts of Dalmatian region. artifacts, stones tablets and similar things from the 7th, 8th and 9th centuries were found on several islands of the Dalmatian region, which confirm the Croats and their culture in those areas!
@@ivanmatusic5540 I actually don't identify as italian at all. I just feel venetian. So it's incorrect to associate them to italy, but more than fair to do so with venice. I was in zadar three days ago, I felt as if I never left home.
Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo intéressante :) J'imagine qu'on a déjà dû te poser la question mais comment fais-tu pour connaître autant de choses sur l'histoire et la géographie ? Tu as l'air d'être un véritable puits de science quand j'écoute tes vidéos.
Hahaha merci beaucoup ! J'ai eu un très bon prof de géographie à la fac qui nous apprenait à lire une carte et à deviner quelle matière aborder sur le territoire
Hahaha merci beaucoup ! J'ai eu un très bon prof de géographie à la fac qui nous apprenait à lire une carte et à deviner quelle matière aborder sur le territoire
serbs were loyal vazalls of turks for 600 years...they gnsded all catholics from bosnia and croatia together with there turkish masters and settled there, serbs were to afraid to fight there occupnts unlike croats, we saw it very well durng ottoman occupation
E hablotip nowadays is mostly common among north africans, albanians and serbs...becasue african, albanian and arab pashas left their genetic trace in modern servian population during 600 years of ottoman occupation...theats why modern servants look more moroccan and afghan then white...
Just a note that further explains Croatia's peculiar shape - the historical "Croatia proper", now centered around Zagreb, has actually migrated to where it is now from the south during the country's thousand years of history. Originally, the core of Croatia lay in Lika and the hinterlands behind Zadar and Split, encompassing parts of today's Bosnia. As the kingdom developed and grew it first reached the Sava river, and then later the Drava river where contact with the Hungarians was established, thus delineating the broadest scope of the country as laying between Drava and the Adriatic. The core of the country then started a slow migration from Dalmatia and its hinterlands up further into Lika and Bihać (today the northwesternmost part of Bosnia and Herzegovina), and later during the long wars with the Ottomans, Croatia came to lose its territories in the hinterlands of Dalmatia and Bihać (then capital) so the core of the country moved closer to Austria, settling in the area between Karlovac and Varaždin. With Zagreb the last remaining unconquered urban area of any economic, political and clerical importance, it naturally assumed the role of capital over the next couple of hundred years.
Par contre j'ai pas compris la vision à moitié bouchée de Télé Crayon...via une vidéo de Psychodéclic, il à expliqué le fait qu'être de droite signifie vouloir désinformer les masses et les isoler de la verité. Pourtant dans l'histoire droite comme gauche la désinformation s'est faite de l'impérialisme japonais jusqu'au communisme nord-coréen...je le pensais plus ouvert d'esprit. Oui je suis de droite, non les gauchistes ne sont pas à proscrire. Juste les extrémistes de tous bords.
BETTER THAN TWILIGHT; The book "Balkangreuel" by Gottfried Sieben explains the realtionship about Smrdian girls and Turkish men :)) And also explain the "heroism" of mighty Smrdians against there Muslim occupants
@@petarn2204 croats have over 71% dinaric dna (especially in dalmatia and hercegovina) servants have over 30% (e1b1b) north african and 30% j1 (middle eastern) DNA the ultimative proof that croats are pure europeans and servants are just a product of 900 years gang bg by turks, arabs, romans, bulgarians, avars, mongols croats usually look german and russian serbs usually look indian and arab
@@bolner2231 Liar liar pants on fire, E and J haplotypes came to Balkan 3500 years ago :) it is easy to check on google. But following is true: Croats 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷 🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺 🇻🇦 🇻🇦 🇻🇦 🇻🇦 🇻🇦 950 years long foreign tropes enjoy love with Croatian grandmothers
@@nekoime8872 Albanians, Serbs, Kurds and Moroccans have the most E and J genes how it comes? It comes because Albanians, Kurds and African pasha enjoy with Serbian grandmothers...and serv look more arab then slav (croatian, polish russian etc.)
La Dalmatie un « cadeau » fait à la Croatie?… oui et non, plutôt non même. Les croates la peuple depuis au moins le VII ème siècle… le fait que la Dalmatie fasse partie de la Croatie est tout à fait légitime et ne vient pas de nulle part.
Hm. Au 7e siècle, les peuples d'aujourd'hui n'existaient pas... Vu que la religion est le principal motif de division, les Bosniaques et les Croates n'en avaient aucune avant les victoires turques...
@@zoharion8644 the name Croat existed way before Croatians came to the peninsula, they existed as Croats way before Ottomans, it had nothing to do with religion
@@Kokolo-ze2cp Oui, mais les seigneurs croates n'étaient pas les maitres de toutes les villes de la cote adriatique. Le peuple slave était dans l'interieur et en majorité un peuple d'agriculteurs.
Surtout que les "Croates" venus de Russie via la Pologne comme les autres ont surtout peuple ce qu on appelle la Croatie historique, région de rijeka à la slavonie et du Velebit à la frontière hongroise, les autres slaves de Bosnie ou de dalmatie se sont définis comme Serbes car orthodoxes et ayant rompu avec Rome, et les catholiques d Herzégovine ont été assimilés par extension aux croates de la Croatie historique Zagreb, Zagorje, Samobor, Sisak etc... Car si on enlevé la religion il n y a aucune différence même linguistique entre les Serbes de Bosnie les Musulmans (bosniaques) et les "Croates" d Herzégovine ou de Dalmatie, disons au sud de split-makarska
Muchas gracias por los subtítulos en español! Aunque el francés es una lengua romance como el español, me es muy difícil entender el francés hablado. Con los subtítulos, podemos aprender de muchos países sin tener que estudiar francés, un idioma hermoso pero complicado!!!
@@acronix2893 bueno, yo no soy español, soy mexicano, y los casi 500 millones de hispanohablantes de este planeta siempre agradecemos que se nos hable en nuestro idioma, en la lengua con la que pensamos pero, sobre todo, la lengua con la que sentimos.
@@RubenZepedaA He aprendido el español porque vivo en España desde poco y tengo que decir que vuestra idioma es una maravilla, y me gustaría mucho ir a Mexico, me parece un pais muy bonito
J'ai pris la route de Dubrovnik à la Dalmatie en voiture, lors du passage de ce morceau de territoire de Bosnie, on voit bien des douaniers, mais ils ne demandent strictement rien, comme si ce territoire appartenait à la Croatie, il est d'ailleurs sous son contrôle.
Eh bien tu as de la chance parce que personnellement j'ai été arrêté 15 minutes à la frontière pour que l'on me fouille ma voiture jusque dans les enceintes et qu'on me déplie tout mes vêtements pour voir si il n'y avait pas de la drogue dedans. Bon faut dire qu'un jeune de 19 ans avec un vieux Peugeot Partner immatriculé en France qui arrive à la frontière Bosniaque ça tape à l'oeil... Après je ne suis pas passé exactement par la même route, je voulais aller voir un peu en Bosnie. Le truc c'est que c'est théoriquement la partie croate de la Bosnie et qu'il sont de base plutôt sympa.
je confirme ,il y a quelques années dans une liaison réguliere autocar entre dubrovnik mostar et sarajevo meme constat au niveau de la localié litorale bosniaque de neum( aucun controle)......seul un relatif arret de plusieurs minutes pour l 'entrée en bosnie herzégovine en direction de mostar( les douaniers n 'ont meme pas regardé les passport union européenne)
Cette vidéo est une insulte à la mère patrie. La Croatie n'est pas difforme, et il n'y a pas de vraie Croatie. Toute la Croatie est vraie. Il n'y a pas d'italiens en Istrie, ni de serbes à Vukovar.
@@zer-atop3032 "Difforme" n'est pas une insulte ; durant l'Histoire, il y a des moments où le territoire de la France, et même différents territoires européens n'avaient aucun sens ! (Et moi je le prend pas mal) 🤷♂️ Ensuite quand TéléCrayon parle de "Fausse Croatie" ou de "Croatie", c'est un abus de langage, mais ce sont des termes qui exisent, pour désigner une partie du pays : bref ce n'est pas son avis et encore moins une insulte :/
@@zer-atop3032 Ah, et il y AVAIT des Italiens sur la côte (la Mer Adriatique borde l'Italie, et à l'époque, la ville de Venise savait profiter de cette géographie)
@@zer-atop3032 Si il n'y plus d' Italiens en Istrie c'est par ce que d'abord les Ustachis du poglavnik les ont assassinés et plus tard les bandits serbo-communistes de Josip Broz-Tito.
Croatia is kinda crossword, that's why it's so interesting. Croats together with Poles, Armenians, Moldovas are Antemurale Christianitatis given by Pope for fighting Ottomans. They were stoped here and that's all philosophy why we have today islam majority in Bosnia and why Croatia is shaped this way. Dalmatia was never a gift, it is a heart of Croatia with long suffering history and i as Dalmatian-Croat with over 800 years old family tree guarantee that. To correct few comments here, Dalmatia wasn't under Venice for thousands years but cca 350years. It was way more time in Hungaro-Croatian kingdom. Our shape today is our sacrifice for defending Europe from Ottomans together with ones i mentioned above,you welcome. P. S. Take a look at 30year war between christians and protestants and who were Croats there. That's when neck tie (kravate-croate) was invented.
Serbs came in run from Ottomans to what we call millitary frontier and yes they defended those places near border. It was not ethnic cleansing simply cause Serbian krajina authorities gave order to people to leave Croatia. Tuđman call them to stay but to be honest, after operation Storm our people made crimes in revenge so it may be smarter for them to leave. But it doesn't make whole operation crime and it wasn't ethnic cleansing. There is a lot videos, documents and Serbian conffesions claimed that civilians were ordered to leave. They even killed their own civilians while escaping in tanks... And now accusing us for ethnic cleansing. Transkript of Milošević talking goes: "less then 6000Croats defended Vukovar for three months and you can't defend Krajina for 24h with 30000 soldiers. Instead of that you run away and asking Yugo army for help. Even if we send you a help, army could not get there on time cause all roads are locked with civilians in run that you order. After Martić asked him what should he do cause Croatians forces coming, Milošević answered:"kill yourself". You know that this is true, this been played in Haggue and it is not some kind of secret. Everyone inerested can see this, and you still lying and accusing us. Ok, now fxxx off.
I am from Croatia and I have to say that you did a good job! Only thing is that area from Rijeka to Zadar and south of Middle Croatia are the original parts of Croatia.
Netko je spavao na satovima povijesti 😴😴😂.. Povijesne činjenice su dosta iskrivljene. Npr. Dubrovnik se prikazuje kao Mletački teritorij, Rijeka oduvijek talijanska.. Što nije točno.
Been able to watch and understand your video, because of the German subtitles. Your pronunciation of our Croatian cities, ignoring your French accent, is on point. 👌🏽 Good work.
Croatian Y-chronosome: 60% I2 (pre-balkanic) + 30% R1a (slavic) Serbian Y chromosome: 30% E1b1b (berber) + 30% J (turkish) How it comes? Probably because serbian grandmothers were gant-bngd by turkish, arab and african pashas 500 years long...
Dubrovnik was for example never a Croatian city in whole history. Until 1939, when it was added to administrative region Banovina Croatia, made by Serbian king in Kingdom of Yugoslavia. Dubrovnik was throughout history populated mostly by Roman (Italian population), and Serbian Catholics (later assimilated to Croats, during half of XIX century, when all Catholics of Balkans who spoke serbo-croatian language were declared as modern Croats - heavily supported by Vatican and Vienna).
The Mediterranean coast is a kind of gift that Croatia received !!!??? OMG , the Kingdom of Croatia was founded in that area 1400 years ago ! You have no idea who Slavs, Dalmatians and Italians are. I am a Slav, a Croat and a Dalmatian documented in the last 800 years ! To read that you have a hostile attitude towards Croatia and Croats! The neighboring country is called Bosnia and Herzegovina and it is the land of SERBS-CROATS-MUSLIM. That red is HERZEGOVINA.
Serbian Genes: E1b1b: 🇲🇦 80% 🇽🇰 40% 🇷🇸 30% J2: 🇹🇯 40% 🇹🇷 40% 🇷🇸 30% And servants still claim that they have nothing to do with turks and turks didnt bng them 500 years long hahahahaa
@@predraglackovic5001 and island just beside the Solin. All Croatians kings and later Hunarian-Croat kings took their crowns in dalmatian towns. Some examples: Nin,Biograd,Solin,Knin.
well, I hope you can explain to tourist who having a bath around Pag island, that that waters were full of dead bodies, because 2 concentration camps were held on Pag (Slana concentration camp, and Mejtana Concentration camp). This is great story for VICE news.
