This was a decent movie, the biggest problem was that it expected you to know everything about the lore. When my family watched it, my dad said it would have made no sense to him if I hadn't been there to explain it all.
Thats why the movie flopped, Warcraft 2 should be released on the story of the Crown prince of Lordaeron, Arthas. He needs no lore to be explained, people will just know him as a prince who went to war for his people but fell to the path of damnation
@@minestarss5112 No. If you're gonna tackle Arthas story, it should be at part 4. Because part 2 would be for thrall and then part 3 for the second legion invasion.
Yeah that's why arcane(league of legends animated series) successful and we'll known compare to warcraft movie because due the blizzard stupid decision.
I never played any warcraft game and know nothing about the lore, but I still enjoyed and understood the movie in a way. There are just some people led by an evil sorcerer who are looking for a new place to live. But too bad there are already human there so fight and epic battles. I was too amazed by how well the orcs were animated to think about the flaws of the scenario xD. But I'm sure this movie is way more incredible for the one who knows, I feel like it was made for the fans and it was a success.
Much better. This left me wanting a sequel, especially one for which they up the duration and flesh out its characters. Game of Thrones left me signing a petition for the writers to fuck off, and shitting myself out of the terminal illness it inflicted upon me. I had to watch all those hour long RUclips videos of numerous RUclipsrs bashing it just for consolation.
@@tktvr9703 its the only warcraft movie. Now we wont get a war of the ancients the sundering movie. That would have been like a lord of the rings scale.
@@solwen they didnt quite ignore it. This is a part of the warcraft novel. The rise of the horde i think. But they miscast it badly. Although the animation is decent
As much as I enjoyed the film, I used to think this was probably the dumbest tactical decision ever portrayed on film... Until The Long Night in Game of Thrones 🤦🏻♂️
Elves running towards the uruk and getting impaled while being excellent archers in 2 towers lotr was the dumbest for me, GOT set the bar subterranean,
@@leftjab276 I don't think it was dumb. If you look closely at Helm's Deep map, you will understand the reason why they decided to do so. In fact, it was very reasonable.
@@leftjab276 i dont think it was dumb, they are trying to limit the amount of uruk through the wall by pushing them back, that would be easier to deal with because only a small amount of uruk can get through that part of the wall (considered the elves are good fighter but limited in number, so a small fight would be better). they cant just use bow and arrow because the uruk would use shield and start pushing forward. so they have to emerge into a close range combat (in case you are talking about the part when the uruk bomb the wall and got through)
2:30 That soldier next to the king looks so Badass with the sword and the pistol. 3:00 He really has combat skills and makes an orc go through the portal with a shot hahaha
@@fantasy5590 the only advantage of the human army,discipline and skill...hold the line,with cold blood and seeing the guy next to you died,but you resist
I just love at the beginning how you can clearly tell which town or village is shown with that aerial view, due to the terrain and landmarks such as bridges, fields or lakes.
0:33 I’ve never paid attention to the most important detail of all, if you see on your right and the whole field you’ll see they straight up crucified the frost wolf clan Orcs as a warning and to show fear in the hearts of their enemies!
Yeah, makes no sense lorewise. They used humans from the real world and not warcraft humans. Warcraft humans are taller and have more muscle than we have. The average orc is in fact just slightly stronger than the average warcraft human.
Sniper or boom stick soldiers like range units always have close quarters weapons like swords but when in a defensive position a team of two soldiers this will include the shooter and the loader and most of the guns/boom sticks have small like beyonets and the boom stick soldiers have shields for protection and somewhere in the background in one scene a soldier is holding a boomstick fires and has a sword for the orc right in his face
To everyone that is calling to their lack of tactics and formations, if you watched the film you would understand the state they are actually in. They do their best with what they have while the rest of the Alliance sits idly by. This is essentially Leonidas, going against Xerxes. Shield walls and square formations are pretty good, especially with a few dozen Dwarven hand cannons to boot. It's a lighting raid to save their captured townsfolk and get outta there. Meanwhile Khadgar and Lothar are battling Medivh and his clay golem while he is chanting an incantation to help Gul'dan summon the rest of the Horde from Draenor. There is no time to prepare this grand invasion force and bring all this equipment, it's now or the Horde will swarm like a tide over Azeroth.
That is no excuse, going into battle without using any strategy, tactics or formations at all, especially against a superior adversary or at the very least a numerically superior enemy, is suicidal. Before going off, I realize this is a movie about a high fantasy game. I'm simply offering counter arguments here. First off, charging as they did in your typical Hollywood fashion, would render your troops tired before the lines even met, not a good start, doubly so considering the amount of plate mail they are wearing. Realistically armies would march towards each other while remaining in formation, usually followed by a skirmish phase and then a clashing of the lines. The Roman legions were known to perform charges but usually only when the lines were very close. Another reason armies did not charge at such distances was because it would break up the unit or army's formation. Formations aren't just there to look cool, they are integral to this kind of fighting. Fighting in your typical free for all Hollywood battle would be a massacre. Being in a formation allows the commander to know where his troops are as well as what state they are in, keeps them in order while also allowing for better communication. Try giving commands to your troops when they are running left right and center, it's already hard enough ordering a formation around over all the screaming, fighting and dying. It offers the troops better protection against enemy infantry and cavalry, boosts morale and usually keeps them alive longer. It also prevents enemies from getting in your rear... from the front. When the lines in the movie clash, you literally see orcs running past and into what looks like the middle of their blob (won't even deign to call it a formation) and start tossing guys around. From there they're in a great position to start stabbing guys in their backs, shattering morale and having everyone running for the hills. If they were smart and were in tight formations the orcs wouldn't be able to do that so easily, the Alliance army could use its advantage in range weapons to slow and dampen the charge of the orcs, then engage them in melee while the cavalry rolls around and does hammer and anvil strikes into their flanks or rear. Rinse and repeat, your troops advance over their dead while taking nowhere near as many casualties. If the orc moral breaks and they turn around and run, run 'em over with the cavalry.
Personally I think based on how little Alliance went to this rescue it should of failed. The Orcs would of overwhelmed them, especially with so many legendary fighters. I heard there is a second film finally being worked on. Not the greatest film ever but it's fun.
Idk, I think every battle where people rush dumbly into spears and swords is a shit battle. Once read that in the old days, people stopped before the foe and started stabbing. Chaos only happened when the cavalry or so broke the formation or whatever. I see it so much that soldiers run into what is certain death. Very unlikely.
@@CanadianLegionaire 1. I think we can completely discard the argument about troops getting tired. Based on the size of the equipment human troops use it is quite obvious that humans of this world have higher base strength and stamina than normal humans. 2. This is ignoring the purpose of the mission. To rescue their people to stop them from being used as fuel for the portal. Had they simply sat in positions outside the camp they would have been overwhelmed by endless reinforcements. Quick advance into the camp to secure the prisoners was a fundamental part to the success of the mission. Also as we can see, once they get into the camp the legion very quickly does assume formation.
