The person performing the kata is Kichinosuke Saigo, who also performs Heian Shodan in this video. Yoshitaka Funakoshi performs Heian Godan, Saigo became the first president of the JKA. The year is 1934 not 1924. The producers were in fact very sloppy in providing information on the clip. Yoshitaka Funakoshi did not come to Tokyo until 1932.
No way this is Gichin, I believe that he did not modify his stances to a lower kibad dachi till after the 1930's. This clip is someone of the Shotokan era, post 1935.
Lets not criticise any of these old clips. They are what they are and we should be glad to have them as a reference of the masters for reference and to and use in future times
@rosswoof Actually, in his autobiography, Funaikoshi writes about someone who saw him, Funakoshi, on a roof during the hurricane. Funakoshi then goes on to affirm that it was himself who was on the roof.
@mallardgreen If this is from 1924, Yoshitaka was born in 1906 and got his shodan in 1925, its probably one of O-Senseis earlier students such as Takeshi Shimoda.
If I remember well, in his book he included that hurricane episode, but it wasn't him. He saw a person doing it during a hurricane, and he mentioned it as an example of determination. But it wasn't Funakoshi.
Funakoshi became close friends with the founder of modern Judo, Jigoro Kano, after Funakoshi moved to Japan in early 1920s. Funakoshi borrowed both the use of colored belts to indicate rank and the wearing of the gi from Judo. This video actually looks like it might be Funakoshi's son, Yoshitaka.
The chapter begins - "Perhaps it would be more modest to let another person describe one's youthful feats than to do so oneself... I shall here quote the words of Yukio Togawa" Funakoshi then says, "The reader may see a touch of madness but I have no regrets." He then goes on to relate the words of Togawa, as he (Togawa) describes seeing Funakoshi stand against the typhoon. So would sir like salt with that hat? ;-) But all just in fun Ross. :-)
u havent? then u havent seen much...because i didn't see a well perfomed Empi and it«s hard to believe that this is Sensei Funakoshi..or maybe he just did it like this and nowadays it's made differently..
Oh I knew that guy. He went to the dentist to have a tooth pulled. The dentist asked if he wanted novocain to numb the pain - the guy refused - he wanted to transcend dental medication! ;-)
Enpi is spelled with two kanji. The Kanji can be romanized correctly as enpi or empi. Karate Do Kyohan spells it with an "m" The same is true with Jitte which we sometimes see as Jutte. Japanese is not spelled with an alphabet.
@brucejonesful Read Harry Cook's "Shotokan: A Precise History" very good book. The only known conflict Funakoshi had was with Shorin-Ryu teacher Choki Motobu. No, Funakoshi never fought anyone notable, especially in mainland Japan. He was respected because of his special audience with Prince Hirohito, when he demonstrated Karate for him (first in Okinawa then again in Tokyo).
Some of sensei funakoshi´s students have reported his ability to block karate stikes while sleeping when he was around 80. Of course this is utter nonsense, but it shows what strange effects the admiration of a master can have.
@thebringerofjustic Incorrect. Mas Oyama created Kyokushinkai. Shotokan is Funakoshi's art. To say different against all the historical and documented evidence is ludicrous and you'd better have some good evidence to back it up.
Karate isn't "just a fight". People that thinks of karate just as a way to show "I hit harder than you" can't understand the philosophy behind this Martial ART. Hitting harder than someone doesn't make you a karateka...to do karate you don't nedd someone else to fight, yourself is enough... know what you're talking about, before speaking
building character was Funikoshi's Ultimate tempted. is it the ultimate aim? thats debatable. not everyone in Shotokan would completely agree with it. different teachers have had different points of view on it. i dont think its wrong either. way. ppl treat ppl badly because they do thats called human nature. using ones skill depends on the situation and who looks at it. if japan would have won no one would have cared. but that doesnt make shotokan bad as a whole. thats individual bases.
you are assuming i think karate is a end all or that some master is supreme. I enjoy history of the masters and styles but what they did or what they are known for doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. the title of masters is a sign of respect, which i don't think is a bad things as long as you don't worship a guy. but either or not people worship a master matters very little to me because its doesn't effect my training in karate, kung fu, and silat.
what the hell does that have to do with the price of cheese in denmark? who they were associated with does not detract from a system. one personal or moral outlook on life has nothing to do with one ability to fight. secondly shotokan was not created as a form of gymnastics. it original concept was to bring together two schools of thought in Okinawa Naha-te, Shuri-te.
first off Te is only part of karate, its not the whole. Kempo or Kara Te/chinese hand is what you keep talking about. Te was incomplete so the Okinawan's added chuan fa. once again ones character does not dictate ones ability to fight. martial arts... art of war... their ethical or moral short comings have no barring on their fighting ability. now in your language. the flowers bloom and dog cries. pretty language does not change the flow of a raging river.
nationalism was incorporated in to everything in japan in ww2. its kind of hard to put blame on them for their humanity. Power and influence has huge power over even the greatest of people. even the greats of intent can go very astray. every style has some level of spirituality and morality in it as some point. even the silat styles who are PURE combat have a moral and spiritual aspect to their training. if you are face your death you want some moral or spiritual purpose behind it.
