Elon's bombshell lawsuit against OpenAI
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
- Elon Musk recently sued OpenAI stating that it betrayed its original mission to provide artificial intelligence for the benefit of humanity. Let's break down the details of the lawsuit and find out what it means for the future of technology.
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I didn't realize you could just turn a non-profit into a for-profit with so little consequence.
u can't, a non-profit doesn't have shares or owned by anyone, it said to be owned by boards members but owning in this respect is more about managing, those board members can't make money from being a board member or do stuff that conflict with their interest.
a non-profit can sell assets to a for-profit but not the operation.
open AI isn't really selling asset it being shadow controlled by one company that what open AI selling to microsoft which is illegal.
shit like that is hard to prove in court but should be very clear to anyone that its illegal regardless if they gonna be caught or not
*trump avoided paying tax, he said he is smart. there're loopholes can that be leveraged by some*
@@mdm032lol cmon
You can't, and they didn't.
The company is still a non-profit.
@@mdm032 or have this thing called knowledge lol
Google : Don't be evil
OpenAI : We are non-profit organization
Facts
"Don't be evil" is Google's former motto, and a phrase used in Google's corporate code of conduct.
"former motto" xD
"We are above good and evil"
Earlier I thought Google had acquired them?
Literally founded on lies lmao
2:33 this is some comic book villain type speech there wtf
Mwuahaha, fools investing into NVDA as an AI bet don't even know that it's MSFT that they should be investing into! Now their portfolios are being put on a conveyor belt towards a guillotine, where they will meet their untimely loss of value, while I reap the rewards! Mwuahahaha!
Literally, I'm in doubt that was actually said lmao
@@andrewtran9870he did not said it quiet literally. But most of it is real. This is his actual quote.
"As a partner, I think we deserve to be consulted on big decisions, It is not a hands-off. We are in there. We are below them, above them, and around them. It is a joint project."
Look up the interview of him by Kara Swisher. He said it during the whole Altman firing debacle. Pretty much admitting that Microsoft have serious influence on OpenAI.
@@andrewtran9870 Well, it's part of the lawsuit now
It looks like the quote came from Nadella's interview for the November 20, 2023 episode of the _On With Kara Swisher_ podcast. Crazy.
That Nadella quote is straight up insane
*Nutella quote
That's because Open AI is not using any kind of revolutionary technology. All its advances are from Google's open source research such as Tensorflow and NLTK.
What IS different though is the scale and investment poured into training GPT and the amount of time spent into refining the responses.
So when Microsoft's CEO says that they have the employees, the tech, the IP, he means that Microsoft has just as much capability as OpenAi and can ditch OpenAi if ever they decide to betray Microsoft.
What Microsoft Doesn't have is the vast infrastructure to host the OpenAi servers who continue to operate at a loss, or the 5 trillion token dataset that was painstakingly compiled by real humans.
"We're above them, below them & around them"
That's some metal shit
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish used to be the unofficial motto of M$.
Saudi Nutella 😂😂😂
Bro lost his streak on not talking about AI in a video 😢
After 1 attempt 😂
Bro needs to go on AI retention no cap frfr
@@TayambaMwanzait's a record for Fireship
How do you not talk about AI when you're a tech youtuber? It is quite literally the most world-changing technology, equivalent to the industrial revolution. It no doubt has and will continue to change how developers develop.
@@Patritybro doesn't understand a joke comment
All the issues and discussion about AI as a whole aside, this honestly has been my biggest issue with OpenAI: that despite keeping the name, the company and software doesn’t seem to be “Open-Source” anymore. Although according to this video it seems to be a bit more complicated and nuanced then just “AI company go from Open-Source/Non-Profit to Closed-Source/For-Profit”, that doesn’t mean it still is annoying or at least confusing when your company name AND product name literally implies that Open-Source is your main goal! At least change the name. But since this is AI we’re talking about, the name is pretty small potatoes compared to everything else that needs addressing!
