My take is that James was indeed acting like a predator. then he was called out, panicked and stopped for a while. Then he was exonerated in peoples minds so he went back to his predatory behavior
My sister and I also sound very similar and I never got it when my mom used to say she couldn’t tell us apart on the phone, but after the first time I saw a video of Trish & her sister, I was like, “Oh!” 😂
@@eckillame sister and my mum sound exactly alike and honestly it’s scary i’ve been talking to my “mum” from my room and i walk out and it’s my sister lol
RIGHT?? I have to keep looking to make sure its her and not Trish talking 😂 her sister kinda favors nikki tutorials in terms of facial features, i almost thought it was her at first.
“i do think the way she tells this story is completely fabricated. i really want to watch monsters inc tonight” the WHIPLASH HELP I CANT CONNECT THE DOTS HOW DID WE GET TO MONSTERS INC!!
Tati screwed up by making a fuss over gummy bears. Then screwed up by not standing on what she said because everything she said about James at the time was a huge red flag. If she did she could have made her I told you so video and had won. The only problem was James age and the damn gummy bear
This. As much as she wants to claim it wasn’t about the sugar bear gummies, it was. She wouldnt have mad the video at all if that didn’t happen even with all the other issues she was having with him. She likely would have just distanced herself over time. It was really all about the gummies. I dont even like James at all but he at least only promoted the sleep gummies and not the hair line that is her actual competitor so he did seem like he was trying to be mindful of what aspect of that brand he was promoting since she doesn’t have a sleep line. She was just as immature for making it all about a brand deal when that’s literally their job as influencers and only caring about his sexual harassment issues AFTER all that
THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!!!!! Tati was so weird and immature for making a big deal about the gummy brand when it was mostly owned by James and how she was rubbing her ass on him when was 19 and she was already in her late 30s she’s still a creep and she is no better nor innocent and she needs to get off of the internet 😒
The problem I had was her blaming Shane and Jeffree and trying take herself out the situation, because who was getting Mass canceled Shane and Jeffree. Who benefitted from shifting the blame Tati. While I can see Jeffree spearheading it, Shane going alone with it for his damn docuseries. However Tati is a grown ass woman and she made the video, had a hand in editing it and posted it, said all these serious allegation about the person she was mentoring without proper investigations. Everyone had a hand in that circus including James for proving everyone involved right in the end.
Agreed. As much as Shane messed up in his own career with his inappropriate jokes (and there were so many) and getting involved with dumb sh**, I do feel like he was just the scapegoat in this situation, imo, even Jeffree too, I feel like they were scapegoats here... (however, I don't like how either of them accidentally or blatantly used Eugenia Cooney the way they did or continue to:/ God, I hope she can get help, or at the very least find peace and break free from her situation)
My take on this situation is that Trisha is like the last person who should call Tati out like wasn’t she having a transactional ‘friendship’ with jojo siwa and like other popular minors online. Yet on her defense I think her point stands like she was spitting facts on her video.
Riiiight. When she was going on about Tati being 37 and James being 17, like babe you were friends with a 14 at some point too. Even if it was ‘only on camera’. She would film with Jojo alone.
I think there's a difference between working with a child star wether that's an yt/ig/tiktok or Hollywood child star, or befriending them & inviting them to parties & building a close intimate relationship. Like winona ryder worked with millie Bobby Brown, which is fine, but Drake started a weird, close, intimate friendship, which isn't fine.
@@Lana4life19it’s the age where you’re supposed to be fully mature. Like, after 30 or so, it’s time to start acting your age. No one’s saying it’s old, but it’s too old to be involved in this shit.
idk in my personal opinion i just can't stand that tati continues to say that she had no idea bye sister would blow up like she wasn't the biggest beauty community influencer and james charles was even bigger OUTSIDE of that community. like it's james charles why WOULDNT that have blown up?? i can extend empathy but i just don't feel sorry. not to mention the casual befriending of two racists. one of which has well documented inappropriate encounters with children. i refuse to believe someone of her stature had no idea. like i just can't bring myself to care
Based on how jefree has used sexual assualt as balck mail vefore i do genuinely bwlieve he was feeding tati all that information, i think she went back on her word because when it came out the boy at the restaurant actually was messaging james she thought that everything was a lie
Everytime Adam’s name is mentioned in drama he’s covering I feel like the fourth wall is being broken and my brain like goes into shock a little bit for a second. 😂😂😂
unfortunately gummy vitamins are basically the worst form of vitamins bc they’re majority gelatine and sugar and very little actual vitamin content. but don’t let that stop your fun, the placebo effect is real 😂
I just want to remind anyone who might have forgotten, as i often do (particularly when I'm the one I'm bullying)- You can do a bad thing and still be a good person. You can do a series of bad things and always be better than the worst thing you've done. You are not your worst moments. Nobody else is either.
