The Death Ship a tragedy at sea , Documentary by Wilfried Huismann

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

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  • @tundrawomansays5067
    @tundrawomansays5067 5 лет назад +45

    This is appalling. The indifference of the Commission, the company itself, the casual, smug intentional dismissal of critical information is disgusting. Every last one of them demonstrate a complete lack of conscience. Corporate psychopaths.

  • @thomasm1964
    @thomasm1964 3 года назад +7

    The same thing happened 200 - 300 years ago. Over-insure the ship. If it survived, profit from the cargo; if it perished, profit from the insurance. Seamen? What concern are they of ours?

  • @sheilakelly9116
    @sheilakelly9116 3 года назад +7

    Thank you for the extensive research that went into this film. At least someone cares about the 12 souls that were lost.

  • @MrRgr004
    @MrRgr004 4 года назад +15

    At the time of Scantrader loss I was working in a ship's agency in Le Havre (France) and the vessel called our port shortly prior to the sinking. I did not go on the ship myself for that particular call, my colleague was in charge. I learned about the loss of the vessel from the charterer in London, who was appointing us as agent, I guess we were on the phone talking about usual business when he asked me he I had learnt about the accident and I replied no. Very sad to hear years later that nothing was made to fully investigate that accident as it should have been. The quantity of cargo loaded was without no doubt mentioned on the bill of lading which is among other things a receipt for the cargo delivered on board and this document can also be used for selling the cargo. So for sure the actual cargo weight was indicated on the B/L. In Le Havre for every single call of cement carriers for which we were the agent for the same charterer a cargo surveyor was appointed to check and validate the figures mentioned on the bill of lading. Respects to the crew and families of those lost in this tragedy.

  • @grahamsawyer831
    @grahamsawyer831 2 года назад +4

    television redeems itself a little...an important story, and very well told.

  • @patsyparkin3536
    @patsyparkin3536 6 лет назад +22

    Wonderful investigative documentary. Thanks for the time and effort.

  • @littlespinycactus
    @littlespinycactus 6 лет назад +27

    Someone, do the world a favour- hold Beutler's head under water til he stops struggling.

  • @richardcline1337
    @richardcline1337 6 лет назад +40

    It's the same thing the world over. He who has the money controls the law. The real criminals walk away as though nothing had ever happened. The best "justice" money can buy!

  • @felixcat9318
    @felixcat9318 4 года назад +6

    I could not believe that the vessel filmed at the cement company dock was allowed to set out when there was no freeboard and the deck was virtually awash on the vessel that was bought from a salvage company!
    The vessel was unseaworthy, irrespective of what it's inspection certificates indicate.
    As Crew, if you allow yourself to be so mistreated and you go to sea on a vessel which you know is wholly unseaworthy, you are literally contributing to your own death!
    That such vessels are not impounded and and the companies prosecuted is utterly shameful.

  • @glengrieve544
    @glengrieve544 Год назад +1

    Greetings from Australia May all the victim's rest in peace and my condolences go to the poor families

  • @ggurks
    @ggurks 4 года назад +10

    Beutler got a suspened sentence of 8 months and had to pay 20,000 DM. Considering every overloading brought him 10,000 DM I don't think this hurt him much

    • @m4rs12
      @m4rs12 3 года назад

      Hope he will be burnt in hell for eternity, OR be reincarnated to a pig ready to be sent to slaughterhouse!

    • @delanorrosey4730
      @delanorrosey4730 7 месяцев назад +2

      In 2019, him, his son, and their manager are in court on reinforced charges related to the Scantrader.

  • @andyfrost4657
    @andyfrost4657 5 лет назад +7

    Never should a ship be able to be registered in a country like Malta that does not have a Maritime Investigation Unit. A ship registered is such a country should not be allowed into another country’s waters.
    If an Airline company does not adhere to safety and maintenance then the airline is banned and so it should be. This should be the same for shipping. No ships don’t drop out of the sky, but lives are lost, cargos are potentially very damaging.