Character is not fighting skill. Character speaks of a culture. culture is a different topic for a different video. Most historians do admire the Nazis tactics in WW2. it was military genius. now ethically they were evil and should not be admired, but every super power in the world took their ideas on military combat. but once again what does moral short comings have to do with the self defense readiness of a karateka? we are talking about Karate right not morals?
why isnt there one single style of karate? why isnt there one single style of kung fu? simple each style is a interpratation of fighting. shotokan is as much karate as Goju. they are just differing opinions on how and what karate is. secondly karate do is what funikoshi called it. empty hand way. he focused on Do aspect of karate. but his system has made good fighters. now was Funikoshi's way of teaching boring as hell? HELL YA it was, but it was his way of karate. there is no one right way.
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The person performing the kata is Kichinosuke Saigo, who also performs Heian Shodan in this video. Yoshitaka Funakoshi performs Heian Godan, Saigo became the first president of the JKA. The year is 1934 not 1924. The producers were in fact very sloppy in providing information on the clip. Yoshitaka Funakoshi did not come to Tokyo until 1932.
even if the video is blurry i can still see that gichin's execution of enpi is perfect(of course he's the founder of shotokan karate)
No way this is Gichin, I believe that he did not modify his stances to a lower kibad dachi till after the 1930's. This clip is someone of the Shotokan era, post 1935.
Wow.. I wish I could see him in action, that would be an amazing honour. Great respect sensei, oss :)
Lets not criticise any of these old clips. They are what they are and we should be glad to have them as a reference of the masters for reference and to and use in future times
Very clean sharp movements. Great form. There arent many martial artists like that anymore.
@rosswoof Actually, in his autobiography, Funaikoshi writes about someone who saw him, Funakoshi, on a roof during the hurricane. Funakoshi then goes on to affirm that it was himself who was on the roof.
great! Thanks for this video!
@stegxstar I'm glad someone said it. It's one of my favorites too.
@mallardgreen If this is from 1924, Yoshitaka was born in 1906 and got his shodan in 1925, its probably one of O-Senseis earlier students such as Takeshi Shimoda.
Actually, Funakoshi's biography describes Funakoshi himself standing in Kiba dachi against a typhoon, as related by Mr Togawa.
plz help me is there eny video of sensei nakayama doing kata sandan if u know aabaut 1 plz respond my comment and send me the link
Super.
Best thanks.
おっす.
If I remember well, in his book he included that hurricane episode, but it wasn't him. He saw a person doing it during a hurricane, and he mentioned it as an example of determination. But it wasn't Funakoshi.
Funakoshi became close friends with the founder of modern Judo, Jigoro Kano, after Funakoshi moved to Japan in early 1920s. Funakoshi borrowed both the use of colored belts to indicate rank and the wearing of the gi from Judo. This video actually looks like it might be Funakoshi's son, Yoshitaka.
0:36 wow he can fly D:!! great kata
so much power!
The chapter begins - "Perhaps it would be more modest to let another person describe one's youthful feats than to do so oneself... I shall here quote the words of Yukio Togawa" Funakoshi then says, "The reader may see a touch of madness but I have no regrets." He then goes on to relate the words of Togawa, as he (Togawa) describes seeing Funakoshi stand against the typhoon.
So would sir like salt with that hat? ;-)
But all just in fun Ross. :-)
how did he get the tape??? can't believe it
No, its written in kanji, hiragana or katakana. Osu or Oss is just a phonetic translation of the word. If when read it sounds correct, then it is.
oss senseii!
u havent? then u havent seen much...because i didn't see a well perfomed Empi and it«s hard to believe that this is Sensei Funakoshi..or maybe he just did it like this and nowadays it's made differently..
Oh I knew that guy. He went to the dentist to have a tooth pulled. The dentist asked if he wanted novocain to numb the pain - the guy refused - he wanted to transcend dental medication! ;-)
nice respect funakoshi
Can anyone tell me about the confrontation between Funakoshi sensei and Motobu sensei?