I agree, however, if you continue to do the worst things or support them and don't change, then you turn into said thing, but if you change, genuinely, then I think you can be given another shot (by societies standards, I am no judge and I am not God, so I am not saying how people should live or if we should have mercy or not)
Hey Adam, I have BPD and suffer from dissociation, the longest dissociation I had was 4 months long, but most of the time it's only a few hours at a time, at most a day, everyone is different, Trish also has BPD and suffers from dissociation, she did in the past as well A lot of people dissociate, but people with BPD have a much higher chance and frequency of doing it, it's our bodies response to stress/trauma, etc I don't think you should side eye it with Trish, she had a *lot* going on at the time and legit almost passed away and ended up in the hospital and psych ward and went through so so so much, I 100% believe she's either forgotten a lot or her mind is protecting her and took it away from her
@@Achilles7117 Hey, I appreciate that 🙏🏻 I've been through so much in my life, I hit rock bottom time and time again, each time thinking it couldn't get any worse (I was wrong) medication and therapy didn't help me all that much, I had to initially help myself to some degree, even then it wasn't working, eventually things got so bad, after countless attempts on my life and wanting not to hurt my family, but needing an escape from the pain, I turned to God and since late last year, I've still been battling a lot, but I keep giving it to God to deal with, He's helping me through this and I couldn't do it without Him ♡ My battle has been long and painful, but I turned to Jesus and I have hope now, for the future and I feel peace more often 🙏🏻 legit wouldn't be here without Jesus Thankyou again for your comment
this is the clearest way ive seen anyone explain what its like to have BPD thats not a 30+ min educational video. thank you for providing some clarity there, and im hoping youre doing ok❤
As an adult she should have confronted James herself, with his mom as well, let him know that she was cutting ties due to xyz… none of this should have been made into a video. She was too grown for that, James was wrong but he was a kid and needed to be confronted and spoken to
Exactly! James’ mum was at the infamous birthday dinner, which means that Tati had the means to obtain her contact details and raise any concerns she had about James with her. In private. Like a grownup. If she was really that concerned
I’m sorry but Trisha is the last person who can call out Tati on this, yes Tati knew James was a weirdo and only started caring once he did something that hurt her feelings, but TRISHA didn’t care or comment on the Colleen situation until it directly involved her so like….pick and choose ur battles girl
I’m sorry but how unproductive is it to gate keep who can call out who? Just because someone has done something before and it could make them sound hypocritical, doesn’t mean that they can’t disagree now.
@dd4850…I am. Can people not learn and grow? Also, Tati willingly sat on knowing weird things about James until she had a personal issue with him over gummy bears. I’m not saying Trisha didn’t know about Colleen, and I’m not defending her or saying that she shouldn’t have spoken up about the situation sooner. What I am saying is that she should still be able to talk about the Tati situation.
Trisha was actively involved in this which is why she talked about it. As for Colleen Trisha thought she could take colleen at her word and she lied to her face
At least Trisha didn't blame other people for all of her actions and act like she was a victim who had no control. Tati only apologized when James proved she was lying and she had no choice but to respond. Not much better than Trisha responding when she found out Colleen was lying, but at least she was upfront on saying she foolishly believed her.
I disagree with the people saying she was manipulated. She is a grown woman that didn't have to make the video. She made the video out of spite not because it was the right thing to do and we know this because she threw Jeffree and Shane under the bus as soon as things weren't going her way. When this is the type of situation if James was actually doing what she was accusing him of it doesn't matter if it was going her way or not she should have stood 10 times down or owned up to be wrong instead of playing victim. However I do think that Jeffree and Shane enabled her 100%. I think that Jeffrey and Shane saw an opportunity to add fuel to the flames.
Exactly. I am about to make my own comment, but it’s usually whenever a woman is to blame that everyone starts to look elsewhere and it’s a just another one of those societal double standards. Woman and accountability seldom mix.
LMFAOOOOOO your child just reciting the “and you DID it at my birthday dinner” in front of their history class like when I had to recite a piece from a Shakespeare play in language arts LMFAOOOO
The Tati, Shane and Jeffree of it all just muddies the water. Two things can be true. Tati observed alarming behavior at her birthday dinner all while having two birdies in her ears feeding little tidbits of fear-affirming gossip. Do I believe Tati didn’t think it would blow up? Yes. Do I believe she found James’ behavior worrisome? Yes. Do I believe Shane and Jefferee used Tati for their own agenda and Tati thought it would end in her favor? Yes.
What I never understood/liked about Dramaggedon is [first] that everyone brings up Tati's age - like you can be manipulated at any age and [second] that the one woman is the one who took the brunt of everything while the other three men, all who have serious allegations about them, have gotten barely any backlash from it...
I feel like everyone has forgotten the fact that Jeffree Star was dangling audio clip of James' alleged victim in front of EVERYONE. He probably showed it to Tati and she probably wanted to distance herself from James. She probably thought that the audience will turn on her but everyone sided with her and it blew up. One piece of lore that I haven't seen anyone mentioning, and I remember it because I was seated during Dramaggedon 2, is that James Charles attended the Met Gala and received backlash that resulted in his Socialblade turning red BEFORE Bye Sister. When that video was released, the public ALREADY didn't like James Charles and quickly jumped on Tati's side. And I think Jeffree and Shane planning that would be so possible, pushing Tati to do it when James is not in good graces. I can see Tati being disappointed in James and Jeffree sliding in DMs.
Tati was almost 40. You cannot convince me this woman did not think about the consequences. And the fact that she took very little accountability? What is with RUclipsrs/influencers and the power trips they go on?
THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!!!!! Tati was so weird and immature for making a big deal about the gummy brand when it was mostly owned by James and how she was rubbing her ass on him when was 19 and she was already in her late 30s she’s still a creep and she is no better nor innocent and she needs to get off of the internet 😒
Tati didn't care about James being a pred. She cared that he promoted a competitor. Point blank period. She just used whatever dirty laundry she had on him to take him down and pretend to care to destroy his career for daring to cross her. It's not cute, and ruined Tatis career for a reason. She can try to rewrite history today but people will always remember.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!!!!! Tati was so weird and immature for making a big deal about the gummy brand when it was mostly owned by James and how she was rubbing her ass on him when was 19 and she was already in her late 30s she’s still a creep and she is no better nor innocent and she needs to get off of the internet 😒
If James hadnt promoted a rival gummy company Tati would not have made the video. Thats all that needs to be said so regardless of who whispered in her ear, you made it about your friend who was 17 at the time. Too many people forgive her because James became a creep after he became of age which was not the case when the video was made.
I agree. And if I've been friends with someone for years to the point of seeing each other as family, and someone I've known for two weeks is spreading rumors about them to me, I'm not gonna believe the stranger. I'm gonna go back to my friend and tell them who's been saying what behind their back. The fact that she was so quick to make a video about James shows exactly the type of 'friend' she is too ppl.
i'm gunna b real, i'm 29 and i briefly made friends with a 23 yr old i work with, thinking "hey we're all adults here, why couldn't we be friends?" but after a few weeks of hanging on breaks i realized how immature she was. and also a very bad friend bc she's in a very selfish time of her life. ofc this can be a one-off example, but i have sworn off younger friends completely. i have no idea why anyone would want to hang with someone so significantly younger. their youth and immaturity is ALWAYSSS obvious.
I was in a similar situation a couple years ago. I was 27 and the girl I worked with was 21. She was a great friend and she WAS more mature than others her age but then we went on a beach trip and her true colors came out. Imagine being almost 40 and you’re befriending 18-year-olds. So weird.
Ehhhh, it depends on the people. My man and I started playing DnD and ended up befriending some folks who are mid-20s and my partner and I are mid-30s. They've decided they now belong to us. I suddenly have 7 adopted adult kids I didn't get a say in 😆. In all seriousness, they've been great friends. We're all very aware of the differing power dynamics and try to be as respectful of one another as humanly possible.
And who will blame james for what james did ? Because all of this is james doing ,just saying.. Tati ,shane and jeffree didn't make james the predator he is🤷♀️
TP has such a hate-on for Tati, she age-shames her, she’s always so energised to go off on anything Tati-related 👀 like she’s nobody’s favourite but TP has no stones to throw
Trisha is the LAST PERSON who has room to talk on this. The HYPOCRISY! Yes, Tati only said something when James hurt her. SO DID TRISHA, she didn’t care about Colleen until it affected her!
Exactly plus she has never addressed about her husband back in 2021 when ppl came out with texts about talking to minors and talking shit about her body
Adam just saying: I'm going to watch monsters inc. tonight really came out of left field but I'm here for it. I hope you got to have your soup and your movies and felt better!!
Tati also just being a neutral party in the beauty community was kinda annoying tho (this might’ve just been my impression of it tho), I’m not expecting her to be the voice of anti racism but she just didn’t involve herself in any of it and was supposedly just like away from it until she could benefit from stuff. I don’t truly understand her relationship w Jeffrey, but didn’t she say she was scared of him? But that wasn’t because he was a racist bigot (now grifter) it was cause she didn’t wanna get involved in drama. I don’t hate her by any means but when I was actively watching stuff in the beauty community i just remember thinking that of her and I feel it even more now
This exactly! She wanted to be the moral mother figure of the beauty community but also took this centrist stance on problematic creators. Really rubbed me the wrong way
Maybe it's unfair of me but I can't stand Tati playing innocent victim about everything. Like she was a grown woman, but also, given her sobriety story, she DOES know how the world works and how messed up people can be (before sobriety I became extremely distrustful of people because of the situations i was in and the people i spent time with)...so how are you going to pretend that the MOST predatory industry wouldn't have people along the same lines.
I personally think Tati felt some type of way from the sugar hair bear situation and was venting about it to people and that Shane and Jeffrey took advantage of that a fueled the fire. Hurt people hurt people 🤷🏽♀️
Not sure if Adam will see this but Jen Luv is currently doing a 6 part series about James Charles and her latest episode (#3) was all about Dramageddon and she did an amazing break down of everything that happened in a cohesive timeline that I think Adam would enjoy watching!
I think Trisha still has an issue of being harder on women and I think she just doesn’t like Tati so Tati could literally do anything and she’d have beef with her in her head lolol
I think everybody needs to learn the lesson that Adam has been saying for a long time and I've said for many years: 2 THINGS CAN BE TRUE AT THE SAME TIME. You're never going to really understand the layers of any situation when you take a "Team ____" approach to anything.
Sure she never said that but she insinuated that, anyone who kept up with the current events at that time would leave with that message after watching her video. I also watched that Jen luv series and she seems quite biased when it comes to tati, probably because she’s friends(ish) with tati.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!!!!! Tati was so weird and immature for making a big deal about the gummy brand when it was mostly owned by James and how she was rubbing her ass on him when was 19 and she was already in her late 30s she’s still a creep and she is no better nor innocent and she needs to get off of the internet 😒
Now 22 year old here who in the past was befriended at 19 by a 33 year old woman who ended up "developing a crush on me" and wanting me to have sex with her and her husband. I know the Tati befriending James situation is diferent but with the age gap, and honestly life experience gap, it's really weird to befriend someone with that difference.
