Looking at your footage, there are two things that stand out: 1. Unlearn leaving your thumb to "push" the wheel. That's an easy way to break your finger. At this point, you should be going hand over hand way sooner, or just go one handed for a moment. 2. You need a lot more left foot braking to induce more weight transfer and oversteer ruing cornering. You rely on the steering too much, instead of helping yourself with the brakes. Not only this will make you faster, you'll have to turn the wheel less, saving yourself the workout :D
Yo one of the biggest game changers I had using the games for practice was matching gear ratios. It made thinking about corners in the game so much closer to what it is IRL. The stock rally gear set is enough that you can chuck a car in and just bang gears until you're in the power. You'll get much more out of the game if it's set to the same ratios. For DR2.0 you can go up the side of the jump in the dirt fish map to beach yourself. Then floor it to see what the top speed of each gear is
If you know which model code of gearbox is in the real car, you can get the gear ratios and match the numbers. eg the TY752VB5CA that's in mine with its 4.444 final drive etc.
@geoffwnz DR2.0 and EA WRC don't use gear ratios on their sliders for some reason. Huge gripe about it for me. It's literally just some decimal numbers that don't correlate to anything. They'd have done better just displaying the top speed of each gear in then menu
@@Shinny1338 Lol those are the ratios, they're just inverted. Divide 1 by any of those ratios to get a number you are more familiar with. Final drive ratio of 0.235 is 1/0.235 = 4.255 : 1 gears. First gear ratio of 0.425 is 2.35 : 1. If you notice 5th gear is often 1.00, 1/1 = 1, aka 1:1 ratio. They're just written/stored this way to save all the division calls. Computers love to multiply and hate dividing.
@zdkama well that is super annoying haha. I know I did a search on it awhile back and all the threads I could find had no idea what the numbers were talking about. I wonder how close I got then. Will definitely take another look at them
Done a lot of simracing with Dirt Rally 2 and this summer i was lucky enough to actually drive a real deal Volkswagen Polo R5 and I was surprised of how familiar the real deal felt! The DR developers have done a great job and the experience is to some level quite transferable! So I very much approve of your approach to doing a real deal Rally 😎
@@RyansRoadToRally *redneck accent* yeah the distance between the wheel and my seat is about a quarter of a quartered off of a quartered off mini football field man
I just started RBR a couple weeks ago myself. Really looking forward to seeing what you think. It's.... made it a bit hard to go back to other rally games
BeamNG is another option. It has really good weight transfer physics. It's lacking in a few other areas, but the real jeopardy it brings is probably good for transferring to real-world. I mainly do RWD, so maybe it's different in BeamNG's 4WD cars. RBR is probably still more well rounded though. After spending so much time in RBR and BeamNG, Dirt 2 feels insanely easy. Those front wheels are basically glued to the road 😅
Great video! Love the idea that you are making every spec on the stim rig close to your own real rally car. The driving on the Dirt Rally 2 was amazing. Those pendulum turns were awesome. I want to suggest one thing, which is to take each stim rig driving experience as much as a real one. Since you are building muscle memory on the stim rig, you are also building your driving habits. Driving a used rally car with an actual person next to you probably has more things to consider than going full throttle on Dirt Rally 2. Things like watching the car's temperature and minding the RPM between gears, etc. Most importantly, in my opinion, is that the life of the co-driver is in your hands. I suggest aiming for safety and completeness first when driving on the stim rig. Maybe drive around 80% of your ability. Leave some room for mistakes. All the rally montages on RUclips have taught me that even a tiny mistake can be catastrophic. These are just my two cents. By no means am I trying to lecture you or anything. You are on a path that probably every rally fan dreams of. I truly enjoy watching your journey along the way. Wish you the best.
If you havent done the steeeing quickner yet, take a look at PRS quick steering racks out of poland! Bolt in quick steering racks for most Subarus, 12.5:1 ratio so about 2 rounds (720 lock - lock). I have one in my Bugeye streetcar and its SO transformative!
Got my first VR headset 2 weeks ago and it's still blowing my mind. Such a game-changer, being IN the car. And RBR is a different animal altogether. That'll be fun to watch.
Ou yeah. Doing sim rallying and others for a year or so mainly with VR only and now got 3 screens due well the heat over longer sessions with VR. Sadly none of the rally games support properly 3 screens compared to AC or etc.
