Holy Bloomin' Bullet! The 9mm INTERCEPTOR - Tested!

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  • Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
  • Today we test out the hottest new 9mm defense round, the Interceptor by Ballistic Machinist. This is a precision-machined bullet that has 27 mm of controlled expansion. We test these against a variety of different media with excellent results. The bullet is designed for maximum damage and minimum risk of over-penetration.
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  • @fritzd2116
    @fritzd2116 Год назад +1422

    I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that Tim is gonna need another fancy bullet making machine very soon. That bullet is impressive, to say the least.

    • @erkishhorde
      @erkishhorde Год назад +64

      The link on his site is sold out!

    • @cmoney220
      @cmoney220 Год назад +36

      What will probably happen is some ammo manufacturers will be getting in touch with him...if they haven't already.

    • @BB-1990
      @BB-1990 Год назад +12

      It does not meet the minimum penetration requirements.
      Just like the RIP rounds.
      Overpriced gimmicky crap is what it is.

    • @brent8783
      @brent8783 Год назад +21

      Very impressive and agree that this may pay for another CNC lathe or three. Aside from the stunning performance, I just checked and no one has them in stock at the moment, since the price was also reasonable. $1.90 per round ($38 per 20) for fully copper, CNC-machined 9mm slugs.

    • @ZacharyH20
      @ZacharyH20 Год назад +16

      Assuming the machine can really crank out 1 bullet every 40 seconds for 24 hours nonstop, the one machine can make 2160 projectiles per day! 🙂

  • @tacticalmattfoley
    @tacticalmattfoley Год назад +276

    The construction of this bullet is amazing. I cannot believe how consistently it expands while staying in one piece. I fully expected the petals to tear off in almost every medium. Well done Ballistic Machinist!!!

    • @BallisticMachinist
      @BallisticMachinist Год назад +31

      Thank you

    • @HyksosKhamudi
      @HyksosKhamudi Год назад +8

      @@BallisticMachinist bravo 👍

    • @Len_M.
      @Len_M. Год назад +3

      @@BallisticMachinist You getting some balls behind the production of this? Get some distribution, If not shop the idea to Underwood so we can get a case of these. I need these in my Life.

    • @autr3553
      @autr3553 Год назад +4

      @@BallisticMachinist Congratulations! Not many people who try to make a decent round are successful! This is outstanding

    • @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28
      @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 Год назад +2

      @@BallisticMachinist how do we purchase these?

  • @gvii
    @gvii Год назад +871

    I can't even begin to imagine the amount of work he put into getting those right. As spindly as those petals look, it's amazing they are able to fold out at a nearly 90 degree angle and not break off. That alone is pretty darn impressive, but doing it consistently? Kind of mind blowing. I hope he sells the hell out of them. If he does end up making them in .45, I know I'll be buying a few boxes.

    • @tgs9740
      @tgs9740 Год назад +28

      Please do I'm really interested in how the 45 works out.

    • @Gangster88232
      @Gangster88232 Год назад

      Yeh, that world needs. More killing shit. Disgusting. Destroy your guns, you dont need them.

    • @carsonhunt4642
      @carsonhunt4642 Год назад +24

      Are they technically +p at that fps? Seems like decent recoil.
      Definitely want to pick a box up for my concealed carry.
      It’s weird because research shows the 124g jhp is actually best for 9mm, but this round says otherwise!

    • @nickhowatson4745
      @nickhowatson4745 Год назад +9

      @@carsonhunt4642 they look more like +p+

    • @koiyujo1543
      @koiyujo1543 Год назад +2

      Same here

  • @courtneyglenn1123
    @courtneyglenn1123 Год назад +75

    The flashlights were a cool idea to have better visibility of the gel. Here's an idea for you - use LED light strips under the gel so you don't lose your lighting

  • @tomhandel9176
    @tomhandel9176 Год назад +252

    That round needs to be pattened right away before someone steals the idea. Absolutely tremendous performance consistently, releases energy without overpenetrating.

    • @nukiesduke6868
      @nukiesduke6868 Год назад +6

      I mean awesome expansion and decent penetration is one thing, accuracy is a whole other thing.

    • @exgenica
      @exgenica Год назад +19

      @Will Swift In the USA a person has up to 1 year to submit a patent after public disclosure. However, the same is not true for non-US patents. You are correct that he (assuming he has not already filed internationally) has lost any patent protection in most other countries.

    • @costamarques3900
      @costamarques3900 Год назад

      The idea is not new. Have seen it couple decade ago at a gun channel that was shut down under Obama.

    • @pablot-r9402
      @pablot-r9402 Год назад

      Good for when you really gotta worry about your backstop situation, that hopefully it doesn't go through the intended target and into an unintended target, to be able to put rounds into the target with solid stopping power and "less lethal" penetration if the round passes through.

    • @sankaplays3098
      @sankaplays3098 Год назад +5

      @@exgenica Most other countries don't consume ammo like the US does, in fact, Im pretty sure you guys are the only ones that have a need for this ammo all over the world.

  • @GianmarioScotti
    @GianmarioScotti Год назад +300

    I hope Ballistic Machinist patented this design, because it's a quantum leap better than anything made so far. I am very impressed by the extreme expansion and consistency. Unbelievable.

    • @geesixnine
      @geesixnine Год назад +11

      I seriously second this and concur.

    • @UncleJDCarp
      @UncleJDCarp Год назад +9

      It was already patented by Lehigh Defense and has been around for 10 years. I have carried these rounds for years.

    • @phillhuddleston9445
      @phillhuddleston9445 Год назад +7

      I don't think the design itself is unique enough to patent but it is a great design that works as good as you could hope for. It is different that other similar designed bullets but close enough to be difficult to patent.

    • @vicroc4
      @vicroc4 Год назад +22

      @@UncleJDCarp Main difference is, this actually does what Lehigh only claims theirs do.

    • @arnauservaux3936
      @arnauservaux3936 Год назад +1

      This already existed and didn't work.

  • @shmoop357
    @shmoop357 Год назад +143

    when i started learning about bullets and hollowpoints, i hoped that someday we would have a hollowpoint that could expand to a full + shape without bending back, and it’s here!

    • @GianmarioScotti
      @GianmarioScotti Год назад +7

      I agree - with this design, the future has finally arrived.

    • @ASBO_LUTELY
      @ASBO_LUTELY Год назад +1

      Shap becomes shape with me, Magic Magic E!

