Bill Russell !!!! 11 rings NBA, 2 NCAA rings (consecutively), 1 Olympic Gold Medal!! I am a Celtics fan and I agree with Red Auerbach: "draft Russell, move heaven and earth to get Bird." Bill Russell played 1957 - 1969. People didn't ride on dinosaurs to the Garden. The talent pool was CONCENTRATED. RUSSELL told Jordan that Steve Kerr wouldn't have made a game-winning shot in the Finals. Why? Jordan asked. "Because he would never have made the NBA in the 1960s."
I appreciate the respect you’re showing to Bird. It’s not all about race and racism. But I also think people should be free to state facts. Some “stereotypes” are for a reason, and it’s not about ability, it’s about talent and work. A white chick who is a world class soul or r&b singer. A person of color who becomes president. A non Chinese ping pong player winning the Olympics. Venus and Serena completely dominating Tennis. Tiger dominating Golf. Black players have traditionally been better at this sport. So when a dude who comes in that doesn’t fit that mold, there shouldn’t be anything wrong with pointing that out, making himself prove himself. You could say the same thing about a lot of different things apart from basketball. You can’t just give the flowers without those flowers being earned. Sports no longer has the hurdles that other professions still have to break those molds. It takes trendsetters sometimes. Bird earned those flowers. And humor is a good way to acknowledge that stuff. But you gotta back that humor up before it seems funny, and this dude more than did that
I have to make a distinction between fast and quick. Larry might not win a race, but he was quick. you don't get that many rebounds or assists if you are not quick. As far as being slow, he used that to his advantage by making the other team play to his speed. For 7 years he played with a broken and fused back, todays players won't play if they are tired.
In fact Larry Bird early in his career (when he hadn't broken his back in the summer of 1985) was not slow at all. They make the mistake of saying he was slow because they are talking about him after his injuries (back and achilles) Larry Bird was slow when he suffered his back and Achilles injuries. There's a difference between being average and slow, just because he wasn't super fast doesn't mean he was slow. And it was the same for his relaxation, it was average, Larry Bird could dunk although he did not dunk often because it was not his style like for Maravich who knew how to dunk but never dunked in official matches. Larry Bird has agile hands (fast movement with his hands),his hands was quick and his brain reacted very quickly (reaction speed). In football for example, Messi is slower than Mbappé but his feet and his body move faster than Mbappé for example. This is called agility (speed of execution and quickness to move his body, his feet) same thing for his brain. Johan Cruyff had everything, running speed, agility, dribbling, technic, super brain... Larry Bird without injuries was not slow, he was not like Willem van Hanegem (great player but slow).
It just isn't fair or right. Russell was only 6'9" but he had a 48" vertical leap. He destroyed the careers of many NBA shooters who used the "line drive to the basket and a bank off the backboard" shooting style. He made guys quadruple-pump, even quintuple-pump. Once they saw what he could do. He won the regular season MVP 5 times. And that was when the PLAYERS voted on it. So the players looked at all those 60s Celtic teams who stocked the Hall Of Fame, guys like Bob Cousey, Tommy Heinsohn, Hondo Havlicek, K C Jones, Sam Jones, Satch Sanders, Don Nelson, John Thompson (yes, Georgetown's future coach had an NBA career that consisted of one season with Boston), and on and on and said to themselves "Great team. 11 guys who can give Boston 22 points a night if needed. But they can't get one basket if they don't have the ball. Russell's the chef on that team, so let the chef cook." His rival of course was 7'1" Wilt, who once scored 100 points. But he was disliked almost as much as Isaiah Thomas for refusing to share the wealth with his fellow Philly teammates. Wilt played for stats. His real team was Wilt Chamberlain. in game 7 in 1969 in L.A. against the over-the-hill gang (Boston), Wilt took himself out with what he said was a groin injury. With about 8 minutes left. Boston (against whom you could make no mistakes, no matter their age) grabbed the lead with a million-to-one shot by Don Nelson (future Golden State coach) the hit the back of the rim, shot 6 feet straight up, and came down through the hoop, nothing but net. Jerry West nearly retired. "He could shoot that shot a million times and it never goes in. Never." Red Auerbach made Russell player-coach when he retired. In 1957 he had Cousey teach Russell how to pass. Heinsohn taught him the jump-hook, and 6'9" Russell could have played point guard. He was already track and field fast. And it was now all over for the rest of the NBA. 11 titles with Russell. 8 in a row. Those Making The Case videos by Clayton Someone said, "I can't give you any stat that says Russell was the best ever. All I can do is point to all the championships Russell won in college and the pros. The only player on the 1957 championship Celtic team who was on the 1969 championship Celtic team was Bill Russell." He (the Making The Case guy) guessed that the greatest player of all time in the modern NBA, ENTERED the NBA in its second year of having the same rules as today except the 3 pointer, ENTER and be the best ever, those odds are unbelievable. Plus HIS highlights are in black and white. And Russell's total number of rings is so mind-bogglingly high that there MUST be another reason. 11 titles in 13 years is laughable. Something is wrong. This cannot be right. It must be like Walter Johnson baseball where the rules- no, the rules were the same. NO ONE wins 2 NCAA titles, goes pro and wins 11 titles in 13 years. Plus that Gold Medal. NO ONE CAN DO THIS. Let's just forget 60s basketball and pretend it never happened. We'll start in 1970 with the Knicks and 71 with (finally) the Lakers. And we will ignore 1974 and 1976 because the Celts finally figured out how to win without Russell. Maybe the ball was oblong in the 60s, like a football. Or those games were fixed. SOMETHING was different. You just can't say 11 rings then is like 11 rings today. Well...refs in the late 50s to the late 80s were inclined to let the teams settle things on their own unless someone pulled out a knife or gun. THAT is different. The 3 point arc was tightened shorter. But that is it. Either Bill Russell actually existed or he didn't. ....By the way, amaze your friends. In 1985, 1986, and 1987 McHale won the NBA regular season FG% award. It always goes to a backbencher who plays about 8 minutes a game and never more than 10 feet from the basket. Not McHale. He averaged over 20 pts a game and played Starting Player Minutes. And he shot low 80s FT%. And he had a decent outside shot. HIS numbers for that award never happened before or since. And the first guy to shatter a backboard was Chuck Conners in 1946. Before he became an actor, he was a Celtic for 2 or 3 years. He was TV's The Rifleman. Chuck Conners Person was named for him and also adopted that nickname. Hey...didn't Chris Webber play for Bird's Pacers? When Bird was the coach for 3.years? I know he coached a lot of old enemies like Reggie Miller and Mark Jackson. THAT might be Bird's greatest achievement because great players RARELY do well as coaches. No patience. Bird was Coach Of The Year his first year.