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oss sensei, domo, domo arigatou gozai mashita
very very cool video !!! from Russia
he does look a bit tall compared to the other pics n footage of him
it's not Funakoshi, before 40's, there had no jumps in the katas
Enpi is spelled with two kanji. The Kanji can be romanized correctly as enpi or empi. Karate Do Kyohan spells it with an "m" The same is true with Jitte which we sometimes see as Jutte. Japanese is not spelled with an alphabet.
@brucejonesful Read Harry Cook's "Shotokan: A Precise History" very good book. The only known conflict Funakoshi had was with Shorin-Ryu teacher Choki Motobu. No, Funakoshi never fought anyone notable, especially in mainland Japan. He was respected because of his special audience with Prince Hirohito, when he demonstrated Karate for him (first in Okinawa then again in Tokyo).
OSS !
Some of sensei funakoshi´s students have reported his ability to block karate stikes while sleeping when he was around 80. Of course this is utter nonsense, but it shows what strange effects the admiration of a master can have.
I am really sorry to have to correct you, but it's written "Osu".
Same to johnkings004.
Osu!
he's not funakoshi but it's very good
Yeah the first video was in 1951 meaning there was no video when this was supposedly recorded
This looks like Giko Funakoshi ? anybody else think this ?
@thebringerofjustic Incorrect. Mas Oyama created Kyokushinkai. Shotokan is Funakoshi's art. To say different against all the historical and documented evidence is ludicrous and you'd better have some good evidence to back it up.
Karate isn't "just a fight". People that thinks of karate just as a way to show "I hit harder than you" can't understand the philosophy behind this Martial ART.
Hitting harder than someone doesn't make you a karateka...to do karate you don't nedd someone else to fight, yourself is enough...
know what you're talking about, before speaking
Stances are way too low for 1924.
Y’all it’s not him 😐 you really believe this was recorded in 1920s!!!
building character was Funikoshi's Ultimate tempted. is it the ultimate aim? thats debatable. not everyone in Shotokan would completely agree with it. different teachers have had different points of view on it. i dont think its wrong either. way. ppl treat ppl badly because they do thats called human nature. using ones skill depends on the situation and who looks at it. if japan would have won no one would have cared. but that doesnt make shotokan bad as a whole. thats individual bases.
you are assuming i think karate is a end all or that some master is supreme. I enjoy history of the masters and styles but what they did or what they are known for doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. the title of masters is a sign of respect, which i don't think is a bad things as long as you don't worship a guy. but either or not people worship a master matters very little to me because its doesn't effect my training in karate, kung fu, and silat.
Ja moin
yeah lol :P
what the hell does that have to do with the price of cheese in denmark? who they were associated with does not detract from a system. one personal or moral outlook on life has nothing to do with one ability to fight. secondly shotokan was not created as a form of gymnastics. it original concept was to bring together two schools of thought in Okinawa Naha-te, Shuri-te.
Osu
first off Te is only part of karate, its not the whole. Kempo or Kara Te/chinese hand is what you keep talking about. Te was incomplete so the Okinawan's added chuan fa. once again ones character does not dictate ones ability to fight. martial arts... art of war... their ethical or moral short comings have no barring on their fighting ability. now in your language. the flowers bloom and dog cries. pretty language does not change the flow of a raging river.
nationalism was incorporated in to everything in japan in ww2. its kind of hard to put blame on them for their humanity. Power and influence has huge power over even the greatest of people. even the greats of intent can go very astray. every style has some level of spirituality and morality in it as some point. even the silat styles who are PURE combat have a moral and spiritual aspect to their training. if you are face your death you want some moral or spiritual purpose behind it.
Character is not fighting skill. Character speaks of a culture. culture is a different topic for a different video. Most historians do admire the Nazis tactics in WW2. it was military genius. now ethically they were evil and should not be admired, but every super power in the world took their ideas on military combat. but once again what does moral short comings have to do with the self defense readiness of a karateka? we are talking about Karate right not morals?
why isnt there one single style of karate? why isnt there one single style of kung fu? simple each style is a interpratation of fighting. shotokan is as much karate as Goju. they are just differing opinions on how and what karate is. secondly karate do is what funikoshi called it. empty hand way. he focused on Do aspect of karate. but his system has made good fighters. now was Funikoshi's way of teaching boring as hell? HELL YA it was, but it was his way of karate. there is no one right way.
OSS!