.308 ARMOR PIERCING Bullets - TESTED!

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • Randy sent us this unique vintage stuff to launch a couple YEARS ago and we finally had the chance to try it out. What will AP do, and what is its limits?
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  • @taofledermaus
    @taofledermaus  6 лет назад +51

    Every tracer I have seen begins to glow as soon as it leaves the barrel. (not at 50 yards or 100 yards etc.) Like here imgur.com/a/HWTP278

    • @asbjronekstrom3705
      @asbjronekstrom3705 4 года назад +2

      cant argue with that logic

    • @WWIflyingace62
      @WWIflyingace62 4 года назад +29

      Milspec tracers light at 100 yards so as not to give away the shooters position, do your research next time

    • @groenrizla2513
      @groenrizla2513 4 года назад +6

      Would like to see you guys do a penetration test with the .375 H&H Magnum. I know it's not a popular caliber in America but it is in Africa and very few (if any) penetration vids done on it.

    • @randyherringshaw6325
      @randyherringshaw6325 4 года назад

      The copper ingot looked like 2 - ³/⁸" to me

    • @randyherringshaw6325
      @randyherringshaw6325 4 года назад +1

      I would definitely say those were incendiary rounds, tracers start burning from inside the barrel because of the powder igniting the "pyrotechnics" in the tracer round and not on impact like in the video

  • @SuperMarshall2009
    @SuperMarshall2009 6 лет назад +690

    If those are M25 tracers, they won't ignite until 100 yds down range - the idea was for the tracer to indicate closeness to the target and not indicate where the shooter is.

    • @bills6093
      @bills6093 6 лет назад +9

      M25 would be .30-06

    • @thomasraahauge5231
      @thomasraahauge5231 6 лет назад +31

      well, the principle of not giving away the shooter goes for all tracers, I guess?

    • @chrisduhaime5689
      @chrisduhaime5689 6 лет назад +1

      White tip fire starter

    • @hp9mm
      @hp9mm 6 лет назад +27

      Well i was thinking the same thing, they were shooting them too close to the target, the ignition time was never reached

    • @gustafdanell5290
      @gustafdanell5290 6 лет назад +3

      Thank you!

  • @themanthevan1778
    @themanthevan1778 6 лет назад +134

    Age can affect a tracer but some tracers do have a time/range of activation

    • @jimwest1967
      @jimwest1967 6 лет назад +13

      they need a little time to heat up

    • @Bjorn308
      @Bjorn308 5 лет назад +6

      Yeah, should tried shooting at a target from at least 100 yards away.

    • @mrpirate3470
      @mrpirate3470 5 лет назад +8

      Most NATO 7.62 tracer ammo is designed to 'light up' at >100m. This is to stop the tracers from showing your exact position.

    • @sweetpineapples3753
      @sweetpineapples3753 5 лет назад +2

      and possibly shoot at dusk whilst still seeing the treeline.

    • @kg4boj
      @kg4boj 5 лет назад +2

      Tracers are DESIGNED so they don't illuminate right from the muzzle. It's bad enough tracers work both ways but having it go right to the point of aim for the enemy is a terrible idea.

  • @LarryC213
    @LarryC213 6 лет назад +129

    I'm just glad that all of you were able to escape Californistan. These brave men tasted freedom, even if it was only for a day. Good to see the whole crew, together.

  • @jasonjacques292
    @jasonjacques292 5 лет назад +398

    Tracer rounds don't usually ignite until the 70 yard range

    • @ShortStuff0000
      @ShortStuff0000 5 лет назад +22

      Agreed... shot many of these out of M240B machine guns.

    • @leefithian3704
      @leefithian3704 5 лет назад +28

      Jason Jacques yes , to protect the bore and not give away Your specific position

    • @thomasnakagema7239
      @thomasnakagema7239 5 лет назад +46

      between 50 and 75 is the norm and all they had to do was read the spec sheet found through google .maybe before they shoot next time they will do some research and look as if they have a clue as to what they are doing

    • @ders972
      @ders972 5 лет назад +27

      @@thomasnakagema7239 complain a little more about the free video

    • @khalidgoldstein6362
      @khalidgoldstein6362 5 лет назад +10

      Thomas Nakagema That is evidence that these guys are rather ignorant about ordnance

  • @pault2148
    @pault2148 5 лет назад +114

    2:01 Thank you officer Gregg, for upholding the U.S. Constitution and our Bill of Rights. Great video guys.

  • @kaiserwigglesiii2369
    @kaiserwigglesiii2369 6 лет назад +309

    I love Outside of California! It's the best place to be, MUCH better than Inside California!

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle 6 лет назад +6

      You're generalising there, Wiggles. Denmark (happiest place on Earth), Iceland (loads of guns and almost no murders), DC (almost no guns but a huge murder rate), England (we can have guns but they rust), the Tarn Gorge (verrrrry pretty plus French food and French girls), Oberbergtal (verrrrry pretty plus an Austrian lady like Daisy Duke if she could bench-press 220 lb), El Salvador (save us) and Honduras (beyond Salvation) are all Outside California.

    • @AndyREDDSON
      @AndyREDDSON 6 лет назад +1

      If you're willing to go the pa luty route, CA is still awesome- nobody looks for a gun factory say 3Ø minutes outside downtown San Fran. 😎

    • @TattooedNSnappedBack
      @TattooedNSnappedBack 6 лет назад +1

      Theyre trying to make az california now smh

    • @lorraineweller4929
      @lorraineweller4929 5 лет назад

      @@Sableagle England you can just get guns anyway legal or not you can get fully automatic 7.62x39 ak47s which are highly restricted in the USA our gun laws are a shamble we have criminals as young as ten walking around with Mac 10s that's all I have to say

    • @shanewebber8704
      @shanewebber8704 5 лет назад

      Outside of California beautiful, inside California is just like the Kamala Harris, a beautiful blowhard

  • @thomasraahauge5231
    @thomasraahauge5231 6 лет назад +202

    "This is a two pounds hammer, which is worth 17 dollars in the UK" - totally lost it :-D

    • @DeminicusSCA
      @DeminicusSCA 5 лет назад +17

      @Michael Tighe yep ever one knows the best rockets, planes, cars, tanks, guns, CPUs, medical equipment ect is made in the UK.. do they make any thing there?? Other than baby boys named Muhammad

    • @ders972
      @ders972 5 лет назад +4

      @Joe Ç r/woooosh

    • @jimdevlin2138
      @jimdevlin2138 5 лет назад

      Its just an idiotic yank attempt at sarcasm and humour, sorry about using the word idiotic but its the best way to describe these unintelligent colonials

    • @maximsavage
      @maximsavage 4 года назад +11

      @@jimdevlin2138 You don't get to call any country's population "idiots" after the Brexit debacle.