    • @InGratitudeIam
      @InGratitudeIam Год назад +12

      Unfortunately, 8" of penetration in bare synthetic gel translates to 5.16" of penetration in 10% organic gel used in the FBI tests. Minimum penetration requirement is 12"

    • @Interdiction
      @Interdiction Год назад +6

      @@InGratitudeIam This round will penetrate human flesh and dump all of its energy into your criminal without the worry of a round going through .Win win

    • @camouflagepeacock6414
      @camouflagepeacock6414 Год назад +1

      Actually, not folding back slightly diminishes the penetration. 8" to 9" may not be enough penetration if going through an arm, hence the 12" to18" directive of the FBI.

  • @p_campbell
    @p_campbell Год назад +34

    I showed this to a friend who has been shot by a 9mm in the arm and one in the back , he said "that would have removed my arm and I'd be dead", very insane rds

    • @ttss5726
      @ttss5726 Год назад

      you friend doesnt know what he is talking about. 20 years of dealing with gun shot victims that WOULDNT have removed his arm. your friend is stretching reality farther then if goes in the real world

    • @mechadonia
      @mechadonia Год назад +5

      @@ttss5726 hyperbole my friend

    • @thatonedude2228
      @thatonedude2228 Год назад +2

      @@ttss5726 Wouldnt it damage nerves beyond repair and cause massive internal bleeding? So he probably would be dead, just not get the arm sperated

  • @taofledermaus
    @taofledermaus  Год назад +252

    Just a clarification. FBI gel standards are 12" to 18". While it falls short for a "normal" bullet, it's still like getting hit by a broadhead. I guess the question I have, if only goes half the depth of a human torso, isn't that wear the vitals are? It's worthy of debate.

    • @hanelyp1
      @hanelyp1 Год назад +24

      I doubt the 12" minimum accounts for how much this round expands, and the width of the wound cavity so produced.

    • @secretbassrigs
      @secretbassrigs Год назад +8

      thanks for covering Tim's story. he really has achieved the new American dream.

    • @lonewanderer3603
      @lonewanderer3603 Год назад +31

      Doesn't matter how much it expands in fat and muscle. It needs to get deep into the organs to be effective.

    • @umpatas5468
      @umpatas5468 Год назад +62

      @@lonewanderer3603 I tell you what if you get hit in any place with that round your blood pressure will plummet.

    • @umpatas5468
      @umpatas5468 Год назад +24

      @@hanelyp1 that's my thought as well. With those wings acting like a broadhead there's no reason to go deeper.

  • @modergav
    @modergav Год назад +217

    The Ballistic Machinist just made one of the best 9mm rounds I've ever seen. Dude is a legend.

    • @MrMikesMondoVideo
      @MrMikesMondoVideo Год назад +4

      What is your benchmark for "one of the best"? As a self-defense round, it's a poor performer, not even achieving minimum FBI penetration.

    • @Tyler-ts2ld
      @Tyler-ts2ld Год назад +2

      its a copy of the Lehigh Defense MET rounds, with his own twist thrown at it, which is nothing more than the grooves down the side being widened.

    • @hatfield1964
      @hatfield1964 Год назад +5

      Without real world testing I'd say your wrong. Besides light weight rounds out of handguns are notoriously bad man stoppers. Impressive water spray or clay expansion is a moot point. I've seen 38 special hollow base wadcutters reloaded backwards make astounding clay impressions. Doesn't make it a good defense round.

    • @modergav
      @modergav Год назад +3

      You guys took this comment way more serious than I ahahaha

    • @MrMikesMondoVideo
      @MrMikesMondoVideo Год назад +1

      @@hatfield1964 Correct, lightweight rounds are typically bad because they don't have the momentum necessary for adequate penetration; however, additional testing really isn't necessary as these won't even reach minimum FBI standard penetration depth of 12 in in ballistic gelatin.

  • @Eric-gi9kg
    @Eric-gi9kg Год назад +74

    I've been watching your channel for quite awhile...
    I have never seen a more consistent performance of a projectile. Just amazing.
    The brief history and investment he has made, and to produce a projectile that EXCEEDS over all others.
    WOW..
    VERY IMPRESSED

  • @demef758
    @demef758 3 месяца назад +6

    "An Oakland-style chronograph." LOL! That kind of humor alone is enough to get people to watch.

  • @Horus2Osiris
    @Horus2Osiris Год назад +50

    Meat-bloom flower... Wicked! Thoroughly impressive testing you two! Thank you for the demonstration rounds, Tim!

  • @vbnbnbxmnxfm
    @vbnbnbxmnxfm Год назад +163

    The reason chrono works better upside-down on that table is that the contrast of the round passing over the sensors is obvious, which is why you also use the white strips. The problem is not the chrono it's the sunlight. The light, when the device is upright is too much so it can't see the projectile. You could build a total cover for the device which would prevent errors and allow you to keep it upright.

    • @snowdogthewolf
      @snowdogthewolf Год назад +9

      That was my concern as well. Perhaps they can validate these velocities with a future video where they compare the data from a sideways-oriented chronograph to one properly positioned. If there are serious discrepancies between the test and control groups of that future video, then none of the velocity results rendered from this test are valid.
      As always, a fun and informative video.

    • @kennethboston8301
      @kennethboston8301 Год назад +6

      I made a lightweight frame using quarter inch PVC pipe. T put a black tablecloth over the top and sides of the frame. I set my chrono inside and it works perfect.

    • @gotindrachenhart
      @gotindrachenhart Год назад +3

      I have an older, similar (folding), model and it has a hard time on overcast days due to the low light. I also have issues whenever the lenses on the sensors get dirty.

    • @phillipbotha7920
      @phillipbotha7920 Год назад +6

      It's cheaper and more original just to turn it upside down

    • @jaydunbar7538
      @jaydunbar7538 Год назад +9

      @@snowdogthewolf it’s measuring the time between shadows, tipping it upside down changes nothing

  • @John-ir2zf
    @John-ir2zf Год назад +35

    The ballistic machinists business just got a huge influx of customers because of this amazing round !!!