I did the same thing when I built my sim rig, I measured out the wheel and pedal placement of my E30 and used the actual seat that was in my old E30. Love seeing this series come together, looking forward to seeing you on stage this year!
so glad I found this channel. really excited about this idea, and I hope you stay on it even if you don't hit your goal of less than a year. Really been enjoying it.
4:10 Dude no way I´m gonna skip, this is just awesome! There are things you might just not think about, but maybe could be quite important. And you just thought of them and put them in the video! Thanks!
im so glad someone finally made this video. Imprezas are my favorite rally cars and after watching your measurements i realized i had everything wrong. After a few hours i now have realistic setup and it makes such a difference thanks!!
Perfect video for me! Im 186CM are just looking into building my own simrig for just rally so i will definitely use this information. Also im suuuper thankful that you are using propper messurments and not thumbs and feet :D
Awesome skills! I never had you down for being a rally nut! Really interesting how rally is becoming more popular in the US after all these years. Friend of mine also owns an old rally car (one of the works Audi Quattros. I think it was once Hannu Mikola's car) but after 30 odd years I still don't think he's anywhere near getting it back to race condition! Expensive business!
Looking forward to seeing the real rally footage! A couple critiques on your sim driving if you don't mind taking them. I have been top of the leader boards on DR2 (Mostly RWD), and have had multiple trips to Dirtfish. Hooking your thumbs in the wheel like you do is a good way to brake them in a crash, you also lock yourself into a steering position where you cannot make modular adjustments. The hand that pushes the wheel has the most control if you need to counter, so you should be taking the other hand off and feeding hand to hand or hand over hand more. I prefer to shuffle until I need full steering lock, at which I switch to hand over hand. You should use your left foot on the brake more during corners to reduce how much you have to use your hands. 13:25 you have a big understeer moment where you are doing both issues I am pointing out, your thumb is hooked at max steering before having to take your hands off the wheel to add any more. Your left foot hovers over the brake, but you don't use it. If you had squeezed a little brake in while keeping the gas pedal pinned, the car would have more weight over the front wheels and neutralize that understeer. Also I am friends with the videographer that created the camera rig Sam Albert had on his Ferrari powered STI for OTR the previous season. I can put you in touch if you want to get any shots like that!
Love the videos. As a Dad getting into building my first track car, as well as getting into sim racing, the videos are inspiring to get out there and get the work done as well as get my rig setup to properly get comfortable
Hey there! If you'd want to add even more immersion, I recommend getting the Simagic QR Adapter and buying the same wheel you've go in the Subaru! Might add some more immersion. Excited to see where this journey will take you to!
Hey, I would recommend you finding a custom steering gear with shorter ratio, it's better option because with quickener there are less forces on the wheel and it's harder to feel the road. Very nice video 😀
Great video! I need to get back into rally sims more frequently. I may have to re-measure my sim. It did at one point match my race car, but that was before switching many peripherals, and I feel like its no longer anywhere close haha
awesome video! I’ve had the same idea to setup my rig to the exact measurements of my E30 track car. which I may also rallycross this upcoming season lol
You may want to next add haptics and Vr. I got 2 cheap 50mm resonance speakers for my pedals but you could get the simagic ones for your brake and gas. Set them up in simhub. I also recommended getting 2 tactile transducers for your seat, you will need an amp for those. That with the a meta quest for Vr its pretty darn convincing. The haptics is a great low cost add that ups realism a lot.
I Love your channel. Just a question though. How do you practice making pace notes? Shouldn't you also practice making it with a friend and practice with a real co driver? Just my thoughts. As a rally fan, this channel is one of the most entertaining to watch because you are living our dream 😅😅
Richard Burns Rally has a recce feature for making pace notes. And I guess any games that you can turn the co driver off, you can simply get a mate to read it instead
Great video, love the idea. I'm very curious to see your reaction, when you'll try the Impreza in RSFRBR...The experience is a whole league above Dirt rally.
Good call! I don’t know if I ever saw them use it though, so it doesn’t seem like it was the same kind of driver aid that it is today. Could be wrong though.