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 4 года назад +1

      @AvengeVoltaire Because the hammer weighs 2.5 pounds, which is the assumed thing he is talking about, but he swerves and makes a joke about pound to dollar conversion.

  • @skylerhamblin7891
    @skylerhamblin7891 6 лет назад +107

    Had to come to America to shoot this one huh?

  • @gallopazzesco2292
    @gallopazzesco2292 2 года назад +3

    God Bless Danny … immortalized thanks to this channel. Feels like family …. watching old family movies.

  • @jennifergregory9767
    @jennifergregory9767 4 года назад +58

    When I shoot tracers it usually takes more distance for them to get burning. In my experiences anyway

    • @RedVRCC
      @RedVRCC 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@TallCanDan02cringe

  • @StreuB1
    @StreuB1 6 лет назад +19

    Tracers require typically 100yds to light off.
    Awesome video and welcome to Wisconsin! Great state. Very desert like.

    • @OGsDangerShow
      @OGsDangerShow 6 лет назад +7

      Brian Streufert
      We loved Wisconsin! The drive sucked but we were home by the following Tuesday. 🤔

    • @richard6133
      @richard6133 6 лет назад +2

      Brian is correct about the tracers. Loved the video!

  • @KentuckyBallistics
    @KentuckyBallistics 6 лет назад +258

    Those AP rounds don’t play around.

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  6 лет назад +20

      They were beasts!

    • @Rick_Sanchez_308
      @Rick_Sanchez_308 6 лет назад

      TAOFLEDERMAUS they are*

    • @Hook-set_Outdoors
      @Hook-set_Outdoors 6 лет назад +8

      TAOFLEDERMAUS it takes tracers around 50 yards to ignite. The drag of the air heats up the bullets and ignites the tracer compound. :)

    • @LarryC213
      @LarryC213 6 лет назад +1

      No kidding. They were very impressive.

    • @Mungobohne1
      @Mungobohne1 6 лет назад +1

      nope

  • @crominion6045
    @crominion6045 6 лет назад +420

    Undocumented rifle in a sactuary safe. Genius!

    • @Fractalcat-Guilty
      @Fractalcat-Guilty 5 лет назад +8

      I'm french so I'm not that good in english and I don't get what he means, someone to explain to me please?

    • @vmpere2637
      @vmpere2637 5 лет назад +32

      @@Fractalcat-Guilty He's joking about undocumented immigrants being protected by sanctuary cities

    • @gusargoan
      @gusargoan 5 лет назад +19

      He's basically saying screw the unconstitutional laws of the government.

    • @ArtietheArchon
      @ArtietheArchon 5 лет назад +6

      @@Fractalcat-Guilty we have "sanctuary" states/cities which decide they are not going to obey laws regarding immigration, they "turn a blind eye" to illegal aliens. the joke is that he has an illegal gun in a "sanctuary safe," safe as in the thing you put valuables in

    • @johndifrancisco3642
      @johndifrancisco3642 5 лет назад +2

      @@Fractalcat-Guilty I'm glad you asked. I should have figured it out, being American and all :P

  • @rapskallion
    @rapskallion 5 лет назад +71

    You're shooting too close for the tracers. They need a little distance before they light up.
    Edit: Have you done 12 ga. bird bombs? They're like an M80 stuffed into the shell with a fuse that makes it explode around 35 yards away. Fun items. I might have a few if you haven't demo'd them yet.

    • @maximsavage
      @maximsavage 4 года назад +1

      Why not just use birdshot? Less expensive, probably less prone to defects, can be used at ranges other than 35 yards... It sounds like a cool idea, but I've seen too many useless or defective novelty 12 gauge cartridges not to be sceptical.

    • @brianscott2089
      @brianscott2089 4 года назад

      Sounds like something I'd be a little scared to shoot. Also sounds like even if it worked right it'd send shot back at you at some point.

    • @bennettrogers7921
      @bennettrogers7921 4 года назад +2

      Brian Scott they are agriculture based rounds. They are used to scare birds out of a farmer’s orchard. They don’t contain shot, they are not intended to kill birds.

    • @michaelweems679
      @michaelweems679 4 года назад

      I've always heard it called scare shot. One hell of an explosive inside them.

    • @jrwill58
      @jrwill58 4 года назад +1

      @@bennettrogers7921 There are also "bird bombs" that look like the old M-80's that utilize a starter pistol looking device. These use a .22 blank to propel and ignite the "bird bomb" about 50 to 75 feet. These are much more powerful than the 12ga bird bombs. At least they were 20 years ago.

  • @AG-pm3tc
    @AG-pm3tc 6 лет назад +79

    I love seeing O.G taking a piss on the illegal laws you have there.

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  6 лет назад +21

      Most LEO's feel the same way

    • @AG-pm3tc
      @AG-pm3tc 6 лет назад +11

      I am very happy to hear that, i hope your country can ride that wave of reasonable sanity you have right now and remove these nonsensical limitations. love your content!

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 6 лет назад +5

      It’s not illegal where they are. They’re in Nevadazona, yeah that’s it!

  • @JohnLloydScharf
    @JohnLloydScharf 6 лет назад +62

    The 51st State is named "Not California."

  • @EdwinSarkissian
    @EdwinSarkissian 6 лет назад +86

    Heyyyy what’s happening here , how come u guys didn’t tell me ? I would have came. For a second I really thought that was me lol, jeff i think it takes way more than 20 yards for the tracer to ignite. Personal experience lol.