@@Luthies 1) doesnt mean they wouldnt get tired eventually. Just the heat created by running such a distance in full plate mail and then fighting would accelerate the process. At the very least it would wear them out quicker. Also why do it? Why waste that energy even if they dont get immediatly tired from it? You're going into battle you want to preserve your troops strength for all long as possible or so a wise leader would at least. 2) Again, realistically that is no excuse. If this wasnt a fantasy movie they would have been butchered at the initial charge causing their mission to fail. You see how orcs penetrate deep into the alliance's "formation" when both lines collide. That would create chaos and destroy morale. You're right they did get in formation after they got to their objective and it seemed to be quite effective, how many more soldiers would be alive by that point had they advanced in formation, and how much more effective would they have been? In history, when one side simply charged a well formed opponent, who do you think won most of the time? I just want to point again that I realize that this is a fantasy movie based on a fanatsy game franchise. My arguments are solely for realisms sake and because I disagreed with the original poster. Also, movies like this has made many people believe that medieval warfare was actually conducted in such a fashion so I like to corrext whenever possible.
3:00 I would love a deleted scene where we see a merchant shit himself seeing that dead orc that got shot and fell through the portal pop up out and land on his cart
For people not into warcraft this was strong pass movie and ...well ....no offense, but people into warcraft are not the most socialy active group nor the ones which can get lot of friends into cinema with them to begin with.... so money wise it was terrible idea and only shocking thing is that somebody expected this to make way more then 500mil worldwide...
@@mishainutrouch, but very precise aim... But still ouch. Thanks for the honesty by the way... I truly said it because it's very harsh but at the same heartwarming somehow...
Many people don't understand that if the orcs were on the offensive, the humans will obviously use defensive formations using their guns. But the humans were the offense here, because they had no other choice. The humans knew they were going into a suicide mission to prevent further orcs from entering the portal by rescuing the people. Go watch the damn movie before commenting.
Also, the humans are in fucking half plate armor, even granting that the orcs are bigger and more dangerous then a human in a brawl when on even footing. They orcs *arent* on even footing, plate armor is terrifying. The orcs should be (and it appears were) absolutely demolished by such an enemy force.
Even when on the offensive, they still should be in a formation and trying to keep long distance as long as possible so that they can use their guns as effectively as possible, and should be firing in a volley, not at free will.
Plus the guns are a relatively new dwarf invention and the humans wouldn’t have any solid doctrine for them. One thing I don’t understand is why didn’t they just throw everything they had at the gate instead of only taking a small fraction of their army.
@@sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214 Also they used the wrong kind of humans. They used real humans instead of also using cgi to make azerothi humans who are larger and stronger. They wouldn't have been pushed over like nothing when they clashed with the orcs.
@@Ianz505 they had lower numbers, and the hostages are scattered all around the place. They needed to hurry because portal Need to pay attention more man
idc what people say about this movie, its absolutely perfect in my eyes. the editing, quality, story, acting, everything is a chef's kiss. i love this movie so so very much
Wish they'd been able to make more of these movies. I'm probably in the minority, but I fucking love this movie. I was hoping they'd be able to get to the Warcraft 3 timeline eventually. I played that campaign so much as a kid and would have loved some version of it in live action.
Yep, and if you go by Total War: Warhammer 1/2 as well, Guldan is very like Azhag the Slaughterer. However, The Empire would use actual effective and cohesive tactics against Greenskins rather than a free for all one on one melee. An earlier scene in the movie shows there are Dwarfs and Elves allied or friendly enough to the humans but I guess, unlike Warhammer, they're not enough of a thing or too good to help out when the world is threatened. Tbh I never got into playing WoW, I'm not keen on MMO's and the IP was originally supposed to be a Warhammer one, the deal fell through and Blizzard just robbed a lot of ideas instead.
Some humans got some epic melee kills at the frontal clash. At 1:08 the dude in the middle slashes the orcs belly killing him, and at 1:11 in the bottom middle another human kills an orc with a sword strike near neck, absolute badasses
"I prefer our enemies armed with an axe, not a child." -Durotan of the Frostwolves In World of Warcraft we saw the first depictions of Orcs not as mindless villains, but as an honorable if barbarian people similar to the Vikings. Violent yes, but some of them still capable of being good people and doing the right thing by the innocent. JT
The orcs are about 40 times stronger (estimating from the orc who tossed the horse earlier) than the humans, so it's the peak of insanity to fight them mano a mano. Arrows (with poison to boot), spears, trebuchets, longer bore gunpowder barrels and the like would be the stand-off weapons to use, not closing to fight face to face.
According to wow lore Warcraft humans descend from the vrykul which themselves descend from titans so humans in Warcraft are stronger than rl humans the thing that makes the orcs have an edge is the fel corruption
@@abdennourlaib4519 Ok honestly I have always hated how oversized warcraft weapons and shoulder pads are, but honestly this makes me feel better about it lol.
The reality is a little bit more complicated. The original Horde weren't there to survive, they were a warband directed to destroy Azeroth's defenses for the Burning Legion to arrive. Some clans were honorable, but the idea with the orcs was being an army for the Legion.
@@alejandroyavatbf some of the clans did see the invasion as necessary for their survival due to Draenor's desolation. But again, the orcs were just means to an end
Medieval war tactics : *place light Infantry in the front, put heavy Infantry in the back for reserves and put archers in the front or back and put cavalry on the flanks* Fiction medieval tactics : haha guys let's charge and we will win gg ez no re
They should've made the movie with the length of lotr and the hobbit because I fear they had to rush a lot of good stories and moments and made the movie shorter than it should've been... making it longer would definitely make it better
Roué Gorissen where does he compare it with the hobbit or lord of the rings he only says the warcraft movies need to have the same movie lenght as those movies
they're supposed to be hulking brutes, they're the smallest of grond's children (grond was a huge elemental rock giant created by aggramar the titan to bring order to a primeval draenor which was threatened to be consumed by intelligent plants, long story short from grond descended the magnarons, from magnarons sprang to life the gronn and the ogronn and from these 2 the ogres came to be and last were the orcs)
@@ther0ckstar70 I wouldn't say it was quite that bad. People universally agreed that all video game movies were bad up until Detective Pikachu came out and was followed by Sonic the Hedgehog. This one wasn't great, but it had cool things about it and it certainly wasn't anywhere near as bad as some of the past pieces of garbage based on video games that came out in the past. For example, I tried out the Silent Hill movie with low expectations since I was aware of what I just stated, figuring that it could still be reasonably entertaining if I set my sights low. I couldn't even finish it. It just became too boring.
