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Priming fuel system in Volvo 2.0D Ford 2.0TDCi Peugeot 2.0HDi Citroen 136PS
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2015
- Remove air locks and prime fuel system in 2.0D, 2.0TDCi, 2.0HDi from Volvo, Ford, Peugeot and Citroen cars. Follow tutorial and check how to remove air locks from fuel filter & high pressure pump and start diesel engine after replacing fuel filter, after you run out of fuel or performing other maintenance service actions.
This engine (PSA HDI DW10 BTED4 / RHR, Volvo D4204T)can be found in:
Citroën C4, C4 Picasso, C5, C8, Jumpy / Dispatch
Fiat Scudo, Ulysse
Ford Focus MK2, C-Max, Galaxy, Kuga, S-Max, Mondeo MK4
Lancia Phedra
Peugeot 307, 308, 407, 508, 607, 807, Expert
Volvo C30, C70 II, S40 II, S80 II, V50, V70 III
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For someone who have never been intressted in cars, but dont want to pay the dealerships money for "simple" stuff, this saves me alot. Thank you!
Happy to help!
Where can I buy a pump?
Philip Hawthorne I used a medical syringe, but I guess you can look online =)
Nice vid. This one, and the filter change explanation. The small hand pump is no good though.. on a Ford Focus 2.0 Tdci 136kw 2007. You will need to take the small cap off the top of the filter housing and fill with diesel. Also syringing diesel down the line between filter and HP pump will help if you do get stuck using a hand pump, remebering to fill at filter side, then undo the pump side so it flows to the end.. and repeat.. and repeat. You may also need to have a secondary car ready hooked up with cable and high revs to help it along when starting. Plus, while you're there.. bleed the injectors. Well.. that was my Sunday anyway. On a plus side.. Cleared my ESP Fault that I thought was a split turbo pipe or DPF Filter Limp mode issue. Thx Man!
This is a god send! Haynes manual, although good, does not show this procedure very clearly. Thank you very much for your help with this
This video saved my ass today.
Tried this method but what it doesn’t show you is how to disconnect the bulb without reintroducing air in to the system before reconnecting the line. Tried to restart it but it just cut out and wouldn’t restart. Ended up towing it up the road and bump starting it.
Great diagrams with directional arrows ,thanks for showing us m8 .
Glad I sold my 2006 Galaxy changing fuel filter was a stressful nightmare
Thank you! Made the job so easy
Hi I have a 06 smax with same engine do I need to hand prime after replacing in tank electric pump or should it prime itself? I only ask cos I’ve replaced the electric pump but still no fuel is coming up when cranking it over. Thanks
This was shot in Volvo C30 which doesn't have fuel pickup pump in the tank.
If you car has one, you can cycle the ignition few times and should be good to go.
Hi, do you know if this is required after removing diesel heater for servicing? Don't know how the diesel system works for the heater. (Eberspächer)
Sorry, I'm not sure how the heater is supplied with fuel and if it's required. Isn't there a separate fuel pump for the heater alone which would self-prime the fuel feed?
Mam pytanie pojawiają mi się pencherzyki powietrza w tym przezroczystym wężu co idzie do pompy może wiesz gdzie robią się nieszczelności lub jakieś sugestie.
Pozdrawiam
Słyszałem kilka razy o pękniętej obudowie filtra paliwa.
This video just saved me 300 pounds 💷
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thank you. best advice so far
I have a similar issue with the same engine. For some reason , one day i found myself not being able to start it. When i checked under the bonnet , i realized that the fuel line is dry. Tried to bleed it according your video using the return line. But the pressure is so strong that the vacuum pump just cant suck the fuel thru the high pressure pump... any ideea's of what i can do to start it ?
You can try to use high pressure to push the fuel instead of the vacuum to pull it. I'm thinking about blowing air through the return line to the tank. The pressure should push the fuel through the feed line, filter to the pump.
Also you can turn on the starter just for a second so the high pressure pump moves and stops in different position. I think that if it stops at a certain angle it can lock its input and output.