    • @OGsDangerShow
      @OGsDangerShow 6 лет назад +18

      Edwin Sarkissian
      But, personal experience, you can’t fire a flare gun under water. 😳
      We’d LOVE to have you down one day Edwin. Anytime you’re free on a Friday there’s a good chance Jeff will have cameras rolling. Bring the Cabron too!

    • @EdwinSarkissian
      @EdwinSarkissian 6 лет назад +17

      Officer Gregg ok well let me know we might come by and film with u guys . It will be fun. I’ll bring bunch of flare guns and we can shoot in the air lol. And see how long it takes for it to hit back down first person to run is the looser

    • @xecrisr7650
      @xecrisr7650 6 лет назад +5

      @@EdwinSarkissian Roman candle fights... With flare guns. Couldn't possibly have any ill consequences!

    • @trefd2759
      @trefd2759 6 лет назад +2

      I would have backed up TWICE or more the distance . splatter and shrapnel are dangerous.

    • @sealandersound2617
      @sealandersound2617 5 лет назад +4

      Edwin is quite correct you need a 100 yards distance before that tracer round will ignite or at least the rounds we used in the military operations worked in that manner.

  • @mk6315
    @mk6315 2 года назад +17

    Oh Danny, you were always a joy to see on the channel. Hope you’re teaching the things you learned at the range in the sky buddy. ❤️

  • @handlebarfox2366
    @handlebarfox2366 3 года назад +15

    "Our governor gets to decide what laws he wants to obey" -- and they said this before 2020!!

  • @joemo1033
    @joemo1033 6 лет назад +119

    As you can clearly see...the bowling ball moves BACK...AND TO THE LEFT.
    BACK...AND TO THE LEFT.
    BACK...AND TO THE nevermind...

    • @Xissorplane
      @Xissorplane 6 лет назад +2

      For your safety wear a helment and a semen proof vest!

    • @samuelparker9882
      @samuelparker9882 6 лет назад +5

      Joe Morrell PROBABLY OVER A LOT OF PEOPLE'S HEAD. ESPECIALLY THE YOUNGER GENERATION.

    • @garyeppich2429
      @garyeppich2429 6 лет назад +1

      Dealy Plaza?

    • @TheTantanski
      @TheTantanski 6 лет назад +2

      ...When is the American gladiator comes on..?

    • @BenAntilles
      @BenAntilles 5 лет назад +2

      I hear some pidgeons going "Coup! Coup!"

  • @Gyppor
    @Gyppor 6 лет назад +360

    Sanctuary safe... I love it.
    If cities can refuse to enforce immigration laws, can other cities refuse to enforce gun control laws??? Great video as usual Jeff and gang.

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 6 лет назад +21

      Gyppor Yep! It’s happened in places like rural Colorado. The local authorities look the other way.

    • @goolabbolshevish1t651
      @goolabbolshevish1t651 6 лет назад +29

      The entire state of Kansas is a sanctuary state for guns. They said 5 or so years ago no new gun laws would be enforced and any fed who tried would be hit with every charge possible

    • @philhsueh4860
      @philhsueh4860 6 лет назад +16

      Of course, knowing the state of CA they'd crack down on any city that tried to defy their criminally stupid (and illegal) gun laws. They've been threatening people with fines (at least) if they cooperated with ICE and/or reported illegal immigrants. So given that, hey'd probably have no problem with threatening to defund any city that tried to ignore CA gun laws.

    • @Gyppor
      @Gyppor 6 лет назад +2

      That's awesome!

    • @saviostrawn8737
      @saviostrawn8737 6 лет назад +11

      Gyppor In Redding, California the local law enforcement claimed that the newest gun laws were unenforceable and will not be pursued. I heard police (in person) claiming that they wouldn’t even enforce the old laws pertaining to mag size and bullet buttons due to the endless pursuit of a true gun ban

  • @AlaskanBallistics
    @AlaskanBallistics 6 лет назад +206

    aWESOME video great stuff... tracers need several dozen to a hundred yards to really light up

    • @wayneclarke4846
      @wayneclarke4846 6 лет назад +14

      Alaskan Ballistics I was going to comment the same thing but you beat me too it high five ✋

    • @robrage5180
      @robrage5180 6 лет назад +11

      I've noticed they usually ignite between 50-150 meters

    • @juggaloforlife4682
      @juggaloforlife4682 6 лет назад +3

      Yep

    • @xibidit
      @xibidit 6 лет назад +3

      what he said

    • @ConorMakes
      @ConorMakes 6 лет назад +4

      agree guys, range was way to short but still fun to watch

  • @party4lifedude
    @party4lifedude 5 лет назад +38

    went through that ar500 steel like it was ar500 butter

    • @cryhavoc9748
      @cryhavoc9748 4 года назад

      Well then......I guess my 30-06 black tips will have no problem punching a hole in a level IV plate.

    • @Spkrdctr
      @Spkrdctr 4 года назад

      @@cryhavoc9748 black tip 30-06 goes right on through most things like its butter!

    • @Halal_Dan
      @Halal_Dan 3 года назад +1

      @@cryhavoc9748 level 4 is literally rated for 30-06 AP

    • @sorenottomybuddy
      @sorenottomybuddy 3 года назад

      @@Halal_Dan for one hit though 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @Halal_Dan
      @Halal_Dan 3 года назад +1

      @@sorenottomybuddy Most ceramic plates from reputable manufacturers will take multiple rounds of black tip even when they're not required to.

  • @DancerVeiled
    @DancerVeiled 5 лет назад +9

    The reasons tracers don't light immediately is to not give away your position quite as badly in combat.

  • @cmaugle
    @cmaugle 6 лет назад +38

    Only Patrons get to see the OG's Danny Tramp Stamp tattoo.

  • @raiderpower6875
    @raiderpower6875 6 лет назад +125

    I’m happy to see that even california officers understand the California gun laws are a joke. We have room for all of you out here in Texas if you ever feel like you don’t want to hide your passion:)

    • @FallenEmbers33
      @FallenEmbers33 6 лет назад +1

      Agreed

    • @AxeNutt94
      @AxeNutt94 6 лет назад +12

      When Tx is full come on over to Kentucky there's plenty of room for all gun lovers, even the lefties lol. plus there are backstops literally everywhere cause all the hills n hollers.