Openwashing...
It's not any more nuanced, anything big they do is hidden behind their walls, anything not is still censored in favor of their political leaning to the extreme.
@@amentco8445 You need to spend more time reading things online. There's no censoring, it just uses English the way people do from all over the world - and anywhere on the face of the planet, outside the states, the things yall consider to be 'alternate opinions' are known to be crazy falsehoods or misrepresentations.
Open =/= Open Source. Open as in "Open for everyone to use... if they pay".
@@BruceNJeffAreMyFliesif you think ChatGPT talks like a normal person then you hang around with some strange as fuck people
This guy is basically my tech news source at this point and I’m not complaining at all
I subscribed literally at the end of the code reporting era before he switched completely to tech news.
Good look staying sane :D this is all hype nothing else, this whole tech community lost their minds
same!!!
@@conrad42 can you recommend a different source for information?
@@kissenklauer7011 used to watch two minute papers or mosfet/node, but I stopped watching any tech news as it gets too much. Especially with fireship and web development (also my job). At some point I felt lost to make any useful architecture decisions...
(I guess its ironic that i then comment under this video :D)
Saudi Nutella was some damn good word play
I didnt understand it
@@m7mdmorsi721Satya Nadella => Saudi Nutella
It was pretty funny
@@constantinegeist1854 arrow functions?
As a saudi i was hella confused 😂😂😂
One day since Jeff talks about Ai
I am AI
I want him to talk about AI everyday!
There's enough of that around us with companies putting the word everywhere so I'd like some vegetables from time to time please.@@Way_Of_The_Light
Cause he (it) is ai
Zero?
00:03 Skimming that dictionary with that finger in that context was prime editing
It's the stock footage I don't notice that's always best. It feels like giving a lollipop to the intrusive questioning child in my brain.
I didn't even notice wow
Doesn't look like editing. It's probably how the stock footage was originally.
Generic stock footage from another country no doubt... some people use the middle finger for pointing because it is the longest finger on the hand.
Elon must know something.
That his business model is under threat by superior technology?
That he's in bed with Putin?
he knows yo mama lmfao I'm genuinely sorry
one dumbest people around. I doubt he knows much
he’s invested in a different ai
I don't think Microsoft would be adding ChatGTP to all their products if they didn't have control over it XD
With co-pilot
It's called a business deal.
@@scarlet_phonavis6734 orig edge was ie with some modifications to push it closer to the other browsers, obv. Not close enough so they just remade all of edge with chromium.
Huh? Software vendors don't use outsourced code with contractual guarantees?
When a ship is on fire, the first thing I think of is this channel! Keep up the good work!
Something that happens often to you?
So do I. My apartment was burning tonight and those silly firefighters tried dragging me away from the computer. But when I showed them what I'm watching they loosened their grip and we all finished the Code Report. We eventually got out all burned up and some fever but it was worth it.
i hate it when my ship burns down while i'm watching code report, smh
Those big bad ships in the red sea.
OpenAI is nothing without its -people- profits.
-openai- every company ever
Open ai involved in research to people disease.
You would not be talking about AI, LLMs, or OpenAI without Microsoft investment.
Elon finds out he got jewed
no, just 13 billion dollars of microsoft if left then 😢
Sets a good precedent for open going closed. We are looking at you Mistral
Dude how do you cook these vids so fast without compromising quality holy hell
AI? :D
He's got a pretty replicatable blueprint for his videos to merge facts and memes with a splash of opinion. I imagine its not that difficult for him tbh
@@livinagoodlife Obviously it must've become much easier with years of doing this, but the humor, script, and everything is still top-notch... The things that do actually take work (writing, choices of memes, etc.) never seem to go down in quality.
@@Gigusx He has a team
This was quality????
