Riley Strain case: Forensic experts say ‘more to be investigated’ | Vargas Reports
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- Опубликовано: 27 мар 2024
- Dr. Michelle Dupre, founder of the Forensic Consulting Network, and Joseph Scott Morgan, forensic analyst and host of the “Body Bags” podcast, joined “Elizabeth Vargas Reports” on Thursday to weigh in on the investigation of 22-year-old Missouri student Riley Strain.
“I think maybe we’re a little premature in this right now,” Dupre said. “There’s more to be investigated."
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JUSTICE FOR RILEY.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
No mention of his pants, boots and wallet were revealed in the press conference, following the discovery of Riley's body. I'm really glad the family is getting another autopsy performed. Something doesn't feel right about what happened to him. Poor guy 😢
Makes me wonder by not disclosing this new info publicly if they’re trying to keep a squeaky clean image to not lose tourism? I don’t think it’s so much that this case seems strange, it’s the way the Nashville police have handled it, or lack there of
We are good for that in Nashville. Shift blaming etc.
Since Mr. Strain was from another State than where his
disappearance was reported, the FBI
automatically should have investigated.
Again, he was a victim of the illegitimate reserved powers to the people unrespectively to
compromise
enumerated rights- of which it seems
he was conscious to decline to get help
from the two jail
deputies who saw him sitting by the
Parkway bridge trying to put back on his shirt, after somebody accosted him near the sign
before the underpass.
In Texas I heard sex trafficking victims are set up at clubs to make it look like there is a disturbance fight in the club and then men show up to kick the person out of the club. Leaving the person alone. Nashville is a hub to drugs and trafficking very related to Texas and is known for trafficking hub. It's also one of the most corrupt states , there was recently allegations from several former police who sounded the alarm on a crime conspiracy by Law enfrmenctm . Please look into this.
Right and after 11 days his body , if someone beat him . Wouldn’t show any bruising. And why did they not say how he was found ?? 🥲
There’s definitely more to be investigated.
Please get more information on Riley’s passing. I know his parents have a second autopsy scheduled.
Toxicology takes 4-6 weeks.
This is beyond heartbreaking 💔 Sending prayers and strength to his parents 🙏🏽
So did they fined him
@@dorothyhurd3147yes they found him with no pants wallet or his cowboy boots
@@dorothyhurd3147Yeah bud 6 days ago in the river.
Sad ty
In Texas I heard sex trafficking victims are set up at clubs to make it look like there is a disturbance fight in the club and then men show up to kick the person out of the club. Leaving the person alone. Nashville is a hub to drugs and trafficking very related to Texas and is known for trafficking hub. It's also one of the most corrupt states , there was recently allegations from several former police who sounded the alarm on a crime conspiracy by Law enfrmenctm . Please look into this.
The other 2 bodies pulled out of the same river before him had all their clothes on, in the same current…probably in there a lot longer than he was. They described the Hispanic man that they found and he had pants and puma shoes on
Good point 💯
Exactly!!!
that doesnt mean anything. where riley traveled with the currents is different from where these men were traveling each body is exposed to different bumps and moves along the way.
yes three bodies in two weeks but no foul play ever i think they need to investigate better
Plus he only went 8 miles down. So it couldn’t have been that fast.
And police still claim there was no foul play. Okay bro
boots are hard to get off. more questions and why they sort of diss them, too.
I agree with you both ✌️
@@tommas2674no they arent, stop making up stuff to fit the story you want to read
I live in Nashville and the police/mayor's office is just protecting their tourism. He was probably killed by our large drug using homeless population which everyone with a brain knows are always looking for something they can turn into drugs.
I'm a retired Trauma/ER RN. I'm wondering how he has no signs of trauma after falling on a rocky river bank or hitting the water at a high rate of speed. I understand officials are saying no GSW, stabbing, etc, but his poor body must've taken a beating falling into that river 😢😢. I grew up near rivers, those currents are treacherous as are the banks. I'm so very sad poor Riley was shown on those videos as impaired as he was. What a heartbreaking picture for his family to endure. So sad and completely preventable. I went to college near the Red River of the North in ND, we knew as students never go near it, those currents are deadly. 🙏 and heartbroken 💔 for his family and friends. I was in a Sorority and knew Frat guys...we partied like crazy but knew our boundaries...still to this day I don't believe anyone fell into that scary river. Bless Riley and his family ❤️
Nashville police coming off as totally incompetent. Why aren’t there cameras all along the river?
right? it's a major tourist corridor on and off the water.