Dubrovnik est aussi la porte d’entrée vers le Monténégro, un pays qui développe sont tourisme en ce moment. Il possède une situation politique et historique très intéressante entretenant des liens avec l’Allemagne de longue date !
Je suis allé à Kotor au Monténégro c'est vraiment magnifique. Petite curiosité la Croatie n'a pas l'euro mais fait partie de L'UE alors que le Monténégro c'est l'inverse.
L’auteur ne parle que des autoroutes, jamais du réseau ferroviaire. C’est significatif de notre époque où le chemin de fer n’est plus mis en valeur (malgré les grandes déclarations politiques).
Zašto je Hrvatska deformirana, ?Zato šo je u tampon zoni i isti ok i zapad su je pokušali prosvojiti i jedno vrijeme su uspjeli Pa ne zaboravite da sve ovo područje bivše Jugoslavije , Rumunjske, Bugarske, Makedonije Grčke, Albanije, turske, Armenije , bliskog istoka, Arabije Egipta i Cijela Sjecerna Afrika , pa Španjolska, i portugal i cijela Itakijabilo Rimsko carstvo, kije se zbog nemorls i ludosti Rimskig careva raspalo. Neki narodi su uspjeli izbotiti samostalnos. I hrvatski kraljevi i knezovi su uspjeli, ali neprestsne pretenzije raznih naroda zgurale su hrvate i danas ih guraju u čošak. Ali zadnju rijječ ima Bog nad svim narodima i svi postojimo dok nam on dopusti, a onda nas zbog raznih i ludosti raznih lgažnih đomoljuba i čežnje za vlašću, izmišljaju move granice i nove pretenzije. Ponavljam zadnju riječ ima Bog . To je jasno, Trese nad, zalijeva vodom ne bi li se otrijeznili, ruši mitove i laži da nas prosvijetli, da smo samo u prolazu i da smo prah i pepeo, glineni lonci koji se lako slome. Shvatite svi vi veliki znalci povjesti i povesnih često lažnih činjenica, da već danas možete umrijeti. Pa svski dan zdravi i ljudi puni sebe umiru na razne načine. Puni mediji toga i nitko ne shvaća da je možda slijedeći na Redu. N Uz sva znanja svijeta , sve medije ništa od povijesti niste naučili, a kažu "Povijest je učiteljica života" , E pa onda prestanite uzimati što vam ne pripada i naučite da ratovi nisu ništa dobroga donijeli samo mržnju, zlo , strah i netoleranicu. Poštuj drugoga kao samog sebe(ako se uopće poštuješ), pa ćeš nositi mir i ljubav među ljude. Nitko se nije birao roditi i gdje i kako će se roditi. Rođeni smo sa svrhom da se međusobno ljubimo i pomažemo u dobru, a ne da činimo zlo jedni drugima.Hej vi umišljeni močnici svijeta, stanitena loptu i recite DOSTA ZLA idemo graditi mir, dati slobodu malim narodima i ne izmišljati nove narodnosti i nacije , a brisati postojeće i ne dati im disati. Hej Putine, Kime i ostali vlastodršci dosta vaše tirsnije ! Sutrs češ iti leš kao tisuče koje ste ubili svojom paklenom ideologiom. I zemlja će vas iz utrobe izbaciti , ma kako velike dpomenike imali. Preživljavaju, mali skromni spremni jedan druugome pomoći i podijeliti pola šnite kruha, bez obzira na vjeru i naciju. I ostaju dovijeka zapisani u knjizi života!! 💜💞💙i
Serbs 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 ☦ ☦ ☦ ☦ 500 years servian grandmothers enjoy with turkish/arab pashas and mongol horse riders... "All the most beautiful and suitable women, young women, and Serbian girls from the village had to come to her, and play and sing while playing the bagpipes and other music in a circle, and thus enjoy the Turkish life. , the Turks chose the best and most beautiful Serbian women whom they liked, and with them they lay, rolled, hugged and publicly shamed themselves in front of their fathers, brothers and husbands, with the unfortunate Serbian women fornicating in the middle in broad daylight - Such a terrible trann Turkey reigned over poor Serbia". Konstantin Nenadović, Kojekude Serbia, Vienna 1883.
Kurvatia ceased to exist in 1102 when Hungarian king slain crotian ruler, and all Croats kneel down and kiss a feet of Hungarian king (or not just feet, but....).......... until 1941, when Hitler created fist Croatian state.
@@stblaz7288 Well, you Croats thrown flowers on German SS thanks, singing songs, cheering...... so when you say "we all", who do you think of? You Nazis? lol
Mislili su neki da nas neče biti ,svoju radost nisu znali skriti.Tko na tvrdoj stini svoju povijest piše tom nemože nitko povijest da izbriše.Na kamenu tvrdom o tom slova pišu: OD STOLJEĆA SEDMOG TU HRVATI DIŠU!
Ou plutôt focaliser sur la situation de Bruxelles, et le fait que ce soit une agglomeration qui en fait traverse les frontières politiques (je pense à Waterloo, Dilbeek, Wemmel, RSG....etc.)
Bonsoir ! Pour ajouter au caractère ubuesque de la frontière bosnienne, tu aurais pu étudier la raison historique de cette frontière. 🙂 En effet : le port bosnien de Neum est peuplé à 80% de Croates et ça n’a rien d’un hasard. Cette incongruité remonte à 1699, date à laquelle la république de Raguse (aujourd’hui Dubrovnik) cède le port de Neum à l’empire Ottoman (alors suzerain de la Bosnie-Herzégovine) pour se protéger des ambitions de la république de Venise (qui possédait le Nord de la côte). Donc c’est une frontière tout à fait artificielle à laquelle la Bosnie s’accroche dur comme fer alors que le port de Neum ne lui donne même pas accès aux eaux internationales… Bref
Je trouve que les dégats géo-politiques causés par les Ottomans ne vont pas s'arranger avec des populations aussi perdues dans une floue idéntité réligieuse. La Yougoslavie était éssentiellement faible précisement par sa diversité culturelle..Sans Tito, les musulmans salafistes installés dans l'Albanie ont pu faire leur guèrre civile préparée facilement contre les serbes, les défénseurs de "l'union slave du süd".
@@Michael-h1r4h Serbian concentration camp for children: - Rakovica manastir near belgrade Serbian rp camp for children during the 1990s: - Omarska camp - Foca - Visegrad - Prijedor - Kozarac
Regarding the issue of emigration, it's worth noting that while the emigration rate is high in poorer EU member states, these same states benefit enormously from being part of the Union in many ways, particularly economic development. What we have seen is there is an immediate flow of emigration (often paired with high amounts of remittances), then structural/development funds, investment, etc. flow into the poor new members, which later on (once reaching a certain level of development) attract people who emigrated to return to the country. Despite some difficulties in this process, such as intermediate brain drain, these countries are overall many orders of magnitude better off in the EU. This is the basis for the the aspirations of these countries' nations to accede after all.
Très bon réportage. Le pont pour aller à Dubrobnik m'a surpris vu le sujet de la frontière entre deux anciens pays de la Yougoslavie. La guèrre organisée depuis le Royaume-Uni et l'OTAN a fait une grosse casse sociale entre ce deux pays Croatie et Bosnie-Herzegovina autrefois, unis.
Odgovor je vrlo jednostavan i logičan, Hrvatima je kroz povijest na različite i vrlo kreativne načine kraden njihov teritorij ( BiH, Vojvodina, Boka Kotorska).
Croatia get Dalmatia as a gift??? From who'?? In fact first Croatian medieval state is formed in Dalmatia... Croatia fought with Ottomans for 500 years and that is why borders are like that...
Mdr, origine Croate, jamais appris la langue malheureusement, mais j'ai toujours vu ce pont depuis tout petit a la plage juste à coté lors de nos vacances, me demandant pourquoi ça prenait autant de temps ! Update : j'y suis actuellement, j'ai pu voir et même touché le pont par au-dessus et en dessous x) Le coin a l'air sympa pour faire du vélo, dommage que j'ai pas le mien de route sous la main, par contre depuis la plage de Komarna, j'ai nagé jusqu'aux piliers, ça s'adapte vite là-dessous, y a déjà des moules et autres coquillages partout sur la partie immergée ! xD
Tu as quel âge?? Le projet de pont a été d'abord initié en 2007 par les autorités croates avant d'être interrompu en 2012 en raison de la crise économique. En 2015, le premier ministre croate Zoran Milanovic annonce que le projet est relancé. Cependant, le projet suscite l'opposition des autorités bosniennes, qui craignent que le pont gêne ou empêche le passage de navires à fort tonnage vers le port de Neum, un argument réfuté par le gouvernement croate qui assure que les caractéristiques techniques du pont sont faites de façon à permettre le passage de tout navire. Le gouvernement bosnien affirme, de position constante, que la construction du pont n'est pas possible tant que les deux pays n'ont pas réglé la question de façon bilatérale. La Bosnie-Herzégovine en a informé la Commission européenne dans une lettre en septembre 2017. En juin 2017, malgré la controverse sur le sujet, la Commission européenne annonce qu'elle financera le pont de Pelješac à hauteur de 85 % de son coût. En janvier 2018, la présidente croate Kolinda Grabar-Kitarovic réaffirme que le pont présente une grande importance pour la Croatie et qu'il n'est pas dirigé contre les intérêts de la Bosnie-Herzégovine. Le contrat pour la construction du pont est signé en avril 2018 entre le gouvernement croate et le consortium chinois China Road and Bridge Corporation . En réponse, le président du conseil des ministres de Bosnie-Herzégovine, Denis Zvizdic, annonce qu'il enverra une nouvelle lettre aux autorités européennes pour tenter d'empêcher la construction du pont. Le Premier ministre croate Andrej Plenkovic a assisté le 29 juillet 2021 à l'inauguration du pont. l'ouverture à la circulation devrait se faire le 26 juillet 2022 Merci Wikpedia!!!
@@david-alexandredarchambaul6705 21ans ^^ Je me rappel évidement pas de tout mes voyages en croatie etant assez nombreux et au debut trop jeune, mais en tout cas ça correspond.
The border was called Craina (Kraina) defended by Serbs against the Turks to not expand no thurther it was a Serbian border financed by Austrohangerian
De part et d autres c est peuples de slaves catholiques qu on a assimilés aux croates par la suite puisque sans différences ethniques la religion a servi de différenciation. Les slaves catholiques se sont définis comme croates surtout au XXeme siècle dans cette zone du sud et Tito à créé la nationalité "bosniaque" en partant des Serbes islamisés de Bosnie et du Sandjak serbe à côté
Serbian war crimes during the 90s on croatian bosnian and Albanian children and women: Vukovar massacre, Slavonski Brod, Dubrovnik, Bucin, Osijek, Karlovac, Kuljani, Dalj, Petrinja, Erdut Serbian war crimes in Bosnia (where genocidal Republic of Srpska was created): Bijeljina, Foca ethnic cleansing, Visegrad, Omarska concentration camp, Prijedor concentration camp, Bombing Sarajevo, Kozarac concentration camps, Jajce ethnic cleansing, Zvornik etc. Operation Koridor (200´000 croatian and bosnian civilians were displaced an kiled) etc. and of course Srebrenica (biggest massacre in Europe after WW2 done by servants)
Austro-Hungarian Vice-Marshal Gherter, after the First World War, wrote about the Croats: "I have never seen in my life, nor heard of beasts in human form like Croatian soldiers. Although they fought with us and primarily served for intimidation and repression of the people, I as a person am ashamed of what they stood in our ranks. In the actual battle, they would leave their positions, while very skillfully avoided the opposing army and always moved towards the deserters who were consisted of bare-handed people, women and children. When they sometimes arrived, they did horrors that made our hair stand on end. They are dirt to the world and European culture."