    • @VigilanceTech
      @VigilanceTech 5 лет назад +3

      not only that, but sometimes such ships can sink at harbor entrances, in docks, or close offshore where they become a hazard to navigation and a pollution problem

  • @montanasnowman3138
    @montanasnowman3138 2 года назад +1

    This shipping company is still open in Germany.
    That's f. Terrible.

  • @postwar46
    @postwar46 2 года назад +2

    Very well assembled details which illuminate a huge shortfall in owner support for the Ship Master, and indeed the officers and crew who serve in good faith

  • @namelinzinaw3564
    @namelinzinaw3564 3 года назад +2

    no wage for first six months, sounds good, slave labour in full swing, human trafficking.There is a special place in hell for all those involved in this disaster.

  • @YukariAkiyamaTanks
    @YukariAkiyamaTanks 3 года назад +2

    Its a shame that even cruise lines even flying flags of Convience. One of these days a ship will sink and kill hundreds under a flag of Convience and lines will have no choice to act up. But I have my doubts they will learn.

  • @lnteIIigence
    @lnteIIigence 2 года назад +2

    The world feels cold and cruel enough as it is, but hearing how people were treated by the law and their employer etc in this video is just horrible.

  • @ken15cia
    @ken15cia 3 года назад +1

    Criminals without remorse or concience.. disgusting!!

  • @Thebustermann
    @Thebustermann 3 года назад +4

    Welcome, shore dwellers, to the reality behind your cheap foreign imports. Crews that are overworked, underpaid if they are lucky, and easily sacrificed by the company for profits. Almost every shipping company is like this.

  • @jeannebradbury
    @jeannebradbury 4 года назад +4

    Thankfully there are still those who demand accountability and justice for the innocent victims.

  • @janechanning984
    @janechanning984 Год назад +2

    It is not surprising the erroneous money men walk away with a smile on their face, money in their pockets and a thumbs up via the Laws written by psychos. Why? Because we, the foolish ones are willing to go along with it and can do little to stop it unless we ruin our own lives to achieve a hearing, because sadly, a hearing is all that will be gained.

  • @stumccreadie9772
    @stumccreadie9772 5 лет назад +14

    I really hope that the window in Bombay gets
    the insurance money

  • @OAleathaO
    @OAleathaO 3 года назад +2

    8:03 - In other words what this guy is saying is that, "Yes, I had a job to do but I didn't feel like going out of my way to do it. What are you going to do about it?" smh 11:45 - "...we would have had to postpone the hearing again and have everything officially translated." Basically he's saying that 12 dead people are not enough to make that worth his time and effort. 15:40 - "How do you make peace with your conscience?" I don't think he has any problems because *_he has no_* moral conscience. 26:17 - "No, no, no, it's not like that. You can't do that." Of course not. You might have found something.

  • @nutew4809
    @nutew4809 5 лет назад +3

    Good Doc , shows greed will kill.

  • @iane1022
    @iane1022 4 года назад +2

    At least the judge has some integrity and jurisprudence, it’s a good thing he held his ground, he was right. Terrible tragedy compounded by the assery of most involved

  • @jeffcampbell1555
    @jeffcampbell1555 6 лет назад +18

    I've been naive to think the American MBA ethos is to blame for exploitative and immoral business practices. It's clear businesses worldwide have arranged circumstances to maximize profit while obscuring responsibility for dangerous practices. How can we do this ourselves? Such a species is destined for extinction.

    • @teenieneenie630
      @teenieneenie630 6 лет назад +1

      Geez...think about it. America is a young country, founded by immigrants, populated by immigrants who brought their OWN ways with them. Any dishonesty in the country was brought over by the founders and populace. You should at least apologize to this Native American (me) for such an assumption. Apology accepted.

    • @jeffcampbell1555
      @jeffcampbell1555 6 лет назад

      teenie neenie: If you live on a reservation I sincerely apologize for the many degradations your people have suffered at the hands of my forebearers. Ironically, my ancestry includes Blackfoot, Crow, Iroquois and Cherokee, via females who settled with male frontiersmen. Their descendants identified European, and benefited from stolen native tribal lands. Turns out this heritage is fairly common among white families from the Appalachian mountains to California. Injustice or privilege continues to be assigned based on the accident of birth. Manifest Destiny was in many ways like a Greek tragedy.

