I love my Vaquero! The clutch is fine, and the lever is span adjustable - I love the dash and the simplicity is a selling point for me. My electronics are on my phone and in my helmet. It’s not underpowered after a tune - faster than a 107 and beauty is in the eye of the beholder - it’s more of a stone axe than a cutting edge but gets the job done with heft and balance. The faux carbon isn’t stock.
People are delusional thinking Harleys that cost so much more are better than this motorcycle. An extra $10k can go a long way to making this bike way better than an entry level Harley that you get for the same dough.
Although you are certainly entitled to your opinion, I find it mind boggling that you continually compare a $20k Vaquero to a $30k Harley-Davidson. Styling differences aside, (which are totally subjective) it’s unrealistic to expect a machine that costs 66% of an H-D to have the same level fit and finish, etc.
I have been driving a 2009 vulcan 900 classic for 3 years. My first bike I have owned while I have had a license. I have been driving off and on for years without a license. I wanted a bit more power. So I checked out a HD. Omfg, first thing I thought was I need a new gym membership, so I can operate the clutch. The way it felt while riding, the rattling. I was fairly sure that I was leaving parts behind me. It reminded me of a video I saw about how the Honda CT 125 vibrates it accessories off. That's even if you use lock tight I'm finding with a HD, it's the name you are buying. Paying at least $8k - $10k for a name. An you can't forget how obnoxiously loud they are. I find it hilarious that a guy is sitting on his bike blasting music that you can only hear while stopped. HD is a cult
Fit and finish ?? My brother's bike have more dummy lights going off than a jeep. Not to mention he told me that the Milwaukee 8 moto had plastic pieces in motor. Push rod sleeves or something like that. Harley is trash. The only issue I have had from my Honda is trying to find after market handlebars. I change the oil and keep the battery up and I grab and go. No tinkering bs
I agree with you on some stuff. I also agree with the bags. I prefer the lids to open from the top. Also the carbon fiber isn't a factory feature on the bike it was added on. Yes MSRP is $20,000 but most dealers will sell them to you for around $17,500 brand new. You can also pick up a nice used one for under $12,000. You can't pick up a new HD Road Glide for under $28,000otd anymore. You don't like the dash but I personally love the old school dash, but I am also one of those who don't care for all the electronics that new bikes have. Fit and finish def could be better, but where that 1700cc bike is better than every other Vtwin is how bulletproof it is. The bike just keeps going with very little $$$$$ compared to other brands. I love my Harley but I am tired to paying out the ass to keep it on the road and my next bike will be a metric bike.
Yes, well known to go 100k or more with oil, air and spark plug changes. Youll run in to fork maintenaince closer to 100k. Very simple, cost effectibe bikes to maintain. They dont look or feel like a Harley at all and def not as powerful or as efficient
Yes, well lnown to go 100k miles with the utmost basic maintenaince schedules. It wont look or feel like a Harley tho. Definitely not as powerful or as efficient either. Own a 23 Voyager alomg with a 24 Heritage 114
My 1st bike was a Kawasaki 440 LTD and the thing was bullet proof. I rode that thing like I stolen it! My last bike was a 2005 Honda VTX 1800n and it too was bullet proof, it just ran. I have ridden many bikes over the years and have at least test ridden every Harley Davidson they have built. The only two I every liked was the softail deluxe and the crossbones but initial cost and constant and expensive maintenance is not for me. 'Rice Burners' just work and they work well. Well built, powerful and won't let you down on the road or in your bank account. In the end bikes are like art, to each his own but unlike art they are toys for big boys and I never look at them as investments!
@@richvangorder3900HARLEY EFFICIENT??? I just wrapped up a 4800 mi 14 day 14 state ride. My Harley buddy was googling Harley Dealers along our route daily. There’s a reason. I changed my oil and pushed the start button. Kawasaki is amazing, they know it but they don’t judge other manufacturers. Harley painted themselves into a corner and they are dieing on the vine.
You should see his two videos about all the problems with his new 2024 Road Glide. On his 2nd day of ownership he had to have the Road Glide towed to a dealer to get an "electronic" update. The more features your motorcycle has means more chances of a breakdown. My 97 Honda Shadow ACE VT1100 is as simple as you can get: two wheels, spark, air and fuel.
@@jaepatron6266 Bro, I have heard that from both the new Road and Street Glides. Not sure if it's new gen pains, but it's not reassuring to hear for the brand.
I have the Voyager. The only thing I would even remotely consider as an "issue" is the 70% throttle, which an Ivan flash takes care of. Everything else is preference. Clutch is adjustable. Plus, my warranty is until December 15th of 2029 (may as well say 2030) for 17K. Full fairing. All the sammich space. Likely won't need that warranty, but I did hear of a Voyager breaking down once. Guy ran out of gas. Crazy.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally love the Vaquero. Didn’t like the colour options (or lack thereof). If you want HD quality, buy a HD, but as to bang for the buck you won’t find a more reliable bike. Dare I say it, likely more reliable than HD. Is it perfect? No, but the things that you hate are things that I love. The simplicity and unencumbered nature of the machine is what I love about it. It does need pipes and an Ivan’s flash, but that’s more about throttle response than being underpowered. As to the saddlebags? Your assumptions about insecurity of contents is dead wrong. I use liners and I actually prefer the side opening bag. Thousands of miles (many with overstuffed bags) and never had a problem. I love HD, but for the money, you won’t buy a better bike than the Vaquero.
I agree with you, bang for the buck I love the Vaquero. I call it the poor mans Hardly Davidson. I really love the gauges and looks of the bike and have always really loved the sound of that bike with upgraded exhaust! Yes, it is not as refined, but I am not paying for the refinement with this. I love HD's, but I have always loved this bike too! I appreciate that is has hydraulic valve lash adjusters and is liquid cooled too. Not alot of aftermarket stuff for it, but there is stuff if you know where to look!
The cockpit is what I love about it. It's simple and old school looking. I don't care about the digital stuff though. Give me a Speedo, gas gauage, RPM Gauge, and I'm good. I'll never use the Radio with the headsets today. Plus the price is cheap with a liquid cooled engine. The one thing about Kawasaki and most japanese cruisers, is the trim doesn't have the fit and finish that you get from Harley. As far as power, get an Ivan's tune on it, and it will wake it up and make it a beast. One thing to consider, the bread and butter for the japanese companies, are their sport bike lines. So they use the Vulcan line and the others that require little R&D and use that profit to put towards the R&D of their other money makers. For guys lik me, simple is better. I love The Road King Special over the Road Glide and Street Glide. But the Vaquero, for the price, I get more for the money and a Very reliable engine. No, I'm not saying Harley engines are junk. Not saying that at all. I know personally, the kawasaki engines last a very long time.
I can see your points and they’re valid. Vaqueros are different colors every year. Overall I have found mine to be super reliable and despite the looseness of the end of the fairing and chin spoiler, they have not cracked or even loosened up over time. Performance is ok, Kawasaki has not refined or updated the bike since its inception. But if you are in the market for a comfortable, competent motorcycle it excels there. Not the fastest, doesn’t hug curves like a sport bike, just runs reliably and requires minimal maintenance.
I had a Nomad 1700 for years. Same engine and frame. Underpowered for sure (until i put the Ivan tune on it) but it was super reliable. I beat the living crap out of it and it never complained. the best thing you can say about these bikes is that they will never die.
I have a 2016 Kawasaki Vaquero that I bought brand new. A pair of Cobra slip-ons, and Ivan reprogram of the computer was all it needed. Basic maintenance stuff, oil changes etc. Zero issues with this bike. It runs strong, sounds good, and most people think it looks good. Traded in an ElectraGlide twin cam for it that was nothing but problems. Noisy valves, leaking and burning oil. The Kawasaki has been nothing but trouble free for 8 years. I like Harleys, but spinning the roulette wheel and hoping you get a good one is too big of a gamble for the price...
I just bought a Vaquero this winter, I'm waiting for our Canadian snow to leave so I can ride it. Everything mentioned in this video, I can live with. The biggest reasons I bought one was the price and reliability. First the price, I paid $22,000 tax in and extended warranty. While I was shopping for bikes of course I looked at Harley and Indian ... a used road glide was $39,000 USED. I know there are lots of Harley riders out there that apparently like to spend twice as much as they have too. Next is the reliability. Any Kawasaki dealer can work on this bike. I don't have to put it on a trailer and haul it 5 hours in any direction to get to a Harley or Indian dealer. I'm hoping that Kawasaki has kept up the same reliability on the Vaquero as they did with with old dirt bikes and 4 wheelers. Would I rather top loading saddlebags? Yes of course I would. Would I rather a smoother, easier clutch? Yes of course I would. But the fact of the matter is that this bike is half the price of a Harley or Indian, shops are available in most towns with more than 500 people. And you still get to ride a decent bike. That's my 2 cents. I like your video's, keep it up bud!
They've been using this big engine platform for decades and has been proven to be bullet proof with no lack of power like this bozo says in the video. You'll love it man, i have a 2018 and I've done small stuff to make it more comfortable and i wouldn't want any other bike. If you ever want more throttle response (this guys issue with "no power") then send your ECU off to get Ivanized and its a whole different bike. Also the clutch is fine and i have no clue what he's talking about with that but i guess everybody likes their clutches different
Id take this all with a grain of salt. i have had vulcan vaquero since 2018 and the Clutch is fine, ive been stuck in traffic and it's fine never had any issues. And power is never an issue, merge on freeway with me and wife (neither of us are small) with no issues. When i pass someone on the freeway you blink and you're doing 90mph and the rest is subjective. Pretty biased review from someone looking for stuff to hate.
I dig this dude and opinion is opinion but some of his latest vids are of his brand spanking new HD being broken down constantly from electrical gremlins, for literally twice the price. That says it all for me.