@ the driving style was different back then mostly due to more agressive lsd’s, and you also had to use the clutch as there was no diff disengagement. I assure you they used it a lot on tarmac rallys 😉
@@RyansRoadToRally Because of the handbrake's and camera's positioning, you wouldn't see it on the onboards, but it was used sometimes ruclips.net/video/yhTBLLnIu1k/видео.htmlsi=YdRUJSpXCw6DCAF6&t=77 maybe not the group a one but an early wrc impreza and you can see Colin yank it for the hairpin
I did very similar measurements with my 95 Mitsubishi FTO for tracking after I imported it to the USA. Now after 2 years I'm basically one with the car 😅
@RyansRoadToRally Nice i love your vids! Im excited! Because of you i will buy almost the same exact rig as yours :) I think this channel has huge potential!
Clutching in through heavy braking zones for slow corners is a habit you should try to get out of Using your gears takes strain off your brakes and over long stages could mean the difference between finishing with working brakes or not Practice skipping gears on downshifts to save time and effort as well as help focus more on brake pressure Good to see you're already left foot braking, that took me ages to actually start doing
Wow!! Found your channel today for the first time and watched all your videos start to finish!! What an awesome journey!! Hope you are getting motion added to the rig BUT... also stoked if its the Qubic System QS-BT1 - Dual Channel, Direct Drive Seat Belt Tensioner 😂 Im lucky enough to run VR with a D-Box motion rig and few weeks ago, ordered the belt tensioner. Can't wait. My main mission for a number of years now has been Simersion and feel so lucky to be alive with the technology we have available. Cant wait for your next step in your journey. I do have one question please. Are you able to share your Dirt 2.0 in game wheel ffb setting please? Be keen to see how youve dialed that in. Good luck 👍🏻
Wow! Wish I had the space for a setup like that. I really love the way you film the POV, it makes it feel so much more real than any other simracing videos I have seen. Cheers from Finland!
Currently on ps5pro with psvr2. Got me wanting to bust out the laptop and go through the pains of psvr2 on pc and setting up the logitech wheel to play rbr
Let’s go!!!! You have to make some sacrifices for FOV, some games lack the configs but FOV is all a personal preference! Looks really good Ryan! Very proud of you taking it to the next level.
I also tried this and imo not worth it, although it's super fun and immersive. But it's for training in this case. I think the high steering column angle (20+ degrees) works assuming you are using stock seats and are sat up high, whereas a bucket seat you are sitting much lower, with the steering column angle straining your wrists more since the designers didn't think you'd be sitting that low. Also having the seat fairly high compared to the floor (or pedal plate) is fine with softer brake setups, but kinda kills your back if you have a stiff pedal. I've ended up looking at newer WRC cars for reference and it's a lot flatter and closer to your old setup, more comfortable to drive in as well. So I guess the choice is realism (for training) that's constrained by a modified 90s passenger sedan vs modern ergonomics. You'll find the newer Subaru WR cars (97 onwards) also vary in seating positions quite a bit
If you want to add even more realistic feel. Loom for the mvh bash pro h shifter. Help me to change my way of shifting. The only shifter with active lockout
@@RyansRoadToRallyyep if the point is training to drive a real car you have to drive RBR. So many of the things you do driving in DR2.0 if done in a real car will not work and you’ll wind up wrapped around a tree.
Thank you for this video, extremely helpful for someone as me struggling with sim rig ergonomics even without using a bucket seat and using a seat from a real car! Just wondering which app did you use to measure the angles? Also, do you mind sharing all the measurements? some that I really struggle with is the pedals height I think because I don't have them inverted like a real car
I don't know much ab sim racing so perhaps this is an obvious thing - but in an actual car you aren't sat in the centre; you're sat to the left or right. Your setup seems to mimic this by shifting the viewport across your monitors, but then you end up with the dash bent across the centre and right monitor (for LHD). Is it not possible to mount the monitors to the right of the chair/ the chair to the left of the monitors so you are actually sat in that position? and then the viewport wouldn't be so warped? Anyway, I love the channel, and good luck with everything!
Great video as always! Hey man, did you delete any of your older videos about the sim racing to real rally goal? I think there were some videos just with your Logitech setup and you upgrading and reviewing stuff upgrade by upgrade, that I can't find anymore. Cheers! Edit: Or am I misremembering?
Thanks! At the beginning, I spread out the content across a couple of my channels. Search for Run The Joules and you’ll find the Logitech upgrade video 👍
Very interesting video, especially for someone like me who has never been in a rally / sports car and doesnt have a reference for my sim rig. I was wondering if you could measure the angle of the pedal faces? As in the part of the pedal that your feet touch. I've inverted my pedals recently and would be interesting to compare. Thanks.