FINALLY! Every single person has seen this for years but nobody did anything. Well, now we can finally see just how honest and fair everything is when you're a company that produces modern warfare weapons for the USA 🥰 Especially if it's a company whose sole purpose was to conduct open AI research projects for the advancement of humanity. I'm absolutely certain they'll return to their original and prescribed mission now /s. Surely the USA just accidentally overlooked what was happening.
I remember reading that the non profit part is the database collection done offshore in non-profit ways for the countries hosting that databases. But the front end which uses the databases is for-profit. So it was a loophole to avoid copy right infringement and claim no wrong doing. It was a shady gray area.
@@tronophono913
I have seen that being called "data laundering"...
First this, now Mistral has removed references to open model access after an investment from Microsoft. Microsoft appears to be single handedly killing open AI models
how was this not talked about
Mistral is funded from MS too ?
Embrace. Extent. Extinguish.
Typical Microsoft strategy, they still hate open source, despite claims to the contrary.
Just yesterday I was wondering when Mistral is going to get sued or purchased by M$hit
wtf... someone stop them???
So glad to see your hard work paying out. Been around for some years with your content.
I wanted to comment that the opening lines were fire, but he just kept going. I played in repeat just to enjoy the hot delivery. Well done sir?
Such good editing and content! ❤😂
Days AI not mentioned: 0
Broo Saudi Nutella 🤣🤣🤣 OMG I can’t 2:29
Kekw
Saudi Nutella? Never thought about it, but it makes perfect sense
how exactly?
When I heard about OpenAI for the first time I joined their discord, looking for the repo, thinking that the OpenAI is open source, and I just could not find it.
Bro you had me at "Saudi Nutella" 😂😂
The owner of this channel, your voice reminds me of my 2007 forums friends. Miss those times. Love you bro!
yh this video is very 2007-esque
Stellar editing as always
another key issue if I get this right is that MS doesn't have the license for AGI so the incentives are there to influence OpenAI to never claim any product as such
What? A license for AGI? Never heard of anything like that, and doesn't sound very plausible to me. Where did you get this idea from?
@@technolus5742 read up on the lawsuit and the deal between OpenAI and MS
Microsoft's partnership with OpenAI gives Microsoft exclusive rights to all models created by OpenAI but limited to non-AGI. If OpenAI achieve AGI, Microsoft's partnership clause does not give them rights over it.
@@technolus5742 -- It's a copyright thing, not a general permit kind of thing. Think "creative commons license", not "driver's license".
@@mvmlego1212 That makes perfect sense, thanks
There is also the argument that OpenAI will not be able to make those technologies without all the money for compute which I don't know if is true.
Research makes no money yet does so much for the world. It's the curse in health care and als in Artificial Intelligence.
They could very easily organize a committee of major tech companies that stand to gain from progress in AI, where no one has overwhelming power and everyone is interested in funding the coordinated research effort that now would no longer have to skip alignment to beat others to market.
The tricky - but not unusual - part of this would be ensuring that the coordinated effort is more appealing than individual ventures.
@@tacticalassaultanteater9678no, why must big corps want to fund something they don’t control. It’s a hard sell. If openai asking users (who literally benefits from their product) to pay is to too close, why would big corp even do that?
Yeah, computational of AI require so much resource, i agree with you
It likely is, AI guzzles electricity like nothing else. Running and training the latest models requires a shit ton of money. Without Microsoft, they wouldn't have come so far. But the price of this progress means that Microsoft will control AGI and we get comic-book-villain-esque speeches from Nadella
That intro was straight up fire man
That Bon Jovi line hit hard.
Adam D'Angelo is the founder of Quora, not some random guy from Facebook.
Quora isn't a bragging right lol, I would hide that shit on my resume.
There's a lot of facts this video misses the mark on in it's 3 minutes. I was hoping for some actual information.
@@SixOThreelike?
@@SixOThreeyou're not making any sense. You just said he had 3 minutes. You're contradicting yourself.
Lawyers love this - lawsuit will go nowhere.