    • @hotrodray9884
      @hotrodray9884 5 лет назад +3

      @@AxeNutt94
      too many people here already... but your gun oks your admission

    • @AxeNutt94
      @AxeNutt94 5 лет назад +1

      +HotRodRay lol which gun I have a shit load?

    • @locutusofscifi1033
      @locutusofscifi1033 5 лет назад +11

      @Richard Ensey Oaths to the constitution are a joke. We threw out the constitution a long long time ago. Also, cops don't seem to realize that even though practically all laws are retarded and immoral, they'll still happily live with a career to enforce those laws, all the while the 'officials' in government make their living by violating law.

  • @n.m.s7552
    @n.m.s7552 6 лет назад +35

    "This is an undocumented rifle and we run a sanctuary safe"... LMFAO!!!

  • @frogdogify
    @frogdogify 2 года назад +1

    Have you seen the “you sunk my battle ship targets”? How’s about taking the show to an indoor range and showing the good folks what that’s all about? I would have never went to one if my buddy hadn’t of taken me. Great show fellas

  • @KOZMOuvBORG
    @KOZMOuvBORG 4 года назад +10

    Love the FAL, used in the Reserves, long ago,
    the kick gives incentive to save ammo, hence you tend to shoot straighter

  • @OmegaGamingNetwork
    @OmegaGamingNetwork 6 лет назад +8

    I always laugh when I see the "youtube analysts" criticizing the accuracy of you guys. It is a dead giveaway on someone who has extremely limited experience shooting a real gun. It has been quite a few years but I got qualified for both marksman and sharpshooter badges on various weapons when I was in the military. I am all too aware how difficult some of the shots you guys are shooting. Nothing but absolute respect for "OG" and Danny on controlling some of the absolutely crazy rounds you guys shoot.

    • @OGsDangerShow
      @OGsDangerShow 6 лет назад +2

      Thank you sir. There will always be Fortnight special operators who know how to shoot better than those of us who run these guns daily to protect our lives.

    • @OmegaGamingNetwork
      @OmegaGamingNetwork 6 лет назад +1

      Oh they are indeed "special".

    • @enigma9789
      @enigma9789 6 лет назад

      The shots are fine, im just wondering why they know so little. Tracer rounds take a little ways before lighting up.. and a little "red paint or maybe copper jacket" no shit its jacket.

    • @mattmarzula
      @mattmarzula 5 лет назад

      @@OGsDangerShow That guy's channel is nothing but him playing video games. When someone says shit like "it's been a few years... sharpshooter... military..." they're full of shit. You two can keep on 69-ing each other about Internet criticism and play it off like shooting at 20 yards with a rifle is difficult. The reality is that shooting at 20 yards is that you're shooting for the camera and not the practicality of the round. Anyone familiar with tracers knows ignition and burnout and anyone unfamiliar could search it on the Internet. This channel has always been amateur hour. Entertaining but, what isn't when you're shooting weird shit in slow motion?

    • @mattmarzula
      @mattmarzula 5 лет назад

      @@enigma9789 because they're amateurs with toys.

  • @lucky43113
    @lucky43113 6 лет назад +39

    You were too close for the tracers to work

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  6 лет назад

      Every tracer I've seen is burning when it leaves the barrel
      imgur.com/a/HWTP278

    • @lucky43113
      @lucky43113 6 лет назад +6

      TAOFLEDERMAUS depends on the ammo some can take up to 100yrds to ignite but cool video as always

    • @52rhflight56
      @52rhflight56 6 лет назад +8

      It depends on the purpose of the tracer. If it is an "over head training" tracer then it is likely to be seen immediately after exiting the muzzle. If it is a tactical round, then the subigniter and igniter chain will burn without significant signature delaying initiation of the illuminating grain until it is downrange. If it is a "dim" tracer then it can't be seen at all without light amplification. If it is an IR tracer, then it can't be seen without an IR imager.
      It depends on when the rounds were manufactured, who made them, and how they are marked.

  • @sinformant
    @sinformant 6 лет назад +55

    The "OG" is a good man! I wouldn't mind building some ghost guns, I mean undocumented rifles lol

    • @OGsDangerShow
      @OGsDangerShow 6 лет назад +9

      You gots to do what you gots to do!

    • @philhsueh4860
      @philhsueh4860 6 лет назад +2

      sinformant Not really that difficult and perfectly legal to do. You just need to buy a so-called 80% lower then get a drill press and get to milling out the insides of the receiver. After that it's a simple matter of getting it blued or cerakoted and adding the guts.

    • @sinformant
      @sinformant 6 лет назад

      Phil Hsueh LOL I know the process. And I am a machinist by trade.

    • @michaelmccall5945
      @michaelmccall5945 6 лет назад

      What's an undocumented gun?

    • @sinformant
      @sinformant 6 лет назад

      Michael McCall home firearms. Examples would be an 80% ar15 lower, glock, 1911. Completely legal to make yourself, depending on your state laws. Federally they are legal, you just can not sell them or give them away to anyone, personal use only.

  • @shevetlevi2821
    @shevetlevi2821 3 года назад

    Years ago I had an H&K 91, chambered in .308. I went out to the Everglades and found a 14 inch thick wooden beam. I set it up with a steel pail and the round went through the beam, through both sides of the steel pail and I still didn't find the bullet. For sure it'll go through trees.

  • @Camopar87
    @Camopar87 5 лет назад

    You all were shooting a lot closer than what I'd care to. You're brave

  • @Bubble33333
    @Bubble33333 6 лет назад +31

    Got an awesome idea: Line up various paint cans in front of a large canvas (or multiples smaller canvas) and blast away. Then sell the resulting art.
    I know I'd buy to support the channel!

    • @R32R38
      @R32R38 6 лет назад +4

      It might end up in the Getty Museum.

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle 6 лет назад +1

      Can't be worse than the crap in the Tate Modern, anyway.