-exactly !-
More cameras? Why not just make a law every person has to live stream thier whole life? Everyone has to be watched all the time. Real black mirror stuff.
I remember when we first started hearing about this, that there were no camera there to protect the privacy of the homeless that had a camp in that area
In Texas I heard sex trafficking victims are set up at clubs to make it look like there is a disturbance fight in the club and then men show up to kick the person out of the club. Leaving the person alone. Nashville is a hub to drugs and trafficking very related to Texas and is known for trafficking hub. It's also one of the most corrupt states , there was recently allegations from several former police who sounded the alarm on a crime conspiracy by Law enfrmenctm . Please look into this.
I wanna know why the last video has never been released. It probably tells everything and they are just scared it will harm the tourism!
The video is him past the bridge talking on the phone.
Wondering the same why isn't the last vid released. The only explanation is Riley might have been caught in something embarrassing that only the family should see. Just my guess. Maybe something the family doesn't want released.
@@othellewis8931 Well if that's the case it must not show what happened with them willing to pay for their own autopsy.
@@RonTDB and I don't blame them. It might just be that he was crying, or their way to only show the grieving parents the final vid of their son. Maybe LE thinks it fits their no foul play scenario. I am surprised it hasn't been released to be honest. I think with the new details it is best they do get a 2nd autopsy. I saw in some comments when the searches were taking place he had a wad of cash on his person. Witnesses would need to step forward to confirm if this was true.
No one has said he was in that water for two weeks !!! What if he wasn’t ??
I’m glad he’s troubled by them saying it’s not suspicious !
This is definitely a criminal case !
I don't think he went into the water by accident or intentionally. I think someone did something to him then tossed him in the river.
Bank card found on water bank. And the water he was found in was WHERE in relation to the bank card? No water in lungs could clearly mean he was dead BEFORE entering the water. - Why spend so much time looking for him if you don't care to know how he died?
The family had to bring in outside help to look for him.
Many prayers for this young man and his family. So glad his family is getting second opinion. His father and stepfather will not stop til they know the truth. Riley was harmed and the truth will come out. Tourism be damned.
According to the Cleveland Clinic, "dry drowning" has occurred in only 10%-15% of drownings, and is "acutely rare." According to Cedars Sinai, "Risk of death from this type of submersion injury in the absence of loss of consciousness at the scene would be exceedingly low compared with death from an actual, real-time drowning." And this is very interesting per dry-drowning... according to the New England Journal of Medicine, "In most people, the laryngospasm relaxes sometime after unconsciousness due to hypoxia in the larynx, and water can then enter the lungs, causing a 'wet drowning.' However, about 7-10% of people maintain this seal until cardiac arrest." So after 2 weeks in the river, had he dry-drowned, water would have still entered his lungs, or he would have had a heart attack right after he went in. His autopsy showed no cardiac arrest, as far as we've been told thus far. I don't think youtube allows source links in comments, but all this can be found here online. And according to folks who work in those Nashville bars, the bars have become a clown-show, and the surrounding area at night is a dangerous sh$t-show.
In another study it only occurred 2% of the time.
Strong work, thanks for your info!
This case haunts me. I have cried for Riley as if he was my own son. He looks like he was a really nice guy. I totally believe someone killed this poor kid.
I Absolutely Agree.
I Have Lost Sooo much Sleep over worrying The Murderers Do Not Get Away w. it.
Same. Don't know what it is about this cases, most other cases don't bother me. I think about him in my sleep. Something's not right.
If a missing young female had been found in the river with no pants, they'd be looking for a killer.
Not just no pants but no cowboy boots, which are very difficult to remove in any case, let alone when alone and drunk. Someone found him passed out and robbed him, threw him in the river.
Facts
@@78cunobelin and what exactly was he robbed for? he wasnt carrying a lot of cash. and his phone would've been traced/found by now. Did someone really want size 15 cowboy boots that badly to kill for them?
@@bbloodyangel1well until they try to rob him they don’t know what he has ? What does your comment even mean ? Who knows there are people robbed and killed for a lousy 20 dollars? They may have thought he had cash which he may have how do you know what he had on him ? Also you know how hard it would be to get wet jeans off when you’re drunk and in the river ? That didn’t happen
@@KristyRN do you know how a body decomposes? his skin was falling off him, nevermind the boots. he was there 14 days underwater floating with currents/getting caught on things. its really not that shocking the boots were missing.
I smell homicide. He was not alive when he was tossed in the river.