Me watching this eating homemade chicken noodle soup. I’m glad James got called out but it was so messy. Idk if we would know so much about his bad behavior if it didn’t happen.
I don’t understand why Trisha is defending James Charles when Tati was literally right about him. She did what she needed to do because she saw that he was a predator whose behavior needed to be brought to light. Trish has such a blind spot to things sometimes, it’s why I don’t take her opinions seriously.
I kind of find it wild that Tati keeps saying she was such a good friend to James, like a mother to him, yet she was clearly talking sh'it behind his back with Shane and Jeffrey. She wouldn't have had that "information" unless she entertained those conversations with them.
6:43 people forget / or either didn’t really watch Tati but she had already had drama before dramageddon. She 100% knew it would blow up. Shes always been drama it just became mainstream knowledge after dramagedon
I commented something similar elsewhere, but I don’t think a mentor-mentee relationship between an adult and minor is necessarily bad, as Trisha is kinda of painting it out to be. Obviously the specific relationship here is was ultimately used against the mentee, but adults CAN be a positive presence in the lives of young people if appropriate boundaries are respected. Unfortunately, there are so many people who exploit these relationships that it’s necessary to be weary of them, but nuance is important.
WAIT I CANT KEEP UP I STILL HAVE TO WATCH THE 2HR LIVE AND THE OTHER VIDEOOS. Can u do a video at the end summing up everything too? My adhd will forget what is said in every video too lol
How tf did iNabber make a 7 hour video on Nickacado??? He made a 5 hour one on Elphaba and that shizzz was fire lol still haven’t finished it tho HAHAHHA 😅
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hit that rqst so fast
🫶🏼I requested
does my acc have to be public?
How come your not doing a show on the UK?
she don’t
I feel like Adam has access to something that we mortals don't have: 42 hour days
right? im jelous!
i cant bring myself to do one task and he uploads 10 videos a day
Funny I said “5%” outloud right as you were saying it.
He does a long livestream then cuts the video down to shorter clips @@hellodarkness2731
He is probably just hyper focused @@hellodarkness2731
My take is that James was indeed acting like a predator. then he was called out, panicked and stopped for a while. Then he was exonerated in peoples minds so he went back to his predatory behavior
yup, people use that one waiter situation to exonerate him but forget about the voice notes that proved James was a weirdo
james literally admitted to it
Yep!! And people still blame and hate Tati when what she said was accurate
@@astronomer444 this to
Trish and her sister sound so alike it scares me
Have to watch it cause I don't know who's speaking if I just listen!
My sister and I also sound very similar and I never got it when my mom used to say she couldn’t tell us apart on the phone, but after the first time I saw a video of Trish & her sister, I was like, “Oh!” 😂
@@eckillame sister and my mum sound exactly alike and honestly it’s scary i’ve been talking to my “mum” from my room and i walk out and it’s my sister lol
Wait I didn’t even realize there was a sister until like 5 minutes in
RIGHT?? I have to keep looking to make sure its her and not Trish talking 😂
her sister kinda favors nikki tutorials in terms of facial features, i almost thought it was her at first.
“i do think the way she tells this story is completely fabricated. i really want to watch monsters inc tonight” the WHIPLASH HELP I CANT CONNECT THE DOTS HOW DID WE GET TO MONSTERS INC!!
ADHD in rt
@@Susyseashellyep😂
Same 😂😂 my bf has adhd so I'm used to it, but I still cackled
i was so sure it was gonna be trisha with this unhinged segue. when it turned out to be adam, lmfaoooooo
Tati screwed up by making a fuss over gummy bears. Then screwed up by not standing on what she said because everything she said about James at the time was a huge red flag. If she did she could have made her I told you so video and had won. The only problem was James age and the damn gummy bear
This. As much as she wants to claim it wasn’t about the sugar bear gummies, it was. She wouldnt have mad the video at all if that didn’t happen even with all the other issues she was having with him. She likely would have just distanced herself over time. It was really all about the gummies. I dont even like James at all but he at least only promoted the sleep gummies and not the hair line that is her actual competitor so he did seem like he was trying to be mindful of what aspect of that brand he was promoting since she doesn’t have a sleep line. She was just as immature for making it all about a brand deal when that’s literally their job as influencers and only caring about his sexual harassment issues AFTER all that
THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!!!!! Tati was so weird and immature for making a big deal about the gummy brand when it was mostly owned by James and how she was rubbing her ass on him when was 19 and she was already in her late 30s she’s still a creep and she is no better nor innocent and she needs to get off of the internet 😒
The problem I had was her blaming Shane and Jeffree and trying take herself out the situation, because who was getting Mass canceled Shane and Jeffree. Who benefitted from shifting the blame Tati. While I can see Jeffree spearheading it, Shane going alone with it for his damn docuseries. However Tati is a grown ass woman and she made the video, had a hand in editing it and posted it, said all these serious allegation about the person she was mentoring without proper investigations. Everyone had a hand in that circus including James for proving everyone involved right in the end.
Period
Agreed. As much as Shane messed up in his own career with his inappropriate jokes (and there were so many) and getting involved with dumb sh**, I do feel like he was just the scapegoat in this situation, imo, even Jeffree too, I feel like they were scapegoats here... (however, I don't like how either of them accidentally or blatantly used Eugenia Cooney the way they did or continue to:/ God, I hope she can get help, or at the very least find peace and break free from her situation)
Nah Trisha’s wrong like always and has to insert herself into everything for whatever narcissistic reason. Simple.