    • @kevinhamutov8778
      @kevinhamutov8778 6 лет назад

      Bubble someone did this not.long ago....I can't remember who. Shit.

    • @riverstyxarmory9782
      @riverstyxarmory9782 6 лет назад

      Bubble state of California might buy it. They bought a damn boulder.

    • @JK-dh9sz
      @JK-dh9sz 6 лет назад

      Don't think that's legal in commifornia because.... "It is known to the State of Kalifornia that some ingredients in spray paint may cause cancer." But if you did that in Nevada, its cancer free. I'll take two!

  • @jbolo5378
    @jbolo5378 6 лет назад +18

    Jeff: oh,god, they're gonna want to see it shot lengthwise.
    Danny: Hold my Metamucil

  • @A8vscRrabbit
    @A8vscRrabbit 6 лет назад +151

    "Sanctuary safe" pure awesomeness. OG is the man

    • @OGsDangerShow
      @OGsDangerShow 6 лет назад +4

      Thanks Rabbit! 😎👍

    • @OGsDangerShow
      @OGsDangerShow 6 лет назад +2

      Soon Chuck. Soon.

    • @A8vscRrabbit
      @A8vscRrabbit 6 лет назад

      Chuck Finley the mere thought of OG with a tramp stamp of Danny.......gave me space aids

    • @A8vscRrabbit
      @A8vscRrabbit 6 лет назад +1

      Chuck Finley they definitely have a good chemistry

    • @blargkliggle1121
      @blargkliggle1121 5 лет назад

      Doesn't take much to impress you does it...

  • @frostycold1689
    @frostycold1689 4 года назад +11

    This round has always been my favorite it’s like a magic bullet it can go thru most things

  • @ryanparker7258
    @ryanparker7258 5 лет назад

    A tracer round starts to burn at 110m and burns out at 1100. I’m an infantry vet. British Army. Did enjoy the video

  • @Dsdcain
    @Dsdcain 6 лет назад +71

    *OG and "Deadeye" Danny* in the same video, that's just awesome!
    This video was another fantastic TFM production. Love your content, and thanks for making these fantastic videos available to us. *:)*

  • @poot111111
    @poot111111 6 лет назад +4

    You guys seem like a great bunch to hang out with, thanks for taking us along!

    • @JimHugg-gl9bs
      @JimHugg-gl9bs 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah he's pretty cool for a cop lol!

  • @PapiDoesIt
    @PapiDoesIt 6 лет назад +27

    No need for tracers, the jokes lit the way.

  • @Rogerthat777
    @Rogerthat777 5 лет назад

    This AP & tracer rounds experience test was fun and interesting, but these rounds were meant to be used at greater distance, which would have made this test session even more fascinating had distance increased towards end.

  • @TTiger86268
    @TTiger86268 5 лет назад +2

    308 core lokt on deer works great to.. Last year he only ran 15 feet.

    • @jeramyw
      @jeramyw 5 лет назад

      Every deer I've ever shot dropped dead on the spot. I've shot one deer.

  • @tommysedin
    @tommysedin 6 лет назад +32

    I'm not sure if there are different kinds of tracers, but the ones I've used (conscript in the Swedish army) were just ordinary rounds with a small gob of phosphor stuck to the bottom of the bullet. It takes a little while before the phosphor starts reacting with the oxygen in the air, so it only ignites after travelling a few (10 or so) meters. Good thing too, cleaning the machine gun would've been even more of a b-tch with burnt phosphor all over it. :D
    So yeah, it's basically like a tiny tiny incendiary round.

    • @bills6093
      @bills6093 6 лет назад +5

      The tracer compound is ignited by the powder charge. It has it's own oxidizer and doesn't need exposure to the air.

    • @tommysedin
      @tommysedin 6 лет назад +3

      Would make a lot more sense, but this was back in the 90s - and as part of the conscript army we were always training with the cheapest stuff available (i.e. old, leftover ammo). Heck, my brother that's only 6 years my elder was issued a Kpist -45 ("Swedish K").

    • @StPaul76
      @StPaul76 5 лет назад

      I did some machine gun shooting with tracers back in -96 in the FDF and they pretty much lit up at the muzzle but the compound was in the tip of the bullet.. Also they did give a bit of a flash when impacting on steel as the compound was splattered all over.. My enlightened guess here is that the tracers boys had here sort of ignited on the kinetic energy of the impact.. The coolest thing however was the 12,7x109 AA-machinegun spitting 800rpm belt full of tracers and incendiery.. Shit got on fire and dirt and splinters were flying all over.. Especially vivid was to see tracers ricocheting and flying half a mile arcs and incendiery igniting 100 meters up in the air after skimming from shit.. :D

    • @Nattleby
      @Nattleby 5 лет назад

      BILL SCHNEIDER I have some Russian green tracers in 54r. I forget what compound it uses. I also read that the Japanese machine gun tracers were light blue.

    • @user-td1zo3tv9p
      @user-td1zo3tv9p 5 лет назад

      @@StPaul76, it is highly unlikely (as in impossible) to have a tracer round constructed with the tracer element in the tip.
      How would you see it during flight and how would it be ignited and burned??
      I think what you meant to infer is that your rounds were of an "incendiary" construction and, Yes, the incendiary material (powdered zirconium crystals usually) was in the forward-most part of the interior of the outer jacket.
      Upon impact with any "hard" target, the internal, dense, steel or tungsten penetrator (IF also an AP round) would obviously continue forward until it crushed the zirconium crystals, causing intense (!!) heat and, thus, the "flash" which can be quite pronounced.
      Depending on the kind of ordinance (but usually .50 caliber and above due to construction complexity and lack of interior real estate) rounds can include:
      Armor Piercing,
      Incendiary,
      Tracer or a combination of some/all of these.
      When assembled and the projo tip painted, the nomenclature for the round would be labeled as:
      API-T
      (Armor Piercing Incendiary-Tracer)
      to denote what it actually was.
      Tracers by their very nature are used to show where rounds are falling to ensure good target coverage.
      Armor Piercing are designed to defeat (AKA Penetrate) hard or hardened targets up to a given distance, thickness and material construction.
      Incendiary are designed to set fire to surrounding materials as well as to cause fuels/oils to burn when exposed to the HOT debris of the burning crystals.
      There you go.
      We are all more smartened up for the day.
      Overnout

  • @phillipb4432
    @phillipb4432 6 лет назад +16

    Hey you guys are awesome you should make a video where you have a 15$ budget at like Walmart our other stores and see what’s the best. Thank you guys

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  6 лет назад +11

      We barely have a $10 budget, and most of that goes to gas!