@@nekoime8872 1172 writes Helmold von Bosau from Lübeck after his trip through the Balkans: "...they are called Servi, sons of the devil, without the yoke of God, ministers of all fith, who live in their places in a bestly manner, wilder than animals." Helmoldi Presbyteri Chronica slavorum; In: Monumenta Germanica Historica, Scriptorum tomus XXI, Hannoverae MDCCCLXVIII
J’aime bien le partie pris du bon sens à la fin de ta vidéo, on construit un pont illégitime à cause d’une raison illégitime, les frontières sont le bandeau de notre égoïsme, on nous a donné une mémoire pour ce rappelé que l’être humain depuis son existence n’aime pas son voisin
Le pont sert a ne pas passer justement la douane, donc très pratique pour les croates et pour les touristes qui vienne bien évidemment Donc c'est que du plus ce pont !
Je vois pas en quoi ce pont est illégitime. La Croatie n’a pas construit au dessus des zone maritimes bosnienne. Le pont est entièrement en Croatie et ne touche en aucun cas la Bosnie. La Croatie est un pays souverain, ils ont le droit de construire ce qu’ils veulent, où il le veulent. Je vois pas pourquoi ils écouteraient les caprices du voisin… La seule raison pour laquelle le pont dérange les bosnien c’est que ca les arrange de récupérer un peu d’argent des touristes qui sont forcés de passer par la Bosnie.
@@MHL_CCR The money from pass-through is insignificant, Neum lives on cheap mass tourism bookings. The bridge bothers the bosnian unitarists who believe they would one day push the Bosnian Croats aside and build a freight port there to trade with islamic countries. But the bay is too shallow for that anyway.
It's all simplified, but ok. I still can see that there can't be a single video or anything about Croatia without mythomaniac Serb nationalists coming to tell us the "truth". Few years ago, after WC18 actuall Pope said that Croatia is a small country, but Croats are among greatest european nations. Anyone think he said that without any reason, just cause he like us? Or maybe he have access to info and just maybe know something more than average person? Croatia is a young country, but Croats are here long time ago. It's not a myth that Croats were among the best fighters in Europe, it's the truth. I already wrote about Antemurale Christianitatis, but Croats were among the best soldiers in 30years war too. Many German and Swedish sources claim this statement. Croatian light cavalry were asked for help cause Croats forged their millitary skills in wars against Ottomans and by some sources were "kings of war improvization". Some sources saying that Croats killed Swedish King Gustaf II. Adolf. He states: "Germans are slow cause of heavy armor, Poles always looking what to steal, Moldovs don't want to go far from home for a fight and Vlachs are easy to buy for a little money. But Croats, they attack in groups and they never stop....Even devil himself can't escape them on battlefield...". Germans claim that only Croats cavalry could get to Gustav II. and killed him and some sources says that Swedish families of that time scared children with Croats. Also Croats were first who entered Magdeburg after swiming over river with horses, but there they made a lot of atrocities. In millitary-historical museum in Vienna stands statue of Croatian cavalry from 1620y. Also neck tie came from that time, krabat-krabaten-kravata-croata. There is a lot of historical facts about Croats that westerns mostly just don't know. For example, in center of Budapest stands statue of Myklos Zrinsky. Most of Hungarians thinks that he was Hungar. I asume that tourists think so too when they came to Budapest and ask locals who is he. But truth is that his real name is Nikola Šubić Zrinski and he was famous croatian mayor in Hungaro-croatian army. He fought great battle of Sziged with mostly Croat soldiers army and was killed there. There is still few Zrinski surname families in Croatia today. Some says that Napoleon stated:"give me 10000 Croats and i will conquere Europe, give me 100000 of them and i will conquere the world", but there is no science proof of such statement. I think of that as simple as this is area that always been on the edge of conflict, with lot of different religion and etnicities and always been point of interest for everyone. So people just learn to live with it. Our biggest shame in history are Ustaše and what they did. That's Serbian favorite topic, always sticked to it when talking about Croats whitout mention of facts that many Croats were partisans, that first partisan movement in Europe was formed in forest Brezovica near Sisak, of croatian men and one serbian women, Nada Dimić. Even Tito was Croat. Sadly but modern Serbia is nothing but authocracy state with goverment composed of same people who started all 90's wars and lost all of them. They need to clean their counsions, that's why they will always lie about Croatia, spit on us and try to represent us as Ustaše. Historicly Serbia was made of old Raška which was part of Cro kingdom before church divide. Nemanjići were catholics who returned crown back to Pope and turn orthodox. That's how Serbia was born. Only orthodox country in Europe that is not originally orthodox cause they were catholics first. That's in short. Many Serbian scientists and historyografs confirm that Serbs came from Croats and was Croats, but all of them are pushed aside and probably labeled as traitors in today Serbia, Jovanka Kalić, Sima Ćirković, Relja Novaković... all Serbs. Serbs have historical and cultural hole of 500y under Ottomans, without mention of Serbs and Serbia so they keep stealing from others, mostly Croats to fill that hole. They always seated on "two chairs", as it was back in history, same is today and will always be. They fought Turks on one time and on the other fought with them against christians. Don't ever compare Croats to Serbs, never. Ustaše was formed because of serbian unitaristic politics and dictature. Serbs killed Croatian politican Stjepan Radić in parliament. Serbs killed only normal Serbian politician since 90's Zoran Đinđić. They claiming that we steal language from them, but truth is that modern serbo-croatian language is actually old croatian language modernized by Serbian linguistic Vuk Karadžić. Modern Serbian is far from slav language, it's mix of turk-bulgar-croatian and even english language, while modern croatian is still dominant slav language. There's a lot of examples for this. And then they saying that we steal their language and fact is that they didn't had one and didn't know how to preserve one we gave em. Serbo. Croats Januar. Siječanj Februar. Veljača.... so on Fudbal. Nogomet Šargarepa. Mrkva Paradajz. Rajčica I think all Slavs can understand croatian as slavenic language while Serbian seems more like Turk-English?? Serbians were most uneducated nation in ex Yu, 70%,while Cro and Slo were on 15%. Serbians were among last European nations with surnames(cca 150y old) , while Croatians had them long time before. They took a lot of Cro surnames, but today they claims that all of them are originally Serbian. Serbia started all wars in 90's,lost all of them and today they want to make themselves a victims. Croatians never had problems with any southslav nation except Serbia while Serbia had problems with everyone, even Montenegro - serbian Sparta. Croatia were always influenced by west and Serbia by east. That's the biggest difference and source of all problems and reason why Yugoslavia couldn't stand as country.
So you are writing new history, your Pavelic says you Croats are Gotts ,so how come you think different, by the way today's Croats are mostly Austro-Hungarian descendants ,kao I vas Franjo TUDJIMAN, TUDJI
Croatia ( then part of Hungary & later Austria ) was invaded by the Ottoman Turkish Empire and after about 200 years of warfare the "Treaty of Karlowitz" of 1699 AD was signed after the Great Turkish war. After 1945 the Yugoslav communist party decided to use Croatia war borders of 1699 AD as the basis of the Socialist Republic of Croatia ( some parts of Croatia ( & Dalmatia) from 1699 AD were annexed by Serbia and Montenegro after 1945). After the fall of Yugoslavia the internal Yugoslav republic borders become the international borders.
Super vidéo !! Je suis allée en Croatie il y a un an et nous n'avons pas pu rejoindre Dubrovnik pour cause de passage de douanes (avec le covid, pas non valide, nécessité de tests)... Ça aide a comprendre le pourquoi du comment !
About Serbian women, lets say for the past that Turkish pashas aswell as byzantines, Avar, Bulgarian and Mongol horse riders had fun with them...
Thats why servants have large e1b1b (berber and j (anatolian) genes because servian girls enjoyed with everyone...
Well, as a Croat, a product of 900-year-long Gang Bang....you should really be quiet about DNA :) :) lol
@@petarn2204 croats are pure dinaric and slav while servants are a mix of avar, mongol, turk, kurd, arab, chechen, berber, somali, roma&sinti etc.
croats look all german and russian while every servant look indian and arab
Upravu si.Hrvati su čisti dinarski Srbi.
Dalmatia is s historical region of croatia and not a "gift" it was conquered by venice once yes but the population spoked always croatian and italian, also in the croatian kingdom in 925 dalmatia was a part of it and later the union with hungary too in 1848 dalmatia was connected with the croatian slavonian kingdom. And there was a letter in 1821 that was.m counting all ethnic groups in dalmatia snd croatians where the largest ethnic group in that region.
Bro, This video was made by a french dude with limited access to information due to his languace and by the fact French people aren't really interested in other nations but theirs! Even less when its past germany to the east
@@cristianbalan518 think again, i am french and i can say you that we are really interested in other countries (this is why this cannel exists :))
@@ranskaman-elakoonsuomi Bro I live in France too and I know you cant search stuff in other languages like for example Croatian for your videos. I mean, you've just been corrected by this man and knew that too since I'm eastern European.
Its not your fault for being from a place where your people are purposely more interested in your own region. I mean I would have known about some French history facts that you know
Dalmatia has a very diverse history. The name itself comes from the Dalmatae, an Illyrian tribe which was conquered by the Roman Republic, which evolved into the Roman Empire, it was again taken over by Odoacer´s Kingdom of Italy, then conquered by the Ostrogothic Kingdom ruled by Theoderic the Great, the Eastern Roman Empire, Kingdom of Croatia, Kingdom of Hungary, Kingdom of Bosnia (parts of it for a short period), Republic of Venice which Split it with the Ottoman Empire and the Republic of Ragusa / Dubrovnik, then the French Empire´s Illyrian provinces, Empire of Austria, Austria-Hungary, Kingdom of Yugoslavia, Fascist Italy, Socialist Yugoslavia and finally the modern Republic of Croatia. Few regions in the world have changed hands as often as Dalmatia and throughout a history spanning 2500 years.
@@cristianbalan518 Ridiculous French bashing
serbs cleansed 200´000 croats and other non-serbs (czechs, slovaks, hungarians, germans etc.) from croatia
serbs cleansed 200´000 bosnians and croats in bosnia and created the "republika srpska"
serbs cleansed over 200´000 albanians and other non-serbs from republik of kosovo (who does not belong to serbia btw)
You are fool of sh....😊
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La Croatie est un pays magnifique. Dubrovnic est une ville à voir. Merci pour cette riche vidéo.
Oui mais envahi de touristes c'est un cauchemar malheureusement, il y a même une circulation alternée piétonne dans certaines rues... Il faut vraiment y aller hors saison...
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Dubrovnik was never Croatia.
@@aleksandarmarinkovic6986 hahaha servine turski 😂😂😂
@@aleksandarmarinkovic6986 Ça l'est maintenant.
Nicely explained video!!! Thanks a lot for the English subtitles.
Hrvatska je moja omiljena slavenska zemlja, veliki pozdravi iz Nizozemske 💖🇳🇱🤝🇭🇷💖
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@@ivicazubcic8718 Skoro uvj'ek ću gledati videozapise o Hrvatskoj, samo ja volim takve informacije o drugim zemljama. Hrvatska posebno. 🤭
You may correct me! :D
katolicki turci
To je sigurno zbog zastave, poluotoka i SP 1998. 😁
About Serbian women:
"All the most beautiful and suitable women, young women, and Serbian girls from the village had to come to her, and play and sing while playing the bagpipes and other music in a circle, and thus enjoy the Turkish life. , the Turks chose the best and most beautiful Serbian women whom they liked, and with them they lay, rolled, hugged and publicly shamed themselves in front of their fathers, brothers and husbands, with the unfortunate Serbian women fornicating in the middle in broad daylight - Such a terrible trann Turkey reigned over poor Serbia". Konstantin Nenadović, Kojekude Serbia, Vienna 1883.
A part of Christian Church propaganda in XIX century, trying to gain rage against Ottoman Empire..... similar thing was done by Bulgarians, Greeks, and other Christian people in Ottoman empire. There is not a single trace of those kind of propaganda in previous period, in centuries predating revolutions of XIX century :)
But Croats in Croatia were 200 years under Turks....and Croats in Bosnia were, 550 years under Turks......so, yeah :) Nothing serious, because Croats in global were 900+ years under different foreign occupiers and soldier.... genetic mix of everything :)
@@nekoime8872 bla bla bla there is no conspiracy against serbs...serbs were turkish vazalls, serbs are a product of turkish, arab, kurd, and african gang-bg 500 years and also about mongol, avar, bulgarian and byzantine before that
Dalmatia wasn't a gift, the "Slavs" you mention living there were Croats and they were living there since 7th century. In fact, Dalmatia is where original medieval Croatia was located and it was THE Croatia until Venetians and Ottomans conquered it and what was left of Croatia was only around Zagreb and it elected Habsburgs as kings to save Croatia from Ottoman conquest. Venetians then took the coast from Ottomans, and Dalmatia was merely returned to Croatia after centuries of separation. Italians were only majority in several cities and their population is always overstated because of their historic territorial pretentions, specially under fascists.
