I am a Mineral Resources Engineer and i was looking forward for a device like this from dell for a while now, but you guys missed a big mark and selling point with that 60hz display, it should have been at least 120hz, so i plead with guys to rethink this and please respect the support of your customers, and give us a 120hz display at least, don't be apple!!!
It sure did, sorry about that the link has been fixed. www.delltechnologies.com/asset/en-us/products/workstations/technical-support/precision-5680-technical-guidebook.pdf.external
Thanks for the follow up. Unfortunately my 5680 went into a BIOS recovery loop a couple of days ago. It's uncomfortable to have to keep a spare machine available when you use a Dell laptop. My previous machine had similar issues. I realize a sample size of two is not enough to draw conclusions, I guess I'm just very unlucky. In general the Precision 5680 is not a bad machine, but there are real flaws in the design. Mine has an i7 13800H that should boost to 5.2GHz, but it's capped at 2.73GHz (probably to give the cooling setup a fighting chance). This ceiling is there in several benchmarks and system monitoring applications. The CPU performance is tweaked to fit into the cooling profile the chassis can handle. Then there is the severe backlight bleed onto the screen, A black screen is dark grey at best and there is a visible white bleed through at the top center section, right under the camera. It's like there's a Thinkpad Thinklight installed, that I can't shut off. The keyboard and palm rest get hot when the machine is put to work in SolidWorks. It's not too hot to touch, but it's uncomfortable. The 8GB RTX 2000 should not struggle as much a it does. It appears to run at normal speeds, but it throttles down within 20 seconds of starting a rendering. The same task is completed in less than half the time on an M2 MacBook Pro that uses an emulation layer to run SolidWorks. Opening the machine is just scary. The way I have to snap plastic clips and thin parts of the bezel loose with a plectrum is just wrong. These clips will break somewhere in the future, plastics seldom age gracefully. And there is no point to use these clips, there are eight (ten?) screws that keep the bottom chassis and palmrest/keyboard connected just fine. Adding a drive is almost a life event, I seriously consider using a Thunderbolt enclosure to avoid another chassis chucking session. I think there is something going on with the cooling, this chassis just can't handle the performance the components can deliver. Performance goes up with the bottom chassis removed. It reminds me of the last Intel MacBooks and iMacs Apple offered, they often roared like a caged rabid drone when put to work. Crippling the CPU to 2/3 of its potential is a way to keep temps lower while offering the latest hardware, but that's a tad too sleight of hand for my taste. I expected more from a nearly EUR 5000 machine. @@notthatsteve
Hi. I'm a bit late here, but looking for informations about 5570 vs 5680: my 5570 may be replaced in waranty by a 5680 but is this one a lot thicker and heavier than the 5570, please ?
Please let us know about the thermal improvements & the most important thing, which configurations come with Vapour Chamber and which ones with heat pipes? And are there any different types of fans, fast and slow types?
They are using a combination of DOO Fans (in configs with a GPU), Gore in various locations for heat insulation, graphite for heat dissipation. If you go with the A1000, 2000, 3500, 4000, you have Dual Heat Pipes. The 4090 and 5000 will use a Vapor Chamber.
another question. recently I’m looking for a laptop and I mainly runs rhino and grasshopper for architectural modelling. and precision 5680 comes into my radar. Just wonder does the configuration of 3500 runs well and if the dual heat pipes system is actually capable of keeping it cool. Im switching from Apple to windows now and these thermal throttle issue has been on my mind for laptop selection
how is the battery life on this one? I know its a workstation, maybe not meant to be so mobile, but would like an estimate of how long battery life is while working on maybe solidworks, or less demanding workflow like excel plus a couple browser tabs open.
The dock you are going to want to use is the WD19DCs, it has dual type C connectors which will push the needed power. The WD22TB will also work in some lower end configuration that only need 130W of power.
There will be 2 sizes - 4-cell (66Whr) or 6-cell (99.5Whr) I suspect most will opt for the larger battery. There will be a long-life cycle version, which I normally recommend, as it gives you 3 years of battery warranty vs 1 on the standard. Most people don't realize batteries are consumables and don't fall under the term of the actual device's warranty (regardless of OEM). I am looking forward to seeing the battery benchmarks and will post once they are released and made public. As for the screen I like the higher res touch, but one will definitely have to balance price vs value.
The 15.6" and 17" do not have a direct follow on (there will be no 5580 or 5780) , the 16" will be the one option with the larger screen size. With the increased GPU stack in the 5480 14" I think some will move that way.
@@darrinito Yup. Apple moving to ARM threw a wrench into everything. The silver lining is that Rosetta translation is more than half decent for x86 apps.
Dell's Precision 55xx/77xx series had AWFUL thermals, i.e. the CPU/GPU would thermal-throttle rapidly and some systems were even underpowered for TDP. Have these issues been fixed? Example: ruclips.net/video/68rCeK3l0Os/видео.html
I believe the new stuff comes with a vapor chamber now and re-designed cooling from the precision team (and not reuse of the xps chassis), at-least on their datasheet it said that, but I'm not too sure.
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I am a Mineral Resources Engineer and i was looking forward for a device like this from dell for a while now, but you guys missed a big mark and selling point with that 60hz display, it should have been at least 120hz, so i plead with guys to rethink this and please respect the support of your customers, and give us a 120hz display at least, don't be apple!!!
That is something I would like to see too. I have friends on the product council and will pass that feedback on.
Will you have any new videos on the 5680?
Hi, the rumored new dell xps 14 and 16 that will be announce in CES, will be based on these 14 and 16 laptops but with rtx 4000 gpu probably?
The link for the guidebook leads to the 5680 Tower.
