IF SCUMP NEVER CAME BACK TO OpTic
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IF NADESHOT SAID 'NO' TO SCUMP RETURNING TO OpTic
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Nade wanted a piece of paper so Hecz couldn’t do what he did to Nickmerks lol
What'd he do?
Yeah what happened w nickmercs? The guy in the blazer is def being sly w the way he talks about the situation… leaving some info out to make it seem less bad
@@promontag3 Basically 100T was supposed to be 50/50 between them. This was back when 100T basically had just Nadeshot and a T-shirt. Then Dan Gilbert (rocket mortgage guy) invested a few million into the organization. That’s when Nick wanted to get some stuff done in ink. Nade had other ideas which consisted of fully diluting Nick’s ownership to pennies. In other words he gave Nick’s hypothetical share to Dan Gilbert for the initial investment. That’s why Nade doesn’t like to talk about it. Lol
@@hebercruz5348 Basically 100T was supposed to be 50/50 between them. This was back when 100T basically had just Nadeshot and a T-shirt. Then Dan Gilbert (rocket mortgage guy) invested a few million into the organization. That’s when Nick wanted to get some stuff done in ink. Nade had other ideas which consisted of fully diluting Nick’s ownership to pennies. In other words he gave Nick’s hypothetical share to Dan Gilbert for the initial investment. That’s why Nade doesn’t like to talk about it. Lol
Nadeshot and nickmercs beef was my favorite time of gaming. Their blackout argument was the turning point tbh
So that’s where nadeshot learned to give promises and not paper 😂
HECZ definitely got him into the ropes
I get it…but always get a piece of paper. Too easy to get burned without it. Hecz is a stand up guy 🙏.
yea nade ironically literally fucked nickmercs
Learn it from the big dog Nickmercs himself. Made screwed him although probably not intentionally but it’s tough in business
@@iKayoreiyes intentionally he was expecting to dilute nick down to the very bottom.
hecz real af he made sure everyone was taken care of when optic sold
Tell that to Nickmercs. Always get business deals signed.
That’s just a different way of saying “we’ll give you as much money as we decide.” When having ownership like he was requesting, would pay out wayyyy more. That’s why he “didn’t wanna pursue it.”
@@risanddanny92515 That's Nickmercs and Nade tho. Nothing to do with that situation.
Maybe Nade followed in Hecz' footsteps. But those are two separate incidents my dude.
@@e30sdontrun86 he “didn’t wanna pursue it” because, like they say in this video, it was a completely different time. Optic then vs Optic now are completely different. They weren’t even salaried back then
@@risanddanny92515I would but no one is talking about his irrelevant ass anymore lol
It’s on the optic gaming channel for those asking. Scump in depth about retirement was the title more or less.
Glad to hear Boze was taken care of. 💚
Fr. Boze has been one of my favorite optic members since as long as I can remember. Watching him play against the optic main squad on optic nation always had me hoping they’d somehow pull it off but we all knew that was never happening. When he got his chances on the main roster I was always glad he put on a good performance and proved he’s got quality in the game. Much love always for OpTic MBoZe
@@shaggysmokes5193facts, boze is still my favourite optic member to this day even on the watch party, seems like such a humble down to earth guy who is quiet but when it comes down to it, he’s got your back, Zin and scump have mentioned this before
I don’t want this crazy quest to ever end with you guys . Tbh . And merry Christmas brothers
I remember the old days when hecs used to play MW2.. he is not as good as the boys but he made montage and stuff.. mannn been so long
Imagine that exact timeline, Scump leaves Optic….Goes to Envy, then he reunites with everyone because of the merge.
That would happen years later though,would have been different for sure but imo scump is a great player but regardless of what team he was on,it takes compatible players to win...scump can't do everything himself
scump is like tim robinson stuck in character. thought this was an “i think you should leave” parody at first
I graduated from high school with Tim Robinson and you are 100% correct
Mboze is the luckiest guy to ever exist. Will never have to get a real job solely for playing 1-2 year on optic.