I own a 2009 Vulcan Voyager and I understand that it doesn’t stand up to the Harley Davison standards. I would never buy a new Vaquero or Voyager @ $20k, I would save up a little more and buy a Harley or Indian, but I bought mine used at a very good price and it has been a great bike for me. I have put 15k miles on it in the last 18 months I have owned it. It might not be a Harley, but it’s mine and I am thankful to have it.
I road the wheels off my '13 Voyager from 2017-2023. I would take that bike anywhere. We've got a 24 Pursuit now and love it... but the Voyager was a great bike. He makes some good points about aesthetics.
I personally know two late model Harley’s owned by friends who have broken down since January. Also the dealer charges my buddies an arm and a leg for everything. I want a vaquero because everyone rides Harleys and a cruiser would be best for my back. The new denim blue Vaq is bad ass! This guy is a hater.
Clutch, Fit and finish and lack of colour choices I agree with. Ivan’s tune, BAK and exhaust really wake the engine up. I love the looks personally and have since they came out. have a 2017 with those upgrades and I haven’t had any of the Harley or Indians I rid with get away from me lol.
I ride a Voyager 1700. For the money, it's the best bang for the buck. I cannot afford a $55,000 HD CVO. Perhaps you can but the Voyager gives me a full-on touring bike for under 20k.
I put 20K miles on my 2020 Vaquero. I got it new for $16000 all in, which is as cheap as you can get for a new bagger. Gotta expect some trade-offs at that price. Once you get the Ivan’s flash, the bike’s performance is pretty good and very reliable. Except for ABS in 2014, the bike has had no updates since it was introduced in 2011, so yeah it’s a little dated. I traded it in for a Challenger a couple of months ago, and the Challenger beats the Vaquero across the board, but the Vaquero is a pretty good bike for the money.
Appreciate you putting the time into this video, but this was not a stock bike and some of your dislikes are because of mods done before you took this for a ride. Things I noticed 1: hand grips not stock 2: carbon fiber wrap on boxes are not stock 3: air filter not stock 4: fit and finish with loose fairing parts (probably forgot to add screws after adding driving lights between top and botton fairing. I didn't see the exhaust but if they changed the air filter they probably changed the exhaust as well. I own a 2023 Vaquero and love it (sure the EPA throttling of the engine is BS) but that is the only thing I did to mine with the Ivans tune that not only evened out acceleration but improved mileage on longer rides. I would ask you ride a stock bike and make an honest opinion as whoever had this bike before you cut some corners on the mods.
The fairing looks like the ones Kawasaki had when the highway patrol used them on their bikes. Remember the tv show "CHiPs"? I agree about side-opening bags - especially on the left side when the bike is on the kickstand. Open the bag - pick up your stuff.
It's the best simple fixed fairing bagger you can buy. I would love a fixed fairing but dont really care for all the extra tech on the Indians and Harleys. A radio, linked brakes, abs and cruise control is all I'm really looking for. And grabbing one of these with low miles for under $14k is just too good to pass up.
Just picked up a new 2023 voyager 17.5k OTD. It's literally a Vaquero with the rear trunk. Already have a Goldwing and a sport bike for when i need some acceleration thrills. Anyway I love the Voyager, nice cruiser, very nimble and steady on the road. Love the rumble, yeah it has some plastic, but so what!! It's NOT underpowered. It redlines at 6k, it accelerates well especially when u shift near the redline. Anyway,, guys this like this make me want to buy metric bikes forever. He is not doing the Harley brand any favors by bashing non Harley bikes.
The vulcan line was dubbed the greatest cruisers of all time close to 30 years ago. Still are. Let's talk about performance and handling vs. the harleys.
I just hit 500 miles on a vaquero about an hour ago and comparatively to a Harley Price vs performance I'm pleased with the bike. Now I absolutely agree about many of the complaints. I have already added true duals to the bike and while it's not a harley sound, it does sound amazing. That said even before the exhaust I had a lot of throttle stutter and hesitation. The fact that a tune on a new bike is needed blows my mind. The saddle bags make me want to throw a puppy off of a high rise building. My biggest complaint and the one that actually pisses me off about the bike is the sound system, or lack of one that's capable of the same that the lowest level car being bought today can accomplish. Now with all my hate about the bike out I did purchase a 23 with 0 miles for damn near 16k so i consider that a good deal even with the faults.
OMG don't even rate a bike if you can't appreciate the quality of the bike and an information point that bad clutch you say I've got 115.000 miles and that's the original clutch. Im presuming that be 3 or 4 Harley clutch changes. And at 65 with carpel tunnel AH NO ISSUES lol
Vaquero Rider here, the clutch feels just fine to me. And given the fact that an equally equipped road glide, costs about 10k more. I'll ride the shit out of my Kawasaki vs an equally equipped road glide all day long. Plus Harley is air cooled vs Kawasak liquid cooled. The fit and finish on my bike is just fine. All I keep hearing is a bias opinion of Harley Davidson. Not capping on Harley Davidson, but my opinion is that I want something that nobody else has. Only thing I personally agree with is that the color option is leaving a lot to be desired.
Just a few years ago these bikes were selling for as little as $13,000 after incentives and dealer discounts. Now they are asking nearly $20,000 without any significant changes to the design or upgrades. Yeah, not even any color options. If you could get one for about $15,000 out the door then ..... maybe.
I owned a 2012 Vaquero for about 8 years. The plastic and lack of accessories are what made it a giant disappointment. Power was good and did a ton of miles with my boy. I now own a road king. Big difference. I'll keep the road king hands down. Thanks for the video.
I definitely enjoy my 2012 Kawasaki voyager. Which basically is a Vaquero just with the trunk and top opening lids for the side bags. But it definitely could use some updating. But without the updating, that's one of the ways that they can keep the price down. It's more for those who don't want all of The Flash and new technology. And the other downfall is that they really do not have a lot of aftermarket parts directly for them. You have to actually do measurements and order the parts and hope for the best.
I have a 2010 Voyager which pretty much the full dressr version on the Vaquero. I like the bike. Granted yes does it need some more tech options, indeed. But hands down for the price you pay it is a very reliable bike. Thanx for the video
The Vaquero / Voyager are about the same since introduced 15 years ago. In 2010 I chose the Voyager over the Road Glide. It was a better bike and better value. I put 60,000 miles on it. In 2016 with the Rushmore Project The Road Glide was a better bike so I traded for a '16 Road Glide Ultra.
I have no clue what youre talking about with the clutch, you must have got a shit one cause mine is instant, the bag also have liners to hold things in them and organizers. And for the power, they have more then enough power than what youre letting on just by reading spec sheets. If you still have a issue with the power then get the IVAN flaah and its a night and day difference. The amount of Harley copium is wild. Youre comparing a 30-40k bike to a 18k one and have your expectations way too high for a perfectly capable cruiser and a more reliable one at that
owned 6 road kings, 1 ultra classic, 1 softail and 1 street glide, from evo to 88,96, 103, 107, 114, bought the 23 vaquero, for 15 k and love it, ivan reflash a must, windshield is a joke, far from perfect but the most comfortable and nice low center of gravity, 67 yrs old ,53yrs of riding, its a good bike, harleys hold value much better , better sou n d system's, but last time i looked , a street glide will run about 30 k, mid 40's for a cvo, i think that is just foolish to spend that kind of money, just my opinion tho
Love my Voyager... added what i wanted... has possibly more options than the new HD... heated seat.. grips... True navigation with a non pay rain radar... once the ecu gets flashed- it's a different bike. 70k miles... no dealer maintenance money spent. Also.. i have a keyless ignition
Good day, I bought a 2020 new paid $18,300.00 canadian. I think the comparable harley is $5,000.00 plus more. Some of you comments I agree with. The colour is change every year but yes only one color per year. They started these bikes in 2011 and the dash is exactly the same to date. I contacted Kawasaki when I bought it and complained. The enginge is chocked up from the factory due to emissions however Ivan Tune takes care of that and its not expensive. The failing I love however live the Harley bat wing but not that one one yours. I think it looks terrible. Ti be honest every bike has there little things. To make a fair comparison to a harley bike put one beshide it tgatscomparable then compare, price on down. And as far as I know alot of the harley bike is now made outside of America if I'm not mistaken.
I have worked at a shop that sold metrics. To be blunt there are a lot of cost saving measures done. If you want a cheaper cruiser than a HD or Indian go with a Honda. The old VTX series are still well built and a good value.
Honda gave up on cruisers... you have Rebels which are cruiser-ish looking naked bikes, the Fury which is chopper like and probably get axed soon, or you have a couple Shadows with their tiny little 750CC engines... that's it. If you want super high tech carish-bike then you have the Goldwing, but I prefer cruisers. There really isn't a lot of options in the metric world any more for cruisers, its all dying out.
I currently have a deposit down on a 2024 Kawasaki Vulcan Voyager. (the full dress version) I agree to some extent with some of the things you do not like about the bike...especially when it comes to the fit and finish. I have been trying hard to beat the "bang for your buck" factor these bikes have though. The base version of the Road Glide is $26,000. Vs. $19699 By the time you have added on all the items that are on the Voyager onto the Road Glide or move to the Ultra Limited you are well north of $32,000. Yes! you get all kinds of electronic tech abilities, but is it worth the extra money??? I would love to do a Harley, but I am turned off by the cost and reports of issues with many of their models. The BMW I am replacing has been a high cost, high maintenance bike. I am determined to stay away from that kind of situation again. When you research reliability, the metric bikes have been more reliable hands down. Although the numbers are dated, Consumer Report rated Harley @ 26% failure rate after 4 years vs. Kawasaki @ 15% after 4 years of operation. My Beamer used every bit of its 40% failure rate. I would love a Harley. I would love to buy an American made machine, but the only way I can afford one is to buy used. I refuse to buy used bike with no warranty that is know to have expensive issues. Bottom line...money.
This completely... reliability and low cost of ownership is much more important. While I have plenty of money I could burn on a Harley or two, I don't just want to throw money away for some type of style or what people think of my bikes. I've ridden a lot of miles with a few long trips on my dad's Voyager, and its a very comfortable large bike made to crunch miles and be very reliable. Its a great machine I'd trust to go do thousands of miles on without issues.