And you could be right! Odd that his pants and boots missing, his shirt still on
Did they find his phone? The text that he sent with the strange dialect, is that sent by the killer? Why is no one asking these questions? His family needs to hire a private investigator asap!
private investigator exactly
The text doesn’t seem that suspicious to me, honestly. The rest of the case does, definitely, but not the text. His gf had asked something like “how is the trip going, are you having fun?” And he replied “good lops” which just seems like a typo of “good, lots” or “good lol” to me.
Lops means a disabled person
What strange dialect? He said " good lops"... good lost. Mystery solved.
@@user-cq3ye4td6rlost. He meant LOST.
good lops.
good lost.
He was dead before he went in the water
I think something happened to him. Something is not adding up
Stop with the conspiracy stuff. It's like you people HOPE he was murdered just so you can solve a mystery.
I believe he fell off the ledge and knocked himself out. I believe his bank card was in his shirt pocket and fell out when he fell. I think he rolled into the water and sank and when he came to, he was disoriented and dry drowned. The Cumberland has very strong currents and its full of debris, very likely it pulled off his boots and pants yes.
@@DrSpoculusbecause theirs not anything else going on, like this doesn’t happen everyday. All day. 🙄
@@DrSpoculusI think it was probably a tragic accident, but it may be murder and wouldnt you like to know that person or persons were caught
Dry drowning usually happens to children much more to adults. There are also usually other kinds of fluids found in the lungs in dry drowning. Also, with the boots and pants coming off, he was wearing a button down shirt. I would think that would come off before straight legs jeans.
Yes. Agree
Thank you!!!
This is so sad. Praying for the family and friends of this young man.
Someone needs to take this seriously! I for one will never be visiting this state.
Did they study the bugs? Do we actually know he was in the water for 2 weeks? And also someone with a belt on and cowboy boots it's very weird that they're saying both of those things are easy to get off. A shirt would have come off a lot easier than some cowboy boots they're not just slip on cowboy boots. Cowboy boots are difficult to get on and to get off. Also they probably don't know about the belt because they packed up his belongings from the hotel and so who could say if he was wearing one or not. Have they tested by actual microscopic slides to see how long he was decomposing? And this lady has the definition of dry drowning all wrong. So basically she's saying his throat may have spasmed for 5 to 7 minutes and he suffocated in the water but didn't take one gulp of water into his lungs. That's not even possible. I AGREE will getting another autopsy. If the city conducted the search like they did the autopsy then yes ma'am I would get another one done. I'm EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED that this lady describes a literal term with a definition in some kind of crazy way. Wow. I'm literally stunned. And yes I work in the death industry. She needs to get a dictionary or Google some stuff before getting on TV.
We clearly see what side of the narrative she is on. And it’s not the same side as his parents. She can’t be that dumb
Isn’t a dry drowning where you aspirate water and then die from it after you get out ?
She was Probably Paid off.
Exactly and if I remember "drink safe technology " They said the drugs in the date rape drug category don't last long. That's how the bartenders picking hits for targets all get away with the crimes. Can be males too. No word from the frat guys. Have they been silenced. Other bar patrons and what other bar. No!!! Where are the FBI. A young educated man does not have this happen simply. No. He was set up. Or something. Big money in town . Why was his debit out of his wallet. Cell phone calls and messages can be retrieved with out the phone from the provider. Their must be cameras along the river or traffic cameras or parked cars have dash cams some 24 hours activated by movement. Every building on the roof or private Patios and balconies in my city and out apartment windows all may have camera footage. Knock on doors. Walk every inch but too why so long to check the barge and other river docks and boats. Boats have cameras too fir security. This doesn't add up. The river must be busy. Time for an independent legal team which it sounds the family now has. Maybe those that searched can set up a go fund me for the family to help them deal with the expenses. They've been through enough and they need people in the area to help them to be strong at thus incredibltmy heartbreaking challenging time. ❤
She definitely is very misleading on dry drowning ! I felt like she totally is trying to get people to believe that's what happened ! Something seems awfully fishy.
We all have problem with this. What are they thinking? Not thinking 🤔
Also Riley's debit card was found on the river bank along with his pants and boots being missing is suspcious.
Underwear? Did they come off? I doubt it. Don't forget the card that was down on rocks found seperately. Something happened to him other than drowning. The signs are everywhere. Plus the truck had been broken into right near him. I guess no one broke into the truck either???
It was posted with no underwear or socks were found.