Caitlin has class. She doesn't whine or complain, and isn't a dirty player. She can win without being a bully. She also gives respect and compliments to other players.
We love Larry bird because he was unapologetically him Larry didn’t just give you respect you earned it. What’s a dirty player because from my point of view. AR has never been a dirty player she don’t take no sh** either AR has done nothing but complement everyone she plays she said I don’t have a problem with anyone it was them or me and I choose me
She good I think she will be a GREAT but personally again personally I like the style AR brings she’s unapologeticly hair she don’t care she want be the best and that’s it
I dont know a lot about the WNBA but are you talking about swagger? From what little I know, the refs.seem to call technicals on Clark if she breathes wrong. Not sure what is going on.k@SolidReacts
Red Auerbach deserves a badass video. Coach? GM? Inventor of the modern NBA? ULTIMATE DIRTY COACH/GM? YES. Yes. All of those. 1. Red Auerbach called in bomb threats to hotels of opposing teams. They say. 2. Red Auerbach tripped fire alarms of hotels of opposing teams. 3. On the road, if the Celtics were up 5with three minutes left Red would light up a victory cigar. It would enrage EVERYBODY. On the road, people would come to hate on Red. Other teams would get fired up because of that victory cigar. They would go into overdrive. Talent scout? Greatest ever. Took a chance on a skinny center who really couldn't score but could block, rebound, steal, jump, jump QUICK, and run. And Cousy taught him how to handle the ball. Tommy Heineken taught him a little jump hook. Took a chance on Bird, who only looked weak to everyone else. Took a chance on McHale, another weird looking big man. Invented the 6th man. Fast break. The extra pass that got everyone involved. Invented a "share the wealth" mentality. Civil rights? Celtics first to draft a black guy, Chuck Cooper. Who had to do a stint in the Army after being drafted by Boston. Red first to start 5 black players...then bring in HAVLICEK as the 6th man. Boston had the first black pro team coach in Bill Russell, player-coach 67 68 69. Boston Celtics did everything right but still had the rep as a white team Because of the CITY of Boston and the racial unrest because of busing.. So the Celtics had to pay for the sins of the city. Even though they were the first in every category of promoting blacks. And Jewish Red Auerbach who once punched Moses Malone. Red punched Moses Malone. During an exhibition brawl with the Sixers. Sportswriters call Red the only genius in teamsports.
I'd say Larry Bird is the most complete passer, equally adept at short and long passes, when he passes the ball it's as if he's playing several different sports (his volleyball-style passes, baseball, american football, basketball and even a Frisbee pass I saw in a video)
MJ, KOBE, MAGIC/BIRD then maybe BRON. But Bron softened up the league but intimidating MANY number 1 Picks by slowing down building new dynasties amongst many things. And of course the worse is teaming up with Allstars and HOFers.
The Pistons were great but they might not have gotten their flowers because of how dirty them played. That is also just one of several reasons why Thomas was not selected to play on the Dream team.
As coach, Larry put his team together, a team of team players: Miller, Jackson, and Mullen. Jalen Rose was out to prove himself. And the Davis brothers made sure Rodman didn't even have a.chance. he was Missing In Action against the Bulls. His Pacers gave Chicago the most trouble since.Detroit.
Hey Labron is number 1 at the flops and fake fouls. Caitlin Clark and Larry Bird both do passes like Pete “pistol” Maravich. If they hade a 3 pt line when Maravich he’d been averaging 68 pts per game. Today’s basketball isn’t as physical or trash talk like the 80’s
If Dominique had not been injured at the time of the Dream Team, do you think he would have been chosen to be on the team, and if so, who do you think would have been left out?
Bird was unique. He wasn't the GOAT. Let's not play with that. But the man was different. Maybe used fundamentals better than anyone. As far as how the game was meant to be played, he might have been the GOAT of fundamentals.
