I made a similar idea of Dragapult + Thorn back in August after worlds since there’s no competition being held in my country for the following 2 months (till now), glad to see that the idea was very valid
17:55 Can you win by doing Fire off 3 fire energy to Thorns, attach rescue board so its retreat cost is 3, retreat into munki keeping the luminous on, magma basin the fire back onto armorouge, fire off the luminous to munki, move 30 damage to the thorns, arven for switch, ultra ball the dpult, switch into dpult, fire off the fire & luminous to dpult, attack for game
16:42 wouldnt it be better to move the luminous energy to munkidori to allow you to adrenabrain because at 17:54 wouldnt you have game arven for future booster to retreat into drakloak ultra ball for dragapult magma basin to amarouge adrena brain 30 off the amarouge fire off the fire energy and luminous then phantom dive
12:35 Couldn't you have used Basin to Charcadet then Munki'd 3 damage to the bench Thorns and Boss KO it? So your opponent would be 1 more energy short
I would think keys are fine but the idea is to slow the opponent down. Disabling squawk and ogres on bench is a big deal. It also doesn't shut down fez. Although thorns does stop lugiah and Zard and can damage. IMO I would do keys or thorns.
I have been playing this deck, and you can actually use thorns as an attacker quite a bit, since you can attach luminous energy and then transfer magma basin fires up from armarouge. I wouldn't ditch it, it's a great addition.
Deck is definitely cool, but tried few games against meta decks (lugia, raging, charizard), you may drag the game, but they have boss order and prime catcher to disrupt the iron thorns momentary and that's how they win with a slide. Still an interesting deck tho.
I feel like you could have headbutted the blissy in active to 270 then CC into bouff for three prizes next turn, they would have needed switch boss no?
Hi, do you also make videos on EXTENDED format decks for Pokemon TGC-Live? Do you know where I can find Extnded decklists (which are compatible with Pokemon TGC-Live as they don't have all the cards in the extended format)?
This deck is really cool, but it doesn't vibe well with me. Twice I open with Radiant Charizard against Palkia-Dusknoir, once with Thorns and bricky hand against Klawf, the last game I open with Manaphy, no energy, opponent plays Dragapult with Munkidori, and my Munkidori is prized. So, 4 loses in the first 4 games.
And amazingly so is Ho-oh V sir piplup. Enjoy! Pokemon: 2 Ho-oh V 3 Terapagos ex 3 Bouffalant w/ curly wall 1 Mew ex 1 Fezandipiti ex 1 Lumineon V 1 Squawkabilly ex 1 Radiant Greninja Trainer: 4 Carmine 1 Crispin 1 Penny 2 Iono 2 Boss's orders 4Nest Ball 3 Ultra Ball 1 Hisuian Heavy Ball 1 Earthen Vessel 2 Energy Switch 4 Glass Trumpet 3 Area Zero Underdeptha 1 Forest Seal Stone 1 Bravery Charm 1 Hero's Cape Energy: 2 Lightning energy 2 Fighting energy 2 Psychic energy 2 Dark energy 2 Grass energy 2 Fire energy 2 Water energy 2 Metal energy
This is a hotchpotch deck that only a few people can master the insane build. For a casual and average player, its a block deck that you have to deal with.
I don't know how this deck got Top 4 in any major tournament. Guy probably stacked (especially with the possible opportunity to do so with Drakloak's ability). The deck's draw engine is questionable at best with Drakloak and fezandipiti. Deck just seems very bricky.
I agree but I think the idea is since you have iron thorns the whole idea of the deck is just to stall with iron thorns until you get dragapult ex and since the current meta is pretty rule box ability dependent I think it allowed them to get 4th through stall
@deificatom3332 this. I think the idea is in the games. u can't get early traction u try to disrupt with thorns. it's one of those try a bit of this and a bit of that type decks. I don't think it'll ever be that reliable but on a given day it could sweep
Dragapult, Iron Thorns, Unfair Stamp... Dang, that's a mean deck.
"Wha-what what is an Iron Thorns doing in this guy's Dragapult deck? He's trolling!"
Any improved list with surging sparks release??
Wow!! I've been using this deck. Thank you for introducing me!
I made a similar idea of Dragapult + Thorn back in August after worlds since there’s no competition being held in my country for the following 2 months (till now), glad to see that the idea was very valid
I ran into this deck three times this morning. Was wondering what the heck was up but now it makes sense
17:55 Can you win by doing Fire off 3 fire energy to Thorns, attach rescue board so its retreat cost is 3, retreat into munki keeping the luminous on, magma basin the fire back onto armorouge, fire off the luminous to munki, move 30 damage to the thorns, arven for switch, ultra ball the dpult, switch into dpult, fire off the fire & luminous to dpult, attack for game
That is the most convoluted sequence I have ever seen, but you are absolutely correct.