    • @phillipb4432
      @phillipb4432 6 лет назад +1

      TAOFLEDERMAUS is there a way I can donate money to you guys ?

    • @phillipb4432
      @phillipb4432 6 лет назад

      TAOFLEDERMAUS is there a way I can donate money to you guys ?

    • @WPCRpranks
      @WPCRpranks 6 лет назад +1

      Phillip B patreon

    • @WPCRpranks
      @WPCRpranks 6 лет назад +8

      Phillip B or send to me and I will do my best to make sure some of the money gets to them

  • @isaactrujillo76
    @isaactrujillo76 3 года назад

    Safety around here, no night shooting. We’ll just sit back 15 yards and can’t see if we can hey ourselves a good, old fashioned ricochet! 😂

  • @dragonlord2451
    @dragonlord2451 6 лет назад

    You guys gotta get your hands on a .308 Norma mag. Swedish round, kinda unique. Flat firing. Incredible ballistics.

  • @Rascal77s
    @Rascal77s 6 лет назад +13

    OG's Danny tramp stamp intro gave me PTSD.

  • @CMDRCrunchButtsteak
    @CMDRCrunchButtsteak 3 года назад +20

    1:58
    And 2 years later, the same statement applies. Here's to making California a free state once again. o7 Taofladerfolks

  • @TrikeRoadPoet
    @TrikeRoadPoet 6 лет назад +40

    Dang, the whole gang was there, fun!!!

    • @OGsDangerShow
      @OGsDangerShow 6 лет назад +3

      It was like the Partridge Family all over again. But less incest and drugs.

  • @TheGameCamer360
    @TheGameCamer360 6 лет назад +9

    You guys are brilliant, you would make great gun safety advocates, good luck fan from England

  • @BudKnocka
    @BudKnocka 3 месяца назад +2

    THAT COPPER INGOT IS VERY GOOD!! WHEN YOU GONNA DO MORE TARGETS LIKE THAT JEFF!!

  • @euclidallglorytotheloglady5500
    @euclidallglorytotheloglady5500 4 года назад +5

    Just revisiting some of the back log.
    I believe Red tipped from the U.K are actually incendiary.

  • @robgoins3672
    @robgoins3672 6 лет назад +54

    Thank you OG for taking your oath seriously to up hold the Constitution.

    • @OGsDangerShow
      @OGsDangerShow 6 лет назад +13

      Rob Goins
      Until my last day.

    • @kg4boj
      @kg4boj 5 лет назад +3

      @@OGsDangerShow So on your last day are you going to throw a massive party and have a work free drug place?

    • @OGsDangerShow
      @OGsDangerShow 5 лет назад +6

      Peter Carlson, sounds awesome!

    • @realblakrawb
      @realblakrawb 5 лет назад +1

      I got all warm and fuzzy at the pickin and choosin laws

    • @kg4boj
      @kg4boj 5 лет назад

      @@realblakrawb I bet officer gregg gets warm and fuzzy with levies and replevins.

  • @gerardoherrera1366
    @gerardoherrera1366 6 лет назад +85

    I live in commiefornia and I pick and choose which laws make sense

    • @awdeveau
      @awdeveau 6 лет назад +4

      Gerardo Herrera that must keep you busy. I think California is beautiful but seems like the people in charge have a huge lack of commonsense, and a lot of laws don't seem to make sense.

    • @steveeab2364
      @steveeab2364 5 лет назад +3

      MAC shared a video of someone that registered some sort of firearm that didn't quite comply and four cops confiscated it....very disturbing video.

    • @kilroyturner
      @kilroyturner 5 лет назад +3

      Steve EAB cops are the muscle of the globalist scum, cops are not friends of Liberty! Remember cops will say they are just doing their jobs, guess on that logic we should have let the concentration camp guards off because they were just doing their jobs.

    • @davejan744
      @davejan744 5 лет назад

      kilroyturner , That was the Nuremberg defense & it DIDNT work. Hitlers NAZIES were convicted anyway. Cops who take legal firearms are just todays NAZIES. Same as the BASTARDS passing these UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS. ALL GUILTY OF SEDITION & HIGH TREASON.

    • @Gogglesofkrome
      @Gogglesofkrome 5 лет назад +1

      @@davejan744 Woah, communists are the real nazi's all along? Who knew. At least hitler had the idea to arm his populace, as well as to actually make it easier to get a gun.

  • @captainobvious2380
    @captainobvious2380 6 лет назад +7

    You have to make sure it gets back in its safe space. Lol

  • @chuckaule6292
    @chuckaule6292 4 года назад +8

    "whats the latest game?"
    "fourth night"

  • @ThatPNWGuy2024
    @ThatPNWGuy2024 2 года назад +2

    Been going back and watching old videos just to see more of Danny. Miss you brother. RIP

  • @mechsgtpuma938
    @mechsgtpuma938 6 лет назад +9

    California compliant tracer LOL

  • @Atilolzz
    @Atilolzz 6 лет назад +41

    "Danny JFK'd that ball" LMAO

    • @JK-dh9sz
      @JK-dh9sz 6 лет назад +1

      That's wrong 😀

  • @EDSKaR
    @EDSKaR 6 лет назад +25

    "This was a £2 hammer which is worth $17 in the UK."
    Legit.

    • @leecordy4215
      @leecordy4215 6 лет назад

      You shore you are from the UK.. Read what you have written does not make sense..

    • @EDSKaR
      @EDSKaR 6 лет назад

      You watched the video, right?

    • @leecordy4215
      @leecordy4215 6 лет назад

      I got you now. Just sounded funny that all..... 😂

  • @bloodthane4852
    @bloodthane4852 6 лет назад +2

    my heart goes out to all California residents who fight for the 2nd amendment..