Is Dirt Rally 2 that close to real life so you can actually train on it? Wonder about physics of those rally games since I imagine it is quite more difficult to simulate it than GT3 racing for example.
Ryan, omg, there is no way I am going to be able to overtake you at LD Community racing after watching this. One question: Looked like you always had brake pressure full on in braking zones, is that the case? I personally don't understand yet how brake effectively in DR2 :) (Mope =Sieras from LD community)
Would you share your FOV and FFB settings in the game? (FOV with your actual distance to screen). I struggle to find a "real" feel on the rally games compared to iracing or acc.
thanks for measuring it all! i will try this when i rebuild my rig.. but if you want a realistic experience you should really try beamng, the physics of the car is light years ahead of all others...
7:58 People keep claiming that you need at least 5Nm of torque on their wheels.. while the majority of cars have powersteering.. even high performance ones...
@@klausklavikus3836 Well, when I was building my setup, I had a small budget, so I had to go for a Hp vr 1000-100, which is a Window Mixed Reality headset. I got it for like 70 euros used and it's serving me great. I had to go for a low end also because I had only a laptop with a 3060, so not that much raw power. Now I am upgrading my computer to a good desktop and I'll prob be upgrading. If you have the budget and the power I would suggest you don't buy a WMR as they are EOL and the screen isn't very good (onli 1440^2 per eye and the ips is only 90hz). I don't have experience with anything else, but when I'll upgrade I'll prob go with a quest 2. The screen is more then enough and I'll take the longer battery life and lower price tag compared to the new 3s
Looking at your footage, there are two things that stand out:
1. Unlearn leaving your thumb to "push" the wheel. That's an easy way to break your finger. At this point, you should be going hand over hand way sooner, or just go one handed for a moment.
2. You need a lot more left foot braking to induce more weight transfer and oversteer ruing cornering. You rely on the steering too much, instead of helping yourself with the brakes. Not only this will make you faster, you'll have to turn the wheel less, saving yourself the workout :D
Yo one of the biggest game changers I had using the games for practice was matching gear ratios. It made thinking about corners in the game so much closer to what it is IRL. The stock rally gear set is enough that you can chuck a car in and just bang gears until you're in the power. You'll get much more out of the game if it's set to the same ratios. For DR2.0 you can go up the side of the jump in the dirt fish map to beach yourself. Then floor it to see what the top speed of each gear is
Oooo that’s a great call. Thanks!
If you know which model code of gearbox is in the real car, you can get the gear ratios and match the numbers. eg the TY752VB5CA that's in mine with its 4.444 final drive etc.
@geoffwnz DR2.0 and EA WRC don't use gear ratios on their sliders for some reason. Huge gripe about it for me. It's literally just some decimal numbers that don't correlate to anything. They'd have done better just displaying the top speed of each gear in then menu
@@Shinny1338 Lol those are the ratios, they're just inverted. Divide 1 by any of those ratios to get a number you are more familiar with. Final drive ratio of 0.235 is 1/0.235 = 4.255 : 1 gears. First gear ratio of 0.425 is 2.35 : 1.
If you notice 5th gear is often 1.00, 1/1 = 1, aka 1:1 ratio. They're just written/stored this way to save all the division calls. Computers love to multiply and hate dividing.
@zdkama well that is super annoying haha. I know I did a search on it awhile back and all the threads I could find had no idea what the numbers were talking about. I wonder how close I got then. Will definitely take another look at them
Done a lot of simracing with Dirt Rally 2 and this summer i was lucky enough to actually drive a real deal Volkswagen Polo R5 and I was surprised of how familiar the real deal felt! The DR developers have done a great job and the experience is to some level quite transferable! So I very much approve of your approach to doing a real deal Rally 😎
I'm glad you are canadian and do not measure in freedom units
Haha I just couldn’t imagine having to say measurements like “fifteen sixteenths” 😂
You have no idea how I can relate :D Was about to write same :)
"Freedom Units"
Love this 😂
I agree with you, I'm American and sometimes I get tired of buying groceries with my burger tokens
@@RyansRoadToRally *redneck accent* yeah the distance between the wheel and my seat is about a quarter of a quartered off of a quartered off mini football field man
I just started RBR a couple weeks ago myself. Really looking forward to seeing what you think.