Caitlin Clark is the female version of Larry Bird, she does it all, points, assists, rebounds, and she can shoot it from anywhere on the court. She just needs to develop a trash talk game, but in today's soft WNBA and NBA, they are calling technicals on players who trash talk or get too physical. Just like Larry and Magic saved the NBA in the 80's, Caitlin Clark is saving the WNBA today. 🏀💪🤙✌️
I think they are trying to make Caitlin and Angel the Larry and Magic of the WNBA, especially in the media with all the stupid race stuff they tried with Larry and Magic they are trying with Caitlin and Angel and both are like Larry and Magic they don’t care and want to play into the sports media BS. I’m from Naptown and I hope they build a team that can take what Tamika Catchings started and go to a new level of winning.
@@AyySolid they are both great, I hope people/fans recognize the talent and watch their games as they develop into hall of famers. Both have talent to take the league into the next level.
They will NEVER be Magick and Bird. Why? They lack RESPECT. Yes Bird and Magick were rivals but they RESPECTED each other. They both said the other were THE GREATEST PLAYERS. THATS RESPECT. Something the women players or even today's NBA players DO NOT HAVE.
Let's be honest about one thing. New York City is the media capitol of the world, followed by Chicago and L.A. And L.A. might be AS.big,.just in different ways than New York. And the Yankees have dominated the sport of baseball seemingly like no one else. Babe Ruth is the baseball GOAT, and the New York media will never let anyone forget it. In 1970, when the Knicks won, I have read that New.York hyped that series up so much that it might as well have neen the first game.ever.played, according to culture/sports experts. You know, guys who spend their time analyzing who wins and why and.how.we.come.to.take.the.opinion of New York City sports-writers and.broadcasters and people around the country who work FOR.a New York home office. These experts in sports/culture were the first in America to say that if we loved hockey the way we love other sports, our.minds.would have.been.blown by Wayne.Gretzky. He would be.on.the.tip.of everyone's tongue when asked who the greatest athletes of all time are. But I don't know hockey beyond.the Bruins so Gretzky is a non factor. I can't even say WHY he is God in Canada. But back to New York. They invented The NBA in 1970 and pretended the 1960s never happened in basketball. So.that is one factor.to.remember about New York/Chicago/L.A and their.axis.of info or the lack of it when it comes to sports. And besides their huge numbers of Yankee/Dodger/Giants/Mets world series victories., the NYC media won't let anyone forget that Joe DiMaggio performed the greatest feat of athleticism-that-can-be-measured by man. He hit.safely in 56 consecutive games..Statistically that is impossible. Look at it. No one is as close as Rose and.Keeler, each with 44.game.streaks. it is a record that no one gets close to with each generation. No one is closing in on that number that I know of. All of which is to say that if the Celtics had been the New York Celtics since 1946 when the NBA started, they would be as lauded as the Yankees/Dodgers/Giants/Mets domination. 😚 The Celtics don't play for New York, though, They play for.Boston. Boston? Like Atlanta for so many years, Boston has to stand.for several states, from Connecticut to Maine. And...Boston? Boston is or was the smallest town to have all 4 sports represented by their own team. Baseball, basketball, football, and hockey. But....Boston? It is a big college town. Harvard, BC, BU, Northeastern etc etc. How can that small town not only support 4 teams, but in the 21st century, Boston somehow has been the dominant city in Sports. Patriots and Red Sox have 6 and 4.titles since 2001. Celtics 2 and Bruins 1. And the Sox accomplished a.DiMaggio when they reeled off 4 in a row over the Yankees in 2004. And.so.if the Celtics were New.York City there would be no GOAT Talk. Bill Russell would be pounded into us as the GOAT. No questions allowed. But number 2 on the GOAT list would probably be up for grabs. Maybe. Maybe possibly. It depends on the athlete and the team. Knowing New York, Larry would seal.that spot because that is how Red Auerbach saw it. And.a.New York Auerbach would be Albert Einstein; he would never be considered wrong about anything. "Draft Russell then sell your wife and kids.to get Bird." And the guy who invented the modern NBA to suit the kinds of teams he dreamed to put together would know, right? When Russell came up from college, everyone(coaches, scouts, GMs) passed because Russell didn't score. Only Auerbach saw thru that.to the.modern world. Give the ball to the scorers. Block shots..Rebound. Be.a.demon in the ten feet around the net. Fight for it. Other teams are the enemy. Have at least one enforcer. So the New York Celtics would be like the Yankees. Our DNA would tell us Russell and Bird are one and.two, with one getting the ball to two, and.two almost never missed from 79 to 86. And Red might possibly be the one Coach to push Bird one way and pull in the other so that he avoided injury. But he didn't and Bird felt the need.to dive for every loose ball. And.Carr and.Maxwell were the enforcers but Larry stood up for himself. ..But if he had played for the New.York Celtics, anyone who messed with Larry would get got. You think Mafia guys don't like sports? They may be blind to teams when it comes to betting, but a team like The Celtics coached by a guy like Auerbach would inspire the hopes and dreams of even the most hardened tough guy.And I am not kidding. And Auerbach is the exact kind of coach who would welcome the help of organized crime since he loved to needle other teams in the road with a premature victory cigar. He also loves calling in Bomb scares and paying his lackeys to trip.the fire alarms at hotels housing the visiting enemy in Boston. HE also punched Moses Malone during that massive brawl in Philly where Cedric Maxwell went into the stands after a heckler, where Bird punched Billy Cunningham. ...And.no.fines from Auerbach or any Celtics coach. ..So let us have no more GOAT talk. The media have.decreed the NY Celtics as the basketball Yankees and Russell and Bird as Ruth and...Gehrig maybe.i don't know if Gehrig was that good. DiMaggio? Mantle? Whoever. But that pause would be sealed off from criticism. At three, start guessing and arguing.