Since this movie featured the first encounter with the Orcs and we have yet to see Paladins, if there was a 2nd movie Idk if they would show us the undead right away ;=;
Glorious awesomnes. No long range ranged weaponry, no siege machines, no necromancy and undead, no deamons, no fancy magic, no air forces, no heavy artillery and walls. Just face to face battle
Just think how good this movie could have been if the people making it had read the books or played the game or knew the characters or learned the lore or cared at all.
While I still wanted more, this movie was still good as it was decent, I think. It definitely hit my marks with these battles. Still tho, I hope more movies about Warcraft happen. This one felt too short while the lore within is way too expansive, one movie would never been enough to fully explain everything that happens in actual lore
U know what i find stupid. If the alliance anticipatd a portal for the civilians to escape to stormwind, then uh why couldnt the alliance station reserve troops at the end of the portal so to reinforce the ones fighting the orcs. ?????
Fair point. Man i was really expecting the Stormwind forces to be far numerous, it is there territory to begin with. Plus there was a scene in the movie where the generals of the Alliance (Human forces) referred to their "Legions" being stationed at various locations
Finally, a fantasy production involving LATE medieval plate armor accompanied by period-appropriate firearms. Both LOTR and GOT universes should have at least had cannon and arquebuses.
Blizzard should've start their storyline to Arthas, he is the most recognizable, renowned and best hero in warcraft lore. Blizzard, i tell u, the cinematic in Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne is STILL the best of all cinematic you have made in Warcraft. Not because of quality, bad graphics compared you have made today but it IS Arthas , man!! We WANT it!
Yes, from the beginning but no one cares. Most of the gamers dont know about the lore. It is more about the story and downfall of Arthas. It is the HIGHLIGHT of all warcraft franchise
they did NOT follow the lore in the closest with this movie...so might as well just start @ Arthas. Only thing this movie has right about the original lore are the names of the characters and locations.
I agree, this movie sucked. They should have used less CGI and used real costumes like LOTR did, so much more realistic looking. And yes, they should have started with the Arthas storyline. No one gives a shit about WC 1-2. WC3 is the most interesting.
Arwho ? They started with the beginning and not by the middle of the story and it's good. It's not because a bunch of young " " "gamer" " " don't care about why and how Warcraft became a huge franchise that they should destroy the lore by starting in the middle and do prequels as fan service. It's like LOTR beginning with the last fight.
Me and my brother used to play Warcraft 1 & 2 when we were in junior high and then we watched this movie at the cinema as adults. Even though the movie bombed and we'll never get a sequel it was still a memorable experience
0:36 orcs getting out of the huts charging againts the enemy 0:51 orcs, yet again getting out of their huts charging againts the enemy Whoever who was in Charge of contuinity in this movie: hahaha orcs go brrr
Orcs are physically big and the director never shy away from using that size over small humans...man they are like tanks...i think that approach makes humans effort great ❤
Imagine If that was all the soldiers including the ones inside the castle, just imagine if they all died because the portal closed. The castle would be left defenseless.
Yet, they would still get their asses handed to them by Durotan 😂 but TBF Durotan himself was large for an orc as well as his son and he managed to beat Doomhammer in several challenges
Yeah, it suffered from wanting too much action, or from having too short a runtime depending on how you see it. Not sure why they couldn't just extend it by an hour or so to flesh out the characters and world a bit. It'd have made it far better. Still good though.
I liked this part because I really love it when a king fights alongside with his soldiers. It just looks pathetic in my eyes when a king says big words in the back while soldiers do all the work 😑
I think a story about Arthas would be both better for Warcraft lovers and for people who don't know about Warcraft lore. I can even imagine the scenes, the first one would obviously be when Arthas rode with invincible in the snow and the horse damaged its leg and he had to put it down. Would be an epic introduction to the movie. And I would reckon it'd be a trilogy. First the rise&fall of Arthas, Second the war against the elves and just after he's been corrupted and the final being the WOTLK expansion but more so the end of it and the invasion of Icecrown. Still would be hard to translate into film. But this Warcraft movie was hard for me to follow even knowing about the Lore, I wonder what people who didn't know the lore thought about it.
that idea for the beginning shot would actually be perfect. but they should make it in 2 parts atleast, for the rise and fall of lich king. or a trilogy for the rise, reign and fall of the lich king.
I kinda rationalize it as orcs not being confident with swords, and she was also weaker as a half-orc so maybe they didn't give her any time with weapons
@@Haduuna_Wrur She would be weak for an orc, but not for a human. Basically, if an orc's strength is a 10 and a human is a 5, Garona would be a 7. But her being inexperience with swords is a decent explanation too.
Should’ve held their ground and let loose some volleys with those guns, then advanced in formation with shields locked. Discipline trumps brute force any day of the week, especially in a narrow valley like they were in.
Even if they did that they would still have been overwhelmed since the Orcs outnumber them AND are physically far stronger than them. If they didn't rush then Gul'dan would have enough time to summon even more reinforcements. Either way the humans still lose.
The idea was to disrupt the orcs in making a solid frontal line, they are physically stronger and had more reach than humans, so making a shield wall formation for the human is a bad idea that would just get them pinched and picked off on both sides
@@ericktamayo2570 Not in this case. The humans could've made a phalanx and had archers behind, which would've been much more effective as hundreds of arrows could be release every few seconds over a small area. Single shot weapons were obviously not as effective as the traditionally bow strategy, especially since bows can be reloaded in a matter of seconds. In war, time is money.
The first meeting of orcs/soldiers shows the orcs rampaging through human lines. But when a thin line guards the portal all of a sudden the orcs can't get through.
I think it would be tactically and logically better decision to ask elves, dwarves and other nations for help. Also it could be better if they used the portal to send more soldiers.
The sight of Alliance Foot Soldier's shooting large flintlocks was very satisfying to me, while I would've preferred to see the Dwarves with guns, this was an ok decision.
If this were like Total war, I'd assemble the riflemen into a firing line after the initial clash while the infantry forms a shield wall and slowly advances on the enemy.
Shield wall and slow advance won't work if your enemy are 7-8ft big bass bulky orcs, the idea was not to let them form up and pinched them. 1 full swing of an orc could literally throw out 5 men. What they did here is to pierced immediately into the center divide the full strength by making the orcs fight one by one on different direction get the objective, exit. they weren't planning to win. In the lore humanity had to use more dwarven tech more magic to beat the orc horde .