Entry of Croatia to Schengen will not accelerate emigration because Schengen is irrelevant in that respect. Schengen only allows one to cross the border without showing the ID. I doesn't make emigration easier, it only makes it you don't have to wait in line at the border crossing. Nothing else. How is this so hard to understand to Europeans? It just removes border crossings. Ease of moving, working and living elsewhere in the EU is part of just being in EU. Schengen does not affect it at all.
Dubrovnik wasn't part of Venice for centuries by the time they gave Neum to Ottomans. It is not typically Venetian city, it's entire history is based on opposition to Venice. It's wealth came from being the main trade port between Balkans and Mediterranean, so it was very focused on inland trade and had trade colonies even on the Danube in Ilok, easternmost town in Croatia. It just wasn't expansionist.
One alternative to the bridge was building a closed motorway behind Neum, but the problem isn't just that Bosnia is an independent state that is in the way, it's the nature of Bosnian politics. A country constantly on the edge of civil war with 3 nations who can't agree on even what is the colour of clear sky at noon. It is near impossible to agree anything with them and political instability makes any investment risky. It was safer to avoid them.
Ah, quindi i dalmati sarebbero stati croati. Ma allora perché parlavano neolatino e un neolatino diverso dal veneziano? Lo storico nazionalista croato non lo sa spiegare. Anche perché un nazionalista non può essere storico :) Che i croati siano penetrati verso il mare presto è vero, ma lo hanno fatto da invasori. Non ci sono sempre stati. Poi, i magiari e successivamente gli austriaci li hanno utilizzati in funzione anti italiana (visto che i dalmati neolatini preferivano aderire alla cultura veneto-italiana e creavano problemi).
Latinske Dalmatince ranog srednjeg vijeka nisam ni spominjao jer nisu ni spomenuti u videu ni relevantni. Taj narod se asimilirao u Hrvate i Venecijance i nestao kao zaseban identitet prije modernog doba.
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 your ancestors are the biggest invaders in Europe, including the region you're talking about so what's your point?
@@Aru233 Na ovim podrućjima teško je poistovjećivati jezik i etnicitet i ne upasti u nacionalistićke diskurse.
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 Cope
Very bad video. Author doesn't have basic knowledge about Croatia. Historical Croatia was not Upper Croatia around Zagreb. That was medieval Slavonia. Historical Croatia till 1500s was today west and central Dalmatia, western Herzegovina and Lika. Very bad job. 👎👎👎
Moja, Naša Htvatska je lijepa, prelijepa. Prirodne ljepote, nacionalni parkovi, veći i manji gradovi, more, otoci, rijeke, jezera, gorski i nizinski krajevi, dvorci... Dobrodošli svi dobri ljudi ! 🇭🇷 u ❤️ !
Ne bih iso i da mi plate
Bosnia and Herzegovina did everything to prevent the bridge. Croats and Serbs were in favor of construction, and your Muslims were against it. It's true . I note that Croats and Serbs are Christians and constitutive people in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Dubrovnik was a subject of Venice for a very short time, it was much longer under the Byzantium, from 1358 it was de fecto independent after Hungarian king granted them autonomy. It was an independent state till 1808. when marshall Auguste Marmont arrived with the French army (450 years of independence).
Make more research when you try to be specific.
When You say Vizantium, You mean Lands of Serbs and Seaside, cause Dubrovnik was in tax paying system of Serbian kingdom, if you don't believe ask fratrs in Santo Nicollo church in Barri Italia, all the gold and silver around church and its finances for long time were provided by serbian Nemanjich dinasty, from the tax Dubrovnik was paying to them FULL STOP!
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No I don't mean that, Serbs didn't even exist then
@@andrijabarbaric3185 Ma važi, što je babi milo to joj se i snilo, mislim da za diskusije ovog tipa treba malo prelistati istoriju, ali ne hrvatsku verziju, koja je toliko tačna da predstavlja Jasenovac kao letnji kamp u kome su ljudi odmarali, ili se edukuj ili se ne blamiraj, i naravno tu su i fratri koji ponosno ističu da je kivot i crkva Svetog Nikole u Bariju okovana u zlatu i srebru koje je bilo porez od Dubrovnika srpskoj državi, dakle da li ti to impliciraš da jedan fratar laže? Ili da možda ne zna ko su bili ktitori njegovog hrama?
@@andrijabarbaric3185 rece neko ko ima IC u prezimenu
I ko se zove ANDRIJA
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@@andrijabarbaric3185 Nemoj tako pa Srbi su nastali prije ameba, prvo Srbi pa amebe pa onda sve ostalo. Barem prema Svetosavskoj propgandi.
To add, Croatia wasn't always this shape. Back in midevil times modern day Bosnia and Herzegovina was mostly Croatian all the way until the Ottomans came. Then Croats emigrated and the demographics changed through wars to todays borders.
No, il was croatia only during the tomislav reign, after the short croatian indépendance croatia felt under domination of hungary.
Et the bosnia and Herzégovine was part of zahumlje, raska wich Will take name of serbia later
@@vladdracula5962 What about Michael Kresimir II, Stephan Drzislav, Peter Kresimir IV or Dmitar Zvonimir realm? They were governing the skies?
@@MantraX049 this is what i said, an independence during the Tomislav familly reign, like 155-170 years, including the Kingston who was ban of hungarian krone (925-1100)
The historical croatia was the lanws between Rijeka to Slavonija and from Velebit and from Sisak to prekmurije, the other lands White extensions conquiered on byzantine empire or serbian kingdom or vénitien possessions etc etc...
@@vladdracula5962 If you don't have anything smart to write, than better write nothing. In that way, I would at least wonder, if you by any chance have some knowledge.
Belle vidéo comme d'habitude ! Une vidéo sur Saint Marin serait super.
Le Chili de l'Europe
Funny you say that, the current president of Chile is of Croatian ancestry 😄
Chile of Europe is mostly Italy, Greece, Spain or Portugal than Croatia.
You used word "gift" for Dalmatia (3.35)? Ethnically, the most homogenous Croatian region (at least in last six or seven centuries) and place where was born both Croatian Kingdom in X. century and Croatian secular litterature in XV. century. Pretty colonial narrativ for someone so well informed. Please, find what your genial compatriot Fernand Braudel wrote about Dalmatia and Dalmatian cities in his masterpiece about Mediterranean and the Mediterranean world..
Dalmatia immediately after WWii until the appearance of mass tourism and Dalmatia today. Differences
Just mention Corisca, Vendee and Occitaine and see how the word 'girft' gets forgotten. Bullshit video.
Roma ( Vatican) propaganda. Croats are same a Serbs but under Roma- Wien politic and religion.
@@stojandobrocelic1315 Don't listen to this nonsense.
Dalmatia was definitely never homogeneous area, having in mind a large population of Orthodox Serbs (before genocide in ww2), Catholic Serbs, and Roman population.
Nice video, just a few notes :)
- Neum was given by Republic of Ragusa to Ottomans to prevent having a land border with Venice after Ottomans were defeated in 1699, since Dubrovnik was an Ottoman ally and profited from trade with Islamic world and felt less threatened by Ottomans than by Venice which wanted to be the sole power in this area, so basically they wanted to be landlocked at that point in history, but it obviously created new problems in a new political landscape after both maritime republics were gone
- Dalmatia doesn't border Istria, there is a region called Croatian Littoral between, it's roughly the coast of Primorje-Gorski kotar and Lika-Senj counties, and it can also be considered a part of central Croatia, it historically remained a part of Croatian Kingdom througout the centuries of Habsburg rule
Ragusea didnt create new problems since ragusea left the tip of the peninsula in neum in its posession so that ottomans nor bosnia cant expand diplomatically into sea
Part of bosnian kingdom takođe jaraniko
Dubrovnik was not an ally of ottomans Dubrovnik was just paying them to not attack them.
Republic of Ragusa has nothing to do with Croatia, until late XIX century. Ragusa/ Dubrovnik became part of Croatia only in 1939.
@@petarn2204 Who said anything about that? The point was the shape of modern borders, they are what they are at the moment because of what at that moment sovereign Republic of Ragusa conceded to the Ottoman Empire fearing the possibility of invasion from the territory of Venetian Dalmatia (which also wasn't part of Croatia at that moment)
Thank you for your video. You understood correctly that the shape of today's Croatia is odd.
There are three points, I would like to highlight:
1. The share of tourism in the Croatian GDP, even by very generous measurements of the Croatian Ministry of Tourism - which encompasses all indirect effects too - exceeded at no time 19.6% of the GDP.
2. Croatia did not get a "gift" with Dalmatia being a part of it. Dalmatia is the cradle of Croatia's statehood. That's the territory were Croatian kings were crowned and where historically was the seat of the "Primas Croatiae". I think, historical sources are very rich about this and there is no need to elaborate further.
3. The historical reasons for the shape of today's Croatia:
Basically, the borders to Slovenia and Hungary as well as Serbia run along the ethnic line of divisions. The borders with Slovenia and Hungary, with some minor exceptions at times, are roughly thousand years old and go along to a good part with natural obstacles such as the rivers Mur, Drava and Danube (with today's Serbia) in the north or Sutla and Kupa in the west.
However, the borders with Bosnia and Herzegovina are a legacy of the centuries long Ottoman conquests. During the Turco-Croatian wars, the Kingdom of Croatia (at that time Croatian kings belonged first to the Anjou and from the 16th century to the Habsburg dynasties) lost territories to the Ottomans.
The peace treaties in the early 18th century between the Catholic powers of the Habsburg Empire and the Republic of Venice on one side and the Sublime Porte on the other, have cemented Croatia's borders there until the end of the Great War.
Why was Croatia under the Habsburg king not able to reclaim lost Croatian lands after the withdrawal of Ottoman forces from the provinces of Herzegovina, Bosnia and the Sanjak of Novi Pazar?
After all, as a consequence of the Russo-Turkish War of 1877/78 the situation looked favourable for the Habsburgs to kick out the Ottomans from the historical lands of the Kingdom of Croatia, whose rightful rulers they have been continuously since 1527.
At the Congress of Berlin in 1878 the Habsburgs obtained the right to administer the provinces of Bosnia and Herzegovina and to man a garrison in the Sanjak of Novi Pazar, while those provinces remained formally Ottoman.
This, and the Hungarian ambitions to have the main say in the new provinces, were the main reason why a territorial reorganisation was not envisaged.
Croatian demands to unite those provinces with Croatia in spite of a strengthened Russian influence in the Balkan peninsula seemed not advisable at the time, although the historical Croatian claim was considered to be valid. Instead, the Habsburgs decided to disestablish the Croatian and the Slavonian Military Frontier and to reunite those lands with the Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia.
During the Ottoman rule the ethnic structure of Bosnia and Herzegovina underwent considerable changes. Croats sought refuge in the non-occupied parts of Croatia, and survived the Ottoman expansion in greater numbers only in Central Bosnia and Western Herzegovina. The Serbs, who formerly mainly existed in the eastern and southern parts of the two provinces migrated to western and northern Bosnia.
However, a third distinctive group came into being. During the Turkish occupation a considerable part of Croats and Serbs converted to Islam and became this, what at the end of the 20th century would evolve into a Bosniak ethnicity.
The Bosnian Serb assassination of Franz Ferdinand, the heir presumptive to the throne of Austria-Hungary ignited the Great War and meant the end of the Habsburgs as a great European dynasty.
In the interwar period the provinces of Bosnia and Herzegovina were first reorganised in the new South Slavic state without an attempt to satisfy the national aspirations.
But in the face of the threat of Hitler's new European world order, an attempt to solve the Croatian question was contemplated, resulting in a new territorial organisation which meant that the lands with a Croatian majority were largely integrated into the autonomous province of Banovina of Croatia.
In Hitler's new European order, all of former Bosnia and Herzegovina was allotted to the war-time creation of the Independent State of Croatia.
After 1945, the Yugoslav communists decided simply to re-enact the Habsburg protectorate of Bosnia and Herzegovina as an administrative unit in the same way like the other socialist republics. The national identities were thought to be of subordinate importance for the politically conscious in a social-class based system.
When Yugoslavia collapsed, Bosnia and Herzegovina became the battle ground of three national aspirations, each of them fighting - at times - against each other.