I managed to start it. Was easyer than expected. I used hand pump. Put it between filter and high pressure pump. Replaced the fuel line with some traditional fuel hoses. Start pumping slowly until i saw fuel going out on the return line. Pushed out about 1l of diesel. Than cranked it. It started after about 5 second . A big puff of smoke from the exhaust but it setled quiqly. The problem was the fuel filter housing. Was breathing thru the ruber seal. I recomend to instal a one way valve before the filter. This way even if you have air leaks the fuel will stay in the filter. In my case it went back to tank and dried out all lines... So.... Fix THE ONE WAY valve. It will help you a lot
Hi there, i have the Focus '06 with the same engine. I bought manual pump from peugeot 407 but i have to use it every day to manually pump and start the engine. It is sucking air from somewhere and i cannot find out where. When it stays over a night, it does not start in the morning without pumping the manual pump. The fuel filter is well tightened. Any ideas?
Well you need to check all lines from the gas tank to the fuel pump and back.
Stoyan Stoyanov check the top and bottom bleed valves on the filter housing itself
did you fixed your problem?
Grerat video, i have a problem with this same engine in a 2009 Mondeo, it would cut out randomly and if left would restart after 15-30 mins, after a week or two it cut out completely and wont restart. This happened just after an overtake manouver and the revs were leveling out. It now refuses to start and i have faults P0087/P0088/P0089 all relating to fuel system. I have replaced the fuel filter as a first port of call and it didnt look great, reprimed the system but still no go. Looking at live data i have a healthy cranking speed avergaing 250 rpm but the fuel pressure is reading way too low at roughly 30-50kpa. When the vehicle was recovered he tried some easy start but would have non of it. Belt has only done 3000 miles fitted by ford, still tensioned and turning. Please help me im going bald trying to get to the bottom of this. Thankyou
I accidentally opened the air bleed screw while my engine was running, and it stalled... Is there any other way to get rid of the air?
This seems like what my MK3 Mondeo is doing I'm gunna install a lift pump to help experiment lol
Hi mr fix, I have a mk3 galaxy tdci 2.0 2006, i few months ago while going along the engine malfunction warning displayed on the screen and the engine cut out, tryed starting it and it fired up. same thing happened aging but more often, had fuel filter (not genuine) changed and crank and cam sensor no better. garage said needs new fuel pump.
I got forscan and the codes are P0003 regulator circuit, i have been through all the wiring and all are good. The car runs perfect and can sit for a couple of weeks and it will start straight up. when it does cut out i don't get any warning like rough running or juddering.
The car does not go into limp mode just cuts out.
I do have some bubbles in the fuel line from filter to pump but i think i had them from when i got the car and have done 15k miles without problem.
what i have noticed is that when its running if i juggle or rattle the fuel filter housing i get a lot more bubbles.
Hope that you can help me.
i get good mpg.
i have posted a link to a video on here that is the excect same problem but the guy has not updated with any results.
You videos are great.
many thanks
steve
This kind of cutout is usually caused by timing chain/belt and sensors. If the synchronization between sensors is lost, ECU thinks that timing chain/belt might snap and turn the engine off.
Also the P0003 code - there's a valve that regulates amount of fuel that goes from the high-pressure fuel pump to the fuel rail. If that valve is stuck open because of some kind of contamination (like aluminum parts from the fuel pump) you can also get a cut off because of the risk of damaging the engine. Or if the pressure sensor on the fuel rail is faulty ECU sense false pressure above the limit and cuts off.
Many thanks for the speedy reply much appreciated.