    • @argtv100
      @argtv100 6 лет назад

      Well, as a decendant of those immigrants (in america before the revolutionary war) I will apologize for the genocide perpetrated on native Americans. Nothing quite as cruel and demonic as white Europeans.

    • @ericvondumb2838
      @ericvondumb2838 6 лет назад +1

      2nd generation legal United States Citizen. Don't care about slavery or cigar store Indians! I owe you losers nothing!!! Take your welfare checks and stop your bitching.

    • @apexxxx10
      @apexxxx10 6 лет назад

      ihategoogle *Curb weight?*

  • @lewisdoherty7621
    @lewisdoherty7621 6 лет назад +15

    At no point did this documentary address what part the insurance companies play in this. One would think if a ship is overloaded past the Plimsoll marks or other defects are known, there must be some method to report it to the insurance company or some known entity which would report it to the proper company. Certainly, there must be a pool of insurance inspectors available at ports which would look into something like this. When there are millions of dollars of liability in something, they must be interested. In fact, I would think there would be a fee paid to someone by the companies reporting unsafe situations. If a captain is being pressured to do something, he would be protected if an insurance inspector receives an anonymous tip.

    • @tedthesailor172
      @tedthesailor172 6 лет назад +2

      Agreed. It's very strange. The insurance company was said to have paid out 100,000 Dm for each crew member which was nearly 1million Dm alone. Then there was the (over)value of the ship and also its cargo. Knowingly overloading your vessel and failing to maintain it would both surely invalidate the insurance. They certainly do on leisure craft. You'd think an investigator would've gone through the paperwork and testimonies with a fine-toothed comb in order to get out of any liability. What kind of insurance company just coughs up millions without so much as a by-your-leave in the third millennium? They'd go bust in no time.

    • @ThePlatinumsquirrel
      @ThePlatinumsquirrel 6 лет назад +2

      Well it was briefly stated in the start that it was a ‘well insured ship’ if I recall correctly. It’s understated yes but I take that as one of the many ‘make of it what you will’ implications

    • @bahn2452
      @bahn2452 5 лет назад

      Seriously, you'd think there was some kind of clause of what the insurance policy covered and one of them not being over loaded. Insurance companies don't want to pay out money for a claim %99.99 of the time.

    • @khutt19
      @khutt19 4 года назад

      The Classification Society seems to be very much at fault,ie Lloyds,ABS,they inspect ships for their seaworthiness and will arrest a ship if it was in that condition.However they all use a flag of convenience which may allow to them to select a classification society that can be bought off.I have sailed on many different tupes of vessels,some as a Chief Engineer,others as 2nd.Eng,,they run to very fine schedules,For example,a cruise ship,passangers have read the brochure maybe 6 months to a year in advance,so if the itinery says the vessel with be in this port at 0600 hours on this date,,,it will be there,I have seen exhaust fires because of this.A cargo vessel is under other types of pressure but it is all time,you may have perishable cargo,penalty deadliness etc,,hence Captains taking risks.Anyway,the insurance company would have had a copy of the Classification Societys document of seaworthiness,which would ,by the looks of the vessel would have been false.The insurance company would not have set foot onboard,the cargo was probably worth more than the ship,and that would have been insured,for the permitted weight,not the actual weight.The owner was an ex-captain,he would have known the extra weight could not be classed as ballast and was a potential hazzard.This is happening now,every day.

    • @Roscoe.P.Coldchain
      @Roscoe.P.Coldchain Год назад

      I smell large scale corruption

  • @AviationNut
    @AviationNut 6 лет назад +17

    That's mind blowing just look at 31:02 and 31:25, it shows how extremely overloaded that ship is, it's crazy the deck is almost even with the water. If that ship encounters a bigger storm it will sink instantly. What the hell are these greedy companies thinking, especially after the tragedy that just happened because of overloading. They overwork their employees while stealing their money, that they worked extremely hard to earn. I swear this just pisses me off.