Remember the red truck supposedly sighted in Summer Wells case as well maybe this red truck is a hoax to lure the innocent I saw the busted back glass from the cops footage what a coincidence
i heard he had his underwear and socks on tho i'll have to find the article
Yep whoever broke out that window in that red truck in body cam vid could have been same person who possibly assaulted, robbed & killed Riley. It will be interesting to see if his body was in the water the whole time. And news post tonight just said family has big news next week to share. They don't want to say anything now due to Riley's funeral tomorrow.
Crime going on in the area, broken glass on the truck, homeless camp where certainly some people are drug’s addicts, no wallet, no pants, no boots, no water in the lungs; no foul play??? Really?? Poor young man, he was murdered!
Noooo way could those boots slide off!! Pants would have been over the boots! Boots are hard to get off when you are just sitting down trying to get them off!
Exactly...those boots would not just come off
look up the decomposition process. his SKIN was sliding off his body, nevermind the boots. You people need to stop.
You're assuming he was wearing tight fitting boots.
Jeans would’ve been inside the boots if he was wearing skinny jeans like some comments are saying. I need to go back and watch the videos of him walking to see what kind of jeans and if they were inside or outside of his boots.
@DrSpoculus True...plus decomp is slower in colder water. Having a young family member murdered may cause me to see things a bit different than others too. 😟 Riley was found in the water but that does not mean his body was there the whole time he was missing....could have been though
Come. On. Poeple. Quit. Making. Excuses. The. Boy. Was. Muered
Stop spreading false information. You HOPE he was murdered. That's sick.
AGREED.
Sick of Police Covering it up For Tourism.
Hope Riley’s Parents
Hire a Private investigator.
Honest question. Why do you care? There's 7,000+ deaths in US everyday and about 60 of those are homicides. What is it about this death that's caused you to comment?
Check the watch!!! It can tell if his vitals stopped before or after he got in the water. Once you are in the water, the watch records it as swimming.
Intoxicated tourist in crime-ridden big city = easy target for lurking predators. It happens a lot. Why are some not open to that possibility? The truth needs to be known.
Why are you hoping he was murdered just so you can solve a mystery? It's weird, the people who want him to have been murdered instead of drowning from a mistake.
Nothing points to murder except your ignorance of how things work. You aren't informed so you think things don't make sense.
His skin was "sliding off" as the autopsy stated. The boots and jeans would not be expected to be on him at that point.
@DrSpoculus, where can you read the autopsy?
Agreed.
@@DrSpoculusHis pants and boots slid off but his shirt stayed on? That doesn't make sense. They find skeletons still wearing their clothes. Those pants and boots wouldn't just come off.
Where is the belt? I find it hard to believe the belt fell off.
Nashville cover-up to protect their tourist business and to cover up a bad decision to allow a homeless encampment. In a tourist area.
Exactly 😢
My thoughts exactly. I fully believe this young man was murdered. Very sad.
@@cynthiaparris7549I believe that he was murdered too. This whole situation is shady.
@@jessicaanderson7885 Yes something is very fishy. I feel so bad for his mother n the other family. I lost my youngest daughter to a massive heart attack 2 years ago. The pain from that was horrible. Many days I didn't even want to get out of bed. But thankfully she didn't suffer, it was fast but my heart still hurts and I miss her so bad. I just can't even imagine losing one the way this poor lady did. Not knowing if he was abused or what. I really feel for the family. It's so very sad. It's definitely some mean evil people in this old world.
Tourists. Homeless. Don't mix.
When Riley's pants, boots, wallet missing + no water in lungs. Toxicological report will be telling. Riley's wet jeans would have withstood rapid current.
His skin was falling off from decomposition. "Sliding off" as the autopsy said.
Good luck with the boots and pants at that point of the skin won't stay on.
@DrSpoculus yet his boxers managed to stay on? Ok....
Oh well, I guess a random Cheryl on RUclips is the expert on the constitution of Riley’s jeans
@@Rebecca-hc5juBOXERS, which are usually loose, and socks. So his pants came off without taking his socks, too?!?
9:55 theres a video of a person running from the last know spot Riley was last seen. Police say he is a person of interest.
What video is it?
He was probably trying to mug the drunk kid and murders him. Hell he probably did a Ted Bundy gay style. Inner cities are dumpster fires.
I say the video
And the black car also ...lets not forget the black car
You are spreading misinformation. Police continue to say his death appears accidental. You are getting these misguided ideas from TikTok.
There were 2 people on the next camera
This was unfair to Riley and his family and something doesn't seem right from the very start. Was Riley running away from some one ?