  • @thomasdow701
    @thomasdow701 Год назад +49

    I'd love to see how the teeth on these rounds not only hold up against, but also damage bone in more advanced ballistic dummies! Love the content

    • @liberty9348
      @liberty9348 Год назад +15

      You can do what I did and buy some and test them. They're about $2 a round. You can buy just the projectile for $1 a round and load them yourself as well. To answer your question: The "pedals" actually have to tear apart from each other at the base. This spot is fairly thin and machined that way to allow this action. Once it tears and hits about the 90' point, it is very difficult (takes a lot of force) to bend them PAST the 90' point. The projectile is solid copper. What "seems" to happen when hitting "bone" in the advanced ballistic dummy is that it tumbles when one or more of the open pedals contacts "bone". I've had a couple where just the tip of the pedal/s will slightly bend when this happens. I carry them daily in both my Berretta 92A1 and Smith & Wesson MP 9 2.0 CORE ported. I spent a long time in the US Military. From my experience and knowledge, these projectiles are VERY effective. They produce a much larger wound channel and have not exited any target I have tested them against. I used to carry Hornady critical duty and defense rounds, as they were the "best" I've tested before these. Hope the info helps.

    • @vincedibona4687
      @vincedibona4687 10 месяцев назад +1

      *petals

    • @liberty9348
      @liberty9348 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@vincedibona4687 You got me. -2 spelling =]. Thanks

    • @tjfm59
      @tjfm59 5 месяцев назад

      watch some of the videos on his channel today. tim & some of the other test people did a gel, meat, 7 other material test. the meat was a pork shoulder with 2 shots. 1 meat alone the other meat & bone. busted through the bone an deflecting off the bone by about 90'. in .380 acp.

  • @nickdark7073
    @nickdark7073 Год назад +193

    Glad to see Tim is expanding his shop to make even more interesting and amazing projectiles

    • @JohnLloydScharf
      @JohnLloydScharf Год назад +5

      Grizzly Ammo made a .45 ACP version of this, but stopped producing them. I keep them in my HiPoint .45s for home defense, even though they are years old.

    • @Rottidog68
      @Rottidog68 Год назад +2

      Yes, his working is getting very 'expansive'. 🙃😎

    • @BallisticMachinist
      @BallisticMachinist Год назад +2

      We are working hard at it

    • @Rottidog68
      @Rottidog68 Год назад

      @@BallisticMachinist It's expanding greatly & keeping it all together, that's the trick.
      Is that a projectile machinists' dream or a business plan? 🤔

  • @chrisislas1838
    @chrisislas1838 Год назад +86

    Unbelievably amazing. Would love to see something like this for a 45. Good job on the demonstration. Decimated the block clay as if it were from a shotgun. Just straight up bad ass of a round, wow!

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  Год назад +4

      thanks Chris

    • @TheRealZJE313
      @TheRealZJE313 Год назад +5

      Yes for the KING 45 I just hope its not a light projectile

    • @ASBO_LUTELY
      @ASBO_LUTELY Год назад +2

      Lik becomes like with me, Magic Magic E!

    • @marionava661
      @marionava661 Год назад +2

      So bad they are not Legal in italy. My Springfield 1911 and Glock 21 would love them ;)

    • @UncleJDCarp
      @UncleJDCarp Год назад +3

      I have loaded this same bullet in my .45, .40, 9m, 100 for years. This guy is making his own version of the Lehigh Defense Maximum Expansion bullet - which has been out for 10 years.

  • @jeremyshackelford8080
    @jeremyshackelford8080 Год назад +31

    Tim's designs impress the heck out of me. His and Evan Perry's designs are pretty amazing

  • @jasminedraconis4630
    @jasminedraconis4630 9 месяцев назад +5

    okay so the gummy bear test impressed the heck out of me. it not only penmetrated and bloomed in bear one but still had enough speed and structural integrity to cross the airgap fully bloomed, then went through bear two fully bloomed, crossed the air gap and deep enough into bear three STILL bloomed to cause a potentially fatal wound. those petals are impressive! I want some lol

  • @bobjordan8283
    @bobjordan8283 Год назад +72

    All I can say is WOW!! I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that round!! Thanks for everything you do I know it takes a lot of time and I always appreciate the efforts you go to!!

  • @twicebaked7420
    @twicebaked7420 Год назад +79

    Man, that clay test was damned impressive for a 90 grain round.

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 Год назад +3

      @@virgilhilts3924 Very true, but the fact is that a soft clay block can still be used as an indicator of how good a projectile dumps its energy into its target.
      This particular round is able to generate so much "traction", if you can think of it in that borrowed term, that it creates a damn flower pot. Other rounds of similar weight often don't push away the clay as effectively and only get to "gutter pipe" size.

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 Год назад +5

      @@virgilhilts3924 Hey, a body isn't made from ballistics gel either, clear or not.
      The fact that the target is not _actually_ the same as a body doesn't mean it can't yield meaningful results _when comparing rounds._
      What one cannot do is to take the expansion in ballistics gel, or the expansion in clay, and assume that it will expand exactly the same in a body.
      But clay (or BG) *will* show which round is better at dumping energy, in comparison to each other round in the same type of clay.

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 Год назад +1

      @@virgilhilts3924 Shees, you want me to be more precise, and call it transfer of kinetic energy?
      I'll bow out. Be happy, you "win" this round Mr. Expert.
      (This channel isn't about being a good hunter, which as you correctly point out calls for good aim in the first place, but this channel is about how _bullets_ behave. It's not about how to properly aim, or where to aim.)

    • @jonny555ive
      @jonny555ive Год назад

      Agreed

    • @jonny555ive
      @jonny555ive Год назад

      @@virgilhilts3924
      What are you trying to prove there bud ?
      Or are you just getting off trolling this dude ?

  • @llewellynquay9463
    @llewellynquay9463 Год назад +54

    FYI, Some folks may not know that "Swiss" refers to a design, not a country of origin. Tsugami is a Japanese manufacturer, with some units built in a plant in China. It *is* a "Swiss Lathe", which unlike conventional lathes, "Swiss" turning centers have a moving headstock, i.e., they move the work in the z-axis as well as cutting in x and y axis'.

  • @TopShotDustin
    @TopShotDustin Год назад +17

    16:00 reminded me of the Indiana Jones tank scene with the Luger 😂

  • @salty__kansan
    @salty__kansan Год назад +100

    Those bullets looked freaking awesome in that clear gel. So much devastation from the interceptor.

  • @justineells9857
    @justineells9857 Год назад +126

    The difference between the 5" barrel and the 16" barrel wasn't as much as I expected. Makes me think they might perform well from shorter barrels too. Tim should send some to Paul Harrell too. I'd love to see what these do to the meat target.