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Oh this is how Shrek's ancestors died and fought Lord Farquad's army
actually farquad's dad and his army
Well it yes but also no in the same time because Shrek is Orge not actually a Ork (yeah I know it a joke)
غ عر الحين مار الو عنده شد إم يكاه مار ماندري الونه ال ر قرب
@@hasnaalshammri4490 English please
@@hasnaalshammri4490 Taliban banwadi 😂
Humans could win this easily with "whosyourdaddy"
Yeah two cheaters in this game.
Orcs using pointbreak
Humans using whosyoudaddy
Haaahhahahahahaha.....indeed.
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Greed is good ahha
@@zutchandreivillamor2203 that's why orc can be many after 2 minute
This was a decent movie, the biggest problem was that it expected you to know everything about the lore. When my family watched it, my dad said it would have made no sense to him if I hadn't been there to explain it all.
Thats why the movie flopped, Warcraft 2 should be released on the story of the Crown prince of Lordaeron, Arthas. He needs no lore to be explained, people will just know him as a prince who went to war for his people but fell to the path of damnation
@@minestarss5112 No. If you're gonna tackle Arthas story, it should be at part 4. Because part 2 would be for thrall and then part 3 for the second legion invasion.
it was ahh... shit. unfocused and about 30 mins too long.
Yeah that's why arcane(league of legends animated series) successful and we'll known compare to warcraft movie because due the blizzard stupid decision.
I never played any warcraft game and know nothing about the lore, but I still enjoyed and understood the movie in a way. There are just some people led by an evil sorcerer who are looking for a new place to live. But too bad there are already human there so fight and epic battles.
I was too amazed by how well the orcs were animated to think about the flaws of the scenario xD.
But I'm sure this movie is way more incredible for the one who knows, I feel like it was made for the fans and it was a success.
Still a better ending than game of thrones.
yes lol 😂😂😂😂😂
Oof
Still a better love story than twilight🤷♂️
Much better. This left me wanting a sequel, especially one for which they up the duration and flesh out its characters. Game of Thrones left me signing a petition for the writers to fuck off, and shitting myself out of the terminal illness it inflicted upon me. I had to watch all those hour long RUclips videos of numerous RUclipsrs bashing it just for consolation.
You seriously came onto a completely unrelated video to bitch about Game of Thrones? You little babies are getting tiresome.
These guys be cheating. There's a 90 food cap.
poinbreak
Multiple players maybe
Gul'dan cheats!
90 food cap but that’s for each tribe and there’s multiple tribes.
@@alyssadegracia5288 even if i freaking put that cheat i cant put amymore troops after 100
Hey, you know the big green orks, that best us in hand-to-hand combat and prefer a big brawl? Let's not use tactics or formations against them.
Lol maybe the player just did a general select-attack move against their base. This is Warcraft after all lol.
this king is a noob though first time pvp
*when you right click on enemy and completely forget about troops you sent*
Alliance logic mate they are still like that :D
Logic is for the intelligent
One footman got a double kill on the gate, while another sat and watch an orc break a man's neck in front of him. The duality of man.
The guy who 2v1 the orcs deserved a medal
Ohhhh man. This movie could have started a warcraft trilogy or somthing. Too bad they dropped the ball.
ye one of my fav films
they may of dropped the ball but it was my favourite Warcraft Movie...
@@tktvr9703 its the only warcraft movie. Now we wont get a war of the ancients the sundering movie. That would have been like a lord of the rings scale.
It was doomed when they decided to totally ignore Warcraft 1 lore
@@solwen they didnt quite ignore it. This is a part of the warcraft novel. The rise of the horde i think. But they miscast it badly. Although the animation is decent
3:01 There’s the guy beside the king, with a sword and a blunderbuss and he’s kicking alot of ass.
True badass
Those solders had guts, even though the enemy is much stronger and bigger yet they did not flee, respect.
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As much as I enjoyed the film, I used to think this was probably the dumbest tactical decision ever portrayed on film...
Until The Long Night in Game of Thrones 🤦🏻♂️
Total | Recon L.M.A.O
Elves running towards the uruk and getting impaled while being excellent archers in 2 towers lotr was the dumbest for me, GOT set the bar subterranean,
Left Jab Yeah... I’ve always looked past those flaws, but you’re right lol
@@leftjab276 I don't think it was dumb. If you look closely at Helm's Deep map, you will understand the reason why they decided to do so. In fact, it was very reasonable.
@@leftjab276 i dont think it was dumb, they are trying to limit the amount of uruk through the wall by pushing them back, that would be easier to deal with because only a small amount of uruk can get through that part of the wall (considered the elves are good fighter but limited in number, so a small fight would be better). they cant just use bow and arrow because the uruk would use shield and start pushing forward. so they have to emerge into a close range combat (in case you are talking about the part when the uruk bomb the wall and got through)
2:30 That soldier next to the king looks so Badass with the sword and the pistol.
3:00 He really has combat skills and makes an orc go through the portal with a shot hahaha
That's how infantry should be potrayed. A well trained soldiers.
@@fantasy5590 the only advantage of the human army,discipline and skill...hold the line,with cold blood and seeing the guy next to you died,but you resist
The most badass soldiers i ever seen
Hence he's part of the King's guards, an elite soldier
@@beermaster3359 the advantage is not only that but stone cold will to live on for their kingdom
If you look at the other areas more than the main characters, you can see them reloading and standing toe to toe with the orcs.
Detalles
@@saydaorellanagutierrez7004 oh yes, even the little details matter. And good to check out when you look at other movies.
Sorry this is two years ago and in other scenes including this one, you can see them winning their one on ones with Orcs, so that’s also cool.
I just love at the beginning how you can clearly tell which town or village is shown with that aerial view, due to the terrain and landmarks such as bridges, fields or lakes.
0:33 I’ve never paid attention to the most important detail of all, if you see on your right and the whole field you’ll see they straight up crucified the frost wolf clan Orcs as a warning and to show fear in the hearts of their enemies!
@Jason Youngkin That's messed up.
@@throwacnt7603No it isn’t, war is war
I like it how at 1:07 when the lines clash the humans just get run over
Yeah, makes no sense lorewise.
They used humans from the real world and not warcraft humans.
Warcraft humans are taller and have more muscle than we have.
The average orc is in fact just slightly stronger than the average warcraft human.
@@BavarianHobbit bitch what warcraft were you playing
@@BavarianHobbit In warcraft 3, an orc grunt can solo 2 human footmen. Orcs are, in fact, significantly stronger than the average human
@@sealdude5581 No they can't. They win a 1v1 but lose a 2v1. I played Warcraft 3 for many years. I know.
@@BavarianHobbit Everytime I've set up orcs vs footmen in a 1v2, the grunt comes out on top
I don't think its a good idea to charge into battle with guns. Especially guns that needed to be manually reloaded for every bullet.