Can i just ask one more thing, would shacking the filter housing while the engine running cause air bubbles in the line to the pump.
thanks again
steve
Most likely the fuel filter housing is cracked or the o-ring is not sitting right. But this amount of air wouldn't cause engine cut off.
wow you are so quick with your replys and expertise, i have just added another question but here it is again
Hi mr fix, I have a mk3 galaxy tdci 2.0 2006, i few months ago while going along the engine malfunction warning displayed on the screen and the engine cut out, tryed starting it and it fired up. same thing happened aging but more often, had fuel filter (not genuine) changed and crank and cam sensor no better. garage said needs new fuel pump.
thanks again
steve
Hi mr fix, I have a mk3 galaxy tdci 2.0 2006, i few months ago while going along the engine malfunction warning displayed on the screen and the engine cut out, tryed starting it and it fired up. same thing happened aging but more often, had fuel filter (not genuine) changed and crank and cam sensor no better. garage said needs new fuel pump.
Hi Mr fix, hope that you had a good christmas. Just an update to my problem, I have gone through all the wires, no problem. i have now changed the fuel volume regulator, drove 100 miles cut out again. I still get the p0003, what i have noticed is that when the car is running i do see air in the fuel lines, and if i juggle the fuel filter housing about i get loads of air, i dont know how it gets in there or if its normal to get bubbles if you juggle the housing about while engine running/ . One other thing, while i was going . through the wiring i noticed that one of the wire from the fuel regulator plugs splits and all so feeds the fuel solenoid to on the pump, in thinking this, if the problem was with the solenoid then and it shares the same wire it could trip p0003. i call the regulator the one under side of the pump and the solenoid the one on the top held in with two torqs
screws
many thanks . steve
If you have no fuel in the line after the filter will this help it start?
Yes.
Same here. There is NO fuel in the line after the filter. Going to try this..
hi again,
so you can prime this without the pump? By just revving it high a few times after starting as shown? or you still need the initial pump action before doing so?
your help will be greatly appreciated.
+No Way if you don't open the fuel cap before disconnecting fuel lines the vacuum in the tank will suck the fuel system dry. Then you need to pump the fuel to bleed the system.
If you released the vacuum from the tank first, then you should be able to just rev it few times.
+mr-fix So you could do a fuelfilter change on an 2008 volvo c30 2.0d without having to prime the system?
+inget alls it's possible.
What would cause this issue?. I’ve bought a 2009 Volvo s40 as a work car. It’s now stopped twice. Got a mechanic to look at it and he used a pump and got it going again then a few days later it stopped again. I haven’t looked at it since. Would low fuel level have caused it initially?.
What happens with this mate
how the hell do i get the top of the housing off?? i dont think its ever been changed so its like welded on and starting to round off. any advice? thank you
Hi, I changed the filter with new O ring last week and done all as its shown in your video. The problem I have, I still keep getting bubbles in my fuel system. Even I done 300 miles since the S-max sometimes struggle to start up, sometimes I have to turn engine few times untill it start up. Any idea where to look? Pipes on the engine are in good condition, could be the housing it self? Or fuel lines under the car? Thanks in advance.
Sometimes it’s the cracked fuel filter housing base.
Didnt seen any leak or crack but worth to have a look. Cheers
Usually there's no leak, because the fuel system works with vacuum.
You can check after night, when you open the fuel filler cup if there's still vacuum in the system. If not, then there's a hole that the air goes in.
@@mrfixpl hello just a quick one i have a ford s max there is no deisel comeing though the line but no error codes comeing up
Hi, did you manage to find the problem? I have same issue, car starting very very bad with air bubbles in lines.
A timing belt video for the 2.0D engine would be great
+MrRickyc4
i've done timing belt service but sadly couldn't film it. That procedure was so extensive that there was no way to work on the car and operate camera at the same time...
+mr-fix how often would you recommend the timing belt replacement?
I was told these are chain driven and last 250k km.
+No Way factory install timing belt should last 240kkm or 10 years. After replacing I would recommend next change at 180kkm and checking condition when servicing the car.
The chain that connects camshafts does not require replacing under regular maintenance if I remember correctly.
2.0HDI 8V 160.000 km 2.0 16V 180-200.000km 1.4/1.6Hdi 240.000/10 year. (not all years) for safety keep 5 years as max if you do not drive 30-40.000km/year Always look service book or ask Citr. Peut. Volvo, Ford service point. If the belt is in 2 pieces you nearly can buy a new engine.