Like I said, I will ring your doorbell and run if you don't address the Russell issue and why his 11 pro rings, 2 college rings, 5 MVPs, and Olympic Gold don't seem to matter to people. These people seem to know a lot....until Russell. "Well, that was in the sixties before fire and gravity were invented and players were shorter way back then, like under five feet, and the court was 10 feet by five feet, and players smoked and used wheelchairs and the circle hadn't been invented so the ball was bulging at different areas, and each team only had 1 ball and there were only 4 teams: the Celtics, the Lakers, the Globetrotters, and the Generals." And it is like Henry Ford invented the aitomobile, the modern car, in 1910, but the car be invented was a Maserati or Porsche or Lambo or Ferrari. Right off the bat, dude makes a car and it is so good that it will never be improved upon. How mind oggling is that? Red Auerbach invents the modern NBA. In 1956. But he is stuck. He has an interracial team of Hall of Famers. He has the first and maybe best Superstar Point Guard in Bob Cousey who did everything point guards do today. Better. BUT HIS TEAM CANNOT GET THE BALL. SO he looks at this weirdo kid everybody is looking at, too. But everyone passes on him. Why? He can't score. He's too skinny. He looks like he's made of glass. But Auerbach sees a rebounder. A blocker. A 6'9" kid who can leap because only Manute Bol years later was skinnier. He saw a nightmare for other teams. He can get 48" high and stay there. He can knock the ball to his streaking greyhounds. Red invented the 6th man, the fast break, the screen, the backdoor, the pick and roll, the give and go, the outlet, the outlet pass, moving without the ball. Auerbach looked at Russell and thought "Maybe he can't shoot but he can do all these other things I'm knventing." He did it.
Not as many teams means every team is loaded with Hall of Famers. How many MVPs does Oscar Robertson have? Elgan Baylor. Jerry West. Bob Petit. Lanier. Willis Reed. Those loaded Knicks teams of the late 60s with Reed DeBuscherre Bradley Frazier Monroe. All the Laker teams that ALWAYS won the West. Players looked at all that and said Russell. It's Russell. 14 teams means every player is super-good. Too good. Like Russell told Jordan, Steve Kerr couldn't play in the 60s NBA. HE named others that Jordan didn't mention because they didn't have more than one ring.
I am going to praise Bill Russell until you address the 11 titles, 2 college titles, Olympic Gold, 5 MVPs (regular season). Russell wasn't built for today's game? RUSSELL wasn't built for HIS OWN TIMES!! He was just 6'9" in an era with Wilt, Lanier, etc. He had a 48" vertical leap BUT his leap was FAST. A fast jump is more effective than any number of feet you can jump. Just ask anyone who ever got into a jump situation with Dennis Johnson. And defense? Blocked blocked blocked shots. Steals. Rebounds. Speed is always everything. Again, ask anyone (like Magic) whom 6'4" DJ guarded. Russell had the speed. He was on the college track and field team, too. And those MVP's.... The PLAYERS selected the regular season MVP. They saw the names on the rosters of those teams Boston put on the court, those Hall of Fame ENTIRE teams, and said "Russell makes that team. He's the chef." Not as many teams? 10? 14?
Jordan politically reminds me of Wilt Chamberlain. MJ said Republicans buy bball shoes, too. He was out to offend no one. And all his greatness seems centered on Michael Jordan. I dont know....maybe it is because Magic and Bird played on established great teams with great histories. Maybe it is the number of assists. Wilt didnt offend anyone in the sixties. Russell sided openly with Ali during the draft resistance thing. Russell spoke out about civil rights and marched with Civil Rights Workers. And Jewish Red Auerbach encouraged him to do so. He actually encouraged all the Celtics to do that. ... Then he would sneak off and call in a bomb threat to the hotel where the opposing team was staying. Or wait until 2 a.m. and pay someone to set off the fire alarm in that hotel.
DomInique is my favorite non-Celtic. He and Isaiah Thomas should have been on that first Dream Team. Take out Malone and Stockton. Tell Jordan to shut up about Isiah. Keep a cattle prod ready to go Isaiah started acting like the kind of player EVERYONE apparently In the NBA hated with a passion.
Nice to see you again Solid. Can you give me your discord link, because I clicked on it but it seems not to work. I would like to put you videos links of football players (soccer) and I am sure you will enjoy them. The link will not work, the best would be to space the link with spaces or a period because YT will delete the comment if you put the direct link. Thanks in advance.
The most feared words in 80s NBA, “You’re guarding Larry tonight.”
Good words for the guy guarding Larry, “ His shooting hand all swollen up. “What happened?” They say he just knocked somebody the F-Out.
Bill Russell !!!! 11 rings NBA, 2 NCAA rings (consecutively), 1 Olympic Gold Medal!! I am a Celtics fan and I agree with Red Auerbach: "draft Russell, move heaven and earth to get Bird."
Bill Russell played 1957 - 1969. People didn't ride on dinosaurs to the Garden. The talent pool was CONCENTRATED. RUSSELL told Jordan that Steve Kerr wouldn't have made a game-winning shot in the Finals. Why? Jordan asked. "Because he would never have made the NBA in the 1960s."