Well the guys that used guns the most were not on the first line. Only the ones that were behind the shields of their comrades kept on shooting
agree ^ its early developmend gun, the effective range is very close
Just a Film, no Logic need. Ofc u dont charge when u have gunpowder Weapons in Front.
Sniper or boom stick soldiers like range units always have close quarters weapons like swords but when in a defensive position a team of two soldiers this will include the shooter and the loader and most of the guns/boom sticks have small like beyonets and the boom stick soldiers have shields for protection and somewhere in the background in one scene a soldier is holding a boomstick fires and has a sword for the orc right in his face
In real life they did actually charge with gun because gunmen were mixed in with the other troops you should research how battles were actually fought
To everyone that is calling to their lack of tactics and formations, if you watched the film you would understand the state they are actually in. They do their best with what they have while the rest of the Alliance sits idly by. This is essentially Leonidas, going against Xerxes. Shield walls and square formations are pretty good, especially with a few dozen Dwarven hand cannons to boot. It's a lighting raid to save their captured townsfolk and get outta there. Meanwhile Khadgar and Lothar are battling Medivh and his clay golem while he is chanting an incantation to help Gul'dan summon the rest of the Horde from Draenor. There is no time to prepare this grand invasion force and bring all this equipment, it's now or the Horde will swarm like a tide over Azeroth.
That is no excuse, going into battle without using any strategy, tactics or formations at all, especially against a superior adversary or at the very least a numerically superior enemy, is suicidal.
Before going off, I realize this is a movie about a high fantasy game. I'm simply offering counter arguments here.
First off, charging as they did in your typical Hollywood fashion, would render your troops tired before the lines even met, not a good start, doubly so considering the amount of plate mail they are wearing. Realistically armies would march towards each other while remaining in formation, usually followed by a skirmish phase and then a clashing of the lines. The Roman legions were known to perform charges but usually only when the lines were very close. Another reason armies did not charge at such distances was because it would break up the unit or army's formation. Formations aren't just there to look cool, they are integral to this kind of fighting.
Fighting in your typical free for all Hollywood battle would be a massacre. Being in a formation allows the commander to know where his troops are as well as what state they are in, keeps them in order while also allowing for better communication. Try giving commands to your troops when they are running left right and center, it's already hard enough ordering a formation around over all the screaming, fighting and dying. It offers the troops better protection against enemy infantry and cavalry, boosts morale and usually keeps them alive longer. It also prevents enemies from getting in your rear... from the front. When the lines in the movie clash, you literally see orcs running past and into what looks like the middle of their blob (won't even deign to call it a formation) and start tossing guys around. From there they're in a great position to start stabbing guys in their backs, shattering morale and having everyone running for the hills.
If they were smart and were in tight formations the orcs wouldn't be able to do that so easily, the Alliance army could use its advantage in range weapons to slow and dampen the charge of the orcs, then engage them in melee while the cavalry rolls around and does hammer and anvil strikes into their flanks or rear. Rinse and repeat, your troops advance over their dead while taking nowhere near as many casualties. If the orc moral breaks and they turn around and run, run 'em over with the cavalry.
Personally I think based on how little Alliance went to this rescue it should of failed. The Orcs would of overwhelmed them, especially with so many legendary fighters. I heard there is a second film finally being worked on. Not the greatest film ever but it's fun.
Idk, I think every battle where people rush dumbly into spears and swords is a shit battle. Once read that in the old days, people stopped before the foe and started stabbing. Chaos only happened when the cavalry or so broke the formation or whatever.
I see it so much that soldiers run into what is certain death. Very unlikely.
@@CanadianLegionaire
1. I think we can completely discard the argument about troops getting tired. Based on the size of the equipment human troops use it is quite obvious that humans of this world have higher base strength and stamina than normal humans.
2. This is ignoring the purpose of the mission. To rescue their people to stop them from being used as fuel for the portal. Had they simply sat in positions outside the camp they would have been overwhelmed by endless reinforcements. Quick advance into the camp to secure the prisoners was a fundamental part to the success of the mission. Also as we can see, once they get into the camp the legion very quickly does assume formation.
@@Luthies 1) doesnt mean they wouldnt get tired eventually. Just the heat created by running such a distance in full plate mail and then fighting would accelerate the process. At the very least it would wear them out quicker. Also why do it? Why waste that energy even if they dont get immediatly tired from it? You're going into battle you want to preserve your troops strength for all long as possible or so a wise leader would at least.
2) Again, realistically that is no excuse. If this wasnt a fantasy movie they would have been butchered at the initial charge causing their mission to fail. You see how orcs penetrate deep into the alliance's "formation" when both lines collide. That would create chaos and destroy morale. You're right they did get in formation after they got to their objective and it seemed to be quite effective, how many more soldiers would be alive by that point had they advanced in formation, and how much more effective would they have been? In history, when one side simply charged a well formed opponent, who do you think won most of the time?
I just want to point again that I realize that this is a fantasy movie based on a fanatsy game franchise. My arguments are solely for realisms sake and because I disagreed with the original poster. Also, movies like this has made many people believe that medieval warfare was actually conducted in such a fashion so I like to corrext whenever possible.
Damn, comment section is, again, full of history, war strategy and wisdom-about-everything experts.
Imagine just enjoying a movie these days
3:00 I would love a deleted scene where we see a merchant shit himself seeing that dead orc that got shot and fell through the portal pop up out and land on his cart
I saw this and was like “I think I’m gonna comment “my cabbages! D:” then saw someone beat me to it xD laughed too hard at that
Amazing
Orcs : slow . Knights : fast . Camera man : the flash .
Edited : Wow so many like and how .
Can also fly
Well, cameraman had to keep up with the best scenes.
Hola
In so shocked this movie didn’t do better. It’s a visual masterpiece.
Lul. That's a funny one.
For people not into warcraft this was strong pass movie and ...well ....no offense, but people into warcraft are not the most socialy active group nor the ones which can get lot of friends into cinema with them to begin with.... so money wise it was terrible idea and only shocking thing is that somebody expected this to make way more then 500mil worldwide...
@@mishainutrouch, but very precise aim... But still ouch. Thanks for the honesty by the way... I truly said it because it's very harsh but at the same heartwarming somehow...
It honestly deserved a sequel or 5.
When you realize they would’ve won if more orcs didn’t come out the portal
The humans were outnumbered from the start. I don't think they ever stood a chance.
@@LuckySmurf humans could of easily one against those dumb brutes if they decided to use those guns better
@@Jack-io6vw Maybe. But keep in mind that the guns were new to humans, relatively speaking. So it's likely they didn't know any better by this point.
Many people don't understand that if the orcs were on the offensive, the humans will obviously use defensive formations using their guns. But the humans were the offense here, because they had no other choice. The humans knew they were going into a suicide mission to prevent further orcs from entering the portal by rescuing the people. Go watch the damn movie before commenting.
