To me, this music has much the same feel as the music of the earlier Strauss family composers. I guess it's the same Austrian sensibility in both! I also hear Italian influences, though, especially in the first movement.
@@Whatismusic123Exaggerated. Listen to symphony 4, or the G major sonata (it should be no18). Schubert has an incredible level of delicacy, it's butter to the ears
@@donnnaelviradude this concerto was written when thalberg was only 17 years old, are you seriously judging him on pieces he wrote in his early teens lmao
@@donnnaelvira This is subjective statement, I enjoy Thalberg's concerto more than the two concerti of chopin, both Thalberg and chopin imitated Hummel. My point was not about this particular concerto, my point was that it's weird you judge the entirety of thalberg based on a piece he wrote in his teens, imagine doing that with beethoven also, imagine not listening to his symphony number 7 because his early pieces are bad...I don't care if you like Thalberg or not, its a matter of personal preference, but if you want to judge him, go listen to his music when he is mature and make a judgment then.
The instruments often imitated the singing of opera deliberately. Thalberg was the Rubinstein of his day (Artur) and Liszt was quite jealous and there was a bit of a rivalry. Thalberg’s compositions are for some reason considered jaded by history so he is only remembered as a pianist and also because the non-traditional style of Liszt and Chopin have held the stage due to this view of Thalberg given by history. But it is this exact non-traditional style that Brahms accurately predicted would lead to the diminishing popularity of the Western Music Tradition that would come after him, because the public was so taken by Liszt and Chopin (who he found to be meretricious)
thanks for this one :D
To me, this music has much the same feel as the music of the earlier Strauss family composers. I guess it's the same Austrian sensibility in both! I also hear Italian influences, though, especially in the first movement.
Take away the piano flourishes and it could be Gilbert and Sullivan. Very singable. N
Complimenti davvero super bello !
Reminds me of Chopin's piano concerto
Have you listened to the piano concerti of John Field, Hummel, or Kalkbrenner? You'll get the same feel, as they influenced Chopin and Thalberg.
Very similar to Hummel. It's as if Chopin were asked to write a Beethoven piano concerto, performed by Mendelssohn.
Is that a compliment?
great concerto! I like how opuses 5 are often in F-minor (like Brahms' or Medtner's)
Beethoven's Op 5 are two pieces in F Major and G Minor, so if you smushed them you'd get F Minor.
Just imagine if Schubert had lived that long!
I think life doesn't resist that supposition, my friend...
He'd probs be garbage still.
@@Whatismusic123Exaggerated. Listen to symphony 4, or the G major sonata (it should be no18). Schubert has an incredible level of delicacy, it's butter to the ears
Liszt level?
Ehhhh...
Indeed a flour leaf
@@donnnaelviradude this concerto was written when thalberg was only 17 years old, are you seriously judging him on pieces he wrote in his early teens lmao
@@donnnaelvira This is subjective statement, I enjoy Thalberg's concerto more than the two concerti of chopin, both Thalberg and chopin imitated Hummel.
My point was not about this particular concerto, my point was that it's weird you judge the entirety of thalberg based on a piece he wrote in his teens, imagine doing that with beethoven also, imagine not listening to his symphony number 7 because his early pieces are bad...I don't care if you like Thalberg or not, its a matter of personal preference, but if you want to judge him, go listen to his music when he is mature and make a judgment then.
@@donnnaelvira a dimwitted comment. No taste for quality music.
For unknown reason this scanner just writes such chord symbols LOL
Sounds like an Italian Opera. Not sure I always agree with the pianist's choices.
The instruments often imitated the singing of opera deliberately. Thalberg was the Rubinstein of his day (Artur) and Liszt was quite jealous and there was a bit of a rivalry. Thalberg’s compositions are for some reason considered jaded by history so he is only remembered as a pianist and also because the non-traditional style of Liszt and Chopin have held the stage due to this view of Thalberg given by history.
But it is this exact non-traditional style that Brahms accurately predicted would lead to the diminishing popularity of the Western Music Tradition that would come after him, because the public was so taken by Liszt and Chopin (who he found to be meretricious)