    • @jodylivengood4061
      @jodylivengood4061 Год назад +11

      So this is what I think might be going on with that. The powder is being burned off at around the 8-10" mark. The rest of the barrel is then slowing the bullet down. I have a Beretta M9A1 with a threaded barrel just over 5". With the Corbon 125gr +p I'm getting about what's on the box. 1250fps. In my HK Sp5 with a 9" barrel I'm getting 1425fps. What you get from a 125gr .357mag from a 4" Barrel. To be honest I bought the HK because I thought it was cool and would be fun to have around. I live in a rural area so a AR15 for home protection isn't a bad choice. But after that I leave the HK loaded as well. My friend also as a AR 9MM of some sort but it is a rifle with a 14.5 pin and welded barrel. He's getting about 1325 with that same Corbon load. Anyway that's what I think is going on. ⁸

    • @justineells9857
      @justineells9857 Год назад +3

      Makes sense. They could be pairing a faster burning powder for such a lightweight bullet. That would still be useful in a short barrel, as long as there's still enough recoil to reliably cycle the action.

    • @charliedee9276
      @charliedee9276 Год назад

      The vid says the barrel was 19" not 16". I bring it up because I have an AR 9mm with a 16" barrel and the velocity is quite higher than out of my Beretta 92FS. I do believe once a barrel reaches a certain length velocity does drop off. I saw somewhere with a 9mm that length is around 12-14 inches. I would put a slightly shorter barrel however that puts me in the SBR category.

    • @KyussTheWalkingWorm
      @KyussTheWalkingWorm Год назад

      In rifle length barrels you tend to get a lot of mileage from running hotter ammo, because otherwise pressure drops too much and barrel friction actually makes you lose velocity past a certain point. You can go even higher if you use loads with slower powder, just be aware it'll lose performance in pistols.

    • @alphazuluz
      @alphazuluz Год назад

      Yeah this is clearly a case of a loader knowing what he’s doing. He’s using an appropriately fast burning powder to get max velocity out of short pistol barrels. When you use long but light solid copper bullets, usually you get best results with faster burning powders. So, if you graphed velocity per inch of barrel, what I would expect to see is that velocity increases as the barrel increases until around 8-12” or so, then the powder is spent, and friction between the bullet and barrel starts to win. I bet velocity increases until that 8-12” mark then slows from there.

  • @Kualinar
    @Kualinar Год назад +82

    That 9mm bullet does more damage to that clay than some 12 gauge slugs. That's VERY impressive.

  • @TheBeefSlayer
    @TheBeefSlayer Год назад +6

    23:40 “Tim I’m impressed . We got some pretty good shit here” 😂😂😂😂 for some reason my brain went to AL from Home Improvement doing blow. 😂😂😂

  • @JamesCallMeJayBoyFrazier
    @JamesCallMeJayBoyFrazier Год назад +145

    Jeff, turning hobbyists into ammunition producers. Props. Indirect bad guy stoppage. Danny would be proud.

    • @RaysTwoPence
      @RaysTwoPence Год назад

      Geoff 2000iq move lol 😆

    • @thomasdow701
      @thomasdow701 Год назад +3

      Well, bad guys use bullets too.. but that's definitely the hope

  • @yips_way
    @yips_way Год назад +123

    I'm in the UK so we're barely exposed to guns, if at all, in our entire lifetime, but even I was extremely impressed with those & the explanations from officer Gregg helped me understand why he liked them so much too. Good luck to the guy who made them, hope he gets back his investment, I think he will jjudging by the results shown here. Great video guys 👍

    • @tomnixon7892
      @tomnixon7892 Год назад +1

      Depends were u grow up I'm from Kent and have been around deer caliber rifles right up to shooting.50 stuff at Mendip shooting ground and there are flipping tons of ranges if your interested in the hobby go seek a local club most are clay pigeon shooting grounds but hit me up il send u some links for proper clubs I like bisley probly the widest variety of guns and disciplines there happy shooting fellow Brit 😀🧐

    • @Steve-bx2yx
      @Steve-bx2yx Год назад

      You need a revolution in the UK.

    • @sextempiric7137
      @sextempiric7137 Год назад

      I'd rather say: Bad luck, wishing he never make a single dollar wit it. Disgusting!!!

    • @MSL209
      @MSL209 Год назад +1

      I know a lot of us US folks talk shit on you UK folks regarding your gun laws. With that said, I feel for you guys.

    • @BullsMahunny
      @BullsMahunny Год назад

      @@sextempiric7137 I don't think anyone asked you, hoplophobe. As Sigmund Freud said, those who are afraid of weapons (you. DEFINITELY you) have stunted growth and other ..... mental issues.

  • @Ba11leFieldAce
    @Ba11leFieldAce Год назад +99

    That's probably the most devastating 9mm I've ever seen. Wound track looked more like a cluster of buckshot than a 9mm.

    • @the_royticus2429
      @the_royticus2429 Год назад

      Check out the Norma MHP

    • @TruthIsTheNewHate84
      @TruthIsTheNewHate84 Год назад +1

      @ASBO LUTELY
      Why are you replying to every comment with the same exact thing?

    • @inkyfingers317
      @inkyfingers317 Год назад +3

      @@TruthIsTheNewHate84 a bot im betting, i just keep reporting them

  • @everettplummer9725
    @everettplummer9725 6 месяцев назад +5

    Tim uses a common soft cooper rod for these bullets. They opened perfectly. If he used something like phosphor bronze, they would poison them too, causing an extreme amount of agony, which might lead to stopping the perp quickly. Too hard a cooper, and they would be too brittle, and snap. His machine design, is working perfectly with the materiald he is using. Love to see him lighten the round a bit. Close encounters, are the most common, fighting distances. At close range a light zinger round, doesn't lose that much stopping power.

  • @patrickaherne3598
    @patrickaherne3598 Год назад +7

    FBI BRF standard is 12-18" in calibrated 10% ordnance gelatin. Clear Ballistics is fun stuff, but typically overstates penetration compared to 10% calibrated gelatin.

  • @HamBown
    @HamBown Год назад +61

    Seeing sonoluminescence from the collapse of the cavitation bubbles in the high speed shots of the water jug is pretty awesome! I saw three flashes, with the largest being at 19:21

    • @MODElAIRPLANE100
      @MODElAIRPLANE100 Год назад +2

      Great catch!