Also, the humans are in fucking half plate armor, even granting that the orcs are bigger and more dangerous then a human in a brawl when on even footing. They orcs *arent* on even footing, plate armor is terrifying. The orcs should be (and it appears were) absolutely demolished by such an enemy force.
Even when on the offensive, they still should be in a formation and trying to keep long distance as long as possible so that they can use their guns as effectively as possible, and should be firing in a volley, not at free will.
Plus the guns are a relatively new dwarf invention and the humans wouldn’t have any solid doctrine for them. One thing I don’t understand is why didn’t they just throw everything they had at the gate instead of only taking a small fraction of their army.
@@sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214 Also they used the wrong kind of humans.
They used real humans instead of also using cgi to make azerothi humans who are larger and stronger.
They wouldn't have been pushed over like nothing when they clashed with the orcs.
@@Ianz505 they had lower numbers, and the hostages are scattered all around the place.
They needed to hurry because portal
Need to pay attention more man
The humans still did pretty good getting to the captives even thought they were outnumbered, and were way weaker than any orc.
I really need a Warcraft 2. We need a sequel to this movie!!!
Beyond the Great Portal sequel movie
Such a sequel is possible but none are ready to attempt it.
With elves, dwarves and red dragonflight, it would be very exciting to see
Opino que como película no sirve, una serie era lo indicado, ahora por su fracaso han perdido interes en meterse en los cines a Warcraft 😢
Blizzards game intros and cutscenes were far better.
Arhatu this is what i mean, why didn’t they just make the movie using the same stuff for the cinematics
@Rocksen And take a long while to make. There's a reason why they're usually only a few minutes long.
they had immigration issues
“We are going to build a wall around Azeroth, and let Orcs pay for it!”
These orcs are peaceful migrants! Look at these future artisans, masons and crafters!
#NOTOORCAPHOBIA
If i was in that war in the video i Will Be Happy cause is't so cool
Cnm
@@yaomama1163 Varian Trump
No one talks about the soldier in the 3:00 , What a badass xD (In the gate with the king)
idc what people say about this movie, its absolutely perfect in my eyes. the editing, quality, story, acting, everything is a chef's kiss. i love this movie so so very much
well and you know about wrcraft before it? Because for people not into it , it is really hard movie to get in:/
@@mishainutrit doesn’t follow the actual Warcraft story so that wouldn’t have helped you either lol
its like im watching narnia but even for a younger audience.
Wish they'd been able to make more of these movies. I'm probably in the minority, but I fucking love this movie. I was hoping they'd be able to get to the Warcraft 3 timeline eventually. I played that campaign so much as a kid and would have loved some version of it in live action.
It can be done. But, you see how things are with some people.
Problem with this movie is they crammed in too much. They just had to include the story of the orcs.
@@caelestigladii this would work better as a series tbh.
I had no idea this movie existed but damn that’s some good ol’ total war warhammer style combat if I ever saw any
Yep, and if you go by Total War: Warhammer 1/2 as well, Guldan is very like Azhag the Slaughterer. However, The Empire would use actual effective and cohesive tactics against Greenskins rather than a free for all one on one melee. An earlier scene in the movie shows there are Dwarfs and Elves allied or friendly enough to the humans but I guess, unlike Warhammer, they're not enough of a thing or too good to help out when the world is threatened. Tbh I never got into playing WoW, I'm not keen on MMO's and the IP was originally supposed to be a Warhammer one, the deal fell through and Blizzard just robbed a lot of ideas instead.
This is warcraft 1 tho
Some humans got some epic melee kills at the frontal clash. At 1:08 the dude in the middle slashes the orcs belly killing him, and at 1:11 in the bottom middle another human kills an orc with a sword strike near neck, absolute badasses
"I prefer our enemies armed with an axe, not a child." -Durotan of the Frostwolves
In World of Warcraft we saw the first depictions of Orcs not as mindless villains, but
as an honorable if barbarian people similar to the Vikings. Violent yes, but some of them
still capable of being good people and doing the right thing by the innocent. JT
The orcs are about 40 times stronger (estimating from the orc who tossed the horse earlier) than the humans, so it's the peak of insanity to fight them mano a mano. Arrows (with poison to boot), spears, trebuchets, longer bore gunpowder barrels and the like would be the stand-off weapons to use, not closing to fight face to face.
Yeah but when your army is built on heavy infantry, may as well go full tilt against a horde of evil space aliens in melee.
According to wow lore Warcraft humans descend from the vrykul which themselves descend from titans so humans in Warcraft are stronger than rl humans the thing that makes the orcs have an edge is the fel corruption
Humans descended from vrykul, but they aren't vrykul, humans are much smaller and weaker than their ancestors
@@DrinkingMud yes no denying that but still relatively stronger than normal humans that's why they can lift giant ass claymores and swords
@@abdennourlaib4519 Ok honestly I have always hated how oversized warcraft weapons and shoulder pads are, but honestly this makes me feel better about it lol.
I don't know why but I feel like I'm supporting the Orcs because they just wanted to survive
The reality is a little bit more complicated. The original Horde weren't there to survive, they were a warband directed to destroy Azeroth's defenses for the Burning Legion to arrive. Some clans were honorable, but the idea with the orcs was being an army for the Legion.
@@alejandroyavatbf some of the clans did see the invasion as necessary for their survival due to Draenor's desolation. But again, the orcs were just means to an end
3:02 this soldier just watching his comrade die
Medieval war tactics : *place light Infantry in the front, put heavy Infantry in the back for reserves and put archers in the front or back and put cavalry on the flanks*
Fiction medieval tactics : haha guys let's charge and we will win gg ez no re
Well, when all else is useless and fails, the run and slash brawl always works.
@@bossshun9 The most famous examples of that failing was when budica tried to wipe out that 200 strong Roman force. And lost her entire horde.
They should've made the movie with the length of lotr and the hobbit because I fear they had to rush a lot of good stories and moments and made the movie shorter than it should've been... making it longer would definitely make it better
Don't you dare to compare this shit to the lord of the rings or the hobbit
@@r-boy9677 warcraft have high potential bro.
Roué Gorissen where does he compare it with the hobbit or lord of the rings he only says the warcraft movies need to have the same movie lenght as those movies
@@r-boy9677 yeah like seriously...wtf is he doing...this is easily ten times better than lord of the rings or the hobbit.
@@r-boy9677 yeah and belive me this shit could be better than both of those movie
Kid: "Mom, can we have LOTR?"
Mom: "We have LOTR at home."
LOTR at home:
@Orc Peon bro why are you so offended
@Orc Peon you seem very upset at something that literally doesnt matter at all
@Orc Peon He wasn't acting like it's bad, compared to LotR it is though
I never played WoW, not a fan of the lore or anything. But I really enjoyed this movie.