I love ❤these takes! Hilarious 😂 but spot on!
high quality amazing and informing i want more content like this!
Calling GPT the mythical AGI is really hard to sell. Yes, it is versatile and somewhat flexible, but that's about it. No matter how you look at it, it's just autocomplete. In a sense, the image AI we've seen is far more "imaginative" and GI than GPT. It is just a really bad swiss army knife that sometimes has an actual knife that some times works but always has a dull blade.
Came to the comments section to write pretty much this ^
GPT is very impressive, but calling it AGI is silly
There is no agreed upon definition of AGI...yet. Perhaps this lawsuit will get us a legal definition.
I don't think it's that hard of a sell. After all, as opposed to like all the AI systems before it, it can do a bajillion different things, without having been optimized for the specific purpose of any one of them specifically.
In that sense, just about every skill it has is due to its generalness, not how its been handcrafted for some specific purpose.
In that sense, it's a general purpose tool - or intelligence if you will and it's definitely artificial.
If nothing else, this lawsuit might force for there to become a universally recognized definition for AGI.
Sora is also just autocomplete, just for space-time-color tokens instead. It just predicts the state in about 30 ms for a position in a scene. I don't really know how you'd find it more general. It doesn't seem to be capable of doing anywhere near as many different useful things as GPT-4.
One might argue that animals are complex auto-complete machines with goals to survive and reproduce.
You can also extend this to human beings if stretching the definition of 'auto complete'
Having general intelligence doesn't necessarily mean you have an agenda or free will.
@@Alice_FumoJust throwing in my opinion on what could be considered "general": if I can tell a system the rules of a game/sport/problem space (in English), and it can reliably play/comment on/solve problems without other previous training data on the subject, that's truly general (possibly after asking questions, since there could be holes in my explanation). I remember seeing GPT (can't remember the version) try to play Chess, and it constantly tried to play illegal moves, despite having seen many games in its training data. I think the "it's just auto complete" statement captures this well, there's a difference between giving the statistically most likely next token in a sequence, and actually understanding what you're doing.
Here's me waiting for someone at OpenAI to release all the IP and all models in a torrent somewhere on 4chan which would make the company next to worthless instantly
Probably no one except the elite at OpenAI has access to the complete database.
that's... not how it works at all
You would still need tons of computing power to run all of this. VRAM requirements would be insane for stuff like GPT-4 and beyond.
Just get the code and data. Community will work on the issue of usage after that
As long as they can sue your ass out of existence, their IP is safe. And Microsoft can sure as hell sue your ass out of existence if they so desire (even if you did not in fact steal anything from them, but it happened the other way around).
Your content is straight fuego bruhv 🔥
That DD ref was wild 😂
The ultimate question is:
Does Elon use the word "donate" and "pledge" interchangeably?
Dude donated 42 billion for the cause just to make Tesla cover it with interest within one year.
Bro is yapping like he doesnt own Grok , which is also not open
A small correction on the "refused stake" part. It is true that he "donated" a lot of money and had committed to donating more - on the condition that *he* becomes CEO. The board refused, so he withdrew his funds.
There ain't no one working for the sake of humanity there, just different greedy bastards looking after their interests.
EDIT:
In addition, Microsoft has a lot of influence since they've also donated a metric crap ton of resources in the form of their cloud infrastructure. The part about Microsoft being all around OpenAI might be in reference to them expressing a lot of interest in acquiring the company in the past along with the current talent that works there. After Altman got yeeted off the board for a lil bit Microsoft *did* want all of the employees part of his faction to jump ship.
Sounds like something Elon would do lol
I don't think he "withdrew" his funds. Else he would have no grounds to sue
@@themartdog He went back on his *promise* to "donate" further 950mil.
Doesn't Elon also have a closed source competitor product?
@@neociber24 Yes. A for-profit, closed-source competitor. Seems like he's trying to reenact the Dodge v Ford all over again.