This 🙌
Ding ding “proper investigation” about a serious allegation
My take on this situation is that Trisha is like the last person who should call Tati out like wasn’t she having a transactional ‘friendship’ with jojo siwa and like other popular minors online. Yet on her defense I think her point stands like she was spitting facts on her video.
Riiiight. When she was going on about Tati being 37 and James being 17, like babe you were friends with a 14 at some point too. Even if it was ‘only on camera’. She would film with Jojo alone.
I think there's a difference between working with a child star wether that's an yt/ig/tiktok or Hollywood child star, or befriending them & inviting them to parties & building a close intimate relationship. Like winona ryder worked with millie Bobby Brown, which is fine, but Drake started a weird, close, intimate friendship, which isn't fine.
@@zoar5768 PREAAAAAAAAAAAAAACh
Trisha wasn't her friend, she already explained this
@@zoar5768 "and he did it at my birthday dinner" yes, why we he AT YOUR BIRTHDAY DINNER?
I’m just glad to hear someone finally mention the fact that she was 37 when this happened.
That’s very young idk why everyone acts like you are ancient after 25
@@Lana4life19it’s the age where you’re supposed to be fully mature. Like, after 30 or so, it’s time to start acting your age. No one’s saying it’s old, but it’s too old to be involved in this shit.
@@hannahwalmer1124 saying you’re not allowed to make mistakes after a certain age is crazy.
@@Lana4life19 where’d I say that? Go ahead, I’m waiting.
@@Lana4life19 I agree that it is young in the grand scheme, but way too old to be acting like you’re the one being manipulated by a teenager.
idk in my personal opinion i just can't stand that tati continues to say that she had no idea bye sister would blow up like she wasn't the biggest beauty community influencer and james charles was even bigger OUTSIDE of that community. like it's james charles why WOULDNT that have blown up?? i can extend empathy but i just don't feel sorry. not to mention the casual befriending of two racists. one of which has well documented inappropriate encounters with children. i refuse to believe someone of her stature had no idea. like i just can't bring myself to care
ALSO, how did she not expect it to blow up with an iconic title like that???
Based on how jefree has used sexual assualt as balck mail vefore i do genuinely bwlieve he was feeding tati all that information, i think she went back on her word because when it came out the boy at the restaurant actually was messaging james she thought that everything was a lie
Everytime Adam’s name is mentioned in drama he’s covering I feel like the fourth wall is being broken and my brain like goes into shock a little bit for a second. 😂😂😂
Adam cannot get away from these damn Colleen conversation. They always mention him like omg
Because Colleen is a user, abuser and manipulator and Adam was her most notorious story of victimization of a child
unfortunately gummy vitamins are basically the worst form of vitamins bc they’re majority gelatine and sugar and very little actual vitamin content. but don’t let that stop your fun, the placebo effect is real 😂
The placebo effect is fascinating. Our brains can do some wacky stuff.
trisha and her sister's voices are so similar that if im not watching who's talking i feel like im listening to trisha speak to herself in 0.25x speed
That's because they have a similar face shape. So the voice sounds the same. This is applicable to people who aren't related too
I just want to remind anyone who might have forgotten, as i often do (particularly when I'm the one I'm bullying)-
You can do a bad thing and still be a good person. You can do a series of bad things and always be better than the worst thing you've done. You are not your worst moments. Nobody else is either.
I agree, however, if you continue to do the worst things or support them and don't change, then you turn into said thing, but if you change, genuinely, then I think you can be given another shot (by societies standards, I am no judge and I am not God, so I am not saying how people should live or if we should have mercy or not)
Unless you’re a predator
If you’re a predator, you are the bad things you’ve done :)
Depends but in james Charles case ,murder is worst ,thats about it.
Preds are not good .
i’ve been debating to sleep, but im in the mood to hear abt drama, and you’ve been FEEDING us.
Trisha Paytas is like the cockroach of YT drama, she is always somewhere where tha drama is. 😭
Lmao this is the truest comment I’ve seen and it’s iconic.
And she survives in some of the worst climates that would’ve driven other organisms to extinction.
Always at the scene of the crime!
11:16 AS SOON AS SHE STARTED WITH THAT I WAS LITERALLY WAITING FOR ADAM TO GO “OOH THATS NOT” LMFAOOOO
Adam with the Gabbie song reference “so what if I’m the monster” 😂 I’m dead!! I love it!