Warcraft: *That’s a huge orc army!*
Lord Of The Rings: *Hold my beer*
Thx for all the likes
Warhammer 40K: *laughs hysterically*
Lol
battle of winterfell:
BearZ Orc Warcraft > Orc LotR
@@lorekeepers2077 yeah right... CGI sht
The army of hulks
Yeah
The hulk is just angry shrek
vs an army of captain americas
they're supposed to be hulking brutes, they're the smallest of grond's children (grond was a huge elemental rock giant created by aggramar the titan to bring order to a primeval draenor which was threatened to be consumed by intelligent plants, long story short from grond descended the magnarons, from magnarons sprang to life the gronn and the ogronn and from these 2 the ogres came to be and last were the orcs)
Nope
This movie had so much potential.
Lol
_This_ simply summarize this whole movie.
They rushed it, the sorcerer witch on their side became corrupted, he was a strong character but just killed him off just like that 😂
We need Warcraft total war :v
Darkrider Dark interesting idea but don’t think it would have a massive fan base since there very different types of games
You do realize that WoW was originally supposed to be a Warhammer game and warcraft is pretty much a direct rip off of Warhammer universe right?
Haakonson maybe at first but hasn’t it developed into its own thing now?
Haakonson WoW was supposed to be a Warcraft MMO, the first RTS Warcraft was supposed to be a Warhammer game though.
Play Total war: Warhammer. It is almost the same
The cinematography and production is so dope!! Blizzard didnt fail us to entertain. I hope there will be a part 2 and 3. Pls pls pls :(
Nah. The mobie only survived because of chinese market. Without it, this movie was actually a flop throughout the rest of the world.
this movie
was absolutely the worse depiction of a game.
@@ther0ckstar70
I wouldn't say it was quite that bad. People universally agreed that all video game movies were bad up until Detective Pikachu came out and was followed by Sonic the Hedgehog.
This one wasn't great, but it had cool things about it and it certainly wasn't anywhere near as bad as some of the past pieces of garbage based on video games that came out in the past.
For example, I tried out the Silent Hill movie with low expectations since I was aware of what I just stated, figuring that it could still be reasonably entertaining if I set my sights low. I couldn't even finish it. It just became too boring.
We need a Warcraft 2 movie with Undead in it.
Since this movie featured the first encounter with the Orcs and we have yet to see Paladins, if there was a 2nd movie Idk if they would show us the undead right away ;=;
@@tktvr9703 Appart from the mindless skeletons raised by the death knights there was no undead in Warcraft 2.
We need Arthas story, way better I'll be honest
In the Kingdom meeting scene, the guy representing Lordaeron looked undead
Glorious awesomnes. No long range ranged weaponry, no siege machines, no necromancy and undead, no deamons, no fancy magic, no air forces, no heavy artillery and walls. Just face to face battle
i hope theres Warcraft 2
unlikely. It was saved because of hype
me too bro I liked this movie alot
Me too 😪
I hope there is gonna be Warcraft Wrath of Lich King
I don't want any more after this garbage
Just think how good this movie could have been if the people making it had read the books or played the game or knew the characters or learned the lore or cared at all.
I liked this move a lot. I've seen it 3 times.
While I still wanted more, this movie was still good as it was decent, I think. It definitely hit my marks with these battles. Still tho, I hope more movies about Warcraft happen. This one felt too short while the lore within is way too expansive, one movie would never been enough to fully explain everything that happens in actual lore
It was an awesome movie. Sorry to hear they are not going to continue...
WAAAAAAAAGH! Oh oops, wrong franchise.
Follow me ladz for da bozz for gork and mork WAAAAAAGHHH!!!!!
Total war has joined the game
@J.o.e Official bruh are you 7 or something? “Frachuse”
@J.o.e Official nothin wrong with liking both
One of the most under rated movie in the whole movie history!
Such an amazing movie! feels like you are in the game!
Man those Orks are lucky they were not up against the might of Stromgarde
U know what i find stupid. If the alliance anticipatd a portal for the civilians to escape to stormwind, then uh why couldnt the alliance station reserve troops at the end of the portal so to reinforce the ones fighting the orcs. ?????
Who knows. They probably thought they needed their entire army to help them escape in the first place.
On point! 👍
+Samuraiedge2 Yeah hmm but I'm pretty sure that the combined armies of the Alliance wouldnt amount to the few that attacked the Orcish emcampment.
Remember, this movie is before the Alliance was formed. Before then its just humans.
Fair point. Man i was really expecting the Stormwind forces to be far numerous, it is there territory to begin with. Plus there was a scene in the movie where the generals of the Alliance (Human forces) referred to their "Legions" being stationed at various locations
Finally, a fantasy production involving LATE medieval plate armor accompanied by period-appropriate firearms. Both LOTR and GOT universes should have at least had cannon and arquebuses.
Blizzard should've start their storyline to Arthas, he is the most recognizable, renowned and best hero in warcraft lore. Blizzard, i tell u, the cinematic in Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne is STILL the best of all cinematic you have made in Warcraft. Not because of quality, bad graphics compared you have made today but it IS Arthas , man!! We WANT it!
Yes, from the beginning but no one cares. Most of the gamers dont know about the lore. It is more about the story and downfall of Arthas. It is the HIGHLIGHT of all warcraft franchise
they did NOT follow the lore in the closest with this movie...so might as well just start @ Arthas. Only thing this movie has right about the original lore are the names of the characters and locations.
I agree, this movie sucked. They should have used less CGI and used real costumes like LOTR did, so much more realistic looking. And yes, they should have started with the Arthas storyline. No one gives a shit about WC 1-2. WC3 is the most interesting.
tbh the 1st movie should have started with the warcraft 3 storyline
Arwho ?
They started with the beginning and not by the middle of the story and it's good. It's not because a bunch of young " " "gamer" " " don't care about why and how Warcraft became a huge franchise that they should destroy the lore by starting in the middle and do prequels as fan service.
It's like LOTR beginning with the last fight.
I'm so happy they made this movie, it was really good
at 3:13 the guy that says "form a line, shields.." I swear his voice is used in a lot of battle scenes, as i swear i recognise it...
Insanely badass voice
Me and my brother used to play Warcraft 1 & 2 when we were in junior high and then we watched this movie at the cinema as adults. Even though the movie bombed and we'll never get a sequel it was still a memorable experience
This must have been back in the say when the game was good and there was world PVP
Battlegrounds and flying ruined Warcraft
this was back when Wow didnt exist
The Empire look down upon these Strategy of facing the Savage Ork Camp
Yes
Can’t wait to see a wow movie showing a hunter class with their beast in a fight.