I did this to day and had problem to get fule to the filter, fist i just filled filter houseing half way whit fule like its was when i take out old filter.trying to dont make a mess LOL.then tryed to prime the return pipe whit gas boat primer pump (as i watched on yt),,got some air out and fule.started up and its dies after like 5 sec :(. i then had made big problem i manged to empty the fule filter houseing and was start pumping air in the line,and no fule had come back to filter house from the tank.
I then open filter houseing filled it to maxs or even more hell of mess then opening bleed srew on top, put it back to getter,closed bleed screw. first 2 cranks and its starts :)I hold like 2k rpm for 1 min ,first try i real mess up, i was to obses whit this primer pump on return pipe (Like i looked on yt), but when i got it to work i didnt even used the primer pump.
So the "Magic" is to just fill the filter houseing to maxs just make mess put rags under :) and open bleed srew and close it when it when filter house its locked down agian and then make sure the out line to highpresser pump is full of fule. i learned the hard way. hope my high fule pressur pump didnt taken any dmg from my first attempt.
Great that you worked it out!
@@mrfixpl thanks, and thank you for your videos Mr.Fix
You what I primed and primed cracked off the injectors one at a time primed and primed.
Then I said f it got some brake cleaner down her throat hole, a couple of quick sprays while cranking, kept it revving and it was job done, no bubbles no problems starting.
Get ready to stall the engine by putting it in 5th gear and drop the clutch if you spray too much you will blow the engine so beware
Its a 2 man job btw
hi i fix car today ford glaxi 2.0 not acc Fuel Rail frp sensor high input p0193 thnbks
hello mr fix i have a q cuestion and i need your help my v50 2.0d 2005 always start in secont time .and white fume from exhaust for 10 minut and smell and after 10 minut everything its good start normal with no any fume !!! i need your help thank you
Is car loosing coolant?
no
I would check if injectors are working correctly. If one of them is stuck open or not closing properly when cold, it could smoke.
To check spray patterns you would have to remove injectors from the engine. But you can start with a simple flow test. It's non-invasive and can give you some idea where to look next.
thank you
what you thing about Glow plugs
This method didn't work for me trying to pull the fuel through the return line, it has to much pressure against it. Any ideas to try?
Try again after turning the engine. Sometimes high pressure pomp can stop in such position that it locks the flow.
@@mrfixpl tried that. I had it going in the end but it cut out again, the only way it was doing it was manually removing the air bubbles out but then more bubbles would appear. I have a feeling it maybe the injectors allowing the air into the system. It runs fine when it gets started but cuts out after about 20 seconds.
In some cases the filter housing base can crack in such way that you almost can't spot it. And since the fuel system works in vacuum it will not leak out fuel, it just sucks air inside...
@@mrfixpl maybe oh well it's not my car anyway someone else is having a look tomorrow if that fails I will have another look.
good luck anyway
Hi again mr fix, I have just done some live data recording with forscan on the galaxy and while its cranking im getting good pressure about 2000 psi or more, if it was the fuel pump would i not get the pressure of that amount?,
sorry for being a pain just that i need to get this sorted as i had to get another small car but i dont like it.
thanks again
steve
If the fuel pump is faulty it can present in many different ways: pressure too low, pressure too high, leaking, noise and heat, trouble maintaining fuel pressure at high revs...
Is the P0003 code coming back after you clear it from the car? Also I think that I state wrong that the fuel pressure would cut off the engine. It should go into limp mode if the fuel pressure is not in expected range.
Hi mr fix, once again thank you for the rely, After the engine malfunction light comes on and the display reads the same, some times if i just keep trying to restart the engine it will restart and the display goes off, or if i just leave it for a while it sometimes just goes off and then it will start as normal.
If i clear the code with forscan and try to start the car it just comes back on, cleaing the code makes no difference at all.