The war ended inconclusive, with no nation satisfied with its outcome. The Dayton/Paris peace treaty established a de facto international protectorate, in nature even more complicated and experimental than the Habsburg administration, solving nothing, just freezing a conflict and leaving it to brew into the next war.
But if you are interested to know where the majority of Croats (or Serbs or Bosniaks) live in Bosnia and Herzegovina today, just find a map from the end of 1995 with the areas of control between Croatian, Serbian and Muslim forces after the signing of the Dayton/Paris Accords.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge of Croatian history. I have learnt a lot.
You seem to be quite pessimistic as to the future. I have the impression that you fear that war will break out again sooner or later. With Croatia already in the E.U. and with the prospect of Serbia and Bosnia joining them in the years to come, economic and cultural exchanges may eventually increase and, with goodwill on the 3 sides, peace may last. What does any of the three countries have to gain from war?
Obviously, the wounds of war take a long time to heal and I understand that hatred is still brewing, with ultra-nationalists, particularly in Serbia, adding fuel to the fire. But as EU member states have lived in peace so far, I hope and I believe that common sense will prevail.
@@paulsec8852 there will be no war in Balkan anymore. To talk about the possibility of war, you have to understand the circumstances the war took place first. Croatia is now part of NATO, have its's own military, it is internationally recognized which wasn't a case in 1991. Serbia (just as BiH) is also internationally recognized which means that other countries can also define its teritory just as what is not serbian teritory. Even if you look the criminal rate in these countries, you would find that it is pretty low. Only country with possibility of devoping some nationalistic tensions is BiH because it is multinacional but I strongly belive and know that there is not possible for war to be developed. Any war, of any kind, would destabilize economic situation and dispersed investments in all region, in which demographic and economic situation already ain't so pretty. And politicians with hands in power understand that.
Most of young people in our countries dgaf about nationalism anymore, only patriotism (like when our footbal represetation plays) and are proud to be what they are (or not haha). Also, many people living abroad calls anyone which language thay can understand "our" or "Balkan". In short - NO, there won't be wars in Balkan anymore.
Excellent
You explained well our circumstances through history and how we were treated unfairly. We have a right to our lost lands and we must never forget that. When an opportunity comes we need to take it and fulfill our one thousand year dream of full autonomy over all our lands.
@ידע הוא כוח i would not put my money on that, they say that the balkans is a barrel of gunpowder that explodes every 50 years or so, and so far theat has proven to be more or less right
C'est assez erroné, il aurait fallu faire plus de recherches pour cette vidéo :
La Dalmatie n'est pas simplement un cadeau offert à la Croatie.
Cette région fait partie du monde croate depuis des siècles et était peuplée aussi bien de croates/dalmates que d'italiens. Elle a changé de mains plusieurs fois au cours de l'Histoire et la République de Venise était une puissance parmi d'autres.
La vraie raison de la forme étrange du pays est la conquête par l'empire Ottoman d'une partie de la Croatie. C'est à ça qu'on doit la frontière avec la Bosnie d'aujourd'hui. D'ailleurs, on trouve encore maintenant des zones majoritairement peuplées de croates en Bosnie, même si après la conquête ottomane une majorité de croates a émigré vers la Croatie actuelle.
Il n´a jamais dit "c´est un cadeau". Il a dit "c´est une sorte de cadeau". La vidéo dure 11 min c´est tout il faut faire vite.
There are about 500 000 Croats in Bosnia and Herzegovina
Well, you Croats thrown flowers on German SS thanks, singing songs, cheering...... so when you say "we all", who do you think of? You Nazis? lol
Sad truth..... Croatia is going through increase of Nazism, according to DeutscheWelle reports. Huge problem for a country which perpetrated such terrible genocide.
@@filip_7241 Well, you Croats thrown flowers on German SS thanks, singing songs, cheering...... so when you say "we all", who do you think of?
Merci beaucoup c'est l'une des vidéos les plus intéressante de cette chaine !
servian girls have a lot of fun with turkish, albanian, arab, kurd, chechen and african pashas aswell as with bulganian and mongol horse riders and lets not forget the eastern romans who gave you the name SERB:
De administrado imperio:
"Serb" in the language of the Byzantines is a word that means "slaves", and in that language the word "serbula" usually means the shoes of slaves, and the word "tzerboulianous" means those who wear cheap, poor shoes. Serbs got that name because they became slaves of the Byzantine emperor. Well, after some time, those same Serbs decided to go to their own houses (return), and the emperor let them go.
Well, as A Croat you can always search your DNA in Istanbul, Budapest, Vienna, Venice...
1000 years under foreign soldier....it is like DNA genes coming from a bowl of spaghetti. 🤫🤫
Des paysages magnifiques en Croatie.
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You hit the jackpot when you made connection betwean former Austrian and turkish boarder, but you failed to mention that it had normal shape prior to that in medieval times when it was independent kingdom with most of Bosnia and Herzegovina inside. And the fact that turks were there is the reason that those are now separate states. Quite a crucial part. And that Croatia got Dalmatia and Ragusa as a gift? Far fetched, it is way mor logicaly explained with what I just wrote up there.
b&h wasn't 'inside' croatia for any significant period of time lmfao. both croatia was a part of the bosnian medieval kingdom and bosnia a part of the croatian/croato-hungarian kingdom for short periods as these kingdoms shrunk and expanded. normal thing that happenned between bordering countries, especially with overlapping noble families that wouldn't care for national identity or borders over power, even if they lived in times where national identity was remotely relevant. such was the case all over europe.
arrival of turks had as much of an impact on bosnian borders/national identity only because there was already a distinct situation in bosnia before their arrival, religiously, geographically, politically, making the population more likely to accept islam than other areas that saw long-term occupation without nearly as much conversion.
@@vladimir-qx9sd "making the population more likely to accept islam"
I suggest you look up the Ottoman Turkish "Devshirme" policy translated as "child levy" or "blood tax". The Ottoman Turks took small Christian children away from their parents and converted them. This practice went on for centuries in Bosnia.
@@northernstar4811 everyone in the balkans knows about devshirme but it's irrelevant to my point. more people converted to islam in b&h than in other neighboring areas despite devshirme being practiced in all of those areas because of the unique circumstances in b&h that made it a distinct region well before the ottoman conquest
@@vladimir-qx9sd "more people converted to islam in b&h than in other neighboring areas"
The muslim population in Greece was 50% in the 19th century. So Greece had a bigger muslim population than Bosnia then.
Bosnia was still a majority Christian country into the 18th century.
Even Sarajevo had a big Roman Catholic population until Prince Eugene of Savoy (Prinz Eugen) burnt it down in 1697 AD, during his great raid into Bosnia.
About 40,000 Catholics left Sarajevo & the surrounding area as they feared Ottoman Turkish revenge and went with Prince Eugene back into Croatia.
@@northernstar4811 'neighboring areas' as in its closest neigbors; comparison with other territories is irrelevant to my point which was that b&h, even before the ottoman arrival, had circumstances/situation/geopolitical factors distinct from those of its immediate neighbors whose ethnonationalists like to assume that it never had characteristics of a distinct entity but is rather a random conglomerate of islamicized serbia and croatia. these characteristics in turn made it relatively open to islam, which does not contradict the fact that the presence of christianity has always been also significant
It might be strange for some people, but Bosnian territory (herceg - bosna, )was always Croatian territory, many of our kings have been crowned there, and Croatian people have lived there before any muslims, or serbs.
YES, YOU ARE RIGHT!
No, the Pelješac bridge wasn't opened for tourists specifically. It has already been in plans since the early 90s.
OMG, Dalamtia is historical region of Croatia anexed in history and it is defenitly not a gift! But the answer why does Croatia geographically look like this is because modern day Bosnia and Herzegovina used to be a part of Croatian Kingdom,, Ottoman empire is responsible for the modern day shape of Croatia and cultural diffusion of Bosnia and Herzegovina
The coast of lika yes, we can agree on. But the islands and zadar were 100% venetian, they identified as venetians and they spoke only venetian. Furthermore the architecture and cities were built entirely by venetians. When austria annexed the lands they favored croatians because they were scared of italian nationalism and revolts, while croatians were smaller and all inside their empire thus easy to control. That's why the Austrians helped the croatians to slavify the regions changing italian names and surnames to croatian and forcing them to learn croatian.
What Venetia has with Italians? Funny how iredentistic ideas are all around Croatia while we have none, or half assed ones born out of reaction to formers.
@@FrancescoBedini well yeah, but I was explaining it in short and what you said is only small parts of Dalmatian region. artifacts, stones tablets and similar things from the 7th, 8th and 9th centuries were found on several islands of the Dalmatian region, which confirm the Croats and their culture in those areas!
@@ivanmatusic5540 I actually don't identify as italian at all. I just feel venetian. So it's incorrect to associate them to italy, but more than fair to do so with venice. I was in zadar three days ago, I felt as if I never left home.
@@FrancescoBedini I think all people should feel like you said anywhere in europe
Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo intéressante :) J'imagine qu'on a déjà dû te poser la question mais comment fais-tu pour connaître autant de choses sur l'histoire et la géographie ? Tu as l'air d'être un véritable puits de science quand j'écoute tes vidéos.
Hahaha merci beaucoup ! J'ai eu un très bon prof de géographie à la fac qui nous apprenait à lire une carte et à deviner quelle matière aborder sur le territoire
Hahaha merci beaucoup ! J'ai eu un très bon prof de géographie à la fac qui nous apprenait à lire une carte et à deviner quelle matière aborder sur le territoire
@@TeleCrayon Ah je comprends un peu mieux cette aisance à traiter des sujets aussi vastes ^^
Je pars en Vacances en Croatie, cette vidéo est donc méga utile merci !
serbs were loyal vazalls of turks for 600 years...they gnsded all catholics from bosnia and croatia together with there turkish masters and settled there, serbs were to afraid to fight there occupnts unlike croats, we saw it very well durng ottoman occupation
Nice video! Little update: Croatia now has 3.8 million people and in Zagreb there are 800 thousand people.
E hablotip nowadays is mostly common among north africans, albanians and serbs...becasue african, albanian and arab pashas left their genetic trace in modern servian population during 600 years of ottoman occupation...theats why modern servants look more moroccan and afghan then white...
Just a note that further explains Croatia's peculiar shape - the historical "Croatia proper", now centered around Zagreb, has actually migrated to where it is now from the south during the country's thousand years of history. Originally, the core of Croatia lay in Lika and the hinterlands behind Zadar and Split, encompassing parts of today's Bosnia. As the kingdom developed and grew it first reached the Sava river, and then later the Drava river where contact with the Hungarians was established, thus delineating the broadest scope of the country as laying between Drava and the Adriatic.
The core of the country then started a slow migration from Dalmatia and its hinterlands up further into Lika and Bihać (today the northwesternmost part of Bosnia and Herzegovina), and later during the long wars with the Ottomans, Croatia came to lose its territories in the hinterlands of Dalmatia and Bihać (then capital) so the core of the country moved closer to Austria, settling in the area between Karlovac and Varaždin. With Zagreb the last remaining unconquered urban area of any economic, political and clerical importance, it naturally assumed the role of capital over the next couple of hundred years.
J'ai cru que tu ne publierais pas aujourd'hui mais me voilà rassuré :)
Tu trouves toujours des sujets super intéressants. Merci pour cette vidéo
Par contre j'ai pas compris la vision à moitié bouchée de Télé Crayon...via une vidéo de Psychodéclic, il à expliqué le fait qu'être de droite signifie vouloir désinformer les masses et les isoler de la verité. Pourtant dans l'histoire droite comme gauche la désinformation s'est faite de l'impérialisme japonais jusqu'au communisme nord-coréen...je le pensais plus ouvert d'esprit. Oui je suis de droite, non les gauchistes ne sont pas à proscrire. Juste les extrémistes de tous bords.
@@_-Miami-Vice-_ Tu parles de quelle vidéo ?
@@EnjeuxsurCartes Psyhodélic, WOKE SANS CONTEXTE 4.
Fun fact : la ville de Dubrovnik a été le lieu de tournage de Port-Réal, dans Game of Thrones
Dubrovnik s'appelle Ragusa en italien.
@@johanvandermeulen9696 ok
@@johanvandermeulen9696 italia sono africa...
@@ukumukudukudhu7225 Africa addio.