I appreciate the respect you’re showing to Bird. It’s not all about race and racism. But I also think people should be free to state facts. Some “stereotypes” are for a reason, and it’s not about ability, it’s about talent and work. A white chick who is a world class soul or r&b singer. A person of color who becomes president. A non Chinese ping pong player winning the Olympics. Venus and Serena completely dominating Tennis. Tiger dominating Golf. Black players have traditionally been better at this sport. So when a dude who comes in that doesn’t fit that mold, there shouldn’t be anything wrong with pointing that out, making himself prove himself. You could say the same thing about a lot of different things apart from basketball. You can’t just give the flowers without those flowers being earned. Sports no longer has the hurdles that other professions still have to break those molds. It takes trendsetters sometimes. Bird earned those flowers. And humor is a good way to acknowledge that stuff. But you gotta back that humor up before it seems funny, and this dude more than did that
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I have to make a distinction between fast and quick. Larry might not win a race, but he was quick. you don't get that many rebounds or assists if you are not quick. As far as being slow, he used that to his advantage by making the other team play to his speed. For 7 years he played with a broken and fused back, todays players won't play if they are tired.
In fact Larry Bird early in his career (when he hadn't broken his back in the summer of 1985) was not slow at all.
They make the mistake of saying he was slow because they are talking about him after his injuries (back and achilles)
Larry Bird was slow when he suffered his back and Achilles injuries.
There's a difference between being average and slow, just because he wasn't super fast doesn't mean he was slow.
And it was the same for his relaxation, it was average, Larry Bird could dunk although he did not dunk often because it was not his style like for Maravich who knew how to dunk but never dunked in official matches.
Larry Bird has agile hands (fast movement with his hands),his hands was quick and his brain reacted very quickly (reaction speed).
In football for example, Messi is slower than Mbappé but his feet and his body move faster than Mbappé for example.
This is called agility (speed of execution and quickness to move his body, his feet) same thing for his brain.
Johan Cruyff had everything, running speed, agility, dribbling, technic, super brain...
Larry Bird without injuries was not slow, he was not like Willem van Hanegem (great player but slow).
It just isn't fair or right.
Russell was only 6'9" but he had a 48" vertical leap. He destroyed the careers of many NBA shooters who used the "line drive to the basket and a bank off the backboard" shooting style. He made guys quadruple-pump, even quintuple-pump. Once they saw what he could do.
He won the regular season MVP 5 times. And that was when the PLAYERS voted on it. So the players looked at all those 60s Celtic teams who stocked the Hall Of Fame, guys like Bob Cousey, Tommy Heinsohn, Hondo Havlicek, K C Jones, Sam Jones, Satch Sanders, Don Nelson, John Thompson (yes, Georgetown's future coach had an NBA career that consisted of one season with Boston), and on and on and said to themselves "Great team. 11 guys who can give Boston 22 points a night if needed. But they can't get one basket if they don't have the ball. Russell's the chef on that team, so let the chef cook."
His rival of course was 7'1" Wilt, who once scored 100 points. But he was disliked almost as much as Isaiah Thomas for refusing to share the wealth with his fellow Philly teammates. Wilt played for stats. His real team was Wilt Chamberlain. in game 7 in 1969 in L.A. against the over-the-hill gang (Boston), Wilt took himself out with what he said was a groin injury. With about 8 minutes left. Boston (against whom you could make no mistakes, no matter their age) grabbed the lead with a million-to-one shot by Don Nelson (future Golden State coach) the hit the back of the rim, shot 6 feet straight up, and came down through the hoop, nothing but net. Jerry West nearly retired. "He could shoot that shot a million times and it never goes in. Never."
Red Auerbach made Russell player-coach when he retired. In 1957 he had Cousey teach Russell how to pass. Heinsohn taught him the jump-hook, and 6'9" Russell could have played point guard. He was already track and field fast. And it was now all over for the rest of the NBA. 11 titles with Russell. 8 in a row.
Those Making The Case videos by Clayton Someone said, "I can't give you any stat that says Russell was the best ever. All I can do is point to all the championships Russell won in college and the pros. The only player on the 1957 championship Celtic team who was on the 1969 championship Celtic team was Bill Russell."
He (the Making The Case guy) guessed that the greatest player of all time in the modern NBA, ENTERED the NBA in its second year of having the same rules as today except the 3 pointer, ENTER and be the best ever, those odds are unbelievable. Plus HIS highlights are in black and white. And Russell's total number of rings is so mind-bogglingly high that there MUST be another reason. 11 titles in 13 years is laughable. Something is wrong. This cannot be right. It must be like Walter Johnson baseball where the rules- no, the rules were the same. NO ONE wins 2 NCAA titles, goes pro and wins 11 titles in 13 years. Plus that Gold Medal. NO ONE CAN DO THIS. Let's just forget 60s basketball and pretend it never happened. We'll start in 1970 with the Knicks and 71 with (finally) the Lakers. And we will ignore 1974 and 1976 because the Celts finally figured out how to win without Russell. Maybe the ball was oblong in the 60s, like a football. Or those games were fixed. SOMETHING was different. You just can't say 11 rings then is like 11 rings today. Well...refs in the late 50s to the late 80s were inclined to let the teams settle things on their own unless someone pulled out a knife or gun. THAT is different. The 3 point arc was tightened shorter.
But that is it. Either Bill Russell actually existed or he didn't.
....By the way, amaze your friends. In 1985, 1986, and 1987 McHale won the NBA regular season FG% award. It always goes to a backbencher who plays about 8 minutes a game and never more than 10 feet from the basket.
Not McHale. He averaged over 20 pts a game and played Starting Player Minutes. And he shot low 80s FT%. And he had a decent outside shot. HIS numbers for that award never happened before or since.