I have the 2023 Vulcan Voyager and I absolutely love it, put over 4k miles on it in two months. Do yourself a favor, make sure you pick that bike up. Purchase the extended warranty as well , it's only about $700 for 6 years if I remember correctly. I have not flashed mine, has enough power and runs smooth enough for me, it seems the more the engine breaks in the better the bike runs. I would definitely choose the Voyager over any type of Harley, and like to ride my bike more than having it sit at the shop because of mechanical failure. Put buy Harley because of the name, but the reliability sucks. If I were to win a HD , I still wouldn't ride it, I would sell it. To me they are overrated and over priced. The Voyager does tend to run hot if you are stuck in traffic and the plastic piece on the gas tank rattles(vibration) when acceleration are my only complaints. Not sure if an Ivans Flash would fix the running hot issue or not. But definitely purchase that 2024 Voyager, love the color. Bike is also extremely comfortable to ride all day long.
@@RUclipshatesconservativespeech Definitely glad to hear what you have to say about your bike. ETA on mine is end of March. I was on the fence about the extended warranty, but it is reasonably priced. I have read a lot about the heat issue. Curious if they run hot at speed, or if it is at low speed city driving. On my Beamer there is a large temp difference between highway and city riding. It seems to me all the Ivan’s flash does is kick on the fans sooner, so it just means it never has a chance to get into the upper range of temperature not that it actually makes the bike run cooler.
@@johnensink1514 No it doesn't run hot while riding the fwy or regular city roads. It does however tend to run hot while stuck in traffic. I have not done the Ivans Flash as of yet because I'm not sure if it would void my warranty. I will say that even without the Ivan Flash my bike runs perfectly smooth and No back -firing, I guess it's all in how you break your engine in. The more miles I put on the better my bike runs. I'm thinking the only reason I would do the Ivan Flash is to make the fan come on sooner. Also, I would get the extended warranty, it's only about $700 and that's worth the peace of mind.
@@RUclipshatesconservativespeech the backfiring issue is due to modifications to the exhaust and or air cleaner. Doing an Ivan‘s flash will definitely void your warranty. If your dealer plugs into your bike, they’ll have the whole history of what’s going on with the bike. It is my intention to keep the bike stock, except for rider, comfort type modifications.
I will agree that Kawasaki needs to upgrade the audio system. This bike is 99% unchanged from the 2011 original model. That carbon fiber was done aftermarket, that is not a stock item. air intake, exhaust and Ivan's flash will make this bike have around 90 HP and 115 ft/lbs of torque not bad for a stage 1 of a 103 cubic inch engine. I can just hear the Kawasaki Vaquero enthusiasts cringing on this video, it reminds me of my video on the goldwing I test rode and was pretty brutal on reviewing, had alot of unkind responses as to be expected. Lol, keep on bring the videos. We all have our preferences and opinions!
I bought a new 2023 Kawasaki "No Glide" last Summer. I live in Hawaii, so the bike is ok for day trips around here. I get quite a few compliments on the way the bike looks (yep, the fairing too). The bike you rode in your demo had been screwed with by its previous owner. The fairing had been removed and wasn't put back right, the windscreen was aftermarket, the headlight was definitely aftermarket, Vaqueros don't come with auxiliary lights, and that crappy carbon fiber vinyl just looked stupid. The lack of aftermarket accessories is a huge disappointment for this bike. There are a few accessories out there, but you really have to look and you better be prepared to pay way too much for what you find. In South Carolina there's a guy named Ivan who can work some magic with the ECM. It sucks that we should have to go through shipping our ECM him for a reflash just to get the throttle response and a couple extra HP that should come from the factory. I'm by no means saying I have buyer's remorse. I wanted one of these bikes for years and finally got one. But now that I have it, I can definitely say this is my first and my last.
I think if you go into it knowing it's shortcomings it makes a big difference. This will be my next bike coming from sport bikes and I'm o.k. where it falls short and I already have a list of upgrades I want to fix the few things I don't like. Its a short list of possible upgrades but I can live with it for the price of the bike. $25-$30k for an HD or Indian is insane.
As a kawasaki vulcan voyager owner, I agree with you 100%. Kawasaki owners have been waiting for an upgrades for 15 years. In the world of hi-tech motorcycles, yes, these motorcycles are waaaay overpriced. Almost 20k and they don't even have bluetooth, keyless start, or heated seats, and the accessories are almost non-existent. But, for those out there who don't want a t.v. screen as a dashboard, or just want basic simplicity and reliability of a retro 80s motorcycle, then you can't beat this motorcycle.
@RousosrGL I'm tired of hearing that excuse. How much more money would Bluetooth cost? Kawasaki charges $600 dollars for the basic radio that comes with the motorcycle. I can buy a digital Bluetooth marine stereo with XM radio, weather band, with programmable channels for less than $400. You guys keep using that "keep the price down" bulls!t excuse for 13 years. Meanwhile, Harley-Davidson just LOWERED their prices on their ROAD Glide and Street Glide, and their basic options run circles around the Voyager!
I have a 2021 model. I only agree with the clutch. I'm sure you can also get it cheaper than you quoted. I love the dash. It has only what is needed and up high where you don't have to look down to see what's going on. For what you save compared to Harley, you can add quite a bit of accessories. An ECU flash does wonders for the acceleration. The handling is excellent even at creeping speeds. I don't know why the fairing has play,but mine doesn't. I can do an iron butt next to any touring bagger.
There's nothing at all wrong with the fairing, and Iove the retro gauges. I think the dash is unique and cool. I've read tons of very positive reviews. I think you're being extremely harsh. If you were to compare it's bigger brother, which is mostly the same but more traditional looking with its colors and chrome. It's literally a $10k difference!
Own several bikes. Not limited too but including a 23 Voyager and a 24 Heritage 114. The Voyager is a steal at 18,200 brand new. Full dresser. The only comparable Harley starts at the road glide limited at 33k. The Harley is definitely more powerful, efficient and fit and finish is top notch. Its also 84% more money for the Harley, lol. The Voyager is for some one who wants to pile on 200k miles with minimal money spent. And it WILL do that in all its ugly bastard glory.
Hs has some valid points but these bikes are bullet proof i have looked at harleys for a long time but in my comparisons for a 50 to 60000income i cant justify ownership cost of a harley.
As a non-bagger guy if I were buying a bagger I'd buy a Vulcan Voyager. In Canada these bikes are around CAD$23K new vs CAD$42K for a Road King Limited with Tour Pack. The Road King is prettier and more nicely finished for sure but for a lot less than the $15K price difference you could make a few select upgrades and still come in well under the price of the Harley. Long term reliability - Kawasaki all day long. A very cheap tune will improve the engine considerably. LED dashes, electronics, GPS etc. . . . I'd take old school analogue any day of the week and buy aftermarket standalone devices as they are generally better than factory installed ones and you are not held to ransom when requiring GPS updates etc. When I am riding I am looking at the scenery, not my bike so provided it gets me to where I am going comfortably that's all that matters. Power and handling. As an FJR1300 rider almost any bagger will suck in both departments. I test rode a Road King Limited and it definitely likes to go in straight lines and acceleration is not in the same league as the FJR. I like Harley's but I think they are way over priced for what they are and if I wanted a 2-wheeled sofa with e V-Twin engine that will cover long distances comfortably and normal speeds I'd go for the Kawasaki.
I’ve been riding Kawasaki Vulcans since 2007. I’ve had. 1500 Classic, a 1600 Nomad, and I now have a 1600 Classic. When I went to trade in my 2006 in 2009 for the new 1700 model I was shocked by all the plastic and generally how cheap it felt. I planned on buying the 1700 LT, but everything seemed so flimsy. So I decided to go with the 1600 platform and found an ‘08 Nomad. The difference in quality between the two platforms was night and day. I rode that ‘08 for 10 years, then decided it was time for something a little lighter, so I sold it and bought a 1600 Classic, which is the bike I’m riding now and I love it. It’s 100 lbs lighter than the Nomad and is so much easier to handle. Unfortunately, the Vaquero is like the other 1700 models: it looks good from a distance but cheap up close, and it hasn’t changed in 12 years. A new one at $20,000 will be marked down as a left-over to about $14,000 the following spring, which speaks volumes about how much they hold their value. But despite the cheap looking plastic, they’re good bikes, and like most Kawasaki Vulcans, will run forever.
Comparing an HD BAGGER to the Vaquero is like comparing a Chevy Corvette to a Chevy Camaro? I just don’t see how considering the huge overpriced HD bikes that the new owner must spend an additional 10k to sort the bike out ??? 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I had a 2023 and sold it after 6 months. The things I hated most about it were the top-heavy weight and the engine that ran hot. For a liquid cooled bike, it was awful in traffic.
I have seen multiple Harleys run off the road into the corn field drag it out and still looks fine, do that on a Vaquero and you'll be replacing broken plastic, but you can replace a lot of plastic for 5 to 10 grad.
Most of this stuff is minor, I will agree that they need to come up with an updated version as this model has been unchanged for it seems more than a decade now.
Ivan performance is the company to go to to clean up the power band on these bikes. They're horrible from the factory. Kawasaki cut corners with this bike and it really hasn't changed since it debuted in 09. Getting them used is a affordable way to get into a bagger. But most people do quite a of aftermarket modifications to make them more comfortable and enjoyable
Towards the end of my 4800 mi trip, some Harley A-Hole laid a note wrapped in a cheap wash cloth on my seat at a hotel. The note was cleaning instructions for a bike. WTF WAS THAT ABOUT??? There were 5 bikes in the lot. Mine and 4 Harley’s. I rode through Sturgis and I lost count of Harley’s on trailers. Lighten up Biker Boy. Buy what you want and mind your own FKN business.
