I have been on OHM, Time and Klima for a while; to me personally it’s about the devs and community when it comes to game theory. Of all these forks; I like Euphoria for this reason as the community is strong and the devs did not just pop out of nowhere; The VenomDAO team has been building on Harmony and bsc for months and they are reputed; it’s just that Harmony one chain is smaller compared to others to bring more traction. With more news coming for Harmony next weeks; I can only see this growing.
I just started to branch out into the defi space after spending a couple months getting a hold on crypto. Your channel is absolutely amazing and getting me caught up faster than I can fathom. Can't wait to start contributing to your patreon after I make back the educational costs from learning the fundamentals of crypto. Thank you for doing so much for the community and anyone willing to dive in head first
I was trying to figure out the implications around dilution in detail after watching alpha only channel a day ago and here we already have a video from our favorite calculator guy. Good to hear POV about bunch of high APY forks that I was hesitant about too. Amazing content Stephen!
@2:25 what do mean you want to see a protocol focus on bonding/minting and not the reserve currency? Bonding/minting is how you build up the reserves... you can't have bonding/minting without creating a reserve currency in the process no?
Keen to hear your thoughts on Wonderland outlook for next few months (other than the obvious "take some profits"). Hard to shake that "too good to be true" feeling., yet so far it is
I'm also curious about hearing cash out strategies for $time... My thoughts were to cash out some percentage of rebase rewards per week? More or less than half depending on how you feel about the project long term.. 🤷🏾♂️
Rebase until you earn what you put in and run. Pull the invested amount and let the rest ride. Get back in next bull run; these projects won’t last a bear market; they can barely stand during a bull run.
Thanks for doing this, really appreciate the explanation put simply, was feeling FOMO about some of these forks but you helped me understand the mechanism of these protocols
Awesome video. I only got into RVRS a day ago. Wish i knew earlier to buy them at under 50c! Please let me know what pages or blogs etc i should follow and read to find out about these new ones early! Thanks man ☺️
How come the returns are different on this calculator compared to your TIME calculator. when inputting the same APY its a lot lower on this one compared to the OHM/Time/Klima calc
Hi Stephen, what do u think of HectorDao they are going to implement some type of what they call of strat they call 4.4 and some other different things
I threw into $SPA having thrown in to $TIME as my first foray into defi. At this point, I'm much more involved than I was then, so whatever success with TIME for me was blind luck. I'm seeing how difficult it is to herd kittens with SPA.
Hey mate, loving your channel, its helped me get started with staking my fantom on spookyswap for the first time. I was wondering if you had a link to the calculator (APR vs APY) you are using in one of your previous videos? If it is just a personal one you use, no stress.
Always appreciate your videos Stephen, and I certainly take your point with these forks. If you look at the price action for Time and OHM, they were exactly the same in the early weeks while they built their trust and treasuries. Spartacus to me looks ok. The price to backing is low, 1:1 currently and they have quickly built their treasury with a conservative APY, they have good volume, good metrics disclosed, active Dev in the Discord (no multi-sig). The others I agree for various reasons I wouldn't touch them. But Spartacus to me looks "ok"....certainly not low risk like Time or OHM, but there is potential price upside greater than those two. (I hold OHM and TIME)
SPA to me is like experiment if this defi model works or not. just 2 hrs ago market price is below price backing SPA but then market price jump back just above the price backing SPA. seeing that makes me top up some
Great points but have you looked at the chart for Time lately? Or Olympus? They are all tanking; some more than others. I was thinking of holding with Time but I have way too much to lose. I imagine people are getting liquidated left and right this week.
Question about a fork being written with malicious code (Samson Option) and you threw 100 bux into it, can they also clean out your entire MM wallet say, even other networks or can they take everything you have on the Avax network?
another great vid dude thanks! ya.. after asg.. i got super jaded on forks.. took half my bag outta ohm and lost most of it.. which made me hesitant on TIME... now.. i look at it and watch for a while to see if it crashes and can stabilise.. means I lose the initial gains.. but dont get stung again.
Bless you. You're doing the lord's work, saving folks money, time, energy, and headache, and heck, maybe saving lives if anyone's dumping life savings in these shitdoas
Hey Calculator Guy. Can you make a video and/or a calculator that includes DCA in one of these Daos. Say you invest 2000 initially and set aside 500 to add each week regardless if price has gone up or down? Thanks.
Hi Man, thanks for your analysis. In this video you mentioned that a Reverse protocol is launching in 1 or 2 days time, please, what is the name of the protocol and where can I find it?