Elon has a valid point, Microsoft wants full control of all open and closed sources AI.
They invested in
1.OpenAI.
2.Mixtral.
3.HugginFace.
4.Phi-2 (Their own model).
5.LLamA (Meta model).
Elon is just triggered because he’s not part of it 😂😂😂😂
He just wants his billions
Everything in what Microsoft invests either disappears or turns to shit
@@RunForPeace-hk1cuI mean he's right but so are you. Remember when Elon talked about how AI should be slowed down because it was developing too fast, and painted a Skynet kind of picture to us, only for him to do a 180 and try to develop his?
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu Not really. There's nuance to everything, which is lost on people like you.
No offense but you're just wrong on the facts here. Google, not Microsoft, is the one with a partnership with Hugging Face.
Larry Summars from the 2008 Wall St Bailout
GPT4 is not AGI...
GPT isnt (yet)
But Q* might be
As true as the claim may be, the only reason he's suing is cause he's jealous 😂
Lol the Nutella thing got me. That was good.
I love videos I can play at normal speed instead of 2x. Thank you for editing things to my level.
Gotta be on Elon's side for this one
when you know Elon has its own AI company and it's far behind OAI, you understand why he's doing this
Yeah well he was founder of OPEN AI@@nicejungle
@@haoxus9413
Musk has recently founded xAI
They are far behind openAI, that's why Musk try to slow their progress to keep up
@@nicejungle -- Regardless of his intentions, he's right that Microsoft needs to be knocked down a peg. Their approach to developing and marketing generative AI has been the greediest, most irresponsible thing that I've ever seen a corporation do.
@@mvmlego1212
I no longer care about FAANG. They can do whatever they want.
I only use open source, and open models like SDXL and Mistral. This is the Way
Now we need to sue Elon himself
Satya Nutella is definitely my Halloween costume this year.
The writing is awesome. How many writers do u have sir?
Petition for Fireship to start a hip-hop channel?
Elon musk isn’t doing this because he cares of the public. He wants his AI Grok to be top
OMG! Finally, here's a comment saying what I have been saying all along. Elon is just jealous, and it's as simple as that. All these people in the comments talking rubbish about OpenAI are just jumping on the Hate OpenAI bandwagon. They should be appreciate what OpenAI has done for the world; instead they are hating. Too many toxic people online these days. Thanks for your awesome comment, brother!🙏
Great informative laugh once again! Thanks mate.
hi, there!
you use AI or real person for Voice Over?
AGI is coming 2025!!
As a generative language model, I am unable to determine whether Elon Musk is turbo based
The choice of footage for "that won't work" made me die laughing
Your humor always get me laughing lol Very informative and entertaining *salute
What an absolutely frivolous law suit. He sold all his ownership and left years ago. He is just trying to punish those that are more successful than him!
neocon
Exactly. I can't believe so many people are falling for this rubbish.🤣
You know the world is screwed up when I'm actually siding with Musk for a change. :/
Me too
the fact that you got the Windows 95 keynote scene in 2:45 from German TV broadcaster ZDF😂
It really pissed me off when they went closed after promoting being open. It's a travesty to all the poor countries out there who are trying to educate themselves and now they hid chatgpt behind a paywall. They can no longer afford a tool that can help them tremendously, which is what Microsoft did when they bought the company, a massive move of greed.
This is the entire premise of venture capitalism LOL. Everyone saw the writing on the wall: that OpenAI will hike prices and everyone who based their business model around them would have to pay. But nooooo, hype must flow!
@@CodecrafterArtemisOpenAI was not the one who did it, it was Microsoft who bought it and put in the subscription BS. I think if OpenAI had still been by itself and not under Microsoft they would have followed the original plan which was to not have the model.
GPT3.5 is still very free, as is Bing Copilot with GPT4. I use both a lot.