Switch was used the turn before, so that play was impossible
@@edmanbosch7443 Ah, yea I just wasn't sure if switch was in the deck or not.
future booster capsule was in deck so there was a different sequence that could have been done if he volt cycloned luminous energy to munkidori
16:42 wouldnt it be better to move the luminous energy to munkidori to allow you to adrenabrain
because at 17:54 wouldnt you have game
arven for future booster to retreat into drakloak
ultra ball for dragapult
magma basin to amarouge
adrena brain 30 off the amarouge
fire off the fire energy and luminous
then phantom dive
12:35 Couldn't you have used Basin to Charcadet then Munki'd 3 damage to the bench Thorns and Boss KO it? So your opponent would be 1 more energy short
He can even move dmg from dragapult
Any thoughts on using klefkey or flutter mane instead of thorns?
I would think keys are fine but the idea is to slow the opponent down. Disabling squawk and ogres on bench is a big deal. It also doesn't shut down fez. Although thorns does stop lugiah and Zard and can damage. IMO I would do keys or thorns.
I have been playing this deck, and you can actually use thorns as an attacker quite a bit, since you can attach luminous energy and then transfer magma basin fires up from armarouge. I wouldn't ditch it, it's a great addition.
Do you think giratina Vstar is still viable?
Deck is definitely cool, but tried few games against meta decks (lugia, raging, charizard), you may drag the game, but they have boss order and prime catcher to disrupt the iron thorns momentary and that's how they win with a slide. Still an interesting deck tho.
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Day 23 of asking you to play regidrago
This is the deck I need for my dragapult it slow but it great for trolling and giving time to setup that turbo pult
This is a wild one! They were definitely cooking
I saw you at Louisville
I feel like you could have headbutted the blissy in active to 270 then CC into bouff for three prizes next turn, they would have needed switch boss no?
played against this in ladder the other day. total WTF moment.
Hi, do you also make videos on EXTENDED format decks for Pokemon TGC-Live? Do you know where I can find Extnded decklists (which are compatible with Pokemon TGC-Live as they don't have all the cards in the extended format)?
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@@derekjeter3654yes. Do uiu know a web site when i can find decklist compatible with tgc live extended format?
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Iron thorns - Fezandipiti is insane
Lol ig you don't want to start with the thorns in play haha
This deck is really cool, but it doesn't vibe well with me. Twice I open with Radiant Charizard against Palkia-Dusknoir, once with Thorns and bricky hand against Klawf, the last game I open with Manaphy, no energy, opponent plays Dragapult with Munkidori, and my Munkidori is prized. So, 4 loses in the first 4 games.
This deck is so much fun to play
Imagine this but with iron hands...
Dragapult keeps cooking
And amazingly so is Ho-oh V sir piplup. Enjoy!
Pokemon:
2 Ho-oh V
3 Terapagos ex
3 Bouffalant w/ curly wall
1 Mew ex
1 Fezandipiti ex
1 Lumineon V
1 Squawkabilly ex
1 Radiant Greninja
Trainer:
4 Carmine
1 Crispin
1 Penny
2 Iono
2 Boss's orders
4Nest Ball
3 Ultra Ball
1 Hisuian Heavy Ball
1 Earthen Vessel
2 Energy Switch
4 Glass Trumpet
3 Area Zero Underdeptha
1 Forest Seal Stone
1 Bravery Charm
1 Hero's Cape
Energy:
2 Lightning energy
2 Fighting energy
2 Psychic energy
2 Dark energy
2 Grass energy
2 Fire energy
2 Water energy
2 Metal energy
@@FerretTwister this deck would go hard with energy search pro or perfect mixer
Suddenly I wanna create an Iron Thorns/Alakazam ex deck…
I been working on a thorns arbok deck myself
Not to be mean but that’s just dumb…. Thorns does 20 more damage than zam and you’re just giving them the opportunity to gust around thorns …
Awesome man!
Were you at regionals?
He literally has a video about his deck at regionals, dude
This is a hotchpotch deck that only a few people can master the insane build. For a casual and average player, its a block deck that you have to deal with.
Hyper interesting
1 minutes and not 1k vizualizations? Strange... LOL
I don't know how this deck got Top 4 in any major tournament. Guy probably stacked (especially with the possible opportunity to do so with Drakloak's ability). The deck's draw engine is questionable at best with Drakloak and fezandipiti. Deck just seems very bricky.
I agree but I think the idea is since you have iron thorns the whole idea of the deck is just to stall with iron thorns until you get dragapult ex and since the current meta is pretty rule box ability dependent I think it allowed them to get 4th through stall
@deificatom3332 this. I think the idea is in the games. u can't get early traction u try to disrupt with thorns. it's one of those try a bit of this and a bit of that type decks. I don't think it'll ever be that reliable but on a given day it could sweep
Not every single deck needs a double bibarel combo
There’s not enough switch in the deck to reliably start out the game with thorns in active. Interesting that it did so well
勝者だけが正義だ。
Day 13 asking for tortera ex
I like the idea of Armarouge and Pult but…it’s pretty bad
I've been having some success with this on the ladder!
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