He owns multiple successful businesses lol thT isn't tied to optic at all and got in stock's with Big T. The guy makes his own money
@@thetankman8 🤣
How did Scump not play Ron Weasley in the Harry Potter series? 🤔
Because he’s American? And he was also an athlete not an actor.
99% of the Harry Potter cast was British. But now I can’t help but picture Ron as Scump 🤣😂
@@RyanMK666 I mean that's why they call it acting lol... An American can use a British accent just like A Brit can speak with an American accent.. 🤣
@@jeremylutzel9140 we’re talking about Scumpii here lol
Dude says this every year
Nah always get that signed piece of paper lol. Just cause he “took care” of people doesn’t mean this is the world kids. Always get shit signed.
Yup, use the nadeshot nickmercs example, nadeshot did him dirty in the end no paper no proof
Damn imagine if nadeshot stayed
But at same time he made 100T happen
Yeah there would've been no dynasty
Nade fucking blew .. sucked
@@WorthyDirtyJersey him leaving def made that move happen. Smart move by Hector to pick up Damon with the EG buyout. Set himself up to keep going after Nade left.
haha nade is trash
Bro still looks 16
If they let Boze talk more he would be an absolute star he’s the funniest top three optic members along with Methodz and Scump
Facts. BoZe always been my fav. Naturally funny too
Money B is the goat imo but to be fair he chooses not to talk most of the time lol. He just naturally shy
methodz is a sellout lmao
When does Hecz not take care of the boys🤔
I fucking love scumpi. He is just always laughing
Say what you choose… Hecz is a man and he’s a real guy. He don’t lie. He goes with what he’s got and what he’s made.
Imagine a different timeline where you released documents proving the government was spying on our phone calls, then you fled to Russia.
@@wingwong7286 he looks like edward snowden. use context clues genius
Latinos age so well bruh
No, rich people age well because they live stress free. I work with middle age Latinos that look 80
@@friezasoicy8406 being rich doesnt mean you live stress free, it often means you have even more stress. ever heard of the saying "more money more problems"? it might not be the same stress as someone in a 3rd world country trying to find food but its definitely not stress free unless youre a trust fund kid
@@dungeydude3810 can't argue with that logic, but being rich also means you can afford beauty supplements and dermatologist visits that middle class can't really afford
Damn. Nickmercs might not be so crazy now huh?
Dude what happened to Nade haha, bro was a fcking cod beast back in the days
Realized he could make more money off socal media than playing video games
@@miggy4105 yeah youre right homie
He wanted paper because that’s a legally binding agreement and not some “brotherhood” nonsense
Lol but he offered the brotherhood promise to nickmercs and when Nick asked for pen and paper nade did him dirty
So nobody did to him what he did to Nick right?
@@osmaknn9778 I’m not sure as to his personal life if someone ever did it to him, but as to what hecz said was that he was always gonna take care of him, but nadeshot left because hecz didn’t want to give him ownership on paper, hecz took care of all his people after he sold optic, nade shot offered Nick 50 percent I believe word to mouth then when time came I believe he was only giving him 3-5 percent of ownership so Nick left
The difference is scump actually left optic because of nade..
I feel like Scump would’ve found his way back to optic somehow even if he stayed with Envy for a year or two
Hecs with the plain Jane ap 🥶
a large reason why its different now is because of nadeshot lets be honest
These dudes think they are way more important than they are
Anyone knows where I can find this full video?
Gotchu ruclips.net/video/USvq-qTwJS4/видео.html
hecs is too serious lmao
I dont know hecz well to be honest but I imagine if hes a businessman he always wants a piece of paper too
At the time he was not
thats the problem. they already had a system from being built where hecz was owner, then it grew and people (Nadeshot) wanted more. Hecz didnt see the purpose of signing away shit to Nade that in his mind he already has given him. Breaks trust. Hecz probably wanted to just stay on the same course but Nade wasn’t comfortable at the level he was at. No issue either way in my opinion just handle it like men and go your separate ways.
It’s crazy how soft hex voice is
Tf type shit u on 😂
Where is this from?