Hey Adam, I have BPD and suffer from dissociation, the longest dissociation I had was 4 months long, but most of the time it's only a few hours at a time, at most a day, everyone is different, Trish also has BPD and suffers from dissociation, she did in the past as well
A lot of people dissociate, but people with BPD have a much higher chance and frequency of doing it, it's our bodies response to stress/trauma, etc
I don't think you should side eye it with Trish, she had a *lot* going on at the time and legit almost passed away and ended up in the hospital and psych ward and went through so so so much, I 100% believe she's either forgotten a lot or her mind is protecting her and took it away from her
I hope you're doing okay it sounds really rough especially with the stigma around BPD
@@Achilles7117 Hey, I appreciate that 🙏🏻 I've been through so much in my life, I hit rock bottom time and time again, each time thinking it couldn't get any worse (I was wrong) medication and therapy didn't help me all that much, I had to initially help myself to some degree, even then it wasn't working, eventually things got so bad, after countless attempts on my life and wanting not to hurt my family, but needing an escape from the pain, I turned to God and since late last year, I've still been battling a lot, but I keep giving it to God to deal with, He's helping me through this and I couldn't do it without Him ♡
My battle has been long and painful, but I turned to Jesus and I have hope now, for the future and I feel peace more often 🙏🏻 legit wouldn't be here without Jesus
Thankyou again for your comment
this is the clearest way ive seen anyone explain what its like to have BPD thats not a 30+ min educational video. thank you for providing some clarity there, and im hoping youre doing ok❤
As an adult she should have confronted James herself, with his mom as well, let him know that she was cutting ties due to xyz… none of this should have been made into a video. She was too grown for that, James was wrong but he was a kid and needed to be confronted and spoken to
Exactly! James’ mum was at the infamous birthday dinner, which means that Tati had the means to obtain her contact details and raise any concerns she had about James with her. In private. Like a grownup. If she was really that concerned
Trisha bought HALO BEAUTY and she tweeted that she bought it after Shane recommended it to her 😂
I’m sorry but Trisha is the last person who can call out Tati on this, yes Tati knew James was a weirdo and only started caring once he did something that hurt her feelings, but TRISHA didn’t care or comment on the Colleen situation until it directly involved her so like….pick and choose ur battles girl
I’m sorry but how unproductive is it to gate keep who can call out who? Just because someone has done something before and it could make them sound hypocritical, doesn’t mean that they can’t disagree now.
@dd4850…I am. Can people not learn and grow? Also, Tati willingly sat on knowing weird things about James until she had a personal issue with him over gummy bears. I’m not saying Trisha didn’t know about Colleen, and I’m not defending her or saying that she shouldn’t have spoken up about the situation sooner. What I am saying is that she should still be able to talk about the Tati situation.
Trisha was actively involved in this which is why she talked about it. As for Colleen Trisha thought she could take colleen at her word and she lied to her face
Girl what?
At least Trisha didn't blame other people for all of her actions and act like she was a victim who had no control. Tati only apologized when James proved she was lying and she had no choice but to respond. Not much better than Trisha responding when she found out Colleen was lying, but at least she was upfront on saying she foolishly believed her.
I disagree with the people saying she was manipulated. She is a grown woman that didn't have to make the video. She made the video out of spite not because it was the right thing to do and we know this because she threw Jeffree and Shane under the bus as soon as things weren't going her way. When this is the type of situation if James was actually doing what she was accusing him of it doesn't matter if it was going her way or not she should have stood 10 times down or owned up to be wrong instead of playing victim. However I do think that Jeffree and Shane enabled her 100%. I think that Jeffrey and Shane saw an opportunity to add fuel to the flames.
Exactly. I am about to make my own comment, but it’s usually whenever a woman is to blame that everyone starts to look elsewhere and it’s a just another one of those societal double standards. Woman and accountability seldom mix.
I adore that Trish sister just lets her be, knows she’s famous and just interacts like a sister 🥹
LMFAOOOOOO your child just reciting the “and you DID it at my birthday dinner” in front of their history class like when I had to recite a piece from a Shakespeare play in language arts LMFAOOOO
The Tati, Shane and Jeffree of it all just muddies the water. Two things can be true. Tati observed alarming behavior at her birthday dinner all while having two birdies in her ears feeding little tidbits of fear-affirming gossip. Do I believe Tati didn’t think it would blow up? Yes.
Do I believe she found James’ behavior worrisome?
Yes.
Do I believe Shane and Jefferee used Tati for their own agenda and Tati thought it would end in her favor?
Yes.
What I never understood/liked about Dramaggedon is [first] that everyone brings up Tati's age - like you can be manipulated at any age and [second] that the one woman is the one who took the brunt of everything while the other three men, all who have serious allegations about them, have gotten barely any backlash from it...
I feel like everyone has forgotten the fact that Jeffree Star was dangling audio clip of James' alleged victim in front of EVERYONE. He probably showed it to Tati and she probably wanted to distance herself from James. She probably thought that the audience will turn on her but everyone sided with her and it blew up.
One piece of lore that I haven't seen anyone mentioning, and I remember it because I was seated during Dramaggedon 2, is that James Charles attended the Met Gala and received backlash that resulted in his Socialblade turning red BEFORE Bye Sister. When that video was released, the public ALREADY didn't like James Charles and quickly jumped on Tati's side. And I think Jeffree and Shane planning that would be so possible, pushing Tati to do it when James is not in good graces. I can see Tati being disappointed in James and Jeffree sliding in DMs.
You doing the hand movements during a bag check is cracking me up 😂
Can you tell me where this is frommmm
@@raggedyanne9631It’s a orangutan at the zoo directing people to show it what’s in their bags lol
Tati was almost 40. You cannot convince me this woman did not think about the consequences. And the fact that she took very little accountability? What is with RUclipsrs/influencers and the power trips they go on?
THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!!!!! Tati was so weird and immature for making a big deal about the gummy brand when it was mostly owned by James and how she was rubbing her ass on him when was 19 and she was already in her late 30s she’s still a creep and she is no better nor innocent and she needs to get off of the internet 😒
Finalllyyyyy the cult was mentioned lmaoooo.
Chat gpt knows about dramageddon
I’m still done with Trisha. Yall got her out here believing she’s been redeemed and has room to speak on this stuff. Hypocrite.