BETTER THAN TWILIGHT;
The book "Balkangreuel" by Gottfried Sieben explains the realtionship about Smrdian girls and Turkish men :))
And also explain the "heroism" of mighty Smrdians against there Muslim occupants
Well, as a Croat, a product of 900-year-long Gang Bang....you should really be quiet about DNA :) :) lol
@@petarn2204 croats have over 71% dinaric dna (especially in dalmatia and hercegovina)
servants have over 30% (e1b1b) north african and 30% j1 (middle eastern) DNA
the ultimative proof that croats are pure europeans and servants are just a product of 900 years gang bg by turks, arabs, romans, bulgarians, avars, mongols
croats usually look german and russian
serbs usually look indian and arab
@@bolner2231 Liar liar pants on fire, E and J haplotypes came to Balkan 3500 years ago :) it is easy to check on google.
But following is true: Croats 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷 🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺 🇻🇦 🇻🇦 🇻🇦 🇻🇦 🇻🇦 950 years long foreign tropes enjoy love with Croatian grandmothers
@@nekoime8872 Albanians, Serbs, Kurds and Moroccans have the most E and J genes how it comes?
It comes because Albanians, Kurds and African pasha enjoy with Serbian grandmothers...and serv look more arab then slav (croatian, polish russian etc.)
La Dalmatie un « cadeau » fait à la Croatie?… oui et non, plutôt non même. Les croates la peuple depuis au moins le VII ème siècle… le fait que la Dalmatie fasse partie de la Croatie est tout à fait légitime et ne vient pas de nulle part.
J'allais le dire en commentaire mais tu m'as devancer 😁
Dalmacija =🇭🇷🇭🇷
Hm. Au 7e siècle, les peuples d'aujourd'hui n'existaient pas... Vu que la religion est le principal motif de division, les Bosniaques et les Croates n'en avaient aucune avant les victoires turques...
@@zoharion8644 the name Croat existed way before Croatians came to the peninsula, they existed as Croats way before Ottomans, it had nothing to do with religion
@@Kokolo-ze2cp Oui, mais les seigneurs croates n'étaient pas les maitres de toutes les villes de la cote adriatique. Le peuple slave était dans l'interieur et en majorité un peuple d'agriculteurs.
Surtout que les "Croates" venus de Russie via la Pologne comme les autres ont surtout peuple ce qu on appelle la Croatie historique, région de rijeka à la slavonie et du Velebit à la frontière hongroise, les autres slaves de Bosnie ou de dalmatie se sont définis comme Serbes car orthodoxes et ayant rompu avec Rome, et les catholiques d Herzégovine ont été assimilés par extension aux croates de la Croatie historique Zagreb, Zagorje, Samobor, Sisak etc...
Car si on enlevé la religion il n y a aucune différence même linguistique entre les Serbes de Bosnie les Musulmans (bosniaques) et les "Croates" d Herzégovine ou de Dalmatie, disons au sud de split-makarska
Géniale cette vidéo, le format et le contenu sont parfaits.
Na nesreću povijesno poprilično netočan...
Muchas gracias por los subtítulos en español! Aunque el francés es una lengua romance como el español, me es muy difícil entender el francés hablado. Con los subtítulos, podemos aprender de muchos países sin tener que estudiar francés, un idioma hermoso pero complicado!!!
Que bien de saber que hay españoles mirando a esas videos !
@@acronix2893 bueno, yo no soy español, soy mexicano, y los casi 500 millones de hispanohablantes de este planeta siempre agradecemos que se nos hable en nuestro idioma, en la lengua con la que pensamos pero, sobre todo, la lengua con la que sentimos.
@@RubenZepedaA He aprendido el español porque vivo en España desde poco y tengo que decir que vuestra idioma es una maravilla, y me gustaría mucho ir a Mexico, me parece un pais muy bonito
Pues sí, yo puedo leer un poco en francés (como en portugués), pero entender dicho.. me cuesta
Francuska je ukinula dvije hrvatske republike. Jedna se zvala Dubrovačka Republika, a druga manje poznata Poljička Republika.
Et hop ! Encore une vidéo intéressante sur un sujet méconnu !
J'ai pris la route de Dubrovnik à la Dalmatie en voiture, lors du passage de ce morceau de territoire de Bosnie, on voit bien des douaniers, mais ils ne demandent strictement rien, comme si ce territoire appartenait à la Croatie, il est d'ailleurs sous son contrôle.
Bc in that part of bosnia mostly croats live
Eh bien tu as de la chance parce que personnellement j'ai été arrêté 15 minutes à la frontière pour que l'on me fouille ma voiture jusque dans les enceintes et qu'on me déplie tout mes vêtements pour voir si il n'y avait pas de la drogue dedans. Bon faut dire qu'un jeune de 19 ans avec un vieux Peugeot Partner immatriculé en France qui arrive à la frontière Bosniaque ça tape à l'oeil...
Après je ne suis pas passé exactement par la même route, je voulais aller voir un peu en Bosnie. Le truc c'est que c'est théoriquement la partie croate de la Bosnie et qu'il sont de base plutôt sympa.
Because that area is inhabited almost 100% by Croats.
je confirme ,il y a quelques années dans une liaison réguliere autocar entre dubrovnik mostar et sarajevo meme constat au niveau de la localié litorale bosniaque de neum( aucun controle)......seul un relatif arret de plusieurs minutes pour l 'entrée en bosnie herzégovine en direction de mostar( les douaniers n 'ont meme pas regardé les passport union européenne)
Ils controlent pas car ce sont des feignants
C'est un plaisir de se retrouver avec ce genre de vidéos qui expliquent certains points d'un pays ! A refaire ;) ?
J'adore ton travail! Et en plus, j'adore ton montage de ta vidéo c'est impressionnant!
Excellent ! =)
Une bonne vidéo sur un pays dont on entend pas souvent parler
Cette vidéo est une insulte à la mère patrie. La Croatie n'est pas difforme, et il n'y a pas de vraie Croatie. Toute la Croatie est vraie. Il n'y a pas d'italiens en Istrie, ni de serbes à Vukovar.
@@zer-atop3032 "Difforme" n'est pas une insulte ; durant l'Histoire, il y a des moments où le territoire de la France, et même différents territoires européens n'avaient aucun sens ! (Et moi je le prend pas mal) 🤷♂️
Ensuite quand TéléCrayon parle de "Fausse Croatie" ou de "Croatie", c'est un abus de langage, mais ce sont des termes qui exisent, pour désigner une partie du pays : bref ce n'est pas son avis et encore moins une insulte :/
@@zer-atop3032 Ah, et il y AVAIT des Italiens sur la côte (la Mer Adriatique borde l'Italie, et à l'époque, la ville de Venise savait profiter de cette géographie)
@@zer-atop3032 Si il n'y plus d' Italiens en Istrie c'est par ce que d'abord les Ustachis du poglavnik les ont assassinés et plus tard les bandits serbo-communistes de Josip Broz-Tito.
Nažalost povijest je poprilično površno i netočno prikazana u videu...
Ouiii une vidéo sur mon pays d’origine 😋
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Croatia is kinda crossword, that's why it's so interesting. Croats together with Poles, Armenians, Moldovas are Antemurale Christianitatis given by Pope for fighting Ottomans. They were stoped here and that's all philosophy why we have today islam majority in Bosnia and why Croatia is shaped this way. Dalmatia was never a gift, it is a heart of Croatia with long suffering history and i as Dalmatian-Croat with over 800 years old family tree guarantee that. To correct few comments here, Dalmatia wasn't under Venice for thousands years but cca 350years. It was way more time in Hungaro-Croatian kingdom. Our shape today is our sacrifice for defending Europe from Ottomans together with ones i mentioned above,you welcome.
P. S. Take a look at 30year war between christians and protestants and who were Croats there. That's when neck tie (kravate-croate) was invented.
*Crossroad
Well actually it was majority of serbs protecting the borders and thats where they ultimately settled before they got ethnically cleansed
Serbs came in run from Ottomans to what we call millitary frontier and yes they defended those places near border. It was not ethnic cleansing simply cause Serbian krajina authorities gave order to people to leave Croatia. Tuđman call them to stay but to be honest, after operation Storm our people made crimes in revenge so it may be smarter for them to leave. But it doesn't make whole operation crime and it wasn't ethnic cleansing. There is a lot videos, documents and Serbian conffesions claimed that civilians were ordered to leave. They even killed their own civilians while escaping in tanks... And now accusing us for ethnic cleansing. Transkript of Milošević talking goes: "less then 6000Croats defended Vukovar for three months and you can't defend Krajina for 24h with 30000 soldiers. Instead of that you run away and asking Yugo army for help. Even if we send you a help, army could not get there on time cause all roads are locked with civilians in run that you order. After Martić asked him what should he do cause Croatians forces coming, Milošević answered:"kill yourself". You know that this is true, this been played in Haggue and it is not some kind of secret. Everyone inerested can see this, and you still lying and accusing us. Ok, now fxxx off.
@@adobb6221 funny when a bosnian is protecting serbs...
Oh, c'est une question que je me pose depuis tout petit !
Merci pour cette vidéo !
PS : Une pensée à la Bosnie qui n'a quasi pas de plage 🙃
@Plogeek 7871 ce n'est pas rien il faut le préciser ! J'aimerais bien visiter ton pays ceci dit ^^ 🇧🇦
@Plogeek 7871 Y’a 3 jours j’ai traversé ton pays simplement pour aller de Split à Dubrovnik, et ça m’a coûté 50€ de hors forfaits. L’arnaque
@@actized206 , l’astuce c’est de mettre son mobile en mode avion entre les deux frontières.
@@actized206 Grâce au pont qui ouvre aujourd’hui on sera plus obligés de passer par cette ville de merde t’en fais pas
Je me demande comment tu fais pour trouver toujours encore tous ces concept franchement gg.
I am from Croatia and I have to say that you did a good job! Only thing is that area from Rijeka to Zadar and south of Middle Croatia are the original parts of Croatia.
Yes dalmatia is a historical region not a gift.
Netko je spavao na satovima povijesti 😴😴😂.. Povijesne činjenice su dosta iskrivljene. Npr. Dubrovnik se prikazuje kao Mletački teritorij, Rijeka oduvijek talijanska.. Što nije točno.
@@aleksa21 e tu si upravu, al opet nemam to kako ponavljat jer nam oduzmu sve knjige lol
I am a Croat, great video I must say, just few things Dalmatia was not a gift and Dubrovnik (Ragusa) was never under Venetian control.
Been able to watch and understand your video, because of the German subtitles. Your pronunciation of our Croatian cities, ignoring your French accent, is on point. 👌🏽 Good work.
Trop beau la Croatie
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Dubrovnik (Ragusa) gave Neum (small strip of land belonging to Bosnia) to Ottomans so they wouldn't share border with Venice.
Ne seri!
@@monsky872 koji je tvoj problem?
@@monsky872 ma duhaj ga
Dalmatia was and it is croatian region where mostly croats live
Cry
Croatian Y-chronosome:
60% I2 (pre-balkanic) + 30% R1a (slavic)
Serbian Y chromosome:
30% E1b1b (berber) + 30% J (turkish)
How it comes? Probably because serbian grandmothers were gant-bngd by turkish, arab and african pashas 500 years long...
Dubrovnik was for example never a Croatian city in whole history. Until 1939, when it was added to administrative region Banovina Croatia, made by Serbian king in Kingdom of Yugoslavia.
Dubrovnik was throughout history populated mostly by Roman (Italian population), and Serbian Catholics (later assimilated to Croats, during half of XIX century, when all Catholics of Balkans who spoke serbo-croatian language were declared as modern Croats - heavily supported by Vatican and Vienna).
Rascia was Croatian zupania in medieval time. Read Mavro Orbini.
@@eltoro10-v5t LOL riiight..... Well, Zagreb is not Croatian city, according to Antun Radic (1903), biggest Croatian ethnographer.
@@petarn2204 gypsy-serb, read Mavro Orbini. Servians means slaves of byzantines. Its not ethnicity.
@@eltoro10-v5t turko-hungarian Croat, 900 years of foreign sperm on legs of croatian girls ;)
@@eltoro10-v5t turko-hungarian 900 years of foreign gang love of croatian girls
The Mediterranean coast is a kind of gift that Croatia received !!!??? OMG , the Kingdom of Croatia was founded in that area 1400 years ago ! You have no idea who Slavs, Dalmatians and Italians are. I am a Slav, a Croat and a Dalmatian documented in the last 800 years ! To read that you have a hostile attitude towards Croatia and Croats! The neighboring country is called Bosnia and Herzegovina and it is the land of SERBS-CROATS-MUSLIM. That red is HERZEGOVINA.