The APY in Snowbank has fallen more than considerably. Starting at something like 300 quadrillion % 5 days ago, it is now 3 million %. Unless it stabilizes and stops the free fall practically, I don't see a reason why someone would choose that over Wonderland for example
“Why are you buying these?!?!” Lol I totally get it. The yield chase can be a rush. But you bring up a good point when there is nothing behind it other than APY
i dont think you are entirely right marketcap is the only thing that matters for these tokens. sure if all token were constantly being swapped right now - after every rebase they would have dropped a little bit in value (since they were just created from thin air), but since most of the tokens are locked, the moment rebase happens - price doesn't drop. so if you don't hold 10% of all tokens - you getting a rebase and selling all your tokens would give you a net benefit of whatever is the amount you got for that 1 rebase. thought in the grand scheme of things - you are correct. creating tokens from nowhere doesn't mean you are getting richer
Great content been following for a while, very surprised you are not using pre search exterior for searches to earn pre. On a different note, can you please review the compounding staking pool of wag 8k apy on wagyu swap (velace chain) ?
I don't think that it temporarily spiking up then coming down back to the level it was at near the start is proof that the price is going to keep falling.
The video is very biased towards Pro Ohm and Wonderland yet there marketcaps has already massively grown in a short time. Snowbank and other projects have insane volilitiy as the game theory works itself out. Just like Ohm/Wonderland did, though community is going to help sustain that growth.
People need to understand that the APY is only for multiplying token quantity that you hold not the value of that token... The token value is still on market demand and supply. The only good DAOs are gonna be the the first movers in each network like OHM and TIME and ones trying to do something different from the rest like KLIMA DAO
And APY is dynamically determined by bonding/minting mechanisms and total % of coin staked. Both are dynamic, but I agree, you shouldn't conflate token APY with $ APY, unless you're willing to assume the price stays stable, which requires exponential increase in market cap over time
When the mcap goes up, why does your value of your holdings go up? Aren't you holding the same amount of a bigger pie? Same for when the mcap goes down: you're holding the same amount of a smaller pie, so shouldn't it be worth more?
I am inside Wonderland, however I am skeptical of the APY that they say they offer, I think that if I am lucky due to currency fluctuations and if there is any bearish event I could get even double my investment in a year, with that I will feel satisfied
Man you're a breath of fresh air in this space, genuine, grounded, intelligent and brilliant at explaining complex concepts. Don't change anything!
Love having someone in this space without the silly hype attitude. Thanks for being real and stating the facts time and time again!
Olympus and Wonderland are definitely the only two I’m gonna touch
Same
I have been on OHM, Time and Klima for a while; to me personally it’s about the devs and community when it comes to game theory. Of all these forks; I like Euphoria for this reason as the community is strong and the devs did not just pop out of nowhere; The VenomDAO team has been building on Harmony and bsc for months and they are reputed; it’s just that Harmony one chain is smaller compared to others to bring more traction. With more news coming for Harmony next weeks; I can only see this growing.
Same
Same 👌🏻
agreed. almost aped in to snowbank last night and then looked at tlv and decided im totally happy with ohm/time combo
I just started to branch out into the defi space after spending a couple months getting a hold on crypto. Your channel is absolutely amazing and getting me caught up faster than I can fathom. Can't wait to start contributing to your patreon after I make back the educational costs from learning the fundamentals of crypto. Thank you for doing so much for the community and anyone willing to dive in head first
CalculatorGuy and Caezor's Snack Sandwich are two of the best no BS defi channels. Probably two of the must underrated crypto channels.
I was trying to figure out the implications around dilution in detail after watching alpha only channel a day ago and here we already have a video from our favorite calculator guy. Good to hear POV about bunch of high APY forks that I was hesitant about too. Amazing content Stephen!
When you were looking at SB price changes and referring to days it was actually within hours.
at 18:20 he mentions being able to stake wMEMO. Where would I be able to do this?
Spartacus is now offering 3 million APY and Treasury has been growing a lot!
@2:25 what do mean you want to see a protocol focus on bonding/minting and not the reserve currency? Bonding/minting is how you build up the reserves... you can't have bonding/minting without creating a reserve currency in the process no?
Excellent video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Spartacus had a huge dip. Would be a good time to jump in. Backing is only a couple cents lower than market price.
What about otterclam finance? They're a solid bunch
Subscribed! Solid content. There are so many forks I'm building a directory on my site. So many projects...
Much appreciated your clear cut opinion..no BS.. you have got yourself a subscriber
Keen to hear your thoughts on Wonderland outlook for next few months (other than the obvious "take some profits"). Hard to shake that "too good to be true" feeling., yet so far it is
I'm also curious about hearing cash out strategies for $time... My thoughts were to cash out some percentage of rebase rewards per week? More or less than half depending on how you feel about the project long term.. 🤷🏾♂️
Rebase until you earn what you put in and run. Pull the invested amount and let the rest ride. Get back in next bull run; these projects won’t last a bear market; they can barely stand during a bull run.