    • @teresashinkansen9402
      @teresashinkansen9402 Год назад +5

      Sorry to ruin the mood but those are not sonoluminescence flashes, its actually the flashlight behind the jug used to illuminate it flickering. You can see how it turns off when the bullet hits the jug then it seems to want to turn on again.

    • @Assdafflabaff
      @Assdafflabaff Год назад +3

      @@teresashinkansen9402 Let mr. fancy words be smart.

    • @HamBown
      @HamBown Год назад

      @@teresashinkansen9402 I disagree, the flashes are too intense and short-lived to be flashlight reflections. They are also not the same colour temperature as the supposed source light.

    • @teresashinkansen9402
      @teresashinkansen9402 Год назад

      @@HamBown The flashlight is plenty powerful, you can see on top of the jug how bright it is, the reflection looks almost like sunshine. For sonoluminescence flashes to occur a sealed collapsing cavity must form, yet you can see there is not even a cavity formed, its not sealed at all and its still expanding, its water splattering around. Ive only seen such flashes happen on ballistics gel because it keeps the cavity shape, also its not proper sonoluminescence but a dieseling effect.

  • @newt2010
    @newt2010 Год назад +29

    Amazing ammo. I hope he does well and sells tons of them. The consistency in the chrono and the pedals is mind blowing.

    • @masterenos
      @masterenos Год назад

      Ammo like this doesn't sell like you think it does, there are consequences for using ammo like this in self defense.

    • @MeanestManAlive
      @MeanestManAlive Год назад

      @@masterenos pwnage

  • @scott1brayden2
    @scott1brayden2 Год назад +9

    Really be good to see the accuracy at further distance

  • @richdunn9726
    @richdunn9726 Год назад +238

    Impressive to be sure! Having said that, nothing was said about feed reliability. A great round becomes not so great if it doesn’t feed consistently without jamming. It would be great to see some rapid fire rounds through multiple magazines in different popular semi-auto models/brands.

    • @MrLanternland
      @MrLanternland Год назад +9

      Exactly what i was thinking.

    • @danramirez4290
      @danramirez4290 Год назад +5

      Good point!

    • @jamesroberts7262
      @jamesroberts7262 Год назад +2

      this..

    • @johnathanfarquhar1981
      @johnathanfarquhar1981 Год назад +9

      They don't have time or that many of the different types of firearms. As Jerry Miculek has said in his videos, you have to practice with what you want to carry, for reliabilty and cycling. It is okey to practice with ball ammo, but if you are going to carry a specific ammo you need to run it. Not all ammo will work in every gun. My glock can run pretty much anything, but critical defence. I think it is caused by the harsh angle of the slug.

    • @brandonmckittrick2822
      @brandonmckittrick2822 Год назад +4

      Good point! I would buy a box and test out the feed reliability in your personal carry pistol. If it works well purchase another box. I conceal carry a glock 43x, glocks will Definity shoot any kind of ammo brand. Im sure it will feed just fine in a glock.

  • @777anarchist
    @777anarchist Год назад +39

    I was expecting you to test it against soft body armour. I thought with the extra velocity it might have had a chance.
    Props on Tim making some weird but solid stuff. Great video as per usual!

    • @colbunkmust
      @colbunkmust Год назад +1

      The extra surface area as it expands would make the marginal extra velocity negated. .357 mag is higher velocity and has a heavier projectile but IIIA is rated to stop that. AP ammo is designed not to expand at all. It still would be interesting to see what would happen though.

    • @777anarchist
      @777anarchist Год назад

      @@colbunkmust Yes, but I don't expect it to expand in kevlar.

  • @BlackwaterFather
    @BlackwaterFather Год назад +41

    I'd like to see how it does out of a 3" barrel like most folks, especially in warmer t-shirt weather, tend to carry. I have a feeling the 124grain Federal HST round would still be on top. But again, I'd like to see shorter barrel testing to know for sure! Thanks for a great video for what seems to be a great round so far.

    • @rokkinjohann
      @rokkinjohann Год назад +3

      You bring to mind this question, "What is the expansion threshold for these bullets?" And its upper limit where petals shed off would be good to know also regarding use in .357 Sig or .38 Super.

  • @nancycook3733
    @nancycook3733 7 месяцев назад +1

    I tried the exact same thing 30+ yrs ago and doing it all by hand, a small file and hand chisel and a work bench it was not easy and no where near as perfect as what this gent has produced, but was trying for same effect, then I was asked to do a spiral or end result a claw type effect but again without the micrometer and special tools it did not go as planned, so kudoos to the gent who did accomplish this very very very daunting and hard to balance task ! Great job a d thanks for sharing

  • @wizzlefits
    @wizzlefits Год назад +17

    That was impressive! Perfect self defense ammo AND you can carry a LOT more. That's a win win lose!!!

  • @LittleBozo
    @LittleBozo Год назад +50

    This was my favorite bullet I've seen you guys test. The clay just blew me away! You gotta incorporate clay blocks into your normal routine plz

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  Год назад +9

      thanks!

    • @bryanst.martin7134
      @bryanst.martin7134 Год назад

      @@taofledermaus What was surprising is that you shot the same hole in the silly putty and it still expanded.

  • @drb5538
    @drb5538 Год назад +17

    Another great video as always with a good balance of information and humour. Also, another quality round from Tim. It's good to see him expanding.

  • @stoopingfalcon891
    @stoopingfalcon891 Год назад +4

    Apart from the intial penetration damage, the hydrostatic shock from the petals opening like that must be horrific.

  • @kingginger3335
    @kingginger3335 Год назад +33

    This round is unbelievable! Ballistic Machinist should be very proud of his work! People should buy as much of this ammo as possible! He should be rich for this design!

  • @markfergerson2145
    @markfergerson2145 Год назад +7

    Okay, that was a "just wow" product. They deserve to become the new gold standard in "stopping power" cartridges and a huge licensing contract from Winchester or somebody.

  • @HockeyPop29
    @HockeyPop29 Год назад +4

    Wow! You sold me! I purchased a 20 round box. That gives me a full mag for my 9mm relegated to home defense, with 2 rounds for my own watermelon and water filled pumpkin test! Great review!

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  Год назад +2

      I've loaded a mag for that Chiappa - it is actually reliable using these for home defense.