Serbian Genes:
E1b1b:
🇲🇦 80% 🇽🇰 40% 🇷🇸 30%
J2:
🇹🇯 40% 🇹🇷 40% 🇷🇸 30%
And servants still claim that they have nothing to do with turks and turks didnt bng them 500 years long hahahahaa
Nice video, only thing is...Dalmatia is the "heart of croatia" historicly speaking as all Croatian Kings had their seats there.
Where are the graves of your imaginary kings or their memorial chapels
@@predraglackovic5001 and island just beside the Solin.
All Croatians kings and later Hunarian-Croat kings took their crowns in dalmatian towns.
Some examples: Nin,Biograd,Solin,Knin.
@@predraglackovic5001 milos obilic never existed he is invented by serbs
Actually Miloš Obilić existed, but was Croat from Turopolje named Milo Kobilović.
@@djesidjenis4576 no he didnt there are no historical proof for his existence
Merci Télécrayon
well, I hope you can explain to tourist who having a bath around Pag island, that that waters were full of dead bodies, because 2 concentration camps were held on Pag (Slana concentration camp, and Mejtana Concentration camp). This is great story for VICE news.
Spędziłem wakacje w Chorwacji już dwa razy i muszę przyznać, że jest tam cudownie!
Pozdrowienia z Polski 🇵🇱❤🇭🇷
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Pozdrav Poljskoj!
@@fritula6200
Sredice vas Putin
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Uvijek ste dobrodošli jer ste pristojni gosti i kao ljudi!
@@damirbajs9202
katolicki turci (🇭🇷) + katolicki jevreji (🇵🇱)
Dubrovnik est aussi la porte d’entrée vers le Monténégro, un pays qui développe sont tourisme en ce moment. Il possède une situation politique et historique très intéressante entretenant des liens avec l’Allemagne de longue date !
Ceci dit historiquement ca reste des serbes qui ont migrer dans les montagnes à cause des ottomans
La croatie c'est cool
Je suis allé à Kotor au Monténégro c'est vraiment magnifique.
Petite curiosité la Croatie n'a pas l'euro mais fait partie de L'UE alors que le Monténégro c'est l'inverse.
@@AlighieriD4nte La Croatie aura l’euro dans six mois
@@ibnenkigalileo9256 Ça sera plus logique.
L’auteur ne parle que des autoroutes, jamais du réseau ferroviaire. C’est significatif de notre époque où le chemin de fer n’est plus mis en valeur (malgré les grandes déclarations politiques).
@Patrick Gregov Hélas…
Zašto je Hrvatska deformirana,
?Zato šo je u tampon zoni i isti ok i zapad su je pokušali prosvojiti i jedno vrijeme su uspjeli
Pa ne zaboravite da sve ovo područje bivše Jugoslavije , Rumunjske, Bugarske, Makedonije Grčke, Albanije, turske, Armenije , bliskog istoka, Arabije Egipta i Cijela Sjecerna Afrika , pa Španjolska, i portugal i cijela Itakijabilo Rimsko carstvo, kije se zbog nemorls i ludosti Rimskig careva raspalo. Neki narodi su uspjeli izbotiti samostalnos. I hrvatski kraljevi i knezovi su uspjeli, ali neprestsne pretenzije raznih naroda zgurale su hrvate i danas ih guraju u čošak. Ali zadnju rijječ ima Bog nad svim narodima i svi postojimo dok nam on dopusti, a onda nas zbog raznih i ludosti raznih lgažnih đomoljuba i čežnje za vlašću, izmišljaju move granice i nove pretenzije.
Ponavljam zadnju riječ ima Bog . To je jasno, Trese nad, zalijeva vodom ne bi li se otrijeznili, ruši mitove i laži da nas prosvijetli, da smo samo u prolazu i da smo prah i pepeo, glineni lonci koji se lako slome. Shvatite svi vi veliki znalci povjesti i povesnih često lažnih činjenica, da već danas možete umrijeti. Pa svski dan zdravi i ljudi puni sebe umiru na razne načine. Puni mediji toga i nitko ne shvaća da je možda slijedeći na Redu. N
Uz sva znanja svijeta , sve medije ništa od povijesti niste naučili, a kažu "Povijest je učiteljica života" , E pa onda prestanite uzimati što vam ne pripada i naučite da ratovi nisu ništa dobroga donijeli samo mržnju, zlo , strah i netoleranicu.
Poštuj drugoga kao samog sebe(ako se uopće poštuješ), pa ćeš nositi mir i ljubav među ljude. Nitko se nije birao roditi i gdje i kako će se roditi. Rođeni smo sa svrhom da se međusobno ljubimo i pomažemo u dobru, a ne da činimo zlo jedni drugima.Hej vi umišljeni močnici svijeta, stanitena loptu i recite DOSTA ZLA idemo graditi mir, dati slobodu malim narodima i ne izmišljati nove narodnosti i nacije , a brisati postojeće i ne dati im disati. Hej Putine, Kime i ostali vlastodršci dosta vaše tirsnije
! Sutrs češ iti leš kao tisuče koje ste ubili svojom paklenom ideologiom. I zemlja će vas iz utrobe izbaciti , ma kako velike dpomenike imali. Preživljavaju, mali skromni spremni jedan druugome pomoći i podijeliti pola šnite kruha, bez obzira na vjeru i naciju. I ostaju dovijeka zapisani u knjizi života!! 💜💞💙i
Dalmatia is the ancient part of Croatia, the Croatian culture began here in the 9. Century
Tu peux faire une vidéo sur l'histoire du Soudan ça me ferait vraiment plaisir
Sympa de voir cette vidéo un jour où tu es en vacances en Croatie.
Magnifique pays au passage, je conseille !
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Serbs 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 ☦ ☦ ☦ ☦
500 years servian grandmothers enjoy with turkish/arab pashas and mongol horse riders...
"All the most beautiful and suitable women, young women, and Serbian girls from the village had to come to her, and play and sing while playing the bagpipes and other music in a circle, and thus enjoy the Turkish life. , the Turks chose the best and most beautiful Serbian women whom they liked, and with them they lay, rolled, hugged and publicly shamed themselves in front of their fathers, brothers and husbands, with the unfortunate Serbian women fornicating in the middle in broad daylight - Such a terrible trann Turkey reigned over poor Serbia". Konstantin Nenadović, Kojekude Serbia, Vienna 1883.
Kurvatia ceased to exist in 1102 when Hungarian king slain crotian ruler, and all Croats kneel down and kiss a feet of Hungarian king (or not just feet, but....).......... until 1941, when Hitler created fist Croatian state.
We in western and central europe are ready for another round of NATO. Soon baby very soon :)
@@stblaz7288 Well, you Croats thrown flowers on German SS thanks, singing songs, cheering...... so when you say "we all", who do you think of? You Nazis? lol
@@stblaz7288 "We all"....you mean, Croats who thrown flowers to german SS tenks, singing songs, and cheering to Hitler..... so you say, "we nazis"?
@@petarn2204 Not just the Croats but the whole central and western europe :)
@@petarn2204 6 german soldiers marching into belgrade in 1941 loool
Une vidéo sur la Bosnie stp je pense que c'est vraiment un pays sous-coté qui mérite une attention francophone.
L’histoire des Pays bas ? Pourrait être grave intéressant ^^
Real reason is because Croatia lost Bosnia and Hercegovina during Otoman war in Europe. Bosnian muslim have Croatian origins.
70% hr je bilo Bosna u 16 vijek
Merci pour ton travail, c'est super comme d'habitude.👍👍👍
Mislili su neki da nas neče biti ,svoju radost nisu znali skriti.Tko na tvrdoj stini svoju povijest piše tom nemože nitko povijest da izbriše.Na kamenu tvrdom o tom slova pišu: OD STOLJEĆA SEDMOG TU HRVATI DIŠU!
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Tu pourrai faire un épisode sur la Belgique avec les difficultés des langues et de gouvernement. PS: je suis belge et j’adore tes vidéos.
Je trouve ça soûlant, j'ai même pas envie d'en parler 🙈
Ou plutôt focaliser sur la situation de Bruxelles, et le fait que ce soit une agglomeration qui en fait traverse les frontières politiques (je pense à Waterloo, Dilbeek, Wemmel, RSG....etc.)
Non la Vennbahn c’est interessant
Super intéressant, merci 👍
Great video exepct one thing, dalmatia was always part of croatia even before napoleon and venece, first croatian kings were from dalmatia
Bonsoir !
Pour ajouter au caractère ubuesque de la frontière bosnienne, tu aurais pu étudier la raison historique de cette frontière. 🙂
En effet : le port bosnien de Neum est peuplé à 80% de Croates et ça n’a rien d’un hasard.
Cette incongruité remonte à 1699, date à laquelle la république de Raguse (aujourd’hui Dubrovnik) cède le port de Neum à l’empire Ottoman (alors suzerain de la Bosnie-Herzégovine) pour se protéger des ambitions de la république de Venise (qui possédait le Nord de la côte).
Donc c’est une frontière tout à fait artificielle à laquelle la Bosnie s’accroche dur comme fer alors que le port de Neum ne lui donne même pas accès aux eaux internationales…
Bref
Je trouve que les dégats géo-politiques causés par les Ottomans ne vont pas s'arranger avec des populations aussi perdues dans une floue idéntité réligieuse. La Yougoslavie était éssentiellement faible précisement par sa diversité culturelle..Sans Tito, les musulmans salafistes installés dans l'Albanie ont pu faire leur guèrre civile préparée facilement contre les serbes, les défénseurs de "l'union slave du süd".
Rectification, Neum n'est pas un port mais juste une station balneaire peuple a quasiment 95-100% de croates.
All nations have dark moments......
.....but only Croats had children concentration camps.
@@Michael-h1r4h Serbian concentration camp for children:
- Rakovica manastir near belgrade
Serbian rp camp for children during the 1990s:
- Omarska camp
- Foca
- Visegrad
- Prijedor
- Kozarac
Regarding the issue of emigration, it's worth noting that while the emigration rate is high in poorer EU member states, these same states benefit enormously from being part of the Union in many ways, particularly economic development. What we have seen is there is an immediate flow of emigration (often paired with high amounts of remittances), then structural/development funds, investment, etc. flow into the poor new members, which later on (once reaching a certain level of development) attract people who emigrated to return to the country. Despite some difficulties in this process, such as intermediate brain drain, these countries are overall many orders of magnitude better off in the EU. This is the basis for the the aspirations of these countries' nations to accede after all.
Tu dis n'importe quoi..les Italiens et Autrichiens ont occupé la Croitie.
T’aurais pu faire l’histoire de l’OTAN, la ligue Arabe, la SDN (ONU) et OUA (UA)
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Très bon réportage.
Le pont pour aller à Dubrobnik m'a surpris vu le sujet de la frontière entre deux anciens pays de la Yougoslavie. La guèrre organisée depuis le Royaume-Uni et l'OTAN a fait une grosse casse sociale entre ce deux pays Croatie et Bosnie-Herzegovina autrefois, unis.
You didn't go far enough in history. If you combine Croatia with modern Bosnia, you will see that the shape is no longer misshapen.
Odgovor je vrlo jednostavan i logičan, Hrvatima je kroz povijest na različite i vrlo kreativne načine kraden njihov teritorij ( BiH, Vojvodina, Boka Kotorska).
Tako je Luka👍
Croatia get Dalmatia as a gift??? From who'?? In fact first Croatian medieval state is formed in Dalmatia... Croatia fought with Ottomans for 500 years and that is why borders are like that...
Belle explication.
Car je reviens de vacances de Croatie et cette vidéo me dit plus sur son histoire.
Bravo à ce Monsieur.
Mdr, origine Croate, jamais appris la langue malheureusement, mais j'ai toujours vu ce pont depuis tout petit a la plage juste à coté lors de nos vacances, me demandant pourquoi ça prenait autant de temps !
Update : j'y suis actuellement, j'ai pu voir et même touché le pont par au-dessus et en dessous x)
Le coin a l'air sympa pour faire du vélo, dommage que j'ai pas le mien de route sous la main, par contre depuis la plage de Komarna, j'ai nagé jusqu'aux piliers, ça s'adapte vite là-dessous, y a déjà des moules et autres coquillages partout sur la partie immergée ! xD
Tu as quel âge?? Le projet de pont a été d'abord initié en 2007 par les autorités croates avant d'être interrompu en 2012 en raison de la crise économique. En 2015, le premier ministre croate Zoran Milanovic annonce que le projet est relancé.