He was running from something in one of the videos. In another video there is a man watching him and the same man was running from the area where Riley's phone last pinged.
@@jessicaanderson7885In Texas I heard sex trafficking victims are set up at clubs to make it look like there is a disturbance fight in the club and then men show up to kick the person out of the club. Leaving the person alone. Nashville is a hub to drugs and trafficking very related to Texas and is known for trafficking hub. It's also one of the most corrupt states , there was recently allegations from several former police who sounded the alarm on a crime conspiracy by Law enfrmenctm . Please look into this.
So he was abused, killed and then thrown in the river.
dont you think that would've shown up on the autopsy. y'all have got to stop with the nonsense.
Nope. People are just looking for a mystery to solve.
Imo sadly you are right 😢
No he was robed ! His wallet, his boots and his pants were stolen! And then he was thrown to the river, no breathing that’s why no water on his lungs!Now think who would that? Homeless people perhaps?? Nashville police knows there’s a camp of homeless, many of them drug’s addicts very close to the tourists areas full of bars; very dangerous for tourists!! Bad situation!
He didn't have to be abused. He could have been passed out when he was robbed and murdered.
If debris can pull his clothes off wudnt he have scrapes,cuts,bruises from it too
Exactly.
Life is so fragile, one slip up and you're dead for the rest of eternity. What's it all about?
R.I.P Riley. 🌹 🕯🥀 💐💔.
So the current ripped off his tight cowboy boots and belted jeans, but not the loose button-down dress shirt??? riiight!
he pulled them off himself to try and swim
@@NIGHTS.ARE.DARK1😮 duh
Or the homeless took them because he was near homeless camp
He was also intoxicated so they said and there's a surveillance of him running falling and hitting his head into a pole. Maybe he had a concussion.
Couldn't think straight
I mean, it could be possible. I really don't see why anyone, even homeless, would want his clothes & not the watch. You can get clothes at the thrift stores or some nice strangers give them clothes, but I don't see them stealing clothes. @@NIGHTS.ARE.DARK1
lol he drowned trying to swim to safety after somehow ending in the water byr@@mazie7952
Mysterious disappearances phenomenon
And being found in the river. Just like the Chicago River.
None of it adds up to an accidental drowning. Who are they trying to kid? First, his credit card was found on shore. So, are they trying to say the river current ripped his wallet out of his jeans and then his credit card out of his wallet, threw it on the shore bank before dragging him, his boots, his pants, and his wallet out in the river for a dry drowning? And if you can believe that, I got some swamp land in Arizona I can sell ya.
Maybe Brooklyn Bridge too.
If the Pants would have come off from the River flow or from objects in the Water, he would have visible scratches on his Skin (Legs). If there are no scratch Marks, the Pants did come off, before he went in the Water. Don´t you think? Just a thought. ??? This should be carfully investigated .
u ever have your jeans down around ur ankles and you try to get ur feet out? its hard especially in his skinny jeans.
you ever decompose underwater floating in river curents for 14 days after you died?
@@bbloodyangel1the water was very cold and bloating after death can last up to 2 weeks. Due to the temperature of the water, I’m sure the decay process was slowed quite a bit. So actually I’d assume it’s even less likely his clothes would come off, due to the factors of him being found not terribly long after the fact, while being in frigid waters.
I honestly can’t see his jeans and cowboy boots coming off from the water.
@@dollluvno I can’t either, the guy said “slip on cowboy boots” dude has clearly never worn boots
The boots were size 15, new and very stiff. Seems they would be a little difficult to come off. The shirt was of flimsier material. You would think that would come off much easier or tear in the current or definitely snag on branches, etc. He was also stuck under a barge. That shirt would have snagged first before fastened jeans and boots would have.