    • @HockeyPop29
      @HockeyPop29 Год назад

      My wife hopes down the line he comes out with a round for her .327 federal magnum - may be waiting awhile! I bought a Canik TP9SA years back to teach her to shoot. It's our nail-driving home defense weapon, she's scary good with that one, better than me.
      Keep the videos coming! Watching your channel helps keep me out of the doghouse from shooting up various household items myself!

  • @t3dwards13
    @t3dwards13 Год назад +2

    Less words = lower density... & that's what she said?!?!
    Pure gold!!!

  • @lukearts2954
    @lukearts2954 Год назад +9

    21:58 that went through the exact same hole! Sure, the distance wasn't 50 yards, but it still shows both accuracy of the projectile and marksmanship of the shooter! Very nice!

  • @-JohnSmith-
    @-JohnSmith- Год назад +5

    FBI penetration standard is 12" to 18" in ballistic gel this is to account for a hit to an arm outstretched like someone shooting at you or a sideways or odd angle to be able to still reach vitals. Hornady critical duty 135 gr +p is consistently 14" to 16" through various clothing.
    The hard lead is Also great for hard barriers like car doors or windshields.

  • @PacketWrangler
    @PacketWrangler Год назад +4

    Wow, impressive. Id love to see a Paul Harrel meat target test on these.

  • @MiGujack3
    @MiGujack3 Год назад +2

    Man, the doctor removing these will hate life after that.

  • @sixtofive
    @sixtofive Год назад +32

    Looks like results I've seen from the Lehigh Defense Maximum Expansion bullets. Very similar design, and the Lehigh in a 220 grain 45 caliber loaded for 45 Colt is just wicked!

    • @darrickcato9499
      @darrickcato9499 Год назад +2

      It looks exactly like the Lehigh

    • @scottmoore2014
      @scottmoore2014 Год назад +2

      He lost me when he said liberty defense are junk. Those Lehigh defense long colts were badass

    • @Power5
      @Power5 Год назад

      Same design, faster lighter version though. 9mm lehigh is quite a few bucks cheaper than this one. Has TD tested the lehigh?

  • @Isaac_5.56x45
    @Isaac_5.56x45 Год назад +8

    I believe these would be fantastic for an air marshall or someone living in a densely populated apartment building, especially in a PCC or sub gun. As for me with no crowds of people around, I'll keep my 147 grain 9mm JHP's.

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Год назад +1

      What's the advantage of a heavy round like 147?

    • @Isaac_5.56x45
      @Isaac_5.56x45 Год назад +6

      @@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 More penetration while also having the benefit of an expanding projectile for a larger wound cavity. I live in a cold climate where people wear an absurd amount of heavy clothing and are overweight. And I also want that extra bullet weight because I do have some medium sized animal threats in my area as well and want to ensure a deep enough shot.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Год назад

      Eh, I keep frangibles in my "home" mag for the 9mm, they're some of the Extreme Shock(tm) Air Freedom rounds. Kinda shallow penetration on gel, but they don't go through two sheets of drywall.
      Unfortunately, the company is either out of business or no longer making pistol caliber ammo.
      Outdoors magazines are HSTs.

  • @skiptrace4034
    @skiptrace4034 Год назад +18

    Switching up the release times to keep us on our feet. Love it

  • @brown2889
    @brown2889 Год назад +2

    Removing that in an ICU would be a nightmare.

  • @nominalvelocity
    @nominalvelocity Год назад +5

    Hope he can improve the cycle time on that lathe, I have a feeling he's gonna need to make more of those puppies.

  • @RETard-me4mj
    @RETard-me4mj Год назад +13

    I don't know how you guys manage to keep it fresh, funny, and informative in every new video, but you do! Thanks for another good time.

  • @thetoneknob4493
    @thetoneknob4493 Год назад +21

    i don't say this often at all but im impressed at how well these work! most exotic ammo looks cooler than it is wen function is called into question. but this ammo seems to do exactly what they are supposed to do. ide love to se a 45 auto+p or a 357mag in the future.this design seems to use its energy alot more successfully than standard hollow points.it seems for once its worth what they cost.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Год назад

      If you roll your own ammunition, you can buy these bullets and stuff them into a .357 case.

  • @upinarms79
    @upinarms79 Год назад +2

    Jeff, one of the things I've seen done to illuminate and help measure rounds in gel is using a laser pointer. Of course that won't do anything for the overall lighting while you're filming, but it does illuminate the rounds better in the gel, especially when you have multiple rounds close together, and it helps give you a measuring point from outside the gel without having to move the block around or cut it open.

  • @bubbajenkins123
    @bubbajenkins123 Год назад +13

    Glad to see that you brought back the MOIST magazines test. It has always been one of my favorites

  • @AviationJeremy
    @AviationJeremy Год назад +12

    I’d like to see more testing before I trust the interceptor with my life. That said, Tim has a lot of experience now with experimental projectiles, and clearly felt confident that this was good enough for (somewhat) mass production, and what I see here is very promising, so I have high hopes!

    • @AviationJeremy
      @AviationJeremy Год назад

      After the tests so far, I think that this definitely deserves mass production!

  • @justsomeperson5110
    @justsomeperson5110 Год назад +5

    Excellence in engineering! Count me impressed. Not only does it do what it says, but it exceeds! Something worth buying. I see great things in his future. He's going to need a bigger shop for all of those extra machines to keep up with the orders.

  • @Smallathe
    @Smallathe Год назад +18

    Very very cool story. Well done Tim!!!
    Contgratulations on the new business and best of luck with your new entrapaneuraship!
    Jeff and Gregg - very very cool shots. Wonderful use of flashlights with the gel block.
    A really wonderful video!!! :)

  • @alexkarlozi2174
    @alexkarlozi2174 Год назад +11

    Would love to see the 10mm performance. Double tap makes a 135gr JHP 10mm round that flies 1600 ft/s. I wonder if Tim’s 10mm interceptor round is similar to that

    • @tylermallory2504
      @tylermallory2504 Год назад +2

      They make great ammo, I really wish they would start loading the 285g A-max .338 lapua again. It was an absolute power house, Punched 3 holes in my 3/8 ar500 steel plate at 300 yards

    • @jpkalishek4586
      @jpkalishek4586 Год назад +1

      His site says plans are for a 10mm in 140gr

  • @jamesstewart9970
    @jamesstewart9970 Год назад +7

    Good on Tim! Glad to see people still pursuing their passion and it paying off in a big way.