  • @HockeyPop29
    @HockeyPop29 5 лет назад

    Most tracer ammo I know of requires a 100 yard delay before tracer ignites to prevent giving the position of the soldier firing away.

  • @TaunusTV
    @TaunusTV 6 лет назад +6

    Awesome & interesting vid. Something completely different ! Shame that O.G. couldn´t get his finger thru them .308 holes :-) I Was hoping that the AP-slug would do him the favor !! :-) Best regards, liked and thanks for the vid !!

  • @madcat789
    @madcat789 6 лет назад +6

    Guns are neutral.
    Let these guys monetize.

  • @thedude7726
    @thedude7726 6 лет назад +12

    og is a straight badass

    • @OGsDangerShow
      @OGsDangerShow 6 лет назад +7

      With an emphasis on the “straight” part.
      😎👍

    • @thedude7726
      @thedude7726 6 лет назад +1

      Officer Gregg that's not what "she" said.

  • @ditchdigger93
    @ditchdigger93 6 лет назад +1

    Tracers do not light until the have traveled about a hundred yards. If they did they would give up your position. There is a copper disk in the back of a tracer bullet that is heated on firing and takes just an instant to light the trace compound.

  • @bobjones5674
    @bobjones5674 4 года назад

    Just 4 guys in the middle of nowhere talking about penetration...

  • @jenerik_guy2474
    @jenerik_guy2474 6 лет назад +21

    Not in California?! This is clearly some sort of Taofledermaus imposter

    • @OGsDangerShow
      @OGsDangerShow 6 лет назад +15

      Just pretend it was any ol’ state...

    • @josephburchanowski4636
      @josephburchanowski4636 6 лет назад +3

      +Officer Gregg
      So we can pretend it was liquid, gas or plasma?

    • @OGsDangerShow
      @OGsDangerShow 6 лет назад +2

      l wilton, I can say with some authority on the topic that’s not true. Ammo can be laying next to the gun but can’t be “attached” to the gun per CA Penal Code. I recommend students don’t let it touch the gun just to be safe. I’ve never heard of the six foot thing. F&G and CHP operate in vastly different environments my friend.

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle 6 лет назад

      In the UK, it's a firearms offence to "cause interruption to any person" with the sound of an air gun (that isn't legally a firearm) being discharged *within 50 feet of the centre line of a highway* or to have a loaded air gun on a road without due cause. This creates the silly situation that I can legally shoot from the private woodland by the stream towards the road but not from the road towards the private woodland across the stream ... and yes, we do have "four lanes and a hard shoulder in each direction" highways here and they are more than 100 feet wide.

  • @safn1949
    @safn1949 6 лет назад +7

    I was taught to shoot by a retired Marine Corp officer and his buddy, retired Marine Corp Gunny. The bullshit artists would come and brag how far they could shoot and Pat would just say "great, let's go shoot and see". Nobody ever did, he was at that time professional security for some big time clients.
    I managed 5 moa at 500 yards with my bedded Winchester 70 varmiter in .308 with handloaded 190 grain Sierra Matchkings and 8x Leopold with target knobs. Only because of Pat the Marine, 18 years ago. Great teacher.

    • @Qingeaton
      @Qingeaton 5 лет назад

      Just like a co-worker who talked about what a great shot he was. I brought in my 1911 with laser trainer in it and after work in the dark parking lot, started taking shots at a telephone pole about 50 feet away. I tried to hand it to him, but he said he refuses to "dry fire" a weapon. F'ing priceless.

    • @williamhoskins7818
      @williamhoskins7818 5 лет назад

      Ooh rah !

    • @SlickWillyTFCF
      @SlickWillyTFCF 5 лет назад +1

      Did you mean 5 inches at 500 yards? 5 MOA at 500 is 25 inches from point of aim. That's pretty terrible, and wouldn't allow you to even qualify to the Marine Corps iron sight standards.

  • @lail118
    @lail118 6 лет назад +12

    Okay, I'm going to buy one of your t-shirts because of the sanctuary safe comment and the not Dick's bucket

  • @palarious
    @palarious 5 лет назад +24

    "This is a 2 lb hammer, it's worth $17 in the UK"
    DYING

    • @maximsavage
      @maximsavage 4 года назад +4

      @Todd Down The joke went way over your head, huh.

  • @HUNTERCOPELR
    @HUNTERCOPELR 5 лет назад +5

    I love the .308 so many options for ammo!

    • @JimHugg-gl9bs
      @JimHugg-gl9bs 11 месяцев назад

      Me too got an Armalite AR-10 it's my favorite gun and like you said very available and good variety being a military round

  • @charlesmiller6826
    @charlesmiller6826 6 лет назад +8

    I declare my safe a safe place and a sanctuary for all undocumented fire arms of all types

  • @USN_Ret-
    @USN_Ret- 6 лет назад +11

    Tracer rounds can have an incendiary effect like what we saw here.

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle 6 лет назад +2

      I set a range on fire with them once. They gave me 20 tracers, 40 ball and 2 magazines and told me we'd be shooting at 100m, 200m and then 300m, so I put all the tracer at the bottom of mag 2. The last shoot was 10 rounds grouping. It was a tight group, and the smoke cloud behind the target got a little bigger after each shot ...
      Fortunately, the brush and straw were sparse enough to burn out fast.

  • @JippaJ
    @JippaJ 6 лет назад +4

    That is a nice gun.

  • @davidunderwood3605
    @davidunderwood3605 5 лет назад

    Your tracers were probly delayed trace to protect the barrel from burn. They wont activate untill they are 75 to 100 yards out. Also keeps enemy's from closing in on your position.

  • @JoefromSoCal
    @JoefromSoCal 4 месяца назад

    You guys JFK’ed the bowling ball. Now that was funny!

  • @andreweccles4322
    @andreweccles4322 6 лет назад +8

    Thanks for the laughs chaps and thanks for the ammo matt.