They need to have drivers in the area where he was found and search for his clothes, belt, boots, & wallet. What about socks? Was he wearing his socks? This case is so odd! There were witnesses that saw Riley that night walking. Why are they NOT talking about what they saw & witnessed that night. People are so evil and cruel smh!! I have a feeling that Riley's family will never get the real truth about what happened to their son that night in Nashville bc homeless people don't want to be seen on camera and they are scared of being the next victim of crime imp. Police really needs to do their jobs and get bk on the river and start talking to the homeless camps who saw Riley that night and the ones who live in that area. There's dogs in the area down the hill and they didn't bark?! U don't hear them on the police footage from the officer. There was someone running away from the bridge where Riley fell in the cvc footage also and there was a red truck broken into also around the same time Riley was seen on the two hour camera footage released by a RUclipsr. There were at least 3 cops that went passed those cameras in that area. After this story aired and seeing how police are currently handling this case I wouldn't want my family members nor friends visiting Nashville! I think RUclips has helped this family with some answers than police. We want answers and we want to see someone arrested that was involved. They took FULL advantage of Riley instead of getting him help. I believe he was robbed by gun point and then pushed off the embankment. Why didn't the officer walk over and see what was going on when someone yells oh he is just drunk. Wth! You get them help. Not brush it off like its nothing. Smh!! We think we know why Riley was in that area, he was losted and probably used google maps to get him to the hotel but it took him to the wrong tempo that was being built instead of the other hotel. Which we believe 🤔...It does make sense. We gotta look at the big picture and look at what we do know & where he was found. We gotta find his phone. The app Find my phone 📱 should tell us where his phone is even if its off. My phone has this setting and he has the new iPhone 14/15. He should have the setting as well thats if he has it setup. It was the first few things I did after switching over my stuff like all photos and contacts to my new phone. Technology is amazing nowadays. There's camera's everywhere and someone is always recording the smallest things especially crime being committed on the streets from their hotel, apartments and vehicles. Someone knows what happened to Riley that night. They should have a camera under both bridges and every bridge that has water close by and that area is dangerous too! I smell a big lawsuit against Nashville police department for NOT keeping teens/ visitors safe!
Exactly the authorities should have asked the mobile network operator to provide the location of his mobile immediately to track him down...even now they can track his exact route up until the mobile was turned off or went under water but if it didn't they can all the details n he even had his apple watch on...I don't understand why authorities didn't try to locate him using mobile phone location or watch location
There r so many things which don't make any sense how he lost his jeans n long shoes...they can't come off by itself in water..
@aliasif8498 Also two other bodies were found in the river too. Nashville has a killer on the loose imp! This case just doesn't make sense to me. There is definitely foul play & the police know it!
It could have been dirty cops or the cops could be protecting an informant. It wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened.
He. Was. Not. Drunk.
drugged
@@ArissaMai222 I believe this and believe there is foul play by the frat boys.
Drunk enough to fall and puke everywhere.
@@DrSpoculusI guess you did the autopsy? Have the toxicology came back yet Dr ?
I Believe Riley was Drugged and Foul Play.
Why is No one Looking into
Black Car in Both Video’s.
I can't help but think someone(s) put something in his drink which caused him to be kicked out of the bar and then person(s) followed him but far enough behind cam footage was cut off without them being noticed. Once they were away enough from people they got him somehow whether grabbed or enticed to an even more secluded area then robbed him knocked him in the head or something and threw him in the river at some point. Could be a team of people from the network of criminals that are operating around Lady Bird Lake, "allegedly. However this young man ended up in that river I hope his family gets the answers they need in order to get closure and peace. My heart goes out to them...
have you ever tried taking off wet shoes or boots... its hard
He dropped his phone in he river and removed clothing to retrieve it.
@@DrSpoculusthat's a good theory, didn't think of that....
@@DrSpoculusEarlier you were saying that the clothes just slid off.
@@DrSpoculus thats not a bad theory but the drop isnt straight down into water. if he dropped his phone it wouldve landed like his debit did. also u have to walk out into the water 15 feet before it drops off
Hi wallet wasn't found, but his debit card was. That's interesting in and of itself.
He puked over the bridge rail and dropped his phone. He removed clothes and his wallet to retrieve the phone. He was swept away and drowned.
Homeless/random person finds the wallet where he placed it and takes what they can use, leaving behind credit cards.
@@DrSpoculuswait… so you’re saying others are making up conspiracies but where are you getting this from?
@couls3able I'm using the evidence, and my brain, and the autopsy report.
@@DrSpoculusYou kept saying that his boots and pants slid off in the water before.
@jessicaanderson7885 no. I said his skin was sliding off when they found him. Boots and skinny jeans rely on friction to stay on. No skin, no friction. The shirt just hangs on so it doesn't require friction to stay on thee body.
Bodies in water bloat and rip tight clothing. Boots and pants, fabrics, deteriorate in water. He was in the water for almost 2 weeks. Animals mpst likely fed in him at some point.
There are plenty of reasons why they would be off the body. What reason would a murderer remove the pants and boots?
Seems most are jumping to the murder conclusion and ignoring the evidence and what makes sense. Again, people are hoping he suffered and was murdered JUST SO THEY CAN CATCH THE KILLER.
It's creepy.