When I look at reviews to find information on a motorcycle or anything that I want to buy, I actually look for negative reviews to see what people don’t like about the product. I think that is more insightful to me than everyone say how great it is.
I had a 2012 Kawasaki Vulcan Vaquero. I really liked it but it was so heavy so I traded it. Now I have an 2018 Chieftain Elite which is huge upgrade to the Kawasaki. The thunderstruck 111 is such stronger than the Kawasaki. All in all I would say the Kawasaki is like a Glock every Glock look the same since the 80's. I know that the 2012 through the 2020 they didn't change much. I much happier with the Indian. I like your vids both motorcycle and guns.
Sold my 2023 Vaquero. I loved the retro cockpit. It ran too hot. Second gear shifts CLUNK way to loud. What I hated the most was this bike is so top heavy it is a struggle to get it off the side stand. The cruise control buttons are on the wrong side of the handlebars and CR engages too abruptly.
Sorry but you clearly shouldn't making these videos I know you can but you shouldn't as all you did is keep bringing up HDs. If your going to do a review please familiarize yourself with the bike before making comments. As I have found out HD riders can't be bias with other bike's as you guys drink the kool-aid so bad that you think that HDs are great bike's.
I recently purchased a 2019 Voyager, which is basically a Vaquero with luggage. If the vaquero and the voyager had more electronics, it would be sold at a higher price point. The idea of these bikes is to offer riders a less expensive touring bike give you "retro" styling. I will say that there are things that annoy me about the Voyager. 1. No blue tooth connection for the radio and so far have only found one place to get a blue tooth connection for it. It's 2019 Kawasaki....get with it! 2. The horn switch placement. it's on the inside of the high beam low beam switch so you have to reach over it to get to the horn to use it. "This car is going to pull out in front of me,!" You go to hit the horn and all you do is make your headlight brighter. Very poor placement choice. 3. The stock hand grips are rather small in circumference. I'm 6'2" and have "musicians" hands. Long fingers so gripping them for long rides my wrists get very sore and I don't grip very tightly. After riding a Vulcan 900LT Classic for almost 20 years with Kuryakin grips, I never had this issue. (Yes I am replacing them with aforementioned Kuryakin) 4. As mentioned before I am 6'2" and I feel I have less "space" on the bike. On the 900 I was able to have my legs farther forward and have a more relaxed seating position. Of course I had a Mustang seat with a backrest so that might have a little to do with it. The Mustang was a flatter seat without that kawasaki seat slope so I was able to sit a little father back. (The Voyager seat is super comfortable so I am rather averse to changing it. I rode the bike home from N.H. to CT the day I bought it using all backroads. Took 4 hours and I felt I could go another 4 hours.) The Pros 1. The bike is 892lbs but doesn't ride like it. It is extremely well balanced. 2. It doesn't have the highest torque but it does have plenty of giddyup and go for it's 1700cc engine. (Need to send the ECU to Ivans for a flash as I am changing the stock exhaust out for some Sharkroads) 3. The stock stereo is fairly decent. Just have to make adjustments on the EQ to your tastes. (I usually am cranking Orbit Culture, Dimmu Borgir, Septic Flesh etc. and even with my earplugs in, it's plenty loud enough without distorting the music) 4. Going from the Vulcan 900 to the Voyager 1700, yes there was a bit of a learning curve, but after about 1000 miles, I've learned the bike and it's quite pleasurable to ride. The ABS and the K-Act brakes are fantastic. 5. The rear trunk holds 2 full faced helmets and the side cases are very spacious 6. The antenna swivels and folds over on a hinge so that you don't have to make any accommodations for a cover. There are so many pros to this bike I cannot fit 'em all in here. There will be pros and cons to every bike.
see some here with over 60,000miles on them, what's your more expensive Harley doing? I've owned 4 harleys too-road glide special, irons, street bobs and pan ams and I can say they won't last
I have a vaquero It’s a decent bike. Better than most Wasn’t the bike I truly wanted. So I’m not in love with it I want a victory cross country or a vision
Good review of the Kawi ,, it is an outstanding bike but OUTDATED . It needs some updates to bring it up in line with the newer cruisers. Suzuki does the "single color option" on their bikes and they need updates as well. I own one.... good bike but in ways, it sucks. Good video and ride safe!
I never understood why it's easier to have to pull the clutch further in than mostly out. I can shift gears way easier and quicker. The cockpit is what I liked about the bike. Beautiful! The suspension has been better than HD since 2009. The engine runs cooler with the ECU flash done. The power is fine not great, but sufficient. The bags look good, but I agree about the side opening. The bike is cheaper for sure, but absolutely more reliable. New I wouldn't buy it but used it's a screaming deal. It's a great riding machine that needs an update. You're ugly LOL!! just kidding but HD and Indian are overpriced and would NEVER buy them new either. I'd buy what I can find at the best price period!
First time I sat on this was after sitting on a Road Glide on the same sales floor. I was incredibly disappointed with the Vaquero. It looked and felt very cheaply-made
Good observations! Usually when people drop big money on a bike. They have to justify it, and only talk about the good. I spent $15k on a brand new 2018 Africa twin. I’ve never hated a bike so much. I gave that bike 3 years, and got rid of it. I was considering getting a used one of these as a commuter. Just about everything you pointed out would have driven me nuts.
7:00 "That faux carbon fiber" that you didn't like (was flaking and peeling) isn't factory. The guy put something over the console doors and headlight bracket (cheap vinyl wrap?) The teal and white was a '22 Voyager (not a vaquero). As far as the fairing... the headlamp, fake carbon fiber housing, the round lights in the vents, and the windscreen were all aftermarket additions by the owner. Thanks for the "objective" review. Sorry it didn't "resignate" with you. Then to title the video with "hate" in all caps.... wow. RUclips magic. lol LOL
I agree that the front-end fairing looks hideous. But again, I am the guy who hates the Road Glide fairing as well. Ugly in my view. I remember when the Road Glide came out in 1980 under the name Tour Glide. They made it until the mid-1990s and then stopped production. Then, a few years later, they relaunched it (much to my disappointment) and rebranded it Road Glide.
I really think your being harsh....if this was 2011. This most likely will be my next bike because gently used they are $10-$12k (even new they can be had for $15k) and at that price its hard to beat. But the bike launched in 2011 and hasn't changed one bit and that's it's achilleas heel for sure, I don't think they sell enough to justify it.. Most of the small things are easily fixed (Ivan's ecu flash will supposedly completely change the bike) and there is a small but focused aftermarket for these to soften some of the flaws. To be fair HD is one of the most stagnant brands out there, a better bike for sure, but just as stale for a whole lot more money (the 2024's are looking pretty good though).
Harley Davidson better in name only not quality. Harleys are notorious for breaking down and ruining road trips when riding in groups. It's always the Harley having mechanical issues.
@@RUclipshatesconservativespeech Reliability is getting a lot better and to me they do feel more premium than metric cruisers, but, not $10-$15k more premium.
Hegshot Rides, this is a horrible review, you do not know what you are talking about. I had a Kawasaki Vaquero and I loved everything about it. It is a very comfortable bike and you can ride it for ten hours without getting tired.
Loved mine. If anything....to sterile. performed perfectly competently. Great choice if your moving up to V-twins. SPECIALLY USED. I paid 8k when a used Road Glide was 16K. Kawi was SMooooth. Just no soul. I do now have a Road Glide. Gotta take steps in life.
Even the Electra-glide standard 2010 model came in bleu in 2009 in USA and 2010 in Europe. Then the model disappeared for a while. Still ride the bleu Standard E-glide today !
Typical review from a Harley cult member. This bike is almost 10 thousand dollars cheaper has everything you need in a bagger. Except the crazy price and the road side problems.
I watched this and had many comments come to mind. I think the best thing to say is everybody is entitled to there own opinion. It is a normal Harley brand loyal guys review.
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I love my Vaquero!
The clutch is fine, and the lever is span adjustable - I love the dash and the simplicity is a selling point for me. My electronics are on my phone and in my helmet.
It’s not underpowered after a tune - faster than a 107 and beauty is in the eye of the beholder - it’s more of a stone axe than a cutting edge but gets the job done with heft and balance.
The faux carbon isn’t stock.
yeah that Ivan tune fixes the power issue
People are delusional thinking Harleys that cost so much more are better than this motorcycle. An extra $10k can go a long way to making this bike way better than an entry level Harley that you get for the same dough.
Although you are certainly entitled to your opinion, I find it mind boggling that you continually compare a $20k Vaquero to a $30k Harley-Davidson. Styling differences aside, (which are totally subjective) it’s unrealistic to expect a machine that costs 66% of an H-D to have the same level fit and finish, etc.
The kaw is superior in every aspect
I have been driving a 2009 vulcan 900 classic for 3 years. My first bike I have owned while I have had a license. I have been driving off and on for years without a license.
I wanted a bit more power. So I checked out a HD. Omfg, first thing I thought was I need a new gym membership, so I can operate the clutch. The way it felt while riding, the rattling. I was fairly sure that I was leaving parts behind me. It reminded me of a video I saw about how the Honda CT 125 vibrates it accessories off. That's even if you use lock tight
I'm finding with a HD, it's the name you are buying. Paying at least $8k - $10k for a name. An you can't forget how obnoxiously loud they are. I find it hilarious that a guy is sitting on his bike blasting music that you can only hear while stopped.
HD is a cult
Also look at the used market, the kawis are actually affordable for anyone not collecting dentist or lawyer money.
Can't stomach owning a Harley anymore.