There technically was in this movie, the Orc and his Worg mount/pet that stoodoff against Lothar in the woods.
0:36 orcs getting out of the huts charging againts the enemy
0:51 orcs, yet again getting out of their huts charging againts the enemy
Whoever who was in Charge of contuinity in this movie: hahaha orcs go brrr
Orcs are physically big and the director never shy away from using that size over small humans...man they are like tanks...i think that approach makes humans effort great ❤
Imagine If that was all the soldiers including the ones inside the castle, just imagine if they all died because the portal closed. The castle would be left defenseless.
Mind you, per lore, these orcs were strengthened by demon blood and were vastly more powerful than regular orcs.
Yet, they would still get their asses handed to them by Durotan 😂 but TBF Durotan himself was large for an orc as well as his son and he managed to beat Doomhammer in several challenges
Mostly gatekeepers disliked this movie. It was entertaining regardless.
I dont know why people hate this movie so much. It was very entertaining
Now we need Warcraft: Scourge of Lordaeron then Warcraft: Rise of the Lich King.
That human leader just saying "whosyourdaddy" and then to be easy to win
This film was suprisingly enjoyable if you ask me.
Yeah, it suffered from wanting too much action, or from having too short a runtime depending on how you see it. Not sure why they couldn't just extend it by an hour or so to flesh out the characters and world a bit. It'd have made it far better. Still good though.
Imagine charging into battle with your sword, and right as you’re about to clash with the enemy, he murks you with his gat. 😭😂
I love the outfits, its full armor, and big giant orcs. 🔥🔥
This needed a sequel
0:16 kinda funny that the soundtrack composer is playing a massive blues line lol
What does that mean?
I did enjoy this movie.... I have no idea why there was no part 2
Humans had no strategy
There's are charge fast, rescue people, sabotage portal.
I liked this part because I really love it when a king fights alongside with his soldiers. It just looks pathetic in my eyes when a king says big words in the back while soldiers do all the work 😑
I think a story about Arthas would be both better for Warcraft lovers and for people who don't know about Warcraft lore.
I can even imagine the scenes, the first one would obviously be when Arthas rode with invincible in the snow and the horse damaged its leg and he had to put it down. Would be an epic introduction to the movie. And I would reckon it'd be a trilogy. First the rise&fall of Arthas, Second the war against the elves and just after he's been corrupted and the final being the WOTLK
expansion but more so the end of it and the invasion of Icecrown.
Still would be hard to translate into film. But this Warcraft movie was hard for me to follow even knowing about the Lore, I wonder what people who didn't know the lore thought about it.
that idea for the beginning shot would actually be perfect. but they should make it in 2 parts atleast, for the rise and fall of lich king. or a trilogy for the rise, reign and fall of the lich king.
It’s very hard to shine for a movie like this when you know the Lord of the Rings
Ahh, back when everyone used to play warrior.
the movie that could've been an amazing trilogy.
Me watching this after seeing Battle for Azeroth: "Where is the TACTICS"!!
3:07 Aw... the way she stands there holding the sword like a child is adorably stupid.
That always bothered me. It would probably look less ridiculous if the sword were smaller.
Maybe.
true
I kinda rationalize it as orcs not being confident with swords, and she was also weaker as a half-orc so maybe they didn't give her any time with weapons
@@Haduuna_Wrur She would be weak for an orc, but not for a human. Basically, if an orc's strength is a 10 and a human is a 5, Garona would be a 7.
But her being inexperience with swords is a decent explanation too.
@@wasdas1516 No one ever said this movie was perfect.
The alliance armour was beautiful
This is the closest thing that we would get to a Warhammer Fantasy movie.
Should’ve held their ground and let loose some volleys with those guns, then advanced in formation with shields locked. Discipline trumps brute force any day of the week, especially in a narrow valley like they were in.
Even if they did that they would still have been overwhelmed since the Orcs outnumber them AND are physically far stronger than them. If they didn't rush then Gul'dan would have enough time to summon even more reinforcements. Either way the humans still lose.
The tactical advantage of it can still work, but you still would have to find a way to hold back an endless horde of orcs.
The idea was to disrupt the orcs in making a solid frontal line, they are physically stronger and had more reach than humans, so making a shield wall formation for the human is a bad idea that would just get them pinched and picked off on both sides
I would Have used, let’s say a “Tercio” system, combining long pikes with firearms
Blizzardous!
Blizzard keep making movies like this please!
I would stay as close as I can to the best human that was the best shot and quick at reloading lol
The fact this movie wasn't fully animated is a sin.
Apparently The Humans had never Heard of Bows.
Or battle formations or artillery.
Gate is opening they are out of time. Guns better than bows. Zerg rush!!!
@@ericktamayo2570 Not in this case. Arrows have many more advantages especially considering these guns were single shots
@@duckvon4402 with that kind of body I do not think 1 arrow can stop them unlike a boomstick they just drop dead.
@@ericktamayo2570 Not in this case. The humans could've made a phalanx and had archers behind, which would've been much more effective as hundreds of arrows could be release every few seconds over a small area. Single shot weapons were obviously not as effective as the traditionally bow strategy, especially since bows can be reloaded in a matter of seconds. In war, time is money.
Garona gamora garona gamora garona gamora
wait... what did i just say??
The first meeting of orcs/soldiers shows the orcs rampaging through human lines. But when a thin line guards the portal all of a sudden the orcs can't get through.
Yeah, I noticed it too. And, I figured since these orcs are large, they can just crush the wall of knights to get through.
This movie needs more love.
I think it would be tactically and logically better decision to ask elves, dwarves and other nations for help. Also it could be better if they used the portal to send more soldiers.
But didn't like they had a argument which left the humans to save there people themselves?
@@cheems1538 maybe, i don't remember, i watched it only twice and i was interested in battles.
In the end but the sequel never came
The sight of Alliance Foot Soldier's shooting large flintlocks was very satisfying to me, while I would've preferred to see the Dwarves with guns, this was an ok decision.
If this were like Total war, I'd assemble the riflemen into a firing line after the initial clash while the infantry forms a shield wall and slowly advances on the enemy.
Fire from the flanks ?
@@bryanhalligan7641 that aligned with a well placed cavalry charge.
@@ImperialKnight770 a true total war veteran
If this were like Total War, The A.I would be beyond stupid
Shield wall and slow advance won't work if your enemy are 7-8ft big bass bulky orcs, the idea was not to let them form up and pinched them. 1 full swing of an orc could literally throw out 5 men. What they did here is to pierced immediately into the center divide the full strength by making the orcs fight one by one on different direction get the objective, exit. they weren't planning to win. In the lore humanity had to use more dwarven tech more magic to beat the orc horde .