  • @yussuqmadiq5274
    @yussuqmadiq5274 Год назад +2

    As a person working in a hospital, regular bullets are a pain in the ass. That would be a nightmare in a surgical perspective.

  • @kumoblade
    @kumoblade Год назад +28

    Wow. I'm incredibly impressed with these rounds. Fantastic job by The Ballistic Machinist. I hope this man makes a fortune off of these.

    • @frijoli9579
      @frijoli9579 Год назад

      Why?

    • @Srax499
      @Srax499 Год назад

      @@frijoli9579 because that's what he deserves.

    • @YouLookinAtMe-Bro
      @YouLookinAtMe-Bro Год назад

      @@frijoli9579 Because it's nice to have something better for self defense if you need it.

    • @SCAR16s
      @SCAR16s Год назад

      Someone is all ready making a fortune with these rounds, they are called Lehigh Defense where Ballistic Machinst copied their design.

    • @My.name.goes.here.
      @My.name.goes.here. Год назад

      @@SCAR16s Lehigh defense rounds are shaped like a Philips head screw driver and don’t look anything like these at all. I don’t really know how you can even compare them.

  • @gotindrachenhart
    @gotindrachenhart Год назад +20

    Pretty impressive. Please be sure to test the different calibers too guys. I'm really interested in this round when it goes to .45ACP. Also wonder if he'll put it in 12ga :)

    • @BallisticMachinist
      @BallisticMachinist Год назад +10

      We will make sure to send out the new calibers to Jeff. The 12ga expanding has always been on the board the design just hasn't worked yet. Still working on it

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Год назад +1

      @@BallisticMachinist looking forward to seeing them!
      Those 12ga Gatekeeper slugs are hard to find. A second source for massive controlled expansion would be nice.

    • @diapysik
      @diapysik Год назад +1

      @@BallisticMachinist Very interested in this round mate, great stuff.

    • @gotindrachenhart
      @gotindrachenhart Год назад

      @@BallisticMachinist AWESOME! Thanks for all the hard work man. Might have to pick up some of these for me and the Mrs.

  • @Leverguns50
    @Leverguns50 Год назад +6

    Awesome expansion for sure, I need some of those bullets

  • @RAIDENFAN2469
    @RAIDENFAN2469 Год назад +7

    Just came across this channel, you guys are amazing and have been going strong for years. I can't own a gun over here in England but learning all these facts and your relaxing narration has helped me fall asleep comfortably and stopped me panicking before. Keep up the good work, please!

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  Год назад

      thank you kindly!!

    • @johnafleenor2986
      @johnafleenor2986 8 месяцев назад

      @@taofledermaus I would definitely try this round if I could find where to purchase them. I typically use the 147gr HST 9mm hollow points, but would love to compare these 2 types of rounds side by side.

  • @aintit
    @aintit Год назад +7

    Absolutely insanely impressive ammo. I hope the word gets around and that he patents these things because they are 100% a first of their kind sort of deal and could be incredibly profitable for him. I remember when he first started sending in designs to be tested by you guys and it's crazy seeing how far he's come.

  • @tomsikes9064
    @tomsikes9064 Год назад +4

    Amazing! Well done Tim! Thanks TFM team, a great psa and video!

  • @MoldyStir-Fry
    @MoldyStir-Fry Год назад +12

    I would absolutely trust my protection to this ammo. Awesome design Tim, great testing Jeff and Gregg!

    • @SCAR16s
      @SCAR16s Год назад

      Not his design. He copied Lehigh Defese rounds that have been on market for years and years.

  • @eastoforion
    @eastoforion Год назад +2

    the clay block always impresses!

  • @KrazyMitchAdventures
    @KrazyMitchAdventures Год назад +5

    West Coast of Canada checking in early..

    • @Isaac_5.56x45
      @Isaac_5.56x45 Год назад +3

      Y'all need to get rid of Justin Castreau.
      Looking forward to seeing Biden get impeached sooner than later down here.

    • @ddt0889
      @ddt0889 Год назад +1

      Alberta here🖐🏼🍁🍻🌾

    • @KrazyMitchAdventures
      @KrazyMitchAdventures Год назад

      Canada doesn't have an impeach,
      He's broken the laws, and been caught breaking federal laws, which the average person would be doing 10+ years in a federal prison. the embezzling of funds for the "WE Charity" run by him & his whore I mean mother. The broken federal ethics laws, and becoming the first prime minister to have done so. Apr 26, 2022 - According to the documents, the RCMP concluded that the case has largely been made for an offence of fraud against the government by Mr. Trudeau.
      AND the violation of the Emergency Shelter act in November of 2022..
      The NEXT Election, he will once again WIN by a landslide and have a majority Government.. Because Canada's electoral system is even more fucked up than the USA.

    • @sharkey5150
      @sharkey5150 Год назад

      I feel awful for our Canadian Brothers. One of these days, I hope and pray, the USA is gonna get right helping the ones that need our help.

    • @KrazyMitchAdventures
      @KrazyMitchAdventures Год назад

      @@sharkey5150 The USA is kind of the reason we're in this situation. Every time there is a mass shooting in the USA, our Elected officials try to make it so it doesn't happen here. The gun garbage is long before Trudeau, he's just continuing the garbage Pierre Elliot started in the 80s. Trudeau is going about it backwards though..

  • @bubbajenkins123
    @bubbajenkins123 Год назад +4

    Hey Tim, can you make a version of this round in .45-70 govt?

  • @dalesimmons9687
    @dalesimmons9687 Год назад +10

    Maybe try setting the gel on plexiglass and lighting from below? I'd suggest getting LED work lights or photography/video lights so it's less likely (still check the heat specs!) to heat the gel up and change it's properties.

  • @Whitesp44
    @Whitesp44 Год назад +7

    Would be interesting to see the performance from the "short barreled" pistols. Everyone seems to love 'em. Seems like it would be fantastic as this video clearly shows. I'm sold. Love the scientific testing process as well. Men age, they don't grow up. Like two kids playing with firecrackers and toys. Awesome.

  • @Gunbudder
    @Gunbudder Год назад +5

    its just a straight up better frangible round. better in every aspect. its pretty rare to see an across the board improvement in ballistics like this, with no drawbacks. definitely getting some for home defense

  • @chevyinlinesix
    @chevyinlinesix Год назад +6

    Both the round and his purchase of a Swiss lathe to make the bullets is very impressive!