    • @tedthesailor172
      @tedthesailor172 6 лет назад +6

      Agreed. I'd sooner beg in the street than sail on that bucket. The maritime business is one of the last unregulated disgraces throughout the world. Even the rich western nations are complicit. They're no more scrupulous than people traffickers. On average, a thousand merchant sailors have lost their lives each year for the last decade. It's feudalism on the ocean.

    • @richardcline1337
      @richardcline1337 6 лет назад +2

      And the great EU is supposed to be so much better than the single countries that make it what it is? Sounds like slave trading just took on a new partner. It's all a bunch of politics and no morals!

    • @myassizitchy
      @myassizitchy 6 лет назад +2

      Aviation Nut good god how can that even stay afloat ?.in any kinda swells itd be swamped

    • @epasko5713
      @epasko5713 5 лет назад +3

      I especially liked the greenbean can rig @ 32:26

    • @VigilanceTech
      @VigilanceTech 5 лет назад +1

      and what's even crazier is that they said Beutler had been a captain himself before buying his ships and starting his company

  • @granskare
    @granskare 5 лет назад +11

    $$$$ is the real problem. Greed is the real problem, everywhere. He claims so much to be religious...$$$ greed.

    • @rockstar-5934
      @rockstar-5934 4 года назад +1

      David Tate Sr you mean probably a trump supporter

  • @rogexpo9430
    @rogexpo9430 4 года назад +1

    They should have dragged his ass on board and say okay we’ll go but your coming with us you bastard.

  • @nw8000
    @nw8000 5 лет назад +3

    What has happened since 1995? Are they all out of prison yet?

  • @themythhunter9764
    @themythhunter9764 Год назад +1

    This is more than disgusting! Very good investigative work! Hope karma got these corporate scum!

  • @oldhick9047
    @oldhick9047 5 лет назад +4

    The trucking industry and commercial flying work the same way, blame the one on scene, Pilot, driver, who ever is at the bottom gets to accept the heat. Truck drivers have always been held responsible for overweight tickets no matter the reason. I have drivers get fired for not accepting a load for good cause.

  • @terilefevers6189
    @terilefevers6189 6 лет назад +11

    My Daddy owned a trucking company in east KY for several decades back years ago. When I was a child I was aware that there was an accidental death. A coal truck had the truck bed (back) up for some reason. The mechanic was attempting to put some engine oil in it. What no one knew was that the top of the truck bed was touching power lines. He was killed when he placed the oil on the truck. We knew, justifiably so, that there would be a lawsuit. Years later I went on to marry that unfortunate man's nephew. My Daddy asked my husband if anyone ever got the insurance money. Therefore I have never heard of an insurance company giving compensation for a death to any company directly. This makes absolutely no sense to me. Whomever screwed over that poor family from India...well if they do not pay on Earth, they will be held accountable in the hereafter. This makes me so sad and angry at the same time. Anyway, have a great day/night guys and gals.

    • @NoName-np8ko
      @NoName-np8ko 6 лет назад +1

      Why not? It all has to do with who the beneficiary is listed as. Companies sometimes buy life insurance on key personnel. I'm pretty sure you can buy life insurance on anyone as long as you can prove their death would impact you financially in a negative way (ie- like one of your key employees dying).

    • @myassizitchy
      @myassizitchy 6 лет назад

      What is this hereafter u speak of.? Do u actually believe in that ?

  • @UserUser-oy8ch
    @UserUser-oy8ch 4 года назад +3

    I guarantee they had no survival suits on board either

  • @martinbitter4162
    @martinbitter4162 3 года назад +1

    Is maritime law in Germany still that evasive?

  • @johnryan2193
    @johnryan2193 Месяц назад

    This has been the story with shipping companies since the the 1500 hundreds , the phrase " you have a deadline " could not be more apt . What I find extraordinary is the fact that the polish load master was in complete ignorance of the ballast requirements for this ship .

  • @Oakleaf700
    @Oakleaf700 7 лет назад +9

    Pay your staff!!!!!!! Don't overload your vessels so they sit way too low in the water. [without ballast?!!] Maintain your vessels..it ain't rocket science.