  • @thehouseofstark
    @thehouseofstark 6 лет назад +7

    0:38
    You're outside in California? damn I thought you were inside a large building!
    I know I am trolling, but I've watched every single video you've made for the past three years. It's fun and entertaining to watch you guys blow things up, and it's like I do it vicariously through you

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  6 лет назад +5

      Thanks! Some people say it looks exactly like the same place Danny and I shoot, but... lol

    • @LYLEWOLD
      @LYLEWOLD 6 лет назад +1

      funny, i thought you were out in international waters.

  • @joemo1033
    @joemo1033 6 лет назад +76

    Once you go black (tip), you never go back.

    • @ravissary79
      @ravissary79 6 лет назад +2

      Joe Morrell good thing he only shot that AR 500 with the tip. At least that's what he told em...

    • @joemo1033
      @joemo1033 6 лет назад +2

      ravissary79 Just the tip...

    • @TheIdeasGuy
      @TheIdeasGuy 6 лет назад +3

      Some of us hunt. AP are useless for most civilian pursuits - other than screwing around and having good fun shooting random crap.

    • @avi8aviate
      @avi8aviate 6 лет назад

      Unless hollow-points become unbanned, which the outcome is likely never.

    • @justsayin7937
      @justsayin7937 6 лет назад

      Joe Morrell It's more like once you go black, we don't LET you come back lol!

  • @brianalbrecht4423
    @brianalbrecht4423 Год назад +1

    " a santuary safe"....lmao...lmao...that one is priceless...!...!...lololol...O.G. triple..O.G....!!..!.from someone who has a rifle chambered in 308....great video.!..thanks guys

  • @6luealreadydead
    @6luealreadydead 3 года назад +1

    Well officer Greg is now officially my favorite cop👮‍♂️ ever! After that introduction I'm gonna have to make sure I go out of my way to go subscribe to his channel💯💯👍🏼👍🏼🤜🏼🤛🏼🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸❤🤍💙

  • @ngarewyrd
    @ngarewyrd 6 лет назад +16

    A Danny tramp stamp? OG, I worry about you sometimes

    • @OGsDangerShow
      @OGsDangerShow 6 лет назад +8

      You know you’re looking into it at the local tat shop right now.

    • @OGsDangerShow
      @OGsDangerShow 6 лет назад +1

      Danny has one of himself as well. 😳

    • @andykruth
      @andykruth 6 лет назад

      Brad Yelich are you this boring in real life as well?

  • @07zx14White
    @07zx14White 6 лет назад +6

    Hahaha, I was so wrong. I thought fairly confidently that it would of been from the BMW Isetta. I was being fair and not googling images when guessing though. Wrong again taofladerfolks.

  • @reptilez
    @reptilez 6 лет назад +6

    Taofleter ALL STARS do perfection again.
    Nothing but the best here. Love yer stuff.

  • @cjanquart
    @cjanquart 5 лет назад +6

    Heh, the Fat Albert reference.
    Ladies, just watch out if Bill Cosby gives you a drink.

  • @j.cannon2021
    @j.cannon2021 6 лет назад +6

    "JFK'd that bowling ball" too soon man! too soon!

  • @jeremiahkennedy1683
    @jeremiahkennedy1683 6 лет назад +7

    You had me at full penetraion!!!!!! Great review I'd call you my true brothers. Your gonna need more cow bell

  • @marco_evertus
    @marco_evertus 6 лет назад +8

    Sanctuary safe FRW

  • @rickoshea1099
    @rickoshea1099 6 лет назад +6

    I cant shoot as well as you lot..........probably lol Rim fires and pnuematic airguns is all i get to shoot in the UK, i am sure those tracers light up at about 150-200 yds, Great vid as usual

    • @crispincurtis8585
      @crispincurtis8585 5 лет назад

      Wow that bites wind, but air rifles are though, just no boom

  • @notsosilentmajority1
    @notsosilentmajority1 5 лет назад +1

    Safety is obviously extremely important BUT videos with tracers in the daytime?? Tracers are used to help troops to see where their rounds are going, they are not designed to have any extra power. When firing a machine gun on full auto it's difficult to track the rounds, the tracers allow the gunner to see where the rounds are going and make adjustments as necessary.

  • @chrishelms1967
    @chrishelms1967 5 лет назад +2

    You guys make bathroom time very enjoyable........

  • @paulstan9828
    @paulstan9828 6 лет назад +15

    Always a lot of fun watching your channel!

  • @kitaryakysubae3156
    @kitaryakysubae3156 6 лет назад +8

    Speed kills armor. And the faster and harder the projectile, the harder it is to stop.

  • @kengamble8595
    @kengamble8595 6 лет назад +5

    I promised myself long ago that I would be " non California compliant " , so far, so good ! 😊
    Would be great to have a few hundred of those AP rounds, a LARGE assortment of materials to test and a full day to do it........... you know....... for science ! 😊 👍
    Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍 👍

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle 6 лет назад

      If your pistol grip extends below your butt, you're not CaliCompli ... so be sure to sleep on your back if you ever visit.
      For myself, I'd like to take a 16" AR15, an Enfield Competition Rifle (25.4" barrel bullpup AR180) a lot of magazines and ammunition and some building materials and tools out into the desert somewhere miles from anybody, set up a pair of 24' tall, 8' wide 0.5" plywood walls with an aiming mark on each near the top and shoot 10 rounds ball and 10 rounds tracer at one with each rifle from 100m, 200m, 300m, 400m, 500m, 600m, 700m and 800m to see how the group sizes compare, whether the two types become two separate groups and how much more spread there is after the bullets go sub-sonic, then pull back to 900m, 1000m, 1100m and so on and keep hitting them from as far back as I could to see just how far back I have to be before they won't go through.

    • @user-td1zo3tv9p
      @user-td1zo3tv9p 6 лет назад

      If you do some research, you can buy "pulled down AP AND Tracer projo's to load for yourself.
      Google is your friend. 😉

  • @goaski474
    @goaski474 3 года назад +1

    You guys shoots real good n stuff.

  • @joshberg9885
    @joshberg9885 4 года назад

    Thanks for not editing out the lower shot against the hammer. It's not cool You tube wants to demonetize your hard work.