Fit and finish ?? My brother's bike have more dummy lights going off than a jeep. Not to mention he told me that the Milwaukee 8 moto had plastic pieces in motor. Push rod sleeves or something like that. Harley is trash. The only issue I have had from my Honda is trying to find after market handlebars. I change the oil and keep the battery up and I grab and go. No tinkering bs
I agree with you on some stuff. I also agree with the bags. I prefer the lids to open from the top. Also the carbon fiber isn't a factory feature on the bike it was added on. Yes MSRP is $20,000 but most dealers will sell them to you for around $17,500 brand new. You can also pick up a nice used one for under $12,000. You can't pick up a new HD Road Glide for under $28,000otd anymore. You don't like the dash but I personally love the old school dash, but I am also one of those who don't care for all the electronics that new bikes have. Fit and finish def could be better, but where that 1700cc bike is better than every other Vtwin is how bulletproof it is. The bike just keeps going with very little $$$$$ compared to other brands. I love my Harley but I am tired to paying out the ass to keep it on the road and my next bike will be a metric bike.
Yes, well known to go 100k or more with oil, air and spark plug changes. Youll run in to fork maintenaince closer to 100k. Very simple, cost effectibe bikes to maintain. They dont look or feel like a Harley at all and def not as powerful or as efficient
Yes, well lnown to go 100k miles with the utmost basic maintenaince schedules. It wont look or feel like a Harley tho. Definitely not as powerful or as efficient either. Own a 23 Voyager alomg with a 24 Heritage 114
Excellent comment. Couldn’t agree more.
My 1st bike was a Kawasaki 440 LTD and the thing was bullet proof. I rode that thing like I stolen it! My last bike was a 2005 Honda VTX 1800n and it too was bullet proof, it just ran. I have ridden many bikes over the years and have at least test ridden every Harley Davidson they have built. The only two I every liked was the softail deluxe and the crossbones but initial cost and constant and expensive maintenance is not for me.
'Rice Burners' just work and they work well. Well built, powerful and won't let you down on the road or in your bank account. In the end bikes are like art, to each his own but unlike art they are toys for big boys and I never look at them as investments!
@@richvangorder3900HARLEY EFFICIENT??? I just wrapped up a 4800 mi 14 day 14 state ride. My Harley buddy was googling Harley Dealers along our route daily. There’s a reason. I changed my oil and pushed the start button.
Kawasaki is amazing, they know it but they don’t judge other manufacturers.
Harley painted themselves into a corner and they are dieing on the vine.
I actually love this Kawasaki and hate all the Harley baggers.
The Harley baggers look like Down syndrome bikes.
Lol
I love it when Harley guys try to do an objective review for another brand!
You should see his two videos about all the problems with his new 2024 Road Glide. On his 2nd day of ownership he had to have the Road Glide towed to a dealer to get an "electronic" update. The more features your motorcycle has means more chances of a breakdown. My 97 Honda Shadow ACE VT1100 is as simple as you can get: two wheels, spark, air and fuel.
@@jaepatron6266 Bro, I have heard that from both the new Road and Street Glides. Not sure if it's new gen pains, but it's not reassuring to hear for the brand.
Hardly riders are losers anyhow. They tend to be tRUMP lovers!
😂 I’m gonna make a review on a metric motorcycle, but talk more about Harley.
Harley is Metric
And woke
@@ghostmost2614 Say what? Last time I worked on a Harley, it was inches not milimiter on the tools,……….
@@ghostmost2614If they are woke or not… couldnt give a shit
I have the Voyager. The only thing I would even remotely consider as an "issue" is the 70% throttle, which an Ivan flash takes care of. Everything else is preference. Clutch is adjustable. Plus, my warranty is until December 15th of 2029 (may as well say 2030) for 17K. Full fairing. All the sammich space. Likely won't need that warranty, but I did hear of a Voyager breaking down once. Guy ran out of gas. Crazy.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally love the Vaquero. Didn’t like the colour options (or lack thereof). If you want HD quality, buy a HD, but as to bang for the buck you won’t find a more reliable bike. Dare I say it, likely more reliable than HD.
Is it perfect? No, but the things that you hate are things that I love. The simplicity and unencumbered nature of the machine is what I love about it. It does need pipes and an Ivan’s flash, but that’s more about throttle response than being underpowered.
As to the saddlebags? Your assumptions about insecurity of contents is dead wrong. I use liners and I actually prefer the side opening bag. Thousands of miles (many with overstuffed bags) and never had a problem.
I love HD, but for the money, you won’t buy a better bike than the Vaquero.
I agree with you, bang for the buck I love the Vaquero. I call it the poor mans Hardly Davidson. I really love the gauges and looks of the bike and have always really loved the sound of that bike with upgraded exhaust! Yes, it is not as refined, but I am not paying for the refinement with this. I love HD's, but I have always loved this bike too! I appreciate that is has hydraulic valve lash adjusters and is liquid cooled too. Not alot of aftermarket stuff for it, but there is stuff if you know where to look!
@@AnthonysWestTexasRides Exactly!
That’s a fair response.
And you won't pull up to a bar and see 60 of the same bike your riding (AHEM, street glide, AHEM).
I'm glad they're not trying to look like a HD .
The cockpit is what I love about it. It's simple and old school looking. I don't care about the digital stuff though. Give me a Speedo, gas gauage, RPM Gauge, and I'm good. I'll never use the Radio with the headsets today. Plus the price is cheap with a liquid cooled engine.
The one thing about Kawasaki and most japanese cruisers, is the trim doesn't have the fit and finish that you get from Harley. As far as power, get an Ivan's tune on it, and it will wake it up and make it a beast.
One thing to consider, the bread and butter for the japanese companies, are their sport bike lines. So they use the Vulcan line and the others that require little R&D and use that profit to put towards the R&D of their other money makers. For guys lik me, simple is better. I love The Road King Special over the Road Glide and Street Glide. But the Vaquero, for the price, I get more for the money and a Very reliable engine. No, I'm not saying Harley engines are junk. Not saying that at all. I know personally, the kawasaki engines last a very long time.
I can see your points and they’re valid. Vaqueros are different colors every year. Overall I have found mine to be super reliable and despite the looseness of the end of the fairing and chin spoiler, they have not cracked or even loosened up over time. Performance is ok, Kawasaki has not refined or updated the bike since its inception. But if you are in the market for a comfortable, competent motorcycle it excels there. Not the fastest, doesn’t hug curves like a sport bike, just runs reliably and requires minimal maintenance.
I had a Nomad 1700 for years. Same engine and frame. Underpowered for sure (until i put the Ivan tune on it) but it was super reliable. I beat the living crap out of it and it never complained. the best thing you can say about these bikes is that they will never die.
I have a 2016 Kawasaki Vaquero that I bought brand new.
A pair of Cobra slip-ons, and Ivan reprogram of the computer was all it needed.
Basic maintenance stuff, oil changes etc.
Zero issues with this bike.
It runs strong, sounds good, and most people think it looks good.
Traded in an ElectraGlide twin cam for it that was nothing but problems.
Noisy valves, leaking and burning oil.
The Kawasaki has been nothing but trouble free for 8 years.
I like Harleys, but spinning the roulette wheel and hoping you get a good one is too big of a gamble for the price...
Literally going to look at a 23 for 17,500 at a dealer lol
How did it work out for you? Genuinely curious.
I found one for 16,xyz and so far it's great
On my 2016 I just wrapped up a 4800 mi trip. FLAWLESS!!!
I just bought a Vaquero this winter, I'm waiting for our Canadian snow to leave so I can ride it. Everything mentioned in this video, I can live with. The biggest reasons I bought one was the price and reliability. First the price, I paid $22,000 tax in and extended warranty. While I was shopping for bikes of course I looked at Harley and Indian ... a used road glide was $39,000 USED. I know there are lots of Harley riders out there that apparently like to spend twice as much as they have too. Next is the reliability. Any Kawasaki dealer can work on this bike. I don't have to put it on a trailer and haul it 5 hours in any direction to get to a Harley or Indian dealer. I'm hoping that Kawasaki has kept up the same reliability on the Vaquero as they did with with old dirt bikes and 4 wheelers.
Would I rather top loading saddlebags? Yes of course I would.
Would I rather a smoother, easier clutch? Yes of course I would.
But the fact of the matter is that this bike is half the price of a Harley or Indian, shops are available in most towns with more than 500 people. And you still get to ride a decent bike.
That's my 2 cents. I like your video's, keep it up bud!
They've been using this big engine platform for decades and has been proven to be bullet proof with no lack of power like this bozo says in the video. You'll love it man, i have a 2018 and I've done small stuff to make it more comfortable and i wouldn't want any other bike. If you ever want more throttle response (this guys issue with "no power") then send your ECU off to get Ivanized and its a whole different bike.
Also the clutch is fine and i have no clue what he's talking about with that but i guess everybody likes their clutches different
Id take this all with a grain of salt. i have had vulcan vaquero since 2018 and the Clutch is fine, ive been stuck in traffic and it's fine never had any issues. And power is never an issue, merge on freeway with me and wife (neither of us are small) with no issues. When i pass someone on the freeway you blink and you're doing 90mph and the rest is subjective. Pretty biased review from someone looking for stuff to hate.
I dig this dude and opinion is opinion but some of his latest vids are of his brand spanking new HD being broken down constantly from electrical gremlins, for literally twice the price. That says it all for me.
I own a 2009 Vulcan Voyager and I understand that it doesn’t stand up to the Harley Davison standards. I would never buy a new Vaquero or Voyager @ $20k, I would save up a little more and buy a Harley or Indian, but I bought mine used at a very good price and it has been a great bike for me. I have put 15k miles on it in the last 18 months I have owned it. It might not be a Harley, but it’s mine and I am thankful to have it.
Yeah and it will not leave you stranded on the side of the road like a Harley😂
I road the wheels off my '13 Voyager from 2017-2023. I would take that bike anywhere.
We've got a 24 Pursuit now and love it... but the Voyager was a great bike. He makes some good points about aesthetics.
I personally know two late model Harley’s owned by friends who have broken down since January. Also the dealer charges my buddies an arm and a leg for everything. I want a vaquero because everyone rides Harleys and a cruiser would be best for my back. The new denim blue Vaq is bad ass! This guy is a hater.