It sure did, sorry about that the link has been fixed. www.delltechnologies.com/asset/en-us/products/workstations/technical-support/precision-5680-technical-guidebook.pdf.external
Thanks for the follow up.
Unfortunately my 5680 went into a BIOS recovery loop a couple of days ago. It's uncomfortable to have to keep a spare machine available when you use a Dell laptop. My previous machine had similar issues. I realize a sample size of two is not enough to draw conclusions, I guess I'm just very unlucky.
In general the Precision 5680 is not a bad machine, but there are real flaws in the design.
Mine has an i7 13800H that should boost to 5.2GHz, but it's capped at 2.73GHz (probably to give the cooling setup a fighting chance). This ceiling is there in several benchmarks and system monitoring applications. The CPU performance is tweaked to fit into the cooling profile the chassis can handle.
Then there is the severe backlight bleed onto the screen, A black screen is dark grey at best and there is a visible white bleed through at the top center section, right under the camera. It's like there's a Thinkpad Thinklight installed, that I can't shut off.
The keyboard and palm rest get hot when the machine is put to work in SolidWorks. It's not too hot to touch, but it's uncomfortable. The 8GB RTX 2000 should not struggle as much a it does. It appears to run at normal speeds, but it throttles down within 20 seconds of starting a rendering. The same task is completed in less than half the time on an M2 MacBook Pro that uses an emulation layer to run SolidWorks.
Opening the machine is just scary. The way I have to snap plastic clips and thin parts of the bezel loose with a plectrum is just wrong. These clips will break somewhere in the future, plastics seldom age gracefully. And there is no point to use these clips, there are eight (ten?) screws that keep the bottom chassis and palmrest/keyboard connected just fine. Adding a drive is almost a life event, I seriously consider using a Thunderbolt enclosure to avoid another chassis chucking session.
I think there is something going on with the cooling, this chassis just can't handle the performance the components can deliver. Performance goes up with the bottom chassis removed. It reminds me of the last Intel MacBooks and iMacs Apple offered, they often roared like a caged rabid drone when put to work. Crippling the CPU to 2/3 of its potential is a way to keep temps lower while offering the latest hardware, but that's a tad too sleight of hand for my taste. I expected more from a nearly EUR 5000 machine.
@@notthatsteve
Thanks Steve, learned a lot, Like the HDMI port.
Hi. I'm a bit late here, but looking for informations about 5570 vs 5680: my 5570 may be replaced in waranty by a 5680 but is this one a lot thicker and heavier than the 5570, please ?
Please let us know about the thermal improvements & the most important thing, which configurations come with Vapour Chamber and which ones with heat pipes?
And are there any different types of fans, fast and slow types?
They are using a combination of DOO Fans (in configs with a GPU), Gore in various locations for heat insulation, graphite for heat dissipation. If you go with the A1000, 2000, 3500, 4000, you have Dual Heat Pipes. The 4090 and 5000 will use a Vapor Chamber.
another question.
recently I’m looking for a laptop and I mainly runs rhino and grasshopper for architectural modelling. and precision 5680 comes into my radar.
Just wonder does the configuration of 3500 runs well and if the dual heat pipes system is actually capable of keeping it cool.
Im switching from Apple to windows now and these thermal throttle issue has been on my mind for laptop selection
Steve would you say the 5680 is more advanced in design than the 7680 and 7780? It uses much less power? and I have not seen overheating issues -
how is the battery life on this one? I know its a workstation, maybe not meant to be so mobile, but would like an estimate of how long battery life is while working on maybe solidworks, or less demanding workflow like excel plus a couple browser tabs open.
Any changes to keyboard mechanics/feel?
Awesome info!
Will this be able to work with a Dell d3100 dock?
The dock you are going to want to use is the WD19DCs, it has dual type C connectors which will push the needed power. The WD22TB will also work in some lower end configuration that only need 130W of power.
What about the battery size?
what I care about is the screen, performance, thermals, and battery life.
There will be 2 sizes - 4-cell (66Whr) or 6-cell (99.5Whr) I suspect most will opt for the larger battery. There will be a long-life cycle version, which I normally recommend, as it gives you 3 years of battery warranty vs 1 on the standard. Most people don't realize batteries are consumables and don't fall under the term of the actual device's warranty (regardless of OEM). I am looking forward to seeing the battery benchmarks and will post once they are released and made public. As for the screen I like the higher res touch, but one will definitely have to balance price vs value.
Hi. Is it true that the precision 5680 going to replace the pricision 5570 & 5770?
The 15.6" and 17" do not have a direct follow on (there will be no 5580 or 5780) , the 16" will be the one option with the larger screen size. With the increased GPU stack in the 5480 14" I think some will move that way.
@@notthatsteve Thanks. I look forward to seeing your full review of this new precision 5680.
Is the OLED touch screen support dell active pen?
Yes it does, I like the rechargeable PN7522W
Battery life is probably going to be trash. Ugh, I hate that I'm left with no option but the mac.
@@darrinito Yup. Apple moving to ARM threw a wrench into everything. The silver lining is that Rosetta translation is more than half decent for x86 apps.
Dell's Precision 55xx/77xx series had AWFUL thermals, i.e. the CPU/GPU would thermal-throttle rapidly and some systems were even underpowered for TDP. Have these issues been fixed?
Example: ruclips.net/video/68rCeK3l0Os/видео.html
You're going to have to wait for vapor chamber cooling or better per watt thermals
I believe the new stuff comes with a vapor chamber now and re-designed cooling from the precision team (and not reuse of the xps chassis), at-least on their datasheet it said that, but I'm not too sure.
Great info!
RAM memory soldered, no thanks
What NO numerical keypad???..I'll pass....
7 series if you want numpad.
@@raytheonbuna1021 Dell Precision 5680 has a 7 series??How's the graphics??