It's.... made it a bit hard to go back to other rally games
Rbr is the best. It beats everything.
I thought I was a god in dirt rally and rbr humbled me real quick
BeamNG is another option. It has really good weight transfer physics. It's lacking in a few other areas, but the real jeopardy it brings is probably good for transferring to real-world. I mainly do RWD, so maybe it's different in BeamNG's 4WD cars.
RBR is probably still more well rounded though. After spending so much time in RBR and BeamNG, Dirt 2 feels insanely easy. Those front wheels are basically glued to the road 😅
Great video! Love the idea that you are making every spec on the stim rig close to your own real rally car. The driving on the Dirt Rally 2 was amazing. Those pendulum turns were awesome. I want to suggest one thing, which is to take each stim rig driving experience as much as a real one. Since you are building muscle memory on the stim rig, you are also building your driving habits. Driving a used rally car with an actual person next to you probably has more things to consider than going full throttle on Dirt Rally 2. Things like watching the car's temperature and minding the RPM between gears, etc. Most importantly, in my opinion, is that the life of the co-driver is in your hands. I suggest aiming for safety and completeness first when driving on the stim rig. Maybe drive around 80% of your ability. Leave some room for mistakes. All the rally montages on RUclips have taught me that even a tiny mistake can be catastrophic.
These are just my two cents. By no means am I trying to lecture you or anything. You are on a path that probably every rally fan dreams of. I truly enjoy watching your journey along the way. Wish you the best.
If you havent done the steeeing quickner yet, take a look at PRS quick steering racks out of poland!
Bolt in quick steering racks for most Subarus, 12.5:1 ratio so about 2 rounds (720 lock - lock).
I have one in my Bugeye streetcar and its SO transformative!
Got my first VR headset 2 weeks ago and it's still blowing my mind. Such a game-changer, being IN the car. And RBR is a different animal altogether. That'll be fun to watch.
Ou yeah. Doing sim rallying and others for a year or so mainly with VR only and now got 3 screens due well the heat over longer sessions with VR.
Sadly none of the rally games support properly 3 screens compared to AC or etc.
I did the same thing when I built my sim rig, I measured out the wheel and pedal placement of my E30 and used the actual seat that was in my old E30.
Love seeing this series come together, looking forward to seeing you on stage this year!
so glad I found this channel. really excited about this idea, and I hope you stay on it even if you don't hit your goal of less than a year. Really been enjoying it.
Heck yeah, good vid🚀
One thing I love about VR is that the FOV is already taken care of for you. You just need to position the in-game view correctly and thats it.
4:10 Dude no way I´m gonna skip, this is just awesome! There are things you might just not think about, but maybe could be quite important. And you just thought of them and put them in the video! Thanks!
Killer as always! Solid work!
im so glad someone finally made this video. Imprezas are my favorite rally cars and after watching your measurements i realized i had everything wrong. After a few hours i now have realistic setup and it makes such a difference thanks!!
Rooting for you now! You got the right setup and I’m confident you’ll do great
Perfect video for me! Im 186CM are just looking into building my own simrig for just rally so i will definitely use this information. Also im suuuper thankful that you are using propper messurments and not thumbs and feet :D
God, i love these videos! super down to earth, the car is dope, and your seem genuinely knowledgable and passionate. Keep it up!
Excited for this series! Superb production quality. Cant wait to see you testing RBR! :)
Awesome skills! I never had you down for being a rally nut! Really interesting how rally is becoming more popular in the US after all these years. Friend of mine also owns an old rally car (one of the works Audi Quattros. I think it was once Hannu Mikola's car) but after 30 odd years I still don't think he's anywhere near getting it back to race condition! Expensive business!
If your friend ever wants to pass that Audi along to a life-long Audi nerd… who will reprep it/send it on rally stages again, you know who to call :)
Gg and good luck. Looking forward for those RBR vids
Looking forward to seeing the real rally footage! A couple critiques on your sim driving if you don't mind taking them. I have been top of the leader boards on DR2 (Mostly RWD), and have had multiple trips to Dirtfish.
Hooking your thumbs in the wheel like you do is a good way to brake them in a crash, you also lock yourself into a steering position where you cannot make modular adjustments. The hand that pushes the wheel has the most control if you need to counter, so you should be taking the other hand off and feeding hand to hand or hand over hand more. I prefer to shuffle until I need full steering lock, at which I switch to hand over hand.