Thanks for doing this, really appreciate the explanation put simply, was feeling FOMO about some of these forks but you helped me understand the mechanism of these protocols
You are the best, once again very genuine review thank you very much.
Awesome video. I only got into RVRS a day ago. Wish i knew earlier to buy them at under 50c! Please let me know what pages or blogs etc i should follow and read to find out about these new ones early! Thanks man ☺️
great video, howcome you are bullish on hector dao if is the same as this ones? playing the ods of getting in early?
Anything that goes to 0 goes to 0. If the project has some value then the compounding interest will pay off given enough time.
Hey thanks man . I appreciate you. You let ppl donate to you
How come the returns are different on this calculator compared to your TIME calculator. when inputting the same APY its a lot lower on this one compared to the OHM/Time/Klima calc
Thoughts on temple?
thoughts on Klima DAO? its backed by BCT instead of stablecoins
Hi Stephen, what do u think of HectorDao they are going to implement some type of what they call of strat they call 4.4 and some other different things
I threw into $SPA having thrown in to $TIME as my first foray into defi. At this point, I'm much more involved than I was then, so whatever success with TIME for me was blind luck. I'm seeing how difficult it is to herd kittens with SPA.
Hey, he has it in the description in one of his older videos.
@@jadlau8103 has what in the description of one of his older videos?
Hey mate, loving your channel, its helped me get started with staking my fantom on spookyswap for the first time. I was wondering if you had a link to the calculator (APR vs APY) you are using in one of your previous videos? If it is just a personal one you use, no stress.
What do you think about Spartacus trading at its backing price, basically no premium on it atm?
What do u think now with time down just like other?
What do you think of KLIMA DAO?
Legit!
Legit devs hold a mini ama every Wednesdays and Thursdays. Solid project.
Might wanna have a look on GYRO, Centric, or Invictus (IN). Thanks for your work
Can you do an update on this - Spartacus is doing great
What do you think about Hector DAO?
Epic video per usual!! Question... Can I buy you a new low profile keyboard for your comp
!?! Haha
Thank you for the video.. You saved me... Ill stay with ohm , wonderland, and strong....
Always appreciate your videos Stephen, and I certainly take your point with these forks. If you look at the price action for Time and OHM, they were exactly the same in the early weeks while they built their trust and treasuries. Spartacus to me looks ok. The price to backing is low, 1:1 currently and they have quickly built their treasury with a conservative APY, they have good volume, good metrics disclosed, active Dev in the Discord (no multi-sig). The others I agree for various reasons I wouldn't touch them. But Spartacus to me looks "ok"....certainly not low risk like Time or OHM, but there is potential price upside greater than those two. (I hold OHM and TIME)
SPA to me is like experiment if this defi model works or not. just 2 hrs ago market price is below price backing SPA but then market price jump back just above the price backing SPA. seeing that makes me top up some
Great points but have you looked at the chart for Time lately? Or Olympus? They are all tanking; some more than others. I was thinking of holding with Time but I have way too much to lose. I imagine people are getting liquidated left and right this week.
It was the entire market.
Any info on Diatom Dao?
i just dont see how the marketcaps of any ohm forks are going to go down at this point. or ohm for that matter
Hey Steven, muchos gracias for sharing your thoughts. any further thoughts on OtterClam?
a less discussed fork
great video. What do you think of ROME coming soon?
given all that, what is it that makes these any different to a ponzi?
Really appreciate you making this video. Clarified so much for me. Curious where you sit on Klima?
solid information. thanks for the great content
where can I get the APR to APY calculator?
Could we access your Excel file please?
link to the calculator you used?
Question about a fork being written with malicious code (Samson Option) and you threw 100 bux into it, can they also clean out your entire MM wallet say, even other networks or can they take everything you have on the Avax network?
What's a runway?
Can you post a link to the Staking Mini Calc please?
Link to calculator please Sir
another great vid dude thanks!
ya.. after asg.. i got super jaded on forks.. took half my bag outta ohm and lost most of it.. which made me hesitant on TIME... now.. i look at it and watch for a while to see if it crashes and can stabilise.. means I lose the initial gains.. but dont get stung again.
big on time feel like time and ohm will be the best bet on the defi2.0
thank you agian your daily uploads are the best
How exactly do these protocols guarantee that their market cap never falls under their treasury value?
Bless you. You're doing the lord's work, saving folks money, time, energy, and headache, and heck, maybe saving lives if anyone's dumping life savings in these shitdoas
another awesome video many thanks !!!!