And the first guy to shatter a backboard was Chuck Conners in 1946. Before he became an actor, he was a Celtic for 2 or 3 years. He was TV's The Rifleman. Chuck Conners Person was named for him and also adopted that nickname.
Hey...didn't Chris Webber play for Bird's Pacers? When Bird was the coach for 3.years? I know he coached a lot of old enemies like Reggie Miller and Mark Jackson. THAT might be Bird's greatest achievement because great players RARELY do well as coaches. No patience. Bird was Coach Of The Year his first year.
Larry was beating the best defenders in the league, and he wanted to play against the best.
Thanks for creating a reaction to my content :)
Bird Is left handed and shoots right handed wow!
Love to see a Making The Case for Bill Russell reaction.
Do a reaction video of all of Larry’s fights
Caitlin has class. She doesn't whine or complain, and isn't a dirty player. She can win without being a bully. She also gives respect and compliments to other players.
Can I be honest
We love Larry bird because he was unapologetically him Larry didn’t just give you respect you earned it. What’s a dirty player because from my point of view. AR has never been a dirty player she don’t take no sh** either AR has done nothing but complement everyone she plays she said I don’t have a problem with anyone it was them or me and I choose me
Solid CC is unbelievable , she'll be getting like Larry Legend soon she's a young girl who is the best to play ❤
She good I think she will be a GREAT but personally again personally I like the style AR brings she’s unapologeticly hair she don’t care she want be the best and that’s it
I dont know a lot about the WNBA but are you talking about swagger? From what little I know, the refs.seem to call technicals on Clark if she breathes wrong. Not sure what is going on.k@SolidReacts
Red Auerbach deserves a badass video. Coach? GM? Inventor of the modern NBA? ULTIMATE DIRTY COACH/GM? YES. Yes. All of those.
1. Red Auerbach called in bomb threats to hotels of opposing teams. They say.
2. Red Auerbach tripped fire alarms of hotels of opposing teams.
3. On the road, if the Celtics were up 5with three minutes left Red would light up a victory cigar. It would enrage EVERYBODY. On the road, people would come to hate on Red. Other teams would get fired up because of that victory cigar. They would go into overdrive.
Talent scout? Greatest ever. Took a chance on a skinny center who really couldn't score but could block, rebound, steal, jump, jump QUICK, and run. And Cousy taught him how to handle the ball. Tommy Heineken taught him a little jump hook. Took a chance on Bird, who only looked weak to everyone else. Took a chance on McHale, another weird looking big man.
Invented the 6th man. Fast break. The extra pass that got everyone involved.
Invented a "share the wealth" mentality. Civil rights?
Celtics first to draft a black guy, Chuck Cooper. Who had to do a stint in the Army after being drafted by Boston.
Red first to start 5 black players...then bring in HAVLICEK as the 6th man. Boston had the first black pro team coach in Bill Russell, player-coach 67 68 69.
Boston Celtics did everything right but still had the rep as a white team Because of the CITY of Boston and the racial unrest because of busing.. So the Celtics had to pay for the sins of the city. Even though they were the first in every category of promoting blacks. And Jewish Red Auerbach who once punched Moses Malone. Red punched Moses Malone. During an exhibition brawl with the Sixers.
Sportswriters call Red the only genius in teamsports.
Dudes Stockton and magic in one man
I’m saying that would be crazy as heck to see
@@AyySolid definitely would be
I like that analysis.
I'd say Larry Bird is the most complete passer, equally adept at short and long passes, when he passes the ball it's as if he's playing several different sports (his volleyball-style passes, baseball, american football, basketball and even a Frisbee pass I saw in a video)
MJ, KOBE, MAGIC/BIRD then maybe BRON. But Bron softened up the league but intimidating MANY number 1 Picks by slowing down building new dynasties amongst many things. And of course the worse is teaming up with Allstars and HOFers.
The Pistons were great but they might not have gotten their flowers because of how dirty them played. That is also just one of several reasons why Thomas was not selected to play on the Dream team.
As coach, Larry put his team together, a team of team players: Miller, Jackson, and Mullen. Jalen Rose was out to prove himself. And the Davis brothers made sure Rodman didn't even have a.chance. he was Missing In Action against the Bulls. His Pacers gave Chicago the most trouble since.Detroit.
CK out 4:25- see what hand he's signing with. Bird's left handed-learned bball righthanded. Phenomenal in its own right..
He writes with his left.
Hey Labron is number 1 at the flops and fake fouls. Caitlin Clark and Larry Bird both do passes like Pete “pistol” Maravich. If they hade a 3 pt line when Maravich he’d been averaging 68 pts per game. Today’s basketball isn’t as physical or trash talk like the 80’s
Auerbach rhymes with power back. And he is as legendary as any five players other than Russell and Bird.
If Dominique had not been injured at the time of the Dream Team, do you think he would have been chosen to be on the team, and if so, who do you think would have been left out?
Probably Drexler.
@@justinpitcock5312 So, not necessarily a SF?
@@dutchtea8354 Drexler was originally a small forward, he could also play shooting guard.
@@justinpitcock5312 Yes, but he and MJ were the only ones listed as SG on the roster. Do you think Mullins would move to SG?
@@dutchtea8354 with the versatility of players in that team, I don’t think it mattered, especially with who they were playing against.
I figure the Sixer Barkley wouldn't name was Marc Iavorroni. He was on the team to take out franchise players by making them lose their cool.