I’ve never been into her but watch all these drama videos about her and she is a huge hypocrite!!! The stuff she’s done and gotten away with is wild!
Tati didn't care about James being a pred. She cared that he promoted a competitor. Point blank period. She just used whatever dirty laundry she had on him to take him down and pretend to care to destroy his career for daring to cross her. It's not cute, and ruined Tatis career for a reason. She can try to rewrite history today but people will always remember.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!!!!! Tati was so weird and immature for making a big deal about the gummy brand when it was mostly owned by James and how she was rubbing her ass on him when was 19 and she was already in her late 30s she’s still a creep and she is no better nor innocent and she needs to get off of the internet 😒
If James hadnt promoted a rival gummy company Tati would not have made the video. Thats all that needs to be said so regardless of who whispered in her ear, you made it about your friend who was 17 at the time. Too many people forgive her because James became a creep after he became of age which was not the case when the video was made.
I agree. And if I've been friends with someone for years to the point of seeing each other as family, and someone I've known for two weeks is spreading rumors about them to me, I'm not gonna believe the stranger. I'm gonna go back to my friend and tell them who's been saying what behind their back. The fact that she was so quick to make a video about James shows exactly the type of 'friend' she is too ppl.
1:37 I always have the same IMMEDIATE reaction when I try to speed up a Trisha video and then going “OOP NOPE”
i'm gunna b real, i'm 29 and i briefly made friends with a 23 yr old i work with, thinking "hey we're all adults here, why couldn't we be friends?" but after a few weeks of hanging on breaks i realized how immature she was. and also a very bad friend bc she's in a very selfish time of her life. ofc this can be a one-off example, but i have sworn off younger friends completely. i have no idea why anyone would want to hang with someone so significantly younger. their youth and immaturity is ALWAYSSS obvious.
I was in a similar situation a couple years ago. I was 27 and the girl I worked with was 21. She was a great friend and she WAS more mature than others her age but then we went on a beach trip and her true colors came out. Imagine being almost 40 and you’re befriending 18-year-olds. So weird.
Ehhhh, it depends on the people. My man and I started playing DnD and ended up befriending some folks who are mid-20s and my partner and I are mid-30s. They've decided they now belong to us. I suddenly have 7 adopted adult kids I didn't get a say in 😆. In all seriousness, they've been great friends. We're all very aware of the differing power dynamics and try to be as respectful of one another as humanly possible.
I am chronically Adam McIntyre online, I am Australian and LUV your accent the way I’ll randomly say ‘heyever ☝️(however)’ I LOVE IT
I want the flowers in the background of trisha’s set
And who will blame james for what james did ?
Because all of this is james doing ,just saying..
Tati ,shane and jeffree didn't make james the predator he is🤷♀️
12:05 my understanding of Tati's appologies to James was that she made it so public. Not that it wasnt true.
Was there for the live but trustttt I’m still watching every video posted
i mean trisha was kinda friends with jojo siwa so ... idk why shes using the age thing all of a sudden
I told myself the same thing .
currently folding laundry while watching
TP has such a hate-on for Tati, she age-shames her, she’s always so energised to go off on anything Tati-related 👀 like she’s nobody’s favourite but TP has no stones to throw
Trisha is the LAST PERSON who has room to talk on this. The HYPOCRISY!
Yes, Tati only said something when James hurt her. SO DID TRISHA, she didn’t care about Colleen until it affected her!
Exactly plus she has never addressed about her husband back in 2021 when ppl came out with texts about talking to minors and talking shit about her body
Same with Shane
FINALLY. SOMEONE SMART IN THE ROOM. Who T’f gave Trisha this pedestal to stand on?
@@Catsaregoodandyourenot exactly I still don’t understand why ppl switched up as if she’s an good person.
I think Tati was surrounded by drama and she got pulled into it
Love how you turned into mickey mouse at 20:58 😂
0:19 forget six degrees of kevin bacon, it's six degrees of trisha paytas now
It's like how Trisha is included in every Nicole Rafiee video 😅
Adam just saying: I'm going to watch monsters inc. tonight really came out of left field but I'm here for it. I hope you got to have your soup and your movies and felt better!!
Monsters university is my favorite movie of all time, I felt like a sleeper agent being activated when you said that
Tati also just being a neutral party in the beauty community was kinda annoying tho (this might’ve just been my impression of it tho), I’m not expecting her to be the voice of anti racism but she just didn’t involve herself in any of it and was supposedly just like away from it until she could benefit from stuff. I don’t truly understand her relationship w Jeffrey, but didn’t she say she was scared of him? But that wasn’t because he was a racist bigot (now grifter) it was cause she didn’t wanna get involved in drama. I don’t hate her by any means but when I was actively watching stuff in the beauty community i just remember thinking that of her and I feel it even more now
This exactly! She wanted to be the moral mother figure of the beauty community but also took this centrist stance on problematic creators. Really rubbed me the wrong way
Damn Adam I’m trying to watch all the new uploads at the same time , spare me 🙏
Gonna have to watch in 2x
Maybe it's unfair of me but I can't stand Tati playing innocent victim about everything. Like she was a grown woman, but also, given her sobriety story, she DOES know how the world works and how messed up people can be (before sobriety I became extremely distrustful of people because of the situations i was in and the people i spent time with)...so how are you going to pretend that the MOST predatory industry wouldn't have people along the same lines.