You should use your left foot on the brake more during corners to reduce how much you have to use your hands. 13:25 you have a big understeer moment where you are doing both issues I am pointing out, your thumb is hooked at max steering before having to take your hands off the wheel to add any more. Your left foot hovers over the brake, but you don't use it. If you had squeezed a little brake in while keeping the gas pedal pinned, the car would have more weight over the front wheels and neutralize that understeer.
Also I am friends with the videographer that created the camera rig Sam Albert had on his Ferrari powered STI for OTR the previous season. I can put you in touch if you want to get any shots like that!
Where can i learn more about proper hand techniques for rally?
Love the videos. As a Dad getting into building my first track car, as well as getting into sim racing, the videos are inspiring to get out there and get the work done as well as get my rig setup to properly get comfortable
Nice driving, Ryan! Great video man. Very informative.
Hey there! If you'd want to add even more immersion, I recommend getting the Simagic QR Adapter and buying the same wheel you've go in the Subaru!
Might add some more immersion.
Excited to see where this journey will take you to!
can't wait for the motion rig
Hey, I would recommend you finding a custom steering gear with shorter ratio, it's better option because with quickener there are less forces on the wheel and it's harder to feel the road.
Very nice video 😀
Really loving this series. Keep up the good work 👍👍 also thanks for sharing the measurements
oh my god i can't WAIT to see the next video
I think that was one hell of a run. Very cool mods. 😎
Great series! I'm hoping to build a stage rally car starting next year
Great stuff! Keep the dream rolling! Hopefully your first event goes well!
Great video! I need to get back into rally sims more frequently. I may have to re-measure my sim. It did at one point match my race car, but that was before switching many peripherals, and I feel like its no longer anywhere close haha
Loving the videos! Great content, really cool! Making me wanna start Sim Rallying!
Awesome video! I'm new to the hobby and was looking for ways to make my rig feel more authentic, super informative!
This is awesome! Can’t wait to see you try RBR
awesome video! I’ve had the same idea to setup my rig to the exact measurements of my E30 track car. which I may also rallycross this upcoming season lol
Great Stuff Great Stuff. I Love RBR and I will take some measures from you in consideration for my Rig :D Keep going
Subscribed for more learning about how you made that FOV look so damn good!!!
You may want to next add haptics and Vr. I got 2 cheap 50mm resonance speakers for my pedals but you could get the simagic ones for your brake and gas. Set them up in simhub. I also recommended getting 2 tactile transducers for your seat, you will need an amp for those. That with the a meta quest for Vr its pretty darn convincing. The haptics is a great low cost add that ups realism a lot.
Thanks for posting this, I also have a GC but two door for time attack and I’ve been trying to do the same thing for my sim rig 🤣
Once you get RBR set up, I would love to see your settings both ingame and for the wheel. Good luck!
cant wait for next video, so excited
Love to see your racing. So good
I Love your channel. Just a question though. How do you practice making pace notes? Shouldn't you also practice making it with a friend and practice with a real co driver? Just my thoughts.
As a rally fan, this channel is one of the most entertaining to watch because you are living our dream 😅😅
Richard Burns Rally has a recce feature for making pace notes. And I guess any games that you can turn the co driver off, you can simply get a mate to read it instead
Great series thank you so much!
i see you added the sparco circuit 2 into the driver seat. looks fantastic!!!
Cant wait for you to play RBR!.
U need 2:1 steering quickener if you got 1080 brooo
The test footage was insane
In regards to the steering being very long, you could try to find a quick racl out of a later model sti as they are much faster racks lock to lock
Great video, love the idea. I'm very curious to see your reaction, when you'll try the Impreza in RSFRBR...The experience is a whole league above Dirt rally.
Ey! I just saw your setup video and i was going to leave this coment over there. You should buy a pair of butquickers to put realism to the next level
i love dirt 2. it legit gives you an arm workout XD
9:35 The group A impreza had a hydraulic handbrake, it just was in a horizontal position instead of vertical so it's kinda hidden
it also had a dog box which does not require you to use the clutch to change gear
Good call! I don’t know if I ever saw them use it though, so it doesn’t seem like it was the same kind of driver aid that it is today. Could be wrong though.