Bird was unique. He wasn't the GOAT. Let's not play with that. But the man was different. Maybe used fundamentals better than anyone. As far as how the game was meant to be played, he might have been the GOAT of fundamentals.
Caitlin Clark is the female version of Larry Bird, she does it all, points, assists, rebounds, and she can shoot it from anywhere on the court. She just needs to develop a trash talk game, but in today's soft WNBA and NBA, they are calling technicals on players who trash talk or get too physical. Just like Larry and Magic saved the NBA in the 80's, Caitlin Clark is saving the WNBA today. 🏀💪🤙✌️
I think they are trying to make Caitlin and Angel the Larry and Magic of the WNBA, especially in the media with all the stupid race stuff they tried with Larry and Magic they are trying with Caitlin and Angel and both are like Larry and Magic they don’t care and want to play into the sports media BS. I’m from Naptown and I hope they build a team that can take what Tamika Catchings started and go to a new level of winning.
Facts on them making magic and Larry all over again
I’m an angel Reese fan. I think C. Clark is great, but I like the way i angel plays better.
@@AyySolid they are both great, I hope people/fans recognize the talent and watch their games as they develop into hall of famers. Both have talent to take the league into the next level.
They will NEVER be Magick and Bird. Why? They lack RESPECT. Yes Bird and Magick were rivals but they RESPECTED each other. They both said the other were THE GREATEST PLAYERS. THATS RESPECT. Something the women players or even today's NBA players DO NOT HAVE.
What is the deal on Clark? I don't know the wnba
Had Lenny Bias not died, the Bad Boy Pistons wouldn't even be a thing. Such a waste.
Let's be honest about one thing. New York City is the media capitol of the world, followed by Chicago and L.A. And L.A. might be AS.big,.just in different ways than New York.
And the Yankees have dominated the sport of baseball seemingly like no one else. Babe Ruth is the baseball GOAT, and the New York media will never let anyone forget it.
In 1970, when the Knicks won, I have read that New.York hyped that series up so much that it might as well have neen the first game.ever.played, according to culture/sports experts. You know, guys who spend their time analyzing who wins and why and.how.we.come.to.take.the.opinion of New York City sports-writers and.broadcasters and people around the country who work FOR.a New York home office.
These experts in sports/culture were the first in America to say that if we loved hockey the way we love other sports, our.minds.would have.been.blown by Wayne.Gretzky. He would be.on.the.tip.of everyone's tongue when asked who the greatest athletes of all time are.
But I don't know hockey beyond.the Bruins so Gretzky is a non factor. I can't even say WHY he is God in Canada.
But back to New York. They invented The NBA in 1970 and pretended the 1960s never happened in basketball.
So.that is one factor.to.remember about New York/Chicago/L.A and their.axis.of info or the lack of it when it comes to sports.
And besides their huge numbers of Yankee/Dodger/Giants/Mets world series victories., the NYC media won't let anyone forget that Joe DiMaggio performed the greatest feat of athleticism-that-can-be-measured by man.
He hit.safely in 56 consecutive games..Statistically that is impossible. Look at it. No one is as close as Rose and.Keeler, each with 44.game.streaks. it is a record that no one gets close to with each generation. No one is closing in on that number that I know of.
All of which is to say that if the Celtics had been the New York Celtics since 1946 when the NBA started, they would be as lauded as the Yankees/Dodgers/Giants/Mets domination.
😚 The Celtics don't play for New York, though, They play for.Boston. Boston? Like Atlanta for so many years, Boston has to stand.for several states, from Connecticut to Maine. And...Boston?
Boston is or was the smallest town to have all 4 sports represented by their own team. Baseball, basketball, football, and hockey.
But....Boston? It is a big college town. Harvard, BC, BU, Northeastern etc etc. How can that small town not only support 4 teams, but in the 21st century, Boston somehow has been the dominant city in Sports. Patriots and Red Sox have 6 and 4.titles since 2001. Celtics 2 and Bruins 1. And the Sox accomplished a.DiMaggio when they reeled off 4 in a row over the Yankees in 2004.
And.so.if the Celtics were New.York City there would be no GOAT Talk. Bill Russell would be pounded into us as the GOAT. No questions allowed. But number 2 on the GOAT list would probably be up for grabs. Maybe. Maybe possibly. It depends on the athlete and the team. Knowing
New York, Larry would seal.that spot because that is how Red Auerbach saw it. And.a.New York Auerbach would be Albert Einstein; he would never be considered wrong about anything. "Draft Russell then sell your wife and kids.to get Bird." And the guy who invented the modern NBA to suit the kinds of teams he dreamed to put together would know, right? When Russell came up from college, everyone(coaches, scouts, GMs) passed because Russell didn't score. Only Auerbach saw thru that.to the.modern world. Give the ball to the scorers. Block shots..Rebound. Be.a.demon in the ten feet around the net. Fight for it.
Other teams are the enemy. Have at least one enforcer.
So the New York Celtics would be like the Yankees. Our DNA would tell us Russell and Bird are one and.two, with one getting the ball to two, and.two almost never missed from 79 to 86. And Red might possibly be the one Coach to push Bird one way and pull in the other so that he avoided injury.
But he didn't and Bird felt the need.to dive for every loose ball. And.Carr and.Maxwell were the enforcers but Larry stood up for himself.