  • @hawkshadowoseanacy5171
    @hawkshadowoseanacy5171 Год назад +5

    Interesting how he's got, apparently, the optimal powder for this load for a handgun duty sized barrel. It would be interesting to find the length where the bullet begins to slow thw bullet from friction with the extra barrel length while the gasses are no linger expanding (which seems to be happening here).

    • @MB-jg4tr
      @MB-jg4tr Год назад

      For 9mm that's usually at around 16"

  • @jonathanfalvo2414
    @jonathanfalvo2414 Год назад +2

    “Oakland style” chronograph made me laugh

  • @-JohnSmith-
    @-JohnSmith- Год назад +8

    Best 9mm in real world scenarios in full sized pistols is Hornady Critical Duty 9mm +P 135 Grain.
    Best consistent deep expansion in clothing to hit vitals without over penetration, best hard barrier penetration due to hard lead composition👍🏼

    • @wilsonrawlin8547
      @wilsonrawlin8547 Год назад +2

      Lehigh/Underwood defender and Extreme defender are much better IMO. Truly barrier blind performance.

  • @wayne-oo
    @wayne-oo Год назад +9

    Looks like the best new 9mm round everyone must have !!

  • @joshpointoh
    @joshpointoh Год назад +4

    The price is great. It's totally worth grabbing a box of 20 and keeping a couple magazines of it on the nightstand.
    I can't imagine these would overpenetrate in the house.

    • @justinkase1360
      @justinkase1360 Год назад

      Most people miss in a self defense shooting and that's FAR more worrisome than "overpenetration". Normal 9mm HPs will be more reliably lethal and also not go through a suspect.

    • @zierlyn
      @zierlyn Год назад

      Actually, this is a great point and might make a great follow-up test. How many sheets of drywall will it penetrate?
      Two sheets of drywall would represent an interior wall, and if that is enough to slow one of these interceptors to non-lethal speeds it would be game-changing.
      Drywall, fiberglass insulation, and 1/2" plywood would be a good simulation of an exterior wall.

  • @brianhoffman5414
    @brianhoffman5414 Год назад +4

    I was impressed for sure, this seems to be an excellent choice for home and personal defense. I will be picking up a few boxes to check them out. Tx guys

  • @afreightdogslife
    @afreightdogslife Год назад +56

    I just stumbled into your channel, I am a 9mm shooter I liked what I saw.
    Your way to test a bullet is as unconventional as most of us are, so I subscribed.

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  Год назад +10

      Haha, yeah we try to keep it fun but also try different types of targets

    • @tlcollins2479
      @tlcollins2479 Год назад

      I subscribed as well and am a 9mm shooter.

    • @brown2889
      @brown2889 Год назад

      I tend to think they are having fun. Plus they are scientist so… there’s that.

  • @Driveby-Viktum
    @Driveby-Viktum Год назад +4

    After I saw these , my first thought was " those petals are WAY too long and unsupported, won't the bend on feed ramps?" I'm glad i was wrong and these are definitely impressive!

  • @linx.b5246
    @linx.b5246 Год назад +7

    Seriously efficient stopping power with permanent wound channel. Effective round, hopefully orders will pay for his machine tooling. Seriously talented guy, wishing him the best of luck. Hopefully people will be happy with your back stop. You guys have experience and know carry distance, armchair critics gotta love them.

    • @MrMikesMondoVideo
      @MrMikesMondoVideo Год назад

      It's interesting and creative, but by modern accepted standards, it is not an effective round for self-defense. I don't know why they stated 8" is the minimum for the FBI standard, but it's not. In fact, it's not even close.

  • @JamesCircello-fc9jk
    @JamesCircello-fc9jk Год назад +2

    Luv your Channel and the Interceptor rounds

  • @calvinwright5040
    @calvinwright5040 Год назад +12

    Might be the best 9mm ammo out there, I've never seen a round that effective. He definitely did a lot of testing to get that performance.

    • @Wiskeytango360
      @Wiskeytango360 Год назад

      These type ammo have feeding issues that’s the only problem

  • @johnmassa6303
    @johnmassa6303 Год назад +18

    Very impressive. This would be a better home defense round then most out there. Went through the bears real nice. Wonder what it would do in a short barrel like a 2.5 inch barrel.

    • @rileychu4489
      @rileychu4489 Год назад +1

      this is like using AP rounds for home defense. who breaking into your home, a pack of raptors? lmao

    • @jlebrech
      @jlebrech Год назад +2

      @@rileychu4489 one shot one kill/incapacitation that fella aint moving till the ambulance arrives.

  • @Billfish57
    @Billfish57 Год назад +7

    I always love your videos, it reminds me of all the testing I did 5 decades ago when I was learning how to shoot and blow stuff up.

  • @Thel_Vadamee
    @Thel_Vadamee Год назад +1

    "DOCTER DOCTER I'VE BEEN SHOT!"
    "ok let's get the bullet out"
    "HOLY SHIT"

  • @BobDiaz123
    @BobDiaz123 Год назад +5

    Very impressive and I love how it doesn't have over penetration. It would be interesting to see what it does to pork ribs with a slab of meat behind the ribs. With self defense, you want to stop the threat, not necessarily kill the attacker. I'll guess that this would take the fight out of most attackers, but I'm not sure how deadly it would be compared to a HP 9mm.

  • @tylerzmistowski5867
    @tylerzmistowski5867 Год назад +5

    Miss you Danny

  • @brandonzanzig3200
    @brandonzanzig3200 Год назад +10

    This is the most impressive 9mm I've seen in a very VERY long time. I've recently switched over to 10mm as my bedside/hiking pistol. Seeing this has me rethinking the pillow gun choice. I'm going to his website to pick some up now. Thanks fellas.
    P.s. I also see he has future plans for some heavier projectiles. I'm stoked for those.

  • @sailingmaster
    @sailingmaster Год назад +1

    Officer Greg, please let us know how the 10mm version performs if you get the chance to test them.

  • @heywardmorgan7699
    @heywardmorgan7699 Год назад +7

    It's definitely one of the most impressive rounds y'all have demonstrated. If Tim wanted an infomercial for this round, your video would no doubt be the best to sell it. I will have to say that I expected a little faster results out of the carbine over the pistol. However, both delivered much better results vs. Standard 9mm (9 mikemike for OG lol). Great video and information, as usual, from a great couple of guys. Have a great week, guys.

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  Год назад +3

      It always makes me happy to see a small company success, if I can help.