    • @OAleathaO
      @OAleathaO 6 лет назад +3

      +Oakleaf700 --> Paying staff and maintaining vessels cost money. Companies are all about making profit, not spending money. I'm not agreeing with it, just stating the facts.

    • @MarcDufresneosorusrex
      @MarcDufresneosorusrex 6 лет назад

      i didn't know what a flag of convenience was..

    • @OAleathaO
      @OAleathaO 6 лет назад

      +Marc Dufresne --> It is pretty funny that most of the "civilized world" thinks that we eliminated USA Wild West-style lawlessness around the world. However, in many parts of the world's oceans it really is still like the USA Wild West.

    • @MarcDufresneosorusrex
      @MarcDufresneosorusrex 6 лет назад +1

      i believe corporations have stolen our heritage... no one knows how to do anything related with surviving life... sewing, stiching, growing produce... people need to feel appreciated still.. people need to feel like they are a part of something greater ... feel useful.. etc... now people work and have jobs... modern life didn't eradicate disillusionment, yet they claim to spread "civilization" tcheh

  • @norml.hugh-mann
    @norml.hugh-mann 3 года назад +1

    I suspect insurance fraud! They did this on purpose without the complicity of the crew. Way overloaded them with a destination through rough waters then forced the capt to sail with bad information or against policy ensuring it would sink

  • @levibeebe9100
    @levibeebe9100 4 года назад +3

    Good job making their lives matter... need more stuff like this on every employer.

  • @chicagogyrl4846
    @chicagogyrl4846 5 месяцев назад

    I thought this was actually a retelling of the accident, not about people talking about it.

  • @lizanthomas163
    @lizanthomas163 4 года назад +2

    Misinformation....not Antigua Barbados. I'm Barbadian and this misinformation was upsetting owing to the sensitivity of the issue. Along with the disdain of persons responsible. This misinformation had me peeved and thus wondering what else was incorrect.

  • @michaelmaxfield3744
    @michaelmaxfield3744 2 года назад

    How many Navy personnel have seen
    a fellow crew member, or civilian
    killed aboard ship?

  • @chicagogyrl4846
    @chicagogyrl4846 2 месяца назад

    If the engineer was scared, he should have reported the ship, and shouldn’t have sailed.

  • @fluseint.1303
    @fluseint.1303 2 года назад +1

    Prime example that laws aren't made to protect us!

  • @reefermadnezz9819
    @reefermadnezz9819 Год назад

    Ty

  • @PrenticeBoy1688
    @PrenticeBoy1688 7 лет назад +7

    Antigua Barbados? WTF?

  • @UserUser-oy8ch
    @UserUser-oy8ch 4 года назад +1

    god!how tragic to give that to your kids to read!

  • @peterbradshaw8018
    @peterbradshaw8018 4 года назад

    Would this be a case for the European Court for Human Rights. Pity you have to exhaust the local courts.

  • @charisserempel23
    @charisserempel23 5 лет назад +1

    So did anyone go to jail in the end?

  • @karireinikainen2876
    @karireinikainen2876 4 года назад

    Somebody chartered that ship to carry the cargo, which was in excess of what the ship was permitted to carry. Were they aware of this? A charterer, too, is part of the picture in cases like this.

  • @brianmillar5075
    @brianmillar5075 5 лет назад +3

    What needs to happen is each country ban entry to there ports for any ship that is flying a flag that is not the flag of the country where the ship is owned.

    • @VigilanceTech
      @VigilanceTech 5 лет назад +1

      you couldn't do that. You'd almost completely eliminate commerce. What you could do though, is refuse entry to ships flagged in a country without a maritime court of inquiry (or who's court was essentially "kangaroo")

  • @charisserempel23
    @charisserempel23 4 года назад

    Only good thing accomplished was the charges for murder. Bravo to all who investigated, produced this documentary and brought about the outcome showing negligence.