..But if he had played for the New.York Celtics, anyone who messed with Larry would get got. You think Mafia guys don't like sports? They may be blind to teams when it comes to betting, but a team like The Celtics coached by a guy like Auerbach would inspire the hopes and dreams of even the most hardened tough guy.And I am not kidding. And Auerbach is the exact kind of coach who would welcome the help of organized crime since he loved to needle other teams in the road with a premature victory cigar. He also loves calling in Bomb scares and paying his lackeys to trip.the fire alarms at hotels housing the visiting enemy in Boston. HE also punched Moses Malone during that massive brawl in Philly where Cedric Maxwell went into the stands after a heckler, where Bird punched Billy Cunningham.
...And.no.fines from Auerbach or any Celtics coach.
..So let us have no more GOAT talk. The media have.decreed the NY Celtics as the basketball Yankees and Russell and Bird as Ruth and...Gehrig maybe.i don't know if Gehrig was that good. DiMaggio? Mantle? Whoever. But that pause would be sealed off from criticism. At three, start guessing and arguing.
Like I said, I will ring your doorbell and run if you don't address the Russell issue and why his 11 pro rings, 2 college rings, 5 MVPs, and Olympic Gold don't seem to matter to people. These people seem to know a lot....until Russell. "Well, that was in the sixties before fire and gravity were invented and players were shorter way back then, like under five feet, and the court was 10 feet by five feet, and players smoked and used wheelchairs and the circle hadn't been invented so the ball was bulging at different areas, and each team only had 1 ball and there were only 4 teams: the Celtics, the Lakers, the Globetrotters, and the Generals."
And it is like Henry Ford invented the aitomobile, the modern car, in 1910, but the car be invented was a Maserati or Porsche or Lambo or Ferrari. Right off the bat, dude makes a car and it is so good that it will never be improved upon. How mind oggling is that? Red Auerbach invents the modern NBA. In 1956. But he is stuck. He has an interracial team of Hall of Famers. He has the first and maybe best Superstar Point Guard in Bob Cousey who did everything point guards do today. Better. BUT HIS TEAM CANNOT GET THE BALL. SO he looks at this weirdo kid everybody is looking at, too. But everyone passes on him. Why? He can't score. He's too skinny. He looks like he's made of glass.
But Auerbach sees a rebounder. A blocker. A 6'9" kid who can leap because only Manute Bol years later was skinnier. He saw a nightmare for other teams. He can get 48" high and stay there. He can knock the ball to his streaking greyhounds.
Red invented the 6th man, the fast break, the screen, the backdoor, the pick and roll, the give and go, the outlet, the outlet pass, moving without the ball. Auerbach looked at Russell and thought "Maybe he can't shoot but he can do all these other things I'm knventing." He did it.
Not as many teams means every team is loaded with Hall of Famers. How many MVPs does Oscar Robertson have? Elgan Baylor. Jerry West. Bob Petit. Lanier. Willis Reed. Those loaded Knicks teams of the late 60s with Reed DeBuscherre Bradley Frazier Monroe. All the Laker teams that ALWAYS won the West. Players looked at all that and said Russell. It's Russell.
14 teams means every player is super-good. Too good. Like Russell told Jordan, Steve Kerr couldn't play in the 60s NBA. HE named others that Jordan didn't mention because they didn't have more than one ring.
I am going to praise Bill Russell until you address the 11 titles, 2 college titles, Olympic Gold, 5 MVPs (regular season). Russell wasn't built for today's game? RUSSELL wasn't built for HIS OWN TIMES!! He was just 6'9" in an era with Wilt, Lanier, etc. He had a 48" vertical leap BUT his leap was FAST. A fast jump is more effective than any number of feet you can jump. Just ask anyone who ever got into a jump situation with Dennis Johnson.
And defense? Blocked blocked blocked shots. Steals. Rebounds. Speed is always everything. Again, ask anyone (like Magic) whom 6'4" DJ guarded. Russell had the speed. He was on the college track and field team, too.
And those MVP's.... The PLAYERS selected the regular season MVP. They saw the names on the rosters of those teams Boston put on the court, those Hall of Fame ENTIRE teams, and said "Russell makes that team. He's the chef."
Not as many teams? 10? 14?
Jordan politically reminds me of Wilt Chamberlain. MJ said Republicans buy bball shoes, too. He was out to offend no one. And all his greatness seems centered on Michael Jordan. I dont know....maybe it is because Magic and Bird played on established great teams with great histories. Maybe it is the number of assists. Wilt didnt offend anyone in the sixties. Russell sided openly with Ali during the draft resistance thing. Russell spoke out about civil rights and marched with Civil Rights Workers.
And Jewish Red Auerbach encouraged him to do so. He actually encouraged all the Celtics to do that. ... Then he would sneak off and call in a bomb threat to the hotel where the opposing team was staying. Or wait until 2 a.m. and pay someone to set off the fire alarm in that hotel.
Mike never beat larry
DomInique is my favorite non-Celtic. He and Isaiah Thomas should have been on that first Dream Team. Take out Malone and Stockton. Tell Jordan to shut up about Isiah. Keep a cattle prod ready to go Isaiah started acting like the kind of player EVERYONE apparently In the NBA hated with a passion.
Nice to see you again Solid. Can you give me your discord link, because I clicked on it but it seems not to work.
I would like to put you videos links of football players (soccer) and I am sure you will enjoy them.
The link will not work, the best would be to space the link with spaces or a period because YT will delete the comment if you put the direct link.
Thanks in advance.
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@@AyySolid Thank you Solid 👍