@@lmnts556 Why would things be different for any other VC company? If they were bought by Amazon or Meta, do you think they wouldn't have raised the prices?
I don't know about that... OpenAI did pull a number on everyone, but I doubt it's stopped anyone who actually needs them from using their models (talking about the costs here). Their API costs pennies and that's without any fine-tuning or optimizing. Even 3rd world countries will be able to afford them for any critical infrastructures. There's of course the issue of certain countries being restricted, but you focused on the paywalls so I'm guessing you're not talking about that.
fireship is fast af boi
I don't think anyone noticed it, but I love the subtle Bon Jovi reference on his birthday!
The Goat at tech news in the most hilarious way!
im not opposed to this becoming a hiphop news channel
I don't think Elon will have much success with his lawsuit but this time I am actually happy that there is one
I wasn’t expecting to see P Diddy in clip 😂
Excellent video 👍 Thank you 💜
Did the robot at 2 minutes flip us off?
I'm just here for the show. Hope it gets crazy.
Adam D'Angelo is actually from Quora, although he was at Facebook at a time.
I think the biggest takeaway for all of this is we should get a strict precise definition of AGI. That will be productive.
*It has been* _-eight-__ zero_ *days since Fireship has talked about AI*
I'm also annoyed Microsoft might ruin Mistral. AI should be open. If regulations ever affect the space, I hope they force openness as opposed to centralized profit.
Know what, I'd be down if you covered the HipHop lawsuit
Call it the "Off-day report". Every dev has one, if only to look away from their own code for once XD
We all know if anyone is going to create Skynet that it would be Microsoft! 🤣
Yea microsoft is sus, real sus. Not like I think they're malicious, just that they'd be one of those path to hell with good intentions kind of companies.
They needa be knocked down like 10 notches. I'd rather see this in the hands of some mad scientist looking mf'er like Elon before I'd like to see it in the hands of Microsoft.
We are here and not going anywhere
you never disappoint❤ i came here right away when i read news about OpenAI Elon mess and found nothing but i think you were in the process of making the video😊...
Was not expecting to hear from the great Bon Jovi XD
1:40 that tweet was from 2019 and he replied now in answer to the lawsuit ig
Working with non tech nonprofits I'd say many organizations often work like for profit entities.
You should talk about the apple PWA situation and show how developers can help with the open web advocacy letter
0:44 quick not fast, Tesla heavy and drops off in the higher end of speed, 2nd quickest to 100kmh sure
It's not a dystopia if you're living in it.
Second fastest accelerating production car
You make such an entertaining content, incredibel
It's wild to me that no one is talking about the countless lawsuits pending against OpenAI for utilizing training data, claiming they were a "research company" as a defense, and then grossly profiting from it and not releasing the sourcecode or data. Like someone find these cases and talk to these artists and authors, please?
Elon is a big advocate of open source. Like how he portrays the Tesla patents open-source, in a way that makes it impossible for any self-respecting person to use it and placing it behind a legal paywall, that renders it unusable.
Honestly, I wish they could see more and all worked together for this one single time, at least.
It's ingenious to restructure a non-profit into a holdings company such that the other shareholders (Microsoft) gets all the profits..
This is really good. It is short, it is fast, it is to teh point. Thank you.
So what can we do. The first Linux was built by ONE person.
What if about 100 million people who are interested in the future of AI come together and create globally available AI platforms for learning about AI, working with AI and developing AI and making all of it open source?
Well, I guess I am much too late with this idea and many people are working on such platforms already.
Regardless of the outcome, the things that will come out of the trial will be interesting.
@fireship I wish the news in general were as clear and concise as your report ... fam
yeah this needs to be addressed otherwise what's to stop everyone from creating non profits then creating a for profit arm as form of tax evasion
Incredible writing!
Its was the ending for me😂
This man really does cool things. Thanks to him, I started making videos myself. I wish good luck to everyone who is learning. May everything work out for you 💪