  • @briansteffmagnussen9078
    @briansteffmagnussen9078 4 года назад +2

    Someone want to meet someone else in a dark German alley, And one day it will happen.

  • @peter9180
    @peter9180 4 года назад

    The ships captain is responsible for the vessel and the cargo. Flags of convenience act as a get out of jail free card and allow vessels to operate under lower standards and therefore higher profits.

  • @senzomcmanus
    @senzomcmanus 5 лет назад +1

    The value of human life doesn't exist for some people. All about money.

  • @351clevelandmodifiedmotor4
    @351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 Год назад

    37:55 guy in white shirt is stoned af, like me😂👌

  • @janegilmore102
    @janegilmore102 5 лет назад +1

    Well done

  • @kutamsterdam
    @kutamsterdam 6 лет назад +2

    What eventually happened to these shipowners Heinrich Beutler and his son plus some other lowlife....how many years do they spend in jail??!........... 14 months is all these lowlifes were conficted to, less than a month per lost life.

    • @VigilanceTech
      @VigilanceTech 5 лет назад

      not even that. From:
      translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=taz.de/!1253909/&prev=search
      He sentenced senior Heinrich Beutler to a probationary sentence of one year and a fine of 20,000 marks for "dangerous interference in the shipping traffic".

  • @whoohaaXL
    @whoohaaXL 3 года назад

    That thumbnail though....

  • @Roscoe.P.Coldchain
    @Roscoe.P.Coldchain Год назад

    I hope that man brevek served jail time, the mans greed had no boundaries

  • @leighnassau1158
    @leighnassau1158 Год назад

    I think the Name of the ship says it all really!

  • @mrbeep8096
    @mrbeep8096 6 лет назад +1

    how is the engineer alive if it says all see man died. oh I thought you was talking about the engineer for the engine during the voyage she went down.

    • @huismann-film
      @huismann-film  6 лет назад

      MRBEEP Mr. Taube was not on Board during the last trip. As technical inspector he was responsable for all the 9 ships of the Company.

  • @francescaruby1150
    @francescaruby1150 4 года назад

    Bravo. What an interesting film ! Could it be that they wanted the ship to sink for the insurance?

    • @YukariAkiyamaTanks
      @YukariAkiyamaTanks 3 года назад

      I highly doubt it, beutler just wanted to keep most of the profit instead of actually repairing his fleet or care about his crews.

  • @dirkarum9703
    @dirkarum9703 4 года назад +1

    Scantrader? Scamtrader was a better name for the ship.

  • @gekkehansie
    @gekkehansie Год назад

    What has happened since ? Any of the Buetler-family convicted? I sure hope so !!

  • @mensax8054
    @mensax8054 2 года назад

    Boy was Mr. Habib mad. He wasn’t having it at all haha. Definitely pushed his button, along with his red dot. To exploit his own people like that. Shame

  • @christopherjameslee3341
    @christopherjameslee3341 5 лет назад

    Shocking.

  • @prex345
    @prex345 4 года назад

    Too big to jail?

  • @51WCDodge
    @51WCDodge 3 года назад

    Very responsible. Although he was a bit of a daredevil?

  • @UserUser-oy8ch
    @UserUser-oy8ch 4 года назад +1

    12 men's lives were not worth it he sez

  • @repentuklondonwatchman1373
    @repentuklondonwatchman1373 4 года назад

    PURE EVIL

  • @351clevelandmodifiedmotor4
    @351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 Год назад

    38:47 😂😂😂😂 maybe they didn't say way anchor

  • @simonbarr9476
    @simonbarr9476 5 лет назад +1

    Sorry, but I fell asleep watching this.

  • @nickhughes8179
    @nickhughes8179 2 года назад

    7:00 and 11:24. Bodo the Bilge-rat Bobblehead

  • @daniellez.2462
    @daniellez.2462 6 лет назад +1

    You get what you pay for.

  • @biochemist1661
    @biochemist1661 6 лет назад +6

    And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
    John 17:3
    TODAY is the day of salvation!

  • @rafalotreba6824
    @rafalotreba6824 5 лет назад

    So, this proves my point about the baddest nations.