Cependant, le projet suscite l'opposition des autorités bosniennes, qui craignent que le pont gêne ou empêche le passage de navires à fort tonnage vers le port de Neum, un argument réfuté par le gouvernement croate qui assure que les caractéristiques techniques du pont sont faites de façon à permettre le passage de tout navire. Le gouvernement bosnien affirme, de position constante, que la construction du pont n'est pas possible tant que les deux pays n'ont pas réglé la question de façon bilatérale. La Bosnie-Herzégovine en a informé la Commission européenne dans une lettre en septembre 2017.
En juin 2017, malgré la controverse sur le sujet, la Commission européenne annonce qu'elle financera le pont de Pelješac à hauteur de 85 % de son coût.
En janvier 2018, la présidente croate Kolinda Grabar-Kitarovic réaffirme que le pont présente une grande importance pour la Croatie et qu'il n'est pas dirigé contre les intérêts de la Bosnie-Herzégovine.
Le contrat pour la construction du pont est signé en avril 2018 entre le gouvernement croate et le consortium chinois China Road and Bridge Corporation . En réponse, le président du conseil des ministres de Bosnie-Herzégovine, Denis Zvizdic, annonce qu'il enverra une nouvelle lettre aux autorités européennes pour tenter d'empêcher la construction du pont.
Le Premier ministre croate Andrej Plenkovic a assisté le 29 juillet 2021 à l'inauguration du pont. l'ouverture à la circulation devrait se faire le 26 juillet 2022
Merci Wikpedia!!!
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Je me rappel évidement pas de tout mes voyages en croatie etant assez nombreux et au debut trop jeune, mais en tout cas ça correspond.
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Soon Herzegovina is gonna be part of Croatia 🇭🇷, Herzegovina is our Croatian-Catholic land, and we already work on that... 👌
Herzegovina is olso Ortodox + ✔🇲🇪🇧🇦🇷🇸
HRHB
Lijepo je sanjati
@@bellaladja8945 kad snovi postanu stvarnost....
@@ce9098 so Serbs also get Republic of Srpska,
Tout le monde sait que la Croatie à la forme d'un dragon. 🤭
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une vidéo sur la bosnie serai la bienvenue bon travail
The border was called Craina (Kraina) defended by Serbs against the Turks to not expand no thurther it was a Serbian border financed by Austrohangerian
serbs were loyal vazalls of the turks and were settled by the turks in so called "krajina"
Bravo TéléCrayon ! Je ne poste pas de commentaires d'habitude mais je regarde toutes vidéos ! Très bien réalisé, vraiment top ! A pluus
Croats 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷 🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺 🇻🇦 🇻🇦 🇻🇦 🇻🇦 🇻🇦 950 years long foreign tropes enjoy love with Croatian grandmothers
Recommence l’histoire des pays
Le pkus curieux c'est que les gens qui vivent dans ce petit morceau de téritoire bosnien sont des croates.
De part et d autres c est peuples de slaves catholiques qu on a assimilés aux croates par la suite puisque sans différences ethniques la religion a servi de différenciation.
Les slaves catholiques se sont définis comme croates surtout au XXeme siècle dans cette zone du sud et Tito à créé la nationalité "bosniaque" en partant des Serbes islamisés de Bosnie et du Sandjak serbe à côté
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Serbian war crimes during the 90s on croatian bosnian and Albanian children and women:
Vukovar massacre, Slavonski Brod, Dubrovnik, Bucin, Osijek, Karlovac, Kuljani, Dalj, Petrinja, Erdut
Serbian war crimes in Bosnia (where genocidal Republic of Srpska was created):
Bijeljina, Foca ethnic cleansing, Visegrad, Omarska concentration camp, Prijedor concentration camp, Bombing Sarajevo, Kozarac concentration camps, Jajce ethnic cleansing, Zvornik etc.
Operation Koridor (200´000 croatian and bosnian civilians were displaced an kiled) etc.
and of course Srebrenica (biggest massacre in Europe after WW2 done by servants)
Austro-Hungarian Vice-Marshal Gherter, after the First World War, wrote about the Croats:
"I have never seen in my life, nor heard of beasts in human form like
Croatian soldiers. Although they fought with us and primarily served for
intimidation and repression of the people, I as a person am ashamed of what they stood in
our ranks. In the actual battle, they would leave their positions, while very skillfully
avoided the opposing army and always moved towards the deserters who were
consisted of bare-handed people, women and children. When they sometimes arrived, they did horrors that made our hair stand on end.
They are dirt to the world and European culture."
@@nekoime8872 1172 writes Helmold von Bosau from Lübeck after his trip through the Balkans: "...they are called Servi, sons of the devil, without the yoke of God, ministers of all fith, who live in their places in a bestly manner, wilder than animals." Helmoldi Presbyteri Chronica slavorum; In: Monumenta Germanica Historica, Scriptorum tomus XXI, Hannoverae MDCCCLXVIII
J’aime bien le partie pris du bon sens à la fin de ta vidéo, on construit un pont illégitime à cause d’une raison illégitime, les frontières sont le bandeau de notre égoïsme, on nous a donné une mémoire pour ce rappelé que l’être humain depuis son existence n’aime pas son voisin
Le pont sert a ne pas passer justement la douane, donc très pratique pour les croates et pour les touristes qui vienne bien évidemment
Donc c'est que du plus ce pont !
Je vois pas en quoi ce pont est illégitime. La Croatie n’a pas construit au dessus des zone maritimes bosnienne. Le pont est entièrement en Croatie et ne touche en aucun cas la Bosnie.
La Croatie est un pays souverain, ils ont le droit de construire ce qu’ils veulent, où il le veulent.
Je vois pas pourquoi ils écouteraient les caprices du voisin…
La seule raison pour laquelle le pont dérange les bosnien c’est que ca les arrange de récupérer un peu d’argent des touristes qui sont forcés de passer par la Bosnie.
@@MHL_CCR The money from pass-through is insignificant, Neum lives on cheap mass tourism bookings. The bridge bothers the bosnian unitarists who believe they would one day push the Bosnian Croats aside and build a freight port there to trade with islamic countries. But the bay is too shallow for that anyway.
superbe comme d habitude
It's all simplified, but ok. I still can see that there can't be a single video or anything about Croatia without mythomaniac Serb nationalists coming to tell us the "truth". Few years ago, after WC18 actuall Pope said that Croatia is a small country, but Croats are among greatest european nations. Anyone think he said that without any reason, just cause he like us? Or maybe he have access to info and just maybe know something more than average person? Croatia is a young country, but Croats are here long time ago. It's not a myth that Croats were among the best fighters in Europe, it's the truth. I already wrote about Antemurale Christianitatis, but Croats were among the best soldiers in 30years war too. Many German and Swedish sources claim this statement. Croatian light cavalry were asked for help cause Croats forged their millitary skills in wars against Ottomans and by some sources were "kings of war improvization". Some sources saying that Croats killed Swedish King Gustaf II. Adolf. He states:
"Germans are slow cause of heavy armor, Poles always looking what to steal, Moldovs don't want to go far from home for a fight and Vlachs are easy to buy for a little money. But Croats, they attack in groups and they never stop....Even devil himself can't escape them on battlefield...". Germans claim that only Croats cavalry could get to Gustav II. and killed him and some sources says that Swedish families of that time scared children with Croats. Also Croats were first who entered Magdeburg after swiming over river with horses, but there they made a lot of atrocities. In millitary-historical museum in Vienna stands statue of Croatian cavalry from 1620y. Also neck tie came from that time, krabat-krabaten-kravata-croata. There is a lot of historical facts about Croats that westerns mostly just don't know. For example, in center of Budapest stands statue of Myklos Zrinsky. Most of Hungarians thinks that he was Hungar. I asume that tourists think so too when they came to Budapest and ask locals who is he. But truth is that his real name is Nikola Šubić Zrinski and he was famous croatian mayor in Hungaro-croatian army. He fought great battle of Sziged with mostly Croat soldiers army and was killed there. There is still few Zrinski surname families in Croatia today. Some says that Napoleon stated:"give me 10000 Croats and i will conquere Europe, give me 100000 of them and i will conquere the world", but there is no science proof of such statement. I think of that as simple as this is area that always been on the edge of conflict, with lot of different religion and etnicities and always been point of interest for everyone. So people just learn to live with it. Our biggest shame in history are Ustaše and what they did. That's Serbian favorite topic, always sticked to it when talking about Croats whitout mention of facts that many Croats were partisans, that first partisan movement in Europe was formed in forest Brezovica near Sisak, of croatian men and one serbian women, Nada Dimić. Even Tito was Croat. Sadly but modern Serbia is nothing but authocracy state with goverment composed of same people who started all 90's wars and lost all of them. They need to clean their counsions, that's why they will always lie about Croatia, spit on us and try to represent us as Ustaše. Historicly Serbia was made of old Raška which was part of Cro kingdom before church divide. Nemanjići were catholics who returned crown back to Pope and turn orthodox. That's how Serbia was born. Only orthodox country in Europe that is not originally orthodox cause they were catholics first. That's in short. Many Serbian scientists and historyografs confirm that Serbs came from Croats and was Croats, but all of them are pushed aside and probably labeled as traitors in today Serbia, Jovanka Kalić, Sima Ćirković, Relja Novaković... all Serbs. Serbs have historical and cultural hole of 500y under Ottomans, without mention of Serbs and Serbia so they keep stealing from others, mostly Croats to fill that hole. They always seated on "two chairs", as it was back in history, same is today and will always be. They fought Turks on one time and on the other fought with them against christians. Don't ever compare Croats to Serbs, never. Ustaše was formed because of serbian unitaristic politics and dictature. Serbs killed Croatian politican Stjepan Radić in parliament. Serbs killed only normal Serbian politician since 90's Zoran Đinđić. They claiming that we steal language from them, but truth is that modern serbo-croatian language is actually old croatian language modernized by Serbian linguistic Vuk Karadžić. Modern Serbian is far from slav language, it's mix of turk-bulgar-croatian and even english language, while modern croatian is still dominant slav language. There's a lot of examples for this. And then they saying that we steal their language and fact is that they didn't had one and didn't know how to preserve one we gave em.
Serbo. Croats
Januar. Siječanj
Februar. Veljača.... so on
Fudbal. Nogomet
Šargarepa. Mrkva
Paradajz. Rajčica
I think all Slavs can understand croatian as slavenic language while Serbian seems more like Turk-English?? Serbians were most uneducated nation in ex Yu, 70%,while Cro and Slo were on 15%. Serbians were among last European nations with surnames(cca 150y old) , while Croatians had them long time before. They took a lot of Cro surnames, but today they claims that all of them are originally Serbian. Serbia started all wars in 90's,lost all of them and today they want to make themselves a victims. Croatians never had problems with any southslav nation except Serbia while Serbia had problems with everyone, even Montenegro - serbian Sparta. Croatia were always influenced by west and Serbia by east. That's the biggest difference and source of all problems and reason why Yugoslavia couldn't stand as country.
So you are writing new history, your Pavelic says you Croats are Gotts ,so how come you think different, by the way today's Croats are mostly Austro-Hungarian descendants ,kao I vas Franjo TUDJIMAN, TUDJI
Hahahahhahhaaaaa you wish😂😂😂😂Pavelić nije naš. Eto vam ga, nosite ga sebi pa ga možete rehabilitirat ka Dražu i Kalabića, ionako su bili ekipa.
Croatia ( then part of Hungary & later Austria ) was invaded by the Ottoman Turkish Empire and after about 200 years of warfare the "Treaty of Karlowitz" of 1699 AD was signed after the Great Turkish war.
After 1945 the Yugoslav communist party decided to use Croatia war borders of 1699 AD as the basis of the Socialist Republic of Croatia ( some parts of Croatia ( & Dalmatia) from 1699 AD were annexed by Serbia and Montenegro after 1945).
After the fall of Yugoslavia the internal Yugoslav republic borders become the international borders.
Super vidéo !! Je suis allée en Croatie il y a un an et nous n'avons pas pu rejoindre Dubrovnik pour cause de passage de douanes (avec le covid, pas non valide, nécessité de tests)... Ça aide a comprendre le pourquoi du comment !
Hi from Croatia🇭🇷