I would a CDL Pro in another timeline but people would see scump vs his off twin brother
Where do I watch the full version of this talk ??
RUclips duh, try searching it up
It's on the official OpTic gaming channel, Scump talks in-depth about retirement.
Ignore the dipshit who replied above me who clearly wants some attention
Always tension when these two talk... Something definitely happened
Where can I find the full video?
Optics main channel, it’s the video where Scump goes in depth about retirement.
If scump never came back ghost would’ve been the last game I watched competitively
Idk who these people are but that older guy seems shady
This is good content
So Nade wanted a paper but fed sumone up by take my word. Got it. Snake.
I hope Optic Exxtacy and Mafia got taken care of . And Predator
imagine having ur top 2 valo team not qualin
'qualin' , as in riot deciding which orgs they want and hold power over most ;)
if you think this has anything to do with finances you're dumber than your name sugests 🐒
Serious tho what is mBoze still doing at optic ? 😂
Cause bro funny asf and he an optic og
I don’t even remember if he ever announced his retirement
Hell yea everyone knows hecz takes care of his own I don’t know why people surprised he took care of mboze, mboze a LEGEND. this man also funny as fuck. Ay man hecz a real one. All the OGS got taken care of.
H3cz is just the goat man
is hecz wearing a ceramic royal oak?
I wonder how much each optic member got when hecz sold
#GETHECZTOAMILLIONSUBS
“He wanted a piece of paper” LOL what a shady fucking person would say. 😂 idc if he took care of them or not, referring to it condescending is SHADY.. Sorry some people want a sense of security.
For any of you watch nerds that’s an expensive ass AP this man as on. Looking at like quarter million for it 🥶
Crazy to think about it we don’t even know it but boz is prob rich af..I would love to heard more about this honestly like more details it’s interesting af to me
So nadeshot was ahead of his time
Random internet people complaining about random things
So original
He needed paper because look what he did to nick mercs without paper
what video is this clip from?
Big-T would’ve held it down 🐐
Wait is MBoZe part owner?
I need to get taken care of!!!
I hope hecz isn’t wearing ahublot
No 100T dam
sounds like Hecz has been stealing money from Scump. Nadeshot left and now makes more than both of them combined...
I know for a FACT that Hecz would demand a piece of paper as well if he was doing any business deal.
Scump talked about why he left. He basically left bc of Nade. They hated each other for a while. It had nothing to do with money
1. Scump wasn’t in for the money, he was still fighting to solidify himself as the GOAT of COD, while nadeshot an average player at best wanted the money 2. Nadeshot and Scump had some beef for a while because Nadeshot who was Optics captain and shot caller at the time felt like he was put in the shadow by Scump
All you guys saying he dont care about the money....well Nadeshot and Hecz clearly do
@@AriKariG Well when the guy himself says he left bc him and Nade had beef and u can go back and see it there isn’t much room for speculation
@@viperzzzgaming7323 scump is the most popular cod player to ever grace the scene, if he wanted money he could have quit and gone to content and made absolute bank
I get Hector is a great guy... but they should have been written in. They made the team more than a team
Nade is a weasel
Nade deserved to get paid after Optic sold he was a big reason why they became a big brand in the first place
Scmupie is so white 100 😭😭
Nade wasn’t and wouldn’t have been worth ownership back then, most of his clout now comes from what he’s built after leaving optic and he’d have just become another guy around optic if he’d stayed imo
What does a piece of paper mean?
Legal document giving part ownership I assume
That just proves nadeshot did nickmercs dirty #dogeatdogworld
Nade was afraid to be backstabbed cause he backstabs. People who poison drinks don't take drinks from anybody.
I'm curious who did he back stab?
Exactly no one was asking for a legal binding agreement at the time. Obviously Hecz was taking care of them and they knew without Hec'z management. OpTic wouldn't be what it is today. That says alot about Nade. He just wanted a lead role within the org to get paid more. He also envied Scump alot
Idk anybody damn lol😂
so nadeshot did to nickmercs what hecz did to nade only nickmercs was promised it before joining lol
wrong. Hecz wasn't in a position to offer Nade what he wanted. When Hecz got paid so did everyone else.