@ the driving style was different back then mostly due to more agressive lsd’s, and you also had to use the clutch as there was no diff disengagement. I assure you they used it a lot on tarmac rallys 😉
@@RyansRoadToRally Because of the handbrake's and camera's positioning, you wouldn't see it on the onboards, but it was used sometimes
ruclips.net/video/yhTBLLnIu1k/видео.htmlsi=YdRUJSpXCw6DCAF6&t=77 maybe not the group a one but an early wrc impreza and you can see Colin yank it for the hairpin
Make sure you update RBR with the latest Christmas update!
I did very similar measurements with my 95 Mitsubishi FTO for tracking after I imported it to the USA. Now after 2 years I'm basically one with the car 😅
Im waiting for your next video... we need more on this channel :D
Just putting the finishing touches on it!
@RyansRoadToRally Nice i love your vids! Im excited! Because of you i will buy almost the same exact rig as yours :) I think this channel has huge potential!
Clutching in through heavy braking zones for slow corners is a habit you should try to get out of
Using your gears takes strain off your brakes and over long stages could mean the difference between finishing with working brakes or not
Practice skipping gears on downshifts to save time and effort as well as help focus more on brake pressure
Good to see you're already left foot braking, that took me ages to actually start doing
Oh, I saw Some “Network Q Rac rally championship” cut scenes 🤣🤣🤣
Wow!! Found your channel today for the first time and watched all your videos start to finish!! What an awesome journey!! Hope you are getting motion added to the rig BUT... also stoked if its the Qubic System QS-BT1 - Dual Channel, Direct Drive Seat Belt Tensioner 😂
Im lucky enough to run VR with a D-Box motion rig and few weeks ago, ordered the belt tensioner. Can't wait. My main mission for a number of years now has been Simersion and feel so lucky to be alive with the technology we have available.
Cant wait for your next step in your journey.
I do have one question please. Are you able to share your Dirt 2.0 in game wheel ffb setting please? Be keen to see how youve dialed that in.
Good luck 👍🏻
There is one thing i noticed from the foot cam , is you never once did left foot braking to stabilize the car ?
great video and fun setup.
Wow! Wish I had the space for a setup like that. I really love the way you film the POV, it makes it feel so much more real than any other simracing videos I have seen. Cheers from Finland!
Currently on ps5pro with psvr2. Got me wanting to bust out the laptop and go through the pains of psvr2 on pc and setting up the logitech wheel to play rbr
Great stuff!! need more videos keep going🙌🙌
Let’s go!!!! You have to make some sacrifices for FOV, some games lack the configs but FOV is all a personal preference!
Looks really good Ryan! Very proud of you taking it to the next level.
Yeah, after spending more time on rbr. I can no longer go back to dirt and wrc. Hope you will like it as much as me😅
Would be nice if the crc had a stop in Saskatchewan but we don’t have the most exciting road system haha
If you plan to use a 1.5x steering quickner you should bump up the force feedback by 1.5x
I also tried this and imo not worth it, although it's super fun and immersive. But it's for training in this case.
I think the high steering column angle (20+ degrees) works assuming you are using stock seats and are sat up high, whereas a bucket seat you are sitting much lower, with the steering column angle straining your wrists more since the designers didn't think you'd be sitting that low. Also having the seat fairly high compared to the floor (or pedal plate) is fine with softer brake setups, but kinda kills your back if you have a stiff pedal.
I've ended up looking at newer WRC cars for reference and it's a lot flatter and closer to your old setup, more comfortable to drive in as well. So I guess the choice is realism (for training) that's constrained by a modified 90s passenger sedan vs modern ergonomics. You'll find the newer Subaru WR cars (97 onwards) also vary in seating positions quite a bit
Where did you find measurements for the newer WRC cars? I was hoping to do the same in my setup
If you want to add even more realistic feel. Loom for the mvh bash pro h shifter. Help me to change my way of shifting. The only shifter with active lockout
can't wait to see you on richard burns
I have an important question: does DiRT Rally 2.0 have too much grip on dry gravel compared to real life?
Vr is actually insane for rally
I was planning on buying an impreza dash swap and using that to build the rig, have 2 of them, a 96 and a 99 impreza haha
Would love to see you drive the sim in richard burns rally
you should try richard burn rally, best simulator ever
Planning on it!
@ you won’t regret it, kudos to you for all you are doing, you are living my dream man ahahahahha🔥✌️
@@RyansRoadToRallyyep if the point is training to drive a real car you have to drive RBR. So many of the things you do driving in DR2.0 if done in a real car will not work and you’ll wind up wrapped around a tree.