With all of the explanations, where does the credit card come in? I still think homeless people did something to him and nobody is talking and police do not want to investigate because it is a tourist town
One of the worst consequences of this case is the belligerent and mean spirited demonization of the homeless with exactly zero evidence to support such claims. When I’m out and about I frequently put my debit card in my pocket apart from my wallet. This easily could’ve happened with Riley. Then I put it back in when I get home.
There's a rat in the woodpile
Very long-legged, slender individuals like Riley need either specially tailored pants, or to wear belts that keep larger sized pants with long enough inseams, securely on. Unless those were tailored jeans (his momma would know), he was wearing a belt.
There’s no such thing as “slip on” cowboy boots, c’mon
If the current was fast enough to tear off cowboy boots, how did he only float 8 miles down.
Oh really? So, where are the pants floating around????? Those would have been found a lot sooner than the body. I mean, they found the id near the river. Where are those pants floating around? Pls test his hair for drugs.
It takes a while for drugs to show up in the hair. The hair has to grow some after the drug exposure. All a hair follicle test would show is past usage up to the point of last hair growth.
There have been no sign of the missing items.
There is more to this story
And there is a homeless man named Ross that seems to be forgotten.
A picture of those Boots should be all over the newspaper and tv, RUclips news..and someone will say “I saw those boots, unless the officer took them, or the chicks, or car by him.. took them boots?
No water in the lungs? Dead before being thrown in the river.
Has a rape kit test been done
I wish they would let us know more about this!! It was not an accident!
@@dmcdonald1955 No water in the
lungs.?? ?
Boots and pants would not leave easily and especially in the water, a body expands a lot so usually clothes would dig into the body
so what were his injuries?
He didn't have any. No trauma.
@@pinkfreud62 so he didn't fall?
It's preposterous to think the water current pulled his jeans, and boots off, and not his boxers or his socks. What the heck truly happened under the James Robertson (toll) Bridge? Right next to the homeless person that lives there, who insinuated someone was with #RileyStrain
I would think his body would have traveled farther down the river after 14 days. Why did the spend so much time in the one spot where his cc was? I agree that big baggy shirt would have been washed off, torn off before the jeans were. Tearing jeans would have left scratch marks in him. I would think sailing in the lower current would have left plenty of marks on him. He was a bit drunk, I don’t see a drunk person holding their breath. He was intoxicated a bit, but I don’t think he dumb and stumbled into the river. I think when he passed the cop he was having a nervous conversation . After all he just got kicked out of a bar. I’m not sure drunk, maybe a bit lightheaded or drugged. He is not stupid, he would recognize he was going to a less populated area. I think more investigation needs to occur. Who was supposed to meet him down there?
Same thing happened North Florida several years ago. Cops never found anything but I and I’m sure others suspected foul play. Frat boys, drinking, late night, buying two dinners for takeout instead of one, then winding up dead.
I think his friends should be investigated
I think they disappointed him by not taking him to their hotel.
I agree. They should subpoena their phone records.
I think the people with scooters should be investigated
Absolutely.
They seem to have slipped away quite easily .
I am 100 percent behind social media for solving crimes, we are the eyes 👀
His. Belongins. Where. Stoled. Poeple
No, they weren't.
His skin was "sliding off" from decomposition. The boots and pants would not be expected to stay on at that point.
@@DrSpoculus ridiculous. Where did coroner state his skin was sliding off? Guess you never wore boots.
I agree with everything they said. I still think foul play was involved in Riley Strains death. The Tennessee police jumped the gun and need to investigate more. It saddens me cause the family needs more answers. Where is Rliey Strains pants, boots, and wallet? Nobody has mentioned anything about it.
I find it odd that they searched the river initially with a 14 miles stretch. How could it be that within the 14 mile area, he suddenly is within the search area they covered in plain sight where someone who wasn't searching could easily spot him. However I say this with no understanding of how the body and water interact over particular periods of time.
My theory is he fell in the river, then removed his cowboy boots and pants, which contained his wallet, to swim better...I remember being taught this as a kid at summer camp, basic water survival. Then became trapped in river debris, or otherwise unable to get out and died from hypothermia.
Sounds possible
He would have water in his lungs then but that is a possible scenario. Except no water in his lungs. You can't tell me the cops don't have cameras fir that homeless area and all along the river. Boats have security cameras. What vessels were in the area. Must have police boats or whatever the US calls the water rescue etc. Alleged. This was an educated smart young man. He was impaired by something beyond his control or knowledge alleged. Doesn't add up. I'm glad Brian is covering this. He was exceptional on the Gabby Petito (spelling) case. With respect to both families. A go fund me needs to be set up to help this family out. They are in shock and need top lawyers. They need to stay in the area if anyone can help them. I can't imagine their grief but too, trying to get answers and justice. It's too much alone. I'm sorry I can't help. My heart goes out to them. My sincere condolences.