Clutch, Fit and finish and lack of colour choices I agree with. Ivan’s tune, BAK and exhaust really wake the engine up. I love the looks personally and have since they came out. have a 2017 with those upgrades and I haven’t had any of the Harley or Indians I rid with get away from me lol.
Seriously, the faring on that Harley looks like it belongs on a John Deer tractor.
I ride a Voyager 1700. For the money, it's the best bang for the buck. I cannot afford a $55,000 HD CVO. Perhaps you can but the Voyager gives me a full-on touring bike for under 20k.
I put 20K miles on my 2020 Vaquero. I got it new for $16000 all in, which is as cheap as you can get for a new bagger. Gotta expect some trade-offs at that price. Once you get the Ivan’s flash, the bike’s performance is pretty good and very reliable. Except for ABS in 2014, the bike has had no updates since it was introduced in 2011, so yeah it’s a little dated. I traded it in for a Challenger a couple of months ago, and the Challenger beats the Vaquero across the board, but the Vaquero is a pretty good bike for the money.
Appreciate you putting the time into this video, but this was not a stock bike and some of your dislikes are because of mods done before you took this for a ride. Things I noticed 1: hand grips not stock 2: carbon fiber wrap on boxes are not stock 3: air filter not stock 4: fit and finish with loose fairing parts (probably forgot to add screws after adding driving lights between top and botton fairing. I didn't see the exhaust but if they changed the air filter they probably changed the exhaust as well. I own a 2023 Vaquero and love it (sure the EPA throttling of the engine is BS) but that is the only thing I did to mine with the Ivans tune that not only evened out acceleration but improved mileage on longer rides. I would ask you ride a stock bike and make an honest opinion as whoever had this bike before you cut some corners on the mods.
Harleys have a tv screen but not liquid cooling 😂 wtf?
The fairing looks like the ones Kawasaki had when the highway patrol used them on their bikes. Remember the tv show "CHiPs"? I agree about side-opening bags - especially on the left side when the bike is on the kickstand. Open the bag - pick up your stuff.
Kawasaki is way better than the Harley equivalent. The only thing that Harley does better is paint.
Vaquero is a great looking bike and reliable could use radio upgrade and more color options
It's the best simple fixed fairing bagger you can buy. I would love a fixed fairing but dont really care for all the extra tech on the Indians and Harleys. A radio, linked brakes, abs and cruise control is all I'm really looking for. And grabbing one of these with low miles for under $14k is just too good to pass up.
"didn't resignate with me" lol genius
Lmfao. I read this comment as he said it. LOLLLL
Second vulcan for me. What's the deal with your backdrop?
Just picked up a new 2023 voyager 17.5k OTD. It's literally a Vaquero with the rear trunk. Already have a Goldwing and a sport bike for when i need some acceleration thrills. Anyway I love the Voyager, nice cruiser, very nimble and steady on the road. Love the rumble, yeah it has some plastic, but so what!! It's NOT underpowered. It redlines at 6k, it accelerates well especially when u shift near the redline. Anyway,, guys this like this make me want to buy metric bikes forever. He is not doing the Harley brand any favors by bashing non Harley bikes.
The vulcan line was dubbed the greatest cruisers of all time close to 30 years ago. Still are. Let's talk about performance and handling vs. the harleys.
I just hit 500 miles on a vaquero about an hour ago and comparatively to a Harley Price vs performance I'm pleased with the bike. Now I absolutely agree about many of the complaints. I have already added true duals to the bike and while it's not a harley sound, it does sound amazing. That said even before the exhaust I had a lot of throttle stutter and hesitation. The fact that a tune on a new bike is needed blows my mind. The saddle bags make me want to throw a puppy off of a high rise building. My biggest complaint and the one that actually pisses me off about the bike is the sound system, or lack of one that's capable of the same that the lowest level car being bought today can accomplish. Now with all my hate about the bike out I did purchase a 23 with 0 miles for damn near 16k so i consider that a good deal even with the faults.
It may lack in ascetics and power but you get super reliability!
And cost!
OMG don't even rate a bike if you can't appreciate the quality of the bike and an information point that bad clutch you say I've got 115.000 miles and that's the original clutch. Im presuming that be 3 or 4 Harley clutch changes. And at 65 with carpel tunnel AH NO ISSUES lol
Vaquero Rider here, the clutch feels just fine to me. And given the fact that an equally equipped road glide, costs about 10k more. I'll ride the shit out of my Kawasaki vs an equally equipped road glide all day long. Plus Harley is air cooled vs Kawasak liquid cooled. The fit and finish on my bike is just fine. All I keep hearing is a bias opinion of Harley Davidson. Not capping on Harley Davidson, but my opinion is that I want something that nobody else has. Only thing I personally agree with is that the color option is leaving a lot to be desired.
Just a few years ago these bikes were selling for as little as $13,000 after incentives and dealer discounts. Now they are asking nearly $20,000 without any significant changes to the design or upgrades. Yeah, not even any color options. If you could get one for about $15,000 out the door then ..... maybe.
I owned a 2012 Vaquero for about 8 years. The plastic and lack of accessories are what made it a giant disappointment. Power was good and did a ton of miles with my boy. I now own a road king. Big difference. I'll keep the road king hands down. Thanks for the video.
Thanks man
These may list for $20k but I’ve never seen any of these bikes sell for more than $16-$17k new. Used is the way to go. Now you’re at $10k.
Far as the paint u can get it painted or wrapped & it still wouldn't break down like HD
I definitely enjoy my 2012 Kawasaki voyager. Which basically is a Vaquero just with the trunk and top opening lids for the side bags. But it definitely could use some updating. But without the updating, that's one of the ways that they can keep the price down. It's more for those who don't want all of The Flash and new technology. And the other downfall is that they really do not have a lot of aftermarket parts directly for them. You have to actually do measurements and order the parts and hope for the best.
I have a 2010 Voyager which pretty much the full dressr version on the Vaquero. I like the bike. Granted yes does it need some more tech options, indeed. But hands down for the price you pay it is a very reliable bike. Thanx for the video
The Vaquero / Voyager are about the same since introduced 15 years ago. In 2010 I chose the Voyager over the Road Glide. It was a better bike and better value. I put 60,000 miles on it. In 2016 with the Rushmore Project The Road Glide was a better bike so I traded for a '16 Road Glide Ultra.
I have no clue what youre talking about with the clutch, you must have got a shit one cause mine is instant, the bag also have liners to hold things in them and organizers. And for the power, they have more then enough power than what youre letting on just by reading spec sheets. If you still have a issue with the power then get the IVAN flaah and its a night and day difference. The amount of Harley copium is wild. Youre comparing a 30-40k bike to a 18k one and have your expectations way too high for a perfectly capable cruiser and a more reliable one at that
owned 6 road kings, 1 ultra classic, 1 softail and 1 street glide, from evo to 88,96, 103, 107, 114, bought the 23 vaquero, for 15 k and love it, ivan reflash a must, windshield is a joke, far from perfect but the most comfortable and nice low center of gravity, 67 yrs old ,53yrs of riding, its a good bike, harleys hold value much better , better sou n d system's, but last time i looked , a street glide will run about 30 k, mid 40's for a cvo, i think that is just foolish to spend that kind of money, just my opinion tho
Love my Voyager... added what i wanted... has possibly more options than the new HD... heated seat.. grips... True navigation with a non pay rain radar... once the ecu gets flashed- it's a different bike. 70k miles... no dealer maintenance money spent. Also.. i have a keyless ignition
The fairing on the Kawasaki is way way way better than the road glide. I think the road glide has the ugliest fairing of any bike.
I have to agree 100%. And the new ones look just as stupid
And the Harley is a slow bike too
Agreed
@@EcSsAwSfaster than that kawi!!
My Vaquero with V&H slip ons and a K&N plus a flash has never lost to a 103 or 107 SG or RG with the same mods. 💯@@roycarlson6783
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Good day, I bought a 2020 new paid $18,300.00 canadian. I think the comparable harley is $5,000.00 plus more. Some of you comments I agree with. The colour is change every year but yes only one color per year. They started these bikes in 2011 and the dash is exactly the same to date. I contacted Kawasaki when I bought it and complained. The enginge is chocked up from the factory due to emissions however Ivan Tune takes care of that and its not expensive. The failing I love however live the Harley bat wing but not that one one yours. I think it looks terrible. Ti be honest every bike has there little things. To make a fair comparison to a harley bike put one beshide it tgatscomparable then compare, price on down. And as far as I know alot of the harley bike is now made outside of America if I'm not mistaken.
I have worked at a shop that sold metrics. To be blunt there are a lot of cost saving measures done. If you want a cheaper cruiser than a HD or Indian go with a Honda. The old VTX series are still well built and a good value.
Honda gave up on cruisers... you have Rebels which are cruiser-ish looking naked bikes, the Fury which is chopper like and probably get axed soon, or you have a couple Shadows with their tiny little 750CC engines... that's it. If you want super high tech carish-bike then you have the Goldwing, but I prefer cruisers. There really isn't a lot of options in the metric world any more for cruisers, its all dying out.
I currently have a deposit down on a 2024 Kawasaki Vulcan Voyager. (the full dress version) I agree to some extent with some of the things you do not like about the bike...especially when it comes to the fit and finish. I have been trying hard to beat the "bang for your buck" factor these bikes have though. The base version of the Road Glide is $26,000. Vs. $19699 By the time you have added on all the items that are on the Voyager onto the Road Glide or move to the Ultra Limited you are well north of $32,000. Yes! you get all kinds of electronic tech abilities, but is it worth the extra money??? I would love to do a Harley, but I am turned off by the cost and reports of issues with many of their models. The BMW I am replacing has been a high cost, high maintenance bike. I am determined to stay away from that kind of situation again. When you research reliability, the metric bikes have been more reliable hands down. Although the numbers are dated, Consumer Report rated Harley @ 26% failure rate after 4 years vs. Kawasaki @ 15% after 4 years of operation. My Beamer used every bit of its 40% failure rate. I would love a Harley. I would love to buy an American made machine, but the only way I can afford one is to buy used. I refuse to buy used bike with no warranty that is know to have expensive issues. Bottom line...money.