Watching this 3 days later with Spartacus now being 218$ and a market cap of over $58m. Would be interesting to see if your view on it has changed now
Thank you! you saved me a lot of time and probably also money
Hey Calculator Guy. Can you make a video and/or a calculator that includes DCA in one of these Daos. Say you invest 2000 initially and set aside 500 to add each week regardless if price has gone up or down? Thanks.
Or maybe you've had an idea or a theory, with that kind of thinking.
Hi Man, thanks for your analysis. In this video you mentioned that a Reverse protocol is launching in 1 or 2 days time, please, what is the name of the protocol and where can I find it?
Whats your thoughts on taichidao on bsc
A video on Klima? Had a completely different use case then most of this forks
Can you do one for Hector Dao please?
Hey there, great content. How do we use your calculator? Is it available on your Patreon?
The APY in Snowbank has fallen more than considerably. Starting at something like 300 quadrillion % 5 days ago, it is now 3 million %. Unless it stabilizes and stops the free fall practically, I don't see a reason why someone would choose that over Wonderland for example
Thoughts on Kelper DAO?
That's a great calculator, would you share that one?
Very informative. Thanks!
Hi do you know any platform to short sell Time?
Good luck with that
Can you share the apr-apy calculator?
Are you connecting your main metamask to snowbank etc? Probably shouldnt do that in case they steal credencials
If no one has done it yet I doubt anyone can do it
“Why are you buying these?!?!” Lol I totally get it. The yield chase can be a rush. But you bring up a good point when there is nothing behind it other than APY
i dont think you are entirely right marketcap is the only thing that matters for these tokens. sure if all token were constantly being swapped right now - after every rebase they would have dropped a little bit in value (since they were just created from thin air), but since most of the tokens are locked, the moment rebase happens - price doesn't drop. so if you don't hold 10% of all tokens - you getting a rebase and selling all your tokens would give you a net benefit of whatever is the amount you got for that 1 rebase.
thought in the grand scheme of things - you are correct. creating tokens from nowhere doesn't mean you are getting richer
Great content been following for a while, very surprised you are not using pre search exterior for searches to earn pre. On a different note, can you please review the compounding staking pool of wag 8k apy on wagyu swap (velace chain) ?
Exodia Finance recently announced multi-sig with some notable folks in fantom community.
Would be interesting to hear your view. Thanks.
Also, EXOD can be swapped on spooky unlike the others.
With all of these forks it's really starting to look like Thanksgiving already 🦃
Good video. I came to the same conclusion. I wanted to ape into exodia, then i thought....why? Whats the point? Just buy more ohm, or time, or klima.
I don't think that it temporarily spiking up then coming down back to the level it was at near the start is proof that the price is going to keep falling.
Hey Calculator Guy, do you share these spreadsheets on your patreon?!? If so, shut up and take my money!!
Spartacus has a huge upside. Almost 1:1 backing.
The video is very biased towards Pro Ohm and Wonderland yet there marketcaps has already massively grown in a short time. Snowbank and other projects have insane volilitiy as the game theory works itself out. Just like Ohm/Wonderland did, though community is going to help sustain that growth.
What are you saying ?
@@toolegittoquit_001 they all will follow similar paths to ohm
at this point ur just aping in on any dao that moves, there must be at least one which makes it after 1 year
Well explained, thank you!
solid video again!
Thanks again for the clear explanation 👍
Bruh glad im curious and joined spartacus finance discord, thanks for alpha mate ❤️
Hector DAO seems to be slightly different from the others
I made good profit on that already. got in at 30 pounds
People need to understand that the APY is only for multiplying token quantity that you hold not the value of that token... The token value is still on market demand and supply.
The only good DAOs are gonna be the the first movers in each network like OHM and TIME and ones trying to do something different from the rest like KLIMA DAO
And APY is dynamically determined by bonding/minting mechanisms and total % of coin staked. Both are dynamic, but I agree, you shouldn't conflate token APY with $ APY, unless you're willing to assume the price stays stable, which requires exponential increase in market cap over time
show us your discord channels dude
Snowbank has been awesome so far. Great telegram. Big future plans.
thx for the info !
Wonderland time has the best community
I’m biased but yeah
Wonderland army
Glad to see your not one of the Cryptonairz content creators out there shilling $HEC. Don't let those guys sucker you into becoming a shill for them.
Great video 💯
please could share with as the exels
When the mcap goes up, why does your value of your holdings go up? Aren't you holding the same amount of a bigger pie?
Same for when the mcap goes down: you're holding the same amount of a smaller pie, so shouldn't it be worth more?
Suppose the TIME chart not looking great past few days... Think that's people switching to these projects?
Look again 😎
I am inside Wonderland, however I am skeptical of the APY that they say they offer, I think that if I am lucky due to currency fluctuations and if there is any bearish event I could get even double my investment in a year, with that I will feel satisfied