I could accept no boots or no wallet or even maybe no pants but no water in the lungs either???? No way all of these things happened just floating in water.
Using pants for a floatation item is a lifesaving technique. Remove shoes and pants.
There's more to this than meets the eye, but the MSM will ignore it until they see a profitable mini series on the horizon.
Glad to see you doing so much more on News Nation, you are a growing force in News Congratulations Brian!
I suspect foul play. They need to look for signs of S. A.
Before riley's body was found, a detective guest speaker said thst the credit card was ground zero and ground should have been roped off . With all of these guesses, where does the credit card come ?
I may be very wrong, but I sure believe somebody killed this young man. My prayers go out to his family 🙏❤
No there was a volunteer that saw Riley’s shirt on and now it was found back on Riley. Someone needs to validate that. Boots are hard to get off if they got wet.
When he was walking and stumbling he looked like he had been drugged l think someone at the bar put something in his drink they followed him and accosted him
My most sincere sympathy to his family! My son went to the same college and drown. The young man that was with him died a year and 12 days later. If I had it all to do over an autopsy would have been more than appropriate! Just because there was no water in Riley's lungs doesn't mean he didn't inhale or ingest a substance. Few people would be staggering to that degree on one drink. I've read my Son's journal and he wrote about being given "tranquility".
Not. Riped. Off. Body
What is the "National Police"?
Is. Killers. On. The. Loose. Everywhere
@sherryhosier Why. Do. You. Type. Like. This.
No water in lungs he would have floated, in one day or 2... he would have air in hi slungs and that would make him float sooner...
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I really get tired. There are so many cases that logic and common sense tell us that there was foul play and yet please departments are so easily ready to say oh no foul play close the case. What really is going on??
Seems they don’t want to look for the killer. It’s absolutely heartbreaking. Tax-payers paying for shorty service.
Media trying hard to find something weird about his death.
It sounds like the family is suspicious of foul play.
Yes! Agreed! 👏🕊️
I knew it... There is something fishy about this... 👈👈 If I was the family, I would finance an independent autopsy!
there is no current. its not a fast moving river
@JJN603 Yes there was they had alot of rain that contributed to the current
@lindaadelwerth8042 touché. I didn't rlly think about that. But I really don't think the water took off his shit kickers and wet skinny jeans. Taking off wet clothes is hard.
@@JJN603 "Taking off wet clothes is hard." Have you tried underwater? I think you're thinking of when air pressure and gravity are working to press your wet clothes against your skin.
@wownewstome6123 no its hard to take clothes off in water too. Especially his skinny fitting jeans
@@lindaadelwerth8042then how did he only go 8 miles???
I agree with Joseph Scott Morgan.
Size 15 boots?!!!!! Holy shite!
He was 6 foot 7..
I think he said "Size 15 BOATS" which would explain being in the water.
Riley's death was a PR Nightmare for Nashville. They had opportunity to rule it an accident and shove that book closed... and they took it. Im not one bit surprised based off what I've seen historically from the TBI and the manner in which NMPD handled Riley's case from jump. Nothing good for Nashville can come of re-opening it... and THAT is where priorities lie in TN. 💔😰
My continued prayers for his parents as they search for answers 😔🙏
Did the coroner say how long he had been in the water????
Nope. Another great question.
@@southernjulip2403 Dave Paulides had a book about these cases called a SoberingCoincidence. They are strange
I a plod social media for closer , no hiding behind stupidity of law enforcement
Served one drink, 2 waters but he's drunk. He's so drunk he galls into a river, but aware enough to panic & spasm so much & for so long there's no water in his lungs. 🤔
Maybe the PD need to do an internal investigation. Failing to do a thorough investigation, closing the case, knowing there are results pending and civilians located Riley's bank card. If the culprit is not without, what about within🙏?!
I disagree, cowboy boots can require a lot of effort or a boot jack, to get off. Wet jeans would be super hard to remove. This river was shallow enough to stand in. He was reported to be a strong swimmer. None of this adds up
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I don’t believe there was no foul play. I think the police are lazy.
For the most part, police only seem to care about other police. If it had been a police officer found like that, then they would have done a more thorough investigation.
Yes belted