I feel like Nade and Hecz lowkey still got beef
Scump is good but not teammate good
I hate COD. I'm a long time Halo player and fan. But these conversations are nice to listen to. BTW COD aint been good since BOII. Cmm
Why mboze get taken care of lmao dude did the least barely uploaded
Why do you think? Clearly Hecz saw something in him that went beyond his numbers, clout and upload schedule. Maybe he saw someone he appreciated, respected and loved.
That's brotherhood and it's the reason Optic gaming is one of the most respected Esports orgs out there.
Ngl scump needed optic as much as optic needed him
I have no idea who these guys are or what they're talking about. I normally don't comment on random videos in my stream, so help me out here...
What tf kids still care about screeching uncharismatic cod "pros"
who in gods name is this
Does anybody actually like nadeshot??😳😬 Serious question lol
No 😂
No way to do that?
If faze was able to make multiple leaders as in banks/rain/apex etc and they were arguably bigger due to being more on YT but
Hector couldn’t make nadeshot a higher position?
It’s not the fact that he couldn’t, it’s the fact he didn’t want to give nade more money
He got greedy with the money and hey that’s cool I get it, he’s a business man and he should take care of the money and brand but by doing that, you guys lost probably the most known ESport player, not the best but he was known for his brand, I’m glad thier still friends and now nade has his own company and his own esport team that compete and just won champs, but I wonder if hector ever regrets not giving nade that position in the company cuz now his brand who was low on funds and had to merge with Dallas has to go against nades brand lmao funny how life turns out
Nadeshot deserved ownership
first
And now H3cz owns like 7% of optic 🤣🤣
Don't know who told you that but they're feeding you some rubbish kid.
Hecz and Hastro are the only owners of Optic gaming and I'd wager if it isn't a 50/50 split that Hecz owns the larger portion of the organization.
Fan of optic but never gets personal. So all these comments range in cringe lol but I get why people take their fandom to THAT point
Nadeshot always been a big pos that just wanted power. Now look at em
Dam he looks like a 40 year old man
Why
Did
Mboze
Get
Taken care of
Do u know who boze is???? How long he’s been around
@@nathaniel4254 yes, and I know he's been effectively useless for the org for a decade. He was barely useful even when he was a pro...
Hecz owed nade at least a third of OpTic. His greedy ass pushed nade out the door. “At the time there was no real way to do that.” Bullshit there was no way. How about you draw up a paper in 10 minutes that says nade owns a third.
Ironic because Nade screwed over Nickmercs for the same shit 🤣🤣
@@nuked7553 exactly. And imagine Scump wanting that BigT as well. There would be no optic if they were that selfish
A third of what? There was nothing but a name
@@nuked7553 and hecz screwed nobody over with optic sales. Nade wanted it writing I get that, but to then do to someone else what you were worried would happen to you? Hypocrite much?
Also nade never owned a 1/3. Or was never entitled to 1/3. It was split between everyone who started it and it was more than 3 people.
Ew
They would’ve won more
“No paper needed. Everyone got taken care of” aka… hec pocketed a ridiculous amount more than the pros that really made that franchise. Regardless if he comes off as a nice dude or not
and whats wrong with that? he started the damn thing
@@jfraz_7720 did I say that was a problem? No. I stated that he pocketed a lot more money and did shit off the books in order to save himself some wealth.
They were literally contractors with no ownership. Knowing their relationship with Hecz, there’s a good chance they got more than what they were actually owed. Especially with him getting them room and board thru sponsorships
Esports was different back than. No real way of ownership. The players were technically employees or 1099 contractors. They obviously get paid salary now becuase theres the money for it. Sponors weren't willing to dish money back than. RUclips and twitch were no where near what it is today
Faze is ruining gaming
Weirdo nobody's that arent good at the game lol
Y am I getting these geek recommended to me
Imagine a time where people gave a f***
Imagine worshipping people who just play video games lol