This completely... reliability and low cost of ownership is much more important. While I have plenty of money I could burn on a Harley or two, I don't just want to throw money away for some type of style or what people think of my bikes. I've ridden a lot of miles with a few long trips on my dad's Voyager, and its a very comfortable large bike made to crunch miles and be very reliable. Its a great machine I'd trust to go do thousands of miles on without issues.
I have the 2023 Vulcan Voyager and I absolutely love it, put over 4k miles on it in two months. Do yourself a favor, make sure you pick that bike up. Purchase the extended warranty as well , it's only about $700 for 6 years if I remember correctly. I have not flashed mine, has enough power and runs smooth enough for me, it seems the more the engine breaks in the better the bike runs.
I would definitely choose the Voyager over any type of Harley, and like to ride my bike more than having it sit at the shop because of mechanical failure. Put buy Harley because of the name, but the reliability sucks. If I were to win a HD , I still wouldn't ride it, I would sell it. To me they are overrated and over priced.
The Voyager does tend to run hot if you are stuck in traffic and the plastic piece on the gas tank rattles(vibration) when acceleration are my only complaints. Not sure if an Ivans Flash would fix the running hot issue or not.
But definitely purchase that 2024 Voyager, love the color. Bike is also extremely comfortable to ride all day long.
@@RUclipshatesconservativespeech Definitely glad to hear what you have to say about your bike. ETA on mine is end of March. I was on the fence about the extended warranty, but it is reasonably priced. I have read a lot about the heat issue. Curious if they run hot at speed, or if it is at low speed city driving. On my Beamer there is a large temp difference between highway and city riding. It seems to me all the Ivan’s flash does is kick on the fans sooner, so it just means it never has a chance to get into the upper range of temperature not that it actually makes the bike run cooler.
@@johnensink1514 No it doesn't run hot while riding the fwy or regular city roads. It does however tend to run hot while stuck in traffic. I have not done the Ivans Flash as of yet because I'm not sure if it would void my warranty.
I will say that even without the Ivan Flash my bike runs perfectly smooth and No back -firing, I guess it's all in how you break your engine in.
The more miles I put on the better my bike runs. I'm thinking the only reason I would do the Ivan Flash is to make the fan come on sooner.
Also, I would get the extended warranty, it's only about $700 and that's worth the peace of mind.
@@RUclipshatesconservativespeech the backfiring issue is due to modifications to the exhaust and or air cleaner. Doing an Ivan‘s flash will definitely void your warranty. If your dealer plugs into your bike, they’ll have the whole history of what’s going on with the bike. It is my intention to keep the bike stock, except for rider, comfort type modifications.
I will agree that Kawasaki needs to upgrade the audio system. This bike is 99% unchanged from the 2011 original model. That carbon fiber was done aftermarket, that is not a stock item. air intake, exhaust and Ivan's flash will make this bike have around 90 HP and 115 ft/lbs of torque not bad for a stage 1 of a 103 cubic inch engine. I can just hear the Kawasaki Vaquero enthusiasts cringing on this video, it reminds me of my video on the goldwing I test rode and was pretty brutal on reviewing, had alot of unkind responses as to be expected. Lol, keep on bring the videos. We all have our preferences and opinions!
I bought a new 2023 Kawasaki "No Glide" last Summer. I live in Hawaii, so the bike is ok for day trips around here. I get quite a few compliments on the way the bike looks (yep, the fairing too). The bike you rode in your demo had been screwed with by its previous owner. The fairing had been removed and wasn't put back right, the windscreen was aftermarket, the headlight was definitely aftermarket, Vaqueros don't come with auxiliary lights, and that crappy carbon fiber vinyl just looked stupid.
The lack of aftermarket accessories is a huge disappointment for this bike. There are a few accessories out there, but you really have to look and you better be prepared to pay way too much for what you find. In South Carolina there's a guy named Ivan who can work some magic with the ECM. It sucks that we should have to go through shipping our ECM him for a reflash just to get the throttle response and a couple extra HP that should come from the factory.
I'm by no means saying I have buyer's remorse. I wanted one of these bikes for years and finally got one. But now that I have it, I can definitely say this is my first and my last.
I think if you go into it knowing it's shortcomings it makes a big difference. This will be my next bike coming from sport bikes and I'm o.k. where it falls short and I already have a list of upgrades I want to fix the few things I don't like. Its a short list of possible upgrades but I can live with it for the price of the bike. $25-$30k for an HD or Indian is insane.
As a kawasaki vulcan voyager owner, I agree with you 100%. Kawasaki owners have been waiting for an upgrades for 15 years.
In the world of hi-tech motorcycles, yes, these motorcycles are waaaay overpriced. Almost 20k and they don't even have bluetooth, keyless start, or heated seats, and the accessories are almost non-existent.
But, for those out there who don't want a t.v. screen as a dashboard, or just want basic simplicity and reliability of a retro 80s motorcycle, then you can't beat this motorcycle.
Kawasaki is trying to keep the price down. If it's not broke don't fix it.
@RousosrGL I'm tired of hearing that excuse. How much more money would Bluetooth cost? Kawasaki charges $600 dollars for the basic radio that comes with the motorcycle. I can buy a digital Bluetooth marine stereo with XM radio, weather band, with programmable channels for less than $400.
You guys keep using that "keep the price down" bulls!t excuse for 13 years. Meanwhile, Harley-Davidson just LOWERED their prices on their ROAD Glide and Street Glide, and their basic options run circles around the Voyager!
@@MrNew122 Yeah but the Harleys are sure to break down and leave you stranded.
@@MrNew122 My 2022 has Bluetooth. Buy the adapter.
I have a 2021 model. I only agree with the clutch. I'm sure you can also get it cheaper than you quoted. I love the dash. It has only what is needed and up high where you don't have to look down to see what's going on. For what you save compared to Harley, you can add quite a bit of accessories. An ECU flash does wonders for the acceleration. The handling is excellent even at creeping speeds. I don't know why the fairing has play,but mine doesn't. I can do an iron butt next to any touring bagger.
There's nothing at all wrong with the fairing, and Iove the retro gauges. I think the dash is unique and cool. I've read tons of very positive reviews.
I think you're being extremely harsh. If you were to compare it's bigger brother, which is mostly the same but more traditional looking with its colors and chrome. It's literally a $10k difference!
Own several bikes. Not limited too but including a 23 Voyager and a 24 Heritage 114. The Voyager is a steal at 18,200 brand new. Full dresser. The only comparable Harley starts at the road glide limited at 33k. The Harley is definitely more powerful, efficient and fit and finish is top notch. Its also 84% more money for the Harley, lol. The Voyager is for some one who wants to pile on 200k miles with minimal money spent. And it WILL do that in all its ugly bastard glory.
I am an Harley rider who owned Kawa before! 1 thing that Kawa has that Harley don’t is Reliability!
Love it great bike. You can cruise 5000 miles and nothing to repair. It wil get you everywhere whitout anny problems
Hs has some valid points but these bikes are bullet proof i have looked at harleys for a long time but in my comparisons for a 50 to 60000income i cant justify ownership cost of a harley.
I bet that Kawasaki engine is twice as easy to service, maintain and will last longer than the HD...and 30% less the cost....tell me I'm wrong.😒
As a non-bagger guy if I were buying a bagger I'd buy a Vulcan Voyager. In Canada these bikes are around CAD$23K new vs CAD$42K for a Road King Limited with Tour Pack. The Road King is prettier and more nicely finished for sure but for a lot less than the $15K price difference you could make a few select upgrades and still come in well under the price of the Harley. Long term reliability - Kawasaki all day long. A very cheap tune will improve the engine considerably. LED dashes, electronics, GPS etc. . . . I'd take old school analogue any day of the week and buy aftermarket standalone devices as they are generally better than factory installed ones and you are not held to ransom when requiring GPS updates etc. When I am riding I am looking at the scenery, not my bike so provided it gets me to where I am going comfortably that's all that matters. Power and handling. As an FJR1300 rider almost any bagger will suck in both departments. I test rode a Road King Limited and it definitely likes to go in straight lines and acceleration is not in the same league as the FJR. I like Harley's but I think they are way over priced for what they are and if I wanted a 2-wheeled sofa with e V-Twin engine that will cover long distances comfortably and normal speeds I'd go for the Kawasaki.
I’ve been riding Kawasaki Vulcans since 2007. I’ve had. 1500 Classic, a 1600 Nomad, and I now have a 1600 Classic. When I went to trade in my 2006 in 2009 for the new 1700 model I was shocked by all the plastic and generally how cheap it felt. I planned on buying the 1700 LT, but everything seemed so flimsy. So I decided to go with the 1600 platform and found an ‘08 Nomad. The difference in quality between the two platforms was night and day. I rode that ‘08 for 10 years, then decided it was time for something a little lighter, so I sold it and bought a 1600 Classic, which is the bike I’m riding now and I love it. It’s 100 lbs lighter than the Nomad and is so much easier to handle. Unfortunately, the Vaquero is like the other 1700 models: it looks good from a distance but cheap up close, and it hasn’t changed in 12 years. A new one at $20,000 will be marked down as a left-over to about $14,000 the following spring, which speaks volumes about how much they hold their value. But despite the cheap looking plastic, they’re good bikes, and like most Kawasaki Vulcans, will run forever.
Comparing an HD BAGGER to the Vaquero is like comparing a Chevy Corvette to a Chevy Camaro? I just don’t see how considering the huge overpriced HD bikes that the new owner must spend an additional 10k to sort the bike out ??? 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I had a 2023 and sold it after 6 months. The things I hated most about it were the top-heavy weight and the engine that ran hot. For a liquid cooled bike, it was awful in traffic.