Unfortunately at the end of the day…. James is actually accused of a lot of things and a lot of people literally just ignore that… which is so weird
16:54 OMG WATCH WRECK IT RALPH 2!!! shank, one of the girl characters, is such a big crush of mine still idgaf
I personally think Tati felt some type of way from the sugar hair bear situation and was venting about it to people and that Shane and Jeffrey took advantage of that a fueled the fire. Hurt people hurt people 🤷🏽♀️
Not sure if Adam will see this but Jen Luv is currently doing a 6 part series about James Charles and her latest episode (#3) was all about Dramageddon and she did an amazing break down of everything that happened in a cohesive timeline that I think Adam would enjoy watching!
Funny how Trisha takes more issue with this than the actual racists she’s friends with (Tana mongeau and Brooke Schofield).
i completely agree with trisha, tati wouldn’t of made that video nor cared about what he’d supposedly done if he hasn’t of been with a competitor 👀
i love being early with the uploads
I think Trisha still has an issue of being harder on women and I think she just doesn’t like Tati so Tati could literally do anything and she’d have beef with her in her head lolol
I think everybody needs to learn the lesson that Adam has been saying for a long time and I've said for many years: 2 THINGS CAN BE TRUE AT THE SAME TIME.
You're never going to really understand the layers of any situation when you take a "Team ____" approach to anything.
Loving your videos, Adam! Thanks! ❤
Jen Luv has been going over dramageddon and bye sister and everything, and tati actually never said james was a predator. That was jafar.
She said it in a reply to a comment
Sure she never said that but she insinuated that, anyone who kept up with the current events at that time would leave with that message after watching her video. I also watched that Jen luv series and she seems quite biased when it comes to tati, probably because she’s friends(ish) with tati.
These videos keep coming omg just finished the last one slay
Hey Adam off topic but how do you hang up your vinyl's without them falling down , Love you
Tati screwed up by becoming so close with a 17 year old at her age
THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!!!!! Tati was so weird and immature for making a big deal about the gummy brand when it was mostly owned by James and how she was rubbing her ass on him when was 19 and she was already in her late 30s she’s still a creep and she is no better nor innocent and she needs to get off of the internet 😒
Now 22 year old here who in the past was befriended at 19 by a 33 year old woman who ended up "developing a crush on me" and wanting me to have sex with her and her husband. I know the Tati befriending James situation is diferent but with the age gap, and honestly life experience gap, it's really weird to befriend someone with that difference.
Please come to Portland, OR!! 😍😍💜💜
Me watching this eating homemade chicken noodle soup. I’m glad James got called out but it was so messy. Idk if we would know so much about his bad behavior if it didn’t happen.
I don’t understand why Trisha is defending James Charles when Tati was literally right about him. She did what she needed to do because she saw that he was a predator whose behavior needed to be brought to light. Trish has such a blind spot to things sometimes, it’s why I don’t take her opinions seriously.
Why is Trisha backpedaling on James Charles?
Trisha at 4:16 had me dying 😂😭
Not even 10 minutes ago is lethal..
I kind of find it wild that Tati keeps saying she was such a good friend to James, like a mother to him, yet she was clearly talking sh'it behind his back with Shane and Jeffrey. She wouldn't have had that "information" unless she entertained those conversations with them.
I’m only 3 hours away from New York don’t temp my chronically online ass 🤪
31:07 ADAMM 😭😭
Do you really think he wasn't a pred before 😂 ,very naive of you adam.
If he is one now he was one before .
how is adam posting so fast im gagged 😭😭
All the things Trisha went through was way more interesting than whatever the hell dramageddon was.
Adam, throw me a birthday party 🎈
I WAS DYING DURING THIS STREAM IF U COULDNT TELL💜
Tati thought she was pushed into a corner to say what she said..that seems like Trisha might be projecting a little.
Yass Felix in the background looking at us the whole time :)🤭🤭
I haven't watched tati since before all the drama, lowkey disassociating cause it's bringing me back to like 14 years old
adam you should watch monsters at work, it's a tv show in the monsters inc universe and it's good imo.
6:43 people forget / or either didn’t really watch Tati but she had already had drama before dramageddon. She 100% knew it would blow up. Shes always been drama it just became mainstream knowledge after dramagedon
“Who needs a birthday party when they’re this old??” Me! I do!
I commented something similar elsewhere, but I don’t think a mentor-mentee relationship between an adult and minor is necessarily bad, as Trisha is kinda of painting it out to be.
Obviously the specific relationship here is was ultimately used against the mentee, but adults CAN be a positive presence in the lives of young people if appropriate boundaries are respected. Unfortunately, there are so many people who exploit these relationships that it’s necessary to be weary of them, but nuance is important.
trish back at it again!
WAIT I CANT KEEP UP
I STILL HAVE TO WATCH THE 2HR LIVE AND THE OTHER VIDEOOS. Can u do a video at the end summing up everything too? My adhd will forget what is said in every video too lol
How tf did iNabber make a 7 hour video on Nickacado??? He made a 5 hour one on Elphaba and that shizzz was fire lol still haven’t finished it tho HAHAHHA 😅
Putting Trisha’s videos on any kind of speed is like listening to her vid on 5x speed 😂
😂😂😂died when he tried speeding it up
drag and bag like that is so canadian i love it
Adam, please come to Seattle 😭😭
Monsters university is a great film idc