The reason i dont think the garage is right about the fuel pump is that it runs perfect until it cuts out, which can be every two mile or every 80 miles, it does it while moving or idling .
what i did do a few weeks ago when the car was in a good mood and running was i turned the car off and i diconncted the plug tht goes to the fuel volume regulator, i got the same symptoms, p0003 and engine malfunction displaying on the dash and the same sound when cranking.
i refitted the plug and it started straight away. I really appriciate your help and wish i was local to you as you would have my car in your garage.
car has done 155k miles
thanks again
steve
I also think that if it was a It's a long shot but you can try this:
The volume valve is controlled with 12V. The positive line goes through a fuse and relay to the battery and the ECU is controlling the negative line. The should be OK as this issue affects only this one part. But the fuse and it's socket and the wiring itself can be damaged.
Any correlation with weather condition?
Try reading the fuel rail pressure when it cuts off and you try to start it. If it's below minimum (valve stuck closed) or sky high.
I went from end to end on the wires that came from it, no broken or anything. i did also clean all fuse terminals and changed the relay with another the same in the fusebox, still the same as i thought if that worked then i would have something else not working. So wish i could get a garage as helpful as you are. i dont have loads of money to spend on it as this time of year for my trade is quite, i was thinking maybe i should just change the regulator and then at least that will eliminate that. the only problem with that is i don't know how to depressurise the fuel system, bleeding it back up should be ok as i have watched your videos a lot.
Weather has no difference, it started happening in the summer and still doing it. I have just looked at the live data and although i don't understand it to much, i have a recording of it when it while the fault happened, the fuel pressure goes down very quickly along with the revs. i would put a picture up but dont know how to s i think that you would be able to tell me more.
thanks
steve
Very good. Thx 😊
Would / could this be the reason my 2.0 diesel Kuga sometimes turns over for a while before it starts??
An injector may have crap in it, so it's losing fuel pressure through the leak-off pipe. The engine has to churn to build pressure back up before the injectors will open. Try using a decent injector cleaner like Diesel Purge at a high concentration. Just drive normally let it give the system a good soak. Eventually you'll get back to whirr-whirr-bruum.
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Can you give me some advice? My Volvo..c30..2.0d. 2008 .. raises the oil level ..not much but still notices ..they told me three things.regeneration of FAP .. unfinished ..on h.p. pumps..and possibly nozzles..although there are no disturbances..any advice is welcome..good greetings ..igor ..bosnia..in English .. I'm sorry
Where is the diesel pump located
Where does the other end of the pump go?
if you're talking about the priming tool - it's a vacuum pump.
i have volvo s40 same engine 2.0d 136 hp i can see air in fuel
Most likely you have broken seal or perforation on the fuel line.
Hello. I watched your videos on replacing the fuel filter on Ford Kuga and the second on the purge of the diesel system after replacement. Your videos are great!!! Property realized!!
Also I have a question about the bleeding. Is it necessary after replacing the diesel filter??
Thanks again bravo for your videos. And thank you very much
As far as I know it is not, but than you risk cranking until you drain the battery because there will be air instead of fuel running through the lines. A friend that is mechanic suggested to rev it hard at first startup to eliminate the air but definitely this is not the best case
volvo s40 2.0D will not prime with pump.
Thank you very veryyy muchhhhh
what's the size of the bleeding hose?
8mm inner IF I remember correctly.
mr-fix thank you 🖒
Once you get engine going you should take it for 5 miles run.
Anyone got a link for one of those primers
it is a one way valve you can usually find at your parts store and some flexible fuel line attached to it, some models have the valve already fitted from factory, my Fiesta 1,4 TDCI had it, today I am replacing the fuel filter on the 2.0HDI Citroen and I hope there is one already factory fitted
Be aware many of these diesel's don't have/need the manual priming pump. As a general rule of thumb if it's not there, it's not needed. You can change the diesel filter, etc. and then simply prime it "normally" via the lifting pump in the tank.
Turn ignition on a few times. Let it prime, turn off. Repeat Do this a few times. Followed by a start with some healthy revs... Never missed a beat! It's way simpler. ;-)
@@crpth1 there’s no lifting pump in this car. Only high pressure pump under the hood.
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