Same with me, ecu was Horrendous, backfire and spitting, ivan reflash a must! I sold mine quickly also,
I have seen multiple Harleys run off the road into the corn field drag it out and still looks fine, do that on a Vaquero and you'll be replacing broken plastic, but you can replace a lot of plastic for 5 to 10 grad.
Most of this stuff is minor, I will agree that they need to come up with an updated version as this model has been unchanged for it seems more than a decade now.
Ivan performance is the company to go to to clean up the power band on these bikes. They're horrible from the factory. Kawasaki cut corners with this bike and it really hasn't changed since it debuted in 09. Getting them used is a affordable way to get into a bagger. But most people do quite a of aftermarket modifications to make them more comfortable and enjoyable
The ecu is horrendous, ivan can lower fan temp to come on sooner, still sucks, loose warranty, another 1k on accessories and its still not right
Towards the end of my 4800 mi trip, some Harley A-Hole laid a note wrapped in a cheap wash cloth on my seat at a hotel. The note was cleaning instructions for a bike. WTF WAS THAT ABOUT??? There were 5 bikes in the lot. Mine and 4 Harley’s.
I rode through Sturgis and I lost count of Harley’s on trailers.
Lighten up Biker Boy. Buy what you want and mind your own FKN business.
My NUMBER 1 deal-breaker for any type bagger motorcycle is side opening saddlebags, specifically for the reasons you mentioned.
Thanks for the video; I was undecided on a Harley or the Vulcan; you sold me on this Vaquero.
The engine is bulletproof !
All I can say is Harleys are junk and kawis are leagues ahead of modt motorcycles in terms of tech, longevity anf reliability
When I look at reviews to find information on a motorcycle or anything that I want to buy, I actually look for negative reviews to see what people don’t like about the product. I think that is more insightful to me than everyone say how great it is.
I had a 2012 Kawasaki Vulcan Vaquero. I really liked it but it was so heavy so I traded it. Now I have an 2018 Chieftain Elite which is huge upgrade to the Kawasaki. The thunderstruck 111 is such stronger than the Kawasaki. All in all I would say the Kawasaki is like a Glock every Glock look the same since the 80's. I know that the 2012 through the 2020 they didn't change much. I much happier with the Indian. I like your vids both motorcycle and guns.
Harleys look like Kubota tractors with a better paint job.
Wonder how this stacks up with the Kawasaki Nomad? It’s discontinued.
Sold my 2023 Vaquero. I loved the retro cockpit. It ran too hot. Second gear shifts CLUNK way to loud. What I hated the most was this bike is so top heavy it is a struggle to get it off the side stand. The cruise control buttons are on the wrong side of the handlebars and CR engages too abruptly.
Sorry but you clearly shouldn't making these videos I know you can but you shouldn't as all you did is keep bringing up HDs. If your going to do a review please familiarize yourself with the bike before making comments. As I have found out HD riders can't be bias with other bike's as you guys drink the kool-aid so bad that you think that HDs are great bike's.
I recently purchased a 2019 Voyager, which is basically a Vaquero with luggage. If the vaquero and the voyager had more electronics, it would be sold at a higher price point. The idea of these bikes is to offer riders a less expensive touring bike give you "retro" styling. I will say that there are things that annoy me about the Voyager.
1. No blue tooth connection for the radio and so far have only found one place to get a blue tooth connection for it. It's 2019 Kawasaki....get with it!
2. The horn switch placement. it's on the inside of the high beam low beam switch so you have to reach over it to get to the horn to use it. "This car is going to pull out in front of me,!" You go to hit the horn and all you do is make your headlight brighter. Very poor placement choice.
3. The stock hand grips are rather small in circumference. I'm 6'2" and have "musicians" hands. Long fingers so gripping them for long rides my wrists get very sore and I don't grip very tightly. After riding a Vulcan 900LT Classic for almost 20 years with Kuryakin grips, I never had this issue. (Yes I am replacing them with aforementioned Kuryakin)
4. As mentioned before I am 6'2" and I feel I have less "space" on the bike. On the 900 I was able to have my legs farther forward and have a more relaxed seating position. Of course I had a Mustang seat with a backrest so that might have a little to do with it. The Mustang was a flatter seat without that kawasaki seat slope so I was able to sit a little father back. (The Voyager seat is super comfortable so I am rather averse to changing it. I rode the bike home from N.H. to CT the day I bought it using all backroads. Took 4 hours and I felt I could go another 4 hours.)
The Pros
1. The bike is 892lbs but doesn't ride like it. It is extremely well balanced.
2. It doesn't have the highest torque but it does have plenty of giddyup and go for it's 1700cc engine. (Need to send the ECU to Ivans for a flash as I am changing the stock exhaust out for some Sharkroads)
3. The stock stereo is fairly decent. Just have to make adjustments on the EQ to your tastes. (I usually am cranking Orbit Culture, Dimmu Borgir, Septic Flesh etc. and even with my earplugs in, it's plenty loud enough without distorting the music)
4. Going from the Vulcan 900 to the Voyager 1700, yes there was a bit of a learning curve, but after about 1000 miles, I've learned the bike and it's quite pleasurable to ride. The ABS and the K-Act brakes are fantastic.
5. The rear trunk holds 2 full faced helmets and the side cases are very spacious
6. The antenna swivels and folds over on a hinge so that you don't have to make any accommodations for a cover.
There are so many pros to this bike I cannot fit 'em all in here. There will be pros and cons to every bike.
Ride what you like and can afford.
First time on your channel. Helping you grow! I'll listen for a while!
Thanks man
see some here with over 60,000miles on them, what's your more expensive Harley doing? I've owned 4 harleys too-road glide special, irons, street bobs and pan ams and I can say they won't last
I have a vaquero It’s a decent bike. Better than most
Wasn’t the bike I truly wanted. So I’m not in love with it
I want a victory cross country or a vision
Good review of the Kawi ,, it is an outstanding bike but OUTDATED . It needs some updates to bring it up in line with the newer cruisers. Suzuki does the "single color option" on their bikes and they need updates as well. I own one.... good bike but in ways, it sucks. Good video and ride safe!
HDs break down straight off the showroom floor do a video on that & their no longer made in America
I never understood why it's easier to have to pull the clutch further in than mostly out. I can shift gears way easier and quicker. The cockpit is what I liked about the bike. Beautiful! The suspension has been better than HD since 2009. The engine runs cooler with the ECU flash done. The power is fine not great, but sufficient. The bags look good, but I agree about the side opening. The bike is cheaper for sure, but absolutely more reliable. New I wouldn't buy it but used it's a screaming deal. It's a great riding machine that needs an update. You're ugly LOL!! just kidding but HD and Indian are overpriced and would NEVER buy them new either. I'd buy what I can find at the best price period!
This guy is a beta 😂
First time I sat on this was after sitting on a Road Glide on the same sales floor. I was incredibly disappointed with the Vaquero. It looked and felt very cheaply-made
Good observations! Usually when people drop big money on a bike. They have to justify it, and only talk about the good. I spent $15k on a brand new 2018 Africa twin. I’ve never hated a bike so much. I gave that bike 3 years, and got rid of it.
I was considering getting a used one of these as a commuter. Just about everything you pointed out would have driven me nuts.
This guy is promoting Harley by picking apart another brand
7:00 "That faux carbon fiber" that you didn't like (was flaking and peeling) isn't factory. The guy put something over the console doors and headlight bracket (cheap vinyl wrap?) The teal and white was a '22 Voyager (not a vaquero). As far as the fairing... the headlamp, fake carbon fiber housing, the round lights in the vents, and the windscreen were all aftermarket additions by the owner. Thanks for the "objective" review. Sorry it didn't "resignate" with you. Then to title the video with "hate" in all caps.... wow. RUclips magic. lol LOL
I agree that the front-end fairing looks hideous. But again, I am the guy who hates the Road Glide fairing as well. Ugly in my view. I remember when the Road Glide came out in 1980 under the name Tour Glide. They made it until the mid-1990s and then stopped production. Then, a few years later, they relaunched it (much to my disappointment) and rebranded it Road Glide.
I really think your being harsh....if this was 2011. This most likely will be my next bike because gently used they are $10-$12k (even new they can be had for $15k) and at that price its hard to beat. But the bike launched in 2011 and hasn't changed one bit and that's it's achilleas heel for sure, I don't think they sell enough to justify it.. Most of the small things are easily fixed (Ivan's ecu flash will supposedly completely change the bike) and there is a small but focused aftermarket for these to soften some of the flaws. To be fair HD is one of the most stagnant brands out there, a better bike for sure, but just as stale for a whole lot more money (the 2024's are looking pretty good though).
Harley Davidson better in name only not quality. Harleys are notorious for breaking down and ruining road trips when riding in groups. It's always the Harley having mechanical issues.
@@RUclipshatesconservativespeech Reliability is getting a lot better and to me they do feel more premium than metric cruisers, but, not $10-$15k more premium.
@@ninji5226 Agreed.
Hegshot Rides, this is a horrible review, you do not know what you are talking about. I had a Kawasaki Vaquero and I loved everything about it. It is a very comfortable bike and you can ride it for ten hours without getting tired.
I am looking at 2012 for pretty cheap , so I like the looks, but it is good to know it's slow.
Loved mine. If anything....to sterile. performed perfectly competently. Great choice if your moving up to V-twins. SPECIALLY USED. I paid 8k when a used Road Glide was 16K. Kawi was SMooooth. Just no soul. I do now have a Road Glide. Gotta take steps in life.
Thanks for the info 🧐 ...
Even the Electra-glide standard 2010 model came in bleu in 2009 in USA and 2010 in Europe. Then the model disappeared for a while. Still ride the bleu Standard E-glide today !
Typical review from a Harley cult member. This bike is almost 10 thousand dollars cheaper has everything you need in a bagger. Except the crazy price and the road side problems.
Lame review..sorry...best budget bagger out there
I watched this and had many comments come to mind. I think the best thing to say is everybody is entitled to there own opinion. It is a normal Harley brand loyal guys review.