Source?
@@kaebogtimater go watch world record runs on dirt rally 2.0, if you drive normally it’s okay, but after a certain speed it becomes arcade
Now install the RBR a feel it the power and real physic
Thank you for this video, extremely helpful for someone as me struggling with sim rig ergonomics even without using a bucket seat and using a seat from a real car!
Just wondering which app did you use to measure the angles?
Also, do you mind sharing all the measurements? some that I really struggle with is the pedals height I think because I don't have them inverted like a real car
I don't know much ab sim racing so perhaps this is an obvious thing - but in an actual car you aren't sat in the centre; you're sat to the left or right. Your setup seems to mimic this by shifting the viewport across your monitors, but then you end up with the dash bent across the centre and right monitor (for LHD). Is it not possible to mount the monitors to the right of the chair/ the chair to the left of the monitors so you are actually sat in that position? and then the viewport wouldn't be so warped?
Anyway, I love the channel, and good luck with everything!
Hi man. Do a ffb settings video please!
Great video as always! Hey man, did you delete any of your older videos about the sim racing to real rally goal? I think there were some videos just with your Logitech setup and you upgrading and reviewing stuff upgrade by upgrade, that I can't find anymore. Cheers!
Edit: Or am I misremembering?
Thanks! At the beginning, I spread out the content across a couple of my channels. Search for Run The Joules and you’ll find the Logitech upgrade video 👍
Very interesting video, especially for someone like me who has never been in a rally / sports car and doesnt have a reference for my sim rig. I was wondering if you could measure the angle of the pedal faces? As in the part of the pedal that your feet touch. I've inverted my pedals recently and would be interesting to compare. Thanks.
How do you have your pedal elastomers set up?
They have a fair amount of travel and are softer than most peoples GT-setups. I can’t recall my exact stack though.
You are still playing dirt rally 2.0???
Play wrc23 or wrc24(its not completed but after 2 or 3 months it will)
Your P1000 pedals look new, do you have any load cell drift? Check a video about it. I wanted to get P1000 but I need to see if they work properly
Is Dirt Rally 2 that close to real life so you can actually train on it? Wonder about physics of those rally games since I imagine it is quite more difficult to simulate it than GT3 racing for example.
Can you measure how much the pedals travel? Thk
I wish I can drive like you in this game LOL
I recomend you to try that games in VR
14:45 ARE YOU GETTING MOTION ????
Probably yes.
PLAY RBR
+1 for this, with the RallySimFans Hungarian mod and a decent co-driver mod
You should try iracing
Ryan, omg, there is no way I am going to be able to overtake you at LD Community racing after watching this.
One question: Looked like you always had brake pressure full on in braking zones, is that the case? I personally don't understand yet how brake effectively in DR2 :)
(Mope =Sieras from LD community)
Would you share your FOV and FFB settings in the game? (FOV with your actual distance to screen). I struggle to find a "real" feel on the rally games compared to iracing or acc.
Does a 2015+ STI steering rack fit in those? They are a lot quicker / snappier.
thanks for measuring it all! i will try this when i rebuild my rig.. but if you want a realistic experience you should really try beamng, the physics of the car is light years ahead of all others...
7:58 People keep claiming that you need at least 5Nm of torque on their wheels.. while the majority of cars have powersteering.. even high performance ones...
Exactly, people can be wrong, just like they can be wrong about RBR
How did you removed that black strip in the places where monitors touch each other?
vr incoming? I use one for rbr and it feels like I am literally there, even if my rig isn't anything crazy (I'm still very soddisfied by it)
Which headset your are using ? i wanna buy some next year thats why im asking :)
@@klausklavikus3836 Well, when I was building my setup, I had a small budget, so I had to go for a Hp vr 1000-100, which is a Window Mixed Reality headset. I got it for like 70 euros used and it's serving me great. I had to go for a low end also because I had only a laptop with a 3060, so not that much raw power. Now I am upgrading my computer to a good desktop and I'll prob be upgrading. If you have the budget and the power I would suggest you don't buy a WMR as they are EOL and the screen isn't very good (onli 1440^2 per eye and the ips is only 90hz). I don't have experience with anything else, but when I'll upgrade I'll prob go with a quest 2. The screen is more then enough and I'll take the longer battery life and lower price tag compared to the new 3s